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B
C
B
Looks
pink
and
I
had
to
move
the
video
over
to
my
monitor.
I
have
two
decent
monitors
on
the
right
and
then
I
have
this
weird
teleprompter
thingy
over
here,
but
the
teleprompter
thingy,
the
colors
are
not
so
fantastic.
Oh.
B
Yeah
yeah
I
know
it
was
a
2020
when
I
was
presenting
a
conferences
for
Google.
It
was
common
for
me,
so
nice
I
don't
recommend
one
it's
cumbersome
and
takes
up
a
lot
of
space.
Oh.
B
Yeah
I
mean
this,
achieves
that
my
desktop
just
sees
it
as
another
monitor
and
has
properly
reversed
and
everything.
But
it's
I,
don't
know,
24
inch
monitor
and
then
with
all
the
glass
and
everything
around
is
huge,
but
yeah.
That
seems.
C
A
D
Hi
folks,
I
think
for
meetings
have
gotten
messed
up.
Somehow
yeah
factors
disappeared.
A
Now,
like
merging,
you
know
all
of
our
our
Google
stuff
into
Outlook
stuff,
which
is
a
bit
like
two
Star
Destroyers
merging.
B
E
B
A
So
this
is
this
is
me:
I
can
share
my
screen
here
and
just
kind
of
just
briefly
walk
through
this.
This
is
just
a
request
for
for
input.
I've
already
been
talking
to
the
TC
about
this
I've
been
going
to
the
TC
weekly,
now
weekly
TC
meetings,
just
the
the
long
and
the
short
of
it
is.
You
know
where
the
project
was
small.
We
were
doing
most
of
the
work
and
so
kind
of
like
our
definitions
and
our
structures
were
kind
of
loose.
A
Now
the
Project's
grown
really
big
and
a
lot
of
the
spec
working
groups
are
now
staffed
almost
entirely
by
non-insider
non-otel
Insider
people
and
that's
been
having
some
hiccups
around
those
groups
like
actually
like
getting
traction
and
getting
things
over
the
finish
line,
so
that
was
kind
of
like
the
main
prompting
to
feel
like
there.
There
are
some
one
part
of
the
process
is
like
getting
things
approved
and
that
can
only
only
the
tce
can
do
that
so
kind
of
further
clarifying.
A
You
know
how
that
works
along
with
like
how
we
Define
our
priorities
and
like
Define.
A
road
map
which
is
I
know
something
you've
been
working
on
Morgan,
so
this
is
just
a
doc
that
tries
to
kind
of
capture
that
whole
bundle
of
stuff
into
a
single
place.
Why
why
we
need
to
improve
you
know
our
Public
Road
mapping
process
and
have
a
little
bit
more
project
management
and
it
kind
of
comes
down
to.
A
We
only
have
so
many
TC
members
and
spec
approvers,
and
if
we
aren't
intentional
about
spinning
these
working
groups
up,
we
end
up
getting
spread
really
thin.
So
we
just
need
a
better
process,
for
you
know,
choosing
what
we're
going
to
work
on
and
making
sure
that
when
we
do
spin-up
working
groups,
you
know
we
have
like
TC
and
spec
appruiter
involvement,
so
that
the
proposals
when
they
actually
do
make
it
to
the
public
review
period
are
something
you
know.
A
So
so
this
is
just
kind
of
I
won't
go
over
it
all
in
detail,
because
we
have
a
short
meeting,
but
it's
mostly
just
pointing
out
that
we
need
to
allocate
responsibilities
a
bit
more
consciously
and
just
requesting
proposals
and
comments
from
people
about
how
to
do.
This.
A
There's
also
some
questions
about.
You
know
like
how
large
should
the
TC
be
given
that
this
is
like,
if,
if
like
spec
work,
is
programs
like
the
TC
or
like
the
the
CPU
threads,
that
the
programs
can
run
on
so
like
how
big
the
TC
is
is
like
a
good
question
to
ask,
like?
Is
the
TC
the
right
size
right
now?
A
If
the
project
grows
larger
and
starts
to
include
things
like
profiling
and
stuff
like
that,
should
the
TC
also
get
larger
and
one
another
thing
that
came
up
was
clarifying
kind
of
like
minimum
time
requirements
for
the
TC,
both
for
two
reasons,
one
just
to
to
kind
of
make
it
clear
if
we're
going
to
have
a
limited
size
to
the
TC,
making
sure
the
people
who
are
on
it
have
an
understanding
of
like
what
the
time
availability
needs
to
be.
A
Also
to
help
people
getting
over
committed
to
too
many
projects
by
their
employers.
A
thing
that
came
up
talking
to
some
TC
members
is:
it
would
be
helpful
when
they're
talking
with
their
managers
to
have
a
sign
on
the
wall.
They
could
point
to
saying,
as
a
TC
member
they're
expected
to
spend
this
amount
of
time,
also
that
they're
expected
to
work
on
things
that
are
on
the
open,
Telemetry
roadmap,
regardless
of
whether
that
happens
to
be
on
the
internal
roadmap
of
their
employer.
A
A
And
be
like,
if
I'm
the
proceeds
you
get
from
me
being
on,
the
TC
also
means
I
have
to
like
you
know,
do
these
things
and
then
last
but
not
least
like
what
are
or
action
items
that
we
need
to
do.
A
We
have
a
whole
big
pile
of
active
working
groups
at
the
moment,
so
just
getting
sponsors
onto
these
working
groups
and
kind
of
rebooting,
some
of
them
to
having
deadlines
and
deliverables
I
think
will
help
clear
the
deck
of
all
this
current
work,
and
then
we
also
kind
of
need
to
start
thinking
about
what
we
want
to
cue
up
after
we
clear
enough
of
this
off
of
our
plate,
that
we
have.
A
You
know
bandwidth
to
take
on
board
projects,
and
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
this
kind
of
like
filled
out
with
proposals
or
people's
thoughts
before
we
meet
at
The
gctc
Summit,
so
that
we
could
use
our
time
meeting
there
to
be
like
discuss
not
coming
up
with
proposals
but
but
deciding
you
know
what
it
is.
We
actually
want
to
do
so.
So
that's
my
request.
If
people
have
time,
please
comment
on
this
doc.
A
If
you
have
ideas
for
proposals,
you
know
or
you
see
anything
missing,
please
please
go
ahead
and
add
it
either
directly
or
you
know
as
a
a
comment
or
a
suggestion.
D
That's
great
Ted
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
good
talk,
so
we
can
definitely
add
to
it.
A
I've
been
I've
been
going
to
the
TC
And
discussing
this
with
them,
I
don't
but
I,
don't
know
how
much
we've
talked
about
it,
because
the
not
people
have
been
kind
of
like
rotating
in
and
out
of
those
meetings,
but
I
did
get
like
I
think
general
buy-in
from
the
TC
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
to
kind
of
sort
this
stuff
out
and
at
the
last
meeting
yesterday
said,
I
would,
as
the
next
step
open
it
up
to
the
GC
for
comment
and
so
I'll
post
this
in
the
gctc
channel
after
we're
after
this
minute
meeting
is
done.
E
I'm
I
was
not
able
to
join
yesterday
because
I'm
I'm
out
of
power,
Palo
Alto,
don't
have
power.
Oh.
D
E
The
entire
Menlo
Park
Atherton
and
bunch
of
Redwood
City
Palo
Alto
Stanford
military
Stanford,
was
out
so.
E
We
we
are
coming
back
a
bit,
we
are
still
not
power.
E
E
A
And
quantity
of
typical
Portland
fashion,
acquaintances.
B
B
A
D
C
Added
this
there's
not
really
much
to
talk
about.
I
meant
I
wasn't
at
the
meeting
last
week,
so
I
don't
know
if
it
was
discussed
or
not,
but
I
filled
out
the
schedule.
Nobody
has
commented
on
it
other
than
to
ask
to
push
the
time
back
until
10
o'clock
on
the
first
day.
So
I
did
that
I'm
gonna
assume
the
lack
comments
means
that
everybody
is
generally
at
least
happy
enough
with
it
that
I
can
send
it
to
the
TC
as
well
and
we'll
just
we'll
go
from
there.
C
A
Ice
cream
and
fin
coffee
is
that
the
coffee
bar
you.
A
Showing
up
during
our
salad
bar
week.
A
D
C
Well,
they
were,
they
were
TVD
based
on
what
happens
on
the
first
day.
So
the
first
day
is
mostly
I,
guess
a
brainstorming
day
and
then
I
think
we'll
assign
topics
for
Wednesday
at
the
end
of
Tuesday.
D
What
about
the
folks
who
were
remotely
joining
in
from
the
TC,
for
example,
because
I
think
wasn't
that
the
discussion
that
we
wanted
to
kind
of
at
least
have
time
sections
available
so
that
books,
the
TC,
could
join
in.
C
I
mean
yeah
I'd
love
to
but
I
mean
maybe
maybe
the
TC
and
project
management
proposal
that
Ted
just
brought
up
can
be
scheduled
and
advanced,
but
I
think
the
rest
of
the
day
is
likely
to
be
I.
Think
we're
going
to
focus
on
that
stuff.
For
almost
the
entire
time
yeah
I
mean
I
yeah.
C
I
think
the
company
of
the
dog
as
much
as
possible,
but
yeah
sure
I,
don't
know
how
possible
it
is
to
to
schedule
an
advance.
We've
tried
twice
now:
Morgan.
D
A
D
D
But
I
mean:
should
we
allocate
a
time,
for
you
know,
tigrant
to
be
able
to
join
and
participate
in
the
Doc
review,
for
example,
with
dead
stock
or
yeah
yeah
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
D
C
Primary
concern
with
saying
this
section
or
like
this
block
of
time
concerns
the
TC
is
that
that
implies
that
the
rest
of
the
time
doesn't
I.
Think
all
of
the
time
involves
everybody,
and
you
know
it's
not
I've,
given
people
like
six
weeks
of
advancements,
if
even
if
you're,
remote,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
too
much
to
ask
yeah.
A
How
about
this
as
a
kind
of
dynamic
allocation
of
time,
just
the
the
first
time
block
during
this
whole
thing
when
we
happen
to
get
what
looks
like
maximum
TC
participation
like
whenever
that
happens?
Can
we
just
make
sure
to
use
that
first
block
that
shows
up
to
talk
about
this
TC
spec
project
management,
stuff.
C
C
I,
don't
know
I,
think
most
of
the
TC
is
in
the
same
time
zone.
So
it
should
be
okay,
but
if
there's
any
East
Coast
based,
it
may
be
better
to
push
that
towards
the
morning.
C
D
D
Yeah
that
sounds
good
Daniel,
Daniel
I
have
a
quick
question,
though
I'm
assuming
you
know,
you
posted
the
the
invites
on
the
tcgc
channel
right
for
these.
For,
for
this
schedule
to
be
reviewed
and
then
confirming
participation,
was
it
just
lack
of
response
or
was
it
that
they
said
folks
couldn't
join?
Nobody.
D
C
C
D
D
And
Armin
is
joining
in
logdon's
already
there.
So
you
know
again,
who
are
the
rest
of
the
folks
who
have
not
responded.
B
D
B
One
last
topic:
do
we
know
who
has
the
credentials
for
our
existing
AWS
account
we're
adding
some
some
Lambda
related
things
too.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
someone
has
the
credits.
B
D
B
No
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
it
wasn't
some
orphaned
thing
where
everyone
had
lost
it.
So.
D
If
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
was
raised
and
again,
I'll
just
call
it
out
here
is
that
you
know
the
administration
of
credits
for
using
AWS
or
gcp
again
has
been
a
continuous
issue
that
has
also
been
brought.
D
Steering
committee
also
to
the
cncf
talk,
TRC
and
and
ta
staff
and
and
their
response
has
been,
that
they
don't
have
enough
program
management
to
be
able
to
support.
You
know
one-on-one
right,
but,
however,
it's
an
ongoing
issue
because
there
is,
there
are
a
lot
of
credits
which
are
available,
but
the
projects
don't
have
access
to
it.
It.