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Welcome everybody, some recording, welcome to Monday April 24 meeting, so we do have a good agenda. Let me link that into the chat box, so you can get in there and follow along with the meeting so for new people. Welcome. First of all, the first thing is welcome to new people.

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Now, let's talk about that the agenda, so so what we as far as the new people as far as the gender goes, we have a kite program for what we're talking about a couple of things. Before we start.

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Let me enlarge this every week we collaborate and try to find ways to make the collaboration process better and more seamless part of that is tracking what you do, because if you can measure it, you can improve it. So two things that we do for the meeting for the new people, one before you so before you go to the meeting, do the timesheet the hours that you've worked the last week and second, as you finish up each week, we have a section here: the daily stand-up, the scrum stand up.

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So what you see here within the within the agenda? On page, sorry, let me let me actually share my screen here, since you guys are not seeing what I'm talking about ok screen shared on the agenda. hmm 20 min a item number five team member progress update, scrum stand up. That means we all like every week. We summarize what we have done, for example myself. This is what I've done last week. Everyone has a minute to do that so good format, for that would be to definitely put in the work work that you have done.

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Also I think it's a nice thing to may be summarized just for your own processing and thinking the learnings, and maybe you can also write down what you want to learn and then, of course, your work product links. The learnings is a nice thing like, for example, it makes you reflect on what you've done, like, for example, I learned to flash a bootloader on to Arduino.

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If that means anything to anybody, Kira extrusion parameters, I learned about that I- also learned that we can use loathes about QR app, which is this nice software for two adapted completely 2d 3d, so a little bit of learnings. But you can share that feel free to share that time sheet. If you haven't, while okay, so as we're starting here, whoever hasn't done their scrum stand up.

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Please do that right now, so we have it by the end of the meeting so that as we're going along here, we can orient everybody where everybody is because it's all about people building upon each other's work and doing that effectively. So timesheet and the scrum stand up. Please do it also just like the the technical checkpoints for for every week or so development team checkpoints, I figure, let's see development team checklist.

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If you go to that a couple couple of items.

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As people are going to be joining the team, there's going to be people in different phases of development, but but the things that we have to have like one one thing is the Aussie development page your profile. So we have a list of the team members just to go to that. Oh, let's see developers down at the bottom here on the OSD developers page we have osc developer bios. I believe six are still missing, so please fill it out.

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So we get a few people on a development team, but only for there's, six more that are outstanding. Ok hours logged on timesheet, all CAD files uploaded to your log, is that so or documents in progress link to your log and then scrum stand up page added to the meeting log. So look at this, this development team checklist before every meeting and what I'm going to do here is checklist I'm, not going to actually add that at the very top of the document, so that everyone looking at this prepared document, you can find the checklist.

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Now. You might have questions right here. So we have a questions page within this document. As well, please use that to write your questions that you have like, for example, right now, I think one question for a lot of you might be hey. Where is this document? Where do we find this development team working doc? Well, every time it's on the osc?

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Sorry, the d3d Log page. That's the meeting log! That's for the development team, since working on d3, d2, 3d printer right now. So, for example, if we click on Monday April 24, this document is here. So you know that d3d meeting log is where we find this all the time. So we have, for example, Monday April 24. That's the working document we're talking about right now, okay, so that's orientation for how the team goes. Definitely the questions. Do this scrum stand up, so we can coordinate more effectively.

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That's a short time like one minute is a very short time and that's about it. Okay, so team number, as well as far as new people joining the team, welcome to we've got it several new people. I know we have Michael joining us for the first time. I don't know if Frank is joining us this time he was kind of busy, but he did make the team I don't see a manatee on here and Gregory. Welcome. Oh so two active developers joining this week. That's really good!

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You can see our team numbers here in the graph, so we're going up moving up slowly, but surely here and there's a little dip here. If you look at this.

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For today- and that is because people haven't blogged, so please log your time. I know: there's been more people that haven't logged their hours, but you see the good progress. This is. This is three months time record. Basically, since februari and emmanuel, the first person on a team were growing, I mean it's through three months. Now, it's towards it, so its library, March April, towards the end of April, we're about 10 weeks into the program. We've got about 11 or 12 people. So our record for right now is one new person per week.

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We can do better than that. Okay, no I I definitely want to keep keep that number growing. We kind of tentatively said that once we get our HR operations in good standing, then every recruiter, so we have Richard right now working with us, but we should be getting to new people per week, assuming that we go through about like say five or ten interviews per week and accepting about twenty-five percent of the people that we interview so tell your friends. Ok, so I'm! Overdoing my item number one here.

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So item number two: the product release schedule. So, as far as the greater picture of what we're doing so right now we're pretty good on a 3d printer. So this is the mini d3d mini so so this weekend, April 29 is our first 3d printer workshop will, which will be a regular offering from now on, till post-scarcity is reached. In other words, that's going to be a regular cash flow operation for us, something that we earn revenue on a regular basis. Because till now we are revenues pretty much a regular like.

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We have these big workshops here and there, but in order to plan effectively, you have to plan on a regular cash flow. So that's part of the strategy as far as the organization goes and hoping that people replicate. So that's that the status for this week we know we have a couple of people coming. We have Gregory coming to the workshop.

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Who else thinks someone else from the team is coming to the workshop as well? I forget who that is, but we definitely encourage people to come to the workshop and actually, as developers I mean what I can what I can offer? You is free admission. You would have to just pretty much pay for the materials from now on, like for people who have been on the development team for the whole development cycle, so say you know.

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Next time we were developed one of the next product to say this CNC torch table for people who have been on that process through the development period of the three months. They're definitely welcome to come to the workshop for free.

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If they want to build the machine, they would pay for the materials, but basically, if you've been involved in doing this work, you should definitely come to the eventually come to the workshop for free for the future events, because you kind of earned you're paid your dues and help the project lot, and it's really good to see the thing actually being made. Okay product release schedule.

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So this time it's the 3d printer as far as the general schedule for the next release, so the release is April 29, the 3d printer July is the CNC torch table, so we're looking really at three months of development cycles, which means a few prototypes by that time. You know at least some significant prototyping and using that machine, an October will be the Eco tractor.

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So that's something that's very attractive for a lot of people, a small tractor 18 horsepower that has a gasifier and a solar power cube and it's remote control and it's got GPS. So this is very, very exciting and we're building a team for that. So it's something we can get a lot of energy around.

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A lot of people are interested in this and this eco tractor, an idea is we're going down from 27 horsepower to 18 horsepower as our standard for the power cube for now, because the costs involved in a replicability talking about strategy, 18 horsepower the power cube their costs three times less than a 27 horsepower power, cube I, mean believe, get a load of that. So that's why we're shifting down its lower cost and much more manageable for people like a small 18 horsepower tractor is much more manageable as a small garden tractor.

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Is it of the more full-size tractor? Well, that's a very exciting project. We're looking forward to what we mean by release. So, first of all, we got to have the product like right now we're doing the full CAD and I'm testing the product, building it testing, but for full release. What I mean also is that we also have a workshop model that works. We know that we can market it and get people to show up and build like a dozen machines like for the 3d printer. We even we know we can do that.

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We know that the workshop model works either. People show up to just have the experience or show up to make the product for the release. We also want a construction set set book. So the next thing, some of the next things on the 3d printer, is to document. How do you design a 3d printer like this, because now you can with the parts that we made we're testing that you can build any size, shape machine?

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We have to document that to make it very easy for people, including a CAD workbench within plus I, mean I, could say for the fruit for the construction set book and ebook plus freecad dedicated workbench for making that happen. Free cat is very robust and flexible. We can do at the very minimum. Do a drag-and-drop design platform within free cat, where you drag it and drop all the parts to make, make the 3d printer, for example.

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But we should be thinking about that for every machine right. So so, in addition to the simple drag-and-drop functionality, you can have some special features like like little design, clues or other assisting features within freaked out that lets you design something very easily so and then Enterprise website so forever or whatever. We do.

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I like, for example, with a 3d printer I want to start a website, for example, d3d, open source, ecology, org or 3d print 3d, peed on open source, ecology, org, a wordpress site where we, where we do the workshops, the testimonials learning material. The construction said all the downloads, some swag product sales and everything else, and we should be doing that for for all the products and the website, of course, will be open source. So people can replicate all the different modules from it and I part of the distributive enterprise.

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So that's basically it, but for next time around the next workshop june, I am planning on doing the six six foot tall, 3d printer, which is essentially two of the 16 inch d3d stacked vertically connected using even angle, irons with magnets. That would actually work, but talking about scaling to now just much much greater size, which includes developing an open source, larger, separate, generalized controller instead of the tiny little ramps that we're using more a more generalized version so and then top of the 3d printer is the print cluster.

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So how do we actually run effectively? You know like six or twelve or, however many you like 3d printers. At the same time, now that's much bigger than just running one printer. It means you have to have the network software either like USB cables or ethernet, but getting towards like real part production that people can replicate and actually have that running. Twenty-Four seven I want to play. I'm planning on building is pretty much like right in my house.

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Here have a room dedicated to 3d printers going 24seven either make parts for the next workshop or for other products that we make and add to our basically the enterprise website, so constant product development on that okay, now filament extruder. Yes, that still stands well. I I mentioned here bc, n3d the open source, 3d print and robotic arm, because you could use that for for automatic part harvesting which it that requires some techniques that would be developed along with the print cluster filament extruder, the open-source lyman extruder. That still stands.

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So so I want to get some people going on that. So this week we can focus on the finishing of the instructionals 4d 3d. But right after that, we can start work on the filament extruder, meaning you take scrap plastic and we extrude it back into your 3d printing filament. If you click on those, if you actually go into view instead of the view here being added view, if you go in the present view, you can actually play these.

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These are videos here, ok, so 1115 I'm, going to move right along in that schedule here, I'm a little behind review of last week so quickly. Last week we were all doing instructionals using exploded, part animations within freecad, which is relatively easy to learn, but it's rather hard to do the voiceover and the very correct sequence.

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So we have the video scripts for the what exactly each instructional entails, and that's that's pretty much all that we were doing last week and I was prototyping here as far as the build of the d3d mini and so forth celebration. Let's celebrate what happened so far, so I think it's it's pretty remarkable that. Lastly, for example, you know, for example, Roberto I mean it was pretty cool to see the first explode part animation, fully. Voiceover very well done so it's good! It's it's!

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This collaborative technique works so I'd like to commend all of us that we are getting these rather complex processes happening in a in a pretty manageable way and we're scaling the team. So the numbers grow we'll see how scalable that is in practice, but that means we get. We have to get very strict on that. All of us are following the checklist of us uploading everything and collaborating effectively so with along with the celebration is one one thing I want to point out like, for example, I.

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Don't want to put Jose on a spot here, but, for example, one case study of how this works. Frank was looking for making the second part of the frame. Instructional Jose I couldn't find his the required parts on his log, so that was a bottleneck.

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So that's that's an example of work where we absolutely have to upload everything before you know get in the habit of it, because, especially when it's not finished- and that applies to the files and working documents like Google Docs, just link among your log, don't just appear with it on monday's meeting and just say: here's all I have try to try to see if he can upload it. The first thing: what idea is as we get more and more people, it's going to be tag team. One person finishes something the next person.

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Is it for their thing or can start something else. So that's why it's? It's critical that we do that, but anyway I think this is going really well so far, I mean with with what we're doing. Several people now have produced the exploded, part animations, which is contributing significant amounts of work to the project. So that's really good. So I'd like to celebrate with that and leave it at that as I think job.

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Well done so far, we can see that definitely it works to collaborate with the open source, free cad in terms of uploading and downloading the file seamlessly. You know someone uploads the file, another person downloads and you can play the animation right there. It's great. I love it and then the same has to happen with as we explore collaborative video editing, meaning that if you upload the kdenlive file and an a you tube and a source video to youtube, somebody else can completely take over your video editing.

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So say you got somewhere to you know you know, sale, ash logo he's so far on the on the axis assembly.

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Well, if we need to make a correction if he uploads the source code, meaning the free cat file, the YouTube video and what else kayden file free cat, video and no sorry free, Cadfael, kdenlive source and a Youtube upload, those three things mainly and then the next person can download those three and edit under desk up so I think that can be really really nice for future work, because video is the most effective form of communication, so I'm, proud of how we're we're, starting to master the video and I think if we can really focus on that I mean that's just great marketing, it's great education, it's real collaborative development, so I like it.

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Ok, so ten minutes on progress update so I'd like to get everybody piping. In now you see I'm looking at the screen here, there's a bunch of empty pages for the scrum stand-ups. But let's go with what we have, whoever hasn't done a please fill it in, so that we can get oriented really quickly. Otherwise we're going to just call on you right now, so so for me, real quick one minute, half a minute! This is what's where the d3d many is right. Now it's built just needs the electronics connected to it.

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So this is this is pretty good and I like it, I mean it's got full five by five by five print bed area and I want to learn how to build a filament extruder next week. That's what I want to learn, and then this is my product. So next person's Jose Jose are you here.

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Yeah, so so here we have arm.

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Yeah Jose did quite a bit of work, extruder holder for the extruder, so that means we can put on any extruder honor on our carriage, like with d3d here we're using this very simple extruder, but we can also use any other one and I was starting to look at the volcano, so called volcano nozzle, which is a 1.2 millimeter aperture, as opposed to this one right now is point for now with three times as big aperture, that's nine times the printing rate. It goes as squared. So we can talk about the larger printers.

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That's good Universal, holder trend of eyeing the 12 inch version. Okay, so we don't have eight by eight by eight inch on that we're going to work on that more it's doable. We just got to reconfigure. Some of the cars spoke for a frame model, including magnets and angles. That's good! Can click on that um yeah I mean so, for example, with the link you can click on it download I already. Actually I don't.

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I don't think I have downloaded that one yeah no I didn't because it was just downloaded uploaded today, so here I'm gonna just open this in mind, as we speak here just to show you how this workflow works, you download it and you open it up on your desktop.

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Now, I'm going to double click on it and showing.

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See you again they're.

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Not showing what you are talking about, Molly well,.

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No I min presentation, you might might be bandwidth issues no I'm showing I appear to be showing my screen. I, think I think we're okay, it might possibly might be or your bandwidth well, you might have to change the setting on top but I'm trying to open up the freaking file. Let's see if it allows me to yeah it's doing it slowly. Vibe dab the video recording going on so too many things at one time. That's pretty good. Instructional heading in kdenlive water should be improved.

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So if we well actually what we can do here, you know, let's, if I go into view present mode, we should be able to play that right here. So let's try it just to show how it works. So, in kind of real time we can pretty much get this going. So, let's see that's the frame one to one minute, 27, so whoa.

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We need to improve the sound yeah. Look at that. That's awesome.

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Derry might have to change the perspective because it looked like the same piece.

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Keep going here, oops! Let me let me play know that this is really cool I'm. Looking at it, that's exactly right! That's how you do it! Okay, let's just continue. Looking at this real, quick, yeah, you're sounding you definitely have to improve it, but that can be worked on definitely.

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um So a good thing that works is a smart phone.

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Know this is pretty good. Look at that I like that detail, jb weld, oh.

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Look at that little highlight.

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How'd you do that Justin um just didn't.

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Okay, very nice, no that's pretty good I mean that pretty much I can play that for one and a half minutes and instead of having spending that time explaining I mean this is this is really good. I mean I can definitely use that within the workshop and then, of course we can improve the sound a little bit. But you know it's it's kind of tricky in the workshop you think like.

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Oh, this is so easy, no problem, but if you have video documentation like that, well for one I'm going to send that to everybody before the workshop, then people can review it and and what I'm planning is actually handing out USBS with all the videos on them, so that people have their computer and I'm going to just can watch it and the workflow. What I'd like to do this time and I mentioned that already? We all swarm it and work together.

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So we don't move on to the next step until everybody is done, because we found that in the last workshop there were stragglers and then it took a really long time at the end to catch everybody up, because those people have to finish. They want to take a working 3d printer home. So so it's definitely more effective. To have have everybody go at the same time, because as soon as person is done like they would be sitting around, they could be helping somebody else, and so that really taps the collaborative energy.

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Ok, I love it thanks. We got last low here so I'm going to shift that up here. Move it right up here: yeah wife isn't who you assembly almost ready scripts. First part: um okay. Let's take a take a look at that on youtube and then orthographic view instead of perspective. Yeah make sure you use perspective view. It looks real orthographic looks like like a child drew it, but it's actually orthographic is better for manipulating, but perspective. Looks real, like orthographic looks really bad yeah precut, Python basic camera view point setting with button whoa.

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You did some free card python. Oh, that's sounds pretty advanced I've, never done it. So, let's take a look at your video.

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Sound is a little low.

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Yeah well very good. I mean that's very accurate, there's more work because that that module has more work, so maybe we can help out but yeah. No, that's very good I, like it. Okay, other people.

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Let's quit that! Okay and that's! You should know that Cedric you want to fill us in. Let I me not! We got to go through everybody to see where everybody's at yes.

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Go ahead, yeah.

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Yes, I have finished the last week. I finished the expulsion for mounting 2x widow with the slides. So this week, I.

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To do it with video, I finished it, but I I I have, but I'm still until now I have a video of one minute. 30.

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I untied I am I, don't know, I am trying to cut it in your.

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According to to to to do you trip put it, there is one thing that I want to be sure with it. Yeah did.

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Say that you in the.

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Instructions for doing the video I saw that the patch should be 50. Second yeah yeah.

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I mean you should get it as close to that as possible. So that means the main point. There is eliminate all dead space is the idea yeah, um yes, yeah, so that should that should be doable because.

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I am saying that.

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So if I see that, if I see that it is too long, I record it yeah mini.

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Of your 15 seconds, yeah.

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Yeah yeah I mean the idea is, do the best. You can I mean that's. You know you have to practice your voice and redo it many times when I read it and just without any space. That's how long it took me. That's why I put that time there. What idea is for everybody like we've, got slide number three.

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The definition of done here is that you have up to so. First is you know we wrote the script. We did the explosions in free cat than we did the videos, and the final thing is that you upload all the source code to the two-year wiki.

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So if you you know whatever you end up with, if all your source code, if the kdenlive file the Freak add file and the video source, is there on YouTube, meaning the download like before you edit it just the stuff you started working with as one file, then we can make improvements to it. So so that's the whole beauty I mean we haven't really tag team on the videos yet I mean we've still got to do that, but I want to make sure we're setting ourselves up for that as a possibility.

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So that's very important for everybody on this. This meeting here and yeah so continue on that. Let's see like, for example, if you look at sedgwick like did you upload those files, for example, or the.

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You didn't people.

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Know you gotta do the.

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So so yeah, if you do, that, we can help you, that's the idea like, for example, we have a bunch of you know, say we have developed our documentation. Team I mean in the future. We probably will have people who are maybe like focusing on videos or other documentation or publishing the book and stuff like that, so we're building a team. The point is: if you haven't uploaded, then someone can take it and just work on it.

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In fact, a good way to involve you know how we have the development team right now, but a way to tag team even better, is to have ad hoc developers, because a lot of people can't commit the 10 hours per week. But we, if we document and have those files like everything, that's ready to be worked on and everybody's logged, and we can actually send people to do little ad hoc tasks like okay, we've got this video at the state.

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We need to cut it down by 20 seconds to make it you know, take out all the dead space. Well, that'll be a great task for somebody who is on an ad hoc team because there's a lot of people that want to work with us, but right now like we, don't have the energy to just manage. Everybody like I want to work with you guys closely because you're putting it all this time so but as we grow, we're going to have all these other energies they're contributing.

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So that's why I just want to emphasize the concept of uploading and everything else, so I think: okay, that's good enough for now. Let's, let's move on to the next person, I have a question on this one, though. Why is it that when I downloaded this and I go to so this is jose right?

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Why is it that if I go to exploded assembly and I press on a play- nothing happens.

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I'm trying to press play here.

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Look at the world exploring a dump stop properly, but I, just eh for for the video okay.

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So that doesn't have it.

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So this this one is not the file, that's not animated. It's.

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Not an amazing because I solve the animation just before the video but I.

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What it also asked to manipulate the file right, yeah.

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To be done, I wrote it down in my lover, yeah.

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Yeah, no, that's right. I think, as as this thing is playing I mean the very nice thing about freak out here. Is you can switch things? Are you can zoom in while it's playing you can even like hidin? You know as it's playing you can hide and unhide things. You know like you'll say it's playing. You can be doing a lot of things like hiding things done, hiding things you know, so you can get very crowded. How.

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Yeah, no, that's good! That's that's very good! So yeah, let's keep going here so other people. So before we start getting into task division, let's hear more from other people, so we got Cedric. Emmanuel he's good.

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The sensor, the sensor yeah right.

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Sudah and easy bill Venice, so it is the same extreme say so: oh yeah.

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It should be the same part is the.

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Right, that's the exam.

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Aleksa diamond use I modified.

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The holder, the sense of order, because right.

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Adapted to the right.

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No, that's right. That's it's the same one! So we're we're going to move to another extruder pretty soon from the very simple one. So we can print all kinds of materials like poly carbonate and rubber and everything else. A current, very simple extruder that, like the version one here and this one is very simple: mka that can pretty much do Polycarp, nuttin, sorry, PLA and abs. We can't do other other stuff, so yeah, but the same sense actually don't show the sensor here.

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The sensors not mounted the sensor is going to be the same for this version and the next version and the holder is going to be the same. That's a good thing! We just replace this extruder part here but see. This is what your kind of stuff you're asking right now I mean that's the perfect kind of stuff I forgot to mention: we've got the 3d printer network that opens. Oh sorry. I got to go back there network that opens open source, ecology, org.

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That's the kind of questions you want to be asking at the network, for example. So so we can cover all that kind of stuff haven't seen you there much, but he had 3d printer development that network that open source ecology, org whoever's new, please get in there and use that as a regular place to to post. So yeah I see some new posts here, but all the development questions and everything else we can ask there and then everybody else can help so that the meetings were pretty much going through.

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Ok, here's our scrum stand up and then we're doling out tasks, and we can communicate throughout the week on on the network there and then possibly set up some other meetings where we have some specific training meetings set up throughout the week as well and I. Forget that's why I wanted to start to Richard about yeah like getting some people that can help us on some of the technical issues, getting them to do little presentations during the meeting or doing other sessions outside of the meaning but anyway.

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So, let's, let's keep moving since we got a bunch more people. So next person who wants to report next to my thing here.

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To be a little locked up here, who wants to speak next I'm going to close down some of these windows.

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So that's a 3d printer, yes,.

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Speak up go ahead. Blue yep go ahead. Chance, go ahead.

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Chance can you hear us go ahead.

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Okay, so I have been working on the Assembly of the universal access motor yeah. I was a bit stuck in the hall on the animation part, so I'm gonna, like a few questions on that I've been busy.

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My final exams, which I passed so no variety, might it be soon all.

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As far as a animation part, I look back in my freakin example. um I just need to like get more familiarize with, like the he's. An agenda exploded, assembly interface, I'm, just not able to figure it out so far haven't had the time yet, but I should.

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Time in this week that I'm dental exams, okay,.

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That sounds good tomato.

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So I'm gonna post a few questions like after this mean yeah.

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Like and click on, like four examples are tutorials like them. What tutorials are able to dump people used to keep em casa, nada right.

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In a meeting like the only thing that I showed with some links from the I think you should probably review the meeting agenda for where we start working on it, because I think we went there were some links to different different tutorials there. So I think you should take a look at that. Look at the past meetings, which are all recorded on a d3d meet meeting blog or d3d Log page. So all can I think that we stood yeah.

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That's when we started on that, and there should be some notes in there regarding how to do that. But yeah I think that the good thing is like Cedric, for example, Chaz anybody do the 3d printer development group feel free to use that I've. Put all your questions there I look at that all the time, so that and besides you want to leave a paper trail for in the future people learning about the same issues. So please do that.

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Okay, next person that sound good good enough Chazz yeah next person so drunk that piece, maybe I.

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Think you're the last one left JB. Can you speak trouble with the mic? Ok, uh you want to report on. Let's see, what do you got to report on here? Let's say is Roberto.

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Yeah goong-bok your page there, if you want to put in your stuff on the on the page, please report on it, update disassembly animation, video yeah, ok, good, stuff Roberto, you want to just pipe in real quick. Let's see, I want to link click on your. Let me share the screen again here. I want to see the so you've got something going on here, so freaked at file and just take a look at that. The heated bed, let's take a look at what the heated bed is doing.

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You want to tell us about it.

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I'm opening it up right now, so I want to see more what it looks like.

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Yeah Roberto, we can't hear you if you're speaking.

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Okay, um let's see, let's see what we got here, let's see if that works here. Look at that all right! So that's what I downloaded what's going on here! That was the heated bed. Oh, let's see! huh Oh ok, ok, that is the first part of the heated met. I thought it was part of the axis, but that's how the heated but looks like without the platform. That's the thing that supports the the heat is bad. So actually you rotate this like that.

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The heated bed sits on this sorry I didn't recognize that, but yeah, that's pretty good and the cool thing is. I can play that here and it it works. Yeah, yeah, so yea once again, very simple!

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So maybe do you want to go through the questions right now or maybe like? I would suggest you just post it on the ose network. Can you do that? Ok, let's do that. So we move on right to this, because I want to go and organize everybody around what's happening here with the overall slide number three, so phones to go there, but as far as anyone else here, we've got.

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Let's see Richard left here, Gregory's new to us I think pretty much everyone else, one Gregory. So how are you doing there? Can you hear us and any thoughts right now, anything to add in we're going to start ups yeah.

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Oh nice, to meet everyone true.

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Here, in Austin background is more software development side, but.

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More into the open source hardware, rail yeah.

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Also, really interested in how the organization has evolved, at which time so, probably one of the things well able to contribute that I've background with Python yeah, so I'll be looking for closely at what we can do with free cat with that beats. The puddle yeah.

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Yeah Gregory, thank you for the Python work. I mean one thing we might want to start talking about and we'll see, I think for now. If we can direct you straight to the animations, because there's a bunch of different modules still left I mean I. Think we can do that. But, as I talked about the freecad construction set, um yes, you can help us on beginning the construction set we're. Basically after we have all the parts we put them into a 3d printer workbench, so basically creating a workbench within freecad.

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That would allow us to do that. That's probably something that that would definitely be worth while I mean the first step on that is simply making freecad able to when you upload the workbench. It has all our parts and you can drag and drop design with some features that yeah like the step number one is just drag-and-drop design, design work, so you're pulling the parts to make 3d printers of all sides, and maybe it allows you to do things like.

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Oh now, I want to you know, say the frame is parametric or anything else is parametric, so we can reshape and resize things as needed and maybe write some scripts that that allow you to generate all the correct parts ya like like Gregory I'm thinking, because everything is parametric within freecad. You can, you know, hit a button to to create this size of a frame or you know, and it will scale all the parts accordingly to meet that frame or something like so yeah I mean there's plenty plenty of things.

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We can do on that too. To make that happen, yep so yeah, yeah yeah. Let's do that so get on it, but as far as let's look at this, so this is the critical for now. So we Friday Friday is game day. So Gregory is actually coming to the workshop. But where are we uninstructed.

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Less I'd, assuming is done carriage side, a little more work. So if jean-baptiste we could, you could continue. I think Chaz I think you said you're good to go on that you can study up stuff a little bit just look at how other people did stuff download their files and see if you can track what they did. I mean that the basic instructionals from two weeks ago are very quick to learn. There's just very basics that you need to know and then you can go further from there.

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Let's see, Abe Abe is working on the x-axis assembly. I guess we don't have a banach all right now we can check in on that. What I'll do is I'll, follow up with an email to everybody, just basically trying to coordinate everybody and focus everybody on okay use the development Network actively. So all your issues like we're, really like pulling this last week before saturday Saturday is the build day, but by friday night I guess friday night. What I'll do is I'll.

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Take all the videos that have been created, I'm going to put them on USB sticks so that we can have them for everybody doing the workshop right now. We've got I. Think we've got like 16 people, but the number of builds is it's actually eight, eight or nine. As far as the number of bills, we still have a couple of spots left and some couple more people were still supposed to sign up, but at least at least eight build somewhere between eight and 12 builds. We're going to be doing so.

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I need to make up those USBs with all the videos for friday night. So, let's communicate on the development network. There. Let's see heated bed so that started frame, Jose I think is doing well on that extruder animation. That would be great yeah.

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Now, there's more parts that we haven't touched so yeah I think everyone's pretty much busy. Let's see, maybe what we can do, Gregory I'd like to see how I can involve you so Gregory and Michael I know you guys are joining up arm.

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Let's see right now, it seems like Abe is the perhaps needs more like the axis. That's just a little piece, but here the things that are very important is how you actually put the axes together. So both x, y&z, I, don't know. My first first impulse would be to say Gregory. If you can take a look at Abe's log and just download his stuff and communicate with them and see where he's at we've got the emails that are sent out I'll, send up a follow-up email for everybody, encouraging everybody to coordinate but I, think Gregory.

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We should try to get you on this, at least in part, 2 we're basically taking firm where he is and try like the pear, pear thing like how well does the coordination like quick, rapid, back and forth coordination work with two people? Let's, let's see how how that could work? I would put you right there Gregory on part, two with Abe, so that's the entire axis assembly, not just the individual parts of access which are above there, so I'm pretty confident about these he's above, but these are the main one. So a blast low Gregory.

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We want to continue that and maybe Michael I'm going to see if Michael can help out here. If we can coordinate that Michael's, not here right now, you're supposed to join this meeting, so those those two major things and as far as the then at the end, the final final assembly I think the belt-tightening. It's probably a video I can do pretty quickly. Here. That's that's that that's actually pretty complicated I need to probably do that.

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um So let's say I'm going to just highlight these in red, so we can allocate them but which are some of the critical critical ones. Basically, once everything is done, what I would suggest as an experiment is somebody well. It depends on a state of the final assembly if the final assembly right now, which I believe a manual did that for the 16 inch version. If that is well organized doing the exploded, part animations there would be relatively straightforward, but for their definitely like the overall script is needed, like I, really I.

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Think I should probably do that and what I'll do is I'll do that after the meeting and then um with that script in place, whoever finishes up anything on their parts, they can go to that script and everybody basically swarm that, like the final assembly of what what axes go, what things are put on in what order, so some of the other things like the magnets, electronics, wiring and so forth, I think we're too late in the game. I think what we can do right now is the final assembly.

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What I'll do is produce the script for that. So let me just highlight that and then whoever's finished start nibbling at it and that's where the absolute do something upload log everything continuously is absolutely critical, because only that way can people actually build upon each other's work. So, in principle, like once, we have a full team like you can really divide something to very, very tiny parts and put it all together in very rapid time.

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So that's what we're getting towards the fact that, with the immediate uploads and- and you know, at the end of the day, it's going to have to be some some kind of a cloud mechanism where, whatever you're doing it gets automated automatically uploaded to to the cloud. So whatever somebody goes there. The first step you do is: is you download something you just say?

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Okay pull this from the repository, and then you start working so everything that you do you go up to the cloud immediately instead of like on the wiki which you have to you know manually download we're going to automate that in the future, but for now we just diligently upload things and do that so I think. That's probably all we can say for now regarding where we at on the work and I'll follow up with an email to try to coordinate everybody.

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But yes, please just go to the development network page and upload your stuff and log it carefully. Okay, so let's see the last thing so an agenda here I want to keep to the time here on questions page. So we have the questions page. So that's the team works assignment. I. Think we've got that solved, questions page. Let's go to that and then suggestions. um Any questions. Suggestions suggestions were yeah, so that's a little suggestion right there. You can read that for perspective. You do everything in a perspective view not orthographic view by the way.

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That's a big hint, ok, questions so Cedric yeah, so so I subject, I have a question for you actually and that is the busa i3 mk2 experience so that the thing that we're going to do next, which is the more Universal extruder we're going to need a fool BLM so well. First, you got to do your assembly videos but after that get to the vom I. Don't know how much you've done on that, but I think leave that for now, but make sure that happens later. Just put it on your task. Log, ok,.

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Have the links of the parts are we cooking yeah.

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So you know the you know the link for the vom, so we can put it there yep, so Jose scrubbing networking not being used. That's yeah, we kind of let it go replication of content in the meetings. Google slides in the log documentation takes some time to document here and there can we learn this a little bit, simplify it yeah, that's what we're trying to do. What we can do is with a question like that. We can do very specific action points as far as what to do.

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Thus crummy we haven't used so actually I have a I have a suggestion on that one Richard, so I asked Richard instead of working remotely on HR to get closer with us, maybe maybe Richard could do, but I mean that look the deal is we need a process manager. We don't have one like I'm trying to do all the stuff, prepare the meeting agenda and stuff like that doing all the other stuff. So we need bodies, but I would say for now the only person I can relegate, but it's either.

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All of us I mean it's like you know. The only solution to that is use it or you know, have some person kind of manager. But let's see if I mean it's Richard, but.

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The thing guys I just I'll, be honest: yeah.

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Go ahead and go ahead, and no this is goodness. This is critical.

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Are the things that the south of tension is works very good, because you don't plan things we can open it in a presentation. You can see the links as well yeah I'm, then we are be writing that again that again in the law document we r.

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Well, the thing we do to that is to try it. So why don't we try this? We have the scrum scrum stand-up pages on a document. Why don't we make sure that hmm see it's kind of tricky because I always go to the logs, I would say: emphasize.

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That you definitely get the scrum ii like this this week. Meeting like this is where we coordinate everybody's work, so I think it's important to see everything in one place. I would say, encourage people to use.

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This from stand up more.

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Like emphasize that make sure you have that, because, like right now, all those pages are blank, there could be the place where we do it all. How does that sound? What people do it.

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Yeah the things that people are will not documented a lot of them right, the things here, because it's really very uncomfortable until you got I've tried to do the three things for this drawing dr.. The lottery can do this in a high quality guy yeah.

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Yeah I would think more about it. I will definitely go for something simpler like like what we're doing now millennia. We can videos, we can put the links to the files or see we keep. We can do it on time. We don't need like the two tracks of borrowing. Now we have to start to perform. Okay,.

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Okay, so what if we do the stand up document all your stuff there and then for wiki, just freaked at files and any other stuff? You don't want to put understand so basically divide the content. You're going to put up like either choose the stand up or the wiki. So you definitely have to do the wiki for files, because that's where we upload the files and then for the scrum stand up, you can just simply link to them on the wiki how's that sound.

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Exactly static static information on the wicked and then our dynamic information with one already give people the presentation handles.

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Yep: let's try that let's try to be more diligent on that, so presentation stand up for dynamic, stuff yeah, let's see how it works, so people listen to this. That's that's a good thing. Yeah I do see this, this replication of work and then mmm yeah.

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I do like the idea. I mean I. You know, for example, I use a scrum board, but it's kind of irregular and I put like various tests there, just for like long-term, like if someone joined the team, and they said they were gonna, do something I put it up there in a scrum task log so but maybe like for now.

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Don't don't worry about the scrum task board because you really have to rearrange it and work it like every week and we just don't have the people, I'm hoping that as we get more people, we actually need to have somebody managing that because it gets too complex, we'll see what happens but for now, let's do the. Let's do this just the wiki upload, your files use the scrum part this presentation here to make sure that everybody knows what you're doing and then all the development questions. Basically def questions go to the the network.

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Yeah. Is that sound good.

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Let's try that okay, so let's do that I'm going to put that in red. Let's try that process and keep making the road by walking here. Okay, um Roberto is Brian working on a heated bed to know Roberta Roberta, no Brian. He actually left the team because he didn't think freecad was was adequate for purposes, so we're all alone on that. But that's that's okay, so let me is brian's name still there somewhere. No, no! Okay! Sorry about that. Remove that so he's actually officially off the team, so that'll be just yourself mm-hmm.

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So continue on that and post any questions. You have okay, great question, easy solution: okay, lasso should assembly videos have a subtitle for YouTube videos which can be translated later to any language may be automatically yeah it'll, be a good idea actually, but doesn't don't subtitles happen automatically like I, believe what happens if you speak clearly enough, the subtitles happen automatically, don't they so the answer to that is yes, because we want to be universal for all the languages.

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If you can do it, please do not a high priority for the first meeting, but it's definitely something as we roll out to the world. This will be more important, so I hope that answers the question and that's it so, let's wrap up then going back to the agenda. Anyone have any other final comments or questions.

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It's one p at noontime, new, no 3, so we're okay suggestions. What's working cetera, okay, I think we're going to wrap up if nobody has a common actually was going to say um the suggestions and comments.

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Try to put everything in here, like you know, for examples of me asking okay. What what else do we have like put that in a question so so we're more effective? Okay, so assuming we wrote down all the questions in the comments section, 2 4, 6 8, I'm seeing nine people on this hangout hangouts takes only 10, so we're actually going to do um we're looking at using jitsi or some other open source solution.

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We've got a guy looking at that right now, but we're going to have to get a presentation platform like hangouts that takes more than 10 people because we're over 10 people already, so it might be cutting some people out. So we're working on that. But, besides that, to wrap up this meeting game day is Saturday.

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We put all the energy into the instructionals production, because that means the work. The build day is going to take a look. Take us shorter. Hopefully we finish by you, know: I think the optimal scenario would be realistic. Optimal is 6 p.m. if we don't you know, but maybe like it will go until 8pm. If we're really like messing stuff up stuffs, not working, not enough. Clarity will like end up at midnight for the last person to finish or but hopefully with a swarming unavailable to gether.

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We eliminate the putt, even the possibility of the Midnight Run at that point, I'm really hoping that six to eight we've got everybody finished using the technique that as soon as anyone's done, they swarm on to help the next person. So literally the last person that's doing something. They've got like 16 people around them, trying to help them out fighting for space to help them.

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So that's that way we can really accelerate the build and I think that's a really nice idea, because the idea still is you can scale this kind of a build events with logistics to like a stadium, no limits. If you have good instructionals good design, we should be able to build a stadium full of these 3d printers. If we get a stadium full of people, that's actually what I'm going to try to shoot for I'm.

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Looking at it like a hundred person event for them to dissent like end of this year, see if we can pull that off in a major u.s. city like San Francisco, possibly New, York, San, Francisco's, better, there's more programmers there who want 3d printers in New York, there's too many hardware people they already have 3d printers there. Anyway. That's a thought, but with that said yes, so, let's coordinate as close as we can on I'm, going to follow up with the email.

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Put all the questions in the development Network upload, all your stuff and let's see what we can do for this week and then we'll start working on other directions like the domain. The main development, we're going to add, is going to be ducks true der the filament extruder, which is going to be critical. Once we build larger printers, where we're going to need to have our own filament, because otherwise it would be too expensive to print larger objects. Because remember our goal is print things like transpose plastic lumber. Anything like furniture right now.

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We need some fittings for the water system in a CD go home things like that, so we can do a lot of different stuff. The polycarbonate glazing, all kinds of stuff, gutters I mean aquaponics towers, gutters everything I mean there's the the world is made of metal, ceramic plastic and biomass. That's literally what the world is made of so plastics or are like a quarter of current society, they're like a quarter of civilization, so they're quite important. It's especially to bio plastics!

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So- and we want to do this- all solar, so we're running off solar power and things like that, so make it more ecological and with the recycling of plastic. That means we're turning our garbage into the print printing filament. So it's that's exciting. I. Think with that said, I think we're going to quit here. We're at 12 07 we're good to go. Put all the questions on LSD development network network that open source, ecology, org. So thanks a lot everybody and we'll we'll see you soon feel free. Really too put all the questions up.

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There keep that discussion going. I really want to emphasize just the continuous discussion back and forth, because it's all about mid-course correction. You really got to go through this iteratively back and forth a lot of times until you get it right and that's what we want to do so thanks. Everybody we'll see you soon.