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A
D
D
B
B
D
Ask
me
to
propose
a
new
time
which
sends
them
an
email
back,
that
the
outlook
client
sort
of
understands
how
to
deal
with
and
gives
you
a
proposition.
But
you
can't
just
like
let
them
edit
it
because
it
doesn't
you
as
a
receiver
of
a
meeting,
don't
necessarily
know
all
of
the
recipients
of
it,
and
so
it
would
try
and
update
everyone
else's.
But
it
might
miss
a
few
people
because
there's
no
like
database
with
just
a
meeting
entry
in
it
where
it's,
where
it's
just
like
referencing.
It.
A
C
A
D
C
D
A
Yeah
yeah,
it
should
be
gmt
that
don't
work
anyway.
What
I
was
going
to
say,
regardless
of
which
time
zone
we're
using
it's
soon.
A
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
concerned
that
are
there
a
few
like
vendors
that
have
historically
expressed
interest
in
being
on
the
gc
that
didn't
have
anyone
apply
agreed.
I
feel
like
as
the
person
who's
theoretically
on
on
the
gc
running
the
election,
which
is
what
I'm
doing
it's
sort
of
inappropriate
for
me
to
like.
Send
them
messages
encouraging
them
to
apply,
but
I
also
feel
like
they
just
missed
it.
I'm
curious
if
people
here
have
this
proposed
solution
to
that,
because
I
don't
I
mean
I
just
want
to
make
sure
they
didn't.
A
D
Daniel
daniel
ran.
E
No
I'm
aware
this
meeting
is
being
recorded,
but
I
I
think
I
am
concerned
that
datadog's
involvement
has
a
little
bit
has
been
a
little
bit
ambivalent.
Besides
the
committing
the
all
their
integrations
right
like-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
what
their
broader
strategy
is
around
hotel
right
and
I
think
that
would
influence
what
they
used
to
do.
A
Yeah
I
mean,
as
I
said,
it's
completely
totally
up
to
them.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
they
literally
know
that
it's
happening
it's
it's
just
that
it's
just
simply
a
matter
of
whether
or
not
they
got
the
memo
that
this
is
happening.
It's
not
about
whether
what
their
strategy
is
or
whatever
that's
for
them
to
decide.
Yeah.
E
C
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
to
elon
and
just
say:
hey,
don't
forget
this
is
we
need.
We
need
this
today.
If,
if
you
want
someone
to
run
for
the
governing
board,.
A
That
would
be
great,
I
think
anyway,
but
some
other
people
are
okay
with
it.
I
don't
know
I
mean
it,
it's
not.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
that's
a
problem
is,
but
that's
maybe.
C
Where
we
drew
the
line
in
kubernetes
just
to
know,
because
this
is
my
standard-
is
that
steering
committee
members
could
reach
out
and
say
I
really
think
you
should
apply
and
then
they
are
not
allowed
to
be
the
person
who
like
goes
ahead
and
pushes
it
through
or
approves
it,
and
so
there
just
needs
to
be
more
engagement,
and
then
that
person
who
was
on
the
steering
committee,
because
the
whole
steering
committee
said
we're
not
going
to
do
any
electioneering.
C
We
we
wouldn't
talk
about
any
of
the
candidates
publicly.
So
privately
to
this
person
was
fine,
you
know
hey,
but
not
any
sort
of
public
advocacy
kind
of.
C
We
we
did
do
the
ratification,
but
not
if
you
had
requested
someone.
I
think
I
think
that
was
the
split
we
allowed
steering
committee
members
to
ratify.
Although
I
I
mean
this
is
totally
up
to
this
community.
We
could
not,
because
there
is
a
greater
weight
of
endorsement
from
this
from
this
committee.
A
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
for
I'm
personally
in
my
stance
would
be
that
it's
ratification
is
different
than
like.
If
it's
more
of
a
binary
thumbs
up
kind
of
thing,
I
think
that's
fine.
I
do
think
it's
inappropriate
for
gc
sitting
gc
members
to
advocate
and
like
to
structure
an
argument
around
why
one
person
or
another
is
more
qualified.
That
seems
like
the
line
I
would
draw.
C
The
challenge
is,
if
we
don't
end
up,
you
know
putting
a
thumbs
up
on
every
candidate
which
maybe
that's
the
answers,
maybe
after
the
ratification
from
two
other
people,
the
gc
goes
through
and
I
don't
know
don't
know
that
we
have
to.
I
think
we're
overthinking
this
at
this
point
until
there's
a
problem.
A
Okay,
but
you'll
reach
out
to
man.
It
sounds
like
yep.
F
A
Yeah,
that's
totally
fair.
I
frankly
was
surprised,
but
but
it's
I
think
it's
evidence
that,
like
would
have
been
a
mistake
to
go
to
13.
That's
for
sure,
yeah.
C
D
Yeah
and-
and
I
think,
there's
also
others
like
if
I
look
at
like
new
relic
and
dynatrace-
who
I
kind
of
initially,
would
have
expected,
they
would
have
proposed
two
people
each
to
go
on,
but
they
now
have
people
on
the
technical
committee,
which
is
where
most
like
technical
discussions
are
happening
and
where
most
technical
decisions
are
being
made,
and
so
they're
probably
quite
satisfied
with
that.
D
If
I
had
to
guess
something,
we'd
have
to
ask
someone
from
there
to
know
for
certain,
but
I
I
don't
necessarily
view
the
lack
of
candidates
as
an
extremely
negative
thing.
Given
that
we
have
so
much
like
participation.
The
specs
group
participate
like
new
people
applying
to
join
the
tc
and
being
let
in
like
it's
a
healthy,
growing
community,
and
it's
like
this
is
the
only
signal
that
suggests
otherwise.
So
I'm
starting
to
think
like
it
might
just
be
that
everyone's
happy
with
the
current
state
of
affairs.
B
Yeah
I
was
talking
to
priyanka
about
from
cncf
and
like
at
first
she's.
Like
oh,
oh
tell
what
I'm
like.
No
like
that's
going
well
and
she
had
a
meeting
with
since
we're
recording.
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it
was
like
some
user
and
they're,
like
oh
wow,
actually
like
they're,
really
happy
with,
like
they're,
very
happy
with
the
progress
of
hotel
and
they
feel
like
it's
a
really
well
balanced,
such
a
community,
and
so
it
doesn't
actually
have
that
impression.
Maybe
like
no
like
impression
to
say
vendor
in
fighting
and
stuff
like
that.
B
F
A
B
Well,
it's
actually
pretty
small,
it's
more
just
to
address
like
elena's
comment
where
they're
like
asking
for
project
roadmap
and
we
have
that
project
status
page,
but
it
doesn't
really
tell
us
where
we're
going,
and
so
we
might
like.
We
might
just
need
to
be
a
little
more
conscious
about
like
showing
people
where
we
want
to
go,
or
at
least
like
we
know.
We
know
we're
talking
about
ga,
but
at
least
like
there
is
that
future.
B
B
Yeah,
that's
a
better
word
to
say
or
more
something
we
should
probably
think
about
in
terms
of
how
well,
I
guess,
we'll
also
see
what
the
tc's
toc
says
for
feedback
yeah.
It's
a
tiny.
D
All
right,
I
will,
if
I
have
time
the
next
few
weeks
two
weeks,
I
will
try
and
put
something
together
for
that,
I'm
doing
an
equivalent
effort
internally
for
a
roadmap
for
all
of
our
overall
instrumentation,
but
once
I've
done
that,
I
should
have
some
time
to
do
like
an
open,
telemetry
project.
One.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
say
if
this
is
the
last
thing,
I
think
anyone
who
doesn't
care
and
wants
time
back
is
free
to
leave.
But
if
the
topic
is
basically
like,
okay,
this
fellow
lucas
at
cncf
was
kind
enough
to
run
some
crazy
sql
query
and
I
now
have
a
list
of
github
committers
that
have
more
than
20
contributions,
including
issue
comments
and
so
on
last
year,
and
then
all
and
then
we
get
the
emails
from
the
commit
logs
in
some.
A
The
emails-
the
question
here
is
by
sergey,
although
it's
sad
because
you're
the
one
person
who
did
this
last
year,
but
the
question
is
like
we,
we
want
to
do
a
survey
as
part
of
the
dni
effort
and
also
just
as
a
way
to
you
know
gauge
various
other
things.
The
cert
I
can
send
the
link.
If
you
all,
are
curious
as
part
of
the
election
process.
A
A
What
I'm
proposing
is
and
pay
attention
is
that
we
create
an
issue
with
people
who
do
not
have
email
addresses,
registered
and
at
mention
all
of
them
and
say,
if
you
don't
give
us
your
email
address,
you
can't
vote,
although
you're
entitled
to
so.
Please
send
your
email
address
to
the
governance
committee
or
whatever
we
can
decide
where
the
email
would
go
and
we'll
use
that
for
voting
for
the
rest
of
folks,
basically
send
them
some
kind
of
automated
thing
where
they
can
select.
A
If
they
have
multiple
email
addresses
they
can
select,
which
one
they
want
to
use
for
the
election.
If
they
don't
select
one
we're
gonna,
just
guess
and
you
know
so,
be
it
and
then
at
that
point
we'll
have
one
email
address
per
voter
and
then
we
basically
say
you
know
we're
gonna,
send
you
the
cibs
link
as
part
of
that
survey.
It's
going
to
say,
like
pretty.
Please
honor
system
fill
out
the
survey
as
part
of
voting
you
don't
have
to,
but
it
would
be
really
nice.
A
C
Only
the
technical
one
of
how
do
we
make
a
thing
that
allows
them
to
allows
them
to
pick
which
address
they
want,
and
I
mean
this
sounds
like
a
fair
bit
of
automation
to
me
already
so
either
we're
writing
it
or
we're
reading
it
in
300
lines.
C
D
A
A
We
can
have
one
mega
github
issue
where
we
mentioned
everybody,
which
I
can
easily
script
up,
that
piece
of
text
and
then
send
everyone,
an
email,
bcc
being
like
hey,
seriously,
read
this:
you
need
to
go
to
this
github
issue
and
follow
the
instructions
to
figure
out
which
email
you're
going
to
use,
and
then
they
register
their
address
that
way.
That
might
be
a
possible
solution
where
they
have
to
fill
out
a
form.
A
That's
just
their
github
handle
and
their
email
address
and
if
there's
any
kind
of
you
know
any
kind
of
double
counting
and
that
we
would
just
resolve
it
manually.
A
A
That
they
actually-
and
I
can
also
use
that
form
as
a
way
to
say
as
part
of
this,
please
go
and
visit
this
other
form
to
do
your
questionnaire.
C
A
A
Actually,
my
co-founder
is
friends
with
the
person
who
runs
that
and
lightstep
was
running
some
internal
pull
on
something
and
using
cibs
with
a
lot
of
options
and
we
actually
kind
of
broke
it.
We
created
like
a
computational
problem
with
it
and
we
it's
very
sophisticated
in
the
way,
but
also
like
using
some
very
old
technologies.
C
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
it.
B
All
right,
oh
a
kind
of
side
note
because
I'm
gonna
be
working
on
keynote
material
to
like
try,
including
something
from
hotel
other
things.
I
know
we
had
talked
about
like
one
reinforcing
that
hotel
is
actually
like.
There's
an
implementation
people
can
actually
use.
Is
there
anything
else
that
people
want
me
to
highlight
still
brainstorming
keynote
ideas,
so
you
know,
naturally
this
will
all
be
created
next
weekend
right
before
the
deadline.
B
Oh,
the
keynote's
gonna
be
november
is
through.
I
think
mine
is
going
on
the
19th
of
november,
but
I
have
to
record
it
for
the
26th.
D
So,
oh-
and
this
is
worth
mentioning
so
we're
going
to
issue
a
blog
post
next
wednesday,
that
the
tracing
spec
has
hit
release
candidate
status
by
the
equivalent
by
the
date
of
the
keynote
it's
possible.
That
metrics
will
also
the
metric
spec
limit
rc,
but
even
if
it
doesn't
we'll
certainly
have
ap
the
apis
and
sdks
for
most
languages
will
be
release
candidate
for
tracing.
D
So
that's
definitely
worth
mentioning
yeah
and
then
you'll
find
out.
If
we
manage
to
get
metrics
there
it's
possible,
but
but
I
wouldn't
count
on
it.
B
Okay,
I
can
get
stephen
because
steven's
gonna
be
introducing
me
and,
like
closing,
so
he
can
always
just
like,
oh
by
the
way
metro's
got
added
too
like
now,
you
can
go
check
out
the
blog
yep,
so
you
can
add
that
yeah,
if
there's
anything
you
think
of
ben.
I
still
haven't
watched
your
keynote
from
a
few
years
ago,
so
I'm
going
to
watch
that
before
I
come
up
with
anything.
I.
A
Yes,
actually,
the
only
thing
about
that
keynote
that
was
good
was
that
it
has
a
slide
pretty
early
on
of
like
a
flock
of
a
murmur
or
a
bunch
of
birds.
Basically-
and
it
was
in
those
giant,
you
know
halls
as
they
do
and
there
was
actually
a
pigeon
trapped
within
the
within
the
room
because
it
was,
I
don't
know
whatever,
and
it
saw
the
birds
in
the
sky
and
it
literally
I
had
this
thing
I
was
talking
it
was.
The
joke
was
like
albert
hitchcock.
A
The
birds
was
like
microservices
coming
to
kill
you,
and
this
bird
is
like
swooping
over
my
head
on
stage
like
an
actual
bird,
and
I
mean
it's
just
totally
unbelievable
and
people
thought
I
was
like
they're
like.
How
did
you
execute
that?
I
was
like
that
was
just
a
bizarre
coincidence,
like
really
bizarre,
but
all
yeah,
it's
it's
pretty
epic.
E
A
B
E
Off
and
by
the
way.
C
B
B
Yeah
everything's
almost
recorded
yeah
yeah
cool
I'll,
try
and
make
a
little
bird
to
put
on
my
shoulder
to
at
least
recreate
the
moment.