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A
All
right
looks
like
we
are
live
on
youtube
thanks
for
tuning
in
this
is
the
openjs
foundation
standards
working
group
meeting
for
tuesday
august
25th
got
a
fun
group
of
people
here
today
and
we
have
but
one
item
on
our
agenda
so
before
we
get
started.
Let
me
ask
those
here:
if
there
is
first
off
any
announcements
for
today,
announcements,
announcements.
A
We
do
have
some
new
cpc
members
who
have
joined
that
we
shared
on
the
previous
call
earlier
today,
so
we
want
to
shout
out
and
welcome
mary
and
darcy
and
marcin
and
also
f,
jenny
from
ajvjs
and
then
the
other
exciting
news
in
case
you
missed.
It
was
that
michael
dawson
has
been
and
reelected
the
the
the
community
director
from
the
cpc
for
the
open
gs
board
of
directors.
A
So
we're
really
excited
there
and
that's
kind
of
the
big
announcement
stuff
expect
some
blog
posts
too
about
some
of
that
all
right
and,
as
I
said,
we've
got
one
agenda
item
so
before
we
proceed
with
that.
Is
there
any
other
business
we
want
to
put
on
the
agenda
today.
A
A
Cool,
oh
and
I
guess
the
last
thing
I
will
ask-
is
just
to
put
your
name
in
the
attendees
list
on
the
note
stock,
which
I
just
popped
into
chat
right
on
thanks,
oh
and
then
robin
shared
this
before
the
call.
We
also
have
a
new
member
of
the
standards
working
group
who
was
unable
to
make
it
today
but
plans
to
join
soon
michael
champion,
who
is
in
fact
a
champion
like
a
legit
champion
of
web
standards.
A
I'm
so
excited
that
michael
will
be
will
be
joining
us.
I
think
we're
gonna
really
get
a
lot
out
of
his
participation
and
his
experience,
especially
in
the
w3c
space.
So
thank
you
robin
for
recruiting
michael.
A
Very
lucky
all
right
cool,
so
we
start
with
issue
number
102,
which
is
proposals
for
tc39,
and
we
drop
that
in
the
chat.
We
had
a
wonderful
discussion
about
this
last
week
with
gus
and
gus
indicated
at
that
point
that
it
was
pretty
clear
to
them.
What
the
next
step
on
their
side
would
be.
A
And
I'll
be
honest,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
any
further
action
on
it
that
we
want
to
do
to
track
it,
and
for
that
I
might
ask
miles
what
he
thinks.
D
Hello,
so
what
more
specifically,
would
you
be
interested
in
me
filling
in
here.
A
Well,
so
I
think
we
had
a
great
discussion
on
our
last
meeting
about
just
sort
of
like
what
our
expectations
are.
You
know
because
this
was
the
first
example
of
somebody
from
the
project
community,
bringing
forward
a
a
couple
of
ideas
here
for
the
broader
committee,
and
I
think
we
made
it
fairly
clear
that
our
role
is
really
to
help
facilitate
conversations
with
interested
parties
and
interested
stakeholders,
but
not
necessarily
to
put
a
proposal
out.
A
That
was,
you
know,
an
open,
js
foundation
proposal,
but
rather
you
know,
proposals
that
are
enthusiastically
you
know
considered
by
members
of
the
open.js
foundation,
which
is
like
slightly
different.
A
I
I
think
where
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
further
action,
is
whether
we
want
to
track
this
in
any
way
or,
like
you
know,
help
make
sure
that,
to
the
extent
that
it's
supportive
to
gus
they're
able
to
get
calls
or
conversations
or
these
things
surfaced
in
say
our
newsletters
or
blog,
or
what
exactly
we
want
to
be
doing
to
that
end.
So
I
think
that's
my,
I
think
that's
my
question.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
would
imagine
that
as
a
working
group
and
sorry
if
there's
noise,
I'm
sitting
outside
and
it's
very
manhattan
around
me,
I
think
that
there's
a
couple
different
things
that
we
could
look
into
here.
I
think
to
your
point:
it's
not
really
our
place.
D
It's
not
really
our
place
to
say
what
proposals
can
and
can't
do
right,
but
I
do
think
that
maybe
where
there
is
a
gap
right
now
that
we
could
fill
would
be
like
similar
to
how
we
talked
about
like
hey,
there's
like
a
process
that
you
can
follow.
If
you
want
to
object
to
something
here
is
like
here's,
how
you
could
maybe
do
it.
D
I
think
that
maybe
similarly
for
a
proposal,
we
should
at
least
set
the
requirements
for
like
hey,
there's
like
the
minimal
expectations
of
like
what
we
expect
you
the
delegate
to
do.
I
also
think
that,
in
a
case
of
gus,
there's
an
there's
an
interesting
thing
here,
where,
like
on
what,
in
one
case
gus,
is
the
delegate
from
open
js
to
tc39,
in
which
case
he
represents
like
the
all
the
foundation
projects
in
his
attendance
in
their
attendance,
but
also
at
the
same
time,.
D
Not
from
open.js,
so
I
think
in
gus's
case
it's
a
little
interesting,
because
this
is
like
kind
of
like
inflating
the
two
different
positions
that
he's
playing
as
both
kind
of
like
the
delegates
who
represent
this
and
the
individual
who's
interested
in
pursuing
it.
But
let's
say
it
like:
wasn't
gus
who
was
coming
up
with
this
proposal
like
what
would
be
the
pro?
What
would
be
the
process
by
which
that
individual
could
bring
these
things
forward?
D
D
Is
on
the
up
and
up-
and
it
may
very
well
be
you
know
any
proposals
that
want
to
go
go
that
could
be
the
extent
of
governance
that
we
have,
but
I
think
that
kind
of
falls
on
us
to
to
clarify
and
from
you
know,
gus's
position,
then
maybe
we
just
need
to
like
create
a
venue
for
them
to
solicit
this
feedback.
If
they're
interested
in
getting
from
the
foundation
foundation
projects
prior
to
bringing.
A
I
think
that
makes
sense
as
sort
of
kind
of
distilling
that
into
like
tactical
things
that
we
can
do,
one
is
documenting
more
clearly
like
the
expected.
A
You
know
kind
of
process
for
proposals,
whether
that
proposal
is
coming
from
node
or
coming
from
message
format
or
you
know,
node,
red
or
whatever,
so
it's
a
documentation
and
then
also
an
action
of
creating
the
then
the
forum
for
broader
input
and
feedback
beyond
that
specific
project,
and
I
feel
like
that
that
seems
like
good
places
to
put
energy
and
get
started.
What
do
you
all
think.
A
A
Here
there
are
a
handful
of
things
that
we
voted
on
at
the
w3c
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
new
patent
policy
and
the
new
process
document,
and
things
like
that-
and
I
think
those
are
cases
where
a
representative
is
is
expected
to
actually
cast
a
ballot
on
behalf
of
the
organization
and
so
perhaps
similarly
to
that
venue
for
soliciting
feedback
on,
say,
a
tech
proposal
for
tc39.
A
A
All
right,
so
that
brings
us
to
actually
I
thought
of
another
ad
hoc
thing.
If
I
can
put
if
donovan
doesn't
mind
me
putting
us
on
the
spot,
which
is
just
reporting
on
tc53
activities
here
in
just
a
minute
so
meeting
time.
That
was
one
that
emily
reminded
me
that
we
should
bring
up
so
we've
been
taking
this
1800
utc
time
slot
every
other
week.
A
It's
been
pretty
consistently
good
for
us,
but
it's
possible
that
we
want
to
either
add
an
alternating
time
or
change
it
up
a
bit
to
allow
more
flexibility
for
the
larger
cpc
meeting.
A
B
My
main
main
main
gist
of
why
I
thought
we
should
talk
about
this-
is
that
at
least
for
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
the
openjs
monthly
call
the
the
one
that
is
on
on
this
day
in
two
weeks
and
in
four
weeks
is
gonna
be
two
hours
earlier
than
normal,
and
this
means
that
there's
not
going
to
be
a
sort
of
hour
gap,
but
there's
going
to
be
a
three-hour
gap
between
the
the
meetings
between
the
the
the
cpc
meeting
and
the
standards
meeting,
and
I
don't
really
have
an
opinion
on.
B
C
E
That's
a
good
idea
to
go
back-to-back,
but
on
the
other
hand,
if
I
mean
like
we
can
move
in
that
direction,
if
you
decided
to
host
the
cpc
meeting
consistently
for
that
time,
like
we
moved
the
cpc
meeting
earlier,
if
we
decide
that
we
are
going
to
do
that
consistently,
then
maybe
we
can
decide
to
move
this
meeting
into
an
earlier
start,
but
we
are
just
trying
it
out
for
two
weeks
so
with
the
two
next
two
weeks,
can
we
just
stay
on
the
same
time
and
then
probably
if
we
decided
to
go
there,
then
we
can
move
this
meeting.
A
And
I'm
I'm
very
flexible.
I
don't.
I
really
honestly,
don't
have
a
super
strong
opinion
about
it,
other
than
to
agree
that
it
may
be
easier
for
people
to
have
the
especially
those
who
attend
both
the
cpc
meeting
and
this
meeting
to
do
those
back-to-back,
because
it's
just
a
chunk
of
time
that
then
becomes
easier
to
block
off
the
gap
in
between
is
sometimes
just
tough
but
other
than
that.
A
B
On
my
part,
I
don't
really
care
either
way.
As
you
may
have
observed,
I
picked
up
a
habit
of
going
on
a
walk
while
doing
these
conferences
and,
as
you
might
be
able
to
observe
it's
not
as
bright
here
as
it
used
to
be
during
the
summer,
so
the
loss
here
will
be
that
I'll,
be
you
know
more
and
darker
and
darker
as
the
year
goes
on.
A
Well
and
colder
and
colder,
and
eventually
the
weather,
may
not
cooperate
with
your
walks
so
anyway.
No,
I
I
think
it's
lovely
that
you
go
on
the
walks
during
these
meetings,
like
always
slightly
jealous,
to
be
frank,
so
cindel.
So
sorry,
you
were
suggesting
that
we
wait
for
the
experiment
for
a
couple
weeks
to
see
how
the
the
cpc
experiment
goes
and
then,
if
they
plan
to
stick
with
it,
we
adjust
the
meeting
time
to
go
back.
To
back.
Was
that
correct.
E
Yeah,
that
does
the
that's.
That's
it
yeah.
A
All
right,
so
that
takes
to
the
last
unscheduled
but
also
interesting,
ad
hoc
item,
which
is
a
quick
update
on
tc53
activities,
because
we
had
a
tcp
53
meeting.
I
can
say
that
word
tc53
meeting
mid
last
week
and
the
the
committee's
making
a
lot
of
progress
on
its
on
its
very
very
first
specification.
A
I
wonder
if
donovan
you
want
to
add
anything
or
or
share
anything
if
you're
in
a
position.
F
Sure
I
could
just
you
mentioned
that
they're
working
on,
I
think
it's
three
or
four
different
specifications
for
hosts
for
io
and
then
for
built-in
providers.
Those
are
the
major
ones.
Oh,
the
sensor
class
pattern
is
the
other
one.
They
are
still
kind
of
running
through
the
first
draft.
A
A
So
do
you
think
that's
something
we'll
want
to
share
with
like
some
of
our
project
communities
and
to
get
get
input
on
and
kind
of
share
like
that
level
of
of
sharing?
Or
you
know
what
level.
F
You're
sharing,
I
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
to
make
make
an
announcement
and
try
and
find
a
a
way
to
identify
which
projects
would
be
interested.
You
know,
there's
some
that
have
a
tangential
relationship
with
with
what's
going
on,
not
too
many
that
are,
you
know
directly
involved.
I
can't
think
of
any
hardware
projects
in
the
open.js
foundation,
but
they
do.
F
A
A
Because
it
is
a
it's
an
it's
a
newer
committee,
but
the
the
tech
for
people
is
probably
going
to
be
somewhat
familiar
and
I
think
there's
a
opportunity
for
high
impact
and
also
getting
started.
A
Oh
bye
miles
thanks
for
for
joining.
So
if
you're
interested
in
kind
of
getting
involved
in
a
relatively
new
group,
low
pressure,
you
know
lots
of
fun
sort
of
environment.
I
think
it's
a
great
group
so-
and
I.
C
C
We
could
do
something
on
our
youtube
channel,
an
interactive
session
kind
of
like
the
amas,
so
really
sky's
the
limit
on
how
we
want
to
share
that
information.
We
can
survey
folks
and
see
who's
interested
and
we,
you
know
we
can
go
to
their
meetings
and
share
information
on
maybe
the
the
big
ones.
A
Awesome
all
right!
Well,
those
are
my
those
are
the
three
things
that
we
had
any
other
business
for
today.