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C
E
E
F
All
right,
thank
you.
Good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Rick
Cruz
I
am
a
business
agent
for
the
IBEW,
we're
also
members
of
the
AFL
CIO
and
Building
Trades
I
represent
the
hard
work
working
men
and
women
of
Oakland
County
and
specifically
I'm
here
for
the
shelter
attendance
we
represent
members
there
that
are
working
hard
every
day
to
try
to
keep
the
place
and
span
and
clean
for
the
county
to
come
in.
F
We
have
residents
that
come
in
during
hours,
I
think
operational
hours
start
at
10
o'clock
and
our
shelter
attendants
get
there
early
to
try
to
keep
the
place
clean
and
they
have
seen
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
dogs
and
and
animals
that
are
at
the
shelter
it's
not
unique
to
just
Oakland
County.
F
It
looks
like
it's
a
national
Trend
across
the
country
that
the
amount
of
animals
both
that
are
abandoned
and
that
I
think
some
of
our
our
residents
are
just
had
enough
of
the
dogs
and
cats
and
they're
turning
them
back
in
they're
surrounding
their
their
pets.
So
we've
seen
an
increase
I
think
the
shelter
was
designed
for
150
at
a
Max,
I
believe
for
dogs
and
I
think
we're
well
overgraded
about
183
the
last
top
number
so
we're
we're
here
in
support
of
the
administration.
F
We,
we
have
I,
think
you'll
see
from
the
administration
a
very
comprehensive
and
thoughtful
plan
to
address
what
we
believe
is
undue
stress
on
the
working
men
and
women
there
that
they
need
some
relief.
They
need
some
extra
help,
so
we
are
here
to
support
the
administration
and
and
their
proposal
that
you'll
hear
I'm
sure
shortly
I'm.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
E
The
first
public
comment
is
closed.
We
move
on
to
our
agenda
item.
The
first
is
a
Health
and
Human
Service
recommendation
amendment
number
six
to
the
2008-7216
eagle
PCR
methods
for
Oakland
County
beaches
agreement
I,
have
a
motion
by
commissioner
Nelson
support
from
commissioner
Joliet
again.
Do
we
have
Leanne,
oh
here,
Leanne's.
E
D
D
D
Estate
on
this
for
quite
actually
seven
years
now
they
have
to
get
enough
data
to
be
able
to
change
the
law
so
that
we
can
use
QPR
testing
as
the
standard
way
of
doing
Beach
sampling
versus
the
current
way,
which
takes
sometimes
two
days
for
us
to
get
the
results
back,
and
this
would
be
the
same
day
return.
So
what
it
does
provide
for
us
right
now,
the
qpcr
is,
it
does
provide
a
quick
turnaround
and
we
can
do
an
advisory.
So
hopefully
you
all
have
been
receiving
those.
D
Each
notices
that
we
have
been
sending
so
you'll
see
some
beaches
are
advisories
right,
but
at
least
we're
posting
something
to
say:
hey,
there
could
be
a
problem
here,
you
know,
watch
swimming
and
then
once
we
get
the
final
results
or
the
preferred
or
allowed
results,
then
we
actually
go
present
the
closing
where
we
pull
the
Ambassador.
D
E
Oh,
thank
you,
commissioner,
gershenson,
followed
by
commissioner.
G
D
Actually,
I
can
send
that
to
I'll,
send
it
to
Patty.
If
you.
D
A
Year,
okay
and
I,
as
commissioner
gershenson
stated,
we
sit
on
a
number
of
Lake
boards
and
there's
some
smaller
lakes
that
I
sit
on
that
I
probably
are
not
included.
How
do
they
get
on
that
list?.
D
So
they
can
connect
with
our
environmental
health
Team
we
generally
there's
a
five-year
rotation
is
what
we
do
for
beaches
that
have
not
been
problematic,
I!
Guess
right,
so
we
really
look
at
if
it's
been
problematic
the
year
before
we
usually
keep
them
on
the
list
the
next
year,
but
then
all
of
our
beaches
rotation,
so
just
because
of
Staffing
right
and
being
able
to
to
get
the
samples
done,
and
so,
if
they're,
not
on
that
pattern
or
rotation,
we
could
get
them
on
that
rotation
and
start
putting
them
through
that
thing
process.
Perfect.
E
H
H
If
you
recall,
on
April
1st
of
this
year,
the
animal
shelter
assumed
that
cage
cleaning
responsibilities
from
the
saber
Building
Services,
with
the
creation
of
10
new
positions
that
you
approved,
the
animal.
The
number
of
animals
housed
at
our
shelter
has
continued
to
rise.
Since
the
easing
of
covet
with
the
average
number
of
dogs
at
167
and
the
average
number
of
cats
had
129
per
month
since
January
of
23..
Now
our
shelter
is
only
Built
to
house
150
dogs
and
140
cats.
H
So
when
we
go
over
that
number,
sometimes
we
double
up
the
dogs
in
cages,
if
possible,
or
we
set
up
Portable
cages
in
the
hallways,
but
we
are
committed
to
you
know
taking
care
of
all
the
animals
that
come
to
us
and
not
euthanizing
any
animal
that
doesn't
meet
the
criteria
that
it
should
be
euthanized.
H
The
10
positions
that
were
created
has
proven
to
be
inadequate,
keeping
in
mind
that,
prior
to
saver
coming
in,
we
used
to
have
12
Oakland
County
prisoners
come
in
seven
days
a
week
and
they
worked
the
whole
day
to
clean
the
same
amount
of
cages
that
were
cleaning
now.
So
when
we
had
the
10
positions
that
were
created
in
April
keeping
in
mind
that
they
get
two
days
off,
just
like
all
the
Oakland
County
employees
and
they're
also
entitled
to
their
collective
bargaining
agreement
days
off.
H
The
the
positions
that
we're
asking
for
today,
an
additional
10
positions
will
ensure
the
health
and
the
well-being
of
both
the
staff
that
are
working
now
and
the
health
of
the
animals.
The
costs
and
positions
are
going
to
be
seven
hundred
and
six
thousand
and
twenty
four
dollars
for
the
fiscal
year
24
and
the
rescue
plan.
The
American
Rescue
plan
would
fund
that
for
fiscal
year
24
and
after
that
it
would
go
to
the
general
fund
out
of
the
10
positions
that
we're
asking
for
now.
Six
of
them
will
be
dedicated
to
cleaning.
H
Four
of
them
will
be
dedicated
to
the
front
desk
in
in
our
Endeavor
to
adopt
more
animals
since
covert
we've
only
opened
Monday
through
Friday
we're
open
to
the
public
from
10
a.m,
to
5
p.m.
We're
closed
on
the
weekends
if
we
get
if
you
approve
this
today,
we'll
have
four
additional
people
at
the
front
desk
that
we
will
work
different
hours,
they're
going
to
be
open.
H
Late,
two
nights
a
week,
Tuesdays
and
Thursdays
they'll
serve
the
public
until
7
30
at
night,
and
then
we're
going
to
be
open
on
Saturdays
to
serve
the
public
on
Saturday.
So
we
believe
that,
with
the
additional
six
cleaners
that
are
will
be
added
to
the
10
that
we
already
have,
we
will
never
have
less
than
11
people
working
and
we
believe
that
would
be
adequate
to
satisfy
the
needs
of
the
show.
G
Just
to
refresh
everyone's
memory,
a
few
years
ago,
I
sponsored
a
resolution
to
bring
in
an
unaffiliated
expert
to
do
an
assessment
of
the
shelter
to.
H
H
16
or
17.,
in
addition
to
what
we
had
at
the
time
right
at
the
time
we
had
saber
cleaning
right.
She
and
saber
had
10
people
every
day
cleaning.
She
should
she
suggested
that
we
had
six
more
people
just
to
the
cleaning
stand
right
then.
She
also
suggested
that
we
add
to
the
front
desk
staff,
adoption,
counselors
and
other
other
members
of
the
front
desk
staff.
That
would
help
with
the
Public's
need
with.
H
100
we've
already
talked
to
the
staff
in
in
Prelude
to
this.
If
it
goes
through,
we're
going
to
come
up
with
I
want
to
call
Dr
posano,
frankly
and
I'm,
going
to
get
her
recommendations
as
to
what
sort
of
training
should
to
be
needed,
but
we
our
front
desk
staff,
now
I,
don't
I
call
anybody
an
expert,
but
this
is
what
they
do
for
a
living
and,
and
they
are
experts.
We
have
two
members
of
the
dog
rescue
group
that
are
full-time
members
of
our
staff
now
and
they
work
seven
days
a
week.
H
Frankly,
you
know
they're,
if
they're
not
working
for
the
county,
they're
working
for
dog,
they
probably
forgot
more
about
dog,
rescues
and
and
dog
activities
than
than
most
of
us
would
ever
know.
G
And
I
actually
have
sat
at
the
front
desk
with
your
front
desk
staff,
so
I
know
what
kind
of
work
they
do
in
the
future.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
volunteers,
the
volunteers,
you
use
the
volunteer
agencies
that
want
to
be
involved
and
also
the
sustainability
of
these
positions.
So
it
is
my
understanding
that
you're
considering
raising
the
dog
license
fee.
G
Then,
when
you
get
around
to
another
idea
that
I
heard,
which
is
the
licensing
of
cats,
I,
would
like
to
be
involved
in
that
study,
because
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
have
to
pull
on
a
lot
of
communities
that
are
already
doing
something
like
that
to
see,
if
that's
something
that
Oakland
County
would
support,
but
but
I,
you
know,
I
I
appreciate
I've,
always
wanted
our
animal
shelter
to
be
a
state-of-the-art
shelter
and
to
stand
out
in
the
Tri-County
area.
If
not
the
state
so
I
appreciate
your
efforts
here.
Thank
you.
I
Have
a
couple
questions
about
the
money,
so
we
just
approved
a
short.
H
H
Ending
up
being
seven
of
six
I
think
it
was
a
little
higher
than
500
at
the
time.
But
since
then
the
contract
has
been
resolved
and
I
know
there
was
an
increase
in
salary
to
the
employees
that
would
retire
now.
I
I,
don't
have
the
exact
fears
in
front
of
me
what
it
was,
but
I
thought
it
was
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
were
paying
saved
and
we
were
paying
saver
500.
Something.
J
H
Know
what
we
do
with
our
second
trash,
so
I
just
wanted
arm
and
I
I
just
want
to
present
the
need
that
we
have
the
money.
We
would
leave
to
the
Commissioners
to
determine
how
how
it
would
come
to
be,
but
we
are
here
to
present
a
drastic
need
for
additional
Staffing.
You
know
I've
heard
Mr
prayer
say
that
it's
we
do
our
best
to
keep
it
clean.
Keep
in
mind
that
it's
the
law
too
I
mean
we
by
law.
We
have
to
clean
that
shelter.
H
We
have
10
Animal
Control
Officers,
one
of
them
which
are
here
that
go
out
through
the
community
and
and
we
arrest
people
who
don't
who
don't
take
care
of
their
animals.
We
can't
be
in
that
position
where
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
clean
the
shelter
and
we'd
be
violating
the
law.
So
I
will
leave
the
money
up
up
to
the
commission,
but
we
want
to
present
the
need
that
that
is
present.
I
I
Asking
for
money,
I'm
asking
questions
about
the
money,
that's
the
finance
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
role
so
to
reflecting
and
saying
you're
just
telling
us
the
story,
part
of
the
stories,
the
money,
which
is
why
it's
in
this
packet
that
you
sent
us
with
the
money.
It's
okay,
that
you
don't
have
the
answer,
but
I'd
like
the
answers.
The
finance
committee.
J
E
B
Jackson,
thank
you.
Could
you
please
refresh
us
as
far
as
like
how
things
transitioned
from
the
trustee
service?
Again
it
happened
at
the
onset
of
covid
and
and
how
come
it
hasn't
re-established
itself
in
that
place.
H
Sure,
but
from
what
I
know
for
as
long
as
the
shelter
was
opened
and
I,
don't
know
how
many
years
that
is,
probably
you
know,
50
years,
12
trustees
actually
was
13.
Trustees
from
the
shelter
would
come
to
the
from
the
jail
would
come
to
the
shelter
seven
days
a
week
and
they
would
claim
the
shelter
they
would
water
and
feed
the
dogs.
H
Do
the
dishes
do
the
laundry
they
would
move
the
dogs
they
became
so
engrossed
and
ingrained
in
their
jobs
that
many
of
them,
when
they
got
out
of
jail,
came
back
to
us
not
and
they
wanted
to
Workforce
or
they
wanted
to
adopt
certain
animals.
So
it
was
working
and
working
very,
very
well
and
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
costing
the
county
any
money
when
covet
hit.
H
I,
don't
know
what
day
it
was
was
in
the
middle
of
week
about
2
30
in
the
afternoon,
I
got
a
phone
call
from
the
sheriff
saying:
Bob
we're
pulling
the
prisoners
out
and
they're
not
coming
back
whoa.
You
know
that
left
us
an
alert
for
a
few
days,
the
stat
we
closed,
the
building
staff,
all
the
staff
pitched
in
and
cleaned
and
did
what
we
had
to
do,
but
we
knew
we
couldn't
sustain
that
so
working
with
Administration
saver
company
was
hired
now
shaver
company
cleans
the
the
county
and
they
do
a
great
job.
H
They
had
never
cleaned
an
animal
shelter
before
and
but
they
wanted
to
do
what
they
could
do
and
it
worked
in
the
beginning
when,
when
covet
hit
dogs
and
cats
were
flying
out
of
the
shelter
left
and
right
in
the
beginning
of
coven,
we
had
50
dogs
and
25
cats
in
the
building.
So
when
saber
showed
up
with,
you
know,
10
workers,
they
thought.
Oh,
this
is
going
to
be
simple.
This
is
going
to
be
easy,
and
indeed
it
was
for
a
period
of
time.
H
But
then,
as
covid
went
went
forward,
people
started
returning
their
animals
for
whatever
reason
that
they
had
and
the
shelter
began
to
really
fill
up
and,
as
I
said
in
January
of
23,
the
numbers
started
hitting
about
300
a
day
and
that's
more
than
our
shelter
is
really
even
capable
of
handling
much
less
our
bed
staff
and
and
the
front
desk
staff
and
everything
that
goes
with
taking
care
of
300
animals.
So
that's
that's
how
it
happened.
The
prisoners
were
there
and
then
one
day
they
left
and
they're
not
coming
back
now.
H
I'm
I'm,
not
in
that
field,
anymore,
I'm
sure
Barb,
can
be
much
more
of
an
expert,
but
I'm
told
that,
because
of
covet,
the
courts
have
changed
the
way
they
sentence
people,
whereas
they
would
sentence
low
level
misdemeanors
to
jail.
Then
they
would
be
the
trustees
that
would
come
to
the
shelter
nowadays.
The
people
in
the
jail
are
no
longer
trusty
type
prisoners
and
yeah.
C
Let
me
clarify
so
to
the
law
too:
there
was
Criminal,
Justice,
Reform,
and
so
several
misdemeanors
are
no
longer
eligible
for
jail
sentence.
The
individuals
that
are
coming
to
jail
now
are
much
more
serious
that
are
being
detained
and
are
sentenced
to
the
jail.
I've
talked
with
the
under
sheriff
on
several
occasions
about
this
and
even
asked
if
they
would
consider
changing
the
eligibility
criteria
for
the
trustees,
which
they've
already
done,
and
they
still
can't
fill
trusty
spots
to
do
the
things
they
need
to
have
done
at
the
jail.
C
The
trustees
often
did
the
laundry
and
kitchen
service
and
they
don't
even
have
enough
trustees
to
fill
that,
and
he
said
if
we
ever
get
back
to
a
time
when
we
had
additional
trustees,
we
would
be
happy
to
send
them,
but
we've
been
waiting
for
three
years
and
it
hasn't
happened,
and
so
we
we
need
to
do
something.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
obviously
see
the
need
and
I
know
with
the
covet.
Everybody
was
getting
a
dog
and
a
cat
now
everybody's
back
to
work,
and
what
do
we
do
with
all
of
them?
So,
just
as
your
numbers
have
fluctuated
with
the
animals,
your
employment
I
see
obviously
increasing.
Do
you
foresee
if
the
numbers
fluctuate
back,
that
they
kind
of
normal
out
to
what
it
was
pre-covered
that
you
would
still
need
all
of
these
employees
I.
H
Don't
have
a
crystal
ball:
I,
don't
see
any
trend
of
it
diminishing,
but
I
will
go
back
to
say
that,
for
for
as
long
as
the
shelter
is
open,
we
had
12
or
13
prisoners
cleaning
the
shelter,
that's
the
number
we
need
I
I
can
do
the
math
for
you.
It
takes
about
15
minutes
to
clean
a
cage,
and
if
you
take
15
minutes
times
300
or
this
morning
we
had
280
animals
in
the
building.
You
can
see
how
many
minutes
it
takes
and
to
buy
that
by
the
number
of
people
working.
H
You
can
see
that
our
minutes
that
we
are
required
don't
meet
the
minutes
that
we
have
with
the
people,
so
I
I
think
we're
going
to
need
11
or
12
people
to
clean
that
shelter,
regardless
of
anything
we'll.
Never
I,
don't
believe,
we'll,
never
see
a
time
when
we're
down
to
you
know
fifty
dollars
again.
A
Okay,
so
with
this
new
contract,
you'll
have
13
people
cleaning
them.
E
You
thank
you.
I
I,
do
see
the
need
for
additional
Personnel
at
the
animal
shelter,
and
your
reasons
are
very
valid.
My
comment
is
not
specifically
to
the
animals.
It
is
to
the
finances,
which
is
something
you're
not
involved
in
in
our
school
mental
health
ad
hoc
committee.
We
had
additional
our
post
arpa
money
that
we
designated
to
youth
assistants,
staff
and
juvenile
probation
officers.
We
were
advised
we
could
not
use
the
arpa
money
for
personnel.
E
I
thought
it
would
be
considered
like
a
grant
for
two
years
and
then
after
that
be
self-sufficient
or
hire
people
for
specifically
two
years
at
a
time.
So
I
really
want
to
put
that
on
record.
That
I
am
in
favor
of
this
I
will
be
voting
yes
on,
on
the
other
hand,
for
our
youth
assistance
staff
and
juvenile
probation
staff
that
we
weren't
able
to
move
forward
with
that,
because
we
used
arpa
money.
A
I
Commissioner,
Cavell
thanks
what
you
said:
chair
resonates
with
me
too,
because
not
just
the
money
side,
but
I.
Think
from
what
Barbara
and
commissioner
Jackson
were
talking
about,
aren't
weak
and
maybe
some
more
for
you.
But
aren't
we
going
to
be
seeing
a
lot
more
of
these
types
of
things
over
the
next
couple
years
with
criminal
justice
reforms
that
then
make
it
so
that
we're
not
paying
inmates
20
cents
an
hour
to
do
work
that
is
worthy
of
38?
I
That
thousand
dollars
a
year
of
close
benefits,
because
that's
what
we'd
be
paying
these
folks
to
clean
the
shelter,
the
animal
shelter
and
what
we've
been
doing
is
kind
of
living
off
of
other
people's
work
and
giving
them
a
pittance
for
it
in
an
unfair
and
unjust
way.
But
now
we're
just
writing
that
ship.
That's
part
of
what
this
is
and
we'll
see
more
of
that
like
from
laundry
and
kitchen.
All
these
other
things.
I
C
Time,
the
county
we
got
away
with
using
the
trustees
and
we
didn't
pay
them
anything
they
get
time
off,
of
their
sentence
for
being
a
trustee
and
and
now
that's
no
longer
the
case,
and-
and
so
here
we
are.
Thank
you.
B
E
K
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
having
me,
as
you
said,
I'm
here,
to
present
the
interlocal
agreement
between
Oakland
County
and
the
Waterford
School
District.
So
we
have
had
a
long-standing
history
with
Waterford
schools.
They
have
provided
educational
instruction
for
the
kids
in
all
areas
of
our
campus
for
many
many
years.
That
does
a
number
of
things.
It
keeps
us
compliant
with
our
licensing
standards.
It
meets
requirements
of
mde
but
I
think,
most
importantly,
it
provides
them
with
a
quality
education.
K
So
the
current
agreement
has
expired,
and
so
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
for
for
a
new
agreement
that
will
take
us
through
the
next
five
years.
The
budget
for
the
2023
school
year
includes
an
increase
in
state
aid
of
458
dollars
per
student,
so
that
takes
us
to
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
eight
dollars
per
student.
The
projected
cost
to
the
county
is
a
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
dollars
I'm
sorry
182
222
dollars.
K
It's
important
to
note,
though,
that
that
amount
is
50
reimbursable
by
the
child
care
fund,
so
we're
actually
only
paying
half
of
that
for
the
2024-2025
school
year.
The
projected
cost
is
217
119.
Also
reimbursable,
fifty
percent
by
the
child
care
fund
so
again,
I'm
here
today
to
ask
you
to
approve
another
five-year
agreement.
E
I
Okay,
is
this
the
the
9608,
that's
the
new?
Yes,.
K
I
K
So
the
if
I
understand
the
question
correctly,
the
amount
is
projected
because
at
the
end
of
the
school
year
they
take
a
look
at
student
counts.
They
confirm
the
student
counts
and
then
they
take
a
look
at
all
of
the
funding
that
they
received.
That
could
include
Title
One
funds,
it
could
include
special
education
funding
and
they
tally
up
all
the
numbers
and
we
get
the
reconciliation
at
the
end.
That
will
tell
us
exactly
how
much
we
owe.
C
This
is
a
projected
budget
because
we
don't
know-
and
it's
it's
projected
at
52
students
of
course,
prior
to
coping.
We
had
a
lot
more
than
that
and
since
coven,
we
we
have
less
than
we
hope
to
really
is
our
goal
to
have
less
and
less
so,
but
we
won't
really
know
the
actual
cost
until
we
get
those
actual.
You
know,
numbers
okay,.
I
Maybe
this
also
is
for
finance,
then,
but
I'm
saying
like,
for
example,
if
you
live
in
Ferndale,
you
pay
certain
taxes
to
make
sure
to
make
sure
that
your
school
district
gets
more
money
right,
because
the
school
district
of
Ferndale
chose
to
raise
Mills
to
do
that.
If
they
did,
that
in
Waterford,
are
the
kids
at
Children's
Village
getting
that
extra
money
in
their
publication?
Or
is
it
just
the
state
minimum.
C
C
Which
is
particularly
for
kids
that
are
in
institutions,
and
so
we
get
a
chunk
of
money
there.
There
are
other
monies
like
for
special
ed
projected
number
of
special
ed.
K
C
That
we
might
have
at
the
village
that
they
draw
down
and
there
there
are
some.
There
is
some
other
money,
but
there's
really
a
school,
a
Waterford
School
Board
decision
where
that
money
gets
placed
and
if
they
choose
not
to
allocate
any
of
it
to
Children's
Village,
then
it
would
stay
with
just
the
what
Waterford,
School
District
proper
okay.