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A
Do
we
have
any
announcements
before
we
kick
off
into
the
agenda?
I
have
one
I
wanted
to
congratulate
jordan
harband
again
for
receiving
an
ecma
award
for
his
awesome
contributions.
A
A
Do
we
have
any
other
announcements?
I
know
we
have
a
cpc
working
group
meeting
following
this.
You're
all
welcome
to
attend.
C
On
the
unicode
side,
so
starting
to
get
back
into
the
liaison
stuff
with
them,
and
I
should
be
joining
the
icu
and
cldr
meetings,
which
are
the
kind
of
both
of
the
things
that
comprise
you
know
the
javascript
intl
object,
but
was
recently
invited
to
join
the
cldr.
So
I'll
kind
of
see
both
sides
of
what's
going
on
there
and
try
to
report
back
ways
for
us
to
work
with
them.
C
Know,
oh
yeah,
so
sorry
yeah,
it's
acronyms,
so
I
see
you
as
international
components
for
unicode,
which
is
kind
of
like
how
unicode
you
know
how
things
work
and
like
as
you
you
know,
employ
it
within
intl,
which
is
you
know,
international.
The
internationalization
object
in
javascript.
So
how
you
do
things
like
date,
time
you
know
or
whatever
in
different
across
different
languages
across
different
regions
and
globalization,
and
things
like
that
so
internet
international
components
for
unicode
kind
of
is
the
glue
that
makes
that
work.
C
Whereas
cldr
is
a
common
locale
data
repository
and
that
that
is
sort
of
the
the
data
behind
you
know
icu
and
how
icu
works
so
kind
of
need
both
to
you
know
like
this
giant
set
of
data
to
be
able
to
internationalize
things.
A
Let's
jump
right
in
first.
A
C
E
A
Cool
very
cool-
we
don't
have
mike
samuel
here
today,
who
has
the
first
issue
on
issue
number
144,
requesting
10
minutes
to
discuss
api
translation
effort.
I
believe
I
missed
last
week's
the
last
meeting.
Perhaps
so,
did
you
all
have
a
chance
to
talk
about
this
yet
or.
C
So
he
he
and
I
and
a
couple
people
from
the
node.js
internationalization
working
group
and
whoever
else
is
interested-
are
going
to
meet
and
talk
about
this
sometime
soon.
C
So
we've
been
sort
of
chatting
in
a
dm
and
trying
to
set
up
a
time
to
talk
about
it
outside
because
he
presented,
I
didn't
get
to
catch
it,
but
he
presented
like
a
couple
weeks
ago,
as
he
said,
and
now
you
know
so
we're
trying
to
set
something
up
with
the
people
who
are
interested
in
that
and
moving
forward.
D
A
And
you
all
are
you're
all
here,
probably
a
couple
weeks
ago
on
that,
so,
let's
see
do
you
want
to
just
drop
an
update
in
the
issue
once
you
have
an
update,
that'd
be
cool.
B
D
D
And
additionally,
we
should
probably
discuss
invited
experts,
because
tc39
is
probably
not
the
only
standards
group
that
has
some
sort
of
unofficial
participant
status,
and
so
we
should
kind
of
because
that
that
can
require
perhaps
lesser
criteria,
because
they're
not
necessarily
like
representing
the
foundation
as
much
as
they
are.
D
The
foundation
is
volunteering
them
to
go
and
provide
their
expertise
right
so
sort
of
as
a
way
to
make
sure
that
we
are
clear
and
transparent
with
our
policies
here
and
also
so
that
we
can
avoid
debating
about
it
in
in
these
meetings.
D
Every
time
it
comes
up
and
actually
related
was
in
there's
a
pr
number
148,
that's
open
on
the
standards
repo,
and
there
was
an
open
question
on
that
which
was
is
the
intention
to
list
all
of
the
people
in
the
found
in
the
standards
group
who
participate
in
standards
or
only
the
people
who
officially
represent
openjs.
D
So,
for
example,
I
am
par.
I
participate
in
standards,
but
I
do
not
officially
represent
openjs
in
those,
not
participation.
So
the
answer
to
that
question
dictates
whether
I'm
included
in
the
list
in
that
pr
or
not,
for
example,
either
way
is
fine,
but
we
should
make
a
call.
I
think.
C
Yeah
same
in
that
capacity
you
know
like
with
unicode.
It
would
be
like
me,
representing
openjs,
as
a
liaison
member
but
yeah
that
I've
I've
also
been
on
the
ekma
402
or
with
fm402
before
as
an
invited
expert.
You
know,
so
I
think,
like
kind
of
defining
these
terms
and
what
that
looks
like-
and
you
know
who
wants
to
join
via
openjs
is
probably
a
good
thing
I
mean
jordan.
Is
you
know,
jordan
like
represents
things
from
kind
of
all
angles?
C
Of
hats
yeah
exactly
but
yeah.
I
definitely
as
far
as
generally
be
interested
in
in
representing
you
know,
via
via
open.js
for
sure.
D
Yeah,
I
mean
for
me,
it
just
seemed
since
there
are
considerations
about
whether
someone
is
a
delegate
because,
like
it
represents
openjs
foundation
right
like
because
that
their
word
carries
a
different
weight
there.
It
seems
like
if
we
restrict
the
list
to
just
that,
then
it
will
be
a
short
list
and
it
won't
provide
as
much
helpful
information.
D
So
it
seems
more
useful
to
me
if
it's
just,
if
you
know
we
call
out
when
someone
is
officially
representing
them
like
when
one
of
the
people
in
the
list
is
an
official
representative,
but
it
seems
more
useful
to
list
all
of
the
known
open,
js
people
who
do
standards
anything
and
what
that
standards.
Things
are
right.
So,
like
you
know,
for
like
discoverability
and
stuff,
but
that
you
know
it's
a
lightly
held
opinion.
E
C
Yeah
understanding
the
footprint,
what
what
people
are
doing
is
really
important
so
that
we
can
all
continue
to
gain
context
about
where
people
are
and
what
they're
doing
so.
I
definitely
agree.
D
Yeah
and
jory
has
that
open
pr
148.
That
already
largely
does
that.
I'm
sure
it's
missing
some
folks
but
like
feel
free
to
review
it
and
suggestion
yourself
in
there
or
people
you
know
or
miss,
but
yeah.
So
I'll
comment
on
that
and
just
say
that
we've
decided
that
we
discussed
and
confirmed
that
it's
meant
to
be
all
standards
adjacent
people
and
that
we
will
note
when
they
are
officially
representing
the
foundation
versus
not
cool.
E
I
think
this
means
that
we
ought
to
revisit
to
reaffirm
an
earlier
decision
regarding
the
indexing
of
this
page,
whether
it
is
by
organization
primarily
or
by
person,
primarily,
because
if
we
are,
as
we
have
now,
effectively
decided
to
expand
the
scope
of
what
is
being
listed
to
being
more,
that
should
be
effectively
redecided.
I
think,
if
you
understand
what
I
mean.
G
E
A
D
Yeah,
like
so
so
for
my
example,
it
would
be
like
tc39
and
then
there
would
be
list
all
the
tc39
people
that
do
they're
in
opengs
and
then
for
the
ones
that
are
official.
It
would
probably
be
at
the
top
and
say
like
official
openjs
whatever
and
then
like.
The
rest
would
lack
that
and
then
for
everyone
in
that
list.
It
would
list
like
print
in
friends
or
something
like
the
the
member
company
or
organization
that
they
are
attending
via
so
like
yeah,.
E
Okay,
on
a
related
note
on
this
one,
I
honestly
have
no
idea
what
my
status
was.
Equal
402
is.
E
So,
for
instance,
in
this
sort
of
case,
as
I
am
not
aware
of
having
been
decided
by
us
to
to
be
an
official
representative
towards
ekma
402
in
ekma,
402
notes,
for
instance,
a
meeting
notes
and
so
on.
How
should
I
note
my
affiliation
there?
Is
it
okay?
If
I
continue
to
note
that
I'm
coming
from
openjs
foundation,
or
should
I
actually
not
do
that.
D
In
a
general
philosophy,
I
mean
everyone,
anyone
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
I'm
saying
something
they
disagree
with,
but
I
would
say
in
the
general
sense,
you
should
put
invited
expert
and
not
put
open
js
unless
you're,
officially
representing
it.
In
this
specific
sense,
I
agree
that
you
have
not
yet
been
explicitly
approved
as
being
openjs
like
official,
but
I
also
suspect,
if
you
filed
such
an
issue,
it
would
not
be
a
controversial
one
at
which
point
you
listing
open
js
would
be
fine.
E
E
Then
I
shall
endeavor
to
do
so
pending
some
current
employment
developments
that
are
actively
happening.
That
may
affect
this
particular
thing
that
I
am
not
absolutely
certain
of
at
this
time.
Yes,.
A
A
Great-
and
this
could
perhaps
be
a
part
jory-
and
I
have
been
talking
the
past
week
about
getting
our
education
website
webpage
up,
so
this
can
be
a
part
of
that
as
well.
Our
goal
is
to
have
it
done
before
the
end
of
the
summer.