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A
A
And
it's
a
tuesday
we're
talking
about
issue,
we're
gonna
and
we
have
our
agenda
up
on
the
up
on
the
standards
working
group
repo
and
we
just
started
to
jump
into
issue-
is
at
168.
A
Initially,
it
started
out,
as
what
can
we
do?
We
were
looking
at
how
we
can
participate
in
openjs
world.
I
think
it's
broadened
beyond
that.
Just
a
few
key
points,
and
the
first
point
that
we
were
starting
to
brainstorm
before
we
forgot
to
stream
was
a
recognition
and
rewards
award
program.
A
Quickly
summarize,
we
thought
it
would
be
super
cool
for
us
to
join
with
the
cpc
in
the
in
a
way,
that's
similar
that
the
cncf
does
their
chopwood
carry
water.
That
will
have
our
own
recognition
program
for
folks
who
are
our
unsung
heroes
and
we're
talking
about
how
we
can
do
that
at
openjs.
In
the
standards
group,
jordan
for
tc39,
you
have
talked
about
that
the
champions
often
already
get
rewarded,
but
there's
other
folks
who
who
don't
try
to
quickly
summarize
in
notes
mike.
A
You
talked
about
the
same
thing
in
w3c
and
how,
in
the
open
that
book
during
book
club,
we
talked
about
how
maintainers
often
don't
get
recognized
and
rewarded,
and
then
we
also
talked
about
then
there's
some
folks
who
just
aren't
rewarded
for
even
just
playing
a
kind
of
a
constructive
sort
of
feedback
loop
to
some
proposals
that
are
being
considered.
A
A
C
A
A
C
A
A
C
Yeah,
I
added
a
line
about
blog
posts
and
stuff
at
the
bottom.
I
think
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
creating
helpful
educational
and
introductory
content
for
the
ecosystem
that
are
not
doing
it
solely
to
sell
things,
and
that
is,
I
think,
a
group
that
should
be
rewarded,
the
ones
that
are
doing
it
to
sell
things
they
they
sell
things.
So
that's
their
reward
right.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
optimize
for
them.
A
We're
talking
about
a
recognition
and
rewards
program
creating
our
own
and
we're
talking
about
the
different
types
of
activities
that
these
unsung
heroes
do
to
to
make
an
impact
and
we're
talking
about
the
need
to
do
that.
Just
so
one
we
can
reframe
their
comp
their
achievements,
for
maybe
their
bosses
in
the
industry
and
the
rest,
their
co-workers.
Who
may
not
understand
what
they're
doing,
and
why
and
in
doing
so
and
creating
these
awards
that
we
would
hand
out
at
openjs,
world
and
market
through
all
of
our
channels.
B
B
B
C
We
either
give
an
award
for
the
category
or
we
give
an
award
for
the
category
like
in
any
ecosystem
or
whatever,
whether
that's
like,
javascript
or
w3c
or
node,
or
you
know,
whatever
makes
sense,
yeah
because
like
if
we,
if
we
do
it
by
category
and
then
we
have
a
bunch
of
or
if
we
do
it
by
like
ecosystem,
we
have
a
bunch
of
empty
ecosystems
like
if
one
year
we
reward
node
and
next
year.
We
like.
A
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
then,
but
it's
sort
of
the
same
thing
as
like
the
just
I
just
want
to
make.
I
I'm
not
yet
convinced
like
or
I'm
not
yet
certain,
how
like,
whether
we'll
have
large
piles
of
candidates
for
all
of
the
possible
category
and
standard
ecosystem
combinations.
If
we,
if
we
do
awesome
like
we,
should
reward
each
of
those
but
like
if
we
don't,
we
wanna
yeah
be
more
flexible.
B
Yeah,
I
agree,
I
think,
finding
people
that
that
are
doing
the
kind
of
things
we're
talking
about
and
then
inventing
a
category
is
probably
better
than
predefining
categories
and
trying
to
find
people
that
fit
in
them.
B
C
You
could
also
like
pay
attention
to
different
like
metrics
of
like
is
someone
a
newcomer.
Let's
maybe
give
the
what's
maybe
give
a
an
award
that
highlights
that
that
the
thing
they're
doing
is
you
know
that
they're
like
a
new
new
contributor
and
then
like
separately?
If,
if
someone
is
like
doing
work
over
a
long
period
of
time,
they're
like
persistent
or
whatever,
then
like
you
know,
we
could
look
at
that
type
of
metric
or
you
know,
like
michael,
was
saying,
bridging
different
categories
right.
C
We
can
look
at
someone
who's
doing
like
if
someone's
writing
test
262
tests,
but
like
little
ones
for
every
proposal
like
that's
valuable,
even
if
the
individual
chunk
of
work
isn't
like
doing
isn't.
Moving
the
needle
much
the
fact
they're
doing
that
consistently
and
persistently
is
really
valuable
and
that's
something
we'd
want
to
highlight
things.
A
C
A
C
Well,
there's
there's
a
lot
about
the
so
like
evangelizing
and
educating
and
stuff
is
something
you
usually
do
like
once.
The
feature
exists
and
is
designed
yeah.
A
C
That's
like
you
know,
read
me
stuff,
that's
you
know
respectfully
debating
you
know
and
offering
pushback
there's
you
know,
do
building
implementations
and
so
there's
sort
of
like
the
the
design
phase,
the
implementation
phase
and
the
education
phase,
and
in
any
of
these
someone
might
be
a
new
contributor
or
a
long
time.
C
C
A
C
Yeah,
I
have
a
feeling
that
it
it
will
be
easier
to
define
these
categories
when
we
do
have
a
list
of
like
a
concrete
list
of
people
and
tasks
and
like
achievements
and
stuff,
because
it'll
be
at
that
point,
I
think
it'll
be
easier
to
see
when
someone's
being
excluded
and
why-
and
you
know,
yeah
because
I
think
we
want
to
design
categories
such
that
all
the
work
that
we
want
to
see
happen
is
somehow
considered
yeah
right.
C
A
A
So
I'm
thinking
you
know
again
execution.
How
do
we
execute
this
and
I'm
thinking
about
it?
Also
with
the
cpc
you
know,
it'll
we'll
have
to
we'll
write
it.
We'll
do
set
two
separate
write-ups,
because
the
cpc
will
cascade
through
the
projects.
Here
we
would
cascade
through
the
reps
of
our
standards,
orgs
and
the
participants
here.
C
C
I
would
probably
go
look
at
the
I'd.
Probably
go:
ask
the
champions
of
the
various
proposals
that
have
advanced
or
been
presented
recently
and
just
be
like
hey.
Is
there
anyone
who's
work?
You
know
who's,
not
a
champion.
Who's
done
work
on
the
proposal
that
you
find
valuable
to
move
it
forward
and
you
know
sort
of
crowdsource
it
from
that,
and
I
imagine
they
all
have
a
few
names
in
mind
and
if
they
dig
a
little
bit
could
come
up
with
some
others.
A
C
D
Also,
maybe
if
we
can
programmatically
figure
out
from
the
comments
in
the
proposal,
repo
to
see
who
are
the
non-campaign
and
the
champions
and
kind
of
it
can
give
us
a
holistic
view
of
those
individuals
who
aren't
champions.
C
The
there
are,
there
are
people
who,
whose
only
participation
in
a
proposal
is
showing
up
and
arguing
something
or
like
asking,
or
you
know,
presenting
alternative
viewpoint
or
whatever
and
among
those
it
doesn't
take
very
long
to
filter
out
the
ones
who
are
less
respectful
and,
like
the
rest,
are.
C
A
It
sounds
like
I
have
some
volunteers
to
do
that
and
then
you
know
I
can
help
by
writing
it
up.
So
if
tc39
we
have
w3c
represented,
we
could
ask
emily
for
support
from
his
neck
of
the
woods.
D
A
Yeah,
the
the
graphics
folks
at
the
linux
foundation
did
not
get
to
it,
so
we're
creating
a
page
and
right
now
we
just
have
that
repo
with
all
of
the
links,
so
I've
taken
the
action
item
to
write
the
page
and
then
brian
warner
will
just
we'll
put
it
up
on
that
page
until
we
get
a
designer
on
board.
So.
B
A
Okay
and
she
was
late,
so
she
had
to
go
into
the
doctor
and
say
now,
so
she
got
to
schedule
that
new
year's
baby,
which
is
nice,
nice,
yeah
and
she's
splitting
her
maternity
leave
so
she's
doing
half
of
it
now
and
then
half
after
open
js
world.
So
unless
she
changes
her
mind
what
she
can
do,
because
last
time
I
talked
to
her,
she
was
not
having
a
lot
of
sleep.
C
I'm
trying
I'm
thinking
along
various
lines
and
the
phrase
that
just
popped
in
my
head
is
no
stone
unturned.
I
don't
know
if
that
there's
something
there,
something
like
I'm
like
a
a
useful
branding,
I
think,
would
be
something
that
conveys
that
we
are
acknowledging
catching
covering
whatever
the
things
that
are
often
forgotten
or
missed
or
fall
through
the
cracks
and
so
something
that
evokes.
That
would
be
pretty
useful.
I
think.
A
A
A
B
C
A
B
C
Like
open
source
projects,
often
over
over
index,
unlike
code
as
the
valuable
contributions
and
so
like,
I
would
think
we
want
to
give
off
a
connotation
of
like
you
know
the
just
all
you
know
all
the
aspects
of
work,
even
if
you're
not
directly
producing
content.
A
C
A
A
C
D
D
B
B
D
B
I
did
this
caterpillar
right
now:
the
weeders
yeah,
the
cultivators
check
cultivators.
C
I
wonder:
is
there
like
a
generic
a
more
slightly
more
generic
term
for,
like
all
the
pieces
of
an
ecosystem
right
like
like
in
a
in
like
in
in
nature,
there's
like
an
ecosystem,
there's
like
predators
and
praise,
and
you
talk
about
apex,
predators
and
the
food
chain
and
all
that
stuff?
And
that's
like
a
hierarchy
but
like
like
there's?
C
B
C
C
B
Oh
sorry,
I
said
janitors,
but
that's
not
exactly
a
desirable
thing
to
label
somebody.
No,
but
caretakers.
Caretakers
does
have
kind
of
that.
A
A
A
And
we
could
take
these
to,
I
think
they
would
work
in
the
cpc
as
well.
Do
you
think
for
the
just
that
for
open
source,
yeah.
B
B
D
A
There
we
go
all
right:
okay,
we
have
a
few
more
minutes
left.
One
of
the
other
points
that
we
had
for
how
we
show
up
at
openjs
world,
and
we
should
probably
I
should
probably
split
these
issues
for
sure-
is
to
do
some
education
and
hey
math.
Wasn't
here
we're
like?
C
Coming
up,
yeah
it'll
have
to
be
around
tc39,
but
other
than
that.
I
think
we
can
make
it
work
as
far
as
the
timing
right
like
it
depends
on
what
we're
talking
about.
If
the
crowd
is
is
interested,
we
could
talk
for
three
hours
and
if
they're
not
interested,
we
might
be
done
in
20
minutes.
But
yeah
seems
like
a
good
place
to
bet.
A
A
Okay,
y'all,
let
me
know-
and
if
you
want
once
you
know,
we
have
some
time
before
we
start
publishing
the
schedule.
So
you
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
think
about
it,
but
I
will
block
off
a
spot
for
you.
C
B
A
We
do
leave
a
little
grace
period
over
the
weekend,
because
time
zones
around
the
world
are
so
wacky.
So
the
program
committee
will
have
a
spreadsheet
to
review
on
monday.