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A
All
right
so
welcome
to
our
standards
working
group
meeting.
We
did
not
have
a
meeting
two
weeks
ago
because
we
were
in
conflict
with
the
working
meeting
of
the
cpc
and
also
we
had
some
we've
been
gathering
a
lot
of
data
from
our
projects
and
that
extra
two
weeks
gave
us
more
time
to
talk
with
more
people,
so
we'll
be
reporting
on
that
today.
But
before
we
get
started,
let
me
ask
if
we
have
any
announcements
to
share
any
upcoming
tc39
meetings.
For
example,
during
the
first
week
of
march.
A
E
Yeah
I'll
put
the
agenda
link
in
there,
but
either
march
9th
and
10th
we're
doing
this
sort
of
weird
alternative
meeting
schedule
starting
this
year.
So
there's
more
meetings,
but
some
of
them
are
shorter.
E
As
far
as
I
mean,
the
agenda
tends
to
like
the
agenda
deadline
is
in
five
days,
and
so
it
things
tend
to
cram
up
last
minute
on
it.
So
it's
probably
best
to
take
another
look
at
it.
Six
days
from
now,
the
some
there's
like
a
few
needs
consensus,
pr's
and
stuff,
but
the
main
stuff,
that's
interesting.
One
of
them
is
an
alias
someone.
Matthias
wants
to
add
promise.any
settled
as
an
alias
for
promise.race.
E
So
there's
gonna
be
some
discussion
about
that,
and
then
some
of
the
bigger
things
is
there's
an
update
about
top
level
await
and
it's
progress
to
stage
four
and
then
a
really
big
one
is
temporal.
It's
up
there
for
stage
three.
It's
got
a
45
minute
time
box,
which
seems
very
ambitious,
but
it's
a
very
large
proposal.
E
So
if
you
have
thoughts,
feel
free
to
review
and
then
there's
also
a
resizable
array
buffer
for
stage
three,
but
that
I
expect
that
unless
you're
doing
arcane
things
with
typed
arrays
and
array
buffers,
you
won't
pay
attention
to
that
and
there's
currently
a
thing
up
for
stage
two
and
for
stage
one
and
there's
a
longer
discussion
about
the
pipeline
operator
and
things
like
that.
So
great,
I
don't.
A
Know
if
anyone
has
opinions
well,
thank
you
so
much
jordan.
I
hope
it
is
a
productive
and
enjoyable
two
days
of
two
days
of
tc39
meetings,
which
is
a
weird
thing
to
say
two
days
cool,
let's
see.
A
Similarly,
the
wp3c
has,
I
don't
think
they've
announced
the
dates
for
like
their
their
spring
and
ac
meetings,
but
the
ceo,
jeff
jaffe
has
been
doing
these
interesting
community
like
office
hours
calls,
and
so,
if
you
were
interested
in
meeting
up
with
folks
different
members
and
also
the
the
management
team
at
the
w3c
they're
doing
these
cool
office
hours,
and
let
us
know
we
can
let
you
know
when
the
next
one
is
happening.
F
F
A
A
Okay,
cool
cool
web
components,
w3c
javascript
on
that
kind
of
line
the
foundation
is
doing
a
like
a
ama
panel
for
like
javascript
trends,
we've
invited
a
couple
of
different
folks
from
the
community
to
follow
up
on
this
thing.
We've
been
doing
the
last
couple
years
where
we
get
folks
talking
about
sort
of
like
future
trends
and
sort
of
things
they're
imagining
for
2021.
It's
always
an
interesting
conversation.
A
So
welcome
your
your
attendance
or
your
questions
or
your
participation
on
that
panel
here
in
a
week.
I
think
it's
a
week
from
tomorrow
or
friday.
I
don't
remember
it's
it's
next
week
and
it's
on
the
public
calendar,
so
I
will
I'll
refresh
that
and
then
I
would
put
out
a
last
call
for
the
open
gis
world
cfps,
but
that
was
actually
yesterday.
A
So
I
hope
everyone
got
their
talks
in
on
time,
even
at
like
1201,
which
is
maybe
what
we
did
last
night
joe
to
get
your
your
conference
and
propose
talk,
proposals
in,
but
there's
still
time
to
participate
if
you're
interested
in
helping
select
talks.
So
if
you
want
to
get
involved
with
programming,
please
please
raise
your
hand.
We'd
love
to
have
you
about
help
us
evaluate
those
proposals,
anything
else
big
ticket-
I
guess
friday
is
a
board
meeting
and
we
usually
do
have
a
public
version
of
the
board
meeting.
A
That's
on
the
public
calendar
as
well.
Am
I
missing
anything
robin
that's
sort
of
like
super
timely?
A
I
think
you
got
it.
Okay,
cool
all
right,
cool!
There's!
Always
something
is
the
you
know
tldr,
it's
always
something
all
right.
I
think
we
have
just
a
few
items
on
the
agenda,
but
they
will
likely
merit
lots
of
interesting
discussion
today.
Maybe
we
can
start
with
the
shorter
item
that
brian
reminded
me
to
add
to
our
our
chat,
which
is
changing
the
w3c
and
ac
representative,
and
that
person
has
been
brian
cardell
for
us
for
for
some
time,
brian
yeah
and.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
service,
but
brian
is
also
the
ac
rep
for
igelia
his
new
company
and
is
interested
in
spreading
the
love
so
to
speak.
A
So
we're
there's
been
a
couple
of
folks
that
have
been
sort
of
watching
ac
chatter
and
watching
different
things
coming
out
of
the
w3c
like
mike
champion
who's
joined
us
and
then
myself
and
I
think,
a
handful
of
others.
So
we
we'd
like
to
to
pass
pass
the
the
roll
on
brian.
Do
you
want
to
sort
of
summarize
our
our
chatter
about
it.
F
Being
an
ac
rep
for
a
lot
of
companies
is
mostly
like
ceremonial
there's
very
few
that
are
like
actively
engaged,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
openjs
has
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
engaged
and
when
you
attend
meetings
you
represent.
If
you
vote,
you
represent
you,
you
have
access
to
a
bunch
of
other
sort
of
forums
because
you're
the
ac
rep,
and
so
we
reached
out
to
w3c
about
whether,
like
we
could
have
sort
of
a
a
joint
ac,
rep.
E
F
F
So
they
advised
us
that
we
can
like
create
and
sign
up
a
mailing
list,
but
it
seems
that
that
would
have
to
be
like
a
person
of
somebody
that
officially
spoke
for
the
mailing
list,
so
we
suggested
that
should
probably
be
jory
and
we
have
a
couple
of
things
to
work
out
there.
But
does
that
summarize
it
well?
So
the
the
idea
is
basically
this.
You
know.
F
Small
group
of
people
would
get
all
the
ac
updates
and
could
help
sort
of
spread
the
the
discussion
and
and
the
work
out
a
little
bit,
but
that
in
terms
of
having
a
representative,
it
would
be
jory
jory.
Did
I
summarize
that
okay
or.
A
We
thought
we
could
maybe
do
a
team
team
thing
and
just
spread
that
info
out
amongst
the
group,
but
when
it
comes
to
being
able
to,
they
want
to
be
able
to
identify
a
single
person
who
can
post
on
behalf
of
the
org
that
just
sort
of
is
the
way
their
model
is
set
up,
and
so
that
has
to
be,
and
they
you
know
that
has
to,
and
the
person
has
to
be
able
to
email
from
the
list
which
our
list
doesn't
allow
us
to
do.
So.
A
I,
for
example,
can't
email
from
standards
at
openjsf.org,
so
we
chattered
about
it
with
brian
being
the
again
representative
mike
champion
being
a
sort
of
an
emeritus
member
of
the
ac
which
they
grant
to
advisory
board
members
who've
served
long
and
honorably
they
mike
and
we
drew
straws,
and
I
got
the
shorter
long
one
depending
on
which
one
you
want
to
look
at.
F
Well,
I
think
the
key
thing
there
is
like
I
said
you
you,
you
gain
access
to
other
forums
as
well.
So
if
there's
an
ac
meeting
like
mike
can
already
attend
an
ac
meeting
and
I
can
already
attend
an
ac
meeting
and
like
historically
jory
has
been
ac
for
like
boku
in
the
past,
but
currently
she
can't
attend
an
ac
meeting.
I
think
so
that
sort
of
works
out
well
for
everybody,
that
everybody
can
have
full
participation.
A
A
We
could
absolutely
do
that
as
well,
but
just
interested
in
how
this
group
thinks
we
ought
to
proceed
with
this
particular
appointment,
because
it
it's
one
that,
for
just
historical
purposes,
hasn't
been
and
super
formally
handled.
When
the
js
foundation
had
a
rep,
it
was
more
of
like
a,
I
think
it
really
literally
was
who
draw
who
drew
the
shortest
straw,
because
there's
a
lot
of
email.
D
I
think
it's
an
important
role,
I'm
glad
that
it
still
will
be
a
team
effort.
We're
also
paid
up
with
our
dues.
I
think
that's.
What
we
noticed
as
well
when
mike
champion
joined,
is
that
we
had
not
paid
our
dues
when
it
transferred
from
js
to
open.js.
So
we're
all
up
to
date,
and
I
think
when
I
look
at
like
with
unicode-
and
I
can't
remember
what
else
didn't
you
all
self-nominate
or
when
miles
self-nominated
for
osi,
I
think,
is
how
that
maybe
worked.
A
I
think
that's
right,
yeah
and
then
emily
we
kind
of
did
that
too
for
unicode
as
well,
but
it
was
sort
of
like
a
of
course.
It's
emily,
of
course,.
C
Yeah
and
I'm
not
our
generic
rep
for
all
of
unicode,
specifically
only
for
the
message
for
what
working
group
grat
name
blocking
on
me
is
the
one
we
ended
up.
Picking
for
our
generic
unicode
rep.
A
A
So
we
could
just
you
know
we
could
do
open
a
nomination
and
then.
A
Assuming
say
that
keep
that
open
for
a
week,
because
it's
a
fairly
small
group
of
people
that,
but
that
would
give
us
enough
time
to
inform
the
cpc
and
then
do
a.
A
A
That's
funny
awesome
all
right.
Moving
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
listed
as
the
2020
strategy.
2021.,
excuse
me
strategic
planning
and
goal
setting
and
issue.
A
What
we
have
today
is
an
update
on
some
of
the
conversations
that
robin
and
myself
and
also
michael
dawson
have
been
having
with
different
projects
around
getting
their
input
and
their
preferences
for
those
six
possibilities
and
robin-
and
I
made
a
deck
mostly
robin
made
the
deck
it's
because
it's
pretty
and
let
me
just
open
it
up
so
that
we
have
this
easier
to
talk
about.
But
as
I
get
that
up,
we
shared
this
deck
with
and
kind
of
talked
through
sort
of
the
setup.
A
But
can
I
find
the
deck
there?
We
go
the
setup
of
like
you
know
just
context
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
then
got
them
to
sort
of
give
us
questions
and
feedback
on
which
of
the
approaches
they
liked
the
best.
So
let
me
share
my
screen
with
there's
my
keynote
share.
A
So
y'all
should
see
my
this
keynote
thing
see
pretty
deck
that
robin
made
and
we
walked
folks
through
like
who
we
are
setting
up
a
little
bit
of
like
you
know
what
is
the
work
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
then
we
jumped
right
into
those
six
ideas
that
we
summarized
in
our
notes
and
also
in
that
hackmd,
brainstorming,
doc,
and
so
just
to
recap.
A
Everyone,
because
y'all
have
probably
not
been
thinking
about
this
as
much
in
the
last
couple
weeks
and
with
the
six
ideas
were
focused
on
number
one,
like
filling
the
filling
the
cracks
creating
more
of
a
space
for
standardization
activities
to
arise
by
filling
gaps
between
different
and
specs
and
work
streams
that
are
happening
elsewhere.
So
this
is
where
like,
for
example,
brian's
other
issue
on
our
repo
around
the
the
polyfills
would
arise.
A
Idea
number
two
becoming
a
really
strong
and
and
safe
forum
for
discussing
proposal
needs
so
leaning
into
the
just
feedback
process
and
helping
shape
and
get
some
community
pre-consensus
and
that
sort
of
stuff
idea.
Number
three
was
really
keying
off
of
some
comments
that
jordan
had
made
around
just
sort
of
doing
audit
and
discovery
and
research
finding
those
common
things
that
we're
all
doing
we're
all
relying
on
and
finding
opportunities
for
improvement
in
those
spaces
idea.
A
Those
wins
and
then
number
five
was
that
we
create
a
forum
to
help
people
on
board
and
learn
about
standard
standardization
activities,
perhaps
curating
great
content,
many
of
much
of
which
already
exists
on
the
web
and
we've
got
lots
of
great
examples.
But
none
of
it
is
is
super
well
surfaced
in
one
spot.
We
could
do
that.
A
We
could
really
help
perhaps
create
more
and
diverse
and
inclusive
environments
and
working
groups,
because
we
we're
doing
that
mentorship
and
support
there
and
then
last
but
not
least,
the
no
jerks
plan,
which
is
where
we
would
perhaps
invest
our
time
and
energy
in
not
just
you
know,
supporting
people
who
want
to
work
on
standards,
but
also
to
help
them
like
what
their
dei
activities
internally
so
office
hours,
and
you
know,
feedback
and
training
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
So
those
were
our
six
things
and
obviously
in
sharing
those
with
the
projects,
we
went
into
further
depth
and
we
took
questions
along
the
way.
But
I
hope
that
that
quick
characterization,
you
know
accurately
reflects
y'all's
memory
as
well
about
what
we
did
and
why.
A
Cool,
so
all
right,
so
that's
what
we
shared,
and
then
we
got
some
feedback
about
what
was
what
was
good,
what
they,
what
people
liked?
A
A
We've
talked
to
a
couple
of
different
groups
in
amp,
we're
planning
to
talk
to
node,
probably
that
will
end
up
happening
in
chunks,
because
not
everybody
can
beat
it
a
single
time
and
we
still
need
to
get
input
from
jquery,
which
we
will
probably
do
this
coming
or
next
friday,
and
who
else
am
I
missing?
A
Webdriver
and
web
hint
are
were
also
ones
that
we
wanted
to
talk
to.
This
go
around.
A
Oh
electron,
that's
right
and
I'm
missing
their
tallies,
so
I
need
to
go
get
those.
Thank
you
yes,
so
basically,
this
was
like
a
here's.
Here's
the
thing
and
here's
the
here's,
the
here's
the
options
in
here
here.
What
what
do
you
think
and
by
the
end
of
it
most
folks
gave
some
kind
of
like
my
gut
take,
is
that
I
like
option
one
and
five
for
example,
and
so
we've
just
sort
of
like
recorded
that
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
sympathy
for
options.
A
Kind
community
helpful,
you
know
inclusive,
community
and
work,
but
also
a
lot
of
folks
liking,
option
number
two,
which
is
the
discussion
and
the
input
on
proposals
and
the
community
pre-consensus,
and
so
it's
still
early
to
say
that
we
have
clear
like
a
clear
preference,
but
this
is
sort
of
where
it's
trending
so
far,
based
on
who
we've
talked
to
we're.
Also
getting
some
interesting
notes-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
robin
if
you
want
to
speak
to
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
gotten
so
far
from
folks.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it's
interesting
on
on
number
two.
I'm
hearing
a
pattern
like
it
actually
is
sort
of
happening
on
some
level,
but
it's
only
happening
because
somebody
knows
somebody
who
knows
somebody.
So
it's
kind
of
like
who
you
know
it's
not,
and
it's
always
last
minute,
so
bringing
being
more
programmatic
about
it
and
transparent.
I
think,
will
help
we
had
one
comment.
I
thought
was
interesting,
saying:
hey
our
is
the
standards
group?
Are
you
working
on
just
momentum,
or
do
you
really
want
to
spin
something
up
and
get
something
going?
A
D
Yeah,
so
those
were
sort
of
my
big
takeaways
from
a
consistency
across
our
conversations
but
yeah,
I
think
definitely
to
the
on
number
five.
I
think
a
lot
of
demand
there's
they
may
have
people
in
their
community.
It
may
not
be
the
people
we
spoke
to,
but
just
sort
of
getting
that
pipeline
and
succession
planning
of
the
projects
for
people
who
are
interested,
I
think,
is
important.
A
You
know
that
that
in
getting
involved
in
these
groups
that
that
six
was
something
that
we
could
do
just
by
virtue
of
the
fact
that
you
know
we're,
we
are
awesome
people,
you
know
we,
we
we
try
and
behave
and
model
the
behavior
that
we
want
to
see
in
in
these
communities
which
I'm
sympathetic
to,
but
also
you
know,
I
think
it's
the
difference
between
saying
we're,
showing
up
and
we're
gonna.
A
A
Right
yeah
number
two
is
you
know
in
in
creating
healthy
spaces
for
productive
community
discussion.
You
know
that
sort
of
like
modeling
of
of
the
behavior
we
want
the
standards
behavior
we
want
to
see
in
the
world
is.
Is
there
hopefully
that's?
Well,
that's
the
goal
anyway.
That's
the
plan
and
yeah.
So
it's
some
of
the
the
early
pieces.
The
other
thing,
the
other
group
that
we
shared
this
with
actually
was
some
of
the
community
michael
champion
and
ryan.
A
Also,
we
all
did
joined
one
of
those
w3c
office
hours
that
I
mentioned
in
the
announcements
section
and
previewed
this,
and
just
let
them
know
what
we're
doing
and
a
lot
of
people
at
the
w3c
are
really
interested
in
in
number
one
and
seeing
how
we
can
help
with
number
one
they're,
also
interested
in
kind
of
a
sub
idea
of
number
five
that
brian
and
I
kind
of
talked
about
around
like
helping
people
on
board
more
effectively
and
more
in
a
more
supported
way
to
to
the
w3c.
A
So
you
know
it's
a
big
organization,
there's
a
lot
to
sort
of
grok
and
learn
in
terms
of
process
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
if
there
was
some
way
to
pair
a
new
w3c
participant
with
a
buddy
and
maybe
those
are
open,
jsf
buddies,
for
example,
you
know
we
can
help
people
like
on
board
a
little
bit,
and
so
that
was
another
like
thing
that
the
the
w
the
the
standards
group
thought.
Well,
that
would
be
really
helpful.
So
that's
cool
it's
cool
to
see
that
they
would
that
they
like
us.
A
F
I
think
that
that's
actually
really
important
because,
like
I
said
the
early
on
the
for
a
lot
of
companies,
the
ac
role,
rep
and
even
participation
is
like
a
lot
of.
It
is
ceremonial
like
if
you
look
at
the
ac
or
if
you
look
at
w3c
participation,
most
organizations
have
one
person
to
one
working
group
and
they're,
not
necessarily
active
they're,
just
following,
and
maybe
for
some
of
them-
that's
what
they
want.
F
But
in
a
lot
of
my
discussions,
like
people,
just
kind
of
don't
know
how
to
participate
and
how
to
engage
well
and
wind
up
sort
of
checking
out.
So
you
know
or
end
up
sort
of
you
know
doing
things
that
are
not
conducive
to
making
them
a
productive
member
of
participation
and
everything
so
yeah.
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
big
deal
like
I
feel,
like
everybody
could
use
a
sort
of
buddy
system
help
them
find,
find
their
way
and
participate.
A
Well,
I'm
curious
if
you
know,
as
in
so
far
as
like
this
is
tracking
with
some
of
the
projects
that
we're
getting
feedback
from,
have.
Has
anyone
here,
sort
of
and
also
kind
of
re-hearing
the
the
six
possibilities
again
after
a
few
weeks?
You
know
as
you're
thinking
on
any
of
these
changed.
Are
there
ones
that
you
know?
Should
we
do
a
quick
assessment
of
things
that
we're
perhaps
more
or
less
excited
about
just
in
our
group,
so
that
we
can
kind
of.
D
I
think
it's
a
good
question.
I
again
there's
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
w3c
in
that
ac
thread
to
work
with
us
and
I'm
like.
Oh
that's
great.
What
are
we
working
on?
You
know
there's
so
much
great
stuff,
so
it
would
be
good
to
start
to
start
thinking
about
where
we
want
to
or
where
we'd
like
to
focus.
G
A
I
did
find
the
feedback
from
the
w3c
list
super
helpful
because
it's
like
just
connecting,
I
mean
part
of
what
part
of
why
we're
here
is
right
to
like
make
the
threads
between
our
orgs
like
stronger
and
more
productive
right
and
to
hear
them
say:
oh
gosh
yeah.
This
would
be
really
helpful
if
y'all
could
help.
You
know
that's
phenomenal
in
my
opinion,
but
it's
also
got
to
work
for
our
project
communities
too.
A
A
So
dom
from
the
w3c
is
proposing
a
a
chat
next
week
and
I'll
share
details
in
the
standards
slack
channel
for
anybody
who
might
be
able
to
make
it,
but
this
would
just
sort
of
be
a
continuation
of
the
brainstorm,
chatter,
just
kind
of
get
to
know,
convo
that
we
started
at
the
ac
office
hours
if
y'all
would
be
interested
and
available
and
to
attend
and
sort
of
bring
perspective
from
the
openjs
foundation.
A
You
know
we'd
love
to
love,
to
have
lots
of
folks
thinking
about
it
to
robin's
point,
I
think,
finding
something
really
atomic
that
we
could
help
with
and
and
and
just
iterate
and
practice
with,
would
be
really
good,
especially
if
it
fits
within
one
of
our
buckets
like
bucket
five
or
bucket
six
or
something
for
two
any
of
the
buckets
I
like
them
all
so
like
I
couldn't.
This
is
a
bad
idea
for
me
to
vote,
because
I
would
vote
for
all
of
them.
A
A
So
we'll
continue
this
conversation
with
the
projects,
hopefully
by
our
next
meeting,
we
will
have
gathered
all
of
the
input
from
from
those
who
are
at
least
interested
in
providing
it.
Some
projects
are
not
not
as
interested
in
this
work
just
yet,
that's
totally
fine.
A
A
A
A
H
Oh
hi
jerry.
No,
I
think
the
the
call
dumb
is
organizing
next
week
is
more
w3c
centric
they're,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
deal
with
the
the
reality
that
a
lot
of
the
standards
work.
The
standards
are
basically
ratifying
work
that
happens
in
the
open
source
community,
but
that's
mostly
in
like
chromium,
especially
there's.
Another
call
that
I
think
you
schedule
you're
working
on
that,
I
think,
is
more.
H
You
know
our
six
points
that
we
want
to
get
engagement
from
some
of
these
w3c
people.
On
those
little
we
got
a
lot
of
res
good
response
from
the
reach
out.
We
did
saying
here
are
six,
you
know
strategic
goals
or
whatever
we're
calling
them
and
but
figuring
out.
What
exactly
different
people
want
to
talk
about
is
is
where
we
are
now.
A
Yes,
and
thank
you
I
did
quite,
I
did
cross
wires
on
the
two
and
that
that
conversation
was
so
fruitful
that
it
did
spark
a
couple
of
different
threads
and
so
you're
right.
I
did
just
cr
and
cross
the
the
meeting
topics.
So
very
good.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
but
yeah.
I
think
I
think
the
invitation
would
still
perhaps
stand
for
those
in
our
community
who
would
be
interested
in
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
H
Right,
but
there
are
two
conversations:
one
is
more
us
asking
them
about.
You
know
the
the
things
we
talked
about
earlier
in
this
call
and
then
there's
the
other,
which
is
a
point
that
dominique
hazel,
whatever.
H
Is,
however,
you
pronounce
his
name,
you
know
has
picked
up,
especially
because
of
he
was
the
whatever
the
team
conduct
for
webrtc
which
took
forever
to
get
standardized,
and
the
standard
is
really
just
the
sort
of
the
byproduct
of
the
open
source
work,
the
the
code
and
so
he's
he's
trying
to
learn
from
that
and
hopefully
yeah,
because
w3c
has
to
basically
use
an
exception
handling
mechanism
to
deal
with
things
like
webrtc
and
there's.
Something
else
called
the
the
web
font.
H
That
are
what
really
have
only
one
implementation
and
I
think
they're
trying
to
learn
they're,
trying
to
find
a
middle
ground
between
just
having
the
the
code
get
developed
and
then
the
standard
get
written
down
as
the
sort
of
well
here's
the
apis.
We
eventually
came
up
with
versus
you
know
the
thing
that
really
doesn't
happen
anymore,
which
is
a
bunch
of
people
getting
together
in
a
room
and
designing
an
api
and
then
going
off
and
implementing
it
in
in
clean
rooms
and
seeing
if
their
implementations
interoperate.
But
that's
just
not.
A
And
that
reminds
me
of
a
a
series
that
that
I
should
surface
to
this
group
if
you
find
that
that
space
kind
of
the
meta
space
of
this
kind
of
process
interesting
as
michael
champion,
I
know
you
you
and
I
do
the
open
forum
europe
group
is
having
these
ongoing
sort
of
brown
bag.
Lunch
series
that
about
the
intersection
of
standardization
and
open
source,
and
they
they've
been
getting
different
representatives
from
organizations.
A
I
think
the
jdf
will
present
ietf
w3c
oasis
others
and
you
can
sign
up
and
attend
these.
These
talks
and
they've
been
so
they've
been
two
so
far
and
they're
very,
very,
very
interesting
on
on
this
point
specifically,
I
can
share
that
in
slack
too,
I've
got
lots
of
things
to
share
with
you
on
slack
today.
F
So,
just
just
on
a
related
note
to
a
thing
that
mike
said
about
things
that
don't
happen
anymore,
like
a
lot
of
the
early
browsers
tim
burnsley
made
his
http
library
available,
like
as
a
free
software
and
a
bunch
of
early
browsers,
use
that
so
it's
not
like.
Even
from
the
very
beginnings
there
wasn't.
Some
of
that.
A
A
A
Nopers,
okay,
cool.
The
last
agenda
item
is
the
issue
106,
which
is
the
home
for
reference
implementation,
polyfills
brian.
This
was
this
is
one
of
yours.
We.
F
F
Yeah,
I
feel
like
it's
part
of
the
larger
discussion
that
we're
having,
because
it
had
a
lot
of
the
same
questions.
Even
so,
we
were
tabling
it
while
we
waited
for
the
survey
results,
but
I
think
that
also
these
conversations
we're
having
that
that
mike
was
just
talking
about-
and
you
were
just
talking
about-
are
also
relevant
here
so
like
if
there's
something
to
do
it's
a
ways
off
still.
I
think
we
need
more
information
and
discussions
to
know,
but
I
think
there's
potentially
something
interesting
there.
A
C
F
I
think
it's
good
food
for
the
discussion
that
mike
was
having
and
for
for
our
discussions,
but
I'm
not
sure
how,
like
I
don't
know
what
the
parameters
to
a
solution
there
are
like.
If,
if
you
have
a
proposal,
then
I
guess
we
could
talk
about
it
but
like
somehow,
we
need
to
dig
into
this
conversation
with
the
w3c.
C
But
but
I
mean
to
give
content
to
any
of
this
if
this
whole
thing
starts
going
somewhere,
I
do
literally
have
a
polyphil
implementation.
That
is
the
only
political
implementation
of
infiltral
rules,
and
I
would
be
very
happy
to
move
its
ownership
or
controller
under
the
open,
js
foundation
or
whatever,
if
that
starts
making
sense,
and
it's
also
something
that
is
actively
irrelevant.
C
Given
some
of
the
proposals
in
pc39
that
are
going
to
be
adding
more
functionality
to
with
the
number
format
of
e3
proposal
going
in
and
stuff
like
formatting,
the
plurals
of
ranges,
for
instance,
that
is
functionality
that
is
currently
not
supported
by
anyone
and
that's
going
to
need
first,
a
polyfill
that
this
can
provide.
So
just
thought,
I'd
mention
it.
A
A
I
would
love
emily
for
you
to
assuming
that
you're
available
and
all
of
that
that,
for
you
to
join
some
of
those
chats,
if
you're
able.
A
H
B
E
E
You
know,
landscape
of
you,
know,
competitiveness
in
the
market
and
implementations
like
saying
this
is
good,
and
this
is
bad
and
so
on,
and
and
that's
why
like
why
tz39
has
explicitly
tried
many
times
to
stay
out
of
that
arena.
A
Yeah
that
that,
like
goes
right
to
some
of
the
conversations
like
ryan
and
I
have
had
over
the
years
kevin
singh
on
this
too
so
sweet
I'm
excited.
I
think
we
have
lots
of
cool
things
that
we
could
be
kicking
tires
on,
just
like
jordan
and
emily
hit
me
up
in
slack
just
if
you
want
to
get
more
details
on
calls,
but
I'll
also
put
data
in
our
standards
slack
channel
so
that
you
can
opt
in
if
you
would
like.
A
Our
next
meeting
is
two
weeks
from
today,
which
is
not
april
2021.
What
hello?
What
month
am
I
in
skipping
ahead
to
the
spring
already
clearly
is
at
march
the
9th
at
2
p.m?
Eastern,
so
be
there
be
square.
A
Yeah,
we'll
fix
we'll
we'll
send
we'll
square
with
the
folks
in
in
slack,
so
we
don't
have
to
take
up
time,
but
all
right
so
attentively
march,
the
9th
either
now
or
perhaps
in
an
earlier
time
same
day.