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From YouTube: Plan Review - Plumbing and Electrical - Seed Eco-Home
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Discussion with Mark Manville, inspector, working with https://www.ibts.org/. Mark works in the Kansas City area. Going over the house design - and giving positive feedback on the need for the affordable housing that we are pursuing. The document shown is at https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/SH2_Plan_Review - please feel free to review and edit.
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The
air
admittance
valves
are
probably
not
needed,
but
each
jurisdiction
is
going
to
deal
with
it
differently
and,
of
course,
their
maintenance
valves
have
to
be
left
out
and
if
you
know
that
you'd
like
the
space
under
the
cabinet,
so
they
can
be
maintained
because
there
are
a
mechanical
bikes,
but
I
would
agree
with
you
that
they're
probably
not
needed,
but
I
need
to
probably
dig
into
it
a
little
bit
deeper.
Where
did
you.
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Because
I
was
looking
all
over
online,
I
found
it.
I
can
show
you
everything,
there's
that
this
is.
I
read
this
in
several
publications
online
where
they
were
discussing
venting
types
of
venting
systems,
and-
and
I
came
to
that
and
then
I
looked
at
oh
yeah,
there's
a
philadelphia
system,
cool
excellent.
It
would
save.
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I'm
sorry,
can
I
ask
you:
is
it
possible
for
you
to
actually
see
my
screen
because
I
can
share
my
screen?
Can
you
see
the
screen
that's
like
on
the
so
you're
still
on
the
zoom
meeting
there?
Can
you
see
the
screen
on
your
computer
because
I
can't
see
you,
but
can
you
see
my
screen
right
now
because
I
can
show
you
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Can
see
yeah,
I
can
see
your
screens
well,
my
and
while
I
agree
with
you
that
this
looks
like
a
viable
system,
if
it's
not
discussed
in
the
code,
okay,
all
the
jurisdictions
may
not
accept
it.
Now
we
do
see
like
in
an
island
sink,
they
do
allow
you
to
go
one
pipe
size,
bigger
and
what's
what
in
the
industry
is
called
a
boston
loop.
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You
know,
let's
go
back,
I
don't
need
to.
I
can
just
talk
you
through
this
okay
go
ahead,
so
here,
where
you
have
the
air
mittens
valve
coming
off
the
top
of
this
two
inch
riser.
If
you
will,
it
would
be
possible
to
take
that
put
a
45
on
that
and
just
slide
over
to
the
three-inch
stack
going
through
the
roof
and
that
would
have
been
at
the
time.
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Right
so
again,
that's
something
we
need
to
ask
the
jurisdiction.
If
you
look
in
the
plumbing
code,
it
gives
us
some
definitions
of
different
configurations.
They've
come
up
with
and
how
to
vent
them,
and
it
limits
what
fixtures
can
be
on
in
that
particular
makeup
to
meet
that
definition
so
I'll
have
to.
I
have
to
dig
into
that
a
little
bit,
but
no.
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And
so,
and
so
when
we
get
to
that
point,
then
I'll
have
conversations
with
the
local
jurisdictions
yeah
if
we're
still
involved
in
the
deal
I'll
go
in
and
talk
to
them
or
call
them.
As
I
know,
the
building
official
in
saint
joe-
and
I
know
the
guy
that
heads
up
the
plan
review
in
kansas
city,
and
so
I
can
call
and
get
their
take
on
it.
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Most
people
use
more
than
eight
gallons
of
water
to
take
a
shower
or
to
fill
up
a
tub.
I
know
to
fill
up
a
tub
you're
going
to
use
more
than
eight
gallons.
They
don't
recover
electrics,
don't
recover
very
quickly
and
they're
kind
of
expensive
to
run.
They
take
quite
a
bit
of
energy
right
gas
ones
recover
more
quickly,
but
depending
on
where
you
are,
you
may
not
have
availability.
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The
code
doesn't
discuss
recovery
time.
I
think
the
code
just
says
that
you're
going
and
I'll
look
to
see
if
it
gives
us
a
specific
temperature.
I
think
the
code
just
says
that
you
need
to
have
potable
water
and
you
need
to
have
the
ability
to
take
a
bath
and
wash
things.
So
I
will
look
specifically
at
any
language
for
hot
water
requirements.
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I
don't
think
that
the
code
discusses
a
specific
product
for
that.
I
think
it
just
generally
says
if
you,
if
it's
on
an
upper
level
yeah,
you
know
over
over
finished
space
like
in
an
attic
yeah,
for
example,
that
you
need
to
have
a
drain
pan
for
emergency
situations
and
even
those
need
to
be
drained
yeah.
The
drain
pan
needs
to
have
a
drain
in
it.
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And
you
know
you
bring
up
a
good
point.
I
don't
think
I've
ever
seen
a
drain
pan
that
had
c
c
p,
v
c
fittings
in
it.
I
think
they're,
all
right,
cdc,
yeah
yeah,
so
maybe
they're
thinking
by
the
time.
So
this
thing
discharges
a
lot
of
is
going
to
go
up
into
the
atmosphere
of
steam,
the
water
that
does
hit
the
pan.
Maybe
they
think
by
the
time
that
it
gets
to
the
drain.
It's
going
to
help
cool
down
enough
that
the
pvc
will
stand.
It.
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One
inspector
that
comes
out
to
do
your
first
rough-in
and
he
fails
you
and
gives
you
a
list
of
five
things
to
fix.
He
may
not
be
the
one
that
comes
back
as
the
next
inspector
comes
out
and
says:
well,
yeah.
It
looks
like
you
got
those
five,
but
I
see
these
things
need
to
be
fixed,
okay
and
he
will
create
another
punch
list
for
you.
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Well,
you
can
make
that
argument
with
him
and
hopefully
he'll
buy
into
it.
Sometimes
they
don't.
Oh
wow.
You
know,
there's
just
this
human
factor
that
that
plays
into
everything
we
all
want.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
all
want
to
end
up
with
a
code
compliant
building,
but
code
compliant
is
really
not
a
defined
term
and
everybody
has
a
different
opinion
of
it.
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You
can
put
the
breakers
on
if
you
feel
comfortable,
but
you're
going
to
have
a
bunch
of
bare
wires
on
the
other
end,
so
you
might
be
better
off
to
leave
the
breakers
off
or
out
until
you're
doing
your
final.
You
know
putting
all
the
wiring
devices
in
and
making
sure
everything's
safe
before
you
energize.
It.
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They're
not
going
to
get
in
the
way
for
anybody.
What
I'm
saying
is
we're
going
to
be
able
to
see
all
the
wires
landed
on
the
buses
in
the
panel,
whether
you
have
the
breakers
in
there
or
not,
but
rather
than
having
a
bunch
of
breakers
in
there
that
someone
could
accidentally
turn
on
once
this
panel
is
energized
sending
energy
across
the
house
to
a
box
that
doesn't
have
any
device
on
it.
Just
has
three
bare
wires
sticking
out
of
it.
It's
probably
not
a
good.
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I
want
to
do
a
transfer
switch
on
the
inside
of
the
house,
which
would
be
right
here.
So
on
the
first
floor,
we've
got
a
transfer,
switch,
that's
fed
from
a
for
a
terminal
block
outside.
So
assuming
we
divide
well,
first
of
all,
we
do
this.
We
got
four
art
coming
in
with
some
kind
of
a
an
approved
device,
so
we've
got
the
feed
going
into
the
transfer
switch
one
from
the
grid,
but
the
second
one
comes
from
the
pv
system
now
from
above.