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A
I
think
people
haven't
joined
yet.
A
C
God
was
it
easy?
Oh,
your
test
is
easy.
It's
this
like
pretty
legitimate,
close
contact
exposure.
I
found
out
about
this
morning,
which
I'm
not
super
happy
about.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
trust
the
numbers
right
now
and
I
look
online.
It
seems
like
numbers,
are
still
really
low,
but
in
the
last
36
hours
I.
C
D
D
D
This
is
a
I
haven't,
even
used
it,
yet
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
in
the
video
there's
a
little
tag
hanging
off
of
the
top
boot.
I
I
bought
it
during
the
winter
and
it
took
so
long
to
get
here
that
I
didn't
get
to
use
it.
One
time.
D
Although
we're
about
to
have
third
winter
here
in
michigan,
is
it
still
snowing?
D
F
D
I
thought
you
were
in
like
seattle
or
vancouver,
or
something
like
that
me.
G
A
A
C
A
But
daniel
you-
and
I
can
maybe
cover
some
of
that,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
update
that
you
know
for
the
ossna
prep
we've
been
working
with
lindsay
and
she
has
also
added
another
person
from
the
lyrics
from
the
cncf
to
work
with
us.
She's
been
sharing,
you
know
again,
we
have
the
cfp
out
as
well
as
the
community
announcement.
Daniel
you've
looked
at
it
too.
A
I
think,
and
and
again
we
are
doing
a
weekly
cadence,
so
just
wanted
to
report
that
you
know
that
something
that
we'd
like
to
share
with
the
gce
on
email
and
then
you
know,
please
feel
free
to
share
it
on
your
networks.
D
Yeah,
I
think
tomorrow
we're
going
to
go
over
the
schedule
and
finalize
it
not
necessarily
which
talks
we
have,
but
how
many
and
where,
when
will
they
be,
and
that
kind
of
thing
how
long
will
the
keynote
be
and
that
type
of
thing
and
yeah?
I
think
at
this
point
we
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
update
from
last
week,
we're
just
waiting
on
like
lightning
talk
and
workshop
submissions
and
such
yes
and
trying
to
promote
it
as
much
as
possible.
A
Do
you
know
daniel
if
I
mean
we'll
find
out
from
lindsay
tomorrow,
but
what
the
status
of
the
workshops
submission
was?
Are
we
actually
actively
broadcasting
on
our
channels
to,
for
you
know,
folks
who
are
doing
workshops
to
participate,
or
you
know.
D
A
D
D
I
have
had
a
couple
of
people
reach
out
to
me.
Looking
for,
like
the
the
website
and
the
registration
link,
I
guess
people
are
having
a
hard
time
googling
it.
But
I
guess
that
means
that
some
people
are
at
least
trying.
H
I
I
do
think
it
we
need
to
promote
the
rfp
process
more.
A
H
Don't
think
we've
been
promoting
it
much
yet
and
it's
you
can't
find
it
on
the
website,
so
we
should
fix
that
second
part,
but
but
yeah.
I
think
we're
gonna
need
to
do
a
lot
of
promotion
to
get
submissions.
D
To
see
if
we
can
get
the
the
form
on
the
website
as
far
as
broadcasting
it
out
to
people
I
mean
I
know
some
people
probably
do
have
some
fairly
large
followings
on
twitter,
but
I
think
I
I
only
have
like
10
people
following
me
and
they're.
My
college
buddies
so.
D
D
Yeah,
so
if
you
look
at
the
agenda
from
last
week,
those
are
the
links
that
were
the
the
workshop
submission,
which
is
the
google
form
link
and
the
website
itself
are
probably
the
two
important
ones.
D
Again,
I
know
I
should
know
this.
Sorry,
don't
know
that
there
is
an
official
deadline.
Once
we
have
the
schedule
filled
up,
then
it's
full.
C
I
C
A
C
C
C
The
main
thing
I'd
like
to
have
is:
if
someone
here
knows
what
end
user,
they
would
bring
that's
great.
Otherwise
I
would
love
it
if
a
volunteer
from
this
group
could
agree
to
find
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
customer
necessarily
that's
fine,
but
just
like
an
end
user
of
hotel
to
come
and
talk
about
what's
working
and
not
working
in
a
recorded
session
in
the
next,
you
know
month
or
something
like
that,
and
then
we
can
just
decide
on
the
date
and
then
like
reuse,
one
of
these
slots
or
something
like
that
and.
A
I
had
I
had
volunteered
for
that,
and
I
do
have
the
I
mean
again
and
liz
and
bogdan
also
have
been
involved
in
some
of
the
conversations
with
nyt.
So
again,
you
know
they've
been
very
active
about
evaluating
hotel
as
well.
As
you
know,
looking
at
how
you
know
some
of
the
issues
that
they're
faced
in
terms
of
finding
you
know
the
right
solution
for
collections.
So
again,
I'd
definitely
like
to.
A
H
And
to
clarify
I'm
happy
to
help
if
you
all
find
people-
and
I
will
look
for
people,
light
step
customers,
but
I'm
happy
to
help
organize
the
schedule
of
when
people
are
showing
up
because
it
seems
like
we.
We
need
some
some
centralization
there
if
we're
going
to
get
more
than
one
person
to
come.
Talk
to
us.
So
I'm
happy
to
help
with
that
process.
Yeah.
C
C
C
A
I'll
I'll
definitely
take
me,
I
mean
again,
as
I
said,
invite
is
very
interesting.
C
Okay
got
it
and
does
that.
C
C
C
C
B
B
Because
the
thing
that
liz
just
shared
it's
a
cncf
page,
it
has
no
call
for
paper
there
or
anything.
It's
just
like
registered
to
the
event.
I
Right
exactly,
which
is
why
I
linked
the
which,
which
is
why
I
linked
the
google
form,
but
yes,
you're
right
the
google.
The
event
says:
you
know
early
registration,
then
from
the
state.
It
doesn't
have
the
cfp,
so
we
should
fix
that
yep.
A
I
think
the
next
question
I
had
just
put
in
ted
you
had
mentioned
that
pm
or
an
em
was
added
from
lightstep
to
help
with
some
of
the
project.
Participation
again,
do
you
have
updates
from
them
or
you
know.
How
is
that
working
out
just
curious.
H
Yes,
so
we
do,
we
do
have
a
candidate
reggie
who's.
An
engineering
manager
at
lightstep
is
willing
to
become
the
project
manager
for
open
telemetry,
spec
backlog.
H
I've
been
working
with
him
and
riley
this
week
we're
coming
up
with
two
proposals
that
we'll
be
finalizing
on
friday
and
sharing
with
the
wider
gctc
group
next
week.
H
Will
be
for,
like
a
project
level
backlog
like
how
to
identify
the
major
initiatives
that
we
are
trying
to
work
on
and
organize
that
in
a
more
visible
fashion,
in
order
to
make
sure
those
projects
have
timelines
the
tcs
aware
of
them
and
interacting
with
them,
and
we
kind
of
have
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row.
So
we're
not
being
surprised
or
having
people
fail
to
realize,
there's
a
project
they
could
take
a
part
in.
So
we
have
two
proposals
coming
and
we'll
be
presenting
them
to
the
gcntc
next
week.
J
All
right,
I
think
mine,
is
the
next
topic.
This
is
one
I
mentioned
last
week,
though
this
week
we
have
liz
and
I
think,
you're
more
of
an
expert
on
this
than
the
rest
of
us.
Maybe
question
about
licenses
as
one
of
our
engineers
who
contributes
to.net.
B
J
Asked
me-
and
I
didn't
have
a
good
answer,
so
I
promised
I'd.
Take
it
up
at
the
gc,
okay,
a
question
was
it
you
or
sarah
who
dealt
with
some
of
the
license
stuff
earlier?
I
forgot.
I
A
J
Know
nothing
about
this,
but
but
they
basically
they'd,
ask
like
hey
when
we
have
dependencies
within
our
language.
Six.
So
for
this.
In
this
example,
the
net
sig
has
various
dependencies
on
libraries
that
it
uses.
Do
we
reference
those
in
just
a
big
csv
file
that
just
says
here
the
dependencies
have
we
haven't
here's
their
license?
That's
what
they've
been
doing
now.
Is
that
good
enough.
I
Illegally
distributing
binaries
that
we
shouldn't
be
distributing
the
other
thing
that
is
important
to
do.
There
is
to
make
sure
that
unless
it
is
really
really
really
essential,
we
should
not
be
in
rendering
libraries
right
in
general
when
someone
downloads
a
hotel
repository,
they
should
expect
that
all
of
the
code
that
is
directly
in
that
in
that
hotel
repository
is
apache
to,
unless
otherwise
specified
very,
very
carefully.
J
I
Just
trying
to
just
trying
to
understand
right,
like
is
this
purely
a
manifest
licensing
compliance
issue
is
this:
a
you
know.
Mit
license
may
require
you
to
display
a
notification
saying
that
you
know
this.
Software
contains
x
and
y
and
z
that.
B
J
B
B
J
A
Right,
the
good
practice
is
that,
typically,
you
have
the
license
file,
you
know
which
is
at
a
project
level
right
and,
and
then
every
repo
is
ensuring
that
you
know
the
dependencies
as
well
as
whatever
is
being
distributed
as
part
of
the
project
is,
is
referring
to
that
at
least
the
repo
level
and
and
just
saying
hey,
you
know,
everything
is
apache
or
a
battery
compliant.
J
A
A
J
A
J
A
A
C
Oh
yeah,
I
was
just
kind
of
like
going
through
old
issues
that
have
I
created
and
haven't
been
updated
in
a
long
time,
and
one
of
them
is
around
creating
some
sort
of
mechanism
to
track
per
sig
health.
C
This
was
from
like
last
november,
and
there
was
a
discussion
on
github
that
you
know
like
many
discussions
on
github
did
not
converge
on
a
single.
You
know
consensus,
I
was
thinking
of
you
know
relitigating
some
of
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
and
see
like
at
the
time.
There
was
a
lot
of
concern
over.
C
You
know
different
things
having
different
sorts
of
problems
like
there's
a
you
know,
a
lot
of
sort
of
turmoil
in
the
collector's
seg,
but
then
in
the
javascript
say
we
just
didn't,
have
enough
maintainers
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
just
curious,
like
kind
of
gut
check
like
how
are
we
feeling
about
sick
health
today,.
C
A
I
mean
I
would
say
that
the
the
situation
you
know
is
is
is
still
similar,
although
the
collector
has,
you
know,
tried
to
add
more
maintainers
to
the
you
know
for
maintainability,
but
the
situation
with
the
other
sigs,
where
you
know
there
is
a
death
of
more
maintainers
coming
in,
is
still
something
we
should
be
concerned
about.
So
I
would
propose
that
you
know
we
should
at
least
look
at
the
number
of
active
maintainers.
A
You
know
on
a
regular
basis,
whether
that's
every
quarter
or
you
know
just
just
so
that
all
of
us
are
aware
of
of
what
the
status
is,
because
I
do
think
that
that's
a
bell
weather
for
the
project
and-
and
it
is
important
to
continue
to
you-
know,
cultivate
more
contributors,
and
you
know,
and
also
look
at
the
graduation
process
of
contributors
becoming
approvers
and
maintainers
over
time.
You
know
as
something
that's
that's
healthy.
A
C
J
D
I
mean
we
had
bad
problems
in
the
javascript
seg
last
time.
So
that's
why
I
was
very
motivated
about
this
last
time.
I
I
guess
I
feel
like
we're
at
least
in
a
much
better
place,
but
I
don't
have
that
much
visibility
into
non-javascript
cigs.
Of
course
we
have
four
maintainers
who
are
all
active
and
we
have
an
additional.
D
I
think
eight
approvers,
who
are
various
levels
of
active,
but
none
of
them
are
completely
inactive
and
I
think
that's
about
as
good
as
I
could
have
hoped
for.
The
only
the
biggest
issue
is
that
I
believe
that
I
am
the
only
person
period
who
is
full-time
on
javascript,
even
the
other
maintainers
are
doing
it
as
part
of
their
normal
job
activities
or
even
one
of
the
maintainers.
D
Does
it
entirely
in
his
own
free
time
and
he's
still
one
of
the
most
active
contributors,
but
mostly
from
like
a
review
and
triage
standpoint,
but
that's
fine,
because
we
need
that
too.
J
D
H
D
Yeah
and
that's
how
most
of
our
contributors
work,
we
do
have
a
handful
that
are
split
that
are
full-time
open
telemetry,
but
are
split
between
different
cigs
like
nev,
for
microsoft
is
definitely
like
that
he
doesn't
contribute
a
ton
to
javascript,
but
I
know
he
does
contribute
all
of
his
time
to
open
telemetry
in
general,
and
we
have
a
few
people
like
that,
but
I
would
say
we're
not
in
a
dire
situation
right
now.
If
we
lost
one
or
two
people,
it
would
become
dire
very
quickly
but
yeah.
D
C
Well,
I
mean
we're
gonna
run
out
of
time.
I
mean,
I
guess
I'm
just
thinking
like.
Yes,
we
should
continue
measuring
it
in
some
capacity.
So
I
think
that
issue
stands.
I'm
going
to
still
push
for
simplicity
on
that.
I
don't
want
to
overdo
it.
I
just
want
like
some
sort
of
quick
check
in
good
faith.
Yeah.
J
D
A
Yeah-
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that
that
you
know
again
apac
participation-
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
from
apac
who
participate
and-
and
we
still,
you
know,
are
very
much.
You
know
we
do
some
apac
say
the.
A
A
So,
for
example,
if
you
want
a
guy
like
anurag
to
participate
more
and
you
know
and
get
more
involved,
then
he
has
often
asked
you
know
how
he
how
he
would
right.
So
that's
something
worth
considering.
C
I
gotta
go
I'll
update
that
issue,
but
I
love
the
maintainer's
thing
idea.
I
think
that's
perfect.
It
can
just
be
a
kind
of
interactive
thing.
Yeah.