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B
A
B
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
We
have
minutes
from
our
september
28
2021
meeting.
If
there
aren't
any
corrections
or
changes.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lube's
support
by
commissioner
jackson?
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries.
B
We
also
have
a
second
I
apologize.
I
should
have
lumped
these
two
together,
but
we
also
have
committee
minutes
dated
from
october
4th
2021.
If
there
aren't
any
changes
or
corrections.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
of
our
october
4th
motion
by
commissioner
lubes
support
by
commissioner
gershenson,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
minutes
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
agenda.
B
With
that
being
said,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
revised
agenda
support
by
commissioner
or
motion
by
commissioner
luke's
support
by
commissioner
gershenson?
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
agenda's
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
our
first
public
comment
of
this
meeting.
As
a
reminder,
this
public
comment
is
for
items
related
to
the
agenda
items
at
this
time.
Do
we
have
anybody
from
the
public
who
would
like
to
address
the
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee.
D
Commissioner,
it's
joe
rozelle.
D
Doing
well,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
for
taking
up
the
elections
item
on
today's
agenda
and
thank
commissioner
markham
for
bringing
that
forward.
It's
important
that
we
get
accurate
information
about
what
took
place
in
november
of
2020
out
there.
Threats
on
election
officials
are
very
real.
Our
office
has
received
death
threats.
My
colleagues
across
the
country
have
received
death
threats.
Election
officials
have
been
run
off
the
road,
it's
a
very
scary
world
that
we're
operating
in
right
now.
B
Is
there
anyone
else
from
the
public
who
would
like
to
address
the
legislative
affairs
in
government
operations
committee
this
morning
see
none?
I
will
close
public
comment
next,
we'll
move
on
to
communications.
There
are
no
items
under
communications,
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
eight,
which
is
our
consent
agenda.
B
We
have
three
items
under
our
consent
agenda
item
a
recognition
of
november
13th
through
the
21st
of
2021
as
national
hunger
and
homeless
awareness
week
in
oakland
county
item
8b
resolution
declaring
november
18th
2021
as
world
pancreatic
cancer
awareness
day
in
oakland
county
and
the
last
item
c
resolution
declaring
november
8
2021
as
national
science,
technology,
engineering
and
mathematics
day
in
oakland
county.
Do
we
have
a
motion
under
the
consent
agenda
for
those
three
items
motion
by
commissioner
jackson,
support
by
commissioner
gershenson,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
I.
A
B
Thank
you,
motion,
passes
or
consent
agenda
items
were
improved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda.
This
morning.
Our
item
number
nine,
a
we've
got
a
presentation
by
robin
carter,
our
chief
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
officer.
So
I'd
like
to
welcome
miss
carter
to
the
front
of
the
table
good
morning,
hi.
B
F
A
F
F
Wonderful,
so
I
haven't
met
with
any
of
you
and
it's
been
a
year
as
of
july
one,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
come
and
give
some
updates
on
what
we're
doing.
Just
to
make
sure
you're
aware,
I
will
be
giving
some
updates
on
some
of
our
initiatives,
but
I'll
also
be
laying
some
of
the
foundations
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
how
we're
leading
equity
within
oakland
county.
F
So,
as
you
all
know,
the
position
for
diversity,
chief
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
officer
was
not
only
championed,
of
course,
by
the
executive
team,
but
also
the
board
of
commissioners.
So
I
know
that
this
is
a
very
personal
position
for
you
all.
So
I'm
excited
to
report
out
where
we
are
in
terms
of
the
description
of
this
position.
It
serves
really
for
internal
and
external
stakeholders,
and
so
right
now,
where
the
focus
has
really
been
internally.
F
So
the
way
I'll
talk
to
you
today,
I'll
be
just
using
six
major
areas
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
Our
initiative
around
the
oakland
county
equity
council,
the
foundational
equity
training
that
was
provided
by
our
strategic
leadership
team,
as
well
as
provided
for
our
equity
council,
our
external
equity
audit.
That's
currently
in
progress
being
spearhead
by
income,
our
internal
equity
audit,
that's
being
supported
by
mts
and
then
finally,
the
equity
reports
with
recommendations
and
action
steps
and
that's
what
we'll
be
looking
to
have
once
all
of
these
reports
are
complete.
F
So,
let's
first
talk
about
dei
defined.
It
was
really
important
for
us
as
a
team,
to
make
sure
that
everyone
came
into
this
work
with
a
common
knowledge.
As
you
all
know,
a
lot
of
people
think
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
mean
different
things,
and
if
we
don't
frame
the
context
of
what
we're
talking
about
right
away,
we
might
lose
people
just
because
there's
you
know
an
inconsistency
in
the
meaning
of
the
terms
so
for
the
work
that
we're
leading
it.
F
Diversity
is
really
at
the
core
talking
about
the
differences,
whether
it's
race,
gender,
sexual
orientation,
ethnicity,
age,
religion
and
so
much
more.
But
it
was
really
important
to
acknowledge
that
there
are
a
lot
of
identities
when
we're
talking
about
diversity,
but
most
often
people
think
of
race
and
gender.
F
The
other
piece
we
wanted
to
frame
is
equity.
What
is
equity
right
a
lot
of
times,
we
think
about
equity
and
and
equality
is
the
same
and
it's
important
to
know
the
difference,
because
they
really
do
have
different
meanings
and
they
elicit
different
outcomes
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
our
next
slide.
F
Finally,
inclusion
really
referring
to
different
individuals
coming
to
the
table
coming
to
the
county
coming
to
our
spaces,
but
they're,
valued
and
there's
leverage
in
welcoming
them
as
leaders
and
their
voice,
but,
most
importantly,
they
feel
like
they
belong
right.
So
it's
not
enough
to
just
bring
people
in
but
making
sure
that
they
feel
like
they
belong
where
they
are.
F
So
when
we
talk
about
inequality
in
the
top
left
quadrant
right,
I
think
it's
extremely
helpful
to
use
this
as
a
symbol
of
what
that
looks
like
the
kiddo
on
the
left
is
getting
apples
just
flowing
to
him
in
abundance
right
because
the
tree
is
tilted,
the
kiddo
on
the
right
is
getting
no
apples,
and
so,
when
we
see
inequality,
that's
pretty
to
me
often
an
easier
area
for
people
to
understand
right.
But
then
we
talk
about
equality,
which
is
a
term
that
a
lot
of
people
use.
F
It's
just
give
everyone
the
same
thing.
Everyone
needs
equal
right.
The
problem,
as
you
can
see
in
this
diagram,
though,
is
that
even
with
equality,
the
kiddo
on
the
right
still
is
not
getting
resources
still
not
getting.
The
apples
in
in
in
a
system
right
example,
still
not
having
access.
So,
although
we,
I
think
it's
important
to
talk
about
equality,
we
want
to
also
make
sure
that
it's
clear
that
it
doesn't
always
elicit
the
results
we're
looking
for
in
the
bottom
quadrant
with
equity.
F
F
So,
finally,
the
last
quadrant,
which
is
where
we
are
at
oakland
county,
wanting
to
make
sure
that
operational
equity
is
operationalized.
You
see
that
tree
is
now
tilted,
and
so
that's
really
a
symbol
for
looking
at.
How
are
we
addressing
our
system?
What
does
our
system
look
like?
Are
there
structures
within
our
system
that
need
to
be
moved?
We
often
spend
a
lot
of
time
looking
at
individuals
and
we
have
to
make
sure
we're
considering
our
processes,
our
policies.
F
F
The
initial
purpose
of
the
council
was
to
create
a
culture
that
respects
diversity,
promote
cultural
sensitivity
and
understanding,
encourage
and
promote
workforce
diversity
and
then
also
ensure
that
the
public
we
serve
receives
services
that
are
provided
in
a
culturally
sensitive
manner.
This
particular
application
process.
We
brought
in
community
members
to
sit
on
the
panel,
and
so
why
this
was
so
different
than
most
councils
is
that
we
had
people
who
were
right
in
oakland,
county
centro,
multicultural
la
familia
was
someone
a
representative
from
there
autism
alliance
naacp.
F
We
also
had
the
deputies,
but
the
goal
was
so
that,
right
off
the
bat
during
the
interview
process,
people
were
able
to
make
connections
that,
if
there's
someone
from
autism
alliance,
that
must
mean
that
that's
kind
of
a
focus
with
equity
and
right
again
continuously
modeling.
What
that
means
for
us.
F
So
the
equity
council
is
represented
by
mostly
all
of
our
you
know,
departments.
The
areas
that
are
missing,
though,
are
human
resources,
central
services
prosecuting
attorney
and
then
the
clerk
and
register
of
deeds.
But,
as
you
can
see
at
the
top,
the
two
columns
on
the
top,
we
have
representation
across
the
board,
which
is
really
important
as
we
launch
initiatives
and
look
at
goals
and
strategies.
F
So
the
current
demographic
makeup
of
the
council,
when
we
first
think
about
gender
diversity,
oakland
county
employees
right
as
a
whole,
there's
50
female,
49,
male
and
then
one
percent
that
identify
as
other
in
terms
of
the
council
itself
right.
We
have
30
percent
male
and
then
70
that
identify
as
female
so
right
away.
That
tells
us,
as
a
team,
that
female
identifying
members
on
the
council
are
dominant
in
representation
right.
F
That
means
we
need
to
make
some
direct
efforts
to
increase
recruitment
for
males
across
races,
because
that's
really
important
to
have
that
voice,
often
times
when
we
think
about
equity
work,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
in
the
room,
and
I
rarely
see
white
men
and
that's
important.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
they're
a
part
of
this
work
and
they
have
a
voice.
So
that'll
also
be
a
very
important
recruitment
factor,
as
we
think
about
who's
at
that
table
and
then
who's
missing
in
terms
of
racial
diversity.
F
F
So,
as
a
council,
we
went
through
some
strategic
planning.
As
of
now,
we
have
our
vision,
our
mission
and
our
values.
There
are
some
areas
that
we're
still
critiquing
just
a
little
bit,
but
again,
the
big
picture
for
the
vision
of
the
equity
council
is
through
our
leadership.
Support
and
guidance.
Oakland
county
will
become
the
model
in
operationalizing
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
throughout
all
systems,
so
that
everyone
has
access
and
opportunity
to
thrive
and
that's
a
really
grand
vision.
But
the
goal
is
that
we
become
the
blueprint
we
have
the
employees,
we
have
the
infrastructure.
F
We
have
everything
that
we
need
to
be
successful
in
this
work
and
as
a
council,
we
will
make
sure
that
we
work
very
diligently
to
be
able
to
provide
that
framework
for
other
counties
for
years
to
come.
Our
mission
is
oakland
county
values,
a
culture
that
is
transparent
and
respectful
to
all
employees.
F
So
in
front
of
you,
what
you
see
are
focus
areas
that,
as
a
council
and
the
executive
team,
leadership
and
other
employees
that
I've
talked
to
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
that
they
thought
we
needed
to
focus
on
and,
of
course,
we
can't
focus
on
them
all.
So
what
you
see
in
front
of
you
are
six
areas
that
are
really
important
and
have
come
across
many
voices
as
some
of
the
key
pieces
to
really
start
looking
at
operationalizing
equity
in
oakland
county.
F
So
the
first
one
is
ensure
all
policies,
processes
and
procedures
are
evaluated
with
an
equity
lens
to
create
a
culture
that
acknowledges,
celebrates
and
values.
Diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
collect
analyze,
assess
data
for
actions
toward
equitable
outcomes,
build
intentional
partnerships
to
ensure
all
communities
are
represented
and
engaged,
communicate
with
all
stakeholders
to
ensure
transparency
and
accountability,
around
equity
goals
and
outcomes,
and
then
finally
provide
continuous
learning
toward
cultural
proficiency
and
social
justice.
F
Now
why
these
areas
are
so
important
is,
as
the
council
starts,
creating
action,
steps
and
plans,
it's
really
easy
to
venture
out
and
want
to
do
it
all,
but
these
areas
will
really
help
us
be
very
aligned
with.
Does
this
align
with
the
strategic
focus
areas?
How
are
we
measuring
them
and
how
are
we
reporting
them
out,
whether
it's
a
success
or
whether
it's
an
area
of
opportunity.
F
So,
let's
move
to
foundational
equity
training,
the
purpose
of
the
initial
workshops
that
we've
put
our
leadership
team
through
as
well
as
our
equity
council.
You
know
our
deputies
were
on
this
training.
All
of
us
went
through
this
together
and
the
goal
is
to
lay
the
foundation
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
authentic
commitment
in
leading
diversity,
equity,
inclusion,
but,
most
importantly,
that
we
have
a
common
language.
So
as
of
now,
this
has
been
complete.
F
All
leadership
as
well
as
all
equity
council
leaders
have
gone
through
nine
hours
of
training
in
the
first
year,
looking
at
operationalizing
equity,
valuing
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
building
cultural
competence
and
managing
unconscious
bias.
Now
it's
important
to
name
that,
although
we've
completed
that
for
this
year,
this
training
will
be
continuous.
F
What
you're
wanting
to
pay
attention
to,
though,
is
the
fact
that
we
were
very
intentional
in
looking
at
not
how
our
external
partners
only
the
services
they
receive,
but
how
they
are
receiving
them.
How
do
they
feel
about
how
they're
receiving
them,
and
so
that's
what
that
audit
really
does
is
helps
us
identify
that,
just
because
we're
working
with
a
community
or
providing
a
service
doesn't
mean
it's
meeting
the
mark
doesn't
mean
our
community
feels
it's
equitable
and
it
doesn't
mean
there's
not
areas
to
grow.
F
The
internal
equity
audit
has
four
major
areas
right,
and
it
really
is
to
evaluate
the
current
culture
of
all
of
our
departments,
but
our
county
as
a
whole.
So
often
when
you
come
into
this
work
right,
people
have
these
gut
reactions.
I
know
what
we
need
to
focus
on.
It's
really
important
to
use
data
to
help
you
understand
what
direction
you
want
to
go
into
so
that
you're
not
spending
your
wheels.
So
the
first
piece
on
the
survey
on
workplace
culture,
that's
really
to
look
at
the
overall
culture
of
the
county.
Where
do
we
sit?
F
How
are
people
feeling
about
this
work?
How
do
people
feel
when
they
show
up
in
their
identities
right?
The
next
piece,
though,
is
a
very
specific
audit
around
department
culture.
So
every
department
has
its
own
culture
right
depending
on.
If
what
you
do,
is
it
traditionally
a
more
office?
Centered
position?
Are
you
out
in
the
field?
All
of
those
things
impact
your
culture
and
it's
important
to
know
not
only
what
the
county
looks
like,
but
what
specific
areas
do
departments
need
to
focus
on
the
next
part
of
this
audit
will
focus
on
focus
groups.
F
We
know
that
surveys
are
a
piece
of
data,
but
we
also
know
that
some
of
the
most
impactful
data
is
that
anecdotal
data,
the
qualitative
data
where
you
can
go
in
and
say
I
noticed
that
you
were
saying
this.
What
experiences
have
you
had
that
really
helps
us
drill
a
little
bit
deeper
down
in
the
areas
we
need
to
look
at
and
assess
and
finally,
for
both
of
those
pieces,
we'll
have
action,
plans
and
recommendation
reports
with
kpis
aligned.
F
F
This
is
a
really
big
deal
because
there's
no
other
governments
in
this,
but
it
opens
up
a
network
you're
with
some
of
the
top
leaders
doing
this
work.
But,
most
importantly,
we
can
continue
to
align
best
practices
as
we
move
forward,
so
that
we're
proactive
and
not
reactive
in
our
recommendations
and
policies.
F
Another
highlight
is:
we've
launched
the
oakland
county
equity
website.
This
website
will
be
a
hub
for
resources
for
dialogue
frameworks,
but,
most
importantly,
upcoming
events
and
trainings.
So
it's
a
really
great
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we're
staying,
visible
and
connected
for
those
who
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
work,
those
who
want
to
snoop
a
little
bit.
You
know
I'm
not
that
comfortable
just
yet,
but
maybe
there's
a
blog.
I
can
look
at
or
an
article.
It
really
allows
people
to
interject
themselves
in
this
work,
how
they
feel
comfortable
right,
multiple
spaces.
F
Finally,
a
highlight
is
two
departments
leading
equity
councils.
There
are
already
two
departments
leading
equity
councils
within
their
own
department,
so
the
health
division
already
has
their
own
internal
health,
equity
team
and
so
does
barb
henke
is
leading
one
with
hers
as
well.
Now
the
goal
right
at
a
county
level.
We
launched
this
equity
council,
but
it's
always
my
goal
that
when
we
do
this,
it's
supposed
to
encourage
those
leaders
to
go
back
and
implement
those
within
their
own
department.
F
F
We
will
solidify
our
equity
action
plan
and
equity
kpis
by
departments,
and
those
are
really
going
to
be
contingent
upon
the
information
provided
by
both
of
those
reports
where
directors
may
want
to
start
looking
and
framing
their
equity
efforts.
We'll
also
be
looking
at
a
deep
dive
assessment
into
supplier
and
procurement
diversity.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
around
that,
so
I
really
want
to
make
sure
we
keep
you
in
the
loop
and
how
that's
going
and
then
finally,
we
will
be
extending
our
equity
focus
to
external
communities.
F
F
We
will
be
consulting
with
the
national
diversity
council
now
that
we
have
a
partnership
with
them
and
that's
in
progress
currently
them
helping
us
identify
what
other
governments
have
done
all
around
right.
It's
a
national
council
and
what
has
been
best
practices
so
who
are
the
people
who
should
be
at
the
table
for
our
external
partnership
to
ensure
it
is
successful?
B
Thank
you
robin
for
coming
before
us
this
morning
and
giving
us
this
presentation.
It
does
give
us
an
idea
of
the
important
work
that
you
do
and
it's
such
a
significant
diversity,
inclusion
and
equity,
especially
these
days,
there's
no
important
time
than
ever,
and
to
make
sure
that
we
are
leading
oakland
county
with
those
important
thoughts
of
a
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
we
are
fortunate
to
have
you
as
our
first
thank
you
chief
diversity
and
equity
officer
commissioners,
commissioner
gershenson.
G
Well,
I'm
I'm
kind
of
blown
away
by
all
this
information.
It's
it's
been
a
long
time
coming.
Many
of
us
have
been
advocates
for
something
like
this
for
years,
so
I'm
I'm
almost
overwhelmed
with
the
the
depth
of
this
field
and
how
it's
it's
really
grown,
and
I
would
love
to
get
a
copy
of
that
presentation
just
because
there
are
a
lot
of
new
ideas
for
me.
F
Very
good
question:
we
actually
opened
up
applications
for
people
to
apply,
and
so
megan
applied.
That
was
there
were
no
other
commissioners
that
did
apply.
G
F
When
that
comes
again
like
last
time,
the
application
will
be
put
out
and
I'll
normally
tap
like
over.
Here,
I
said,
hey
just
making
sure
you
know
the
application
is
open
until
hit
this
point.
We'll
do
that
same
thing
again,
but
I
can
make
sure
that
I
specifically
talk
to
you
all
and
say
hey
just
so.
You
know
it's
coming.
G
G
That's
something
somebody
okay
to
see
that
we're
branching
out
into
the
asian
community
is
extremely
exciting
to
me,
because
I
I
don't
see
any
asian
faces
in
in
the
county,
so
I'm
I'm
really
glad
we're
doing
that,
and
I'd
also
like
to
see
some
chaldean
representation.
G
So
if
you
need
any
help
connecting
with
that
community,
I
have
a
good
relationship
with
many
members
and
then
I'd
like
to
have
you
come
back
at
least
on
a
quarterly
timetable
so
that
we
we
know
what
you're
doing
and
where
we
can
participate.
We'll
understand
the
opportunities
where
we
can
be
involved.
H
Thank
you,
chairwoman.
Thank
you,
robert
for
this
presentation,
and
I
just
wanted
to
just
make
one
comment.
First
of
all
before
my
question
is
that
I
appreciate
and
I'm
sure,
as
a
board,
we
all
appreciate
you
giving
us
kudos
for
your
position
and
thinking
about
the
need
for
a
diversity
and
equity
and
inclusion
officer
along
with
the
executive
office.
So
I
appreciate
that
that
you're,
recognizing
that
it
was
a
joint
effort.
As
far
as
you
coming
question.
H
Yes,
have
you
been
met
with
much
resistance
and
trying
to
get
people
to
understand
what
this
work
is
about?.
F
That's
a
really
good
question,
commissioner
jackson.
I
think
that
what
I've
been
met
with
more
than
anything
is
discomfort
right.
This
is
new
work
and
so
for
me,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
leave
this
work.
For
me,
it's
really
important
to
meet
people
where
they
are
for
some
people,
they've,
never
heard
of
the
term
equity
and
when
they've
heard
of
diversity,
it
was
always
in
isolation
to
race,
particularly
black
people.
F
So
I
think
that
just
making
sure
that
people
have
a
space
to
know
we
can
unpack
this,
but
also
making
this
work
relevant
to
their
own
space
right.
How
do
I
fit
into
this
work?
You
want
me
to
lead
it,
but
I've
got
to
know
how
I
fit
in.
That
has
been
a
huge
success
for
me
to
connect
those
voices
and
connecting
that
opportunity
with
people,
but
I
think
also
creating
a
space
where
people
can
be
ignorant
and
say
robin.
F
I
don't
know
this,
and
I
don't
understand
this
and
having
that
psychological
safety
to
say
that's,
okay,
let's
talk
about
it,
I
don't
feel
that
it's
been
met
with
much
resistance,
because
people
have
had
a
space
to
vocalize
where
they
are.
I
think
the
key
that
we
are
really
working
through
is
the
discomfort
and
people
having
to
understand
that
this
work
is
not
comfortable
and
if
it
is
you're,
probably
not
doing
it
right.
H
H
You
and
congratulations
on
reaching
out
externally
two
of
the
cities,
one
of
the
city's
city
of
southfield,
as
well
as
farmington
hills
michigan.
They
are
in
process
of
hiring
equity,
diversion
and
equity
inclusion
professionals
at
the
city
level.
So
it
would
be
good
that
you'll
be
able
to
meet
those
individuals
and
converse
with
them
and
kind
of
just
keep
track
of
all
the
municipalities
that
are
undergoing
this
effort
as
well.
B
F
Yes,
so
right
now,
for
this
year,
one
it
was
really
important
to
lay
that
foundation
with
our
leadership
team.
What
we
know
through
research
is
that,
if
our
leadership
teams
are
not
on
board,
it's
very
difficult
to
translate
this
work,
so
one
of
the
mild
ways
right
and
it's
not
as
aggressive
as
we'd
like
to
be
in
year.
Three
is
the
equity
council.
By
having
those
voices,
the
equity
council
leaders
go
back
to
their
department,
they
lead
conversations
during
professional
development.
I
always
vet
the
project
or
you
know
I've
had
someone
say
robin.
F
I
want
to
do
this,
I'm,
like
I
don't
know,
just
not
yet
right,
baby
steps,
but
they're
so
eager
and
their
departments
are
receiving
them.
Well
now,
in
full
honesty,
some
departments
are
not
ready
right,
but
I
think
that
that
just
is
really
helpful
for
our
equity
leaders
to
know
robin
they
weren't
ready
for
this,
and
then
I
can
say
well,
let's
look
at
what
they
are
ready
for,
so
those
faces
from
the
council
on
the
ground
has
been
instrumental
to
really
start
moving
the
conversation
throughout
the
county
excellent.
I.
B
Love
how
you
had
previously
said
that
you
meet
people
where
they
are
yeah
and
that's
the
most
important.
That's
where
change
begins
is
meeting
people
where
they
are,
despite
where
we'd
like
them
to
be.
So.
I
appreciate
and
value
that
you've
made
that
very
clear
that
you
know.
Ultimately,
my
first
goal
is
to
meet
you
where
you
are
regardless.
If
I'd
like
you
up
here,
yes,
I'm
gonna
meet
you
where
you
are
and
work
together
to
get
you
out
there.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Yes,
absolutely
commissioners
does
anyone
else.
B
I
Thank
you
excuse
me
and
good
morning
to
everybody
good
morning,
ms
cooper,
I
want
to
echo
what
commissioner
gershenson
said.
The
comprehensive
aspects
of
your
presentation
were
really
really
encouraging
and
I'm
I'm
very
excited
to
see
that
oakland
county
is
truly
so
committed
to
moving
out
in
this
dei
space
in
a
very
meaningful
way.
I
live
in
a
community
where
we
actually
have
a
quite
a
high
asian
population
and
we
are
seeing
conflicts.
I
That's
a
rough
word,
but
there's
a
lot
of
you
know.
Discussion
happening
out
here
about
what
what
resources
we
have,
what
dei
really
means-
and
I
guess
I'm
looking
for-
do
you
really
have
a
role
so
that
you
know
people
in
a
community
such
as
mine
can
come
to
you
with
issues
that
they
have.
Or
do
you
see
that
more
on?
I
I
I
don't
know,
how
do
you
see
your
role
in
that
kind
of
thing
where
we
have
communities
that
need
help,
but
in
my
case
it's
a
library
board
and
it's
the
city
council
is
not
really
ready
to
address
it.
So
you
know
you're
an
expert.
Could
the
library
have
you
come
speak
god?
How
do
you
see
yourself,
interacting
with
the
communities
and
other
organizations
that
need
help.
F
Really
good
question
can.
Can
you
see
me,
I
think,
okay,
perfect,
I'm
looking
at
the
angles
in
the
room
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
you
can
see
my
reaction
so
really
good
question.
I
will
tell
you:
I
have
a
lot
of
people
reach
out.
I've
had
judges
reach
out
of
chamber.
I've
done
work
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
twice
presented.
F
I
have
other
organizations
that
will
reach
out,
so
what
I
will
tell
you
is
there
has
been
communities.
Southfield
has
been
one
that
has
been
very
vocal
in
reaching
out
and
asking
me,
you
know
we're
looking
at
doing
this.
Does
this
make
sense?
So
in
the
meantime,
I
think
it's
absolutely
appropriate
for
people
to
reach
out
so
that
I
can
be
a
resource,
but
I
think
the
other
part
right
is
this
external
piece,
which
is
why
I'm
working
with
national
diversity
council,
because
we
have
to
start
building
that
leadership
within
our
cvts.
F
It's
important
to
know
that
I
am
a
resource,
but
it's
also
important
to
know
that
they
have
a
lot
of
resources
right
within
their
own
communities
and
if
they
don't,
how
do
we
build
that
capacity
within?
So
I'm
really
excited
to
look
at
that
external
partner
to
see
who
are
the
leaders
in
those
communities
that
need
to
be
at
the
table
so
that
they
can
also
assume
that
leadership
role
and
where
people
can
feel
comfortable
coming
to
me.
They
also
have
others
right
within
their
own
community
that
they
can
go
to.
E
I
thank
you
for
doing
such
a
great
job
with
your
presentation.
I
wanted
to
also
echo
with
what
gusherson
stated
as
far
as
having
robin
come
back
and
give
us
maybe
quarterly
reports
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
so
that
we
can
stay
in
tune
of
her
process,
her
progress
in
her
studies
and
her
findings
and
everything,
and
eventually
I'm
also
going
to
ask
chair
nelson-
that
I
think
it's
very
important
that
she
express
this
whole
report
to
all
21
commissioners.
E
So
eventually,
when
she's,
ready
and
comfortable,
I
would
like
to
see
her
present
to
all
21
of
us,
possibly
even
at
a
board
meeting
once
you
know,
you
feel
the
information
is
ready
to
share
with
all
21
commissioners
so
that
everyone
is
included
and
know
about
this
progress
and
work
that
she's
doing
so.
That's
one
thing.
E
I
have
two
questions
and
one
is
I
wanted
to
know
in
your
office.
What
does
your
support
staff
look
like
for
your
department
and
then
what
did
they
provide
you
with
a
budget?
And
if
so,
what
does
that
budget
look
like
for
you
and
is
it
supportive
or
eventually
do
you
think
you
have
to
come
back
to
us
or
the
executive
to
expand
your
budget
based
on
the
work
or
you
would
know
that
answer
as
you
progress,
but
could
you
break
that
down
for
us?
Thank
you.
F
Absolutely
so
currently,
right
now
the
dei
office
is
myself,
and
then
I
have
an
administrative
support,
jamie
finner,
who
is
phenomenal,
so
I
will
tell
you
that
it's
it's
kind
of
a
party
of
two
right,
but
currently,
what
I
think
is
most
important
is
as
we
move
this
work,
it's
really
helpful
to
assess
what
that
need
looks
like,
as
opposed
to
creating
a
department
because
of
my
gut
right.
My
gut
says
I
need
five
people.
F
My
data
doesn't
support
that,
though
right
and
so
it's
important
to
me
to
look
at
what
are
the
needs
for
this
department?
Do
we
need
a
person
that
specifically
addresses
data?
Do
we
need
a
manager
who
can
be
kind
of
on
the
ground
when
I'm
not
able
to
come
in?
Do
we
need
a
trainer
to
continue
to
push
these
trainings?
So
I
think,
as
we
assess
where
we
are,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
reports
that
will
come
after
aecom
and
mts
are
finished.
With
the
internal
and
external
assessment.
F
I
think
that
the
decision
to
expand
this
department
will
be
rooted
with
data,
and
it
will
really
be
intentional
in
looking
at
a
needs
assessment.
As
opposed
to
just
bringing
bodies
in
a
department
in
terms
of
a
budget,
currently
we
have
a
diversity
budget
of
50.
F
000
again,
do
I
think,
that's
gonna
grow
absolutely,
but
I
typically
like
to
move
and
see
what
are
my
needs
and
how
am
I
allocating
those
needs
to
line
items
and
are
there
some
needs
that
don't
have
to
be
met
with
money
but
can
be
met
with
other
resources
through
partnerships
looking
at
community
opportunities,
and
so
again
I
think
a
lot
of
this
within
our
year.
One
and
starting
to
do
this
work
will
create
a
much
more
intentional
way
of
building
this
department
so
that
it's
sustainable,
but
it's
also
fiscally
responsible.
E
Well,
that'd
be
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
Commissioners
is
there
anyone
else
who'd
like
to
ask
any
other
questions,
provide
any
comments.
B
B
B
Commissioners?
This
is
a
request
to
approve
another
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
the
michigan
nurses
association
for
public
health
nurses.
The
term
of
this
agreement
is
from
october
1st
2021
to
september
30th
2025,
and
this
agreement
approximately
covers
90
public
health
nurses,
and
I
do
believe
we
have
april
here
with
us
this
morning
to
give
us
a
little
bit
further
insight
and
answer
any
questions.
So
welcome
april.
J
J
You
can
see
the
general
summary
here
ranges.
We
have
a
four-year
contract
instead
of
three
with
wages
for
this
next
year
at
1.5,
moving
into
two
two
and
a
one
in
the
final
year.
That
will
also
have
a
me
also
clause,
as
we
take
a
look
at
what
our
budget
can
handle
for
that
time,
period,
benefits
and
retirement
again
common
theme:
we're
increasing
that
wellness
payment
for
their
health
risk
appraisal
from
100
to
150
defined
contribution
increase
of
457..
J
They
have
also
agreed
to
some
changes
in
healthcare,
which
include
some
of
the
many
of
the
pieces
that
we
discussed
with
you
at
lago
last
week,
which
was
some
changes
to
some
administrative
functions,
an
increase
in
23
of
their
bi-weekly
payment
to
10
and
an
increase
in
23
for
the
or
24
for
extra
going
up
five
dollars
for
their
prescription.
J
Sorry,
I'm
having
a
little-
let's
not
have
enough
coffee
today
and
then
a
few
other
things
within
there
is
just
clarifying
some
comp
time
eligibility,
maintaining
some
license
maintenance
for
their
ceus
for
their
license
for
be
keeping
up
with
their
nursing
certificates
and
again,
some
of
those
things
that
we
talked
about
of
making
sure
that
if
they're
working
10
hour
shifts
that
they're
taking
vacation
in
that
same
in
that
same
10
hour
function,
so
nothing
all
really
crazy.
J
Again,
another
very
collaborative
interplay
with
the
women
with
the
nurses
and
enjoyed
working
with
them.
And
here
we
have
our
agreement
so
we'll
be
back
again
next
time
for
a
few
more.
B
B
Yay
zero
nays
motion
carries
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
item
9c
resolution
exempting
oakland
county
from
public
act,
152
of
2011
for
calendar
year
2022..
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
luke's
support
by
commissioner
gershenson
commissioners?
This
is
a
request
to
exempt
oakland
connie
from
the
requirements
of
public
act
152
for
calendar
year
2022
public
act
152
provides
for
certain
limitations
on
the
amount
of
public
employer
that
a
public
employer
may
contribute
towards
the
annual
cost
of
employee
medical
benefits.
B
Have
april
here
this
morning
to
give
us
further
explanation
and
explore
so
welcome
again
april.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
actually
going
to
give
an
opportunity
here
to
stephanie
federicki.
She
is
our
supervisor
over
benefits
and
wellness
and
she's
going
to
give
a
little
overview
about
what
pa
152
is
and
and
where
we
are
with
that
and,
of
course,
I'll
step
in.
If
anybody
has
any
further
questions
or
stuff
that
needs
my
support.
So
stephanie
I'm
going
to
call
you
up
sure.
C
C
Hi,
hello,
commission,
thanks
for
having
me
a
little
bit
about
pa
152
that
was
enacted
in
2011.
The
state
identifies
what
those
hard
caps
are.
Historically
oakland
county
has
opted
out
of
the
public
act.
This
allows
us
to
do
what's
best
for
our
employees
and
it
keeps
their
costs
lower
and
it
helps
with
our
recruitment
and
retention
practices.
J
J
Originally
in
2011
it
came
out,
it
was
going
to
be
for
all
employees
and
then
they
exempted
the
public
safety
unions
from
that
as
well.
So,
every
year
you
have
to
take
a
look
at
where
you
are
with
the
hard
cap
and
make
a
conscious
decision
to
opt
out
or
put
in
play.
The
hard
cap
which
again
would
require,
I
believe,
the
twenty
percent
contribution,
or
something
with
in
linemen
of
that
there,
any
particular
questions
on
152
before
somebody
goes
into
where
we're
at.
B
So
april
I
guess
I
I
do
have
a,
I
guess,
a
question
for
clarification
and
learning
more
about
it.
How
does
the
public
act
152
come
into
play
with
the
five-year
strategic
plan
that
we
just
heard
during
our
last
lago
meeting
in
regards
to
benefits
and
contributions
for
health
care
and
cost
saving
measures.
C
Yeah
and
let
me
know
if
I
need
to
expand,
but
even
with
the
if
there
are
increases
in
contributions
and
any
other
well
two
things
if
there
are
increases
in
contributions,
I
don't
anticipate
that
we
will
get
anywhere
near
the
hard
cap.
There
will
still
be
a
difference,
but
also
by
us
being
able
to
lower
our
costs
of
those
benefits.
It
could
actually
have
an
increase
in
the
difference
between
what
the
hard
cap
is
and
what
the
county
is
actually
paying
for
benefits.
J
And
that's
actually
exactly
why
we
are
opting
out
because
we
have
our
own
year
five
year
plan.
So
that's
just
the
way
that
oakland
county
has
been
handling
the
health
care
has
been
different
or
have
balancing
their
budget
has
been
focused
more
on
wages
or
other
things.
We
did
the
same
thing
in
ferndale.
We
had
a
good
relationship
with
our
employees.
We
handled
our
healthcare
in
a
different
way
that
was
best
for
us
and
in
firmdale,
so
we
always
often
always
did
opt
out
as
well.
J
J
J
H
Ms
lynch
just
addressed
my
question,
I
wondered
about
the
you
know:
net
effect
on
the
employee
and
you
restated
it.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
B
A
B
B
At
the
onset
of
the
approval
of
the
agenda,
I
revised
by
pulling
that
item
and
we
did
get
a
motion
of
the
revised
correct
agenda.
B
So
do
we
have
a
motion
for
support
of
the
oakland
county,
clerk's
election
process,
the
board
of
canvassers
and
confidence
in
the
november
third
2020
general
election
results
a
motion
made
by
commissioner
gershon
support
by
commissioner
jackson,
and
I
do
believe
we
have
the
sponsor
commissioner
mark
I'm
here
with
us
this
morning.
I
Yes,
good
morning
again,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
time
to
bring
this
resolution
forward.
I
think
it's
really
really
important
that
we
as
a
body
and
as
a
bipartisan
organization,
affirm
the
work
and
the
integrity
of
the
clerks
in
oakland
county,
but
also,
I
believe,
it's
important
to
understand
that
our
process
is
the
same
as
everybody
else's
process
and
the
state
of
michigan
had
many
audits
such
that
the
secretary
of
state
could
affirm
the
election.
I
As
mr
rozelle
stated,
there
is
a
cancer
of
misinformation
out
there
all
across
our
state.
Many
of
us,
not
only
the
clerks,
but
mostly
the
clerks
on
this
issue,
are
being
harassed.
Threatened.
Called
names
stated
that
they're
lying
their
integrity
is
called
into
question,
and
yet
they
are
probably
some
of
the
most
dedicated
public
servants.
I
We
have
across
the
state
there's
over
3
500
of
them,
so
I
asked
staff
to
get
with
mr
rozelle
and
pull
together
a
series
of
whereases
that
we
could
support,
saying
that
not
only
do
we
think
our
election
was
conducted
properly,
but
that
we
believe
that
that
is
the
way
we
operate
across
oakland
county
and
across
the
state.
I
feel
like
if
we
really
mean
what
we
say
about
how
we
want
to
tone
down
the
heat
in
this
state
and
across
this
country
and
how
people
are
talking
to
each
other.
I
Some
of
you
know
this.
Many
of
you
probably
don't.
My
father
was
the
oakland
county
clerk
from
1958
until
1964.,
so
I
have
followed
what
happens
in
the
clerk's
offices
all
my
life.
I
was
a
little
girl
when
that
was
going
on
and
he
would
take
me
to
look
at
the
voting
machines
with
the
levers
and
all
of
that
I
I
believe
our
system
is
second
to
none.
I
wanted.
I
want
to
support
that,
and
I
really
hope
that
we
can
have
bipartisan
support
at
the
board
level.
I
B
G
Well,
I
just
want
to
thank
commissioner
markham.
This
is
a
growing
issue
all
across
the
country.
I
was
just
listening
last
night,
certain
communities
in
other
states
have
elec
have
election
officials,
and
some
of
them
are
being
forced
to
resign
because
they
they
they
are
not
submitting
to
certain
demands
by
people
that
are
challenging
the
integrity
of
the
election.
So
I
think
this
is
an
important
statement
to
make,
and
I
thank
you
for
making
it.
C
I
do
I
need
to
make
a
motion
for
this
amendment,
or
do
we
just
need
to
discuss
it.
B
Yes,
we
do
need
a
motion
is
prior
to
that
is
the
amendment
in
the
packet.
C
Yes,
it
is
in
the
civic
clerk
and
it's
right
underneath
that,
okay,
so
right,
underneath
this
item.
C
Thank
you.
So
I
do
think
I
I
do
think
this
is
an
important
resolution
to
bring
forward.
I
echo
what
joe
rozelle
said
that
we
need
to
support
our
office
and
I
have
great
faith
in
oakland
county's
election
process,
and
I
guess
that
that's
what
my
amendment
speaks
to
that.
I
think
we
need
to
send
a
message
to
our
voters,
our
constituents
that
oakland
county
did
a
great
job
and
that's
what
we
have
control
over.
C
We
have
control
over
oakland
county's
elections
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
stay
focused
on
the
county's
business,
which
is
the
election
process.
C
So
for
that
you
know,
I
don't
I
don't
talk
to
the
secretary
of
state.
I
don't
know
their
system
so
for
that
reason,
I'm
proposing
these
amendments
to
have
it
more
focused
on
oakland
county
and
they-
and
I
think,
oakland
county-
does
an
exceptional
job
and
I
would
feel
very
comfortable
sending
this
message
to
my
constituents.
B
So
for
clarification,
commissioner,
there's
two
so
the
the
first
is
to
remove
completely
just
so.
I'm
understanding
remove
completely
the
fifth,
whereas
clause
right
and
that's
a
reference
to
this
date,
right,
correct
and
then
the
second
is
adding
and
removing
language.
C
Right,
just
changing
michigan
voters
to
oakland
county
voters
just
to
make
this
a
more
oakland
county,
focused
elections,
integrity,
okay,.
C
A
It's
a
typo
in
the
amendment.
I
apologize,
oh
okay,
so
where,
where
it
says,
add
remove
the
following
language
and
the
fifth,
whereas
it's
not
supposed
to
say
fifth,
where,
as
it's
supposed
to
say,
add.
J
B
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
so
essentially
the
fifth,
whereas
has
been
completely
omitted,
removed
and
then
in
the
first
now,
therefore
be
it
resolved
clause
is
where
we've
added
this
amendment
adds
to
in,
in
addition
to
removing
some
language.
So
right,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
amy,
okay,
commissioners,
questions
comments
open
for
discussion.
Commissioner
markham,
would
you
like
to
lead
in
the
discussion
as
the
sponsor
of
that
in
regards
to
the
amendment.
I
Well,
yes-
and
I
appreciate
commissioner
joliet's
amendment,
but
I
disagree
with
it,
because
I
do
think
that
this
is
part
of
a
bigger
message
that
that
I
want
to
send
it's
not
only
that
we
are
affirming
oakland
county's
elections,
but
that
we
believe
the
process
by
which
we
operate.
Elections
in
this
state
is
safe
and,
and
we
all
operate
the
same
way
every
every
county
has
the
same.
I
You
know,
has
election
equipment
that's
been
approved
by
the
state
and
so
on,
and
I
I
think
the
fact
that
we
know
we
ran
a
clean
election
according
to
the
rules,
and
there
are
all
the
other
counties
have
said.
The
same
thing.
I
do
want
a
piece
of
this
resolution
to
be
that
we
are
in
support
of
what's
happened
across
our
state.
I'm
also
hopeful
that
other
commissions
will
do
the
same
thing.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
chorus
in
out
there.
I
That
says
we
believe
in
our
elections
and
you
know
the
boundaries
yeah.
We
live
in
our
in
our
county,
which
is
a
square,
but
the
news,
media
and
conversations
happen
across
the
state
and
across
the
boundaries,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we,
we
are
a
very
strong
county.
We
are
a
very
important
county
to
the
state
and
I
think
our
message
will
carry
so.
I
am
not
in
support
of
the
amendment
I,
but
thank
you.
I
C
I
appreciate
your
feedback
and
I
would
be
in
support
of
the
amendment
if
it
was
focused
in
oakland
county,
but
I
will
agree
to
disagree
and
I
I
see
your
point
so
thank
you.
Excellent.
B
B
A
B
One
nay
motion
carries
next
we'll
move
on
to
our
last
item
of
the
agenda,
which
is
9f.
Resolution
advocate
passage
of
house
bill
5026
to
amend
the
emergency
911
servicing
enabling
act.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lubes
support
by
commissioner
juliette
and
I
believe
our
sponsor
commissioner
loops?
Thank
you.
Thank.
K
Thank
you,
commissioner,
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me.
I'm
pat
codes,
I'm
the
county,
911
coordinator,
I
work
at
klemas
over
at
the
current
bill
is
to
amend
the
public
act
that
started
in
1980.
K
Everybody
had
a
landline
and
the
funding
for
the
network,
the
old
copper
telephone
network
that
supported
was
a
surcharge
that
every
person
with
a
landline
every
business,
every
individual
paid
so
basics.
The
cost
of
the
9-1-1
network
has
never
been
a
local
or
not
or
county
cost.
It's
all
supported
by
the
users
of
the
system.
K
Now,
over
the
years,
this
act
has
had
to
be
tweaked
and
amended
because
telecommunication
communications
changed
it.
We
added
in
wireless
and
now
actually
more
than
85
of
911
calls
come
from
wireless
devices.
There
are
not
that
many
landlines
anymore
there
are
voice
over
ip
voice
over
internet
protocol
phone
systems
such
as
those
you
might
have.
If
you
have
vonage
or
if
you
get
your
phone
serviced
through
your
cable
company,
that's
a
voip
system
and
the
county
has
just
changed
to
avoid
telepho
telephone
system.
K
So
over
the
years
the
network
had
to
be
tweaked,
because
the
old
network
could
handle
very
little
data.
It
could
give
us
the
caller's
voice,
but
it
could
not
give
us
much
more
than
their
name
address
and
phone
number
nowadays.
Telecommunication
devices,
as
you
know,
are
our
computers.
They
can
send
us
all
kinds
of
the
information
about
the
location
of
the
caller.
K
K
Oakland
county
is
on
that
as
he
net
we
have
been
for
about
five
years.
The
provider
of
choice
in
michigan
has
been
peninsula
fiber
network,
it's
a
local
michigan,
fiber
provider
out
of
the
upper
peninsula
and
82
of
the
83
counties,
have
already
moved
peninsula
fiber
networks.
So
they
are
our
network
of
choice
as
all
these
transitions
occurred.
However,
even
though
there
are
many
local
costs
for
9-1-1
for
operational
and
equipment
cost,
the
network
has
still
been
funded
by
a
user
fee,
but
the
user
fee
has
changed.
K
I
have
a
landline.
I
also
have
a
contract
for
my
cellular
service
and
that
fee
25
cents
for
every
device
that
can
contact
9-1-1,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
users
out
there
who
don't
have
contracts
anymore.
We
call
them
prepaid
users
or
pay,
as
you
go
folks,
they're
the
kinds
who
go
out
and
buy
minutes
if
you
will
and
load
them
on
their
phone.
K
K
K
K
We're
not
sure
why
there
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that.
When
we
went
back
to
the
legislature
four
years
ago,
the
average
cost
was
almost
forty
dollars
a
month
that
people
were
downloading
now
you
can
go
online
and
download
a
lot
of
minutes
for
as
little
as
ten
dollars,
so
five
percent
of
the
cost
has
decreased.
K
K
More
and
more
people
are
downloading
their
service
from
the
internet,
and
if
I
go
online
and
download
service
to
my
phone,
I
might
be
dealing
with
a
company
in
south
dakota
or
texas.
That
doesn't
know
the
michigan
law
doesn't
know
they're
supposed
to
remit
five
percent
to
the
state,
so
that
revenue
has
come.
In
short,
if
we
do
not
change
that,
the
network
fund
in
lansing
will
be
by
2023
if
it's
not
fixed.
Some
of
those
costs
will
revert
to
the
county.
K
Originally,
we
thought
we
needed
to
increase
both
the
25
cents
to
27
cents
and
the
five
percent
on
the
prepaid
to
six
and
a
half
percent.
Fortunately,
the
legislature
came
through
with
an
appropriation.
They
have
granted
the
fund
16
million
dollars
to
help
offset
the
hole-
that's
already
been
dug
by
the
loss
of
this
revenue.
K
K
K
We've
always
asked
for
a
sunset
on
this
bill
because
it's
technology
and
it's
telecommunications
and
it
changes
constantly,
and
we
feel
the
need
to
go
back
to
the
legislature
and
explain
changes
and
any
costs
that
might
so
the
sunset
will
be
2027..
We
are
asking
for
the
increase
to
six
percent
we're
asking
for
some
technical
changes.
There
are
a
lot
of
clauses
in
there
about
how
book
county
board
of
commissioners
can
amend
the
county,
9-1-1
service
plan
and
that
language
goes
back
to
1986.
K
there.
Everything
has
to
be
done
by
u.s
mail,
for
example.
This
will
allow
some
changes
where
you
can
actually
do
some
electronic
notifications.
Should
the
county
choose
to
do
that,
you
can
still
always
rely
on
us
mail.
It
also
removes
all
the
references
that
we
worked
on
so
hard
four
years
ago
on
multi-line
telephone
systems.
K
We
are
deleting
all
of
that,
because
there
is
now
federal
law
that
supersedes
it
and,
in
some
cases,
conflicts
with
it.
So
I've
been
getting
calls
from
businesses
that
have
those
kind
of
systems
asking
which
set
of
laws
they
should
adhere
to.
This
will
remove
the
state
one
and
will
only
have
to
work
from
the
federal
one.
K
K
K
Should
the
treasury
actually
find
more
people
who
need
to
be
paying
and
get
them
to
pay,
there's
rollback
language
that
would
allow
that
six
percent
to
go
back
down
automatically
if
the
funding
exceeds
12
million
dollars
for
more
than
three
consecutive
quarters.
K
K
They
are
tentatively
scheduling
more
testimony
tomorrow,
but
there
is
some
debate.
Obviously
anytime
you
raise
a
fee.
There
are
questions
right
now.
The
phone
companies
are
fighting
some
language
in
there
that
cause
anybody
who
has
not
been
remitting
to
pay
interest
and
back
payments.
They
don't
want
to
see
that
in
there,
so
there
may
be
a
substitute,
but
the
guts
of
the
legislation
are
that
we
need
to
increase
the
fee
so
that
it
does
not
become
a
county
cost.
We
need
to
extend
the
sunset.
K
G
Gershenson
well
hi
pat
welcome.
That
was
a
lot
of
information.
I'm
sorry!
No!
No
right
is
this
time
sensitive.
K
It
still
has
to
go
out
of
committee
and
to
the
full
house,
then
on
to
the
senate,
so
considering
they're
rather
shortened
calendar
in
lansing
this
year.
I
don't
know
when
the
senate
will
take
it
up
if
they
take
it
before
their
thanksgiving
break.
It
certainly
is
time
sensitive
if
they
go
into
december,
we're
all
going
to
be
in
panic
mode
because
we're
getting
close
to
the
sunset,
but
either
way
we
only
have
a
few
months
left
and
they
have
a
very
short
calendar.
This
year.
G
Okay,
I
would
like
to
understand
the
op.
Is
there
opposition
to
this
I'd
like
to
understand
both
sides
of
the
argument?
I'm
pat,
you
know.
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
the
work
that
you
do
and
in
your
recommendations,
but
this
was
a
lot
to
understand
and
if
you're
saying
that
we
would
have
until
at
the
short
end
to
thanksgiving,
we
do
have
another
lago
meeting
on
november,
2nd.
K
And
I
cannot
guarantee
that
if
it
goes
through
committee
and
they
were
planning
to
vote
tomorrow,
it
could
go
to
the
full
house
in
a
matter
of
days
and
then
on
to
the
senate.
So
this
may
happening
very
quickly.
So
I
cannot
guarantee
that
right
now
there
is
no
opposition
to
the
bill
at
the
okay.
K
At
the
testimony
we
gave
on
the
six,
everyone
was
in
support,
including
some
major
players
like
atnt,
the
telephone
association
of
michigan.
The
only
question
is
really
with
treasury.
They
are
discussing
exactly
how
the
audit
language
would
work.
Is
it
retroactive
which
is
not
intended
to
be,
but
would
they
want
language
in
there
to
make
sure
we're
not
going
back
after
people
who
have
not
been
remitting
for
the
past
four
years?
We
wanted
to
move
forward.
B
Commissioners
is
there
any
further
discussion
on
item
f,
advocating
for
the
passage
of
house
bill
5026
to
amend
the
emergency
911
service
enabling
act?
Commissioner,
jackson.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
want
to
because
I'm
making
note
of
the
second,
whereas
in
the
resolution
that
states
without
an
extension
of
the
act,
oakland
county
has
no
authority
to
provide
9-1-1
service
or
to
determine
the
technical,
operational
manager
or
fiscal
aspects
of
9-1-1
service
within
the
within
the
county
are
in
service
district,
so
that
sunset
for
december
31st.
That's
what
they're
speaking
of
after.
If
that
should
transpire
before
the
state
takes
action
of
homeless,
then
why.
K
Because
the
act
911
is
the
only
about
michigan
or
anyone
in
oakland,
county
and
or
oakland
county
to
actually
empower
9-1-1.
Without
this
act,
the
phone
companies
etc
are
not
required
to
adhere
to
michigan
standards.
There
are
still
some
federal
rules
that
might
be
in
place
for
the
wireless
carriers,
but
the
regular
telecommunication
carriers
are
actually
governed
by
the
michigan
public
service
commission,
and
this
act
is
the
only
thing
that
really
enables
9-1-1
in
michigan.
J
H
That
term,
in
a
long
time-
and
I
remember
four
years
ago
when
robert
daddow
was
speaking
about
a
possibility
of
the
county
being
very,
very
harmed
by
these
types
of
fees
and
the
cost
of
the
edgy
net
or
that
whole
the
balance
of
the
whole
transaction,
there's
nothing
in
the
resolution
about
the
edging
that
and
commissioner
gershon
the
point
that
she's
making
is
very,
very
critical,
because
whenever
in
the
past-
and
you
know
this
pat
because
you've
always
been
the
leader
in
these
types
of
resolutions,
we
get
a
lot
of
consternation
from
the
public.
H
At
this
point
in
time,
the
five
to
the
six
and
a
half
percent
increase.
Could
you
just
let
us
know
again
what
population
that
affects?
Is
that
just
the
prepaid
users
or
what
population
does
that
want
to
have?
It
is
the
prepaid
users
only.
K
Right,
it
is
just
the
folks
who
use
the
prepaid,
the
pay
as
you
go
kind
of
users,
those
of
us
with
contracts
for
landlines
or
contracts
for
cellular
or
voip
service,
we're
already
paying
25
cents,
and
that
continues.
K
This
would
be
just
for
the
folks
who
buy
it
from
a
retailer,
buy
it
online
by
their
minutes,
whatever
they
are
already
paying
considerably
less
than
contractual
customers
are
because
for
one
thing
it's
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
cheaper,
but
also
there
are
three
charges.
As
you
know,
the
county
assesses
a
local
surcharge,
42
cents
a
month
that
goes
towards
our
costs
on
network
our
911
equipment
and
for
our
radio
system
for
all
our
public
safety
responders.
K
Prepaid
customers
don't
pay
that
so
that
you
know,
is
kind
of
takes
into
account
an
average
of
all
those
local
surcharges
throughout
the
state,
because
they're
already
getting
a
break
on
some
surcharges,
so
increasing
it
from
five
percent
to
six,
which
really
keeps
it
in
line
with
sales
tax
and
is
something
most
people
understand,
is
not
huge
for
most
of
these
folks.
A
H
B
B
I
will
close
public
comment.
Commissioners.
Is
there
anything
to
come
before
the
legislative,
any
other,
further
business
to
come
before
the
legislative
affairs
government
operations
committee
this
morning
already
see
none
without
objection.
I
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
11
16..
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Thank
you.