Open Source Ecology construction 2011 part 2, 28 Sep 2011

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From YouTube: Excavation workflow and ergonomics

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Costs of equipment, hp, weight, time, soil logistics

A

So uh you're gonna do this with a bobcat and you're gonna, just shove. It like inside there or I'll take a lot.

B

Of it right down there before that, drops off right, there.

A

Okay, so you're gonna just keep going back forth with the with the bobcat. You don't want to use like a you can't do it with the bulldozer right. I don't know and you're just going to keep going back and forth and not load a trailer right.

B

Ain't got enough room.

A

So, are you taking like? Is this taking much more time than you're thinking? Oh yeah, quite a.

B

A

Okay, what do you think like? uh What do you think the total number of hours is going to be the total cost.

B

Okay, I got eight hours on yesterday.

A

Eight hours time is 120. yeah.

B

Yeah I'm charging for that one there. I didn't have 130s on that on the dozer, but I I didn't run that very well.

A

How do you, how do you count it, so you count by the hours that you use the use the dozer, and how do you count the rest of your time.

B

I can't with that one there that's the cheapest one say what that's the cheapest one. I count the hours on that. Okay, that one there.

A

How do you count like, for example, yesterday, eight hours, you count eight hours at what 120 or yeah, and some of that is dozer. Some of that is other stuff.

B

Okay, I still gotta pay him out that deal too. You know.

A

And how much is this per hour here, 120. 120 per hour? Okay now, is that, like the whole, is that the whole cost? You count like four hours that you're here like for the you three people here or.

B

No 120 there and I'm gonna charge you probably fifteen twenty bucks an hour, yeah okay. He had eight hours yesterday, okay, so you got that and I don't know how many hours we got today we started, but john. We were back here.

B

A

B

Do anything that's.

A

B

If this pad would have been up in the air instead of cut down like this all the way around, where you got room to work, something you know.

A

B

About flying fast.

A

If what if, if.

B

You had was up in the air normal normal building. Pads are up.

A

B

Everything else you know, they're not usually cut down like that.

A

So the cutting down is takes longer yeah, yeah.

B

Because you gotta work all me inside and it screws up your grade. You know.

A

I mean, as far as build so you're saying it's easier to build up a pad than than to dig down.

B

Oh yeah yeah, because all finish grade is is cut grade, not feel great field grade is hard to do and when you cut this here you got to mess with it. You got to use the it for the fill. They just don't work very good, whereas uh if you've got a fill, you just fill it all up and you slice it off, and it's done it's really easy.

B

Oh yeah! It's a lot easier.

A

So so today we got a what we got 130 for that per hour, 15 for him. How about you you taking.

B

The cut, no! That's that I'm on the machine.

A

A

Yeah, okay and then um so tomorrow, gravel.

A

That's the plan. You got that covered.

B

That's why I won't get all these done tonight. Yeah.

A

And we're not gonna go with those until later, so we'll do that as a separate, separate one right like after this is done as.

B

Soon, as he can get up there.

A

Yeah, um did you look at how he the access there.

B

Yeah you can't we're gonna put something in a ditch down there, we'll.

A

B

And just doze it over there and pour it in the ditch good.

B

I have to take it back out. The county won't like it very good to leave it in there.

A

Just goes right through it and it'll be a depression. That's fine! Yeah.

B

Well, the only thing is you cut through there, you're gonna hit that phone line. I don't know where it's at.

A

No, but I mean there like.

B

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B

Enough pipe to leave in there.

A

B

And you really should ought to get a hold of your road district and get a permit to do it. You know, I don't think it costs nothing, but you ought to at least.

B

When ask talked to them about blue line, and we said we weren't going to.