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A
135
in
the
morning
on
Tuesday
the
11th
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll.
C
A
A
E
C
On
that,
let
me
see.
C
A
Thank
you.
Everyone,
I
Now,
understand
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
presented
motion
by
commissioner
Juliet
seconded
by
commissioner
Jackson.
Please
prompt
that
vote.
A
You
know
all
right
closing
that
all
right
Communications
would
entertain
a
motion
to
receive
and
file.
The
second
quarter
report
on
appointments
questions
by
commissioner
Julia
seconded
by
commissioner
Spitz.
Please
prompt
that
vote.
B
A
F
A
A
Well,
that's
all
right,
just
out
of
curiosity's
Hobart
Maxie
here,
no
okay,
we'll
get
to
them
later
then
is
Sean
Carlson!
No,
all
right!
So
moving
on
to
item
C,
Richard
Lynch
are
you
there.
You
are
someone's
here
so
item
c.
A
G
Hopefully
this
is
on
I'm
here
to
move
for
the
reappointment
of
commissioner
Kimberly
Reeves
to
the
jury.
Commission,
slash
board
she
has
or
she's
in
the
process
of
completing
a
six-year
term.
Already
I
have
reached
out
to
Oakland
County
Democratic
chair,
Nancy
Quarles.
She
supports
the
reappointment
of
Ms
Reeves.
She
Ms
Reeves
has
served
Admiral
boy
during
her
time.
I
asked
the
jury.
Commissioner.
She
has
done
the
work,
that's
appropriate.
G
She
is
a
licensed
attorney,
so
she
brings
a
lot
of
value
to
our
body
and
the
circuit
court
has
considered
us
that
it's
full
bench
meeting.
Yes,
let's
see
last
Tuesday,
it
voted
unanimously
in
support
of
the
recommendation
for
the
reappointment.
So
I'd
ask
this
honorable
body
to
reappoint
Ms
Reeves
as
a
jury,
commissioner,
for
the
board.
A
Okay,
yes,
isn't
there
a
second
commissioner
Hoffman,
please
prompt
that
vote.
A
Moving
on
to
item
D,
which
is
amendment
number
five,
with
Oakland
County
4-H
Fair
Association,
for
improvements
to
the
livestock
Barn
at
Springfield,
Oaks,
County,
Park
Melissa.
Thank
you
very
much
good.
H
H
So
this
is
a
project
that
the
4-H
Fair
would
like
to
do
out
at
Springfield
Oaks
at
the
fairgrounds.
It's
just
it's.
The
installation
of
two
industrial
fans
in
our
livestock
Barn
keep
the
barn
cooler
more
comfortable
for
people
and
animals
that
are
out
there,
because
it's
considered
an
amendment
to
the
agreement
and
it's
also
considered
a
donation
of
over
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
H
H
That
the
fair
does
that
the
fair
has
an
operation
out
there,
where,
during
the
winter,
when
the
barns
aren't
used,
they
rent
them
for
any
anyone.
Anyone
in
the
public
who
has
a
boat
or
an
RV
that
is
looking
for
a
place
to
store
it
they're
stored
out
there
in
the
winter.
Okay,.
H
I
I
Through
the
the
background
and
everything,
okay,
all
right,
I'm
for
the
fans.
B
A
Let's
move
on
to
item
e
since
you're
up
here
anyway,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
open
this
one
up,
commissioner
Juliet
seconded
by
commissioner
Christensen,
hello,
hi.
H
Hi
again,
so
this
is
a.
We
take
a
look
at
our
rules
and
regulations
for
the
park
system
every
year,
a
lot
of
times
it's
just
clean
up,
which
is
most
of
what
it
is
this
year,
you'll,
certainly
see
all
lots
of
word
swap
outs
and
just
general
cleanup
to
make
it
flow
a
little
bit
better.
H
Two
things
that
I
did
want
to
point
out,
though,
that
we
changed
on
page
73
you'll
see
we
strengthened
some
of
the
language
around
personal
conduct,
essentially
giving
us
the
authority
to
limit
people
coming
and
staying
at
the
campground.
We've
had
a
few
issues
with,
unfortunately,
with
our
staff
being
harassed
at
the
campgrounds,
and
so
this
gives
us
a
little
more
strength
to
boot
people
and
not
let
them
continue
to
Camp
if
they
are
not
treating
our
staff
appropriately.
J
H
H
H
A
Other
questions
seeing
none
please
find
with
the
vote.
A
Moving
on
to
item
f,
I,
don't
think
commissioner
Cavallo
is
on
commissioner
Covell.
A
K
Ourselves
yeah,
commissioner
I,
have
a
question:
I
mean
I
I
understand
the
premise
behind
this,
and
it
makes
sense,
but
there's
some
concerns
in
that.
If
these
are
medical
facilities
and
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
consumption
of
how
the
medical
marijuana
will
be
consumed
but
smoking,
obviously,
if
people
are
on
oxygen
takes,
they
can't
have.
K
It
that.
A
A
C
A
A
No
all
the
way
down
guest
of
honor
all
right.
So
this
is
item
a
and
a
motion
afterward
right,
okay,
so
we're
welcoming
Mr
Douglas
Jones
at
this
time,
we're
going
to
begin
interviews
for
the
Oakland
Community
Health,
Network,
appointment,
Mr
Jones,
please
introduce
yourself
and
welcome
to.
M
The
board,
thank
you
very
much,
and
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
each
one
of
you
as
I,
look
forward
to
working
with
Oakland
County
Health
Network,
which
I've
done
over
the
last
few
years,
but
I
pastor
at
church
welcome,
Missionary
Baptist
Church
in
the
city
of
Pontiac,
Michigan
I
happen
to
live
in
the
city
of
in
West
Bloomfield.
M
Also
in
my
tenure
at
welcome
Missionary
Baptist
Church,
we
have
been
able
to
create
a
a
coalition.
That's
called
the
Great
upon
act,
Community,
Coalition,
Slash,
Committee
of
50.
that
great
Upon,
Our,
Community
Coalition
stands
on
four
pillars:
youth
education,
Economic,
Development
and
communication
working
in
that
area
to
facilitate
and
use
action
and
advocacy
to
bring
about
a
needed
social
change.
The
committee
of
50
part
Works
within
the
business
and
economic
Ram
of
that
pillar
of
Economic
Development
to
advise
persons
of
of
financial
support
to
help
support.
M
What
have
you
working
to
stabilize?
Not
only
residential,
not
only
other
coalitions
and
groups
but
stabilize
their
ability
to
gain
the
Financial
Funding
support
that
they
need
part
of
our
our
our
Charter
when
we
speak
of
Youth
and
education
is
also
lends
itself
to
the
health
emergencies
that
we
have,
there's
no,
no
secret,
that
there's
a
homeless
situation
that
exists
in
in
the
city
of
Pontiac
in
Oakland
County
very
frankly,
and
so
we
work
with
agencies
and
organizations
to
try
to
alleviate.
M
The
word
is
alleviate
some
of
the
homeless
situations
boiling
over
from
the
homeless.
Situations
also
lends
itself
to
the
Mental
Health
crisis,
which
we
have
not
only
in
Oakland
County,
but
throughout
the
United,
States
mental
and
emotional,
and
so
working
with
youth
organizations
working
with
education
organizations
I.E
the
Pontiac
School
Board,
the
Oakland
Intermediate
School
District
Oakland
University,
Oakland
Community
College
to
try
to
create
a
system
and
method
to
address
some
of
the
mental
health,
emotional
issues
that
are
facing
our
young
people
and
our
parents
of
young
people.
M
To
that
end,
we
have
and
we're
working
on
initiating
a
program
to
utilize
third,
fourth,
fifth,
sixth
year
sociology
psychology
and
Psychiatry
students
to
work
with
families
to
assist
the
police
as
co-responders
and
what
gave
you
so
that
that
is
part
of
what
the
Coalition
does.
That's
part
of
what
the
committee
of
50
does
and,
very
frankly,
as
a
pastor.
That's
what
I
do
throughout
the
city
throughout
the
county
throughout
the
state.
My
background
I
came
from
a
business
background.
M
I
was
a
regional
director
regional
manager
with
the
Xerox
Corporation
for
many
years,
I
started
my
career
in
Cincinnati
Ohio
and
was
transferred
to
Michigan,
transferred
to
Chicago
transferred
to
Minneapolis
throughout
this
and
throughout
the
Midwest,
and
ended
up
back
here
and
began
my
career
at
the
welcome
Missionary
Baptist
Church.
So
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
a
number
of
different
people,
interacting
with
people
in
relation
to
not
only
their
goals
and
aspirations,
but
attacking
the
issues.
The
human
issues
that
impact
all
of
us.
That's
me
awesome.
A
Thank
you
so
much
I,
just
it's
a
very
quick
question.
I
apologize
if
I
miss
honorific
to
you
is,
is
Reverend
rather.
M
Than
this
you
know,
I
answered
both
of
them,
but
most
people.
If
you
ask
him
out
again,
you
say
Reverend
they'll
say
who
and
if
you
say,
Pastor
Jones
the
whole
world
will
say:
I
know
who
he
is.
Oh
so
I
answered
both
of
them
and
I.
Guess:
there's
a
lot
of
differences,
I
guess
when
you're,
when
you're
over
A
Flock
they'll
call
your
pastor
and
if
you're
assigned
at
a
church
as
a
minister
of
health
and
support
they'll,
say
Reverend,
so
both
Works.
A
M
F
Thank
you
good
to
see
you
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
Pastor
Jones
on
many
many
projects
and
he
is
well
integrated
into
the
community
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
this
Committee
of
50
has
representation
from
ochn.
Yes,.
M
F
And
he
has
a
strong
working
relationship
with
ochn,
but
one
thing
that
you
didn't
mention
is
because
of
all
the
different
agencies
that
are
involved.
This
committee
is
also
looking
at
maybe
having
one
person
hiring
one
person
to
coordinate
all
the
services
so
that
when
a
person
is
in
need
of
service,
they
don't
have
to
make
12
calls
they
make
one
call.
So
that's
just.
M
We
need
to
call
a
solidarity
where
a
person,
if
they're
having
a
crisis,
if
there's
a
meltdown
whatever
the
situation,
is
that
instead
of
looking
at-
and
we
have
it,
there's
there's
a
list
of
39
pages
of
who
to
call
now,
if
you're
going
through
a
mental
breakdown,
I,
don't
think
you're
going
to
page
through
39
pages
to
see.
M
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
came
up
with
was
to
say
why
not
all
of
us
list
the
services
that
we
provide,
what
we're
doing,
where
we're
located,
how
we
can
help
and
then
create
a
one-call
line,
a
one
call
line,
which
means
that
you
call
that
one
number
that
that
person
will
filter
you
right
away
to
the
place
that
you
need
to
go.
M
There
will
be
a
person
that
will
respond,
so
you
won't
get
a
call
us
back
later
and
you
will
be
taken
care
of
right
away,
and
so
we've
agreed
that
that's
needed
and
we
have,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
working
on
that.
As
of
as
we
speak
today
to
make
that
come
into
fruition.
The
other.
The
other
piece
of
that
is
is
that
we
were
able
to
channel
the
persons
to
the
right
place
for
the
help
that
they
need
the
help
that
they
need
and
and
I
tell
you.
M
I
am
excited
about
the
groups
coming
together.
You
know
on
this
I'm
excited
about
the
the
opportunity
that
they
have
and
let
me
take
homelessness
for
for
a
moment,
we
discovered
that
a
lot
of
the
so-called
known
homeless
places
Lighthouse,
okay,
others
that
may
be
that
persons
will
call
and
say
this
person
is
homeless.
They
may
be
failed,
but
we've
found
out
there's
a
group
of
other
Home
places
that
offer
and
afford
help
our
coverage
to
persons
that
are
homeless,
guess
what
they
never
get
to
call.
M
So
what
we're
doing
is
saying
we're
going
to
have
them
on
that
list,
and
so,
if
hope
shelters
is
full,
we
know
who
else
to
call
and
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
same
day
same
hour,
same
time
to
resolve
that
issue.
The
idea
of
incorporating
some
of
the
social
workers
in
it
is
also
because
from
that
of
that
coverage
at
the
at
the
homeless,
shelter
does
not
solve
all
of
the
problem.
M
There's
some
other
issues
and
we
believe
that
the
social
work
students
that
gives
them
a
couple
of
things
gives
them
on
on
the
site
experience
we
used
to
call
it
on
the
job.
Please
excuse
that
on-site
experience
they're,
able
then
to
help
persons
and
channel
them
also
to
proper
resources,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
it.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
our
group
is
working
on
that
and
it
is
our
hope
to
have
that
in
place
within
the
next
couple
of
months.
So.
C
The
head
of
the
table
today
to
hear
about
this
work.
I
have
we
have
two
clinical
social
work:
social
work?
Oh.
C
I
know
that
they
know
about
the
Continuum
of
Care
and
how
education,
Economic,
Development
homelessness,
feeds
into
the
Mental
Health
crisis
or
lack
thereof.
These
resources
I
have
a
personal
story
of
my
best
friend's
son,
who
suffered
a
mental
crisis
and
she
was
driving
driving
him
to
Lighthouse.
He
jumped
out
the
car
barefoot.
He
ended
up,
jumping
off
of
the
water
tower
to.
C
So
I
know
what
fed
into
him
getting
to
that
point,
and
there
were
these
types
of
issues
so
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you're
looking
at
it
in
a
wraparound
kind
of
way.
True
and
I
just
appreciate
you
applying
and
coming
forward
to
us
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
I.
M
I
really
believe
that
we
have
to
have
the
clinicals,
and
it
is
my
thought
that
a
family
and
a
mental
health
issue
and
and
we'll
take
the
one
where
the
lady
froze
with
her
two
kids.
Okay,
the
other
lady,
that
the
police
tried
to
calm
down.
Okay,
I,
don't
know
that
a
family,
a
family,
it
does
not
matter
ethnicity
or
it
does
not
matter
that,
but
they're
not
going
to
tell
a
policeman
had
a
relative.
It's
just
about
to
go
off.
M
What
have
you,
but
you
know
who
they'll
tell
a
social
worker
they'll
tell
that
they'll
tell
that
person
they'll,
say:
listen,
I
need
some
help.
This
is
what's
about
to
happen.
What
can
you
do
so?
The
idea
of
utilizing
these
Social
Work
students
and
and
eventually
masters
of
social
work?
You
have
to
have
a
Master
with
helping
the
undergrad.
That's
going
to
give
us
more
feet
on
the
street
is
going
to
give
us
more
contact
and
ability
to
stop
the
crisis
solve
the
issue
solve
the
issue
that
that's
important.
M
So
that's
why
we're
we're
moving
forehead
with
with
that?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
that
is
so
so
important
to
us.
D
M
That
that's
hard,
that's
our
that's
our
goal!
The
reason
we
call
it
call
it
solidarity
because
we
know
there
are
other
cities
going
through
the
same
thing:
other
communities
other
townships,
going
through
the
same
thing
and
so
all
of
a
sudden.
Coming
together.
M
Now
we
have
a
a
bad
or
I'll
use
the
word
plethora
of
resources
available
for
everyone,
so
that
that's
how
we
can
do
this
and
I
the
unity
you
know,
I
was
in
a
meeting
yesterday
with
a
Catholic
response
team
of
what
they've
been
doing
and
and
that's
important,
and
they
said
well
we're
covering
you
know,
Pontiac,
and
we
do
some
things
in
in
Royal
Oak
or
what
have
you?
Well,
that's
great.
All
of
a
sudden,
all
of
us
coming
together.
Can
you
imagine
the
impact
that
we
would
have
in
different
communities?
M
And
we
understand
if,
if
we
look
at
the
different
cultures
and
ethnicities,
that's
going
on
and
and
Oakland
county
is
just
a
very
diverse,
County,
a
very
diverse
County
and
there
are
things
that's
going
on
within
the
Chaldean
Community
within
the
Arab
Community.
All
of
these
things
is
going
on,
and
they
too
are
saying:
where
do
we
get
this
help?
Where
do
we
get
this
help?
Yes,
ma'am.
D
M
That's
true
and
that's
one
of
the
issues
we
we
found
out
that
there
is
the
the
alliance
on
housing.
M
On
housing
and
surprisingly
well,
when
we
looked
at
the
list,
there
are
a
couple
of
groups
that
should
have
been
a
part
of
that
in
the
housing
Facebook,
we'll
we'll
get
them
we'll
get
them
get
them
in,
but
they're
doing
great
work,
but
everybody
doesn't
know
they're
there
and
what
they're
doing
so,
they're
working
with
us
as
well,
so
that
we
can
tackle
the
housing
and
homeless
situation.
Also,
then,
look
at
the
mental
health
situation.
That's
going
on
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
I!
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
effort.
A
On
the
note
of
meetings,
ochn
meetings
are
the
regular
meetings.
Sorry,
this
is
going
to
be
a
little
informational.
The
regular
meetings
are
the
third
Tuesday
of
each
month
at
6
PM.
The
committee
of
the
whole
meets
on
the
second
Monday
of
the
month
at
4.
30
p.m
and
study
sessions
vary,
but
are
typically
on
the
fourth
Thursday
at
5
PM.
All
of
them
are
at
the
Troy
headquarters.
Are
you
able
to
attend
most
of
those
meetings?
I.
M
Think
that
would
be
able
to
attend
most
of
them.
You
know
my
day
starts
early,
as
you
probably
know,
and
when
we're
in
our
committee
meetings
and
all
of
that
we're
up
early
most
of
those
start
about
8
8
30
in
the
morning,
so
that
and
as
we
go
through
our
schedule,
I'm
sure
I
could
meet
with
those
the
the
only
barrier
would
be
if
there
was
a
clergy
crises
that
I
had
to
attend
our
family
crisis,
but
I
think
we
can
adjust
to
that.
L
I
was
a
little
tested.
A
A
So
this
is
Item
B.
This
is
the
executive's
office
cunning
executive
appointment
of
Rod
Davenport
as
Chief
Information
officer.
This
is
not
Sean
Carlson.
Presenting
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
thank
you
very
much
to
the
appointment
seconded
by
commissioner
Lutz.
N
All
right
good
morning,
Commissioners
I'm
as
I
think
I
just
mentioned,
winging
it
a
little
bit
this
morning,
subbing
for
Sean
Carlson,
who
got
stuck
in
a
meeting
with
the
county,
executive
and
I
thought
we
thought
he
was
going
to
be
here
about
10
minutes
ago.
J
N
Yeah,
okay
on
second,
maybe
this
is
a
really
bad
idea,
so
we're
here
to
present
Rod
Davenport,
who
executive
Coulter
is
nominated
to
be
the
Chief
Information
officer
for
Oakland
County
Mr
Davenport
has
extensive
experience
in
his
field,
he's
currently
the
CIO
for
the
Lansing
Board
of
Water
and
Light
served
as
the
chief
technology
officer
for
the
state
of
Michigan,
as
well
as
for
DTE,
Energy,
I,
think
so
he
would
bring
just
kind
of
a
wide
array
of
and
deep
array
of
experience
to
the
county
from
his
previous
positions.
N
L
Good
morning
everybody
yeah
to
let
you
know
we
recruited
for
the
position.
We
had
a
approximately
168
individuals
that
put
in
for
a
very
large,
diverse
group
of
individuals,
we're
very
blessed
with
the
level
of
candidates
from
the
168.
We
took
it
down
to
12..
We
actually
conducted
phone
interviews
where
they
responded
to
five
of
our
questions
and
did
videos
of
those.
Then
we
took
it
down
to
three
individuals
with
face-to-face
interviews.
L
It
was
Sean
Carlson,
April
Lynch,
our
deputy
director
of
administrative
services
and
myself
as
a
technical
advisor
clearly
Rod
through
his
extensive
background
and
experience
came
through
as
our
clear
best
candidate
for
the
position.
I'm
personally
excited
because
I
have
worked
with
Rod
personally
in
the
past,
I
used
to
be
the
CIO
for
the
state
of
Michigan
myself,
even
though
Rob
didn't
work
for
me,
I
know
Rod
very
well
and
worked
closely
and
I
know
he's
going
to
be
a
great
candidate.
I
Am
yes,
I'm
in
Farmington,
also
I
think
we
moved
so
when
I
was
five
years
old,
moved
in
Oakland
county
in
Southfield,
so,
let's
just
say,
lifelong
resident
of
Oakland
County.
If
we.
I
So
I've
had
six
or
seven
job
transitions,
I
guess
over
the
you
know
my
career
I'm,
my
style
is
I,
don't
you
know
I
don't
come
in
like
a
freight
train,
I
like
to
kind
of
assess,
what's
happening,
get
to
know
the
folks,
and
then
you
know
you
mentioned
kind
of
social
work.
So
I
think
this
is
a
close
analog
to
that
I
like
to
meet
people
where
they
are,
and
then
we
can
work
together
to
elevate
right.
So,
thankfully,
with
Ken
I
think
I've
got
a
pretty
good
briefing.
I
I've
got
an
understanding,
I.
Think
of
some
of
the
big
picture.
Stuff
I
haven't
met
any
of
the
staff,
yet
so
I
would
say
the
first.
Probably
you
know,
60
90
days
will
be
meeting
with
the
team,
seeing
where
the
Straits
and
weaknesses
are
finding
out
where
people
want
to
go
on
their
careers
and
see.
If
we
can,
you
know
help
people
help
people
get
there.
Sometimes
people
just
need
to
change
a
role.
Sometimes
people
need
a
little
bit
more
Direction.
Sometimes
they
struggle
with
you
know.
Technology
is
very
fast.
I
Paced
things
are
changing
a
lot.
So
sometimes
it's
a
training
issue,
but
I've
had
some
pretty
pretty
good
track.
Record
of
you
know:
overtime,
elevating
the
performance
of
of
the
team
and
working
with
the
business
closely
to
try
to
make
sure
the
technology
is
doing
what
it's
supposed
to
do
so
I'm
I'm
a
believer
that
technology
is
kind
of
a
force
multiplier
for
for
people,
there's
kind
of
two.
You
know
two
different
big
picture
pieces
with
tech.
I
I
mean
one
of
it
is
that
it
takes
kind
of
routine
tasks
and
just
automates
them
makes
them
go
a
lot
faster
and
then
there's
things
like
the
iPhone
right.
So
you
have
these
these
technological
innovations
that
let
people
do
different
things
or,
if
you
think
about
you,
know,
SpaceX,
you
know
going
to
Mars.
That's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
technology,
so
kind
of
harnessing
that
and
putting
it
in
a
proper
context
for
people
to
get
their
jobs
done
faster
I
think
is
really
kind
of
what
what
it
does.
F
C
You
so
looking.
A
C
Your
resume,
which
is
very,
very
impressive,
DTE.
You
were
there
quite
a
bit
of
time,
but
then
also
in
governmental
entities,
which
helps
plays
a
role
in
this
assignment.
But
looking
at
your
advancing
Board
of
Water
and
Light,
you
stabilize
the
department
after
a
major
ransomware
attack
in
2016,
and
we
know,
that's,
become
more
and
more
prevalent
with
governmental
systems
and
just
the
fact
that
you've
had
experience
and
then
rebuilding.
C
How
do
you
see
that
playing
in
Oakland,
County
and
working
with
our
homeland
security
and
just
where
we
are
today,
because
we
have
constituents
that
come
in
and
they're
like?
You
know
we're
opening
ourselves
up
by
allowing
certain
information
to
be
accessible
to
the
public
and
things
like
that
so
where?
Where
is
your
focus
as
far
as
local
hotels
and
where
we
are.
I
Yeah,
so
cyber
security
is
always
kind
of
number
number
one
on
my
list.
I
know
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
ransomware
attacks
against
counties
lately.
Obviously,
at
a
utility
we
were
a
major
Target,
especially
with
the
you
know,
the
conflict
in
the
Ukraine
and
the
strained
relationships
with
China.
So
we
did
see
a
spike.
You
know
in
I
guess
we
could
call
them
a
tax.
I
I
mean
the
the
firewall
does
a
lot
of
repelling,
but
we
we
have
seen
an
uptick
in
fishing
as
well,
Homeland
Security,
so
the
first
year
that
I
was
at
the
bwl
I
brought
in
the
homeland
security
cyber
team
to
kind
of
do
a
penetration
test
and
they
found
a
lot
of
vulnerabilities.
Just
last
week
we
had
a
couple
called
cyber
defense
that
came
in
that
did
another
week-long
internal
penetration
test.
It
was
much
approved,
so
the
challenge
with
cyber
is
it's
a
kind
of
a
cat
and
mouse
game.
I
So,
as
the
attackers
get
better
the
defenses
get
better,
then
the
attackers
get
better
again.
So
it's
it's.
It's
work,
that's
never
done,
but
it
is
very
important.
The
other
piece
about
the
exposure
of
information,
I
think
government
is,
is
kind
of
uniquely
challenged
in
that
you
want
to
have
transparency
and
openness
and
government,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
the
bad.
The
bad
guys
are
looking
at
that
for
to
do
social
engineering
attacks,
I
mean
if
they
can
find
out
somebody's
background,
or
you
know
their
social
network.
They
could
Target
either.
I
I
You
know
and
I'm
not
sure,
yet
what
the
tool
sets
are
in
Oakland
County,
but
there
are
things
that
we
could
put
in
place:
kind
of
a
defensive
depth,
architecture
to
say:
okay,
okay!
Well,
if
they
manage
to
get
through
the
front
door,
you
know
we
can.
We
can
stop
them
right
in
the
in
the
hallway.
So
it's
it's
always
a
risk
that
something
could
happen.
I
It's
you
know
when
they
always
talk
about
what
what
makes
you
not
sleep
at
night,
it's
cyber,
mostly
because
that's
you
know,
I
used
to
be
a
career
Ender,
maybe
not
so
much
anymore,
but
it's
still
devastating
to
the
I.T
Department
to
the
businesses
in
general.
So
that's
something
I
like
to
I
like
to
start.
I
C
J
I
So
long
time,
I.T
guy
so-
and
this
goes
back-
you
know
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
ways.
But
when
I
was
in
sixth
grade
they
brought
an
apple
to
him
and
it
was
the
first
computer
I'd
ever
seen
and
I
figured
out
how
to
make
my
name
scroll
on
the
screen.
You
know
in
this
endless
loop
and
I
thought
it
was
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
cool,
so
high
school
did
AP
Computer
Science
I
got
my
Varsity
letter
from
the
computer
team,
so
nerd
from
all
the
way
back.
I
So
so
I,
don't
you
know,
I,
don't
have
a
lot
of
exciting
stories,
a
lot
of
people
in
I.T.
You
know
they
they
had
careers
as
artists
and
musicians.
They
went
in
I.T
I've,
just
been
I.T,
pretty
much
the
the
whole
time.
So
a
blend
of
you
know
private
sector
public
sector
I
always
got.
My
belief
is
that
corporate
I.T
is
the
same.
You
know
everybody's
got
to
email,
everybody's
got.
You
know
the
the
word
and
the
printing
and
the
cyber
security
each
of
the
different
industry.
I
Verticals
I
think
has
a
you
know
some
core
software,
that's
different,
but
even
that's
you
know.
Even
that's
the
same.
I
started
off
tech
support
and
then
I
went
into
systems.
Administration
most
of
my
time
was
kind
of
coming
up
through
the
ranks
doing
application
developments,
I
was
a
programmer.
Did
some
database
work?
I
There
was
a
strange
twist
of
fate
that
I
think
when
I
was
at
Ford
my
boss.
He
was
under
the
mistaken
impression
that
I
was
an
I.T
guy
that
could
talk
to
people,
so
it
kind
of
deflected
my
career
to
be
more
of
like
a
business
analyst
and
then
I
I
moved
into
some
management
roles
and
so
I
I
like
to
think
of
myself.
I
As
you
know,
I
I
still
keep
a
hand
on
the
technology,
even
though
I'm
not
haven't
been
on
the
keyboard
for
a
while,
but
I
guess
a
comparison
might
be.
You
know
like
a
Internal
Medicine
primary
care.
Physician
so
I
understand
I
think
a
lot
about
a
lot
in
I.T,
but
you
know
it's
very
complicated
and
each
different
specialty
goes
really
deep.
So
I
know
when
to
call
it
a
specialist,
but
then
I
can
also
sort
of
understand
what
they're,
saying
and
kind
of
put
it
into
context
and
see.
I
If
they're
telling
me
the
truth
or
not
so
so,
yeah
I'm,
you
know
it's
always
a
kind
of
a
technical
scientific
event
been
interested
in
that
for
a
while,
yeah
I,
don't
know
any
other
more
specific
stuff
about
me.
Okay,
yeah.
I
A
I
A
I
I've
been
at
Lansing,
for
you
know
quite
a
while
at
the
drive,
especially
with
the
the
construction
on
96,
has
started
to
take
a
toll.
It's
it's
odd
because
I've
always
you
know,
they've
been
working
there
day
to
day,
but
then
through
coven
when
we
went
remote
and
now
that
we're
starting
to
get
back
in
the
office
so
that
the
drive
seems
to
have
magnified
itself
many
times
and
I
guess
the
other
part
of
this,
and
this
this
came
up
during
the
the
interview
process.
I
So
most
of
my
career
I've
been
working
in
large
organizations.
So
I,
you
know,
I
think
my
first
job
is
a
crane
communication
and
I
was
at
Ford.
I
was
at
HMO
for
a
little
while
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
DTE
different
different
roles.
I
Then,
when
I
got
to
the
state,
you
know
it
was
huge
and
that
that
has
its
own
set
of
pluses
and
minuses
and
then,
when
I
went
to
the
Board
of
Water
and
Light,
it's
fairly
small.
So
it's
like
700
people
in
total
different
sets
of
challenges.
The
state
is
very
large.
It's
unwieldy,
bwl
is,
is
I,
guess
wieldy
is
a
word,
so
it's
a
it's
a
little
more
agile.
You
get
some
things
done,
but
there's
not
a
ton
of
resources
there
and
you
know
especially
dealing
with
the
vendors.
I
It's
it's
tough,
sometimes
to
get
their
attention
unless
you've
got
a
little
more
a
little
more
budget,
a
little
more
staff,
so
I
kind
of
thought
that
this
might
be
the
Goldilocks
sort
of
an
opportunity
that
it's
you
know
it's
not
as
large
as
the
state.
Hopefully
we
still
get
some
stuff
done,
but
it's
not
so
small
that
I
can't
you
know
I
can't
affect
change
as
easily.
So
so
that's
my
hope.
A
A
But,
oh,
you
have
to
be
yeah
yeah
you're,
going
to
miss
those
nudity
bagels
and
right
anyway,.
A
Seeing
none
motion
is
on
the
table.
Please.
C
B
F
I
I
A
J
B
Good
thing,
yeah
I
did
get
a
communication
from
our
from
or
9
40.
was
that
Mr
snow,
Mr
Novell.
He
just
said:
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
his
life
right
now
and
he's
maybe
later
he
just
declined
declined,
but
I
did
not
hear
from
Mr
Maxie.
N
C
C
F
J
A
Well,
that
being
said,
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
guess
sure.
J
A
I
believe
we've
gone
through
the
regular
agenda
by
now
did
I
miss
anything.
No.
That
was
that
moving
on
to
public
comment,
number
two:
anyone
from
the
public
here
wishing
to
address
this
on
any
topic:
no
there's
not
any
further
business
before
the
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee
today,
nope
all
right
without
a
job
objection
to
clear
this
meeting
adjourned.
All.