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C
B
B
B
D
C
D
So
cool-
and
I
I
I
I
know-
I've
been
reaching
out
to
javascripters
who
do
embedded
stuff
trying
to
get
them
to
come
and
give
it
a
look.
You
know,
give
us
some
input
and
I've
gotten
some
some
help,
but
not
a
not
a
ton.
I
wonder
if
there's
anyone
and
it's
unfortunate
that
everyone's
at
tc39
today,
because
I
wonder
if
we
could
reach
out
to
them
and
say
hey,
could
someone
some
of
y'all
take
a
look
at
this.
D
B
B
E
E
A
A
E
B
Cool,
I
mean
one
of
the
other
standards
related
kind
of
announcements,
our
colleague
brian
cardell's,
written
up
a
great
blog
post
to
help
those
who
may
not
be
familiar
with
sometimes
arcane
voting
processes
within
some
of
our
institutions,
like
the
w3c,
has
written
a
wonderful
post
about
that
on
his
blog,
and
you
are
encouraged
to
check
that
out
if
you've
ever
been
interested
or
confused
by
by
ranked
choice,
voting
and
and
similar
things.
That's
that's
a
great
post,
other
standards,
specific
news.
E
F
E
F
E
I
once
she
was
elected.
I
just
sent
her
an
introductory
email
to
all
of
us
at
the
foundation
who
would
love
to
work
with
her
blog,
occasionally
on
giving
us
updates
on
what's
happening
with
tag
and
as
well
as
you
know,
we're
supporting
her
with
her
travel
funding
when
we're
able
to
travel
so
made
sure
she
was
connected
there
as
well,
but
she'd
be
a
great
speaker
as
well.
At
the
conference.
B
Neither
am
I
sorry
brian
hang
tight
when
joe
gets
back,
we'll
get
you
promoted,
yeah
no
kidding.
It
is
one
of
those
days
so
great
idea.
We
should
definitely
have
her
leia
come
to
some
of
these
meetings,
but
also
you
know,
she'd
be
great.
To
have
speak
to
at
the
at.
The
conference
conference
is
on
the
9th
of
june
2021
and
we
are
accepting
our
our
call
for
speakers.
Right
now
is
open
through,
I
think
february,
the
9th
and
then
we'll
be
reviewing
those.
B
So
we
really
hope
to
have
a
lot
of
input
from
projects
and
communities
like
you,
so
please
do
submit
and
sign
up.
Of
course,
it's
going
to
be
remote
and
one
day
you'll
be
able
to
kind
of
watch
content
after
it
premieres
on
demand,
so
we're
kind
of
really
going
to
have
fun
with
this
format.
I
think
all
right,
I
think
that's
it
for
announcements,
yep
all
right.
B
We
have
also
added
a
whole
bunch
of
other
things
that
we
want
to
learn
from
the
tscs.
As
we've
kind
of
you
know,
you
know
found
more
things
that
we
want
to
talk
to
them
about,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
want
to
focus
first
on
the
impact
and
growth
projects
and
then
move
on
down
through
some
of
the
at-large
projects,
so
we're
still
needing
to
get
most
of
these
scheduled,
but
hopefully
we'll
get
those
done
pretty
quick
and
we'll
be
able
to
report
back
some
some
info.
D
C
No,
I
I
don't
have
anything
okay,
I
was.
I
was
listening
to
the
conversation
about
leah
and
I
agree
that
sounds
like
a
good
idea.
I
think
robin
was
saying
that
she
sent
her.
Something
already
seems
great,
so
she
won't
be
there
there's
a
delay.
I
think
this
is
the
first
face-to-face
meme,
where
they're
doing
handoff.
C
F
F
F
Yeah,
just
yeah
just
documenting
what
technologies
people
you
I
mean
just
you
know
doc,
documenting
the
dependencies
to
make
sure
we
know
what
you
know.
Our
our
open
source
developers
actually
pay
attention
to
care
about,
besides
obviously
javascript
itself,
but
it
would
be
it'd
certainly
be
interesting
to
know
what
other
what
the
dependencies
are,
and
you
know
try
to
like.
We
talked
about
on
the
call
rationalize
them
in
terms
of
hey.
That's
you
know
that
sort
of
ten-year-old
state
of
the
art
everybody
else's
or
the
the
mainstream
is
using.
F
F
D
E
One
yeah
joe
and
I
just
talked
about
you
know
we
have
every
other
week
from
our
cpc
meetings,
we're
doing
deep
dive
sessions.
Today
we
did
one
on
diversity
and
inclusion,
but
we're
talking
about
doing
one
on
technical
strategy
and
defining
that
from
the
cpc.
So
I
think
this
do
you
I
mean
joe.
I
don't
you
think
it
makes
sense
to
kind
of
wrap
that
into
it.
Yeah.
B
I
wonder
if
this
is
something
that
we
could
fund
out
of
unused
travel
fund
budget.
For
example,
like
we
talked
about
the
outreachy
internship
program
on
a
working
group
call
earlier,
we
could
perhaps
you
know,
get
because
it's
a
it's
really
data
gathering
right
as
an
exercise
here,
and
it's
going
to
take
time
dedicated
time
to
to
pull
all
that
info.
F
F
I
mean,
obviously
we
don't
know
what
level
of
skill
some
of
these
people
are,
but
having
a
positive
thing
to
say,
here's
a
sort
of
a
meta
project
that
you
know
I
mean
some
of
the
you
know
some
of
this
just
kind
of
documenting
the
dependencies
is
not
you
know,
you
don't
need
a
phd
in
computer
science,
that
kind
of
stuff
right,
but
it
would
help
people
you
know,
would
be
a
way.
I
think
it
would
be
a
positive
way
to
get
people
engaged
in
the
community
and
figure
out
what
you
know.
C
F
B
I
think
we'd
need
to
put
like
a
project
proposal
together,
so
that
whomever
could
kind
of
understand
like
what
we're
looking
for
what
the
outcome
and
goals
would
be
and
then
and
probably
go
from
there.
That
seems
like
an
easy
way
to
potentially
action
that
and
either
get
you
know
just
an
interested
person
from
the
community
or
perhaps
you
know,
paid
pay
someone
just
to
execute
that
it
seems
like
a.
F
It
either
is
a
way
of
you
know,
helping
socialize
new
people
into
the
community
or
somebody
who
is
you
know
well
known
to
be
highly
skilled
but
finds
themselves
between
jobs
or
something
you
know
yeah.
I
could.
I
could
anyway
see
anyway.
I
I
think
that
idea
is
worth
worth
kind
of
fleshing
out
and
pursuing
and
seeing
if
we
can
do
anything
with
it.
E
C
B
F
F
C
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
said
is
that
we're
doing
some
like
actual
going
and
talking
to
people,
and
that
would
be
a
good
time
to
like
just
bring
it
up
like
in
in
either
case.
Like
a
thank
you
for
your
response,
if
you
responded
and
b,
can
you
respond
or
try
to
respond?
If
you.
E
E
Michael
dawson
who's,
our
board
rep,
who
represents
the
projects,
is
going
to
come
along
as
well,
and
then
we're
just
going
to
hit
probably
a
couple
of
other
key
areas
as
well,
but
we'll
be
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
going
out
and
scheduling
those
now,
so
maybe
we
should
take
a
revisit
on
the
deck.
Maybe
if
we
have
the
survey
feeding
in
right
before
meetings
too
gives
them
a
little
unofficial
deadline
in
their
head,
maybe
tie
it
all
together.
E
B
B
I
would
just
sort
of
understand
that
that's
a
decent
percentage
of
of
projects
that
are
likely
very
active
and
I
don't
because
I
don't
recall
who
who
has
responded,
but
you
know
if
we
think
about
it.
We
have
six
impact
projects
and
six
growth
projects,
so
that's
like
almost
50
percent
of
the
most
active
projects.
So
you
know
we
have
a
small
audience
for
this
survey.
B
F
So
one
more
thought
on
that.
I
wonder
if,
like
giving
some
for
instances
like
the
you
know
the
tc39
agenda
that
that
was
shared
earlier
today,
just
say
you
know,
are
you?
Are
you
excited
about
any
of
these?
You
know
early
stage
features
in
in
you
know.
Would
would
your
project
really
benefit
from
you
know
some
some
of
those
anyway,
just
maybe
making
a
little
more
concrete
of
the
kinds
of
things
the
foundation
collectively
could
potentially
get
behind
either
at
tc39,
tz53
waluigi.
D
B
A
C
B
B
C
B
Yeah,
I
don't
think
we
should
close
it,
but
from
others
in
the
group
it
didn't
seem
like
they
were
for
it
if
it
fits
that
strategy
and
that's
sort
of
the
question
so
that
the
strategy
question
has
to
be.
I
think
answered
before
the
team
is
gonna
move
forward
with
verve
on
this
particular
issue.
So
maybe
we
back,
maybe
we
can
add,
like
a
backlog
label
or
something
just
to
so.
B
B
B
Seth
mary
seth
geez
scott,
my
apologies
seth
from
joint
development
foundation,
and
it
was
really
fascinating
presentation.
We
got
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
ask
them
questions,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
said
we
wanted
to
do
was
maybe
spend
some
time
reflecting
on
what
we
learned
about
that
program
and
and
how
or
whether
we
want
to
move
in
a
direction
or
encourage
our
projects
to
move
in
direction.
What
can
we
can?
We
do.
B
F
F
Well,
the
context
is
antitrust.
Let
me
just
say
that
you
know
I'm
getting
more
and
more
scared
about.
You
know
antitrust
as
as
a
as
a
you
know,
impediment
to
industry
collaboration,
because
you
know,
obviously
you
know
some.
Some
of
the
big
companies
have
gotten
to
some
critical
mass.
That
is
starting
to
really.
You
know,
create
political
problems
around
the
world
and
what
david
said
was
that
standards
work
is
sort
of
intrinsically
kind
of
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
know.
F
Anti-Trust
laws
are
are
concerned
about
because
they're
you
know,
competitors
sitting
down
and
collaborating
with
one
another
and
law.
Antitrust
law
gives
standards
making
a
pass,
because
you
know
it
meets
various
criteria
like
you
know,
transparency
and
and
and
operating
by
a
due
process.
You
know
so
a
lot
of
you
know
our
our
projects.
I
get
the
impression
they're
kind
of
like
get.
F
B
B
I
think
that
that's
not
going
to
be
super
common
and
the
more
common
thing
might
be
that
some
group
of
individuals
from
across
our
javascript
projects,
work
together
on
an
api
or
on
a
language
feature
on.
You
know
some
such
thing
that
they
want
to
see
advanced
in
the
in
the
web
platform,
or,
I
suppose,
not
in
the
web
platform,
where
maybe
maybe
somewhere
else
too,
and
so
I
wonder
how
much
we
want
to
really
impress
more
formal
process
on
individual
projects
versus
more
formal
process
on
cross
project
like
activity.
F
F
It's
just
you
know
they
could
they
could,
but
anybody
any
project
who
it's
really
getting
some
industry
traction
that
possibly
steps
on
some
toes
out
there
they're
going
to
wish
they
might
wish
in
a
year
or
so
when
the
you
know,
eu
or
the
british
or
american
government
starts-
starts
looking
closely
at
them
that
they
had
a
more
formal
process
in
place.
But
obviously
it's
just
pure
incubation
and
it's
a
bunch
of
independent
people
yeah.
F
They
don't
need
to
worry
about
it,
but
if
you've
got
one
of
the
you
know,
you've
got
a
couple
of
the
gorillas
in
the
room
I
mean
their
lawyers
will
probably
press
them
for
for
for
process,
but
you
know
just
helping
people
I
mean
I
know
from
working
at
big
big
companies
that
yeah
people
want
to
kind
of
fly
under
their
lawyer's
radar,
but
on
the
other
hand,
if
they
do
stuff
that
gets
too
popular
and
steps
on
some
toes
out
there
it
could.
They
could
regret
that.
F
B
B
Rigorous,
I
suppose
you
know,
structure
and
and
also
encouraging
them
to
take
more
seriously
like
an
evaluation
of
like
who's
using
their
project
and
that
kind
of
thing
which
I
think
a
lot
of
our
projects
have
historically
said.
Well,
you
know
we
just
are
making
this
for
us
and
we
hope
other
people
find
it
useful
too,
and
we're
not
really
worried
too
much
about
who
else
is
using
it.
F
I
think
put
your
finger
on
it
exactly
once
people
start
talking
about
your
project
or
your
library,
whatever,
as
a
as
a
de
facto
standard,
you
kind
of
that.
You
know
that's
a
big
red
flag
that
you
need
to
start
worrying
about
some
government
or
some.
You
know
you
I
mean
brian
knows.
You
know
how
this
is
going
in
w3c,
where
the
the
advertising
community
is.
Is
you
know
trying
to
trying
to?
You
know,
attack
google?
F
You
know,
I
won't
won't
say
they
don't
necessarily
deserve
it,
but
you
know
when
things
start
getting
treated
as
as
de
facto
standards,
or
you
know
the
code
equivalent.
Whatever
you
know
the
thing
that
everybody
uses
without
thinking
about
it
very
hard,
then
you've
got
to
worry
about
making
sure
that
you're
covered.
If
the
lawyers
some
hostile
lawyers
notice,
you.
E
I
also
feel
like
maybe
our
projects,
the
perception
of
standards
have
not
kept
up
with
reality
right
on
the
more
agile
ways
of
approaching
it
through
the
community
spec
program
or
other
agile
community
processes
at
standard
setting
organizations,
so
probably
our
responsibility
to
help
them
along
there,
too.
That's
a
very
good
point.
C
B
B
Exactly
how
or
whether
even
we
collaborate
with
the
jdf
from
opengs
foundation,
I
think,
does
depend
significantly
on
on
which
strategic
direction
we
choose
to
invest
in
in
the
next
year.
I
could
see
the
polyfills
home
for
polyfills
being
something
that
would
allow
us
to
to
do
that.
For
example,
if
we
wanted
to
go
that
route,
but
perhaps
another
another
strategic
direction
would
would
take
us
some
place
place
else.