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From YouTube: Solar Hydrogen Car Build Coming up April 22, 2022
Description
Introducing Extreme U projects. What if we were to build the first, practical, open source, solar hydrogen car?
https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Extreme_University_Projects
This is going all the way into open production toolchains that include open source electric motors and hydrogen engines.
If you are at a university and woyld like to start Team OSE at your school as a chapter of OSE - then sign up at https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Extreme_U
A
I
want
to
come
up
with
open
source.
Ecology
is
asking
for
people
to
think
outside
of
the
mode
of
buying
something
shiny
and
perfect
on
amazon
and
just
setting
it
out
on
your
counter
and
having
it
right,
we're
inviting
people
to
something
different
than
that,
and
that's
got
to
be
part
of
it,
but
everybody's
spoiled
by
the
experience
they
get
buying
something
on
amazon
and
having
it
arrive,
shiny
and
putting
it
onto
their
counter.
A
So
there's
got
to
be
I
I
don't
none
of
it's
intended
to
be
a
complaint,
but
rather
these
are
the
things
that
I'm
seeing
that
I
know
we
need
to
do
on
the
product
development
side
in
order
to
make
this
competitive
enough
to
make
a
big
impact
and
really
start
to
spread
with
some
more
speed.
You
know
yeah.
A
I
think
I've
been
watching
a
lot
of
3d
printer
review
videos
on
youtube
as
a
way
to
research
how
they're
talked
about
and
what
3d
printer
buyers
are
looking
for,
yeah
and
so
going
through
this
kit,
I'm
imagining
myself
as
one
of
those
youtube
reviewers.
What
am
I
commenting
on
so
far
on
the
build
process?
You
know.
B
What's
what
do
you
get
out
of
what
how
are
people
talking
about
3d
printers.
A
A
lot
of
diversity
in
the
market
and
I'm
right
now
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
figure
out
where
3d
printers
are
discussed
outside
of
the
hobbyist
community,
so
to
speak.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
on
youtube.
A
B
B
A
Busiest
guys
on
youtube
that
talk
about
you
know,
they'll
be
reviewing
a
3d
printer
and
they'll
say
this
is
really
good
for
these
reasons
and
they'll
speak
to
some
business
points,
but
I
don't
know
how
much
of
their
viewership
are.
More
enterprise
minded
individuals
you
know
and
we
need
both
like.
We
need
the
hobbyist
maker
to
be
a
big
part
of
this
too.
Absolutely,
but
with
the
part
of
this
that
I'm
really
focused
on
that
the
enterprise.
A
B
Would
you
say
you
see
some
some
enterprise
discussion?
What
was
the
extent
of
it,
people
talking
about.
A
B
Speed
joe's
popping
off
josh:
how
are
you
doing
there.
E
B
Are
great,
you
know,
people
who
have
different
audiences
and
they're
talking
about
exciting
things
and
asking
good
questions.
I
feel
good
about
it.
It's
good.
E
A
I
think
you're
gonna
see
it's
a
momentum
game
too
sorry
about
the
disconnect
guys.
The
whole
whole
valley's
been
having
trouble
with
the
internet
lately,
but
I
think
what
you'll
see
is
there's
going
to
be
something
of
a
momentum
game
too.
A
Some
of
the
some
of
the
bigger
cop
podcasts,
with
huge
reach,
like
npr
I've,
been
sort
of
saving,
because
my
intention,
my
hope,
is
that
once
we
get
10
or
15
of
these
under
our
belts,
then
when
we
start
pitching
to
new
podcasts,
we
can
say
here
is
a
podcast
that
speaks
to
your
same
audience
and
here's
the
conversation
they
had
now.
This
was
the
listener
feedback
on
previous
appearances
on
podcasts,
and
so
that
gives
us
a
lot
more
well.
A
B
I
get
on
what
are
some
other
suggestions
today.
The
guy
francisco
suggested
indie
hackers.
Those
are
people
who
are
hacking,
their
current
job,
as
in
like
getting
some
small
gig
on
the
sideline
and
they
have
a
podcast.
So
I
just
put
that
in
in
a
spreadsheet,
there's
also
another
another
suggestion
was
it's
called
praxis
or
start
yeah.
B
I
got
a
link
for
this,
this
other
guy,
who
does
a
podcast
as
well
who
people
who
are
kind
of
like
entrepreneurs
who
are
switch
kind
of
like
looking
for
a
gig
or
something
like
that.
People
who
are
training
people
to
be
entrepreneurial
like
outside
of
the
school
system,
yeah,
yeah,
cool,
stuff,
cool
stuff.
Every
every
time
I
get
on,
there's
a
good
lead
or
two
I'll
keep
putting
them
in
yeah,
yeah
yeah.
So
to
yeah
it's
a
good
yeah.
I
mean
a
lot
of
them
are
just
really
good.
B
It's
exciting
just
to
kind
of
like
learn
from
the
people
as
well
like
the
guy
who,
on
tuesday,
was
jason
van
gumpster
and
he
he
wrote
like
he
wrote
the
blender
for
dummies,
I
mean
that's
cool
cool
people,
so
definite
potential
collaborators
and
people
who
have
collaborative
mindsets
too,
very
good
looking
at.
So
how
do
we
approach
since
there's
a
whole
bunch,
a
bunch
of
them?
B
I
mean
kind
of
what
are
we
doing,
because
I
did
think
it
might
be
good
to
to
kind
of
switch
gears
a
little
bit
over
into
schools
like
universities,
with
a
very
specific
pitch,
and
I
was
thinking
just
going
crazy.
Just
do
something
crazy,
like
a
hydrogen
car
yay,
which,
if
you
break
it
down,
I
mean
so.
First
of
all,
it's
kind
of
a
crazy
idea
and
we're
gonna
have
to
go
through
some
feasibility,
but
I
think
just
getting
that
discussion
and
and
calling
out
for
a
crazy
idea
to
to
be
done.
B
I
think,
is
good.
There
are
definitely
problems
to
to
address
in
that
problem
statement,
but
also,
as
we
get
the
you
know,
the
teams
wrapped
into
this
we
see
who
wants
to
collaborate,
there's
enough
material
there
and
overlaps
on
different
topics
like
if
we
go
with
an
ambitious
project
that
this
is
bigger
than
any
of
us
someone's
going
to
have
to
figure
out
every
issue,
and
I
wanted
to
go
at
it
from
reverse
engineering,
all
the
components,
so
we
wrap
in
the
electric
motor
in
it.
So
there's
electric
motors
that
might
be
3d
printed.
B
B
So
I'd
I'm.
I
am
thereby
proposing
the
open
source
solar
hydrogen
car
as
the
university
project
for
all
for
all
of
the
world.
Do
you
think
we
can
get
some
people
for
that.
A
Yeah
I
wanna
I
wanna,
do
I
wanna?
Do
I
think
we
should.
I
think
we
should
work
specifically
on
what
we'll
call
pitch
development
make
make
something
that
can
be
presented,
make
something
that
can
be
presented.
The
way
things
are
at
universities,
where
we
can
send
somebody
not
necessarily
a
printed
information
packet,
but
a
very
tight
polished
website
with
exactly
what
we
want
the
program
to
entail.
Maybe
some
videos
from
previous
steam
camps
to
give
people
a
sense
of
how
open
source
ecology
thinks
of
itself,
but
lay
something
together.
A
That
is
cohesive,
where
it's
all
gathered
up
nicely
and
then
farm
that
out
to
schools
of
engineering
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
That
would
be
most
interested
in
it,
but
I
think
it's
a,
I
think.
It's
a
brilliant
idea.
I
think
carefully.
Building
up
a
pitch
will
be
a
big
part
of
making
it
successful.
B
E
Yeah,
I
think,
with
this,
it's
gonna
be
different
than
the
podcast
too.
It's
not
like
customizing
for
school
is
kind
of
just
introducing
this
one
project
or
idea
that
morrison
has
and
each
school
can
either
decide
to
jump
on
or
not
yeah.
That's
something
would
be
very
interesting
right
after
this
podcast
list.
E
In
terms
of
like
reaching
out
to
him
like.
B
E
I
think
joe
was
kind
of
talking
about
like
having
a
web
page
with,
like
all
the
ideas
like
put
out
onto
this
project
kind
of
like
how
we
have
the
the
city
building
and
like,
instead
of
customizing,
each
pitch
kind
of
toward
the
schools
in
the
email.
You
just
really
link
them
to
this
one
page
and
they
can
read
all
about
it
and
then
like
find
an
easier
way
for
them
to
sign
up.
I
guess
instead.
B
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
modular
breakdown
of
the
project
lends
itself
to
a
lot
of
different
interests
and
we
should
try
to
design
it
just
like
if
you
guys
have
heard
any
of
the
recent
work
on
extreme
enterprise
concept,
breaking
down
to
many
many
roles,
because
this
this
could
be
a
lot
of
different
roles.
There's
people
in
video
could
participate
in
and
marketing
could
participate
like
we.
We
should
pitch
it
as
hey.
B
This
is
something
that
we're
going
to
develop
and
it's
going
to
develop
into
a
product
at
some
point
and
catch
a
lot
of
interest
with
it,
and
maybe
there's
like
partial,
small,
partial
prototypes
that
are
almost
there,
but
but
I
think
the
scope
of
it.
So
there's
like
on
one
side,
there's
like
housing
right,
that's
a
big
big
project.
Then
there's
like
transportation
cars.
I
mean
that's,
it's
huge
an
amount
of
things
it
can.
We
can
collect
in
there
in
terms
of
the
the
breadth
of
that
experience,
I
think,
could
be
great
okay.
B
B
B
Well,
let
me
share
this
with
you.
All
this
should
be.
Let's
see,
is
this
editable?
Anyone
in
turn
can
find
and
edit,
let's
edit
this
together.
B
Okay,
get
in
there
please
and
then
first
is
the.
B
It's
not
popping
up
for
you
guys
in
the
chat
box.
Oh
oh
yeah,
yeah!
No,
the
presentation
to
get
in
there.
Oh
yeah,
yeah,
yeah
yeah,
get
it
get
right
in
there
and
then
where's.
The
hydrogen
page.
B
Solar,
what
happened
to
it?
Oh
extreme,
you.
B
Extreme
project,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
quick,
quick
brand
we're
extreme.
This
is
university.
This
is
about
you
getting
engaged
so
you're
participating
at
the
university.
B
This
would
be
like
will
be
the
vision
for
this.
I
I'd
like
to
see
something
you
guys
ever
hear
of
the
solar
challenge.
B
No,
I
have
not
solar
challenges
is
where
they
race
across
australia
and
solar
electric
cars.
Let's
see,
is
that
the
correct
name,
solar
challenge,
solar
decathlon,.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
it's
school
teams
that
participate
primarily
take
a
look
at
that.
That's
a
pretty
cool
thing,
so
something
of
that
nature.
Now
there
is
a
big
difference
for
osc
compared
to
an
effort
like
that,
and
the
main
thing
we
want
to
show
is
that
so
take
a
look
at
a
thing
like
a
solar
challenge.
It's
not
collaborative
and
we're
solving
for
collaboration.
B
So
that's
the
first
thing
like
we
can
turn
heads
by
saying
this
is
a
collab
extreme.
You
is
a
collab.
We
start
from
the
get-go,
absolutely
collaborative
effort.
B
E
B
E
B
It
would
be
nice,
but
if
you
want
global
collaboration,
I
want
global
collaboration
we
could
have.
We
could
have
an
annual
event.
I
want
to
see
an
annual
event,
so
basically,
like
solar
challenge,
an
annual
event
culmination
is
where
everybody
gets
together,
whoever
can
make
it
whoever
can
get
sponsored
or
can
find
the
resources
to
make
it
and
try
to
do
it
in
some
central
location,
probably
like
middle
of
the
united
states.
B
Actually,
you
know,
interestingly,
we're
in
a
geographical
center
of
the
country
just
about,
but
it
would
have
to
be
a
place
where
we
culminate
and
we
celebrate
and
we
get
everybody
together.
It's
think
of
it.
This
way
that
it
could
be
even
teams.
One
team
builds
electric
motor
one
team
builds
an
electrolyzer.
B
One
team
builds
an
open
source
internal
combustion
engine
wow.
We're
talking
like.
Let's
just
split
this
into
all
these
roles
and
go
crazy.
That's
that
I
think,
because
that
event
I
mean
all
these
kinds
of
events
are,
are
exciting,
but
I
mean
to
see
this
kind
of
a
I
think
the
head.
B
Turning
would
be
from
the
fact
that
this
is
collaborative
and
we're
we're
all
putting
our
heads
together
to
do
something
much
bigger
than
any
single
team
could
do
so
the
brand
here
it's
like
this
is
bigger
than
any
single
team
which,
from
the
get-go
I
mean.
B
B
Collaborate
not
compete.
You
can
break
up
the
hydrogen
car
into
many
modules.
I
would
like
to
see
as
we
go
along
formalization
of
osd
chapters
at
universities.
B
I
would
like
to
see
that
there's
a
staff
person
that's
involved
and
there's
there's
club
members,
but
the
staff
person
is
going
to
be
the
permanent
part
like
if
we
could
find
a
staff
person,
then
they're
around
more
than
the
students,
because
students
graduate
and
we'd
like
to
make
this
like
an
annual
effort.
B
Oh
they're,
once
I've
been
made
like,
for
example,
let's
look
at
actually,
let's
take
a
look
at
this
osc
workshops.
There
was
a
post
on
this
in
the
80s
a
guy
named
billings.
Did
that
like
right
here?
B
This
comment
here,
billings
corporation
had
a
number
of
hydrogen
powered
vehicles
in
the
80s,
including
a
us
post
office
delivery,
vehicle
hydrogen
bus
operating
in
california
and
winnebago.
A
peugeot
was
modified
to
run
on
hydrogen.
Hydrogen
was
stored
in
tanks
filled
with
granular
alloy
that
absorbed
hydrogen
gave
it
off.
When
heated
in
case
of
an
accident,
there
would
not
be
a
hindenburg
event,
but
rather
a
broom
would
sweep
up
the
spilled,
granules
homo
seed
and
cooled
with
hydrogen.
B
Together
with
heating
water,
hydrogen
gas
range,
a
lawn
mower
for
the
home
was
powered
by
hydrogen,
which
was
produced
by
an
electrolyzer.
It's
hard
to
believe
that
this
was
40
years
ago
and
clean
burning
hydrogen
is
not
mainstream.
So
I
think
the
general
pattern
is
that
some
technologies
take
time
to
roll
out.
B
A
lot
of
people
will
talk
about,
like
I
guess,
ellen
musk
will
talk
about
that.
Oh
that's!
A
hydrogen
bomb!
Well,
not
exactly
accurate
way
to
say
it
because
compressed
hydrogen
is
a
known
technology,
so
part
of
this
would
be
to
make
that
case,
like,
I
think
part
of
the
we're
going
to
get
this
all
the
time,
and
you
already
asked
that
josh
and
that
is
make
the
case
so
clarify
the
case
for
safety
is
one
of
the.
B
I
mean
there's
different
ways
to
do
it.
There's
hydrogen
it's
called
what
was
what
they
call
it
here:
absorb
hydrogen
granular
alloy.
It's
called
that's
called
metal
hydride
storage.
B
Or
you
could
do
compressed
hydrogen
so
what
I'd
like
you
guys
to
do?
I
think
I
have
to
convince
you
two
guys
first,
but
if
you
look
on
youtube,
you'll
see
that,
like
they
do
tests
of
okay,
what
happens
if
you
blow
up
a
tank
of
stored
hydrogen?
B
It's
it's!
Okay!
If,
if
you're
not
storing
hydrogen
and
oxygen
mixed
because
that's
an
explosive
mixture,
if
it's
only
hydrogen,
you
need
oxygen
for
it
to
burn.
So
if
you
like,
explode
it
or
shoot
a
bullet
through
it,
it'll
kind
of
like
fizz
out
just
like
blow
out
real
fast
and
have
a
have
a
flame
not
too
bad
comparable
to
gasoline
like
gasoline
is
probably
more
dangerous
in
that
kind
of
a
situation,
because
the
hydrogen
will
just
leak
out
very
quickly
because
it's
lighter
than
air
and
it
won't
explode
because
it
it.
B
If
you
have
a
plain
tank
of
it,
it
doesn't,
but
I
think
there's
that
to
be
made
as
a
case,
and
we
don't
know
if,
if
we
go
with
compressed
hydrogen
would
would
anyone
do
that?
Like
would
people
at
universities
be
okay
with
it?
Well,
there's
people
who
do
research
on
that,
but
maybe
we'll
find
that
that's
kind
of
hard
for
somebody
to
allow
that
at
their
university,
we'll
have
to
do
some
research
on
it.
B
B
The
easiest,
the
lowest
brow
thing
just
technically
speaking,
is
you're
taking
water
you're
breaking
it
apart
with
an
electrolyzer
and
then
you're,
storing
it
like
with
scuba
gas
tank
compressors
like
that's,
that's
the
technology.
That's
very
well
known:
that's
like
2
000
to
5000
psi,
but
for
the
hydrogen
tanks
you
can
go
like
5000
psi
or
10
000
psi
the
pumps
there
might
be
more
expensive,
but
I
know
there's
people.
There's
people
have
done
this
and
I
have
experimented
with
this
and
I
think
a
lot
of
times
people
just
so.
B
B
Now,
fuel
cells
are
more
efficient,
they're
like
60
efficient.
I'm
just
saying
here:
hey
we're
just
going
to
burn
this
thing,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
hundred
times
better
than
burning
gasoline
for
the
pollution.
You
know
so
we're
we're
dumbing
down
the
technology
to
combustion,
but
using
advanced
fuel
and
that's
a
that's,
a
good
idea.
It
is
a
good
idea.
I
don't
think
you
can
argue
that,
like
a
lot
of,
but
a
lot
of
people,
of
course
in
the
industry,
they
will
say:
oh
well,
you
need
fuel
cells.
B
Well,
you
don't
they're
more
efficient,
but
if
you
can
generate
hydrogen
efficiently
through,
like
pv,
which
is
very
cheap
these
days.
The
case
for
solar
hydrogen
is
very
strong,
and
here
at
at
this
house
that
I'm
in
right
now
we
have
pv
for
like.
If
you
buy
pv
panels,
you
can
go
through
the
math.
Actually
I'll
show
you
the
link,
the
open
source
pv
system,
because
you
got
to
understand
that
you
can
do
pv
at
two
cents
per
kilowatt
hour.
B
You
can
do
solar
if
you
know
how
to
do
it
according
to
the
open
source
pv
system
which
I'll
send
you
an
open
source
pv
system.
This
is
actually
quite
important,
but
I
mean
I
don't
think
many
people
know
about
this.
B
I
think
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
technical
literacy
on
this
at
this
level
and,
of
course,
the
industry's
gonna
say
this
is
not
possible
because
it's
not
an
interest
of
a
lot
of
industries
to
let
this
cat
out
of
the
bag
so
take
a
look
at
cost
of
electricity
production.
I'm
going
to
link
that
and
it's
an
interesting
point
for
anybody
to
to
to
dispute
these
terms
there.
But
this
is
our
data
from
our
place
right
here.
B
So,
let's
put
that
in
clarify,
so
we
can,
in
this
process
clarify
the
case
for
cost
effectiveness.
B
Of
solar
hydrogen
so
we're
getting
at
factory
farm
we're
getting
two
cent
per
kilowatt
hour,
cost
of
pv
electricity.
B
Am
I
linking
to
it
yeah
I'll
link
to
it?
That's
that
which
means
that
if
you're,
like
say
somebody
argues
with
you
and
they
say:
hey,
you
know
it's
like
that's
crazy,
you're
gonna
burn
hydrogen
in
an
engine.
You
need
fuel
cells.
Well,
if
your
cost
of
producing
the
hydrogen
is
lower
and
in
fact,
five
times
lower
than
the
fact
that
internal
combustion
engine
at
twenty
percent
is
one,
the
efficiency
of
a
fuel
cell
at
60
does
not
matter.
B
You
still
come
out
ahead,
so
I
mean
you
can
argue
this
in
many
ways,
but
there's
a
good
case
that
you
can
say
that
this
actually
makes
sense,
and
this
could
just
therefore
hydrogen
energy
could
be
this
distributed
across
the
world.
Today
I
mean
this:
is
it's
a
it's
a
big
idea,
of
course,
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
resistance,
and
probably
my
opinion
you'll
probably
get
a
lot
of
resistance
on.
B
Well,
no,
I'm
not
going
to
even
say
that
I
think,
with
this
hydrogen
storage
and
approved
containers
that
are
rated
for
10,
000,
psi
or
5000
psi.
I
think
that
might
be
the
way
to
go
and
those
those
are
affordable.
They
don't
break
the
bank
on
they're
gonna,
be
like
a
thousand
bucks,
but
that
technology
all
exists
and
then
it's
a
case
for
developing
these
high
pressure
vessels,
more
of
them
and
low
cost
yep.
B
B
E
Like
the
the
energy
side
and
all
that,
but
if
it's
doable
then
it
really
just
comes
down
to
like
the
pitch
for
the
colleges,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
talent
out
there
with
students.
E
Oh
absolutely
yeah.
It's
just
also
like
a
lot
of
the
logistics
like
do
you
want
to
reach
out
to
like
grad
school
students
because
they're
the
type
of
people
that
will
have
a
lot
of
knowledge,
with
what
they're
doing
and
be
able
to
do
it
like
efficiently,
but
it's
harder
to
get
them
like,
as
engaged
as
undergrad
students
right.
B
B
B
The
world
you're
going
to
find
people,
I
mean
hydrogen,
let's
see
active
research.
Let's
see
active
research,
active
research
on
hydrogen,
I
mean
you're
gonna,
I
mean
this
journal
is
devoted
to
it.
There's
tons
of
it
going
on
everywhere.
Let's
see,
there's
ucf
florida,
solar
energy
center
has
got
hydrogen.
B
I
mean
that
it's
common,
it's,
it's
not
not
a
fringe
thing.
The
other
thing
is
for
people
who
deny
hydrogen
is
like
the
number
of
hydrogen
gas
stations
in
california,
at
least,
is
quite
on
the
increase,
but
nobody
hears
it.
I
mean.
Do
we
hear
about
hydrogen
cars
these
days?
No
right.
A
B
Yeah
now
there's
also
the
the
unpopular
argument
that
the
lithium-ion
batteries
are.
They
are
so
bad
from
my
viewpoint,
it's
like
it's
really
environmental
disaster,
because
I
mean
that's
my
opinion
on
lithium
ions
they're
good
for
like
and
of
course
I
you
know,
I
a
car,
that's
on
lithium-ion
or
tesla
is
very
sexy
and
all
that
it's
fun.
B
But
I
don't
know
like
the
idea
of
anything
related
to
lithium-ion.
That's
going
to
be
for
future
cars.
No,
that's!
I
don't
think
it's
really
likely
because
lithium,
according
to
estimates,
has
got
like
a
200
year
supply
according
to
current
usage
and
to
recycle.
It
is
pretty
hard
and
it's
a
pretty
dirty
technology.
You're
talking
about
you
know
your
countrysides
and
china
being
ripped
up
for
the
lithium
elements
and
stuff
like
that.
B
So
I
think,
if
you
read
about
the
critique
of
lithium,
I
mean
you,
I
think
you'll
find
plenty
that
it's
not
a
very
clean
technology.
If
you
look
at
the
whole
whole
chain
of
events
from
from
the
earth
to
disposal,
that's
that's
arguments,
but
we
don't.
We
don't
need
to
get
into
those.
We
want
to
say
hey.
B
We
want
to
do
something,
that's
completely
clean
and
it's
it
could
be
a
decentralizable
technology
so
that
this
can
be
a
definitely
there's
potential
here
for
distributing
energy
production
and
changing
human
history,
as
we
know
it.
So
it's
kind
of
exciting.
A
If
we
think
about,
if
we
think
about
who
we're
pitching
this
program,
to
what
are
they
most
concerned
with,
I
think
the
technological
feasibility-
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
wonderful
and
it's
good
and
it
helps
a
lot
to
have
all
this
research
and
have
some
ideas
at
the
onset
about
what
particular
iterations
of
these
technologies.
We
want
to
incorporate
into
these
projects
and
maybe
the
process
of
discovering
that
it's.
A
B
A
A
A
The
experiential
value
to
an
engineering
student
is
huge,
and
so
I'm
I
I
see
the
feasibility
of
the
technology.
A
Engaging
rather
than.
B
C
A
A
A
Going
to
need,
but
the
design
aspects.
A
A
A
E
A
B
How
are
those
problems
solved?
Okay,
let's
invite
people
to
that
process.
This
is
stage
one
yeah
modular
breakdown,
so
the
yeah
do
the
industry
standard
of
what
we
do,
which
is
modular
breakdown,
allocating
a
number
of
tasks
to
a
lot
of
different
people,
because
with
a
modular
breakdown
you
can
you
know
like
say
you
know:
you've
got
the
car,
you
can
start
breaking
this
down
into
wheels.
E
B
You
can
do
you
know,
break
this
down
into
many
many
parts.
Then
you
go
into
so
that's
I'll
show
another
one
so
based
on
the
extreme
enterprise.
B
So
here's
working
on
the
house
project
here,
but
if
you
talk
about
the
generic
I'm
going
to
actually
paste
this
this
thing
here
so
there's
certain
specifications
we
follow.
B
So
this
is
this
was
for
then,
for
the
cd
go
home.
You
can
start
with
requirements.
You
can
have
products
and
product
breakdown
like
the
product
strategy,
would
be
okay,
here's
our
car,
here's
the
subsystems
of
it
there's
raw
architecture
for
how
many
different
people,
what
different
people
are
needed
to
do
different
parts
of
the
development
and
then
there's
now
talking
about
enterprise
is
kind
of
like
it's
kind
of
like
we
have
to
think
about
what
what
that
means,
because
what
are
you
gonna
do
for
an
enterprise
of
hydrogen
cars?
B
Well,
that's
a
little
bit
way
off,
but
maybe
there's
some
some
educational
products
or
something
else
that
that
may
come
out
or
like
the
subsystems
like,
for
example,
we're
developing
an
open
source
electric
motor.
Maybe
that
there's
a
case.
Oh
okay,
in
this
whole
project,
we
developed
this
competitive
electric
motor,
or
something
like
that.
So
so
I
think
we
should
try
to
build
in
some
of
the
enterprise
into
this.
B
Definitely
and
then
you've
got
technology
modules
and
interfaces,
and
then
we
kind
of
loop
around
that
and
continue
to
iterate,
but
that's
kind
of
like
the
high
level
high
level
view
of
it
for
somewhat
of
a
design
process.
I'm
gonna
just
paste
that
in
there
from
this
other
dock,
so.
B
Joe,
so
what's
what
are
you
up
to
in
the
next
week
or
two?
Are
you
busy
building
them
on
the
printer?
Do
you
have
any
time
for
this,
or
I
have.
B
B
So
you
guys,
you
know
talking
about
dividing
roles,
I
can
break
down
the
tech
into
into
pieces.
I
could
do
that.
I
could
start
thinking
about
the
pitch.
What
do
we,
let's
see
how
to
divide
labor
here
best.
E
A
E
E
Because,
just
being
around
college
environments
too,
I
realize
like
students,
if
they're
not
like
when
they're
joining
clubs
or
like
a
project,
if
they're
not
kind
of
given
direction
or
told
what
they're
doing,
then
it
can
just
turn
into
like
a
complete
mess,
especially
if
it's
collaborating
amongst
a
ton
of
universities.
A
A
E
B
Yep,
the
market.
D
B
B
Yep
we're
gonna
all
we're
gonna
do
year
of
work
and
then
we're
gonna
all
descend
into
one
place.
To
put
it
together
with
all
the
information
that
we
have
we'll
make
a
minimum
viable
product
on
that
that
fine
day
it's
like
product
demo
day
where
we
try
to
put
everything
we
know
together
and
it's
a
highly
collaborative
event,
of
course
before
it
is
a
lot
of
coordination
between
all
the
all
the
different.
E
B
E
A
B
I'm
like
okay,
people
can
travel
okay
and
april.
Actually
still
has
some
spring
breaks.
Don't
doesn't
it
for
some
people,
but
maybe
not
if
it's
a
lot
of
university
people
does
that
does
that
pose
april
22
pose
a
big
challenge
for
logistics.
E
E
Or
something
like
that
to
to
go,
do
club
stuff
and
if
they're
on
campus
in.
B
B
Now,
as
far
as
how
do
we
communicate
how
our
design
submitted
and
all
that
I
mean,
we've
got
a
lot
of
that
stuff
worked
out
for
from
the
osc
collaboration
protocol,
so
maybe
maybe
on
the
first
page.
Well,.
B
Well
or
here,
let's
just
continue
here,
plan
and
schedule
so
for
the
some
of
the
planning
I
mean,
there's
take
a
look
at
osc
collaboration
protocol
for
open
source
projects.
B
Say
josh,
if
you
had
some
time
to
to
work
on
this,
what
would
you
be
in
a
position
to
do
that?
My
suggestion
would
be
okay
at
this
time,
so
we're
still
we're
going
to
the
outreach
now
to
universities
and
looking
for
all
all
open
source
related
interests,
topic-related.
B
So
I
would
say
primarily
open
source,
so
anyone
who's
like
collaboration
or
large-scale
collaboration
or
project
management
or
product
development
interests,
especially
if
they're
related
to
open
source
and
eco
ethical
technologies
and
all
of
that
so
yeah
same
process,
same
kind
of
audience,
plus
the
specific
subject
matter.
Like
there's,
electric
motors
there's
engines,
there's
cnc,
there's
rubber
tires
rubber,
3d,
printing
there's
controls,
there's
like
a
computer
vision
like
what.
B
If
this
is
an
autonomous
hydrogen,
solar,
pv
car
yeah,
I
mean
we
can
talk,
we
can
invite
everybody
and
then
the
systems
that
we
try
to
make
would
still
be.
B
If
we're
moving
forward
on
open
source
modular,
then
it's
still
relevant
because
I
think
a
lot
of
times
the
the
open
source
part
I
mean
okay,
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
like
if
you,
for
example,
take
a
look
at
computer
vision
like.
Is
there
an
open
source
computer
vision
system
that
we
can
use
right
now
that
can
drive
an
autonomous
car?
Well,
I
don't
think
so.
B
That's
cutting
edge
technology
still,
but
can
we
actually
move
that
process
forward
like
competing
with
google
and
and
tesla
or
collaborating
by
competing
by
collaborating?
So
we're
saying
that
we're
going
to
try
to
align
everybody
and
the
process
is
the
the
project
is
complex,
but
maybe
like.
Maybe
we
could
get
gain
headway
by
by
the
radical
collaboration
aspect.
So
we're
saying
it's
like
this
is
open.
This
is
for
everybody,
and
maybe
we
can
even
start
showing
hints
that
hey
we're
actually
getting
really
good
results.
E
Yeah
there's
a
lot
to
this
old
project.
I
think
more
more
challenges
will
rise
as
we
go,
but
I
think
we
just
need
to
for
now.
B
I'd
say
so
I
mean
what
else
what
else
I
mean,
what
you
said
is
good
like
if
we
can
look
into
just
basically
getting
a
team
team
together,
yeah.
Basically,
here's
like
if
you
go
also
into
this
document
here.
I'm
gonna
paste
this,
because
here,
like
in
the
house
document,
I
put
a
whole
bunch
of
breakdown
in
there
for
raw
architecture,
enterprise
related,
there's,
technical
documentation,
business
plan,
financial
analysis.
B
I
don't
know
you
can
you
can
possibly
use
that
as
a
maybe
some
guideline,
but
I
mean
a
lot
of
things
are
under
the
sun,
are
included
that
are
under
the
sun,
are
included
in
a
in
a
project
like
this
because
we're
selecting
the
problem
to
be
pretty
large,
but
I
think
yeah
yeah,
I
mean
I
would
definitely
suggest
we
can.
We
can
start
looking
at
those
people
as
far
as
who's,
who
are
the
open
source.
E
A
E
B
Yeah
I'd
say:
okay,
I
would
say:
let's
get
the
master
list
of
like
once.
We
have
a
package
more
coherent
or
a
simple
invitation,
because
we
can
also
choose
to
invite
like
early
on
in
the
process.
We
can
choose
to
invite
people
saying
hey
we're
doing
this.
Do
you
want
to
be
actually
collaborating
on
on
a
planning
part
say
this
person
is
in
some
project
management
or
some
management
track
or
enterprise
development
or
product
development
track,
and
they
might
want
to
just
get
involved
in
this
this
this
part.
B
We
can
say
we
can
invite
them
to
the
to
the
meeting,
so
we
can
actually
be
building
up
this
meeting
into
this
posse
of
aligned,
people
who
are
who
build
momentum,
and
how
do
we
keep
building
momentum
so
that
we
don't
get
bored
or
flake
off
this?
Well,
I
think,
by
starting
with
a
large
project,
I
think
there's
a
good
chance
of
getting
quite
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
interest.
B
I
think
I
don't
know.
I
think
the
topic
is
so
big
that
I
think
we
we
might.
Instead
of
like
attrition,
we
might
be
just
continuously
building
speed
to
this.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah:
let's
try
it
what
I
would
like
to
do.
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
create
a
new
page
on
wiki
tonight
and
I'm
going
to
fill
it
in
as
if
it
were
a
pitch
page
for
this.
A
You
know
if
I
wanted
to
if
I,
if
josh
or
I
or
you,
if
we're
talking
to
somebody
at
one
of
these
universities,
and
they
want
to
see
this
whole
thing
broken
down
in
a
concise
and
approachable
format,
something
they
could
turn
around
and
take
to
their
dean
and
say:
hey
I'd
really
like
to
do
this.
Here's
all
of
the
relevant
here's,
the
elevator
pitch
I'll,
open
up
a
wiki
document,
nice.
A
B
B
Now,
how
do
we
communicate
so
I
mean
you
can
see
the
notes
so
on
mj
log,
you
can
see
the
notes
to
this
meeting
like
like
right
here.
I
think
we're
doing.
Okay
with
the
the
logs.
I
think
that's
good,
so
we
can
coordinate
everyone,
but
basically
get
everybody
to
everyone
keeps
a
log.
We
can
coordinate
that
way
and
then
there's
the
wiki.
B
B
Let's,
let's
do
it
I'm
going
to
paste
this
doc.
B
So
yeah
today's
document
is
on
there,
so
you
can
put
the
notes
to
that
page.
B
A
E
All
right
from
from
here.
A
Let
me
see
here
I
have
to
look
because
they
didn't
reply
right
to
my
oh,
oh,
oh,
oh,
this
was
one
of
the
guys
I
found
when
I
was
digging
around
knowledge
without
college
podcast,
and
so
it's
all
about
technology,
entrepreneurship
and
self-education.
B
A
good
one:
okay,
the
guy
today
francisco,
was
we're
talking
about
that
a
little
bit
too
knowledge
without
college.
B
E
To
fill
out
my
hours
on
my
blog,
it.
B
Okay,
it
just
worked
for
me.
Show
me
your
screen.
What's
going
on,
how
do
I
screen
go
top
middle
there's
a
share
screen
up
here.
C
D
E
B
A
E
Yeah
but
like
I've
had
my
app
lock
off
and
that's
how
I
usually
use
it.
Oh
okay-
and
I
don't
know
I
I
like
updated
the
ad
blocking
ever
since
it's
just
been
like.
I
could.
Let
me
see
if
I
remove
it.
E
E
B
Okay,
so
so
let's
do
the
following.
So
let's,
let's
start
getting
a
master
list
so
like
you
started
the
podcast
list,
do
one
that's
so
you
got
the
university
yeah,
basically
name
university
topics
that
they
research
on,
just
starting
with
three
columns,
so
you
got
whoever
that
is,
link
email
if
you
can
find,
or
maybe
probably
contact
info
like
if
the
people
are
good
like
yeah,
we
should
be
able
to
get
their
email
info
as
a
candidate.
We
can
follow
up
whenever
we
get
a
chance.
B
A
Hang
on,
I
have
some,
I
have
quite
a
few
friends
in
higher
education.
I
could
just
reach
out
to
them
for
straight
up
organic
networking.
A
A
I
may
they
may
see
if
one
of
those
guys
could
well
we'll
see
we'll
see
I'll
talk
more
I'll
talk
to
my
higher
ed
folks
and
see
what
I
can
do.
B
C
B
A
A
E
B
A
Okay,
perfect
all
right
yeah,
I
just
wasn't
sure
that's
I
just
wanted
to
make
before
so
when
you
were
talking
about
putting
something
in
the
mail.
It's
like.
Let
me
let
me
make
sure
I'm
not
mistaken
before
we
go
burn
any
resources
fixing
something.
A
Okay,
well
in
that
case,
in
that
case,
then
I'm
good
to
go.
Okay,.
B
Good
to
go
so
you'll
start
a
wiki
page,
we'll
go
over
that
we'll
continue
on
this
for
next
friday.
A
Yeah
one
other
one
other
question:
actually,
who
does
who
does
our
twitter
account?
I
do
okay.
There
are
a
lot
of
good
podcasts
on
the
list
that
prefer
to
be.
They
want
you
to
get
in
touch
with
them
on
twitter.
Okay,
so
I
didn't
know
if
that's
something
you
wanted
to
share
access
to
so
josh,
and
I
could
work
on
that.
While
we
build
up
this
university
thing
or
if
that's
just
something
where
you
want
me
to
pull
them
out,
put
them
together
and
forward
them
to
you.
B
No,
you
can
you
can
do
it.
I
can
get
you
get
you
on
there
on
the
okay
on
the
twitter,
so
go
into
our
account
yeah
yeah
yeah.
I
can
do
that.
B
Okay,
I'll
I'll,
send
set
you
up
to
it.
So
you
so
you're
saying
you
want
to
contact
them
as
ose.
A
A
Yeah
then,
then,
we're
set
okay.