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A
B
I
know
sarah,
how
are
you
doing
long
time?
It's
been
a
while
yeah
apologies
for
having
missed
several
in
a
row
now.
B
C
C
All
right,
so
what
yeah
we
did.
Let
me
pull
this
up.
B
B
I
I
got
a
custom
package
mailed
to
me,
which
is
awesome,
so
I'm
super
stoked
about
it.
Oh
that's
so
cool,
but
if
we
ever
you
know,
go
three-dimensional
again,
I
will
bring
a
stack
of
observability
stickers
that
I
can
share
and
I
suspect
list
can
also
bring
stickers
to
share
or
do
you
maybe
not
have
them
there?
I
forget
now,
with
the
whole
I've.
E
Got
a
small
collection
of
them
in
vancouver
here
so
yeah,
but
I
have
not
yet
been
able
to
go
to
conferences
to
distribute
them
anyway.
Shall
we
agenda
yep.
F
Yeah
not
actually
sure
who
put
this
on
the
agenda,
but
I
do
believe
it's
fixed
and
I
don't
think
we
have
like
a
specific
point
of
contact.
Ezcla
has
a
github
repo
where
you
can
post
issues
and
there's
a
slack
channel
in
the
cncf
slack.
F
F
Yeah,
so
we
have
finally
finally
secured
a
space,
sorry
that
took
a
while
there's
some
round
and
rounds
with
the
cncf
about
you
know.
If
we,
if
we
make
an
event,
is
it
a
community
event?
Does
it
have
to
be
hosted
on
some
kind
of
cncf
platform
or
not?
F
F
F
Just
you
know,
no
good
deed
goes
unpunished,
ted.
F
Yes,
we're
gonna
roll
out
sponsorship
packages
next
week.
What
we
were
thinking
was,
I
have
to
get
the
exact
numbers
from
mango,
but
I
believe
we
were
looking
at
like.
If
we
had
20k
packages,
then
five
or
six
of
them
would
cover
the
event.
F
We're
sure
that
there
are
probably
some
people
who
want
to
sponsor
who
maybe
20k
couldn't
cover
and
maybe
having
a
couple
of
one-off,
like
coffee
service
sponsorship
or
something
for
5k
to
accommodate
those
groups,
so
we'll
get
that
out
next
week
and
and
try
to
get
a
website
and
registration
page
up
for
the
whole
affair.
F
C
F
I
wanted
to
raise
that
with
the
group
I
haven't
talked
to
cncf
in
general
about
what
they're
thinking
constance
can
answer.
I.
B
F
G
D
B
Answer
because
I
got
the
I
got
this
inside
scoop
on
the
board
meetings,
discussion
of
it
and
the
bit
that
I
know
is
that
the
staff
seem
to
be
very
committed
to
having
a
hybrid
event,
and
they
will
have
to
shift
that
if
the
you
know,
local
government,
however
local
or
regional,
says
don't
so,
but
that
is
right
now.
As
of
the
board
meeting,
I
think
a
week
ago
was
the
only
way
that
it
would
not
have
both
an
in-person
and
a
hybrid
or
an
in-person
and
a
virtual
version.
B
B
B
F
B
Yes,
that's
that's
correct.
If
you
are
vaccinated,
you
are
still
shedding
the
virus
at
the
same
rate,
which
was
also
a
surprise
in
this.
So
the
bob
walked
her
thread
last
in
in
the
last
week
about
the
updates
in
delta
and
lambda,
and
how
he's
changing
his
own
he's
ucsf.
B
He
he
is,
how
he's
changing
his
own
behaviors
over
the
next
bit
is
really
remarkable
and
important.
Reading
there's
also
now
a
lambda
variant
that
is
showing
all
sorts
of
you
know,
complexities
as
well,
but
yeah.
Basically,
all
the
things
we
used
to
know
about
kovid
are
now
not
not
quite
as
stable
with
delta,
because
you
know
it's.
The
15
minutes
is
now
more
like
five.
The
r
the
r
factor
has
gone
from
like
three
to
six
or
something.
So
it's
it's
changed
and
I
don't
expect
us.
E
C
G
G
F
Is
just
do
we
feel
like
with
our
own
risk
assessment,
that
we
want
to
to
go
ahead
and
do
this.
F
F
F
That's
you
know
just
we're
thinking
about
and
then
you
know
we'll
be
like
doing
roundtable
discussions.
Everyone
will
be
vaccinated.
Presumably
we
could
still
require
masks,
even
if
that's
annoying,
but
I
do
think
I
just
think
it's
fair
to
to
bring
it
to
the
group
before
before
we
go
public
with
this.
Just
to
like
confirm
that
if
kubecon
is
on,
we
want
to
be
on,
and
you
know
everyone
sponsoring
it
has
the
understanding
that
it
might
just
be
a
wash.
C
E
The
question
is:
what
are
the
things
that
we
would
do
above
and
beyond
what
kubecon
is
requiring
in
order
to
keep
our
attendees
safe
right.
G
E
Our
you
know,
to
what
extent
are
we
going
to
enforce?
You
know
masking
social
distancing
right
like
right
should?
Can
we
you
know,
for
instance,
maybe
it
is.
It
is
a
good
idea
to
give
people
and
95
masks
like
literally
give
give
you
you
are
going
to
wear
this
n95
mask
like
it
is
much
better
protection
than
a
than
right.
Yep.
F
Yep
we
we
could
do
that
social
distancing.
We,
I
think
we
need
to
double
check
how
that
affects
our
capacity.
So
that's
another
thing
to
look
at.
I
do
think
our
capacity
is
lower
than
what
the
space
can
hold.
F
Thinking
about
that,
but
you
know
yeah,
like
roundtable
discussion,
I
don't
know
if
there's
really
any
different
than
wandering
around
a
conference
with
people,
but
you
know
so
yeah
I
think,
masks
vaccinations
and
confirming,
with
the
confirming,
with
the
hotel,
like
the
space
that
that
our
capacity
would
match,
having
like
essentially
we'll
need,
like
larger
tables
or
larger
circles,
with
few
fewer.
G
F
So
I
think
that's
some
homework.
We
have
to
go
back
and
do
and
just
double
check
how
we
had
calculated
that
out
with
them
yeah
so,
but
does
are
people
feel
like
we
should
try
to
do
this
if
kubecon
is
on,
does
anyone
like
we
should
just
pull
the
plug
on
this?
I.
G
G
C
Matter
what
we
should
do
that.
F
F
It
would
be
better
to
do
it
in
person
with
the
virtual
aspect
being
like
a
devrel
booth
like
doing
you
know,
live
streaming,
interacting
with
people
on
twitter
being
like
a
kind
of
liaison,
or
something
like
that.
If
we
go
virtual,
then
we
go
100
virtual,
okay
and
use
like
you
know
those
like
there's
like
this
town
hall.
F
You
know
town
square
pool
right.
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
seen
it
where
you're
kind
of
walking
around.
F
We
use
that,
along
with
like
a
hop-in
plug-in,
but
that
town
hall
thing
setting
up
one
of
those
to
have
a
whole
bunch
of
little
breakout
rooms
would
be
assuming
it
can
handle.
The
load
would
be
a
way
to
to
have
the
same
kind
of
event
virtually
so
so
that's
that's
the
thing
it's
just.
You
know
the
pain
in
the
butt
of
setting
up
a
big
contingency
plan
and
not
using
it.
B
C
F
F
Then
yeah,
I
think,
like
a
a
virtual
version
of
it,
would
would
definitely
be
more
inclusive
and
feasible.
So
yeah.
B
F
Yeah
exactly
I
don't
know
how
hard
it
is
to
set
up
that
town
square
stuff,
but
it's
sort
of
like
yeah.
I
forgot
to
do
it
anyways.
Maybe
we
should
just
just
call
it
call
it
now
and
so.
B
What
about
this,
what
if
we
were
to
what,
if
we
were
to
have,
I
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
space
all
day
if
we
don't
end
up
using
it.
Ideally,
but
oh,
that's
a
good
question:
have
we
paid
the
hotel
yet
have
we
committed
yeah.
F
I
I
will
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
I
know
we
did
secure
the
space
already,
but
I
don't
know
exactly.
G
G
I
will
constantly
double
check
with.
A
B
F
F
Have
it
or
is
actually
that's
like
a
terrible
time,
because
now
everyone's
competing
competing
in
a
hotel
room
and
competing,
or
something
like
that
so
so
this
is.
This
has
been
really
helpful,
I'll
figure
out
where
we're
at
and
I'll
report
back
to
you
all
on
slack.
B
Okay,
cool
one
further
point:
just
the
we
can
still
have
in
an
in
in
person.
I
don't
know
meet
up
in
the
evenings
or
you
know
a
buff
or
something
even
if
we
don't
do
a
full
day,
zero
event
in
person.
So
you
know
like
we
have
options.
C
B
C
B
But
I
know
I'm
really
suspicious
that
we'll
all
be
flying
to
l.a
in
two
months,
extremely.
B
B
G
B
E
Will
we
get
a
refund
if,
if,
if
cncf
cancels.
F
I
think
it's
no,
I
think
it's
separate
we're
we're
directly
negotiating
with
the
hotel.
They
just
had
to
get
kubecon
to
release
like
a
stage
they
had
put
on
the
space.
Somehow
I
don't
know
it
was
got
it
right.
F
F
Yeah,
I
really
don't
know
I
mean
maybe
they're
playing
chicken
too,
and
if
they're
going
to
be
like
hard
about
it,
then
everyone's
going
back
forward
you're
going
to
have
you're
guaranteeing
you
have
no
events
so
yep.
So
who
knows
the
the
the
money
is
in
the
the
food
and
the
coffee
service
and
everything
yeah.
F
Yeah,
this
is
a
very
helpful
I
will.
I
will
get
back
to
you
all
shortly
with
some
answers.
D
F
Yeah
yeah
should
I
go
ahead,
for
instance,.
D
No,
I
was
gonna
just
say
there
was
a
lot
of
really
good
hotel
talks
and
I
felt
really
bad
we're
just
like.
We
need
other
projects
too.
F
F
Yeah
so
I
had
the
maintainers
track.
Talk
accepted
so
that'll
be
me
and
milla
from
from
microsoft,
discussing
native
native
instrumentation,
with
oco
cool.
G
All
right
and
then
later
you
suggested
we
do
a
blog
post
to
publish
a
list
of
the
talks.
I
think
it's
a
really
good.
C
Instead
of
trying
to
go
and
look
for
stuff
on
the
schedule
so
yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
nice
to
do
and
the
second
post
I
was
gonna
suggest
is.
We
are
again
been
working
closely
with
bogdan
now
that
he's
back
and
the
collector,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
work.
That's
happening,
we're
almost
close
to
tracing
stability,
so
we'll
be
doing
a
release
and
then
a
blog
post
so
just
wanted
to
close
that
loop,
so
that
we
have
that
declared
on
our
posts
and
then
metrics
coming
right
up.
F
Yeah
and
logs
too,
actually
that
the
logging
group
is
is,
is
working
pretty
fast,
actually,
yeah.
C
Yeah
and
we've
also
started
two
really
cool
work
groups
ebpf
and
we
were
all
there
for
the
initial
discussion,
really
good
group
of
people.
You
know
working
on
ebpf
and
really
you
know,
starting
to
think
about.
What's
going
to
be
added
in
terms
of.
G
C
On
the
collector,
and
also
the
bpf
flowmetal
component,
that
stunk
team
has
landed
and
the
second
web
group
that
we
have
started,
we
have
kicked
off
as
the
instrumentation
sig.
We
have
already
started
having
discussions
with
microsoft,
aws
and
new
relic
folks
also
joining
in
for
some
of
the
instrumentation.
C
You
know
what
do
we
do?
How
do
we
get
organized
and
then
the
sig
meetings
will
start
the
week
next
week,
so
ted
just
fyi,
we've
been
already
starting
to
do
some
work
on
on
adding
more
detail
to
the
different
sections.
Oh.
F
Good
yeah
there
hasn't
been
a
lot
of
people
showing
up
at
the
the
afternoon
spec
meeting.
So
that's
yeah.
C
So
we
will,
I,
I
think,
we'll
pick
up
steam
there's
a
fair
bit
of
you
know,
work
happening
to
just
get
organized
and
then
there
are
specific
sections
that
you
know.
Each
team
wants
to
work
on
and
dive
upon
and
there's
some
work
that
we've
already
started
doing
in
terms
of
oteps,
and
you
know,
changes
in
addition
of
for
auto
instrumentation
in
java.
So
there's
again,
we'll
kind
of
coalesce
all
those
efforts
into
the
sig
discussions
as
we
go
forward
so
just
wanted
to.
You
know,
make
sure
everybody's
aware
of
that.
F
Yeah
definitely
make
that
more
public,
please,
because
that's
yeah.
C
C
All
right,
that's
all
I
had,
and
then
there
is
a
sega
did
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
the
sorry
I
I
did
not
add
this,
but
I
just
wanted
an
update
on
what's
happening
happening
with
sql
commenter,
because
we
have
interest
in
you
know,
starting
to
work
on
that
together.