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UCF TAC Meeting 2021 03 25
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B
Started
officially
this
time,
thank
you
guys
for
coming
for
this
March's
Urban
Computing
Foundation
me
attack
meeting
this
meeting
based
on
our
discussion
last
time.
We
were
focusing
more
on
the
strategy
section
and
we
will
review
our
budget
of
2021
and
then,
as
a
round
table
discussion.
B
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
do
we
want
to
achieve
together
as
Tech,
and
how
can
we
make
the
tag
more
relevant,
our
agenda,
more
relevant
and
so
on
and
so
forth
and
last
time
I
think
people
were
asking
about
the
budget
and
how
can
we?
How
is
spending
money
kale?
So
this
is
our
2021
budget
and
I.
A
A
So
in
community
engagement
we
have
a
small
amount
of
money
budgeted
for
press
releases
and
for
like
small
updates
to
the
website.
A
This
is
so
it's
like
a
small
we
have
a
bucket
so
that
we,
if
we
need
you,
know
new
posts
added
or
things
change.
The
creative
Services
team
can
add
stuff
to
it
for
us
and
then,
if
we
have
press
releases,
then
we
have
a
little
bit
of
money
allocated
for
like
the
wire
fees
and
to
have
someone
help
write.
Those
for
us.
A
Excuse
me,
the
legal
subtotal
that
amount
that
we
see
there
is
to
go
towards
the
trademark
renewal
for
map
Zen.
There
theirs
is
coming
up
next
year,
their
trademark
renewal
We
have
basically
one
year
to
get
it
updated.
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
money
tucked
away
here,
to
focus
on
that
staff
and
operation
subtotal.
That's
your
kind
of
operational
program
managers
that
would
be
me
or
someone
similar
to
me
doing
the
work
to
support
the
foundation
and
then
in
development.
A
You
have
excuse
me
I'm,
sharing,
Sean's,
take
over
my
throat
today.
That's
like
gonna
be
GitHub.
The
cost
of
having
our
Zoom
account
for
this
is
for
the
whole
Foundation,
the
zoom
account
and
like
hosting
to
small
expenses.
They
kind
of
add
up
there.
So
what
you'll
see
is-
and
we
took
out
quite
a
bit
to
try
and
make
the
budget
a
little
pretty
lean.
The
total
expenses
are
forty
five
thousand
dollars
because
we
lost
two
members
last
year:
membership
revenues
at
thirty
thousand
dollars.
A
So
last
year
we
didn't
spend,
we
spent
very
little
of
our
community
engagement
expense,
so
that
was
able
to
carry
over.
And
since
we
didn't
have
events
and
we
had
planned
to
have
events
the
money
allocated
to
that
carried
over,
and
at
that
time
we
had
revenue
of
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
we
had
extra
that
21
21
000
rolled
over
from
last
year
and
that
kind
of
helped
cover
the
balance.
And
then
we
have
a
forecasted
balance
of
six
thousand
dollars.
A
What
this
means,
though,
is
that
we're
kind
of
our
bills
are
all
paid
for
this
year
for
2021
and
we're
able
to
you
know,
continue
running
and
keep
things
up
and
running
as
far
as
my
the
LF
set
of
things,
and
but
it
means
that
next
year,
there's
not
really
enough
money
to
cover
the
full
expenses.
A
So
what
I
don't
want
to
be
totally
transparent
with
you
guys,
so
you
have
a
full
kind
of
vision
here
about
the
future
of
the
foundation
as
a
whole,
so
this
doesn't
mean
that
the
projects
living
in
urban
competing
Foundation
die
or
go
away
because
they're
all
very
successful
and
really
growing
a
lot
and
have
a
lot
of
usage.
If
we
decide
you
know
as
a
project,
that's
U.S
attack
and
the
governing
board
were
to
make
the
decision
to
say.
Okay,
let's
make
an
unfunded
project.
A
That
would
mean
that
you'd
stop
having
governing
board
members,
but
you
would
be
crowdfunded
as
needed,
so
people
can
donate
money
to
the
foundations.
Keep
them
running.
Nlf
would
continue
to
pay.
For
you
know,
domain
renewals,
GitHub
things,
and
you
could
still
ping
us
for
stuff
that
you
need
to
help
support
they'd
still
pay
for
the
websites,
so
LF
would
just
kind
of
pay
for
that
directly
pay
for
the
website.
A
Domains,
GitHub
things
like
that.
It
would
just
be
like
a
community
run
model
and
we
do
have
other
projects
that
do
that.
You
know,
especially
if
projects
that
have
a
lot
of
technical
engagement
like
ours,
but
have
less
kind
of
the
business
side.
Engagement,
do
kind
of
move
to
a
crowdfunding
model
and
we
LF
can
help
manage
that.
A
We
can
help
set
the
accounts
and
our
you
know,
our
finance
team
would
still
help
you
guys
like
bring
in
the
money
and
process
it
and
all
that
stuff,
so
that
would
be
kind
of
a
way
like
if
membership
Revenue
doesn't
increase,
that's
a
way
for
the
foundation
to
continue
receiving
support
and
all
the
projects
to
get
support
it
just
wouldn't
be.
You
wouldn't
have
like
me,
or
you
wouldn't
have
like
someone
kind
of
overseeing
the
end
on
operation.
So
that's
like
a
community-run
model,
so
I'll
stop
there.
A
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
yet
on
so
Travis
I
see
you
have
a
question,
the
remaining
paying
members
are
Uber,
and
here
and
the
membership
dues
for
the
premiere
level
are
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year.
We
did
add
a
general
membership
tier
that
has
a
much
smaller
amount
because
it
is
smaller.
We'd
have
to
add
a
lot
of
General
members
to
help
like
really
make
a
dent
in
kind
of
what
we
we
mean.
A
So
yeah,
what's
left
is
Emma
Uber
in
here
yeah
heavier,
that's
right!
So
as
it
is
right
now
in
the
current
state
to
run
the
foundation
the
way
it
is
right
now
with
like
me
having
LF
legal
team
lfg,
a
and
LF
marketing,
creative
and
lfit,
that's
about
three
three
Premier
Members
would
kind
of
be
the
minimum
you'd
need
to
to
keep
running
but
like
if
the
foundation
decides
you
know,
maybe
we're
going
to
focus
on
just
being
community-run
I
mean
technical
crowd.
A
And
I
wanted
to
be
like,
since
you
want
a
technical
community,
you
are
the
ones
who
are
really
seeing
the
growth
and
seeing
the
usage
and
seeing
the
real
value
in
LF.
We
see
the
value
of
this
and
we
want
to
be
successful
so
we're
here
to
help
help,
make
it
as
successful
as
possible.
Whatever
path
that
looks
like
okay,
I
was
asking,
is
the
UCF
overhead
fixed
or
if
we
add
more
members
of
the
overhead
go
up,
so
the
GNA
might
go
up
a
little
bit.
A
It's
a
it's
like
a
formula
model,
but
it
wouldn't
go
up
a
lot.
It's
like
half
a
percent
or
something
like
that.
You'd
see
a
small
percentage
go
up
on
GNA
staff
and
operations.
A
So
that
depends
on
how
much
like
how
much
your
infrastructure
is
being
used.
So,
if
you
added
hosting
to
that,
so
it's
more
on
needs,
but
by
default,
no,
the
UCF
overhead
doesn't
doesn't
really
go
up
until
until
the
need
starts
happening.
So
just
adding
more
members
doesn't
cause
the
fee
to
go
up.
Having
more
activities
would
cause
the
fee
to
go
up.
A
I'm,
like
you
know,
if
you
got
to
a
certain
size
and
wanted
to
start
doing
more
marketing
and
more
events,
you'd
bring
in
that's
more
services
and
activities
that
would
cause
us
fees
to
go
up
because
there
are
event
fees
or
if
you
want
to
have
a
lot
of
PR.
There
are
fees
for
that
stuff.
So
it
just
depends
on
what
the
kind
of
strategy
is
for
the
project
and
what
the
activities
are.
B
So
for
2021
budget
we
have
7
000
allocated
to
community
engagement.
A
That
is
for
the
bucket
set
aside
for
website
updates.
We
didn't
use
that
at
all
last
year,
it's
just
five
thousand
dollars,
and
then
there
is
a
small
bucket
set
aside
for
press
releases.
Those
come
out.
We
only
had
one
last
year
those
can
range
from
like
1500
to
3,
000
or
more
depending
on
what
the
wire
fees
are
at
the
time
or
if
we
there's
like
the
package,
it's
an
external
firm.
A
We
use
there's
a
package
where
we
write
the
press,
release
the
pr
firm
releases
it
over
the
newswire
or
there's
a
package
where
we
ask
them
to
write
it,
and
since
we
don't
really
have
a
PR
person
for
UCF
and
I'm,
not
a
PR
person,
we
usually
have
them
write
those
so
we're
budgeted
for
about
one
of
those.
So
it's
website
updates,
PR,
plus
newswire
and
then
I
believe
your
Zoom
is
bundled
into
that
as
well,
and
that's
for
the
full
foundation.
A
I
see
IB
asking
a
question:
how
about
transferring
new
Frameworks?
It
requires
legal
help
of
Google
Community
model.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
Actually,
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
sure
I
know
there
is.
There
is
legal
involved
and
so
for
trademark
transfers
depending
a
non
trademark
expert
at
all
by
any
means
but
like
if
there
has
to
be
a
trademark
filing.
A
Sometimes
we
have
to
work
with
a
third
party
legal
firm
for
that
legal
counsel
to
do
trademarky
stuff
and
they
do
have
a
fee
for
that.
So
it
just
depends.
A
I'd
have
to
ask
get
some
more
information
from
our
legal
team.
True
phrase:
would
we
be
able
to
take
in
new
projects
in
the
community
model
yeah?
Yes,
you
should
be
able
to
yeah,
but
again,
I'd
want
to
ask
the
I
had
not
asked
our
legal
team
prepared.
This
call
how
that
part
operates
so
I'll
have
to
ask
them
just
again.
I'll
take
an
action
item
too,
to
kind
of
get
some
more
information
on
that.
C
A
Yeah,
so
we're
good
for
2021,
it's
20
20.,
so
we
have,
you
know
some
time
to
plan,
but
the
months
move
pretty
quickly.
So
we
want
to
start
thinking
about
how
to
move
a
2022.,
because
if
you
are,
if
kind
of
the
project
you
and
the
governing
board
decide
you
know,
let's
go
to
a
community
model
in
2022,
then
we
want
to
start
doing
that
as
soon
as
possible.
So
we
can
make
sure
it's
a
really
like
smooth
transition
and
you
have
full
support
the
whole
way.
B
D
So
I
I
put
some
bullets
here,
but
I
mean
generally
I,
think
it'd
be
good
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
round
table.
I.
Think
the
last
meetings
there
has
been
a
lot
of
information
from
Sean
and
perhaps
myself,
but
you
know
just
get
the
kind
of
feedback
on
what
you
know
why?
Why
are
we
calling
into
this
meeting?
Why
are
we
here?
Why
do
we
care
for
every
one
of
us?
D
How
do
we
make
the
best
use
of
our
time
here,
and
so
how
do
we
make
this
meeting
more
relevant
to
to
everyone
here?
The
slide
is
messed
up,
but
you
know,
obviously,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
focusing
on
right
now
is:
how
can
we
promote
and
develop
the
UCF,
and
you
know
one
of
the
intentions
here
was:
can
we
invite
new
members
UCF
users,
and
that
was
basically
it
the
others-
are
coming,
there's
some
better
tip
from
a
different
slide.
D
So
this
is
something
that
we
will
comment
on
in
in
in
in
other
slides,
but
you
know,
but
how
can
we?
How
can
we
make
the
mode?
How
can
we
create
the
most
value
out
of
these?
These
meetings?
D
I
mean
some
some
members
here,
maybe
ever
hear
more
as
observers
and
that's
fine,
but.
E
Well,
I
would
I
would
maybe
jump
in
and
maybe
even
rephrase
it
to
be
more
kind
of
project,
focused
I.
Think
there's
like
some
really
successful
projects
that
have
come
together
under
the
urban
competing
Foundation
throughout
the
last
year
and
there's
like
visual,
really
productive,
critical,
sort
of
planning
and
Tech
meetings
going
on.
E
You
know
with
respect
to
that
project.
It
seems
it
you
know,
does
it
could
it
make
sense
to
just
basically
like
roll
this
all
together
and
have
this
that
restructure
the
tech
potentially
to
be
more
focused
on
kind
of
the
the
refactored
attack?
You
know
now
that
we
have
kind
of
know
what
the
state
of
things
are,
what
the
the
projects
that
have
them
kind
of
most
interest
to
you
know
folks,
in
this
in
this
in
this
foundation,
and
have
it
be
more
focused
on
kind
of
like
the
the
project
Logistics.
D
Yeah,
so
we
have
a
we
have
attack
or
to
technical
steering
committee
for
the
bistro
meetings
where
we
we
work
for
the
meeting
details,
but
I
guess
this
is
the
meeting
where
we
would
all
the
projects.
D
I'm,
looking
through
the
list,
we
don't
have
that
many
external
people
we
have
Mike
Michael
is
it's
here.
I,
don't
know
if
you'd
care
to
give
us
some
thoughts
on.
F
Yeah
I
I
can
try
to
give
some
thoughts,
so
I,
yeah
I,
don't
know
I
I
I,
followed,
let's
say
the
the
foundation
for
I,
don't
know
about
two
years
or
something
so
so
we
we
met
before
the
pandemics
but
and
I'm
I'm,
just
a
user
on
one
side
but
on
the
other
hand,
Also,
let's
say
interested
in
in
how
how
open
source
community
building
and
and
Foundation
Building
works
at
large.
F
So
we
have
an
open
source
project
or
ourselves,
which
is
a
Zumo
simulation
of
probability,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
very
interested
also
in
this
discussion
here
today,
how
you
think
this
problem
on
how
to
have
a
sustainable
model
for
open
source
is
working,
and
so
we
are
with
sumo
part
of
the
eclipse
Foundation.
F
So
yeah
I
don't
want
to
do
advertisements
here,
but
the
point
is
there
is
more
than
just
Lino's
Foundation,
just
just
to
just
say
this
is
this
could
also
be
an
option
here.
If,
if
you
want
me
to
to
explain
how
we
do
this,
then
I
will
but
I
don't
want
to.
You
know
occupy
your
meeting
here.
D
Yeah
I
mean,
like
I
mean
any
any
discussion
could
be
had
right
and
I
mean.
Ultimately,
this
is
about
the
health
of
this
project
and
it's
UCF
and
Linux
Foundation.
You
know
the
right
home,
because
if
you
really
don't
get
traction
here,
you
know
and
I'm
not
suggest
suggesting
that
I'm
thinking
in
along
those
lines.
But
you
know
it's
all
about
you
know
really
making
these
taking
these
projects
to
their
potential
and
being
able
to
get
them.
You
know
first
to
open
source
and
then
to
open
governance.
D
C
If
I
may,
if
I
may
contributing
here
so
I
think
you're
gonna,
probably
my
way
of
thinking
is
that
we
probably
need
to
go
back
a
little
bit
to
the
basics
right
about
what
we
are
here
in
a
way.
So
the
the
urban
company
Foundation
probably
started
with
a
very
much
bigger
and
ambitious
color
picture
in
it,
and
but
as
it
is
going
I
think
well.
First
of
all,
we
have
to
think
pragmatic.
We
have
a
full
year
paid
for
UCF,
and
that's
I
mean
it's
quite
some
money
and
it's
quite
some
resources.
C
So
I
think
you
know
we
we
should,
you
know
not
change.
We
should.
We
would
like
to
try
to
see
how
we
can
maximize
the
investment
that
is
available
for
us
within
this
year.
So
that's
from
instead
of
you
know,
discussing
we
moved
to
a
different
Foundation.
Although
with
that
being
said,
probably
we
want
to
put
ourselves
a
deadline
in
something
like
September
October,
where
we
decide
like
hey,
so
so
we're
continuing
UCF
as
it
is.
So
we
continue.
You
know
with
the
with
the
community
engagement
model.
Also,
we
move
to
another
Foundation
I.
C
Think
there's
like
a
milestone
that
we
have
to
put
somewhere
in
around
September
October
or
whatever
we
consider,
but
meanwhile
I
think
right
now,
I
mean
the
resources.
Are
there,
the
the
bills
are
paid
will
be,
I
think
will
be
I,
think
it
will
be
a
Pity
not
to
color
use
the
resources
that
we
have
right
now.
But
with
that
being
said,
it's
like
how
do
we
use
the
resources
that
we
have
in
a
way
that
you
know
maximizes
the
interest
of
this
team
and
Cloud?
C
You
know
like
potential
color
give
us
you
know
like
a
longer
term.
You
know
like
potential
this
one
and
for
that
I
think
you're
like
going
to
Basics
means
right
now.
The
biggest
engagement
that
we
have
on
the
community
on
the
foundation
is
around
the
bsgl
framework.
That's
the
that's!
That's
the
reality
of
it.
I
think
you
know,
there's
the
there
is
the
maps
in
which
I
think
is
great,
but
in
a
way
I
mean
there
doesn't
seem
to
be.
You
know
like
something
that
you
know
like
we.
C
We
have
the
capability
within
this
core
team
that
we
are
here
to
influence
too
much
in
full
on
that,
so
I
think
it
can
stay
there,
but
it's
not
going
to
help
us
away
so
I
think.
In
that
sense,
business
has
to
be
the
place
and
and
for
me,
what
is
the
value
of
a
foundation
like
this,
if,
like
this
week
and
I'm,
sorry
I
missed
and
actually
owe
you
still
an
email,
we
got
a
perfect
example
of
that
Google.
It's
well.
C
Let
me
actually,
let's
remove
names,
but
you
know,
a
big
organization
is
interested
on.
You
know,
like
actually
kind
of
like
having
some
parts
of
vcl
further
develop
to
not
increase
interoperability
with
other
products.
That's
a
fantastic
type
of
project
for
the
UCF
to
channel
in
a
way
and
companies
inside
you
know
the
UCF
to
collect
then
enable
either
through
through
some
contractors
or
the
companies
or
whoever
it
is.
But
you
know
like
with
the
way
that
I
see
the
UCF
is
that
found?
Is
that
place
where
you
know
like
more
than
promotion?
C
We
actually
increase
the
interoperability
of
this
GL
until
I
make
it
reads:
bigger
places
in
that
sense
and
and
the
and
the
big
and
the
big
advantage
that
we
have
is
that
this
GL
runs
under
governance
model
versus
other
open
source
projects
out
there.
You
know
that
are
not
like
that.
So
in
that
sense
we
are
like
the
the
most
real
open
source
project
right
now
that
are
for
geospatial
data
visualization
on
the
available
right
now
in
the
industry
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
an
asset
that
we
have
to.
C
C
You
know
so
probably
got
like
consider
investing
in
here
so,
but
with
that
being
said,
I
mean
like
then.
What
is
the
role
of
the
attack?
I?
C
Is
that
the
majority
of
the
people
that
are
in
here?
So
that's
a
little
bit
my
picture
and
I
do
have
ideas
about
how
we
can
you
know
like
increase
the
interest,
and
you
know
how
we
collaborate
these
resources
and
so
on.
But
just
talking
about
processes
alone
is
not
going
to
help
us.
It's
not
going
to
make
any
difference.
It's
just
going
to
get.
You
know
less
people
coming
to
these
meetings,
yeah
and
then
in
September,
we'll
have
to
decide
to
do
something
else.
Yeah.
E
So,
along
those
lines
is
it
time
to
maybe
refactor?
The
attack
to
you
know
maybe
update
the
membership
to
align
more
with
kind
of
like
how
the
Strategic
importance
of
a
strategic
focus
of
going
to
the
urban
Computing
Foundation
is
for
pragmatic
reasons,
largely
kind
of
gravitating
around
Visual
and
the
the
activity
and
interest
there.
E
E
Tech
members
who,
like
like
you
know
if
we
look
at
just
kind
of
attendance,
I
I,
know
I'm
guilty
of
this
as
well
I've
sort
of
moved
on
where
I'm
like
100
professionally
focused
on
this
stuff,
and
you
know
because
of
that,
if
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
me
personally
on
this
attack,
you
know
I
can
step
back
and
like
make
room
for
other
people
who
are
like
more
like
dedicated
and
focused
to
this
stuff.
You
know
either
professionally
or
like
directly
contributed
to
these
projects.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
do
a
round
of
reaching
out
to
current
Tech
members,
and
also
you
know,
I
propose
to
inviting
the
each
project
have
a
lead
member
to
be
on
the
attack,
so
we'll
be
more
involvement
from
the
actual
project
site.
C
But
I
think
you
know
like
if
one
of
the
most
important
is
like
if
we
set
as
the
goal
of
the
foundation,
if
we
refactor
what
is
the
goal
of
the
foundation
or
the
attack
in
a
way
towards
you
know
like
increasing
the
use
of
usage
of
this
GL
and
its
ecosystem,
and
so
on,
then
I
think
we
could
have
probably
a
much
more
direct
type
of
conversation,
which
I
think
should
be
here.
Strategic
conversations
around.
You
know
like
hey.
How
can
we
you
know,
like
maybe
you
know
like
advertise
this
in
this
forum?
C
You
know
like
how
we
can
maybe
you
know
like?
Does
anybody
have
and
know
someone
knows
in
a
company
that
you
know
we
can
so
since
they
got
like
work,
this
team,
as
a
business
development
type
of
group
around
the
promotion
of
the
PCL
and
then
I
think
you're
like
that?
That's
that's
the
way
that
I'm
thinking
foreign.
B
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
prepared,
slides,
yes,
I
can
go
through
this
and
I
think
it's
very
much
in
line
with
what
you're
saying,
but
I
think
we
could
I
think
this
is
a
good
shelter
right.
So
the
tech
is
about
the
promotion
and
development
of
of
the
UCF,
and
you
know,
obviously
you
know
focusing
on
the
most
active
projects,
but
also
how
can
we
get
more
members?
How
can
we
get
more
projects?
How
can
we
and
build
out
this
this
thing,
so
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
D
C
Other
thing
that
attracted
me
about
UCF
by
the
way-
sorry
just
if
this
is
just
to
add
on
this,
which
I
think
probably
I
was
thinking
if
we
manage
to
kind
of
get
enough
members
to
actually
color
contributing
here
could
also
be
a
good
place
for
actually
sourcing
projects
that
that
you
know
like
benefits.
All
of
us
benefit
interoperability.
C
You
know,
among
you,
know
this
framework
yeah,
but
that
we
don't
I
mean
there
is
one
company
paying
that
we
can
all
chip
in
in
a
way
right.
So
I
think
you
know
that
that
is
something
that
you
know
like
we
always
said
and
I
know,
that's
always
been
on
the
on
the
board.
Car,
like
of
the
UCF
right
actually
haven't,
seen
any
project
actually
really
funded
by
UCF.
B
Yeah
to
my
I
think
to
me:
I
think:
that's
what
exactly
what
tech
should
be
doing
right
and
this
is
basically
create
a
forum
like,
for
example,
Javier.
You
came
to
the
taxing
I.
Had
this
project,
I
have
interesting
looking
for
fundings
and
then
other
companies
who
are
also
part
of
UCL
or
we
are
familiar
with
with
you
know.
Oh
I
heard
of
you
know
Google
might
be
interested
in
this
and
we
bring
other
players
on
the
table
and
come
together
to
work
on
promoting
collaborations
overcomes
same
project.
B
E
Realistically,
we
haven't
been
too
successful
with
that.
You
know
to
just
be
kind
of
real
I.
Think
not
that
I
disagree
with
like
that
sort
of
vision
for
things,
I
think
when
we've
talked
about
it
before,
maybe
through
a
combination
of
like
not
having
like
a
clear
path
for
funding
to
to
clearly
and
directly
go
towards
kind
of
the
specific
needs
or
potentially
it's
because
of
like
the
needs
not
being
perfectly
aligned
with.
E
You
know
at
the
consensus
around
those
needs
and
that
being
the
direction
or
something
like
that.
So
maybe
that
gets
more
into
kind
of
like
the
the
next
steps
are
going
forward.
But
if
it's
at
it's
gonna
be
one
of
the
kind
of
the
core
functions
of
the
urban
Computing
Foundation
sitting
above
Vizio
to
kind
of
enable
funding
specifically
to
go
towards
development
and
like
tangible
technical
work,
we
need
to
like
kind
of
reflect
on
what
hasn't
been
working
there
and
what
to
change.
C
D
C
Think
the
one
thing
that
could
help-
and
you
know
we
never
did
attack
but
I-
think
you
could
potentially
help
on
that
direction-
is
that
we
still
have
like
as
a
tech
group.
If
we
are
like
focused
on
BCL,
like
we
were
saying,
have
like
a
a
very
clear
picture
of
things
that
could
actually
be
done.
That
could
be
fundable
right
because
there's
cases
where
from
the
external
are
going
to
come
and
say
like
hey,
could
someone
help
me
to
get
this
done
and
so
on?
C
And
then
we
can
maybe
make
it
happen
if
it's
good
and
so
on,
but
also
I
mean
there
is
there
is
areas
of
vcl
that
could
be
already
funded,
that
each
of
us
have
in
our
minds,
but
we're
not
really
necessarily
making
your
life
too
public
around
it
and
I
know
I
mean,
and
that
also
has
conflicted
a
little
bit
apparently
with
the
legal
aspects
of
the
of
the
Linux
Foundation,
which
I
think
we
should
clear
out
very
very
well.
D
Yeah
I
think
we've
made
some
progress
on
it.
You
know
now
we
have
at
least
a
clear
statement
of
the
budget.
It's
been
kind
of
hard
to
nail
down
exactly
what
that
means,
and
obviously
the
first
step
is
to
understand
how
much
money
is
there,
and
you
know
how
much
money
we
would
get
if
we
add
additional
members
and
then
we
had
other
problems,
I
mean
we
can
actually
go
into
the
slideshan,
because
I
have
prepared.
B
D
So
yeah
I
mean
on
on
the
funding
side
of
it.
It's
I
mean
there
are
two
things
right.
One
is
like
you
know
the
funding
that
is
in
the
UCF.
How
do
we
even
manage
it?
How
much
is
even
available?
You
know
out
of
the
kind
of
membership
fees,
and
you
know
once
we
understand
that.
Then,
of
course
we
have
additional
work
to
do
that.
How
do
we
govern
that
money?
If
we
actually
have
a
chunk
of
money?
How
do
we
decide
and
I?
Guess
we
as
attack?
D
Would
we
be
the
people
who
decide
how
that
is
being
spent
and
right
now,
there's
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
you
know,
then
the
question
is:
how
do
people
want
to
fund
this
right?
If
we
have
big
companies
out
there,
you
know
that
want
to
fund
something.
Would
they
like
to
go
directly
to
you
know
various
companies
that
are
part
of
the
ecosystem
and
Landscape?
We
would
just
have
a
list
of
companies
who
can
provide
those
services,
or
would
they
want
to
go
and
channel
the
funding
through
this?
D
So
if
there
is
a
big
contract,
let's
say
100K
that
someone
wants
to
invest
to
improve.
You
know,
should
that,
should
we
have
offer
that
option
to
kind
of
Channel
it
through
through
the
UCF.
You
know,
maybe
for
some
companies
they
can.
You
know
they're
more
comfortable
with
you
funding
an
open
source
Foundation
rather
than
go
directly,
but
then
obviously
we
have
to
have
a
very
efficient
way
of
of
a
gun
coming
together
and
understand,
and
you
know,
but
how
we
then,
because
ultimately,
someone
needs
to
do
the
work
right.
D
D
You
know
some
week
ago
and-
and
we
discussed
these
things
and
the
directions
from
the
board
meetings
that
I
got
that
I
felt
was
pretty
clear,
is
like
how
do
we
kind
of
list
companies
on
on
the
page
right,
and
certainly
companies
like
unfolded
that
Einstein
come
from
in
Carter
are
putting
a
lot
of
money
into
this,
really
the
ones
who
are
paying
for
the
development
right
now.
We
would
love
to
be
on
this
page,
but
the
kind
of
directions
was
that
it
should
be
very
inclusive.
D
If
we're
going
to
have
a
landscape,
you
know
really
any
company
should
be
able
to
join,
and
so
you
know
list
themselves
there
right
and,
and
it
shouldn't
be
like
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
value
to
that,
and
so
so
basically
you
would
have
four
different
tiers.
Now
you
jump
to
a
different
slide.
D
Then
there
would
be
a
contributor
section
and
then
basically
analog
stating
they're
contributing
to
UCF
projects,
whether
they
are
or
not,
basically
can
list
themselves
as
a
contributor.
Companies
can
also
just
apply
to
list
themselves
as
users.
We
are
someone
who's
using
this.
You
know
it's
important
to
us
and
then
there
is
some
kind
of
and,
like
maybe
I,
didn't
get
the
name
right
there,
but
some
kind
of
service
providers
and
anyone
who
you
know,
builds
products
on
top
of
this
or
offer
services
around.
This
would
be
able
to
list
themselves
there.
D
And
so
you
know,
certainly
you
know
unfolded.
We
offer
you
know
development
work
as
you
as
as
Carter
right
so,
but
it
would
be
very
inclusive.
Anyone
can
register
to
be
listed
because
and
it's
good
because
we
get
more
names,
the
ecosystem
looks
stronger
and
it's
also
non-exclusive.
You
can
list
yourselves
in
in
multiple
sections.
You
know.
Obviously
you
can
only
be
a
member
in
the
member
section
if
you're
actually
a
paid
member,
but
but
otherwise
it's
it's
extremely
open
and
we
discussed
a
little
bit.
D
You
know
some
foundations,
some
projects
have
automated
forms
and
stuff,
but
I
mean
at
the
at
the
start.
We
could
just
have
some
UCF
email
where,
where
people
could
ask
themselves
to
be
registered
and
then
we
go
to
the
next,
create
a
concept
slide
Sean.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
more
detailed.
This
is
actually
segmenting
it
into
different
categories.
D
Like
map
providers
and
data
visual
I,
say:
maybe
you
want
to
screen
this
one.
It's
very
hard
to
see.
Yeah.
B
D
D
B
E
A
B
A
What
what
it
mentioned
so
I
know
I
updated.
This
is
a
while
back
the
premium
members
and,
of
course,
the
company
you
can
tell
at
least
be
updated
now.
So
that's
the
only
area
where
we
had
UCF
members
I
think
the
last
time
we
updated
this
was
in
April
or
May,
but
the
rest
of
it
is
placeholder
data
and
it
can
be
much
like
I
mean
upset.
Anyone
can
submit
to
have
their
information
added
it's
stored
in
our
GitHub
on
the
UCF
GitHub.
A
A
C
Just
for
the
record
I
mean
because
we
might
be
confusing
things
here,
so
this
was
an
initiative
if
I
recall
Travis,
but
from
back
on
the
days
we
thought
it
could
be
useful.
One
of
the
ideas
of
the
foundation
was
to
also
kind
of
like
show
to
the
world.
I
mean
the
ecosystem
of
projects
that
exist,
because
we
thought
you
know
it
was
very
fragmented
ecosystem
and
it
wasn't
clear
what
was
out
there,
but
it
was
actually
nothing
related
to
UCF
I
mean
like
UCF
projects
will
be
just
part
of
it,
like
any
other
projects.
C
That's
the
goal
of
this
landscape
was
nothing
around
showcasing,
UCF
dollar
contributors
or
anything
like
that.
It
was
the
entire
industry
and
I
think
you
know
like
that
was
actually
by
taking
these
from
other
color
foundations
on
the
Linux
Foundation.
That's
actually
one
of
the
typical
projects
that
the
fund,
these
foundations
do,
which
is
try
to
provide
a
comprehensive
picture
So
for
anybody
that
comes
to
geospatial
new.
They
know
what
exists
and
and
now
so
I
don't
think
we
should
mix
this
up
with
what
Eve
is
saying
or
anything
around.
E
D
So
I
I
actually
wasn't
aware
that
this
page
was
live,
but
I
think
that
something
similar
to
this
shows
the
the
companies
that
are
actually
in
these
kievs
and
then
trying
to
actively
promote
and
grow
that.
But
you
know
focused
on
on
on
people
who
are
actually
involved
with
UCF
is
what
it
kind
of
what
I
had
in
mind
here
and
then,
if
we
go
continue
to
next
slide
next
one
here
so
then
the
other
thing
we
discussed
also
in
the
board
meeting,
was
so.
D
Can
we
promote
UCF
in
meetups
conferences
and
so
on,
and
so
the
idea
the
action
here
would
be
to
my
one.
Action
could
be
to
prepare
UCF
approved,
quote
unquote,
slides
as
a
resource
I
made
an
attempt.
I
had
a
talk
at
the
Kronos
standardization
committee
meet
up
last
week,
so
I
I've
included
the
link
here.
We've
also
copied
in
some,
so
this
was
kind
of
non-usecf
approved,
but
I
did
quite
a
bit
of
promotion
for
the
for
the
UCF,
and
you
know
if
we
continue
to
slides,
we
can
see
some
of
those.
D
So
yeah
I,
you
know
I
talked
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
how
why
this
GL
moved
open
governance-
and
you
know
we
chose
the
urban
Computing
foundation
and
you
know
the
advantages
of
it
were
not
controlled
by
any
specific
company
projects.
We
continue
to
remain
out,
then
anyone
is
welcome
to
use
contributing
influence.
We
have
a
legal
framework,
that's
designed
to
support
users
rather
than
owners,
and
if
we
go
on
then
you
know
we
can
then
describe
our
top
level
projects
we
can
show
like.
D
You
know
what
the
the
sweep
and
scope
of
it
and
then
next
one
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
governance
structure.
So
people
understand
how
we're
kind
of
running
this
that
it's
you
know,
because
what
does
it
mean
to
be
open
governance
and
then
the
next
one
you
know
I
tried
to
also
make
a
call.
You
know
you
can
contribute
projects,
you
have
an
open
source
project
that
has
something
related
to
this.
Are
you
interested
in
moving
to
open
governance?
Do
you
see
any
synergies?
D
You
know,
please
make
a
contribution,
proposals
to
kind
of
in
an
open
call
to
to
join
right,
again,
very
inclusive,
and
then
the
final
one
you
know
was
just
you
know,
a
call
to
join
and
it
was
really
based
on
this.
This
girlfriend
we
had
in
the
board
meeting
it's
open
to
everyone.
Membership
is
not
required.
You
can
engage
as
a
member
as
a
contributor
as
a
user
as
a
supplier,
so
you
know
we
could
break
out
these.
Some
of
these
slides,
you
know
get
someone
from.
D
Maybe
we
need
to
have
you
know
some
I
know
get
a
little
fond
of
having
starting
off
with
some
Anti-Trust
message
or
something.
So
maybe
we
we
had
something
like
that.
So
you
know
it's
legally
good
and
then
you
know
we
could
have
like
just
a
set
of
slides
that
people
there.
Anyone
who
uses
this
and
wants
to
promote
it
can
you
ask
and
he's
invited
to
a
conference,
can
can
throw
in
a
couple
of
slides
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
there
was
a
fair
bit
of
Interest
around
this.
D
So
a
lot
of
people
are
doing
open
source,
but
very
few
people
are
doing
up
in
governance
and
I
I
had
to
go
back
to
the
main
presentation.
So
if
we
continue
down
the
line,
this
was
Kepler
copied
slides
next,
so
the
can
you
continue,
so
this
was
yeah.
These
are
the
things
we
want
to
do.
I
think
here
that
we
agreed
that
we
want
to
do
in
this
Tech.
We
want
to
promote
collaboration
next
and
invite
users.
E
D
So
what
have
we
done
right
in
terms
of
inviting
new
members?
Well,
the
important
really
important
thing
was
to
get
the
new
pricing
tier
in
place.
It
turned
out
to
be
7K
for
small
companies,
it
might
cater
Linux,
Foundation,
2kg
UCF,
some
folded
is
in
the
process
of
joining,
and
you
know
we
also
had
the
budget
where
we,
you
know
getting
more
clarity,
and
with
these
two
pieces
in
place,
I
feel
that
I
can
now
go
out.
Incredibly,
you
know
ask
other
companies
so
I'm
working
with
Nvidia.
You
know
we
have
engagement
with
Google.
D
We
have
engagement
with
history.
Now
I
can
actually
go
to
these.
It's
kind
of
weird
to
go
to
these
people
if
unfolded
is
not
a
member,
you
know
and
we
don't
have
a
clear
story
around
the
you
know
the
the
budget
and
so
on.
So
we,
you
know
I,
think,
there's
enablers
that
have
been
done
that
are
important
and
then
yeah.
You
know
how
do
we
take
it
further?
How
do
we
make
the
membership
appealing,
so
we
need
to
clearly
articulate
to
these
companies.
What
is
the
UCF
about?
D
What
are
you
buying
into
show
the
landscape,
as
we
discussed,
you
know
show
that
it's
a
big
deal,
the
budget.
You
know
what
do
I
get
from
my
money.
How
is
it
managed
and
spent?
And
then
you
know,
as
I've
started,
to
talk
to
various
companies
out
there
and
I'm
kind
of
you
know.
Lobbying
I
mean
maybe
let's
say
yes
reaching
out
to
somebody
special
companies
and
telling
that
has
have
open
source
projects
and
saying
have
you
considered
moving
to
UCF?
D
Have
you
you
know
considered
contributing
your
project
because
you
know
if
you
already
made
it
open
sourced
right
and
you
kind
of
like
in
a
marginal
place,
but
if
you
make
it
open
governance
and
join
forces
with
this
GL
and
we
invest
a
little
bit
in
interoperability,
your
project
becomes,
you
know
much
much
stronger
and
and
what
I
see
is
that?
And
this
is
the
same-
you
know
it
was
a
long
journey,
a
two
bird
to
go
for
all
of
these
steps.
D
Companies
are
very
uncertain
about
open
source
and
open
governance,
and
they
don't
really
understand
it's
easy
to
to
to
get
very
confused
when
you're
in
a
company
and
and
and
trying
to
understand
what
are
the
values
and
really
helping
these
companies.
You
know
clearly
articulate
these
these
values
and
and
understanding
that
there
is
actually
very
little
downside
and
a
very
big
upside
is
something
that
we
can.
You
know
help
help
with.
D
So
you
know
it's
both
reaching
out
and
trying
to
get
people
to
become
members,
but
also
reaching
out
and
trying
to
get
people
to
actually
contribute
and
join,
join.
The
bandwagon
I
think
I
had
one
more
slide
when
I
was
yours,
so
yeah
that
that
was
the
thinking
and
I
think
that
was
just
before
this
meeting
and
I
think
it
was
pretty
aligned
with
with
kind
of
what
we
agreed.
E
I
think
it's
great
I
think
yeah
this,
coupled
with
maybe
kind
of
realigning
some
of
the
the
you
know
with
the
those
top
level
projects
I
like
the
open
openness
in
terms
of
kind
of
like
membership
and
projects
as
well.
I
wonder
if
there
could
be
a
stronger
appeal
or
path
for
for
lack
of
a
better
term
kind
of
Grassroots,
open
source
contributions.
E
You
know-
and
maybe
that's
not
necessarily
the
I-
think
it's
important.
Maybe
the
the
UCF
tack
is
better
focused
on
kind
of
like
corporate
and
Company.
You
know
memberships
engagements
and
that's
you
know,
setting
up
the
structure
for
that,
but
I
think
we
shouldn't
also
lose
sight
of.
E
D
Yeah
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
point.
I.
You
know
there
are
a
number
of
really
brilliant.
You
know
geospatial,
you
know
webgl
Engineers
around
the
world
that
are
very
interested
in
open
source
and
are
doing
things
and
you
know,
as
I
engage
with
them.
I
try
to
make
it
appealing
for
them
to
join
and-
and
you
know
like
saying,
if
you're
going
to
develop
these
things,
why
don't
develop
them
as
part
of
this,
and
you
know
a
stronger,
a
stronger
message
there.
D
A
Just
wanted
to
share
I
put
a
few
links
in
the
chat.
Those
are
here
at
the
board
as
well.
A
So
these
are
a
few
ways
that
we
can
do
kind
of
what
it
was
mentioning
earlier
started,
taking
a
little
while
to
find
the
links
a
few
ways,
we
can
promote
companies
that
are
either
vendors
of
a
product
that
uses
like
the
open
source
technologies
that
we
have
or
to
say
that
hey
I'm,
a
user
of
this
there
is
a
much
more
like
heavyweight
way
to
do
this,
which
is
a
conformance
program,
but
that
does
require
a
lot
more
upfront
effort.
So
this
is
something
that
we
can.
You
know.
A
I
can
work
with
our
creative
Services
team
to
build
out
with
that
little
bit
of
budget.
We
have
to
say,
can
you
add
a
page
for
me
like
this
I
need
volunteers
in
the
TAC
to
help
vet
them.
So
if
a
request
comes
in,
you
know
we
have
like,
we
can
write
out
a
little
process
for
here's,
how
we
say
that
way:
I
thought
someone
can
just
come
in
and
say:
hey
my
project
is
Bob.
Can
you
just
add
it
to
the
list?
We
have
someone
to
at
least
say?
A
Yes,
that's
real,
and
we
want
to
add
this
here,
but
this
is.
These
are
a
few
ways
that
we
a
few
options
we
can
use
to
say
like
we
want
to
have
a
user
ecosystem
listed
or
we
want
to
have
a
vendor
directory
or
something
like
that.
A
Yeah
and
hopefully,
I
mean
I
I'll,
our
careers
versus
team
is
pretty
flexible
on
budget,
so
if
it
takes
more
than
the
amount,
we
have
they'll
probably
be
helpful
with
that
to
build
it
out
for
us
and
it's
something
you
like
so
edx
Foundry
on
that
website,
they're
still
kind
of
building,
all
of
that
out,
I
talked
to
their
program
manager
a
few
weeks
back
so
I'm
waiting
for
them
to
kind
of
finish
it
to
get
there
like
they
don't
quite
have
a
process
yet
for
how
they
say.
A
Yes,
you
are,
you
know
what
your
previous
ecosystem
user
or
yes,
we
know
that
you're,
a
real
vetted
end
user,
so
I'm
kind
of
waiting
to
see
what
for
their
information,
but
we
can
also
get
started
on
something
similar
and
it's
a
way
to,
as
IB
said,
have
a
more
inclusive
way
for
people
to
list
their
logos
in
their
site.
To
say:
hey
like
this
is
until
when
you're
pursuing
members,
they
see
the
value
of
look
at
all
these
companies
who
are
involved
I
see
the
value
in
promoting
this.
D
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
I
think
this
would
be
perfect
right.
This
is
exactly
what
we
need
and
and
if
the
UCF
can
help
build
out
those
web
pages.
That
would
be
amazing,
because,
right
now
on
the
bistro
page,
where
we've
started,
adding
like
a
few
company
names
and
so
on
right,
so
we're
kind
of
duplicating
it,
and
so,
if
we
have
like
the
Israel
can
refer
back
to
the
UCF
ecosystem,
you
know
that'd
be
great.
C
Okay,
because
I
I
have
to
unfortunately
run
accessories.
That
was
only
got
a
little
bit
of
time
in
there.
If
you
guys
can
share.
Also
this
presentation,
if
you
don't
mind
you
know
just
like
and
also
have
to
think
a
little
bit
more
about
it,
but
obviously
I
mean
we
will
be
interested
in
joining
I
find.
C
You
know,
like
Gail
with
strange
that
we
have
to
also
put
you
on
5000
into
the
English
Foundation
full
honest,
because
showing
that
you
know
the
foundation,
then
itself
is
also
a
color
paint
today
in
this
Foundation,
but
you
and
I
can
talk
about
that
separately.
So
you
know
for
car
to
to
join
on
the
process
too.
Okay,
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
you
guys
putting
all
this
together.
B
I
have
a
more
kind
of
more
real
suggested.
Question
is
I.
Think
most
of
most
of
us
probably
are
wondering
about
this.
B
When
you
look
at
the
budget
and
let's
say
that
we
invite
two
more
members
to
the
to
be
the
to
join
UCF
and
we'll
have
a
surplus.
Let's
say
like
about
ten
thousand
dollars
out
of
the
budget
this
year
and
if
we
decided,
if
we
as
a
tech,
saying
that
hey
we
have
this
project,
we
want
to
find
it.
How
can
we
make
the
process
of
getting
approved,
or
is
it
even
possible
to
bring
this
up
so
Sean.
A
That's
actually
that's
part
of
your
role
is
the
tech
chair
as
the
liaison
between
the
attack
and
the
governing
board.
Part
of
your
role
is
developing
those
proposals.
So
if
the
attack
has
a
budgetary
asked
to
go
to
the
board
and
say
Here's
the
proposal,
the
tax
is
requesting
funding
for
this
item.
So,
whether
whatever
the
amount
of
funding
you'd
want
to
provide
to
a
project,
it
would
be
it's
whoever
the
top,
whether
it's
you
or
a
different
member
of
the
tax
attack
chair
then
presents
that
makes
that
proposal.
B
Yes,
I
understand
that
I
think
just
practice
practically.
If
you
think
about
it,
the
the
companies
on
the
board
are
going
to
be
we're
running
here
and
me.
Well,
the
RF
being
part
of
this
decision
making
as
well.
A
Not
at
all,
that's
completely
up
to
the
governing
board,
so
the
governing
board
makes
those
budget
decisions.
The
ilf
is
not
involved
in
those
decisions
we
were
here
to
help
facilitate.
You
know,
I
create
the
slides
for
you
and
you
know,
put
up
the
legal
things
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
in
the
kind
of
the
up
there.
But
it's
the
votes
are
for
the
opening,
oh
for
the
governing
board.
A
So
you
have
a
vote
on
that
as
a
tax
chair,
the
Premier
members
and
then
when
we
have
General
members,
General
member
representatives
and
those
votes
come
from
from
that
space.
So
if
there
is
more
a
surplus
of
funding
for
the
for
the
project
and
there's
something
attack
wants
to
ask,
then
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
you
know
you
presenting
that
to
the
tech
into
the
governing
board
and
the
governing
board
voting
on
it.
B
Good,
thank
you
it's
good
to
know.
So
we
can,
you
know
from
the
tech,
I
think
getting
the
message
out
that
once
we
do
have
a
surplus
of
finding,
we
can
start
a
I
think
the
most
important
interested
from
the
attack
is
whether
they
can
start
collaborating
and
found
a
project.
So
yeah,
that's
a
good
angle.
D
B
A
E
I
think
maybe
you
know
more
broadly
taking
some
of
this,
this
sort
of
philosophy
and
stuff
and
kind
of
updating
the
the
generals
kind
of
UCF
landing
page
with
with
some
of
this
information.
It
could
be
another
good
next
step
or
another
suggestion,
probably
for
maybe
a
a
next
attack
meeting
agenda
item
could
be
maybe
digging
into
as
a
group
sort
of
like
refactoring
the
TAC
membership
to
better
align
with
kind
of
the
the
top
level
projects.
Just
a
suggestion.
B
D
B
Yep
I
will
list
that
as
to
do
for
me.
Okay,.
D
B
B
Yeah
so
I
think
we
made
good
progress.
Thank
you
guys
for
coming
and
well.
This
style
will
be
shared
and
we
will
see
you
guys
next
meeting.
Thank
you.
Everyone.