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A
B
You
know
I
still
like
really
hurting
after
that
debate
the
other
night,
but
that's
this
is
what
it
is.
I
don't
know
how
are.
A
You
yeah,
I
think
it's
better
to
describe
more,
but
I
feel
like
the
best
way
for
me
to
describe
how
I'm
doing
in
general,.
A
C
E
This
was
my
third
try
for
the
zoom
meeting,
because
I
have
so
many
different
calendar
items,
because
outlook
doesn't
play
well
with
google
calendar
and
sadness
ensues.
E
No,
I
don't
it
was
on
my.
It
was
on
my
list
to
dig
into
and
ask
some
questions
about,
but
I
have
not
actually
gotten
the
answers
yet.
C
Should
we
start,
we
do
have
a
quorum
it.
Let's
do
it.
I
put
two
things.
I
put
three
things
on
the
agenda
deleted,
one
because
I
think
sergey's
email
clarified
the
zoom
thing.
Well,
it's
still
a
little
confused,
but
it's
on
me
the
election
stuff.
C
Just
let
people
know
we
did
announce
the
like
process
on
getter
last
night,
which
is
the
thing
and
the
community
repo
has
this
like
election
2020
folder
and
you
can
look
in
there
and
see
what's
going
on,
but
the
short
version
for
everyone
here
is
that
the
nominations
open
up
next
week
and
close
the
week
after
that-
and
then
voting
happens
a
week
after
that,
and
it
will
all
be
wrapped
up
by
the
end
of
the
month.
C
I
would
encourage
you
just
to
like
sergey,
has
eagle
eyes
and
like
found
a
couple
of
issues
with
the
thing
I
started
with,
but
it
would
be
good
to
find
anything.
That's
like
actually,
the
spirit
of
it
is
all
fine,
but
if
there
are
any
issues
with
like
the
actual
logistics
of
it,
especially
those
of
us
who
are
around
for
the
last
one.
C
That
would
be
really
good
to
figure
out,
because
we
did
make
a
proposed
change
to
have
the
nominations
and
ratifications
happen
as
poll
requests,
rather
than
as
like
emails
into
the
gc.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
better
at
surrogate
suggestion,
but
if
someone
can
think
of
why
that's
going
to
be
a
disaster,
it
would
be
great
to
figure
that
out
now,
but
we
can
still
change
it
because
I
don't
want
to
end
up
with
something
where,
like
the
nomination
process,
is
a
total
train
wreck.
So
that's
my
request.
I
guess.
C
Yeah,
exactly
I'll
even
I'll,
even
put
something
in
this
live
chat.
C
And
one
other
question
about
that
is
just
this
survey
of
the
community
that
we
wanted
to
couple
with
the
elections,
I'm
in
a
bit
of
a
bind,
because
we
want
it
to
be
anonymous
because
it
involves
demographics,
but
we
also
want
it
to
be
kind
of
a
requirement
for
voting.
I
think
my
best
bet
right
now
is
to
force
people
through
a
registration
process
that
collects
their
email
address
and
then
just
to
have
like
big,
bold
text
that
just
says
like
honor
system.
Please
do
this
other
questionnaire.
C
It's
going
to
take
like
two
minutes,
and
just
I
don't
know
you
know
hope
that
people
do
it
all
the
demographic
questions
are
optional
anyway.
So
I
think
the
worst
thing
that
would
happen
is
that
we
would
lose
some
of
the
other
data.
But
if
anyone
has
any
other
suggestions
from
other
elections
like,
I
don't
want
to
like
write
a
web
app
for
this,
but
if
there's
some
way
to
use
like
existing
tools
and
technology
like
yeah,
what's
up
sarah,
the.
E
Civs
is
what
the,
unless
you're
talking
about
a
different
variation,
not
just
the
voting
piece.
C
C
E
I
don't
think
there's
the
the
smart
way
of
doing
it
is
that
kubernetes
goes
with
goes
and
pulls
data
from
github.
For
anybody
who
has
made
a
pull
request
touched
an
issue
blah
blah
commented
things
for
the
last.
E
I
want
to
say
two
years,
or
maybe
it's
only
a
year,
but
they
get
they
get
the
list
from
there
and
then
they
publish
the
list
and
say,
if
you're
not
on
this
list,
and
you
think
you
should
be.
C
Yeah
we're
doing
that
part.
So
that's
to
get
the
I
I
think
I
didn't
it
doesn't
sound
like
there's
any
brilliant
solution.
This
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
stick
with
sort
of
honor
system
like
please
fill
out
the
questionnaire,
and
I
am
like
requiring
google
auth
for
that.
So
we
don't
get
the
email
address,
but
at
least
you
can
only
submit
once
so
we
can
kind
of
at
least
see
like
what
percentage
the
people
got
it
and
we
can
heckle
people
over
email
and
mass
to
say.
C
C
The
other
item
I
had
is
just
from
a
couple
weeks
ago,
but
since
no
one
else
has
put
stuff
on
the
agenda
I'll
just
keep
on
going
this.
A
couple
weeks
ago
I
mentioned
that
some
people
I
know
who
are
at
you
know
a
well-regarded
software.
Well,
technology
company
were
worried
about
adopting
a
hotel
because
they
perceived
it
as
being
like
having
a
lot
of
vendor
sort
of
political
infighting.
C
I
think
we
all
nodded
and
agreed
that
that's
not
the
case
at
the
governance
level
and
it's
the
best,
my
knowledge,
not
the
case
for
the
tc
or
any
of
the
cigs,
but
I
think
the
perception
is
probably
coming
from
marketing
departments.
I'm
not
throwing
stones
here
I
mean
you
know:
splunk's
done
a
bunch
of
pr
about
it
lights
up.
Someone
knows
a
pr
about
it.
C
I
mean
I'm
not
not
telling
anyone
to
stop
doing
that,
but
I
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
it
might
be
worthwhile
for
the
parties
involved
with
open
telemetry
to
actually
communicate
our
shared
goals
and
commit
to
them
and
because
I
think
we
actually
are
fairly
aligned
about
almost
like
99
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
the
project
and
to
like
actually
have
that
written
down
with
our
names
and
affiliations
signed
to.
It
might
be
a
useful
demonstration
of
that
alignment
within.
H
C
H
C
Does
that
make
sense
to
people,
I
I
don't
know
or
is
there
another?
I
mean
the
problem
I'm
trying
to
solve
is
how
do
we
fix
what
seems
to
be
an
actual
perceptual
problem
about
the
the
projects
sort
of
just
I
don't
know
internal
goodwill
or
something
like
that.
E
Yeah,
so
I
have
a
couple
of
suggestions
and
some
of
them
are
kind
of
off
the
wall.
One
is,
I
love
the
idea
of
getting
like
vision,
values,
mission,
kind
of
stuff
that
just
all
and
then
signing
the
the
community
to
it
in
all
sorts
of
ways,
so
that
we
have
sort
of
that
alignment,
and
this
is
what
we're
going
to.
E
So
that's
two
and
then
the
off-the-wall
suggestion
that
I
was
thinking
of
is:
could
we
potentially
get
all
of
our
companies
to
agree
to
some
sort
of
co-branded,
open,
telemetry
marketing?
That
then
we
put
all
of
our
brands
on.
H
E
Yeah
like
this
is
this
is
all
about
us
making
sure
it's
easy
for
you,
the
end
customer
and
we're
having
our
own
fights
here,
because
that
means
we
can
make
this
super
easy
for
you
all.
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
say
we're
having
all
of
our
fights,
but
you
know
we
can
refer
to
it
as
the.
Why
actually
constance
you
said,
you
have
moments
in
kubecon
as
well.
E
I
mean
this
isn't
only
kubecon,
but
that
would
be
another
spot
is
to
sort
of
re-um
reiterate
the
this
is
about
making
an
even
playing
field
for
vendors,
so
that
customers
have
or
consumers
have
a
super
easy
time.
G
Sorry
yeah,
so
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
like
I
was
already
planning
for
the
ga
process
once
we
got
closer
to
do
at
a
minimum,
a
joint
blog
post
between
all
the
companies
involved
and
updates
to
the
open,
telemetry
marketing
page.
I
keep
continuing,
is
another
good
opportunity
to
extend
that
further.
G
G
G
That's
sort
of
what
I
have
had
in
mind:
it's
just
that
until
we
get
things
really
close
to
an
rc,
I'm
yeah,
I
haven't
pulled
the
trigger
on
it.
Yet.
C
Yeah
I
mean
that
sounds
great.
I
think
it's
totally
in
yes
and
category
firmly
supportive
of
the
thing
you're
talking
about
and
that
you
all
have
been
talking
about
with
the
blog
posts
and
so
on.
I
really
like
the
idea
of
a
sign
on
the
wall.
That's
not
like
a
something
that
has
a
like
a
time
stamp
on
it.
If
that
makes
sense
that
certainly
got.
C
I
mean
it
can
be
educational,
but,
but
I
think,
having
something
that's
meant
to
be.
It's
sort
of
by
definition
durable,
would
be
really
useful
to
have
people
sign
off
on
and
it
might
actually
genuinely.
You
know
if,
in
some
period
of
years
things
aren't
so
harmonious
like
it
might
be
nice
to
be
able
to
point
to
it
and
say:
hey
like
listen,
you
know,
and
we
have.
We
have
the
sort
of
the
community
guidelines,
but
those
are
more
about
like
really
bad
behavior,
not
about.
E
You
know,
and
these
end
up
being
things
you
can
use
to
make
decisions
later
so
you're
having
a
big
technical
discussion-
and
you
know
your
two
points
are
a
little
bit.
They
could
be
technical,
they
could
be
whatever
or
you
know,
cultural,
but
you
have
two
points
and
you
need
to
say
how
are
we
ever
going
to
pick
the
answer
here?
It's
like
well,
let's
go
look
at
these
lists,
this
list
of
values
do
any
of
them
help.
C
Well,
one
idea
would
be
to
do
it
after
the
election.
It
might
be
a
nice
thing.
For
the
I
mean
this
does
see,
especially
if
we're
talking
about
that
sort
of
stuff
which
I
like
it
being
about.
So
it
feels
a
little
bit
more
substantial.
It
might
make
sense
to
wait
until
the
election
is
done.
I
mean
I'm
not
adamant
about
that,
and
I
certainly
think
it
should
involve.
It
should
be
a
transparent
thing.
C
That's
on
github
and
people
can
weigh
in
regardless,
but
it
feels
like
a
gc
activity
like
should
be
a
collective
activity,
and
since
we
haven't.
H
H
C
Sorry
but
but
that's
a
thought,
I'm
also
happy
for
everyone
to
take
it
on.
That's
great,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
finish
it
this
month,
because
I
guess
the
reason
why
I
was
thinking
we
might
want
to
wait.
G
So
I'm
happy
to
take
point.
It
sounds
like
the
consensus,
though
we'll
do
this
after
the
election.
So
assuming
I
get
reelected,
then
I'm
happy
to
take
point.
E
If
you're
not
re-elected,
I
still
think
that
it's
you
know
it,
it
doesn't
have
to
come.
I
mean
it
has
to
be
blessed
by
the
steering
committee.
E
G
C
Yeah
I
see
that
gc
is
being
sort
of
like
in
a
ratification
role
here
not
now
like
we
do
all
the
work.
Yeah,
okay.
Well,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
I
mean,
I
think,
if
we'd
had
that,
I
would
just
send
it
to
them
and
be
like
you
know,
you're
wrong
or
whatever.
So
I
think
that
would
be
great.
D
E
C
C
H
G
Yes,
yeah.
E
C
G
C
H
A
E
C
E
E
No,
this
is
the
california
place.
It's.
G
E
E
A
I
have
to
say
ow,
I
would
suggest
you
start
doing
the
like
high-pitched,
squeals
and
walking
away
the
instant,
even
if
it's
the
softest
nibble,
because
then
they
yeah.