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A
A
C
No
people
are
posting
in
the
slack.
D
D
E
So
for
those
of
us
who
haven't
been
paying
close
enough
attention
to
the
twitter
or
sorry
the
getter
to
open
no
to
slack
move,
are
we
in
our
own
slack
instance,
or
are
we
part
of
the
cncf.
E
G
We've
started
having
some
questions
about
what
we're
doing,
with
the
with
the
cncf
cubecon
event
and
whether
we're
doing
a
community.
So
we
should
start
those
discussions
now.
We
should
also
talk
about
the
continue
to
talk
about
the
open,
tracing
deprecation
and
the
comment.
Our
rfc
period.
C
So
should
we
start
with
the
kubecon
community,
because
I
can
give
you
guys
an
update
on
what
the
requirements
will
be
for
vaccination
and
officially
announced
it
yet,
but
it's
gonna
be
everyone
has
to
be
vaccinated.
There
are
no
exceptions,
we're
allowing
no
exceptions
just
because
one
it's
very
hard
to
validate.
If
someone
is
accepting
like
applying
for
an
exception
because
of
they
don't
believe
in,
did
they
don't
believe
in
the
vaccine?
Oh
we're
gonna.
Can
we
not
publish
this
one,
because
I
don't
know
if
I'm
allowed
to
share
this
information.
G
This
is
being
recorded,
so
you
should
not
refrain
from
sharing
in
yeah.
I
would
just
say
the
policy
is
the
policy.
G
Yeah,
I
think
the
issue
that
I
wanted
to
discuss
was
not
you
know
the
logistics.
What
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
the
you
know.
Last
year
we
had
some
dissatisfaction
with
the
return
on
investment
for
attendees
of
having
to
also
buy
the
kubecon
ticket
et
cetera,
and
that
this
year
we
need
to
look
at
whether
we
are
officially
doing
a
co-located
event
or
whether
we
are
doing
a
a
hybrid
event
that
happens
to
be
at
the
same.
F
H
Yeah,
I
think,
morgan
again,
I
think
the
light
step
being
given
austin,
I
think,
is
on
paternity
leave.
So
I
think
amelia
was
following
up
on
that
and
they
had
reached
out
to
to
me.
You
know
to
see
if
we
could
use
an
aws.
I.
H
Yeah,
so
I
I
I'm
still
in
the
process
of
finding
that,
if
we
can
find
you
know
in
and
conference
space
or
just
you
know
a
big
large
area
to
in
one
of
our
building,
then
definitely
we
can
set
it
up
or.
H
What's
going
on
there,
but
definitely
it.
E
G
Yeah
cool
so
yeah,
as
long
as
we
are
committed
to
this
idea
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
hotel
community
day
without
coupon
ticket
required
and
the
logistics
are
in
flight
and
that
we
are
okay
with
that
proceeding
as
a
governance
committee
that
that
is
our
plan
of
records.
That's
mainly
what
I
wanted
to
clarify
and
bring
everyone
into
the
loop
on.
F
Got
it
yeah?
I
think
that
for
me
that's
definitely
my
preference
like
I'd
love
for
it
to
be
associated
technically
with
cncf,
but
the
problem.
The
challenge
has
been
requiring
people
to
have
the
tickets
that
are
really
expensive
and
not
everybody
has
one.
So
if
that
wasn't
a
factor
then
I
would
totally
say
it
should
be
a
co-official
co-located
event,
but
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
there's
any
way
around
it.
E
Yep,
I
think
that
is
super
good
feedback,
though
for
the
lf,
so
I
want
to
offer
that
background.
I
know
they've
heard
it
please.
F
C
G
H
G
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
I
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
you,
but
I've
just
finished
my
kubecon
ollie
track
reviews
and
there
are
some
things
there
that
are
going
to
be
great
for
the
general
kubecon
community.
There
are
some
things
that
I
would
like
to
divert
to
the
hotel
community
because
they're
a
little
bit
more
kind
of
specific
to
our
community,
and
I
don't
think
that
people
who
are
generally
attending
coupon
will
be
interested
in
them.
G
D
G
C
Yeah,
it
is
a
compliant
and
gdpr
compliant,
and
they
are
also
going
to
take
into
account
that,
like
canadian
and
they're
going
to
like
using
this,
but
like
canada
and
eu,
like
what
is
that,
like
the
quote-unquote
vaccine
passport
for
them,
because
it
will
be
a
lot
of
canadians
and
europeans
who
are
fully
vaccinated
too
and
so
they're.
Looking
for
that,
sorry,
to
give
you
guys.
E
G
Yeah
yeah,
no,
I
I
am
planning
to
end
virtually,
even
though
I
am
vaccinated
because,
like
I
don't
want
to
take
the
risk.
But
yes.
F
G
E
We'll
have
we
would
have
to
do
it
as
a
you
know,
a
personal
attestation
kind
of
thing.
If
we
wanted
to
say
we
want
you
to
be
vaccinated
to
attend,
but
that's
that's
about
all
we
could
do
or
we
do
it
as
a
an
official
so
we'll
see.
Is
there
any
way
we
could
leverage
the
kubecon
process?
If
you
know
not,
if
we're
saying
we
don't
want
to
be
part
of
the
process
and
part
of
the
tickets,
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
too
icky.
Okay,
I
see
yeah
okay.
C
C
H
E
Ask
yeah
it's
totally
good
for
us
to
ask
it's
totally
good
for
us
to
remind
them
it's
great,
that
we
can
be
transparent
and
have
constant,
say:
hey.
We
had
this
conversation
this
morning
in
the
hotel
governance
call
like
what
are
we
going
to
do
about
this
because
last
year
we
found
this
to
be
a
barrier
to
entry.
We
also
see
it
as
a
value
that
you
add,
and
yet
so,
where
do
you
stand
on
these
positions?
You
know
and
you
just
kind
of
poke
again
yep.
D
D
I'm
also
entirely
unsure
how
in
the
u.s,
people
will
prove
that
they're
vaccinated,
because
I
don't
know
about
any
of
you,
but
my
card
looks
easily.
I
was
kind
of
wondering
the
same
thing
as
well.
I'm
curious.
I
could
have
made
this
on
my
printer
at
home
pretty
easily
and
it
probably
would
have
looked
good.
A
B
H
G
H
All
right,
so
I
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
meet
with
ted,
hopefully
later
this
afternoon,
I'm
still
trying
to
get
a
time
with
him,
but
we
do
have
a
deprecation
discussion
that
we've
had,
but
we
do
need
to
finalize
the
dock.
We'll
share
the
google
doc
draft
that
you
know
with
you
guys
to
look
at,
but
also
share
it
with
alina
she's
on
vacation.
H
I
think
next
week
so
just
wanted
to
at
least
give
her
a
draft
before
that,
and
I
think
that
the
open
tracing
deprecation
specifically
liz.
I
think
we
were
just
going
to
use
what
is
available
on
the
website
right
now
and
ask
the
linux
foundation
to
have
a
more
clear
guideline.
I
haven't
followed
up
yet
with
priyanka
or
you
know
amy,
but
I
I
will
do
so
I'll
just
start
the
thread
with
alina
in
it
and
anybody
else
who's
interested.
H
H
E
F
F
Yes,
that
too
yeah,
so
everything
worked
out
well
for
everyone,
so
it
was
good
yeah.
All
right
next
topic,
I
didn't
add
up
a
flag
about
what
private
means
with
respect
to
youtube
recordings.
Yes,.
G
Someone
came
to
me
and
said:
hey.
We
think
you
have
a
security
incident.
You
know
you
you're
publishing
private
governance
committee
meetings
on
youtube
and
I
was
like
it's
private
in
terms
of
external
attendees
are
not
allowed
but
dangerous
transparency.
So
we
should
probably
me
you
know,
change.
H
Makes
sense-
and
I
had
one
more
question
which
I
didn't
add
to
the
doc,
but
this
was
based
on
actually
mark
carter's
request,
and
this
is
primarily
for
our
calendar
events.
So
several
calendar
events
today,
you
know
morgan,
you
added
the
passwords,
for
you
know
the
meetings
and
I
think
because
mark
has
an
accessibility,
you
know
dependency.
H
So
therefore
he
was
saying
that
there
are
some
events
that
are
inconsistent
in
the
having
the
old
link
still
maybe.
F
F
F
E
F
H
E
E
F
G
A
G
Yeah,
speaking
of
which
morgan,
what
do
you
like
to
do?
A
in
person
walk
outside
sometime.
F
Yes,
that
would
be
great,
probably
after
a
move.
Yes,
cool.
H
F
H
H
I
have
one
more
question,
I'm
sorry,
I
did
not
add
these
to
the
I
I'll
do
so,
but
the
question
I
had
is
that
at
some
point
in
time,
in
the
last
few
months
elastic
had
you
know
elastic
the
company
had
asked
if
they
or
they
had
mentioned,
that
they
would
like
to
contribute
the
elastic
common
schema.
That.
H
H
No,
it
was
last
year.
Okay,
you
know
they
wanted
to
contribute
that
schema
definition
to
the
hotel
logic.
F
A
month
or
two
later
and
they
were
like
it
was,
it
was
positive
but
non-committal.
If
that
makes
sense,
they're
like
yeah,
we
could
you
know
if
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Maybe
there
weren't
really
many
obvious
next
steps.
It
didn't.
I
perhaps
I'm
wrong,
but
it
didn't
seem
like
they
were
sort
of
like
itching
to
go
and
make
this
happen
right
now.
H
F
H
Obviously
elastic
is
a
big
part
of
the
universe
in
terms
of
logging
right.
So
the
question
is
again:
you
know:
what's
the
message
there,
if
the
common,
if
their
schema,
actually
got
integrated
into
our
you
know
into
our
universe,
being
an
open
source
schema,
then
that
would
make
sense
right,
but
if
it
isn't,
then
we'll
have
to
look
at
how
you
know
it'll
be
the
issue
of
interoperability
right
at
that
point,
and
and
how
do
we
make
sure,
that's
supported,
but
we
should
have
a
clear
guidance
for
customers,
because
a
lot
of.
F
F
H
Exactly
but
we
should
be
clear
about
you
know
what
our
a
project
decision
is
there
because
correct.
F
Say:
let's
bring
it
up
at
next
week's
log
sig
meeting,
but
I
won't
be
there
okay,
but
if
you
want
to
bring
it
up,
that's
the.
F
If
you
want
once
you
come
into
a
decision
now
I'll
be
you
know,
I'm
attending
the
log
sig
meetings
again,
I'm
just
not
we'll
be
at
next
week's
vacation.
But
if
you
want
me
at
some
point
just
to
reach
out
like
if
you
have
a
conversation
next
week,
the
log
season,
everyone
says
yes.