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A
B
Then
there's
carlos
says
pr
about
jvm,
metrics
classes
and
thread
counts.
B
A
I
would
really
like
this
groups
to
this
group
to
look
at
that
and
the
because
I
think
it
would
be
worth
defining
loaded,
unloaded
in
total
all
together
or
at
least
two
of
them,
since
they
can
be
calculated
from
the
third
one.
Can
then.
B
Be
calculated
yeah.
I
just
made
that
exact
suggestion
on
on
the
on
the
issue
or
the
pr
okay.
I
I
suggest
that
just
having
a
classes
count
metric
and
there's
an
attribute
to
represent
whether
they're,
loaded
or
unloaded,
and
then
the
sum
of
that
is
semantically
meaningful,
which
is
you
know,
the
total
classes
that
have
been
loaded
since
the
jvm
started.
A
B
Yeah
I
I
need
to
I
need
to
okay,
edit,
that
okay
yeah.
B
Well,
it's
it!
No!
I
think
that
that
does
work.
It's
just
a
bit
goofy
so
like.
Let's,
the
the
loaded
class
count
is
the
current
number
of
classes
that
are
loaded
and
the
unloaded
class
count
is
how
many
have
been
unloaded
since
the
jvm
started,
and
so,
if
you
sum
those
together,
you
have
the
total
that
have
ever
been
loaded
since
the
jvm
started,
but
so
that
does
work.
A
Yeah,
I
feel
like
it's
weird,
because
one
of
the
one
is
loaded
and
one
is
unloaded
like
the
let's
see
so
classes
dot
count
I
see
so
you're
saying
classes.count
is
the
attribute
name,
and
then
it's
got
a
attribute.
That
says
whether
it
is
currently
like
the
currently
loaded
count.
B
Yeah,
it's
strange
because
the
unloaded
represents
the
number
unloaded
since
jvm
start
where
the
current
loaded
is
like.
You
know,
they're
currently
loaded,
not
the
the
number
that
have
been
loaded
since
jvm
start
so
they're.
Maybe
it's.
B
Right,
I
think
we
should
capture
unloaded,
though,
which
I
think
is
your
general
point.
I
was
looking
at
a
couple
of
systems:
new
relic
captures,
unloaded
classes
and
so
does
micrometer.
So
two
data
points.
A
Yeah,
do
they
capture,
so
do
they
capture
all
three
of
those?
Did
you
notice
if
new
relic
captures
all
three
of
those
or
only
two
of
them.
B
Right
and
new
relic,
I
believe,
does
the
same
thing.
I
need
to
double
check.
I
was
you
know
they
they
only
display
if
they
collect
all
three.
They
only
display
two
of
them,
so
they
only
treat
two
of
them
as
important.
A
A
What
do
you
know
what
micrometer
calls
those.
B
B
A
I'm
good
with
yeah,
if
you
want
to
maybe
propose
adding
the
unloaded.
A
Yeah
sounds
good,
yeah
yeah,
it
would
be
good
and
then
we'll
see.
If
anybody
has,
I
guess
it's
long
enough
that
it's
worth
keeping
them
shorter
the
names
I
I
always
trend
towards
verbosity
but
loaded
and
unloaded
sound
nice
and
there's
some
precedence
there.
A
Oh
yes,
yeah
wait
a
little
bit
yeah.
The
problem
was
that
there
was
something
that
I
didn't
catch
in
the
java
release,
because
there
were
so
many
issues
there
that
I'm
fixing
and
then
another
one
that
I
copied
over
something
that
used
to
work
in
the
instrumentation
repo
with
the
new
stuff
from
the
java
core
repo.
B
Yeah
we'll
get
it
squared
away,
yeah
cool
and
then
we'll
have
three
we'll
have
you
know
three
cases
where
we
exercise
the
the
logic
per
month
and
so
yep
it'll
be
it'll,
be
bulletproof,
yeah
bulletproof,
that's
right!