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C
Good
busy
with
a
lot
of
stuff,
like
one
thing
we're
doing
right
now,
is
the
steam
camps.
I,
don't
know
if
you've
seen
that
information
on
that,
but
we're
working
on
getting
a
team
together.
So
we
can
run
a
number
of
these
events
in
parallel
early
next
year.
So
that's
the
current
work
also
getting
the
whole
3d
printer
infrastructure,
the
micro
factory
infrastructure
up
and
running
yeah
yeah,
and
we
are
doing
the
event
in
February
and
Belize
the
build
of
the
CB
micro
house
yeah
and
then,
as
far
as
what
we
can
do
here.
C
A
D
B
Do
started
up
a
business
last
year
and
it
actually
didn't
went
very
well
because
my
partner
decided
to
go
off
to
my
patents.
It's
wasn't
really
night
I
developed
a
construction
system
like
a
prefabricated
reconstruction
system,
which
is
a
hybrid,
so
you
have
a
skeleton
of
steel,
reinforced,
concrete
precast,
and
then
you
have
wooden
facade
with
organic
insulation
materials
also
going
over
the
roof
and
then
in
the
interior.
Individual
like
viable
construction.
B
B
B
Is
quite
coming
from
from
studying,
really
really
well
since
it
is
you
know
you
have
to
you
have
to
think
like
that
before
you
start
doing
that,
and
you
know
people
changing
their
minds.
I
mean
we
have
this
with
I'm
change
debate
all
over
the
place
is
kind
of
difficult,
because
people
people
go
through
the
life
mainly
have
like
certain
beliefs
and
like
just
going
with
science,
or
in
this
case
also
engineering,
and
just
accept
that
certain
things
are
not,
as
you
believe,
and
probably
a
different
way
is
better
to
do.
B
C
Yeah
now
is
that
how
you
found
out
about
open
building
Institute
through
work
on
like
modular
construction,
or
how
did
you
find
out
about
us
actually.
B
I
followed
you
guys
through
my
political
occupation,
I'm
former
member
of
a
wall
street
in
Germany,
I
was
organizing
rallies
and
you
know
I
go
I
question
a
lot
of
stuff
and
then
and
tag
into
alternatives,
and
also
what's
bad
and
worse
in
the
world,
how
to
fix
it.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
yeah
and
I
came
to
came
across
riot
at
GD
yeah.
B
B
The
main
issue
is
not
money
or
willingness,
it
is
mainly
knowledge
and
it's
that's
what
the
Western
societies
are
hiding
from
people
who
are
actually
in
need
and
also
I,
must
say:
I'm
half
Cuban,
so
my
mom
is
actually
just
Reem
I
graded
to
Cuba
and
starting
over
she's
having
her
home
set
from
our
family
and
there's
nothing
right
now,
so,
except
for
some
arms
and
she's
starting
all
over
and
I.
You
know:
I
have
a
personal
connection
to
these
whole
ideas.
B
I
know
how
bad
it
is
in
some
parts
of
the
world
and
I
know
how
great
these
people
are.
So
it's
not
like
people
are
like
stupid
or
I.
Don't
know
they're
just
sometimes
they're,
just
simply
pouring
they're
fighting
for
like
everyday
needs,
but
they're
they
have
the
ability
to
thrive
and
I
want
to
participate
and
help
them
yeah.
C
B
It
is
so
you
know
my
mom
is
a
special
person
she's,
like
I'd,
say,
she's
really
intelligent,
but
at
the
same
time
she's
also
really
special,
so
she's,
an
artist
before
that
she
was
like
I
know
how
to
explain
it
like.
She
did
basically
business
with
also
construction
and
she
was
like
accounting
and
whatnot
right.
B
It's
called
cow
Oh
in
German
like
the
sellers
and
people
taking
care
of
the
books
so
whatnot,
but
the
problem
is
in
Germany.
There's
like
you
know
they
they
invited
or
they
let
in
like.
C
That's
thank
you.
Cutting
out
a
little
bit.
C
C
B
B
Resentments
of
springing
up-
and
you
know,
they're
all
criminals
and
they're
all
right-
I
mean
you
know
this
whole
yeah,
but
this
created
like
a
atmosphere
on
one
side.
On
the
other
side,
the
main
part
actually
is
that
trouble
with
her
business
at
a
certain
time
and
usually
in
Germany,
you
have
social
security
network,
which
is
like
100
years
old
already
so,
like
a
hundred
years
ago,
people
really
fought
with
the
labor
unions
and
whatnot,
so
people
which
don't
have
work,
get
support
and
their
basic
human
needs
are
cared
for.
Yeah.
A
B
In
the
late
90s
beginning
2000,
there
were
certain
governments
who
cut
it
down
or
which
cut
down
on
that
also,
they
started
forcing
people
to
do
stuff
for
really
cheap
money,
which
they
actually
didn't
want
to
do.
And
if
you,
if
you
were
unfortunate
enough
to
do,
I,
get
sick
for
certain
amount
of
time,
especially
site
of
psychological,
because
then
the
normal
doctor
can
just
write
you
off.
Then
you
have.
B
My
mom
actually
decided
also
my
brother
and
me
we're
old
enough
to
live
on
our
own
right
now,
so
my
mom
decided
to
go
back
where
people
a
little
bit
more
lighthearted
and
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
constructive
or
not
like
destructive
and
not
not
I
know
I
mean
they
also
have
like
socialist
government,
which
is
not
nice
to
a
lot
of
people,
but
at
least
they
leave
the
people
alone.
You
know
and
then
that's
that's
a
lot.
Yeah.
A
C
B
C
I
mean,
in
my
view,
that
seems
like
it's
the
last
stronghold
of
all
this
all
this
conservative
poverty,
like
basically
poor,
basically
politicians
taking
advantage
of
poor
people
to
become
essentially
or
neo-fascist
you
fascists
of
today,
but
I
think
as
the
abundance
economy
or
open
source
comes
in.
That's
the
antidote,
as
always
has
been,
but
no
one
knows
about
open
source
hardware.
Yet
so
it's
a
hard
game,
yeah,
so
yeah!
That's
why
we're
doing
open
hardware,
stuff,
I,
think
I,
don't
know!
I
am
we're
doing
this
one
thing
just
just
so.
C
You
know
like
a
major
initiative
next
year,
we're
we're
doing
an
incentive
challenge
to
do
a
cordless
drill.
That's
a
3d,
printed,
professional-grade,
cordless
drill
that
demonstrates
the
power
of
a
collaborative
development
method.
So
if
that
actually
works,
and
that
will
be
noticed
by
the
economy
as
okay
now
open
source
can
be
a
viable
way
to
design
products.
C
Our
goal
is
to
transition
from
proprietary
to
collaborative
development
across
the
board
as
far
as
society
goes,
but
we
need
a
good
example,
so
we're
trying
to
we're
gonna
try
to
go
for
a
good
example
where
this
is
actually
a
viewable
business.
We
can
hire
a
number
of
people
and
then
really
show
an
impact
in
one
segment
of
this
of
the
economy.
So
we'll
see
a
3d
printer
printers
have
done
that
already,
but
nobody
noticed
so.
B
B
In
German,
car
makers
have
minus
5%
on
general
sales
and
the
only
German
carmaker
which
is
not
having
that
is
Porsche
because
they,
they
came
out,
came
up
with
electric
Porsche
and
they
have
like
30,000
orders
already
and
whatnot,
so
that
I
think
it
kind
it
is
similar
to
to
this
electrical
issue.
It's
the
same
issue
again
like
what
I
talked
about
before
people
have
trouble
to
think
and
change.
What
they're
doing
you
know,
but
I'm,
pretty
confident
about
the
salsa
yeah.
B
B
The
faculties
so
to
make
like
open
source
projects
which
can
go
into
the
hole
in
the
hole
of
your
business
as
to
say,
and
they
could
contribute
hugely
and
I.
I'm,
really
I'm,
really
positive
about
that,
and
also
as
soon
as
I
understand
you
guys
how
you
work
and
whatnot
I
would
like
to
go
there
and
have
a
talk
with
the
professors
you
have
to
make
sure
thing
they
could.
They
could
create
like
semester
works
or,
like
even
two
semester
works
for
this
area.
Yeah.
C
I
mean,
of
course,
it's
possible,
but
the
missing
link,
in
my
view,
is
once
again
the
interest
of
the
professor
like
for
for
one
it's
a
psychological
barrier.
They
don't
see
anything
about
the
feasibility
of
open
hardware
like
as
a
vehicle
development
method.
They
they
get
confused.
So
unless
you
have
the
kind
of
a
culture,
it's
it's
so
foreign
to
people
like
that.
The
simple
idea
that
oh
we're
gonna
collaborate
it,
and
especially
because
the
way
it
works
right
now,
whoever
they're
getting
paid
by
everyone,
is
proprietary
and
military.
C
So
the
culture
for
the
culture
to
spread
it's
it's
just
a
hard
one,
so
so
yeah.
Of
course
we
will
change
it,
but
I'm
saying
we're
probably
like
in
terms
of
a
societal
shift.
It
sort
of
take
a
generation,
as
in
the
old
people
dying
off,
I
mean
that's.
How
any
kind
of
transformation
seems
to
happen
in
science,
at
least
in
science.
C
They
say
you
don't
push
a
new
idea
on
to
the
population,
the
simply
that
the
old
generation
dies
and
the
new
idea
can
take
hold
I
mean
it's
I,
see
it
literally,
as
that
I'm
not
being
pessimistic.
I'm
extremely
optimistic
that
this
is
gonna,
be
a
cascade
to
the
next
economy
pretty
soon
but
and
I
don't
want
to
discourage.
You
of
course,
have
those
conversations,
but
we
haven't
found
that
to
be
a
good
thing.
So
far,
there's
only
a
few
examples.
C
So
it's
it's
been
even
though,
for
the
people
that
are
and
open
source
academics
they
can't
they
can't
work
openly
because
whatever
they're
doing
they're
still
competing
for
grants,
and
they
cannot
invite
outsiders
by
publishing
openly
until
they've
got
the
product
and
they're
done,
which
is
limited,
abuse.
I
mean
especially
not
I
mean
just
to
give
you
a
specific
example:
it's
like
okay,
so
we
take
the
product,
but
we
had
no
say
in
how
its
developed
and,
of
course,
there's
gonna
be
bugs.
We
could
have
called
them
beforehand.
If
we
collaborate
it.
You.
A
B
It
seemed
to
freeze
once
in
a
while
it
does
um-hmm
yeah.
Let
me
tell
you
Germany
or
probably
also
Europe
in
this
regard
is
different.
Since
yeah
the
University
are
100.
Universities
are
100%
state-funded,
oh
yeah,
so
so
you
don't
have
this
kind
of
environment
here.
Obviously
they're
pushing
universities
now
to
Americanize
a
little
bit
but
I
mean
like
we
have
like
in
the
lead
university
system
and
they
I
compete
against
each
other
and
they.
B
Especially
for
the
first
semester
since
the
first
semesters
are
really
basic,
stuff
and
I.
Think
the
basic
stuff
is
exactly
what
most
people
out
there
need,
so
I
actually
am
really
positive
and
also
what
Elon
Musk
is
doing
with
his
eye
holes
called
Hyperloop
system,
so
he's
doing
competitions,
open
competitions
with
the
universities.
You
mainly
have
European
universities
competing
there,
I,
don't
know
if
you
looked
at
that,
but
home
actually
winning
winning
there
yeah
because
they
are
open
for
that.
B
So
I
think
I
think
if
you
find
it
really
like
interesting
pieces
to
do
for
the
students
like
where
they
are
need
to
be
innovative,
but
at
the
same
time
have
like
the
basic
stuff
they
learn.
While
doing
that,
I
think
we
have
great
chances
of
getting
great
work
from
these
people.
We.
B
Also
put
the
put
the
whole
open-source
idea
in
out
there.
You
know
so
people.
Actually
it's
there
I
think
the
main
problem
in
Germany
is
most
people
don't
know,
except
for
some
geeks.
You
know
we
also
have
like
make
or
fam
and
whatnot
how
it's
called
and
from
Dresden
besides
yeah
resident
East
Germany,
and
we
also
have
make
a
fab
and
make
a
track.
B
C
B
Exactly
but
I
think,
first
of
all,
I
mean
it.
Students
come
first
always
because
it's
for
the
students
yeah,
but
especially
in
the
summertime,
are
like
in
between
semesters,
and
you
really
want
to
do
something
specific,
especially
with
the
3d
printing.
For
example.
We
have
product
designers
at
the
University
of
Applied
Sciences
and
read,
listen
and
they
have
like.
C
B
B
B
Wood
workshops,
it's
amazing
what
they
all
have
and
okay
I
in
between
the
semesters,
especially
when
there's
time
and
when
there's
not
too
much
students
around
you
are
basically
able
to
cooperate
with
the
university
and
do
like
community
projects
or
open-source
projects
in
this
regard
Wow.
But
we
also
have
like
a
huge
neh.
Let's,
let's
call
an
open-source
hop
actually
I,
don't
have
have
the
proper
name
in
my
mind.
I
can
I
send
you
later
they
have
like
an
old
factory
building
and
there
they
have
also
like
wood
workshop.
B
E
C
Write
a
you,
you
said
it
like
Hyperloop
incentive
challenges,
that's
the
way
we
want
to
go
and
an
idea
of
the
steam
camps
that
we're
doing
right
now
is
to
get
funding.
So
we
can
keep
pumping
money
into
incentive
challenges
because
for
the
cordless
drill,
we're
gonna
put
up
a
$250,000
prize
and
that.
B
A
B
Yeah,
so
that's
the
name
and
that's
the
Facebook
site
yeah.
Actually,
that's
a
citizen
initiative
with
a
huge
workshops
as
well
and
3d
printers
they're
doing
project
with
the
community
in
Dresden,
they're,
actually
starting
to
change
or
even
city
politics.
In
this
regard,
so
they're
doing
like
room
conference
every
year
about
creative
use
of
empty
spaces
or
the
need
of
empty
spaces
for
create
creatives
such
as
arches,
but
also
like
you
know,
open-source
people
and
generally
people
to
to
explore.
C
B
Doesn't
make
a
space
and
it
is
a
public
neighborhood
make
a
space,
yes
yeah
and
it's
also
a
cooperative,
because
you
have
lot
of
people
there.
Dresden
is
a
city
like
with
the
general
metropolitan
area,
is
like
1.5
million
people,
something
1.6
million,
and
you
can
imagine
if
you
have
one
maker
space
in
the
city,
you
have
a
lot
of
people
participating
a
lot
of
alternative
people,
but
also
just
like
mom's
doing
some
works
for
their
babies.
You
know
it's
a
really
cool
community
I,
like
it
nice.
C
C
C
That's
the
curriculum,
if
you
go
into
that
document
at
the
top
click
on
that
a
couple
of
times,
and
it's
actually
shows
you
more
pictures
of
what
the
things
look
like
like
universal
access,
plus
universal
controller
equals
3d
printer
and
then
some
very
modular
machines
with
interchangeable
tool,
heads
highly
modular
and
scalable.
Now,
there's
a
little
bit
of
product
development
involved
in
this.
Do
you
have
any
suggestions
on
finding
product
designers
like
because
we
never
worked
a
lot
with
explicitly
with
product
designers?
A
B
Love
these
people
they're,
like
the
most
open-minded
people,
I
know
at
this
university,
so
I
think
if
you
prepare
something
for
me
for
them
to
show
or
to
ask
them
for
then
they
will
do
it.
I
guess:
I
will
fight,
I
mean
I,
know
someone
who
is
working
there
as
well
in
the
faculty,
so
I
have
a
foot
in
the
door
step
is.
B
E
B
Yes,
yes,
yes,
it's
a
it's
actually,
one
of
the
wealth,
most
well-funded
faculties
of
the
University.
It's
also
one
of
the
I.
Don't
know
how
many
are
there
in
German,
all
of
Germany,
but
I
think
is
like
I
five
or
six
design
faculties
for
product
and
industrial
design
and
all
all
of
Germany.
So
it's
actually
kinda
elite.
You
know
at
the
same
time,
people
are
really
cool,
really
open-minded
and
not
snobby.
C
B
So
the
backgrounds
backgrounds
basically
are
different,
but
the
University
I'm
talking
off
also
is
called
University
of
economic
and
technology,
economics
and
technology.
So
this
University
of
Applied,
Sciences
and
president
is
a
really
practical
oriented
University.
So
the
design
students
really
learn
to
understand
technology
they're
designing
for
so
actually
at
the
end
of
the
studies,
you're
not
just
like
designing
something
in
a
look
but
they're,
also
creating
new
scenes
new
product
they're,
creating
workflows
to
creating
you
know,
they're
they're
way
more
advanced.
Also,
we
have
like
the
biggest
university
in
our
city.
B
It's
called
tu,
dresden,
like
Technical
University,
don't
read
them
and
they
have
an
industrial
design
faculty
you
funny
enough.
It
is
hooked
up
to
the
Machine
machine.
Engineers,
make
mechanical
engineers
and
they're
even
more
practical,
even
more
looking
into
the
like
mechanical
aspect,
but
I
don't
know
them
yet
so
I
would
have
to
awesome,
for
you
guys,
ok,
but.
C
B
C
B
B
It
is
expensive
to
have
your
own
design
division,
especially
if,
if
you
want
it
to
be
good,
so
the
good
designers
know
they
are
good
and
they
tend
to
know
also
how
to
make
good
money
with
it.
Working
for
different
customers.
Also,
most
of
the
designers
are
way
too
intelligent
way
too
bright
to
just
do
the
same
thing
over
and
over
again,
so
they
really
like
to
do
different
projects
once
in
a
while.
C
Seems
like
with
Silicon
Valley
and
adeno,
like
Amazon,
say
Bell
Labs
historically
I
mean
all
those
people
had
in-house
seems
like
in
America.
It's
more
in-house
like
if
there's
a
look
well-known
company
like
Bose,
okay,
I,
just
read
an
article
about
Bose
speakers
and
audio
seems
like
it's
all
in
the
house
or
like
okay,
general
General,
Motors,
yeah,
I.
Think
all
those
people
are
in-house.
There's
no
people
freelancing
because
they
they'd
steal
the
secret
I,
don't
know
whatever
they'll
steal
the
secrets
or
something
I.
C
C
B
B
I
mean,
obviously,
if
you,
if
you,
if
it
gets,
comes
to
great
big
companies
like
BMW,
receives
bands
Volkswagen.
They
all
have
their
own
design
division
because
they
can
afford
it.
But
most
of
the
companies
which
are
not
that
big
don't
afford
it.
They
might
have
some
like
layout
designers,
doing
their
brochure.
B
Just
give
you
an
example:
also
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
you
might
have
in-house
design
divisions,
especially
the
car
manufactures,
did
actually
take
in
agencies,
so
they
have
a
gig.
They
want
to
create
like
a
new
product
or
a
new
car
line.
Then
they
realize
okay.
We
have
these
guys
or
doing
the
same
thing
for
like
10
years.
Now,
all
these
it's
good
to
have
someone
new
in
yeah
and
then
they
come
to
come
through
frog
design
or
other
big
design
agencies
even
from
Germany
or
Japan,
and
invite
them.
B
C
B
This
is
difficult
to
say:
I.
Think
you
get
away
with
a
freelancer
with
like
80
to
120,
depending
on
how
hooked
eat
the
person
is
or
how
fresh
she
is
in
the
business
or
I
was
personal.
Cost
structure
is
working,
I
think
rather
more
120
euros.
And
if
you
go
for
the
big
design
agencies,
you
go
somewhere,
250
260
of
yours
even
more,
even
more,
depending
on
the
task
and
how
much
you
can
make
with
it.
So
they
are
adjusting
their
adjusting
for
your
for
your
cost.
B
If
your
person
or
like
a
business
which
cannot
afford
like
huge
sums,
they
they
will
make
you
like
a
general
offer,
and
they
say
ok-
and
this
is
how
much
of
a
cause
this
is
inside
and
we
can
make
like
three
versions
and
then
off
we
go.
We
have
fixed
price
and
for
the
big
companies
they
they
don't
care.
You
know,
they're,
mostly
just
saying
give
us
a
cool
product
which
is
selling
men's,
lift
immensely,
so
they're,
not
caring
too
much
and.
C
A
B
B
For
the
2d
area,
it
works
pretty
good,
so
you
get
really
cool
good
results
because
talent
is
spread
throughout
all
humankind,
so
you
find
good
designers,
passionate
designers,
passion,
passion
is
massively
important
design
and
you'll
find
them
everywhere.
You
know,
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
finding
them.
Yeah.
B
Hopefully,
even
less
could
be
possible,
the
person
decides
well,
it's
a
cool
project.
It
could
be
possible,
the
person
is
not
having
I
can
I
can
huge
office
or
something,
but
they
have
just
their
like
home
office
and
they
have
good
projects
going
on.
So
probably
they
say,
high
school
project
I
want
to
support
it.
I
just
go
for
the
bare
minimum
and
then
they
say
50
euros.
That
could
be
very
real
possible,
but
I
cannot.
B
B
Stir
it's
a
huge
huge
community
and
one
just
have
to
ask
I
actually
actually
ascended
you
Matthias
Euler.
That's
like
one
of
the
lead
leading
heads
of
the
kunkuma
lot.
Fo
is
the
founder
one
of
the
founders,
so
I
would
ask
him.
Basically
if
you
need
something
prepared
and
I
asked
my
designers
and
I
would
ask
this
community
as
well.
Ok,.
B
C
C
I'll,
take
a
look
at
the
invitation.
I
sent
you
in
the
link
and
I.
The
question
is
so
we're
running
these
steam
camps
and
I
was
asking
if
in
Germany,
people
would
pay
for
immersion
education,
like
that
in
a
steam
camp
which
is
a
nine-day
immersion
and
to
digital
fabrication
and
basically
open-source
product
design,
yeah.
C
B
The
people
are
on
the
people
around
Matt,
Matias,
actually
mmm-hmm,
that's
the
right
people
for
you,
and
you
know
one
of
them
is
willing
to
do
it
because
they
all
have
their
own
projects
going
there
I
trust
them
to
find
someone
who
is
willing
and
able
to
do
that.
Okay,
all
right!
So
if
you
want
to
write
them,
I
will
hook
him
up
and
tell
them
that
I
recommended
him.
This
cooperation
and
cooperation,
cooperative
and
I
think
then
you
will
write
you
willing
me
and
then
you
can
just
interchange,
yeah.
B
C
B
Hey
tell
me:
Martin,
you
have
a
polish
name.
My
were
born
in
Poland.
B
C
Opinion
I
think
the
different
view
is
the
idea
that
I
came
from
a
country
that
was
materially
deprived
and
I
saw
the
prosperity
in
America
and
I
started
question.
Why
is
it
so
different
and
now
I
think
fundamentally
about
material
abundance
is
something
that
we
need
to
solve
for
society,
therefore
going
to
evolve
as
humans,
so
yeah.
It
was
the
idea
that
tanks
were
rolling
down
my
street
and
we
didn't
have.
A
C
B
A
B
A
C
It
is
it
actually
like
a
fab,
Fab
Lab
type
space
with
Fab
Lab
equipment
like
meaning
and
power,
part
of
the
Academy
stuff
or
no.
C
A
A
C
B
B
C
Have
to
see
yeah
cuz,
what
I
was
thinking
is
so
I
want
to
get
a
bunch
of
instructors
there
and
pay
em,
something
that
works,
but
I
would
say
like
two
weeks.
C
B
E
A
B
Yeah
I
actually
love
that
I
also
can
tell
you
you
know
what
I
need
to
go
somewhere.
I
need
to
go
for
the
house,
cold
refreshment
room
for
like
five
to
ten
minutes.
Okay,.
D
B
A
B
C
Great
I'm
communicating
with
him
on
the
chat
but
see
if
he's
available,
I
want
to
talk
to
them
as
soon
as
I
can,
because
this
is
I'm
doing
that
full-time
right
now,
trying
to
get
the
team
together
and
get
all
the
products
designed.
But
did
you
take
a
look
at
the
what's
actually
included
in
that
in
the
curriculum
you.
C
B
B
But
it's
real
because
you
have
a
shitload
of
chip
produced
this
year.
You
have
like
Global
Foundries,
you
have
I
think,
oh,
my
goodness
like
in
I'm,
not
I,
don't
know
the
names,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
like
software
startups
around
here,
like
Germany
for
really
big
ones
or,
for
example,
like
one
of
the
famous
ones
like
Levu,
it's
like
second
after
tinder
and
the
in
this
whole
dating
market
and
worldwide,
so
they're
sitting
in
Dresden
in
the
center
of
Dresden.
B
B
Really
depends
on
who
is
organizing
it,
but
my
best
friend
Madame
sis
love
is
organizing
it
or
was
organizing
in
a
Dresden
and
what's
the
first
guy
to
do
so,
and
it's
an
amazing
experience.
You
have
54
hours
to
you,
have
like
a
general
idea
or
product
and
in
this
54
hours
you
have
a
ragtag
group
of
people
coming
together,
which
generally
just
like
the
oil
idea
or
product
they're
there
they
come
there.
They
don't
know
what
you
then,
what
they
will
do
in
the
whole
weekend,
except
for
the
idea
convert.
B
And
then
you
have
talents
like
a
business,
guys
and
girls.
You
have
designers,
you
have
engineers,
you
have
a
2d
design.
You
have
programmers
they're
all
coming
to
this
weekend's
and
when
your
idea,
when
it's
generally
accepted-
and
you
have
like
four
to
five
people
like
grouping
around
this
idea-
even
more-
then
you
have
this
group
and
you
do
prototype
prototyping.
You
do
business
prototyping
to
be
intercept,
so
you
create
the
whole
business
idea
in
one
weekend
and
it
should
be
viable
and
you
have
coaches
around
experienced
business,
guys
and
girls.
B
You
have
professors
around
for
specific
parts.
You
have
tutors
for
I,
don't
know
design
tutorial
program.
Is
you
can
actually,
as
a
team,
you
can
book
them
for
free,
just
say:
okay,
I
want
this.
Guy
I
want
this
girl
I,
want
them
and
I
want
the
input
of
these
people.
For
my
idea
and
this
whole
concept
of
startup
weekend
Manek
it
is,
it
is
just
it
is
just
love.
You
know
it's
just
a
fit
to
the
whole
open-source
idea
you
guys
are
going
after
that.
It's
just
one
link
in
my
opinion,
is
it's.
B
The
startup
weekend,
actually
is
you
pay.
A
fee
of
the
fee
is
just
for
the
general
costs
you
you're,
not
paying
I
do
you're,
not
paying
the
to
trust,
you're,
not
paying
the
professor's.
You
don't
pay
the
coaches,
you
have
sponsors
going,
you
have
the
Kauffman
Foundation
and
Google
helping
out
with
it,
and
it
is
actually
an
initiative
to
show
young
people
and
show
students
and
show
also
you
have
creative
freelancers
to
show
them.
E
B
With
a
team
already
made
know
you,
you
can
come
with
a
small
team,
I
mean
if
you
have
ten
people.
Obviously
you
shouldn't
attend
with
ten
people,
because
the
whole
idea
is
to
get
into
new
ideas.
You
don't
know
about
and
just
grab
it
look
through.
Look
it
through
test
such
tests.
Yeah
dear
God,
on
the
street,
talk
to
people
about
yeah.
Would
you
like
to
buy
this
product
or
you
know,
do
you
have
this
problems?
B
Well,
how
would
you
like
to
have
it
solved
and
then
you
go
back
in
and
you
do
prototyping
and
then
you
go
back
out
on
the
streets
and
we
have
earlier
you
to
say:
okay,
people.
This
is
my
idea,
but
you
think
about
that.
You
call
companies
probably
and
ask
them.
Well,
we
have
this
this
net
problem
and
at
the
end
of
this
weekend
you
have
a
ready-made
business
plan.
We
have
you
know-
and
this
is
this
is
not
not
commercially
interesting
enough.
B
Mostly,
actually
not,
but
it
this
is
not
about
starting
these
businesses.
It
is
more
about
learning
how
to
do
it
and
then
apply
it
for
your
own
life.
For
your
own
projects.
Learning
this
whole
team
building
I
mean
54
hours.
You
build
a
team,
you
build
a
product,
you
build
the
idea,
you
build
a
business
plan
and
then
you
could
go
and
go
out
and
do
it.
B
C
B
And
but
you
still
have
this
like
I'd,
say
like
10%,
ten
to
twenty
percent
depending
on
the
event
and
the
people
attending.
You
know
you
cannot
generalize
all
the
time,
but
somewhere
around
10
to
20
percent
are
actually
going
after
this
business
idea,
which
is
really
good,
and
then
they
stick
with
it.
You
can.
You
can
see
that
I
mean
we.
We
have
there's
like
three
or
four
years
now
and
dress--I,
and
so
we
got
we
kind
of
have
some
kind
of
statistics
about
that.
C
I'm
in
Dresden-
yes,
so
do
you
think,
like
just
start
so
so
I
mean,
for
example,
the
steam
camp?
If
okay
like
practically
now,
if
I
wanted
to
develop
some
of
the
curriculum
for
steam
camp
I
mean
there's,
there's
some
highly
technical
knowledge
there,
like
people,
have
to
be
pretty
familiar
with
stuff
I
mean,
am
I
gonna
find
that
kind
of
town
people
showing
up
or
yeah.
B
But
you
obviously
you
always
have
a
team
organizing
it
so
teams
changing
every
year.
It's
mostly
students
are
helping
to
organize,
except
for
some
staff,
which
is
always
there
and
yeah,
and
then
it
depends
who
you
ask.
You
know
you're
actually
kind
of
actively
asking
specific
communities,
because
you
want
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
designers.
You
want
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
programmers
and
so
on.
So
you
have
against
one
part,
which
is
like
random,
which
is
people
who
want
to
attend,
but
you
also
make
sure
you
talk
to
specific
groups
right.
B
So
in
this
case
you
would
like
to
talk
or
you
try
to
talk
to
the
engineer
community
in
Dresden
or
in
Germany
or
whatnot,
and
so
you
have
to
you,
have
one
person
going
after
the
engine
list
and
then,
if
the
person
is
calling
the
professors,
the
person's
calling
your
risk
is
all
over
Germany.
For
example,
if
you
really
want
to
make
it
big
or
just
make
sure,
there's
a
lot
of
engineers
and
goes
for
your
receipt,
and
you
have
like
some
kind
of
I
think
it's
called
student
councils
in
in
English.
B
So,
like
students,
organizations
for
the
engineering
so
and
then
you
go
there
and
also
ask
them
and
yeah:
can
you
talk
to
the
students
as
well
and
sometimes
they're
pretty
events
and
the
people,
organizing
the
whole
thing
going
on
the
events
for
mechanical
engineers
and
then
just
talk
there
or
probably
find
a
professor
who's
willing
to?
Let
them
talk
to
the
students
it's
actually.
We
also
did
this
already
and
then
you
can
pitch
the
whole
idea
to
the
whole
students,
a
whole
room
of
students.
B
C
Depending
if
we
found
the
talented
people
that
can
come
to
this,
then
yes,
we
can
get
some
work
done,
but
is
there
like?
That's
all
your
responsibility
right,
you
have
to
make
sure
those
people
end
up
there
or
also
because
there's
other
teams
there
that
I
mean
do
people
just
attend
that
like
just
to
go
there
like
without
an
invitation.
C
B
You
have
you
have
invitation,
I
mean
you,
don't
invite.
Actually
you
don't
go
and
say:
okay,
you're,
a
mechanical
engineer,
I
like
you
to
attend
event.
You
also
do
that
like
on
a
personal
level,
but
actually
you
just
make
sure
you
talk
to
specific
groups
of
people
and
then
from
this
specific
groups
of
people.
We
have
people
attending
who
really
like
well
interested,
and
then
you
have
you.
B
Let's
let's
say
you
have
one
third
is
it's
like
that
and
you
have
one
third
random
people
and
then
you
even
might
have
up
to
one
third
of
people
coming
from
the
international
startup
community
from
Berlin
from
Netherlands
from
London
we
had
people
from
London
from
Prague
because
they
like
perform
at.
They
really
want
to
know
new
people,
new
city
and
then
come
over
and
just
participate
as
well.
B
Well,
as
I
said,
it
depends
on
the
group
organizing
it.
Usually,
you
have
some
private
initiatives,
some
like
students,
initiative
for
just
generally
enterprise
or
range
initiatives,
and
they
organize
it
and
when
they
organize
it
has
happens
in
some
communities
it
happens
twice
or
even
like
four
times
a
year,
and
it
sums
in
some
communities
that
just
happens
one
time
every
two
years
or
something
it
just
depends.
You
know.
E
B
You
also
had
like
different
kind
of
events,
bring
up
from
this
whole
thing.
You
know,
as
I
said,
people
go
home
and
make
their
own
stuff,
and
then
you
have
like
have
you
had
have
hackathons
with
the
similar
idea
you
had
like
for
specific
businesses
related
events.
We
even
have
coaches.
You
had
like
the
people
organizing
this
data,
because
some
of
them
are
coaches
now
in
doing
this
inside
of
companies,
so
it's
really
cool
what
is
evolve
there?
So
it's
not
just
you
know
such
as
this
weekend.
It's
just
putting
the
seed
out
there,
yeah.
B
Well,
I
think
it
is
best
to
start
one
year
in
advance
if
you
want
to
be
like
chill,
if
you
don't
want
to
like
kill
yourself
and
also
you
need
a
group
of
people
around
six
to
twelve,
probably
more
I
mean
when
the
event
happens,
to
need
more
hands.
You
know
you
have
like
with
more
hands
you
approaches,
but
organizing
teams
should
be
minimum
six
people,
you
can
do
it
with
less,
but
it's
like
it's
really
hardcore
and
it's
awkward
so
try
to
have
six
to
twelve
people.
Try
to
start
one
year
before.
B
B
Your
conception
less
when
you
know
what
kind
of
theme
you
have
you
stopped
approaching.
Communities
start
approaching
possible
sponsors.
So
it's
really
big
art.
You
need
to
have
one
or
two
persons
doing
the
sponsor
part
full-time
or
like
on
full-time,
but
you
know
next
like
how
to
say
that's
their
job.
In
that
event,
okay,
that's
their
job
to
tend
to
the
sponsors.
Find
sponsors
create
like
before
that
you
need
to
create
like
sponsoring
packages.
So
when
you
go
for
Startup
Weekend
and
cry
there
and
say
yeah
we're
a
local
group
won't
do.
B
Then
we
want
to
do
it
about
technology
and
open
source.
Then
they
provide
you
with
typical
sponsor
packages,
so
you
have
something
to
work
with
and
then
you
need
to
create
unique
packages.
You
need
to
tend
to
them.
You
need
to
meet
them,
and
actually
you
can
even
make
more
money,
so
you
can
start
financing
the
following
year
with
it.
So
it's
actually
because
there
are
a
lot
of
companies
out
there.
They
like
to
be
seen
by
young
people,
they
like
to
be
like
to
be
present,
and
sometimes
they
just
like
your
idea.
B
They
just
like
the
idea
of
startup
again
you
just
like
the
idea
of
the
open-source
community
or
just
what
you're
doing
and
all
these
possible
sponsors
are
willing
to
give
money,
and
it
could
start
with
like
just
counselling
company,
it's
just
doing,
counseling
or
just
doing
accountants
shuts
off
you,
you,
you
might
not
think
of
it,
but
the
the
business
leader
might
like
your
idea.
So
it
is
a
lot
of
work,
but
is
it's
worth
it
actually
yeah.
B
You
create
like
ticket
tickets,
you
have
different
ticket
packages,
so
general
release.
We
can
you
try
to
get
sponsorship,
so
you
have
the
rooms
covered,
so
you
have
a
so
rent
room,
rent
coverage.
You
have
the
coaches,
so
minimum
would
be
to
have
the
travel
expenses
for
the
coaches,
probably
hotel
hostel
costs
and
it's
not
small
pockets,
money
I,
don't
know
just
I,
don't
know
because
many
people
attend
is
gorgeous
because
he
liked
the
idea
and
there's.
B
B
Yeah
you
just
pay
the
expensive
Sunday
come
some
cultures
expect,
for
example,
you
want
to
have
a
specific
coach.
You
suggest
an
awesome
guy
he's
doing
great
work.
Whatever
he's
doing,
and
you
decided
as
a
team,
okay.
Well,
we
gonna
pay
this
guy.
You
know
we
got
to
pay
him
a
little
of
a
fee
to
come.
Just
like
I
know
it.
B
It's
also
not
much
sometimes
just
like
for
whole
weekend,
it's
like
six
euros
a
day
or
something
that's
what
I
meant
with
the
pocket
money,
it's
not
much
or
probably
even
five
or
six
hundred
years.
It
might
open
follows
in
this
case.
It
might
be
worth
it
because
you
are,
you
have
like
a
coach
yeah
and
also
you
also
have.
B
If
you
find
sponsors
from
the
technology
area,
you
can
also
ask
them
to
be
coaches,
and
then
it
could
be
part
of
the
coach
of
the
sponsorship
because
they
get
also
a
personal
contact
with
talents
with
possible
new
boys.
That's
that's
a
benefit.
You
know
yeah
also.
It
is
the
benefit
to
to
actually
as
a
human
being,
to
show
the
experience
to
share
the
experience
and
they
like
that.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
opportunity.
There
mmm-hmm.
E
C
B
You
have
to
I
think
I
think
you
have
to
apply
as
a
local
group.
It's
rather
simple,
I
looked
I
will
sent
you
decide,
I,
just
sended,
you
just
a
video
to
get
an
general
impression
about
how
it
works.
It's
a
cool
video
from
Toronto
I
think
startup
week
in
Toronto
and
now
I'm.
Looking
up
the
main
page.
B
There
we
go,
it's
called
Startup,
Weekend,
org
I
sent
you
the
link.
Now
there
you
go
so
it's
generally,
it's
really
easy,
but
obviously
they
have.
They
have
also.
There
are
guidelines
because
they
want
to
make
sure
it
is
a
good
experience
for
the
attendees.
So
it's
understandable
in
my
opinion,
but
I
see
no
trouble
with
it.
Probably
you
could
just
do
one
to
get
used
to
it,
and
then
you
create
your
own
event
out
of
it.
It
could
be
also
possible.
You
know,
as
I
said,
that's
what
people
did
address
them.
B
C
B
So
you
have
websites
like
competition,
online
or
design.
Let's
talk
about
eugenicists,
more
fitting
for
you,
you
seen
as
a
design
block
yeah.
So
you
you
need
to
look
up
the
this
blocks
because
you
did
the
specific
group
you
want
to
target
deal.
Reading
these
articles,
you
know
they're,
for
free
their
daily
and
design.
B
Also
is
open
for
your
ideas
like
that
you,
so
you
can
get
the
article
there
and
then
you
actually
attend
already
to
the
group
you
want
to
attend
to
then
you
have
students
mainly
or
like
young
designers,
and
they
might
be
hooked
and
they
might
join
and
I.
Don't
know
how
much
people
are
reading
zine,
but
it's
a
shitload
of
them.
We
have
architects,
we
have
designers,
you
even
have
tech
geeks
reading
it
so
go
ahead
and
find
these
magazines
and
these
blocks
and.
C
B
C
A
B
Popular
Mechanics
is
one
of
them.
Do
you
know
that
one
yeah.
B
C
B
C
B
No,
no!
No!
No!
You
want
to
attempt
you
want
to
tend
to
the
journalist
of
these
magazines,
so
they
make
an
article
of
your
ID
or
of
your
event.
Okay
and
the
readers
actually
see
it.
That's
the
whole
point
or
this
online
magazine
what
not
okay,
I
I,
just
looked
up
some
stuff
for
you,
I
think
it's
actually
also
American
I
mean.
D
B
C
B
C
B
Every
profession,
you
have
some
kind
of
organization,
so
I
bet
with
you.
If
I
google,
now
for
designers,
United
or
something
like
that,
you
you
will
find
some
organization
of
both
designers
and
you
you
need
to
ask
them
this.
Actually
designers,
United
initiative.
Look
at
that!
That's
interesting,
so
you
need
to
ask
them
and
challenge.
Well,
it's
a
community
project.
What
not
can
you
recommend
people
do
you
know
people
and
they
always
know
people.
They
know
their
members.
You
know.
B
But
you
could
also
ask
companies
if
you
have
a
product
or
like
a
product
like
a
car
or
like
a
machine.
You
really
like.
You,
can
just
simply
ask
the
company
if
they
can
tell
you
about
the
designer,
why
not?
They
will
answer
you
and
if
they
have
their
own
designer,
they
will
tell
you
and
if
they
have
an
agency
or
if
they
have
a
freelancer,
they
will
tell
you
as
well
it's
worth
trying.
Oh.
A
B
C
A
C
E
B
Actually
would
ask
universities
in
Germany
I,
don't
know
about
America,
but
in
Germany
the
professors
are
really
open
cuz.
They
also,
especially
young
professors
like
to
have
interesting
works,
works
of
art,
or
they
know
who
left
the
university
in.
Who
is
going
for
the
freelancing
who
squared
for
company
you
know,
then
sometimes
they
can
give
you
a
hint
and
say:
okay,
oh
yeah,
that
was
excellent,
excellent
student
and
he's
a
freelancer.
Now
how
about
him-
or
they
generally
know
this
scene,
the
boss,
you
know,
so
they
can
tell
you
also
about
other
people,
uh-huh.
C
A
B
You
know
it's
a
fact:
there's
a
funny
anecdote
to
that
when
I
was
before
I
studied,
I
did
an
apprenticeship
and
Germany
apprenticeship,
Saul's
like
controlled
by
state,
and
you
have
like
a
diploma
and
the
chief
architect
of
the
office.
I
worked
for.
He
told
me:
well
an
architect
actually
knows
nothing,
but
he
knows
a
lot
of
oh
I
learned
just
off
people.
What
can
you
help
me
with
that?
You
know,
and
most
people
will
say
yeah
sure
why
not.
B
No,
no
I
worked
for
an
architecture
office
yeah.
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
I
can
hear
now.
Okay,
I
would
I
I
wasn't
apprentice
at
the
NACA
tech
chure
office
and
the
chief
architect
told
me
like
with
a
with
a
smile.
You
know,
architects
really,
don't
know
nothing
or
don't
know
nothing
specific,
very
well.
They
just
generalists
in
Germany
yeah
they're
there
designers
to
engineers
there
project
managers
in
their
accountants,
but
none
of
them
really
specialized.
B
You
know
but
say
no
to
work,
how
to
work
people
and
they
know
that
if
they
don't
know
something,
don't
know
something
or
need
help
is
something
they
just
call
someone
say:
call
company,
Hey,
carpenter,
I,
don't
know
how
to
design
this.
Can
you
help
me
kavita
will
help
you
know,
and
you
can
apply
that
for
your
course.
B
C
B
Yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah,
you
first,
you
tend
not
to
the
professor,
but
you
tend
to
his
subordinates.
You
tend
every
professor
on
the
whole
planet,
I
guess
they're
doing
their
work;
okay,
they
always
have
subordinates,
who
are
preparing
the
stuff
even
giving
lectures.
That's
the
people
you're
talking.
First,
you
want
to
you
want
to
find
the
friend
there
and
if
you've
got
the
friend
there,
he
will
constantly
poke
this
professor
and
say
well,
there's
something
hey
there's
something
again!
C
E
B
Then,
and
you
call
their
office
and
say:
hey
I
have
an
issue
and
I
want
to
work
with
the
professor.
Is
there
someone
who
could
look
into
it
first
so
just
to
know
if,
if
it's
something
for
the
professor
other
professors
would
like
it,
and
if
the
person's
not
rude
on
the
telephone,
they
will
might
give
you
an
email
of
the
specific
personnel.
Okay
awesome.
Sometimes
you
even
have
students.
If
you
reach
students
through
magazines
like
dizzy
or
whatever,
they
might
even
go
for
their
professors
themselves
and
ask
them
about
issues.
So
both
works.
B
Mean
dizziness
magazine,
which
is
read
by
a
lot
of
students,
yeah
architecture,
students
now
and
it
is
similar.
So
if
you
find
a
blog
about
mechanical
engineering
or
even
a
vlog
on
YouTube-
and
they
see
your
whole
idea
or
that
there
is
something
upcoming,
he
might
even
go,
feel
encouraged
to
go
to
your
professors
and
ask
them
themselves.
So
both
ways
work,
pretty
good
yeah.
C
B
A
C
B
B
C
Yeah,
no,
that's
cool!
Okay!
So
let's
talk
about
the
house,
what
we
want
on
that
sure!
So
what
what
were
you
thinking
about?
So
you
could
our
our
best
idea
would
be
if
we
talk
about
building
structures
for
the
summer
typical
you've
built
modules
that
are
like
256
square
feet
or
the
one
in
Mike,
can
you
work
in
feet
or
no
sorry?
What
can
you
work
in
feet
and.
C
C
E
C
C
B
Talking
about
people
building
their
own
homes
and
that's
pretty
much
what
happened
over
all
the
time?
That's
how
I
mean
if
you
go
for
an
ancient
German
city
like
medieval
or
even
older,
and
you
look
at
them
and
then
you
see.
Okay,
there
was
an
addition.
Then
they
had
some
money
or
material
and
they
added
something
there.
And
today
people
love
it.
You
know,
but
that's
how
people
would
not
a
lot
of
money
do
so
historically.
B
So
actually
I'm
interested-
and
this
is
not
usually
you
know-
I-
have
a
customer
coming
and
they
have
some
coming
to
me
and
they
have
some
some
problem
or
some,
my
dear
or
some
lot
of
land
and
they
want
their
house.
You
know
their
home
and
then
I
do
like
three
designs
and
then
off
we
go
and
then
they
have
their
home
for
their
needs.
I
always
try
to
be
like
flexible
and,
for
example,
make
the
interior
walls
out
of
drywall.
So
they
can
interchange
usability
of
the
rooms
or
do
the
statics.
B
So
you
could
even
do
a
business
out
of
the
home,
so
you
have
like
we'll
hire
hire
statics
a
hot
spoken
English,
like
you
know,
weight
bearing
is
higher
than
just
for
a
simple
home
and
stuff
like
that.
But
obviously
it's
a
whole
whole
different
business.
We're
doing
here
right
now
so
yeah.
So
you
could
start
with
the
core
of
two
rooms.
I
think
that's
what
works!
For
most
most
of
the
cases
we
have
one
living,
slash,
storage,
room.
Sorry
sleeping's
is
that
story.
C
Yeah,
we
were
thinking
more
like
so
far.
If
we
talk
about
building
the
summer
housing
like
basically
like
almost
motel
rooms
for
students,
so
that
would
mean
that
we
probably
have
a
central
shower
like
there'll,
be
a
shower
place
and
then
because
you
don't
necessarily
want
to
put
that
all
into
the
each
house,
so
building
up
our
facility.
C
Here
too
right
now
we
have
a
place
called
hab
lab
where
you
can
handle
like
18
people,
but
we
want
to
do
probably
like
more
private,
individual
ones
where
each
person,
especially
if
they're
staying
for
a
longer
time
they
have
their
own
private
quarters,
so
something
that's
very
small,
wouldn't
necessarily
need
to
have
all
the
utilities
in
there
because
we're
assuming
that
the
shower
would
be
elsewhere.
Yeah.
B
B
A
C
C
A
C
C
2900
yeah
about
seismic
reinforcement.
He
this
guy
uses
this
mesh
on
each
side
of
the
wall
and
that's
the
idea
now
for
us,
the
ideal
situation
would
be.
If
we
can
I
mean
it,
I
mean
there's
many
ways
to
build
a
house,
but
ideally
like
they
have
some
common
like.
Maybe
a
wall
is
common,
so
you
make
like
a
row
house
or
even
going
up
vertically.
C
A
B
C
B
B
B
A
B
Why
you
like
to
could
radiate
its
blow
windows,
especially
if
they're,
big
so
cold
air
streams
down
and
these
windows,
it's
cooling
down
at
the
windows,
and
then
the
radiator
is
kicking
it
back
up,
coil
heating
it
up.
Then
you
make
sure
that
this
cold
air
stream
is
not
growing
on
the
floor
and
on
your
feet
by
walking
basically
walking
it
with
the
radiators,
but
it
also
means
that
you
have
a
constant
flow
of
dry
air
in
the
room
which
makes
a
bad
climate.
That's
why
floor
heating
is
better.
B
B
You
when
you
have
like
a
big
window
card,
you
put
the
pipes
closer
together,
probably
more
pipes
in
front
of
these
windows
to
have
the
same
effect.
So
if
there's
like
you
know,
there's
more
cold
air
in
that
place.
That's
why
you
putting
in
more
densely
together
and
then
you
have
even
temperature
all
around.
B
But
if
you
were
okay
with
like
wearing
shoes
and
wintertime
and
have
a
like,
you
know,
if
you
don't
want
to
walk
their
feet
on
your
floor,
then
it's
enough
to
just
put
like
up
to
like
six
photo
six
cup
of
times
around
the
outer
walls.
And
then
you
know
these
surfaces,
which
are
the
most
cold
room
which
could
possibly
create
like
cold
radiation.
That's
physically,
that's
not
correct,
like
radiant,
cold,
colder,
air
or
colder
temperatures.
B
B
Well,
yeah
yeah
and
it's
G,
and
it's
actually
it's
it's.
It
doesn't
have
to
each
copper
pipes.
Can
pipes
made
from
anything
like
even
plastics.
If
you
want
to
use
it,
Kanako
just
put
them
on
the
on
the
bottom.
Part
of
these
outer
walls
just
put
them
around
uh-huh,
and
then
you
have
nice
climate
and
use
less
material
less.
If
you
would
do
it.
C
With
a
floor
heating
mm-hmm,
so
for
a
house
that
is
4
by
4
meters,
what
would
you
estimate
the
cost
would
be
for
a
basic
supercells?
Well,
the
heating?
No
for
the
entire
house,
like
what
kind
of
cost
structure
has
to
be
relatively
low
cost,
assuming
we're
using
our
own
Seabees.
Now
the
other
thing
is
I
want
to
say
the
way
we've
built
things
like
the
micro
house.
So
have
you
seen
our
micro
house?
C
Yes,
ok,
the
micro
house
tell
me
what
we
do
is
we
frame
in
the
wall,
the
the
window
as
an
entire
4
by
8
foot,
so
basically
a
panel
and
also
at
the
door.
We
framed
that
in
we
frame
all
of
that,
and
then
it
build
the
bricks
up
to
that.
So
it's
like
very
modular
you
can
have
at
the
same
time,
people
can
actually
be
making
the
well
first
of
all,
multiple
modules
can
be
built
in
parallel,
like
the
the
carpentry
modules
are
built
in
parallel.
D
B
B
Have
different
prices
a
whole
whole
psyche
works
differently
in
Germany
you
have
public
health
and
public
schooling
and
people.
You
know,
there's
a
different
price
structure.
So
that's
what
you
will
have
to
find
out
by
your
own,
but
I
can
help
you
with
is
creating
materialists
I
can
tell
you
what
is
good.
What
is
not
in
terms
of
products
to
use
a
lot
of
products
also
over
here
in
the
United
States
right,
Oh,
similar
products,
but
you
will
have
class
companies
or
warehouses
yourself
too.
B
C
B
C
B
This
is
not
something
I,
two
modular
modular,
so
you
could
I
mean
you
know
as
I'm
a
professional
with
this
whole
issue.
So
with
prefabricated
building,
yeah
and
actually
I
didn't
go
into
prefect
carrying
installations
because
they're
always
different
here
are:
they
will
always
use
different
materials
and
different
products.
Different
techniques,
that's
why
this
is
I
mean
you
could
make
up
an
external
case
say:
okay,
this
is
how
we
would
do
it.
This
is
one
or
two
alternatives,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
something
you
can
automate.
B
C
D
D
B
A
B
E
B
B
C
B
B
B
C
B
B
Okay,
you
know
what
I
also
like
to
have
is
the
type
of
ground
who
are
working
with
so
I
can
tell
you
how
to
do
the
Foundation's.
B
B
C
C
A
C
C
That's
what
it
looks
like
like
this,
take
a
look
at
this
link,
but
yeah
I
kind
of
just
keep
track
of
what
I
do
so
well.
I
can
put
that
in
once.
You
create
a
lot
of
like
more,
like
I,
have
a
marching
lot,
so
you
that
you
do
like
johan
log
and
just
obvious
stuff
in
there.
So
it's
easy
way
to
communicate
with
a
lot
of
people.
C
C
And
I'll
show
you
the
foundation
that
we've
done
before
so
I've
actually
like
to
get
your
comment
on
it.
Maybe
you
can
go
through
my
calculations,
which
nobody,
which
everyone
has
refused
to
do
it
to
date.
I
was
that
trying
to
ask
engineers
to
they
wouldn't
touch
it
they're
like
no,
because
a
lot
of
liability.
B
Yeah
yeah,
it's
the
same
here
so
for
every
building
you
need
to
get
your
own
like
you
need
to
sound.
You
need
someone
to
look
it
over
from
the
area.
You
know
it's.
It's
generally
how
you
need
to
do
that,
I,
don't
know
how
you
should
do
it
because
engineers,
you
know
your
study
for
reason
all
this
stuff,
but
on
the
other
side,
I,
don't
know
about
the
laws
in
the
United
States
yeah.
C
C
A
C
C
B
Know
when
I
calculate
I
will
calculate
so
it
works
with
the
European
code,
like
euro
code
cause.
All
my
calculations
are
towards
it.
So
it's
not
like
it's
our
outer
somewhere,
so
it's
actually
complying
with
technical
regulations
in
Europe.
Okay,
let's
go
program,
but
still
I
will
always.
I
will
always
need
to
write
that
you
need
to
have
an
engineer
to
look
it
up
just
for
insurance
reasons.
I
will
I
will
sell
it
as
a
general
calculation,
and
it's
just
for
I.
C
C
C
B
C
So
basically
we
can
so
you
see
that
if
we
wanted
to
actually
market
this,
what
we
could
do
is
roll
it
in
as
a
mobile
home
and
then
that
that
bypasses
the
code.
So
you
can
do
that
like
because
a
lot
of
places
we're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
do
what
we
want
because
of
cost.
You
know
getting
permits.
But
if
we
do
a
mobile
structure
we
thought
about
that.
So
then
we
can
just
roll
it
in
and
there
you
go
I.
E
B
Put
in
put
in
the
clay
inside
the
frame
then,
or
even
even
without
clay,
and
just
you
know,
clay
clay
on
the
inside
for
the
climate
that
could
be
also
would
be
viable.
I
guess
so
you
just
have
like
thin
plates.
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
young
company
in
Germany,
it's
like
2
years
old,
or
something
and
they're
applying
clay
on
wooden
sheets
like
it's
wood,
wool,
sheets,
they're,
kind
of
cheap,
but
also
organic.
So
there's
no
chemic
sin
side,
yeah.
A
B
Then
they
just
built
themselves,
the
machine
to
clay
apply
thin,
but
steady
coat
of
clay,
and
they
also
made
sure
that
the
sides
of
the
plates
are
like
look
like
the
very
thin
layer.
So
then,
when
you
have
them
on
the
on
a
construction
site,
you
always
see
where
to
screw
in
and
then
you
could
put
it
put
finish
the
plaster
on
the
on.
You
know
where
the
plates
meet
and
then
it's
like
even
and
that's
how
they
do
like
cheap
clay
plaster,
because
it
was
really
expensive
before
that.
B
You
know
what
I
mean
body
meeting
like
no
yeah
bonding.
They
you
can
use,
you
can
use
these
plastic
fibers
fiber
meshes
or
what
I
prefer
is
like
you
use.
You
make
a
little
bit.
Thicker
clay,
instead
of
like
really
thin,
make
a
thicker
clay
on
top
of
the
plate,
and
then
you
use
net
natural
fabrics
like
two
layers
of
natural
fabric
for
the
bonding
or
for
the
bench
outscored
like
where
to
pleat
plates
meet.
How
is
this
called.
B
B
That
is
gap-
oh
my
goodness
yeah,
so
the
gap
so
joint,
the
joint
I
think
that's
the
joint
areas.
Mm-Hmm
anyhow,
you
will
put
them
together,
you
screw
them
on
the
post
and
the
wooden
posts,
and
then
you
have
like
flatter
clay
areas
where
you
screw
in
and
then
you
put
the
first
part
of
clay
plaster.
Then
you
pull
push
in
like
the
fabric,
then
you
do.
B
Saw
you
it's
fine,
yeah
and
I
need
climate
diagram
of
the
area,
so
I
can
do
some
calculations,
so
I
can
give
you
proper
calculations.
Also
I
need
to
know
where
the
Sun
Direction
is
coming
from
cause.
Obviously,
you're,
not
a
different
part
of
the
world
is
the
Camco
is
on
Sun,
coming
from
South
in
your
area,
I
guess
you're
right
now,
yeah
all
right,
so
your
East
is
going
up.
West
is
going
down
and
okay
check.
That
read
the
same
though
right
so
climate
diary
diagram
is
needed.
B
B
C
B
C
B
So
you
want
to
have
minimum
a
pantry
kitchen
inside
with
probably
sink
or
probably
not
that's
up
to
you
to
decide.
Okay
and
pantry
kitchen
means
you
have
like
a
small
refrigerator
for
like
personal
items.
You
have
like,
like
a
small
space
for
like
tea
cups,
for
a
coffee
machine
for
some
water,
whatnot
and
also
some
plates.
Probably
if
you
want,
but
it's
the
minimum
standard
for
a
hotel
room
basically
and
I
mean
you
could
always
I.
C
Sink
is
in
there
sink
fridge
and
sorry.
What
sink,
fridge
and
stove
is
the
stove
included
I
like.
B
A
B
Not
talking
of
that
for
40,
you
have
water
cookers,
you
don't
need
to
stove
for
30.
So
it's
just
a
plain
area
we
can
put
on
some
plates
prepare
something
like
breads
and
breakfasts,
or
some
dinner
and
some
simple
dinner.
And
then
you
have
a
small
fridge
refrigerator
for,
like
I,
don't
know
like
for
these
breakfasts
or
for
this
whatever.
So
you
have
just
have
a
personal
space.
B
C
B
C
B
C
B
C
C
These
things
you
can
do
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
if
you
have
time
or
like
if
you,
if
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that,
I
would
be
interested
I
know
we
can
do
the
if
you
want
to
make
a
mobile
structure.
Yes,
of
course
you
can
put
that
on
trailer,
but
what
would
it
look
like
for
feasibility
for
a
Seabee
trailer
like?
Is
that
even
feasible,
cuz
Seabees
are
gonna
weigh
a
lot.
They're
gonna
be
very
happy.
Yeah.
A
C
B
You
know,
steel
and
clay
are
not
good
friends.
Why
not
you
there's
some
chemical
reactions
going
on
and
still
like
to
rust,
even
you,
even
if
you
paint
it
with
specific
stuff.
So
that's
not
a
big
problem.
You
can
just
how
this
deal.
I
can
hold
this
deal
with
some
other
material
and
then
you're
good.
You
know
just
say
I
just
when
you
talk
I
just
already
think
about
what
the
problems
are
well,.
B
B
B
B
A
A
C
B
I
didn't
have
time
to
look
into
it
too
much,
but
I
know
the
principle:
okay,
yeah
and
since
you
want
to
move
it,
I
always
would
apply
it
there
as
well
yeah.
So
you
have
movement
even
though
the
front.
B
A
C
B
Is
good
to
know
so
I
will
stop
making
soup
sketches
and
get
some
ideas
and
I
guess
in
one
or
two
weeks
we
can
get
together
again.
It.
C
Right:
okay,
Johan
thanks
a
lot
so
we'll
be
in
touch
I'll.
Send
you
some
more
info
on
burning
and
recruiting
for
the
steam
camps
if
I
can
pass
it
on
to
you
see
if
we
can
find
some
people.
Thank.