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From YouTube: Open House Party with Chas
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Discussion with Chas Murillo on an aligned project, the Open House Party.
https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Chas
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Don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
first
or
me:
yes,
so
yeah
yeah
I
mean
quick,
update.
We've
been
working
on
a
CD
go
home
all
year
up
until
a
build
in
December,
so
December
8th.
We
started
a
build
of
two
houses.
We
we
got
one
pretty
much
framed
up
the
second
one.
Just
the
foundation.
We've
got
a
bunch
of
house
modules,
but
basically
those
are
two
two
houses
that
we're
finishing
now:
I'm
putting
on
a
market
to
prove
the
economic
model
of
the
CD
column.
So.
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And
I
got
my
power
certificate,
but
things
weren't
quite
paying
up.
I
had
some
health
issues
and
my
GPA
dropped
a
bit.
I
decided
I
want
to
do
some
stuff
on
my
own
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
do
what
you
were
doing
with
Open
Source
Hardware
technology,
because
I
think
that's
really
amazing
that
you
can
connect
with
people
internationally
via
social
media
and
work
on
similar
projects
and
I
kind
of
went
well.
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I
formed
my
own
non-profit,
for-profit,
open
house
party
chances,
chassis
and
I've
been
kind
of
incrementally
working
on
it,
as
I
am
able
to
so
I
guess.
Some
updates
for
2022
one
big
one
is
I
got
a
big
piece
of
machinery
for
my
for-profit,
the
professional
Shredder
for
the
precious
plastic
equipment.
A
C
C
A
B
We
still
do
the
four
by
eight
four
by
nine
modules
in
real
life
size
four
by
nine
feet,
then
you
have
a
locating
piece
that
you
would
put
somewhere
on
the
module,
which
would
say
be
annotated,
like
okay
put,
this
at
coordinate,
X
Y
on
the
module
and
therefore
it'll
be
part
of
the
water
system.
Because
then,
then,
your
plumbing.
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C
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B
C
A
And
also
kind
of
replicate
what
you
were
doing
with
the
wiki
part
of
your
website,
yeah,
so
a
big
part
of
documentation
and
for
you
it's
a
struggle,
and
it
is
for
most
everyone.
But
if
you
can
at
phases
of
your
development,
even
if
it
doesn't
pan
out
production,
wise,
just
showcasing
what
steps
you're
progressing
with
and
having
it
goes
out
publicly
accessible
and
easily
to
access
with
open
project.
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I
still
need
to
learn
about
versioning
and
assigning
work
packages,
but
the
my
goal
is
as
I'm
kind
of
assimilating
my
own
repository
that
acknowledges
organizations
like
yours
with
open
source,
ecology
and
open
building,
Institute
others
like
Wiki
house
I,
want
to
acknowledge
what
developments
organizations
are
doing
and
being
able
to
upon
interest
someone
to
expand
further
into
that
and
to
raise
issues
or
concerns
progressions.
But
that
way
it
provides
an
opportunity
for
say
someone
else
to
pick
up
the
Baton
and
progress
a
bit
further.
A
Hopefully,
in
the
public
domain,
I
know
you
have
a
lot
on
your
I
know.
You
have
a
lot
on
your
plate
and
sometimes
it's
hard
to
keep
up
with
the
documentation.
But
if
you
can
make
it
so
it's
easy
for
you
to
publish
some
of
your
main
progressions
by
month
and
allow
people
to
acknowledge
what
you've
done
and
build
off
of
that
as
derivatives
like
Wiki
house,
for
example,
I
think
it'd
be
easier
for
someone
like
me
to
be
like
cool
Martian.
A
This
is
what
you've
done
for
the
month,
and
this
is
relates
to
what
I'm
interested
interested
in,
and
this
is
how
I
want
to
kind
of
push
it
forward
with
my
own
unique
interests
so
just
making
it
openly
organic,
where
it's
easier
for
someone
to
pick
up
the
Baton
and
progress
further
with
it.
So
like,
for
example,
you
might
be
working
on
3D,
printing
I
know,
in
my
case,
where
it's
cold
I
learned
the
hard
way
that
I
can
produce
some
stuff
for
the
3D
printer
I
bought.
A
But
until
I
got
in
closed
chamber,
I
was
able
to
successfully
make
a
good
product.
You
know
you
run
into
some
of
those
issues,
but
if
you
can
like
create
a
better
user
interface
for
someone
to
find
out
what
subcategory
projects
you're
working
on-
and
it
relates
to
what
they're
doing
then,
hopefully
you
make
it
in
a
format.
So
someone
else
can
pick
up
a
baton
from
anywhere
else
in
the
world
yeah.
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More
organized
and
categorized,
but
also
I'm
kind
of
setting
up
like
jelly
Finn,
for
like
a
video
recordings
centralized
but
I
want
to
have
like
go-to
links.
People
can
go
to
to
be
updated
like
what
Maya
progression
is
and
hey.
These
are
my
sources.
I
am
sourcing
open
source,
open
source,
ecology,
I'm.
A
People
want
to
search
further
in
my
references
that
makes
sense,
of
course,
making
an
academic
publishing.
You
want
to
have
a
good,
healthy,
credible
cell
references,
so
you're,
relying
on
other
people
of
High
professional,
credible
value
and
to
substantiate
your
work
so
similar
with
open
source
colleges,
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
the
more
you
can
have
people
they
can
defer
or
delegate
to
who
are
better
at
their
Niche
and
are
willing
to
progress
and
share
that
public
knowledge.
It
makes
it
a
lot
easier
for
some
of
your
projects.
A
A
If
I'm
able
to
manufacture,
say
the
plastic
with
3D
printers
or
injection
molding
at
a
faster
rate
with
some
of
the
equipment,
then
that
might
be
of
use
to
you,
yeah
or
if
you
make
developments
in
your
housing,
designs
or
Wiki
house
does
I
can
refer
to
your
designs,
make
scale
models
of
stuff
as
I
build
up
my
equipment
and
materials.
So
I'm,
not
over
leveraged
in
debt,.
A
For
that
debt,
the
non-profit,
I,
don't
want
to
do
any
debt
based
stuff
and
I
want
to
be
more
Community
focused
on
the
non-profit,
engaging
with
people
like
you
online
or
maybe
Wiki,
House,
Founders
or
other
people
doing
similar
derivative
work
yeah
because
either
way
with
Wiki
house
or
open
source
ecology,
you
see
Eco
Home,
you
guys
are
both.
Have
your
installation,
your
electrical
work
and
your
plumbing
work
and
you
go
and
each
have
your
own
libraries
or
ways
of
that
inner
development,
and
so
I
want
to
refer
to,
like
both.
B
A
C
A
A
Touch
another
basis,
I
noticed
a
bit
in
your
documentation
as
well,
but
like
in
my
case,
I'm,
going
to
focus
on
well-being
and
related
to
like
Maslow's
hierarchy
of
needs
and
one
of
them
being
housing
is
a
kind
of
a
more
base
need
and
so
I'm
trying
to
acknowledge,
open
source
projects,
kind
of
based
on
that
core
base
level
of
the
Maslow's
hierarchy.
And
so
people
can
get
around
like
up
with
affordable
housing
for
sure.
A
And
maybe
eventually,
if
you
get
that
big
enough,
maybe
you
could
look
into
something
with
utilities
or
repairs.
Say
I,
don't
know
like
a
like
Urban
Development
or
just
like
you
use
like
Open
Source
Hardware
designs
for
me,
like
basic
utility
type
needs,
whether
it
be
Plumbing
toilet
stuff
or
whether
it
be
like
some
electrical
stuff,
like
you've
kind
of
been
doing
to
some
degree,
but
just
where
people
can
pick
up
your
designs
for
Public
Works
and
improve
That
Base
utility,
as
far
as
like
with
a
household
and
well-being
in
other
categories.
A
Ip
needs
because,
if
you
can
do
things
that
are
of
service
to
what
people's
core
based
needs
are
in
a
better
way,
then
more
people
I
feel
are
willing
to
engage
with.
Oh,
this
is
really
cool.
Like
they're,
saying
I
can
build
like
a
scale
model
house,
and
they
could
eventually
build
up
a
full-scale
house
like
I.
Don't
know
if
I
want
to
do
that
myself,
but
if
you
get
to
like
like
a
shed
skill
of
stuff,
then
like
yeah
like
I'd,
be
willing
to
pay
for
that,
because.
B
A
Something
else
I've
learned
is
like
with
open
source
projects,
sometimes
there's
another
organization
or
company
that
publishes
their
Works.
That
might
be
a
bit
better
performing
and
with
like
an
open
project,
I
haven't
fully
utilized
versioning
but,
for
example,
I
liked.
Conversion
like
like
the
developments
of
your
CD,
go
home.
A
I
also
like
to
version
some
of
the
different
models
of
Wiki
house
and
with
like
my
own
program,
like
it
kind
of
encapsulate
those
two
in
my
derivatives,
but
I
acknowledge
some
of
those
upgrades
every
so
many
years,
whether
it
be
housing,
whether
it
be
CNC,
Machining
equipment
or
3D
printers.
You
and
I
have
a
preference
towards
the
open
source
domain
of
hardware,
and
so,
if
we
can
acknowledge
some
of
those
public
developments
that
are
creating
a
new
standard
like
be
better.
A
With
the
CMC
example,
I
haven't
fully
put
together
my
low
rider
CNC
and
since
then
they
have
a
low
rider
2
for
V1
engineering,
and
now
they
have
a
low
rider
three.
Each
time
it
keeps
getting
better
and
better
beautiful,
upgrade
and
I
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
I
can
just
defer
to
another
company.
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
Okay,
that's
something
I'd
be
interested
in
doing
with
one
of
my
colleagues
yeah
as
I'm
kind
of
doing
my
own
scale
level
house
builds
I,
don't
want
to
Overlay
over
leverage.
My
for-profit
with
the
debt
I
want
to
have
my
equipment
kind
of
pay
for
itself
over
time,
but
just
some
kind
of
passion
project
for
me
is
acknowledging,
like
all
the
works
that
you're
doing
and
how
I
can
utilize
that
to
build
a
scale
model
of
your
CD
go
home
or
the
wiki
house
model
models.
A
B
A
A
So
when
I
jump
from
that,
eighth
to
half
inch
I
had
a
quadruple,
the
thickness
and
the
dimensions,
and
so
I
paid
someone
to
provide
the
dxf
files
now,
unfortunately,
the
manufacturers
also
want
engineering
drawings
to
go
with
that
which
does
not
meet
their
with
what
wikios
has
does
not
meet
their
standards,
so
I
need
to
pay
him
to
or
my
designer
to
take
each
panel.
So
there's
like
40
some
sheets
of
like
plywood
designs
that
are
modified
to
fit
for
that
skill
production.
A
So
the
challenge
is
like
he
has
to
go
through
the
process
of
either
utilizing
that
advanced
technology
software
technology.
That's
going
for
proprietary
version
to
provide
that
schematic
or
layout
drawing
that
they
want,
but
ideally
I
still
prefer
to
have
things
accessible
and
free
CAD.
So
some
of
the
designs.
C
B
B
C
Is
widely
accessible
and
then
there's
free
cat
and
free
CAD,
we
already
have
done
things
like
dedicated
workbenches,
where
you
can
design
things.
So
you
drag
you.
Basically,
click
on
the
button.
Okay
draw
the
frame
draw
whatever
like
for
the
3D
printer.
We
did
that
already.
We
have
a
very
basic
version
of
that,
so
use
the
advantage
of
freecad
which
allows
you
to
do
that
openly
and
then
change
those
designs
and
have
an
easy
user
interface
that
anyone
in
the
world
can
use.
A
C
B
C
B
C
B
A
About
I'm,
going
to
add
an
architecture
I'm
gonna
take
around
with
this
in
my
free
time,
but
sometimes
I.
Don't
necessarily
always
have
enough
free
time
to
do
a
full
development
of
this.
So
I
myself
also
prefer
to
defer
to
someone
else
to
maybe
provide
like
a
presentation
or
just
something
to
expand
upon
what
their
knowledge
is.
A
I
think
I've
seen
who
are
like
big
developers
with
freecad,
but
it
would
be
worth
it
for
me
just
to
pay
some
expert
in
that
area
of
freecad
specialist
to
do
the
work,
but
also
keep
in
the
public
domain
and
publish
their
work
and
that
sometimes
we
wanted
to
fund
them
for
as
like
a
public
kind
of
invoice
type
thing,
because
that
way,
it
would
help
me
get
up
to
speed.
It
would
provide
some
public
knowledge
on
that.
It
also
kind
of
advanced
the
workspace
field.
A
A
C
B
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
B
C
Square
feet
because
it
was
so
much
more
interest
than
1300
square
feet,
so
we're
migrating
from
the
I
mean
the
thousand
square
foot
is
still
a
core
ma
module
which
you
can
do.
For
example,
you
can
do
a
2
000
square
foot
with
two
of
those
modules
next
to
each
other,
but
the
1300
for
the
single
house
is
very
important
like,
for
example,
in
town.
Basically,
people
told
us
if
you
do
the
Thousand
you're,
not.
B
B
A
I
have
not
got
ten
to
that
point,
yet
I've
kind
of
just
been
winging
it
trying
to
get
production
and
then
showcasing
marketing
recordings
kind
of
like
this
or
what's
really
cool
is
when
people
see
like
the
laser,
cutting
or
CNC
cutting
more
marketing.
That
can
do
like
this
or
I
record
it
I,
publish
it
on
the
YouTube
or
just
engage
with
people
on
the
online
communities.
A
A
A
So
with
the
workshops
I,
that's
what
I
really
want
to
put
myself
online
like
with
this
engage.
You
know
like
what
I'm
doing
and
just
to
find
interest
and
get
that
feedback
to
see.
Hey
is
people
are
people
wanting
to
like
Finance
me
or
promote
what
I'm
doing
as
like
a
public
works
and
if
things
become
really
take
off
on
the
for-profit
side,
with
my
time,
I
could
do
maybe
some
more
customized
work
with
you
know
the
housing
side
of
stuff
or.
B
A
The
house
chassis,
car,
chassis
type,
stuff
toy
model
based
stuff,
but
the
for-profit
is
where
I
really
want
to
do.
Skill
model
production
and
build
up
it'd,
be
cool
on
the
for-profit
side
to,
for
example,
to
manufacture
some
scene,
see
Machinery
or
like
a
laser
store
laser
Duo
equipment
that
stuff?
That's
that's
part
of
the
Creative
Commons,
because
for.
A
A
B
A
A
So
when
I
sell
stuff
like
I,
get
to
write
off
like
the
tax
write-off,
so
I'm
keeping
the
material
into
a
new
usable
form
as
CNC
Machinery
or
building
my
own
home
estate,
in
contrast
with
the
decreation
of
U.S
currency
and
dollars
and
stuff
trying
to
think
but
yeah
I
I
need
to
look
at
more
of
some
of
this
stuff.
You're.
Sending
me.
C
B
C
A
B
A
About
now
awesome
and
I'm
recording
this
time,
wow
I
don't
have
our
I,
don't
have
our
chat
conversation.
Hopefully
you
got
that
yeah,
awesome,
I
didn't
realize
I
had
to
click
the
claim
host
position.
Okay,
so,
as
I
was
saying,
like
Wiki
house
I
really
before
you
had
your
up-to-date
documentation,
which
I
still
have
to
get
more
familiar
with,
because
I
know
you
guys
are
still
doing
a
bit
of
development
for
ease
of
like
getting
up
to
speed
with
Wiki
house
I
really
appreciate
their
manufacturing
files.
A
B
A
C
A
C
B
A
Some
point
I
would
like
to
try
to
3D
print
them
with
my
3D
printers
or
have
them
manufactured
I'm,
not
sure
which
route
is
I.
Think
you
were
saying
you
prefer
3D
printing,
but
just
I
want
to
kind
of
walk
through
the
process
on
my
own
at
some
point,
as
far
as
the
developments
you're
doing,
as
well
as
with
what
I'm
currently
doing
with
the
wiki
house,
and
acknowledge
the
developments
you're
doing,
because
that's
something
I
like
to
replicate
myself.
Yes,.
C
B
C
Is
the
next
one?
So
then,
once
again
you
got
things
like
the
cad,
where
a
lot
of
this
cat
is
pretty
much
taken
forward
from
the
last
last
versions.
But
now,
if
you
talk
about
okay,
here's
the
water
system
or
Plumbing
I
mean
these
are
exhausted
files.
It's
pretty
much
exhaustive
detail,
so
you
can
actually
look
at
the
working
dock
for
each
of
those
like
the
working
back.
That'll.
B
C
C
C
A
Today,
I'm
talking
about
this
cool
organization,
open
source,
ecology
and
their
building
modules,
I
could
spend
my
whole
video
talking
about
your
genealogy
and
contrasting
it
with
what
I'm
trying
to
do
with
versioning
and
just
encapsulating
it,
because
it's
very
easy
to
be
overblown
with
all
the
information.
But
if
I
can
just
focus
on
a
small
encapsulated
piece
of
it,
promote
it
online
engage
with
people,
then
maybe
someone
like
knows
a
home
builder,
so
that
or
people
can
kind
of
just
talk
and
discuss
about
it.
Yeah.
B
A
Yeah
and
so
the
next
week,
I
can
post
a
bit
more
in
detail
like
okay,
now
there's
these
subcategories
of
your
electrical
work
and
your
plumbing
and
what
I
like
about
it,
how
it
contrasts
with
Wiki
house,
another
non-profit,
and
then
someone
tries
like
oh
yeah
like
we
took.
We
took
or
saw
your
video
and
we
actually
their
own
thing
with
plumbing
like
you
should
be
doing
this
and
that
I'm
like
okay,
that's
cool,
yeah
and
yeah.
A
That
totally
makes
sense
and
like
actually
that's
better
than
what
Wiki
house
currently
has
so
I
like
how
Wiki
house
has
it
easy
for
production
but
open
source,
ecology,
ecology?
Has
this
really
good
documentation
with
plumbing,
and
these
plumbers
seem
to
be
really
able
to
expand
on
it
further,
whereas
that's
kind
of
past
my
knowledge
base,
but
someone
else
can
kind
of
pick
up
the
pieces
and
make
it
more
relevant
and
I
can
learn
from
them
and
re-encapsulate
it
synergize
back
into
the
project.
Yep.
B
A
B
A
C
B
B
C
A
I
like
to
make
an
interjection
at
work,
I
work
at
ConAgra,
Brands
I,
don't
want
to
go
too
far
into
detail,
but
they
use
PLC
systems
and
I
was
like.
Oh,
you
guys
know.
There's
like
this
cool
open
source
technology
and
I
refer
to
like
open
plcs,
just
as
kind
of
a
reference
base,
which
is
a
bit
different,
quite
a
bit
different
compared
to
Industrial
standards,
but
I
want
to
see
what
utility
there
might
be
with
open
PLC
as
far
as
open
Forum
type
stuff.
A
So
where
I'm
of
address
is,
if
I
were
to
take,
say
your
modules
with
electrical
electrical
modules
and
also
expand
upon
your
building
modules,
if
I
were
to
say,
make
a
scale
model
of
your
household
it'd,
be
kind
of
cool
to
do.
One
house
module
kit
for,
like
the
bathroom
one
module
house
kit
for
the
kitchen
and
kind
of
see
what
work
you
have
there.
A
B
A
Open
PLC,
just
a
technical
question
of
what
Hardware
can
run
on
from
what
I
I
just
viewed
this
a
few
days
ago,
it
seemed
like
it
was
an
arduino-based
type
of
module,
so
some
Raspberry
Pi's
and
some
other
specialized
Hardware
equipment.
I
have
not
I,
am
not
an
expert
I.
Just
oh
I
know
about
open
source
technology
and
I
just
try
to
download
it.
Of
course,
being
the
corporate
system
I
could
download
it,
which
my
co-workers
are
surprised
about.
A
Once
I
executed
on
Windows
corporate
policy
was
like
no,
this
cannot
happen,
so
it
like
automatically
rejected
me
from
opening
it.
So
my
experience,
I'm
going
to
say,
is
very
limited.
It's
like
two
days
worth
so
I'm
I,
don't
have
much
knowledge.
I
just
have
some
enthusiasm
as
far
as
exploring
it
and
seeing
what
standards
are
available
to
work
with.
B
C
B
C
A
B
A
A
C
B
B
C
A
That
I'm
going
to
interject
again,
if
you
could
take
notes
of
things
you'd
like
to
like
kind
of
show
off
with
what
you're
doing
doing
it,
what
you've
been
doing
in
the
past
year,
when
I'm
doing
my
YouTube
series,
I'd
really
like
to
refer
to
this
interview
and
some
of
the
cool
highlights.
You
have
yeah.
A
Standard
exploring
some
of
like
the
3D
printer,
for
example,
because
with
my
equipment,
I
have
my
professional
grade,
shredding
machine
and
so
I'm
starting
to
get
all
this
filament
I've
got
a
few
3D
printers
that
are
fully
utilized
and
a
couple
of
them
I
want
to
utilize
to
build
some
open
source.
3D
printers
I
know
you
have
your
professional
one,
that's
more
out
of
metal.
I
can't
remember
if
your
basic
one
is
a
bit
more
reprap
type,
you
can
replicate
with
another
3D
printer
well
as
I.
C
B
B
A
I'm
going
to
do
as
well
is
with
my
server
is:
I
want
to
have
a
repository
of
like
safe,
open
source,
ecology,
repository
and
have
versions
of
like
this
is
their
repo
at
2010.
This
is
the
repo
around
2020
time
or
this
past
year,
2022,
but
then
also
have
my
own
mirroring
repository
where
I
take
some
of
your
works.
A
This
is
like
my
own
repository
referencing,
your
works,
and
this
is
where
I'm
making
my
own
advancements
on
so
similar
to
like
a
GitHub
structure,
you
have
your
core
base
Branch,
but
then
I
can
do
a
derivative
work
of
it
of
my
own,
but
then
I
can
re-sync
it
to
what
you're
doing
saying
hey
if
you'd
like
I'm
committing
this
to
my
own
repository.
If
you
find
it
useful,
then
you
can
add
it
to
your
own
repository
yeah.
A
Yeah
because
I'm
I
know
like
as
your
own
organization,
you
have
works
that
are
encompassing
what
you
do
with
your
organization,
but
whenever
you
find
something
useful
from
a
company
or
another
non-profit
organization,
I'm
sure
like
with
precious
plastic
or
Wiki,
Alex
or
pre-cad,
you
refer
to
it
Henry
incorporate
into
what
you're
doing.
But
you
have
that
core
work.
That
is
your
own
entity,
but
that
own,
like
one,
that's
more
of
like
a
shareable
or
acknowledging.
A
B
B
C
C
Is
amazing,
and
then
we
went
to
this
is
like
okay,
your
desktop
kind
of
a
scale,
but
what
if
you
talk
about
industrial
grade
shredding,
then
you
got
to
go
to
hydraulic
motors
like
we
use
on
our
tractor,
which
were
more
like.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
just
get
you
some
pictures
there,
real
quick
from
that
was
in
2020
in
the
summer.
B
B
C
B
B
C
C
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
C
A
Probably
yeah
I
think
I.
Remember
what
I
was
going
to
mention
at
work,
I
work
at
ConAgra
Brands,
and
sometimes
they
have
different
versions
of
Motors
or
different
versions
of
PLS
vdf
systems
or
sorry
variable
drive,
fair
variable
frequency
drives.
If
you
have
D,
yeah
and
so
anyways,
even
though
it's
not
the
same
exact
part,
it's
just
a
decision,
it's
a
different
version
and
it
can
be
kind
of
plug
and
play
and
you
unfortunately,
it's
better
for
worse.
A
That's
something
I
can
handle
within
a
set
time
period.
I
know
in
your
Workshop.
Sometimes
you
have
it
where
you
want
to
do
a
really
cool
Workshop,
but
things
happen
along
that
process.
That
kind
of
stifle
things
or
else
it
does.
It
creates
a
lot
of
stress,
maybe
with
the
group,
but
if
you
can
have
a
complete
project.
A
A
There's
the
rally
fighter
I
think
there's
the
velocar
that
York
was
working
on
as
well
as
I
forget
the
other
company
organization
you
referred
to
in
your
earlier
days,
but
like
with
my
open
house
party
program,
I
kind
of
like
to
refer
to
like
that
as
its
own
module
with
like
the
car
stuff
and
just
explore
the
Velo
car
I
forget
the
name
of
the
company
organization.
You
were
originally
starting
with
as
well,
but
then
there's
also
the
rally
fighter
from
I.
A
Forget
that
company's
name
and
open
source
Tabby,
but
just
smaller
projects
you
can
do
to
completion,
but
can
be
like
scaled
up
at
a
further
Workshop
later
on.
So
that
way,
you
finish
a
product.
People
can
take
something
home,
but
then
you
can
really
let
people's
appetite
for
that
Library.
That's
being
developed
for
a
bigger
production
development.
C
B
B
A
If
you
give
away
your
knowledge,
then
you
also
in
some
cases
impede
someone's
way
of
living
to
an
extent
and
I
know.
That's
a
very
debatable
issue,
because
you
can
debate
it
both
sides
an
extent,
but
it
can
be
a
bit
of
contention
in
working
with
people
when,
like
it
kind
of
erodes
from
their
business
model
in
some
ways.
A
So
that's
not
something
I
want
to
harp
on
you
on,
but
I've
kind
of
been
harped
on
myself
about
that
conflict
of
interest
of
Open
Source
versus
like
survival,
making
a
living
of
what
someone
else's
business
model
is
on
and
when
you
start
doing
that,
like
in
the
for-profit
industry
like
say,
GM
and
Ford,
or
something
else,
there
can
be
a
bit
of
attention
with
that
market
value
or
sometimes
on
an
unhealthy
version.
There's
non-profits
competing
I,
ideally
in
the
healthy
version,
It's
finding
common
ground
and
collaborating
to
create
more
value.
B
A
So
that's
something
that
I
have
to
recognize,
because
not
everyone
wants
to
do
open
source
stuff
and
there's
some
things
that
I
don't
necessarily
also
want
to
do
open
source
stuff,
like,
for
example,
with
the
for-profit
when
I'm
taking
out
a
lot
of
debt
or
trying
to
utilize
that,
for
my
private
benefit,
because
there's
a
difference
between
like
non-profit
rules
and
for-profit
rules,
I
think
a
big
issue
for
next
time.
Not
this
time.
But
next
time
is
with
my
nonprofit
side.
A
So
people
want
to
come
back
and
feel
like
they're,
a
part
of
the
community
and
create
ongoing
value,
that's
sustainable
and
Lasting.
It
makes
a
lasting
impact
yeah
because
there's
some
of
that
social
dynamics
that
comes
with
experience
that
I'm
sure
you're
a
bit
more
well
versed
on.
So
once
again,
it's
not
not
as
it's
not
enough
time
to
go
over
it
now,
but
just
that
was
a
big
issue.
A
A
B
A
A
Yours
and
weekends,
for
example,
for
affordable
housing
and
kind
of
exploring
that
regards
so
things
that
serves
like
within
your
server
having
to
design
the
pub
domain.
People
like
myself
can
reference
that
in
improving
their
own
well-being
and
being
their
own
basic
needs,
and
so
that's
something.
That's
a
bit
more,
a
little
Divergent
to
focusing
solely
on
Open
Source
Hardware.
A
B
A
Good
all
right!
Well,
you
enjoy
your
weekend,
what's
left
of
it
Martian
and
thanks
again
for
the
interview
and
if
you
could
just
send
me,
this
video
recording
on
the
mega
file
I
think
I
sent
you
okay
and
I'll
post
in
your
free
to
post
this.
You
have
my
consent
to
post
this
on
your
site
and
it's
her
an
enjoyable.