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From YouTube: 2022-06-29 meeting
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OpenTelemetry PHP SIG Meeting
A
Oh,
that's
true.
That's
true.
I
am
a
famous
broadway
star
for
everyone
else.
In
the
group
I
had
a
birthday
party
for
my
uncle's
partner
on
saturday
and
I
dressed
up
as
a
1920s
chicago
character,
the
musical
so
timo's
poking
fun
at
the
fact
of
me
being
a
broadway
star.
I
have
no
musical
talent
whatsoever.
A
D
A
A
B
A
Started
so
start
with
open
pull
requests.
I
got
a
couple
open
looks
like
there
is
somebody
made
the
pr
that
you
asked
for
timo
about
moving
the
development
information
from
the
main
readme
into
a
dedicated
development.
Readme
I'll
probably
merge
that
after
this
meeting,
because
it's
looks
done
and
it's
pretty
non-consequential
so.
A
D
Yes,
give
me
one
second,
please,
though
I
will
talk
during
making
your
weight.
I
actually
have
to
see
what
I
did
then
no,
I
know
what
they
did
there
so
yeah.
I
reversed
it
back
to
being
a
draft,
because
there
was
some
mistake
or
something
I
did
not
think
about
which
I
want
to
fix.
It's
just
a
little
one,
there's
an
basically
an
error.
How
some
requests
are
handled.
That's
basically
should
be
the
other
way
around,
and
this
I
don't
know.
D
D
For
the
server
for
the
factories
and
then
yeah
it
basically
and
does
all
this
stuff
automatically.
So
when
there's
an
incoming
request
among
the
server
in
the
library,
then
you've
already
populated
things
like
that
and
with
a
server
request.
As
I
said,
there's
a
little
work
and
yeah,
then
there's
some
resolvers
and
dependency
there's
some
stuff
which
will
be
used
for
unifying
all
the
http
stuff
and
clients
for
our
exporters,
which
is
on
my
list
since
for
nearly
a
half
a
year,
and
I
finally
want
to
get
it
done.
D
And
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
an
abstraction
that,
because
for
resolving
we
now
we
use
this
peach
plug
discovery
thing
and
this
an
abstraction
for
it.
So
it's
an
adapter
to
use
that
and
for
testing
purposes,
and
things
like
that,
and
then
that
we
have
that
there's
some
a
unified
interface
for
those
http
clients
or,
however,
we
call
it
them
to
access
students.
That's
basically
a
base
word
for
other
stuff
from
the
future
and
all
is
caused
by
I'm
still
working
on
this
api
and
sdk
stuff.
A
A
B
D
D
A
Apologies
that
we
missed
that
one
all
right,
otl
grpc
exporter
for
metrics,
that
one
erdem
opened,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
from
him
and
it
looks
like
he's
still
working
on
solving
an
issue,
an
api
on
sdk
issue.
First,
so
we'll
wait
for
that
to
be-
and
that's
also
in
draft,
so
we'll
wait
for
that
one
to
get
a
little
better.
Brett
has
a
pr
for
adding
the
event
dispatcher
kasha.
It
looks
like
you
reviewed
this
already.
B
D
D
There
is
a
fellow
cncf
project
called
cloud
events
which
defines
interfaces
for
events
which
could
not
only
for
php.
It's
like
like
more
or
less
language.
Agnostic
like
open
telemetry
is,
and
we
want
to
try
and
make
use
these
interfaces
for
the
event
objects
themselves,
so
they
will
be
portable
and
the
sdk
for
cloud
events
also
has
a
martial
on
marshall,
for
http
requests
and
stuff,
like
that,
that's
not
something
we
will
use,
but
end
users
could
use
it
if
they
want
to
or
not
so
that's
a
change.
D
B
E
A
B
D
A
D
D
Yeah,
I
don't
well
I,
for
I
have
a
general
from
the
stocks,
so
probably
most
people
know
now
or
whatever,
and
I
don't
think
well.
This
uses
any
best
practices
still
and
in
this
regard
it
was
hard
to
change
these
documents
to
actually
you
wouldn't
they
would
need
a
complete
rewrite
to
use.
You
know
something
symphony
best
practices
or
entry
points
in
laravel,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
worth
it
but
yeah
and
I'm
okay
with
this
docsis.
D
Therefore
you
know
for
newcomers
and
having
introduction,
but
for
me
personally,
if
I
look,
this
is
way
too
much
noise.
I
don't
need
to
I've
explained
how
to
set
up
symphony
or
any
of
the
stuff
and
the
basic
information
is
very
little
and
then
it
just
patches
the
phone
controller
and
uses
global
stuff
so
yeah.
So
that's
really
my
concern.
My
concern
is
that
I've
seen
people
actually
using
this
approach
and
this
you
know
yeah.
D
B
D
Okay,
fine
yeah
and
otherwise
the
thingy
I've
implemented
there
with
those
decorators
for
requests
could
also
help
with
that.
But
I
would
rather
get
it
stable
before
we
use
it
anywhere,
then
it
could
basically
replace
the
symphony
or
whatever
server
request
factory
and
what
stuff
out
of
the
box.
But
okay,
I
will
have.
E
A
D
Yeah,
I
can
have
a
look
again
today
because
I
know
you
were
waiting
on
me
right.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
really
like
to
make
people
wait,
but
yeah
we
can
solve
this
out.
I
think
I've
looked
into
this
long
ago,
and
so
I'm
it's
not
a.
You
know
I'm
up
in
my
head,
but
can
I
think
I
can
recall
it
there's
something
veggies
human
drop
and
I
think
one
good
example
is
in
javascript
how
they
handled
it.
Did
you
have
a
look
into
it?
D
D
Yeah
well,
no,
there
was
some
other.
I
I
cannot
recall
what
it
actually
was,
but
I
saw
and
I've
had
a
look
into
the
javascript
implementation,
and
so
I
obviously
made
sense,
although
it
was
kind
of
like
that,
but
I
wasn't
I'm
not
quite
sure
if
it
was
about
that.
So
what
happened
was
too
long
ago.
I
will
have
another.
C
Yeah,
so
I
have
raised
another
pr,
including
the
example,
so
I've
added
the
example
as
a
comment.
Only
so
just
let
me
know
if
it
is
sufficient.
If
you
want
to
make
any
change,
I
will
do
that,
and
apart
from
that,
I
don't
know
somehow.
The
code
coverage
is
reduced
by
zero
point.
One:
eight
percent,
I'm
trying
to.
D
A
Yeah,
I
would
say
if
it,
if
my
general
rule
of
thumb
is,
if
it's
less
than
0.5,
it
really
doesn't
matter,
because
I
think
that
we
don't
have
like
a
specific
code
coverage
that
we
have
to
meet.
That's
just
something
that
we
use
for
gauging
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
proper
test
coverage
for
new
prs.
D
D
C
D
D
That's
not
really
super
important,
because
it's
a
cross-cutting
concern
and,
however
there
would
be
generally
a
method
would
would
be
more
reliable,
but
we
couldn't
cannot
create
it
in
in
the
sdk
because
it
would
need
zero
and
q
if
anybody's
not
familiar
with
the
zero
and
q.
It's
not
a
like.
The
name
suggests
it's
not
a
message
queue,
it's
a
library,
c
or
c,
plus,
plus
with
a
lot
of
bindings
in
a
lot
of
languages
and
it
acts.
D
Basically,
let's
say
you
create
a
socket
connection
or
something
between
two
services
and
you
can
push
messages
through
and
what
zero
q
does.
It
offers
buffers
the
messages.
So,
if
and
there's
no
connection
on
the
other
side,
it
will
not
break
or
will
not
drop
any
messages.
It
will
just
buffer
that
until
it
has
a
connection,
so
that's
basically
kind
of
what
it
does,
but
it
would
rely
on
on
zero
and
q
extension.
So
that
could
be
something
we
could
do
in
the
contrib.
D
Implementation
on
that
and
yeah
the
most
reliable
viable
way
would
probably
to
use
temporal
because
it
saves
stuff
in
the
database,
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
bit
over
the
top,
but
that
would
make
it
so
100
safe,
but
I
couldn't
create
a
ticket.
So
if
somebody
would
enter
my
interested
in
implementing
something
like
that,
then
he
or
she
could
be
feel
free
to
do
so.
D
E
D
C
A
D
Okay,
I
will
give
you
that
yeah.
I
will
give
cedric
an
update
because
I
had
when
was
it
actually.
Last
week
I
had
a
meeting
with
some
aws
guys
concerning
this
instrumentation
thing,
which
we
implemented
now
as
a
raw
interface
and
stuff
like
this,
which
will
be
used
then
later,
and
this
is
something
then
he
would
use
as
well
there
and
some
other
stuff
so
yeah.
I
will
give
him
an
update.
So
if
he's
still
working
on
it
or
not,
then
yeah
we
can.
A
F
A
Yeah
all
right,
so
we
have
we're
down
to
single
digit
tickets
for
required
for
beta.
I
don't
know
like
I
think.
We've
talked
through
all
of
these
every
week
and
I
don't
want
to
just
keep
harping
on
them.
Maybe
it's
just
important
to
remember
that
these
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
focus
on
and
see
if
anybody
can
take
them
off.
F
F
D
F
A
F
Let's
see
so
all
these,
all
these
nine
open
item
is
for
the
beta
target
unless
we
will
not
have
the
beta
release
right,
that's
correct!
Yes,
okay,
and
how
do
we
see
the
distribution
right
now?
Okay,
because
again,
this
is
the
topic
which
I
keep
on
talking
with
sanket
number
and
kisen
in
office,
because
anywhere,
if
these
guys
can
help
to
expedite
the
release
activity,
because
php
is
the
one
which
is
currently
in
the
alpha
stage.
Many
of
the
other
language
agent,
hotel,
ga
or
even
beyond.
F
A
A
D
F
Yeah
no,
no
completely
agree,
and
that's
where
I
was
suggesting
in
case
there
are
any
item
where
other
member
can
join
or
at
the
same
time
anywhere.
We
can
collaborate
just
to
help
expediting
the
progress
overall.
But
if
we
all
feel
we
are
progressing
well
and
there
is
no
blocker
or
the
bandwidth
issue,
that's
fine,
but
so
far,
based
on
these
nine
items,
don't
we
have
any
kind
of
projection
or
the
rough
estimate
like
when
can
we
have
most
of
these
completed.
A
We
do
not
have
that.
Currently,
we
don't
have
a
project
manager
for
this
project,
so
we're
not
doing
timeline
estimation
or
any
anything
along
those
lines.
If
you'd
like
to,
if
you'd
like
to
build
a
gantt
chart
for
it,
I'm
more
than
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
see
it,
but
it's
just
we
don't
have
it?
That's
not
that's.
We
don't
have
anybody
dedicated
to
creating
a
roadmap
for
us,
okay,.
F
Probably
what
next
week
we
can
just
go
through
these
items
and
individually
owner
who
are
working
on
this
if
they
can
project,
and
we
can
maintain
that
timeline
somewhere
at
least,
we
will
have
some
visibility,
if
not
exact
project
management
kind
of
thing.
Some
kind
of
rough
estimates
would
also
be
helpful
for
us
to
visualize
the
beta
release
timeline.
D
Yeah,
I'm
not
so
sure
the
problem
with
time
estimation
is
that
most
work
is
done
voluntary
and
we
cannot
force
any
anybody
to
come
up
and
I
rather
want
to
not
have
something
you
know
so
much
time
crunch,
like
most
people
usually
have
at
work.
You
know
then,
rather
make
things
clean
and
clear,
and
you
know
so
yeah,
that's
rather
hard.
So
it's
even
hard.
D
I
don't
know
doing
time
estimations
if
you
you
know,
have
like
a
something
like
a
user
story
but
and
people
working
on
something
full
time
and
scrum
sprint
or
whatever,
and
for
us
it's
even
harder.
So
I
because
I'm
looking
at
some
things
where
I
know
that
brett
and
me
have
to
work
together
and
come
up
with
something,
and
I
don't
know
how
fast
we
can
actually
ministers,
because
if
some
sometimes
some
something
more
on
the
table
than
it's
actually
seen
yeah
so
because
maintaining
stuff
here
requires
some
background
tasks
as
well.
So.
F
People
I
understand
that
completely
and
again,
as
you
said,
this
is
the
volunteer
activity
which
we
all
doing
for
the
community
and
currently
also
it's
not
like
anybody
is
asking
for
the
commitment
we
all
are
providing
and
working
as
per
the
bandwidth
availability
right.
So
even
if
somebody
is
providing
the
timeline
and
that
person
gets
some
other
priorities,
other
work.
F
Basically,
it's
not
like
we
are
holding
to
ask
like
why
you
are
not
able
to
at
least
people
have
the
justification
why
it
is
not
done,
and
that
way
at
least
some
kind
of
adjustment
would
be
possible.
Somebody
can
pitch
in
or
somebody
can
try
to
help
if
they
have
the
bandwidth
available.
So
that
was
the
only
idea,
I'm
okay.
Whatever
way
you
guys
want
to
drive
it.