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C
We're
doing
working
almost
every
day
in
the
cd
go
home
building
tech.
Now
I'm
finishing
my
3d
printer
we're
gonna,
do
the
cnc
torch
and
well
yeah.
Everything
is
going
smooth,
we're
waiting
for
the
next
bunch
of
people
on
that
they're
coming
on
september,
okay,
it's
gonna
be
a
very
challenging
thing,
because
they're
gonna
come
like
15
people
and
well
yeah.
We
are
getting
ready
for
it
and.
A
Yeah,
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
they're
up,
but
so
so
what's
your
timeline
in
terms
of
do
you
intend
to
stay
up
to
september?
Is
your
intent
to
stay
as
long
as
possible.
C
C
But
well
I
have
a
vision,
visa
issue,
which
I
can
only
stay
three
months
because
I'm
here,
as
with
my
esta
visa,
so
it's
just
for
three
months
visa,
so
we're
doing
this
curriculum,
and
so
we
can
apply
to
the
h3
visa,
which
is
the
trainee
trainee
visa
and
it's
gonna.
C
D
Chris,
you
don't
at
this
time.
No,
not
at
this
time
is
it.
C
Well,
if
it's
something
yeah
for
sure
like
I'm,
I'm
more
than
I'm,
I'm
more
will
have
all
the
predisposition
to
do
it,
but
it
depends
on
on
well,
first,
the
visa
right
and
and
how?
How
is
it
gonna
be
conformed?
C
A
Yeah,
well,
it's
it's
nice
to
get
to
know
you
a
little
bit
better.
I
don't
know
if
marcin
mentioned
this,
but
I
discovered
osc
only
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
so
I'm
obviously
very
excited
about
it,
but
it
definitely
helps
to
get
a
better
sense
of
what's
life
like
on
the
ground
and
hi
ken.
It's
great
to
see
you
just
put
a
face
with
the
name.
F
From
the
users
hi
jonathan
yeah
nice
to
meet
you
finally,
yeah.
A
Yeah,
that's
great,
so
look
I
I
know
you
guys
are
like
really
under
the
gun
working
in
the
heat
burning,
a
lot
of
calories
marching.
I
I'd
like
to
take
your
lead
a
little
bit
on
how
best
help
out
everyone
on
the
office
look.
A
Also,
are
you,
are
you
living
in
harry
potter's,
plaza
under
the
stairs
no.
F
D
Doing
something
more
of
an
overview
of
what
we're
doing
today
so
so
to
maybe,
let's
start
with
an
overview.
F
All
of
us,
actually,
if
you
look
at
the.
E
D
H
A
little
working
session
as
soon
as
we
get
so
take
a
look
at
this
stock,
but
I
mean.
G
D
I
I
D
G
You
can
reframe
that
okay,
here's
welding
curriculum,
here's,
what
the
standards
are
and
how
we
can
create
a
you
know:
welding
tech,
school.
G
I
G
I
Like
one
after
another,
we
met
recently
with
some
engineers
for
structural.
E
G
That's
where
we
are,
but
I
was
hoping
we
could
get
into
that.
Just
just
start
writing.
E
E
Yeah
see
what
we
can
do
in
a
parallel
work
meeting.
Maybe.
G
Would
be
sufficient
to
go
with
the
h3
right
like
we
can?
This
is
our
written
document.
This
is
what
we've
got
and
we
can
substantiate
it
more
or
less.
So
that
would
be
a
good
step
for,
like.
I
A
Okay,
yeah,
let
me
just
update
everyone
on
the
situation
with
respect
to
the
the
everything
I've
done
since
we
started
talking
so
the
department
of
labor
has
has
not
made
contact
with
me.
I
I
only
received
the
contact
on
friday.
The
reason
that
is
significant
and
emailed
them
like
this
is
our
intention.
Will
you
help
us
out
the
reason?
That's
significant
is
because
each
state's
office
has
different
expectations
and
ways
they
like
to
do
things
and
to
give
you
some
background
in
virginia,
the
lady
told
me
verbatim
who's
the
state
director.
A
We
want
to
make
things
as
simple
as
possible.
Don't
give
me
a
lot
of
detail
just
give
me
the
framework
that
you're
pursuing
and
we'll
work
with
you
to
make
sure
and
like
we
give
you,
we
give
the
employer,
in
this
case
the
benefit
of
the
debt,
which
is
great
that,
because
we
have
I,
hopefully
you
can
see
my
screen
yeah.
We
have
a
thousand
lines.
A
Each
one
is
a
task
with
an
outcome
that
comes
from
an
existing
curriculum,
so
we
have
a
database
right
now
of
existing
industry
standard
for
each
one
of
these
tasks.
Okay,
now
so
so
we
have
detail,
we
have
a
rough
framework
on
the
summary
tab
of
you
know,
you're
going
to
show
up
in
this
two-year
program,
you're
going
to
get
oriented
all
the
way
through
redesign
and
build,
let's
see,
ecohome,
and
so
the
way
I
see
this
going
forward
is
we're
moving
at
the
speed
of
state
and
federal
government.
A
I
need
to
have
a
personal
human
conversation
with
the
representative
to
explain
why
this
program
is
unique
and
and
take
the
temperature
on
what
their
expectations
are,
so
that
that's
the
administrative
process
that
is
standing
in
the
way
of
osce
has
a
approved
apprenticeship
by
the
department
of
labor.
Now
I
think
that
is
the
silver
bullet
for
the
visa
application,
because
you're
taking
a
program
that
is
recognized
by
one
of
two
credentialing
agencies
in
the
united
states
and
you're
saying
we
are,
we
are
now.
A
This
is
what
we're
doing
and
according
to
the
according
to
the
requirements,
I
read
for
the
visa
that
meets
them.
There's
a
lot
of
open
questions.
I
have
that
we
should
probably
talk
through,
maybe
not
on
this
call
but
think
about
on
the
visa
application.
A
Does
the
program
have
to
be
non-paid
that
that's
a
question
that
I
wasn't
sure
about
there
there's
some
terminology
in
there
about
you're,
not
you're,
not
solely
doing
this
for
employment,
and
I
think
we
could
meet
that.
But
you
know
that
that's
sort
of
out
of
my
expertise,
because
that's
something
we
have
to
figure
out
does
the
does.
The
program
have
to
exist
separate
from
paid
apprenticeship
and
when
I
say
apprenticeship,
I'm
using
the
federal
government
terminology
here
of
you
have
guaranteed
work
hours,
a
set
wage
schedule
and
a
set
timeline.
A
Another
thing
to
consider
here
is
that
you
know
the
curriculum
that
we're
building
can
also
become
the
education
pathway
and
marcin.
I
think
you
and
I
have
some
stuff
to
talk
about
with
ed
vera,
but
bottom
line
is
we
now
have
that
application
process
started
as
well?
A
At
this
point,
I
feel
like
I'm
rambling,
so
so
help
me
out
what
makes
sense.
You
know
what
doesn't
make
sense.
F
Basically,
I
believe
that,
from
what
I've
read
it's
actually,
what
they
actually
want
to
see
is
how
many
hours
you'll
be
spending
in
the
classroom.
How
many
hours
will
be
spent
actually
working.
So
I
would
expect
that
the
the
two-year
apprenticeship
program
would
be
paid
that
there
would
be
some
element
of
because
it's
so
long
right,
yeah
that
there
is
there
is
some
practical
work
for
which
the
apprentice
will
get
paid.
F
A
Yeah-
and
this
is
sort
of
what
I
mean
by
clarifying
the
intent
of
the
visa
program,
because
the
way
that
the
government
defines
apprenticeship
is
a
combination
of
training
and
job
and
job
yeah.
So
so
that's
that's
essentially
all
it
is.
It
just
means
that
you're
earning
income,
while
you're
learning
at
skill,
yeah.
F
I
believe
it
it
does
fall
under
the
visa
requirements
as
well,
because
under
the
visa,
it
just
says
sorry,
I'm
just
having
a
quick
look
through.
A
To
learn
something
to
take
back
to
your
country
or
become
you
know
an
agent
of
whatever
you
know,
pathway
that
you're
pursuing.
So
I
think
we're
good
there,
but
so
so
I
think
that's
the
update
the
you
know,
rough
estimate,
department
of
labor
averages
two
or
three
day
response
time
to
all
my
communication,
and
so
getting
the
name
of
the
person
and
contacting
them
directly
was
a
big
step
forward.
A
I
still
have
to
wait
for
them
to
call
you
know,
reach
me
back
and
of
course,
it's
the
weekend,
so
federal
employees
aren't
going
to
be
working,
so
you
know
this
week,
hopefully
I'll
make
contact,
and
I
can
start
that
process
hey
march.
Would
you
want
me
to
sort
of
go
into
production,
technologists
and
explain
sort
of
like
what
the
initial
thinking
was
with
that?
Well,.
G
F
Says
when
it
actually
says
that
the
sorry,
the
non-citizen
will
not
engage
in
a
productive
employment
unless
such
employment
is
incidental
and
necessary
to
the
training.
So
I
I
took
that
to
mean
that,
as
part
of
the
training
that
you
would,
you
would
actually
do
some
hands-on
work
for
which
you
could
get
paid.
I
F
F
Yeah,
it
doesn't
require
it
yeah,
but
when
it
when,
when
it
is,
when
there
is,
I
think
payment,
it
should
be
stipulated.
How
many
hours
are
gonna.
Did
you
expect
to
work
yeah
and
how
much
is
going
to
be
paid.
I
A
Okay,
so
what
happens
when
I
go
go
to
the
department
of
labor
and
I
request:
I
have
an
employer
who's
interested
in
building
an
apprenticeship.
The
first
thing
that
they're
going
to
do
is
look
to
see
if
there's
an
existing
program
that
matches
what
martian's
trend
did,
and
they
did
that
and
what
they
found
was
a
job
that
was
created
in
1999
called
production
technologists.
It
was
created
by
lucent
technologies
and
and
you're
looking
right
now,
I'll,
try
and
zoom
in
a
little
bit.
A
This
is
these
are
the
tasks
that
I
pulled
directly
from
their
work
processes,
work,
process
and
department
of
labor
language
just
means
training
or
curriculum,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
go
in
and
actually
before
we
get
into
the
detail
here.
Their
thinking
was,
they
went
to
the
osce
website.
They
saw
osu
apprenticeship
on
the
header
they
clicked
on
it
read
through
that
document
and
they
said.
Okay,
we
can
turn
this
into
a
production
technologist
most
likely,
so
that
was
the
oh.
That
was
the
origin
of
this.
A
A
This
is
like
a
very
small
part
of
what
you're
already
doing,
and
so
what
I'm
thinking
is
a
quick
path
forward,
maybe
just
to
add
on
to
this
the
things
related
to
cd
call,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
what
the
right
answer
is
exactly.
That
may
be
something.
E
G
D
D
I
In
terms
of
marketing,
does
that
get
in
the
way
of
any
of
that,
like.
A
Yeah
the
thing
that
the
thing
that
vets
care
about
are
am
I
gonna
get
paid
like
fairly
a
fair
wage.
Is
it
you
know,
guaranteed
work
and
the
icing
on
the
cake
is
I
get
to
move
to
a
farm.
Collaborate
on
small
teams
be
a
part
of
something
crazy.
You
know
learn
you
know
like
if
you
tell,
if
you
tell
the
veterans,
that
I've
served
with
you're
going
to
weld
and
build
a
house
and
learn
about
solar
and
like.
A
A
D
D
H
A
Yeah,
so
I
think,
there's
two
ways
to
go
forward:
one
is
we
already
have
this
rough
framework?
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
screen
but
yeah
this.
This
rough
framework
right,
they're,
gonna,
show
up
they're
gonna,
learn
some
knowledge.
They're
gonna
do
practical
stuff.
I
pulled
this
from
the
wiki,
which
is
essentially
the
practical
and
the
foundational
knowledge
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
and
once
we
build
the
trajectory
from
day
one
to
end
of
two
year
project,
big
milestones,
big
framework,
then
we
can
go
to
the
trade
crosswalk.
A
A
I
can
go
back
and
find
these
tasks
in
the
database
and
then
pull
the
outcomes
and
the
references
and
consolidate
all
of
that
onto
a
format.
And
so
you
know
I
would
go
big
to
small
so
like
on
the
email
I
suggested
we
start
conceptual
like.
What
do
you
want
the
progression
to
be
over
the
two
years?
Probably
within
each
one
of
those
milestones,
what
top
like
trade
and
knowledge
topics
do
we
cover?
A
D
Yeah
and.
B
Like
here's,
what
we're
going
to
do.
B
We
doing
we're.
H
D
Let's
start
populating
with,
I
like
to
think
visually.
E
D
B
I
G
D
G
There's
wham:
why
are
arc
additive
manufacturing.
A
Is
there
a
classroom
portion
of
you
know,
this
is
the
thermodynamics
of
the
house.
D
A
Tech
schools,
I
mean
it
depends
what
you
mean
by
enterprise.
D
A
There's
there's
there's
accelerators,
there
are
small
business
workshops,
but,
and
anything
substantial
would
be
like
just
an
nba.
D
D
A
E
A
How
are
you
like?
Do
people
apply.
B
B
I
D
Interview
to
to
like.
G
There's
the
current
state,
we
would
yeah
yeah
just
application
an.
D
E
D
G
B
D
G
E
E
G
E
D
D
F
B
F
A
G
A
D
Goes
into
that
cycle
there's
take
a
look
at
the
osce
design
guides.
D
D
I
D
D
E
B
D
H
D
G
That
yeah,
but
those
kinds
of
projects
or
you
can
do
like
here's,
an
operations
plan
for
the
greenhouse
greenhouse
aquaponic
greenhouse.
G
D
C
That
make
sense,
yeah,
yeah
sure
and
yeah.
How
about
certain?
How
are
we
gonna
tackle
certifications,
for
example,.
H
Yeah
you.
D
I
G
A
H
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
C
What
this
program
wants
to
create
is
people
that
has
all
their
all
the
abilities
in
in
a
sense
like
someone
that
can
complete
every
certificate,
or
are
we
trying
to
specialize
people
into
a
particular.
I
G
D
B
D
F
H
E
B
B
D
D
C
D
Applied
sciences,
rapid.
D
H
B
I
H
H
I
D
B
D
I
G
D
G
I
B
D
D
D
H
I
B
C
Cad
yeah
well,
here
I
put
environmental
management
and
I
think
yeah.
F
C
D
D
C
F
B
D
D
H
I
D
E
G
Software
open
source
software
stack.
G
H
I
E
D
D
D
E
I
D
D
For
like
power,
electronics,
here's
how
you
build
this
induction
furnace
thing,
so
how
many
staff
do
we
need
for?
Well,
initially,
we
start
like
we
start
with
a
few
people.
We
we
build
up
once
we
have
more
staff
needs.
We,
I
think
initially.
H
D
H
D
D
Actually,
where,
where
the
people
there
are
teaching
the
five-day
swarm,
build
like,
or
at
least
leadership
like
lead,
at
least
apart,
lead
a
part
of
swarm,
build
of
a
cd
go
home
in
five
days
like
mastery,
a.
D
Part
that
you
can
actually
teach
so
you're
teaching,
so
you
have
the
opportunity
to
run
yeah.
D
D
I
actually
actually
think
living
roofs
are
the
next
thing
like
we
haven't
done
that
but
living
roofs.
Well,
actually,
we
have
the
first
building.
D
In
fact,
all
right,
so
we
got
to
get
back
to
that
in
a
very
professional
way,
in
the
sense
that
3d
printers
can
get
you
a
lot
of
the
substrates
and
planting
planting
forms
for
living,
roofs,
so
living
roofs.
I
D
We
don't
get
to
the
build
part
of
that
like
at
least
knowing
how
to
like
say
maybe
for
a
final
project.
People
can
get
get
enough
insight
to
do
a
final
project:
okay,
here's
my
living
roof
where
I
grow
strawberries
and
and
do
a
closed
loop
water
system,
integrating
the
roof.
Think
about
that.
So
there's
aquaponics,
but
then
there's
the
living
roof
that
filters
gray
water.
Maybe
after
the
digester
you
have
great
water
on
the
roof,
feeding
plants,
aquaponics,
integrated
food,
waste
management
systems,
kind
of
stuff,
that's
pretty
hot.
E
Oh
yeah,
like
oh.
D
D
D
D
D
D
I'm
gonna
start
moving
stuff
to
the
left.
I'm
gonna
put
like
filament
maker
sawmill.
We
didn't
even
do
sawmill,
but
we
we
got
to
do
it
because
we
are
going
to
do
it
at
least
like
run
one.
D
F
H
F
I
envisioned,
even
before
the
end
of
the
two
years,
actually
being
able
to
run
a
viable
business
enterprise.
You
know
using
open
source
assistant.
F
For,
for
example,
running
a
print
file,
a
3d
printer
file
or
or
building
cd
co-host.
Yes,.
D
Yeah
we
need
to
develop
that
for
next
year,
like
so
right
now
we're
developing
we're
like
still
refining
the
wood
version,
but
next
year,
like
it'll,
take
us
to
december
to
refine
the
wood
version,
but
probably
after
that,
we're
gonna
like
as
soon
as
we
have
any
energy.
That's
why
john
man,
we
need
bodies
asap.
D
E
D
A
Yeah,
okay,
I
gotta
take
this
and
organize
it
in
a
way
that
bureaucrats
would
understand,
yeah
well
and
and
like.
Let
me
be
clear,
I
feel
a
little
bit
like
a
caveman
here
and-
and
I
think,
based
on
paul's
comments
like
I
may
be
a
little
too
institutionalized
to
really,
but
maybe
that's
good,
like
like
I
I'm,
unfortunately
inside
them
by
the
doll.
So,
like
you
know,
a
lot
of
my
questions
are
more
practical,
pat
like
how
does
a
student
consume?
A
This
knowledge
like
get
at
your
intent
in
a
practical,
practically
speaking,
they
show
up,
they
have
a
class
they're
gonna,
do
practical
application
of
it
design
and
build,
and
then
is
that
a
subset
of
the
whole
to
your
program
that
then
transitions
into
now
you're
building
the
cdeco.
D
A
D
D
We
connected
we
pitch
it
as
here's,
affordable,
eco-homes,
scalable,
modular,
affordable,
eco-homes,
grow
designed
for
expandability,
so
that
I
mean
that's,
that's
big!
That's
a
trillion
dollar
enterprise!
D
A
Yeah
yeah
exactly
like
here,
they
answer
your
questions.
We
have
to
distill
this
down
into
a
clear
process,
get
it
approved,
and
then
that
is
the
trigger
to
then
bring
the
veteran
community.
You
know
into
it
in
a
way:
that's
not
there.
You
think
you
can.
D
Take
it
from
here
or
because
what
he
wrote
here
is
like
this
throw
down
of
like
the
stuff
we
do
cover,
and
you
know
in
class
we
talk
about
it,
we
do
some
of
it.
We
repeat
and
repeat
you
know
right
now.
I
know
people
are
overwhelmed,
but
initially.
D
Well,
in
the
six
month,
apprenticeship,
the
focus
is
we're
going
to
build
a
bun
like
the
second
house
next
week
in
about
a
week
or
two,
a
third
house
in
december,
so
we
get
more
practice
on
building,
but
interspersed
is
two
and
then
aquaponic
greenhouse.
We
build
that
too.
Interspersed
is
then
two
months
of
machines,
both
cnc
stuff
and
heavy
machines.
So
we're
going
like
diving
next
near
market
ready
tractor
like.
D
On
the
build
site
to
grade
and
do
other
things,
so
it's
like
man,
it's
getting
ready
for
prime
time
building,
a
bunch
of
machines
like
backhoe
and
other
things,
larger.
D
Of
effort
to
develop
a
product
release
where
we
need
bodies,
that's
the
thing
this
summer.
I
G
D
D
Of
corporate
r
d,
okay,.
A
D
The
structure
is
yeah,
I
mean,
if
you
take,
maybe
like.
What's
the
closest
thing
to
this,
like
I
mean,
is
there
a
thing
that
teaches
you
how
to
build
homes
like
yeah?
It's
called
carpentry
right,
so
here
we're
but
see
carpentry.
It's
like
you
typically
do
like
one
small
part
of
this
whole
thing
here.
It's
like
you're
getting
trained
to
like
who's.
The.
D
D
H
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
saying
that
it
has
to
be
like
fit
the
categories
that
they
already
have,
but
like
one
thing,
they
already
has
production
technologies
and
so
like.
What
I'm
going
to
do
from
here
is
turn
this
into
just
add
this
onto
that.
Essentially.
D
I
D
A
So,
like
you
know,
productions
like
dc
ac
electronics
semiconductors,
like
you've,
already
talked
about
that
soldering
teamwork.
Computer
skills
like
come
on,
like
that's.
Oh
man,
you're
obvious
you're,
obviously
covering
all
of
this
stuff
already
yeah
yeah
so
well
and
like
this
apprenticeship
as
it
was
designed
in
1999,
was
a
thousand
hours
which
the
is
is
equivalent
to
a
year
roughly
so
like
yeah,
you
know
I'm
taking
I'm
taking
all
the
topics
that
you
talked.
A
D
So
yeah
yeah
and
production
technologies,
and
I'm
just
like
again
confused
because
how
we
market
this
right.
Because
you
don't
want
like.
D
G
D
Side,
yeah,
okay,
so
we're
good
we're
good.
Just
do
it!
Production
technologies
make
our
thing
fit
into
the
production
technologies.
What
will
be
the
next
step
on
your
thing
on
your
side,
then.
A
Taking
the
blob
so
taking
this
spaghetti,
chart
and
then
rough
categories,
so
just
grouping
so
so
subgroupings
and
putting
them
into
a
hierarchy
or
even
if
it's
not
a
hierarchy.
It's
it's
literally
just
start
to
finish
these.
This
is
everything
they
cover
and
then
estimating
our
allocations
for
sub-topics
and
then
maybe
a
job
description
that
sort
of
outlines
like
the
the
pedagogical
model.
So
like
I
don't
know
if
this
is
accurate
or
not,
but
based
on
your,
what
you're
saying
is
like
you've
got
foundations.
A
Got
some
element
of
design,
so
I'm
going
to
build
and
perfect
that's
the
life
cycle
for
like
if
you're
talking
about
ceb,
there's
a
lot
of
different
foundations
and
classes
that
go
into
that
soils.
You
know
mechanical
design,
structural,
civil
engineering
right,
so
it's
like
in
a
five-day
ceb
module
yeah!
You
could
each
day
would
probably
look
like
this
go
through
that
cycle
potentially,
and
that
could
all
be
a
part
of
like
the
first
phase
of
the
curriculum
yeah,
where
you're
gaining
the
tools.
D
E
D
B
D
Fea
for
analyzing
phytonumb
analysis
and
for
analyzing
them
like
actual
design
of
the
cb
mechanic
like
blueprints
technical
drawings,.
A
D
D
D
Kind
of
stuff
it
includes
cement
stuff
includes.
A
D
Engineering,
if
you
want
to
build
these
for
a
business
yeah
like
there's
so
there's
the
enterprise
you.
I
E
A
To
all
of
the
all
of
the
bills,
yeah
does
that
need
to
be
separated
and
articulated
as
a
part
of
the
foundational
first
phase
of
the
curriculum,
or
do
you
want
to
leave
it.
D
E
A
D
D
A
A
Power
transfer,
yeah,
yeah,
foundations
of
power
electronics,
so
like
yeah
like
the
way
I'm
looking
at
this
is
some
things
come
before
other
things,
and
so
that's
the
first
step,
and
once
I
have
sort
of
a
picture
of
what
would
be
a
common
to
all
builds,
that
would
be
an
estimate
for
the
foundations
and
then
there's
an
application
portion
that
constitutes
all
the
builds
and
and
then
same
thing
for
the
design.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah
that
that's
a
part
of
it
and
then
the
the
the
end
picture
is,
you
know,
like
topic
like
topic
of
like
general
category
of
instruction,
so
it'd
be
like
fabrication,
and
you
know
welding
and
working.
A
You
know
woodworking
and
machining
all
that
stuff,
and
then
that
topic
has
an
hour
allocation
and
then
the
next
topic
would
be
like
collaboration
tools,
so
you've
got
your
wikis
and
your
pad
and
all
that
other
stuff
right,
so
so
that
that's
sort
of
the
level
of
picture
we
need
to
prove
you
know,
presents
if
you,
because
what
they're
going
to
see
is,
is
oh
you're
doing
a
weld
drilling
machine,
an
aquaponic
greenhouse
and
an
induction
furnace
as
builds
and
they're
immediately
going
to
like
think
nobody
could
possibly
do
all
of
that
exactly
in
two
years,
exactly.
B
D
Yeah,
okay,
so
what
I
suggest
is
do
do
your
live
cloud.
Editable
docs
share,
share
it
in
progress,
man
just
start
it
and
and
wherever
you're
doing
that
or
maybe
you
want
to
continue.
G
D
A
D
J
The
question
about
the
comparison
to
the
other
curriculums
coming
from
other
places,
because
you
know
sometimes
you
go
to
sign
up
to
university,
because
the
campus
is
so
amazingly
fun
to
be
in
or
whatever
you
know,
the
the
limit
is
so
hard
to
to
pass
to
even
get
in
so
there's
more
to
the
curriculum
than
just
the
curriculum
right.
So
so,
when
folks
look
at
this
production,
technologist
description
that
we
put
together
and
then
at
the
other
production
technologists,
what
do
we
want
to
see?
What
do
we
want
them
to
see?
J
D
A
A
Like
production,
technology
means
nothing
to
the
people
that
I
work
with.
What
they're
gonna
see
is
holy
they're
like
welding
stuff
and
using
it
on
a
farm
and
they're
growing
their
food
and
they're
eating
it.
Like
that,
that's
what
I
care
about!
That's
what
I
want
and
oh
production,
technologist
cool
I've
never
heard
and
like
keep
in
mind,
this
thing
hasn't
been
live
since
1999.
F
D
D
Like
go
up
to
the
very
top
like
yeah
man,
there's
like
if
you
go,
and
some
of
those
are
like
galleries
like
collected
things
yeah,
so
oh
man,
yeah.
I
A
I
mean
one
thing:
paulo,
that,
like
you,
don't
have
a
good
point
that
I
think
we
really
think
about
like.
We
need
to
put
a
like
a
human
face
like
the
the
veterans,
need
to
look
at
osa
and
see
them
like
and
be
able
to
easily
imagine
themselves
there
and
like
that.
That
is
the
crux:
that's
the
holy
grail,
really
oh
yeah!
The
transition
of.
D
Great
I'll
fix
it
right
now,
yeah
we'll
just
put
ken's
face
on
it
and
and
he'll
be
our
front
man.
E
D
D
I
F
I'll
take
christian's
lead
collaborate
on
that.
D
How
you
can
do
a
lot
of
it?
I
mean
you've
got
a
lot
of
materials
on
the
wiki
and
elsewhere
that
what
we
did
today,
the
all
that
now.
G
D
G
H
A
A
E
D
Are
the
exams
there
we
need
to
define?
Are
we
going
to
actually
write
up
things
like
written.
I
G
A
Yeah
I
mean
my
impression
here:
is
that,
like
the
ultimate
test
and
the
most
efficient
way
to
get
a
competency
is
like
you
passed
out
of
something
or
you
you,
you
do
the
thing
that
you've
been
studying
to
do
so.
If
you've
been
studying,
3d
printing,
you
3d
print
something
you've
been
studying
welding,
you
weld
to
a
certain
you
know
standard
and,
like
the
to
me,
the
written
exam
thing,
there's
a
lot
that
would
have
to
go
into
developing
the
exams,
potentially
that
you
can
bypass
business.
D
A
D
A
Yeah,
well,
I
think
I
I
mean,
I
think,
honestly,
at
least
from
microsoft
next
week
is
going
to
be
me
showing
you
what
I've
done.
Okay,
so
that
you
can
you
know
I
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
like.
I
don't
want
to
slow
you
guys
down,
but
to
me
the
the
the
rim
exam
and
the
in
the
the
cognitive
measurements
are
an
output
of
the
the
like
curriculum
in
a
more
in
a
way
format
more
refined
than
it
currently
is.
D
A
I
mean,
I
think
you
can
take
these
tasks
and
or
the
builds
and
the
foundations
and
for
each
one
of
them.
A
I'm
sure
you
know,
given
the
knowledge
of
the
room,
you
could
figure
out
how
you
would
test
that
conceptually
and
then
then
it's
just
a
matter
of
putting
questions
to
the
specific
topics,
but
we
may
like,
and
they
answers
may
reveal
themselves
to
us
as
we
develop
categories,
and
you
know,
as
we
sort
of
organize
things
by
like
type
that
you
know,
create
a
natural
progression
from
collaborative
design
to
fabricating
something
in
real
life.
B
H
C
Maybes
and
then
well,
we
can,
we
can
meet
by
video
call
or
maybe
through
the
spreadsheet
and
start
working
on
it.
D
Send
a
link
to
the
when
you
say
trade
crosswalk
send
a
link
to
that.
So
I
can
take
a
look
at
it
on
my
computer,
which
one.
D
D
D
I
A
And
pull
out
commonalities
that
we
can,
you
know,
simplify
for
the
application
process.
I
do
have
a
question
for
ken
and
christian:
what's
preventing
you
guys
from
just
saying
I'm
working
and
learning
at
osc,
here's
a
link
and
here's
all
the
topics
that
I'm
going
to
cover
in
the
next
two
years
with
the
wiki
you
know
page
associated
with
that.
E
G
A
F
C
A
Okay,
yeah
guys,
so
so
it's
like
a
credibility
issue
or
legitimacy
issue.
Okay,
I
understand.
D
D
B
F
C
B
D
B
C
Yeah,
but
on
the
other
window,
there's
production
technologies.
So
we
are,
we
are
adding.
You
know
what
I
mean:
yeah,
we're
adding
all
trade
crosswalk
to
production
technologies.
I
D
C
A
So,
just
keep
in
mind
that
the
source
of
all
of
these
modules-
let's
call
them-
let's
say
each
row
and
the
trade
crosswalk-
is
in
the
module.
The
source
of
always
like
the
electrical
list,
is
a
four-year
program,
so
everything
listed
there
was
designed
to
be
covered
in
a
four-year
program
so
that,
like
the
implication,
isn't
that
we
have
to
make
this
like.
A
We
have
to
be
conscious
of
the
time
required
to
cover
these
things
according
to
the
source,
so
that,
like
in
terms
of
thoroughness
like
that
that
that's
where
we
got
this,
that's
where.
D
Sounds
like
this
thousand
adds
up
to
933
hours.
What's
there
on
the
production,
technologist
thing,
if
I
share
my
screen,
can
you
let
me
share
my
screen.
D
I
D
A
The
product
like
registered
apprenticeships,
have
on-the-job
training
and
do
buckets
of
time
that
they
count,
and
so,
like
not
super
strict
about
the
hour
counts
per
task.
They
just
they're
trying
to
just
get
a
sense
that
this
is
going
to
fill
two
years
or,
however
long
that
you
say
the
program
so
like
the
employer
dictates
what
the
timeline
did.
Okay,
this.
D
E
A
No,
what
I
was
trying
to
say
is
that
when
I
went
to
carpentry
and
electrical
programs
to
pull
what
the
curriculums
were,
I
pulled
from
like
three
and
four
year,
like
I
pulled
from
the
most
most
extensive
training,
you
could
possibly
find
open
source.
A
A
A
C
D
C
D
D
H
D
E
D
A
But
keep
in
mind
keep
in
mind
that
the
education
pathway
is
now
open,
and
so
everything
that
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
exams
and
certifications
and
and
like
the
broader
picture
of
instruction
and
education
like
that,
will
still
have
to
be
fleshed
out
for
the
application
or
for
the
education
round.
Yeah
yeah.