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Join Hilliary and Christian as they go over their favorite parts of ArgoCon and Kubecon
A
B
B
Yes,
awesome:
yes,
exactly
by
the
way
we're
live,
yeah,
oh
man
yeah!
So
we're
back
after
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
short
Hiatus
right,
I
guess,
just
kind
of
you
know
we
we
were
off
for
a
little
bit.
You
know
you
had
some
time
off
and
we
had
kubecon
and
we
figured
you
know
what,
let's,
let's
take
a
little
bit
a
little
break,
you're
a
kind
of
a
little
kind
of
Sanity
break
because
I
don't
know
about
anyone
else
out
there
I
know
for
kubecon
and
argocon.
B
B
That's
why
we
had
took
a
little
kind
of
a
little
extended
Break
I
had
I
had
an
amazing
time
at
kubecon
in
Amsterdam,
so
at
first
I
want
to
talk
about
Amsterdam
every
time
I
go
to
Amsterdam
like
it's
been
a
few
I've
been
there
a
few
times
anytime
I
go
there.
I
always
think
like.
Why
haven't
I
moved
here
yet
absolutely
love
the
city.
I,
don't
know
about
any
of
you
out
there.
I
love
the.
A
B
Awesome
I
didn't
venture
too
far
out
from
the
actual
fractual
City
I
kind
of
stayed
a
little
bit
outside
of
downtown
and
then
the
only
time
I
I
ventured
out.
I
actually
visited
the
red
hat
office,
which
is
kind
of
like
on
the
outskirts.
It's
still
technically
Amsterdam
but
like
if
you
cross
the
street
you're
somewhere
else.
It's
like
it's
on
the
outskirts,
so
that
was
pretty
cool
to
see.
B
A
It
was
super
easy
commute
for
me
and
then
but
yeah
so
like
this
huge
IBM
building
is
just
right
there
and
it's
not
very
far
away
from
the
airport,
either
like
literally
an
eight
minute
car
ride,
and
so
I
looked
at
I
was
like
okay.
So
how
would
I
get
to
the?
How
would
I
get
to
the
red
hat
office
if
I
want
to
go
and
I
was
like?
No,
no
all
the
way
across
town.
B
A
B
B
A
B
B
So
yeah
before
we
get
into
like
you
know,
we
were
kind
of
started
talking
about
Amsterdam,
but
the
actual
like
kubecon
argocon
thing
I
do
want
to
sh.
Give
a
is
this.
Is
this
us?
Do
we?
Oh,
we
can
post
as
restream
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
this
UI,
but
I'll
I'll,
maybe
paste
it
here
and
hopefully
it'll
go.
B
B
So
this
is
for
so
for
those
who
haven't
heard
of
heard
cdcon,
which
is
rent,
which
is
kind
of
like
the
CD,
Foundation
and
city
con,
is
the
the
governing
organization
that
governs
like
stuff
like
techton
I,
guess
for
us
and
like
Jenkins,
and
you
know
other
other
CD
specific
tools,
that's
kind
of
their
conference,
we've
kind
of
glommed
them
together,
because
it's
all
related
right.
It's
all
get
a
CD,
continuous
delivery,
continuous
deployment,
it's
related
to
get
Ops.
That's
you
know
all
kinds
of
so
I'll,
be
there.
B
I
actually
have
a
keynote
and
I'm
emceeing
day
two.
So
in
case
you
haven't
gotten
enough
of
me
yet
go
to
get
Ops
con
in
Vancouver.
A
lot
of
folks
are
going
and
a
lot
of
my
favorite
Canadians
will
be
there
because
it's
in
Vancouver
a
lot
of
I
I,
know
a
lot
of
Canadian
Red
Hatters.
For
whatever
reason
it's
just
I
just
know
a
lot
of
them.
So
I'll
see
a
few
a
few
of
those
folks.
B
There
it'll
be
it'd,
be
great,
so
so
yeah
check
it
out
if
you're
in
the
area-
or
you
know,
if
you
can
get
that
last
minute.
Travel
approved,
go
ahead
and
go
well.
I'll
I'll,
be
there
running
that
event,
so
come
say
hi
if
you're
going
so
so
much
so
much
fun
if
it
feels
like
I
just
got
back
and
now
I'm
flying
out
again
so
yeah.
A
B
A
Literally,
have
taken
some
kind
of
trip
every
month
since
November,
so
I
am
super
done
with
being
anywhere
but
home
I'm
very
happy
to
stay
home
I'm,
not
as
important
a
person
as
you
are
I,
don't
have
committees,
and
all
this
other
things
like
that.
That
require
me
to
be
planning
and
executing
these
types
of
events,
because
that
sounds
exhausting
honestly.
So
thank
you
and
everybody
with
you
who
does
that
I
appreciate
you
all
so
much
because
I
always
enjoy
the
conferences
when
I
go,
but
I
am
so
glad.
That's
not
me.
A
A
B
Kind
of
like
some
of
the
bigger
ones
I'm
doing
like
argocon
and
get
upska,
which
is
like
tiny
compared
to
some
of
these
bigger,
bigger
things,
so
yeah
shout
out
to
them
and
Gerald
will
be
there
by
the
way.
I
don't
know
if
it's
float
plane,
I,
don't
know
if,
if
you've
ever
seen,
the
float
planes
that
land
on
the
water
in
Vancouver-
that's
really
really
cool,
hopefully
Gerald,
because
he
lives
in
Victoria.
So
he
he
does
really
literally
need
to
either
take
a
ferry
or
or
take
a
a
float
plane.
B
A
A
I
think
so
yeah
we
were
just
we
were
not
awake,
we
really
were
not
awake.
That
was,
it
was.
It
was
our
presentation,
I
think
was
great
I
watched,
the
recording,
which
is
up
actually
after
the
fact,
I
thought
that
went
very
well,
I
was
told
it
went
very
well
and
I
was
like
good
I'm
glad
you
think
so
because
I
don't
remember
what
I
just
said
I'm
so
out
of
it.
B
A
B
A
But
you
know
what
was
fun
for
me,
though,
is
so
after
after
Argo
con
right.
So,
first
of
all,
after
our
talk
at
argocon,
a
couple
people
come
up
to
me
and
they
used
to
work
at
red
hat
and
they're
like
hey.
We
remember
you
from
memo
list.
Yes,
there's
only
been
one
one
time
I've
been
on
memo
list
right,
yeah,.
B
Yeah
exactly
which
is
funny
because
it's
like
that's
the
exact
for
for
us
red
Hatters.
So
for
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
like
an
inside
Red
Hat
joke
right,
so
like
for
red
Hatter,
so
red
eyes
are
watching
that's
an
appropriate
reaction
of
like
hey
I
saw
you
post
a
memo
list,
you're
like
oh
at
first,
you
don't
know
whether
it's
a
positive
or
negative
right
until
they
tell
you
yeah.
A
Yeah,
so
it
was
a
positive,
so
I
was
really
like,
but
I
was
like
they're
like
oh
yeah,
because
we
saw
that
yeah
that
thread
on
Limitless.
We
knew
we
had
to
come
to
your
talk
and
I
was
like.
Oh,
my
God,
that
is
like
so
sweet
I
was
beside
myself
with
like
Joy
and
then
kind
of
around
the
conference.
I
had
this
unusual
experience
the
last
year
kubecon
nobody,
nobody
knew
who
I
was
right.
Nobody
I
was
I
was
under
the
radar.
A
A
I
I
didn't
think
we
were
that
cool
except
for,
like
I
know
some
of
our
friends
watch
it
after
the
fact
like
that,
like
for
somebody,
I
did
not
know
to
come
up
and
say
that
he
watches
our
show
after
the
fact
and
like
I
was
like.
Oh
my
God,
that's
super
cool
and
then
I
had
a
couple.
Other
people
when
I
was
around.
It
was
kind
of
be
like
and
I'm
like.
Oh
hey,
do
you
need
anything
like
yeah?
Do
I
do
I
recognize
you
from
YouTube,
but
I
was
like
yes?
A
Yes,
yes,
you
do,
which
is
so
weird,
so
that
was
that
was
very
strange
and
also
really
delightful,
because
I'm
I
mean
I'm,
obviously
doing
this
because
I
love
attention
so
like.
Thank
you
so
much
for
watching
and
giving
me
the
attention
that
I
want
it's
an
honor,
so
that
was
that
was
really
exciting
for
me
and
then
I
think
notable
other
highlights
was
overhearing.
Somebody
say,
hang
on,
I'll
call
her
and
get
her
over
to
the
booth
and
then
realizing
that
the
her
was
me.
Oh.
B
A
Having
to
do
an
on-the-fly
like
demo
of
something
in
openshift
like
to
do
with
like
how
how
logging
works
and
kind
of
what
options
you
have
for
logging
observability
with
openshift,
when
I
was
unprepared
and
literally
had
access
to
one
Dev
cluster,
that
was
currently
running
absolutely
nothing.
So
it
was
the
most
the
most
useless
demo
ever,
but
they
did
get
what
they
needed
out
of
it.
So
that
was
that
was
good,
and
it
was
really
just
like.
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
That
that
kind
of
just
like
you
know,
exploded
because
of
like
Cloud
native
right
because
of
the
cncf
and
all
the
projects,
and
you
know
all
these-
you
know
different
companies,
kind
of
just
exploded.
So
I'm
like
oh,
like
what?
What
use
cases
you
know
you're
trying
to
solving
you
know
I,
like
Booth
hopping,
so
that's
kind
of
like
my
favorite,
my
favorite
thing.
A
B
A
A
Old
tree-
and
he
wasn't
even
there-
andy
was
at
the
captain.
Booth
and
I
did
go,
say
hi
to
him
and
so
I,
but
I
did
actually
end
up
accidentally
spending
an
hour
there,
and
you
know
we
have
like
some
strategic
partnership
with
with
dynatrace,
so
that's
like
they,
they
saw
Red
Hat.
They
were
like
oh
friend
and
I've
got
like
literally
just
thrown
all
the
swag.
B
A
A
B
A
B
Andrew
block
probably
knows
what
the
the
help
yeah
so
like
in
terms
of
Swag.
It
was,
it
was
okay,
but
nothing
was
a
must-have.
There's
usually
like
one.
That's
like
kind
of
like
a
must-have
I
know,
palumi
had
like
the
little
ears
one
year,
I
think
it
was
in
Valencia
that
was
pretty
hot
hot
sought
after
item,
but
but
yeah
no,
it
was.
It
was
a
lot
of
fun.
I.
A
B
B
A
B
Was
it
was
actually
it
there
were
badly
placed?
They
were
like
there
were
across
from
us,
but
like
facing
the
glass
so
like
the
whole
con,
so
I
would
yeah.
So
you
know
the
you
know,
person
would
walk
in
and
make
a
left
immediately,
because
that's
it
seemed
that's.
That's
where
all
the
booths
were,
but
there
was
actually
a
few
on
the
right
like.
If
you
made
a
right,
there
was
like
actually
a
few
and
they
were.
They
were
stuck
out
there
in
the
front.
So.
B
A
A
A
Probably
right
talk
to
your
people
watching
absolutely
top
tier,
but
the
shop
was
really
cool
and
that
I'm
really
happy
with
the
the
tattoos
about
two
weeks
old
now.
So
it's
like
healing
very
nicely
I'm
really
happy
with
it
and
so
yeah,
so
I
I
did
that?
Okay
is
it
just
me?
This
is
totally
not
coupon
related
I
I
went
through
Amsterdam
and,
like
every
part
of
Amsterdam
that
I
visited.
If
you
had
told
me,
it
was
a
different
city.
I
would
have
believed
you
like
is.
Was
it
just
me?
B
Look
look
and
feel
yes,
absolutely
because
it's
like
I
was
where
my
hotel
was.
It
felt
very
it
like,
like.
You
could
have
been
in
New
York
right
like
it's
like,
because
I
guess
it's
very
like
busy
businessy
type
of
thing
and
then,
like
you
know,
a
short
10
minute
train
ride
and
then
like
you're
in
downtown
I'm
like
oh,
this
is
Amsterdam
yeah.
It
feels
like
Amsterdam.
A
B
The
app
right
to
kind
of
just
like
it's
pretty
much
one
app
and
you
can
buy.
You
know,
tickets
to
whatever
right
like
buses.
I
was
gonna,
say,
espon,
but
like
Street,
the
street
cars
or
or
the
subway.
You
know
it's
just
it's
just
one
app
and
you
kind
of
just
tap
it.
It's
really
really
cool
very
convenient.
I
would
say.
A
A
B
B
Don't
know
so
far
so
for
Argo,
Khan,
I,
don't
know
what
there
was
like
for
me.
There
was.
There
was
two
talks
that
kind
of
like
stood
out.
I
mean
other
than
hours
that
by
the
way,
if
you
wanted
to
see
I
posted
in
the
chat,
that's
our
talk
there.
Those
who
are
watching
on
video
go
ahead
and
pause
it.
So
that
way
you
can
that
way.
You
can
type
that
vigorously
but
I
like
the
one
talking
about
this
one
from
what
do
you
call
it?
B
These
are
always
my
favorite
talks
right,
like,
like
actual
you
know,
I
guess:
Tales
From,
The
Trenches
right,
like
actual
like
implementation
of
certain
certain,
like
from
like
a
like
a
large
organization
like
like,
like
the
New
York
Times
right,
not
not
to
disparage
like
you
know,
smbs
or
anything
like
that,
but,
like
like
you,
want
to
know
that
it's
gonna
scale
and
I.
Think
these
stories
show
like
how
well
it's
gonna
scale.
B
B
A
B
B
You
know
kind
of
like
the
Hub
and
spoke
design
right
like
one
Argo
to
ruin
the
mall
logical,
sorry,
one
Argo
per
cluster,
and
they
did
one
per
logical
group
or
split
instances.
What's
very
interesting
is
that
New
York
Times
actually
mentioned
open
cluster
management,
which
is
basically
ACM
right
so
like
they
were
actually
looking
at
the
Upstream
open
cluster
management,
to
kind
of
do
what
they
call
split
instances
and
what
they
ended
up.
Doing
is
kind
of
like
a
hybrid
right.
A
B
A
A
Lunch
or
something
I
haven't
had
lunch
yet
so
I'll
do
that
eventually
yeah
lunch
eventually
for
a
moment
talk
about
the
just
simple
but
like
perfect
branding
on
their
slides,
like
the
all
black
slide
with
the
white
New
York
Times
Like,
It's,
So,
elegant
it's
so
nice
I
got
distracted
by
that.
Actually
I
was
like
wow.
These
are
great
architectural
diagrams.
But
let's
look
at
that
slide.
Branding.
B
B
B
A
B
Yeah,
so
that's
that
that's
really
cool
right
like
to
see
kind
of
like
the
non-tech
companies
like
really
really
drive,
like
you,
know,
Tech
things
so
for
like
he
says,
hi
back
I,
so
for
like
the
progressive
sync
controller
for
Argo
CD,
which
I
think
I
demoed
not
too
long
ago.
We
may
revisit
that
one
day,
but
that
was
actually
written
by
indeed
so,
like
just
like
the
internal
Engineers
have
indeed
had
a
need.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean
and
honestly,
like
non-tech
companies
are
really
who
we
do
this,
for
you
know
it.
It
really
is
like
these
they're,
who
we
do
this
for
it's
like
you,
don't
have
to
figure
this
stuff
out
yourself,
because
we've
we've
created
a
project
that
can
that
can
help.
Do
it
for
you,
so
I
I
like
it
when
we
get
to
see
like
the
in
I
mean
not
so
be
I,
haven't
really
done
any.
A
You
know
contributions
to
Argo
but
like
more
like
for
you
and
other
things
that
I
have
contributed
to
like
getting
to
see
like
yes,
this
is
our.
These
are
really
part
of
our
Target
demographic,
actually
doing
the
things
with
the
tool
that
we
gave
them
and
understanding
all
like
the
breadth
of
our
impact
right.
A
B
B
B
A
A
A
B
You
know
because
they
have
like
Edge.
You
know
Computing
like
with
Argo,
and
he
said
that
you
know
they.
They
lost
I
forget
how
much
during
attacks
right
like
like
great
attacks
to
the
actual
infrastructure
and
how
they
and
how
him
and
his
team
handled
you
know
like
doing
like
failover,
and
you
know
getting
things
up
and
running
and
how
to
do
things
like
in
an
air
gapped
environment
to
you
know,
reduce
the
you
know
the
impact
right,
one
place
one,
you
know
piece
of
equipment
gets
hacked
it.
B
It
can't
like
reach
out
to
the
other
ones,
because
it's
you
know
it's
air
gap,
it's
kind
of
like
a
self-sustaining
thing
and
so
yeah,
and
then
it
goes
over
kind
of
some
of
the
tools
yeah.
He
uses,
Argo,
kubernetes,
trivia,
I
think
get
T
things
like
that.
So
I
thought
that
was
an
interesting
talk.
I
try
to
catch
him
after
his
talk
but
like
he
got
swarmed
by
a
bunch
of
people.
After
his
talk
so
I.
B
I
wanted
to
pick
his
brain,
but
but
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
like
I
would
I
would
check
that
out
right,
a
combinative
deployments,
air
gap,
environments,
don't
let
the
it
is
about
security,
but
then
he
goes
into
a
story
about
like
the
Ukraine
war.
And
how,
like
you
know
how
that
how
you
know
technology
right
like
how
a
technologists
have
to
prepare
for
things
like
that
and
like
it
was
just
kind
of
like
it's
really
really
great.
So
that's
another
talk,
I,
really
like
from
kubecon.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
And
we
actually
just
talked
about
how
how
we
do
what
we
do
in
the
community
and
a
little
bit
like
more
about
like
kind
of
demystifying
us
demonstrating
that
we're
people
so
somewhere
I
hope,
there's
a
link
to
that
talk
somewhere.
I
encourage
anybody,
who's
at
all
involved
in
an
open
source,
Community
or
especially,
the
kubernetes
Community,
to
just
kind
of
take
a
look
at
take
a
look
at
the
talk
and
the
things
that
we
we
discuss
in
their
because,
specifically,
it
was
like.
You
know.
A
B
You
know
it's
not.
You
know
some
of
these
folks
do
this
thing
like
on
their
spare
time
right
like
they're,
not
not
getting
paid
for
it.
So
you
know
it's
cool
to
kind
of,
like
you
know
like
like
put
a
face
to
you
know
some
of
these
things,
like
you,
said
demystifying,
it's
not
like
you
know,
there's
someone
in
the
tower
making
these
decisions
right
like
it's.
It's
an
actual
committee.
A
A
You
think
about
being
kind
to
each
other
as
that
that
goes
a
long
way,
so
that
that's
really
the
other
other
big
takeaway
from
kubecon
other
than
that.
So
argocon
is
done.
I
am
curious.
Christian
last
year
it
was
get
Ops
con,
plus
plus
kubecon
this
year
it's
argocon,
plus
kubecon
and
now
you've
got
good
Ops
Con
coming
up,
like
you
said
on
Monday
I.
A
B
Who
don't
know
Argo
the
Argo
projects
is
made
up
of
four
different,
like
sub
four
different
tools,
right,
which
was
developed,
add
into
it
inside
of
into
it
after
the
acquisition
of
Athletics
right,
so
they
act.
Acquired
Athletics
took
that
talent
to
create
the
Argo
project,
and
so
what's
cool
about
argocon
is
like
you
get
folks
talking
like
you
get
some
like.
You
get
a
lot
of
python
folks
there,
because
it's
kind
of,
like
you,
know
the
AIML
machine
learning
machine
modeling,
that's
kind
of
where
Argo
workflows
was
born.
B
B
Next,
next,
not
honestly!
Next
week.
Next
next
episode,
we
have
the
folks
from
Pipe
kit
to
talk
about
coming
on,
to
talk
more
about
that
right.
More
about
that
aspect
that
that
side
of
of
Argo
right
Beyond,
just
like
get
ups
and
Beyonce
ICD,
just
other
tools,
so
I
think
that's
really
really
cool
with
Argo.
B
What
I
like
about
get
Ops
con
like
those
that
that
those
folks
and
those
that
Community
is
it's?
It's
really
like
just
practitioners
right,
like
best
practices
and
things
that
can
be
applied
to
you,
know
anything,
no
matter
what
you
know:
tool
you're
using
right
like
red,
hat
or
fond
of
Argo
right
we're
all
in
on
Argo,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
work
with
the
flux
folks
to
see
like.
Oh,
you
know
what
what
kind
of
best
practices
that
we
can
like
share
with
each
other,
so
I
think
that's.
B
B
B
That
was
that
it
was
kind
of
cool
as
a
room
of
25
of
us
kind
of
just
talking
about
best
practices,
and
you
know
what
we
can
do.
What
what
can
get
obsions
do
right,
I
guess,
as
you
would
put
it
Hillary,
but
that's
kind
of
like
you
know,
that's
kind
of
like
why
I'm
excited
about
you
know
I'm
coming
off
of
Argo
Khan,
but
I'm
going
into
gitopsicon,
and
you
know
it's
gonna
be
a
different
crowd,
but
a
very,
very
similar
kind
of
kind
of
things
going
on.
So.
A
Yeah,
that's
good!
That's
good!
I
I,
like
conferences
like
that
as
well
that
whole
just
sort
of
like
the
community,
the
community
of
practice,
feeling
you
know
it's
interesting,
because
I
I
wonder
I
I
think
I
feel
like
this
would
be.
That
would
be
a
better
venue
for
this
question.
The
number
one
question
I
got
at
argocon
was:
how
do
you
do
rollbacks
yeah
and
it's
like
well.
That
depends
on
a
lot
of
things
like
if
you've,
if
you've
updated
a
data
schema
and
you've
already
added
data
to
your
new
data.
A
Schema
like
a
rollback
is
just
forget.
It
just
forget
about
it
right,
whatever
you
can
yeah.
So
it's
really
like
you
know
we're
all
back
by
Rolling
forward
is
really
what
you
have
to
do
and
it's
it's
which
is
not
not
always
necessary
option,
but
so
that
was
that
was
the
one
thing
that
I
got
was
just
like
it
does.
How
do
we
do
rollbacks?
How
do
we
do
Roblox,
it's
not
really
in
there
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
other
tooling
can
help
support
rollbacks.
B
Forward,
unless,
like
the
only
time
really
that
you
can
roll
back
is
almost
immediately
yeah
like
in
a
canary
deployment
like
if
it's
you
know
you
release
10
and
it's
failing,
like
you
know
you
just
kind
of
move
the
canary
failed
right
and
you
kind
of
just
like
traffic,
those
users.
You
know
somewhere
else,
so
it's
kind
of,
like
you
know
almost
immediately
but
like
if
you
like,
spent,
like
you
said,
did
a
database.
A
Gonna
have
to
afford
it.
Yeah
also
like
exactly
comment
yeah.
If
one
thing
that
you
might
have
to
do
is
just
bump
the
version
of
your
previous
stable
release
and
then
increment
to
that,
but
it's
still
like
a
higher
higher
version,
yeah
or
whatever.
You
know
that
whatever
gets
the
state
change
in
the
way
your
your
tooling
will
expect
it,
but
basically
what
I
told
the
people
who
asked
me
this
is
like,
if
you're
looking
to
do
that
with
automation.
How
do
you
do
it
by
hand
and
like
well?
A
A
So
I'm
I'm,
curious,
I
I'm
to
see
if
in
the
next
in
the
next
con,
where
there's
kind
of
a
wider
tool
set
for
consideration
and
so
forth.
If
there's
anybody
doing
anything
interesting
with
with
rollbacks,
because
I
will
say,
look
the
problem
with
a
lot
of
software
these
days
is
that
it's
expecting
frequent
updates
and
it's
expecting
to
you
know,
experience
essentially
like
frequent
restarts
which
actually
masks
problems
with
long
term.
A
So,
if
you're
I've
seen
this
in
monolithic,
architectures
and
I've
seen
this
in
in
Cloud
native
architectures,
this
is
actually
just
a
problem
period.
When
something
is
running
for
a
duration
that
significantly
exceeds
the
duration
of
which
the
rich
it
was
tested,
new
things
about
your
runtime
and
your
operations
can
be
revealed
and
that's
how
you
can
get
into
a
situation
where
okay,
this
thing's
been
running
for
three
months,
and
ideally
you
can
still
roll
forward.
But
this
thing's
been
running
for
three
months
and
now
we've
realized
there's
a
really
critical
failure.
A
A
We
were
working
with
iot
gateways
and
one
of
the
candidate
operating
systems
that
we
were
looking
to
go
to
market
with
was
through
a
partner
and
they
provided
us
the
operating
system
image.
And
then
we
just
added
our
proprietary
software
on
top
of
it
and
they
had
their
own
requirements
and
lockdowns
and
everything.
So
apparently
they
decided
to
remove
fdisk
and
for.
A
Know
that's
like
a
that's
like
a
basically
like
a
disc
defragmenting
process
that
runs
it
that
that
runs
at
like
at
boot,
so
kind
of
goes.
Okay.
Is
there
any
like
sort
of
fragmentation
or
any
any
sort
of
like
lack
of
data
integrity
and
if
so,
we'll
run
f-disc
and
like
fix
it,
and
it's
basically
like
a
health
thing,
so
they
removed
that,
but
they
didn't
remove
the
runtime
process
to
call
on
it.
Oh.
B
A
So
it
would
go.
We
should
run
this
this
thing
to
like
check
on
our
disk
and
everything
like
do
the
health
checks,
and
then
you
know
possible
repairs
and
everything.
The
operating
system
would
detect
that
based
off
of,
like
you
know,
maybe
a
power
outage
or
something.
These
are
the
type
of
things
that
we
were
simulating
in
our
in
my
lab,
because
it
was
iot
servers,
remote
servers
that
would
be
in
people's
buildings,
and
so
it
would
restart
it
would
come
up
and
then
it
would
go
boom.
A
The
hard
drive
would
unmount
and
nothing.
The
lights
were
on.
Network
lights
would
be
blinking
power
lights
on
everything's
blinking.
Nobody
is
home,
you
could
do
a
scan
of
your
network
for
the
MAC
address,
it
would
not
appear.
You
could
plug
a
keyboard
and
mouse
into
it
and
and
monitor
nothing
would
happen.
It
was
completely
unresponsive.
The
thing
was
just
gone.
A
A
B
A
Means
that,
like
in
our
situation,
we
would
have
had,
and
actually
truthfully
did,
have
live
servers
in
the
field
that
could
only
be
recovered
by
a
physical
button
touch.
There
was
no
remote
recovery
when
it
is
that
level
of
bad.
You
want
to
roll
back
to
where
you
know
that
doesn't
happen
like
that
is.
The
immediate
instinct
is
like
okay.
Well,
we
know
that
doesn't
happen
here.
A
Let's,
let's
do
that
and
so
actually
going
like
still
figuring
out
how
to
do
a
like,
quick,
like
roll
forward
and
responsiveness
where,
like
you,
know,
you're
going
to
get
the
same
level
of
quality
as
you
knew
you
had
in
the
past,
I
get
it
that's
a
challenge
and
then
the
types
of
environments
were
like.
You
have
long
support
life
cycles
like
it's,
it's
a
nightmare
scenario.
I
know,
I,
understand,
I've
lived
it
I.
Do
that
said
painful
as
it
sounds
risky,
as
it
seems
yeah.
B
B
Forward,
it's
always
I've
always
been
a
fan
of
rolling
forward
of
yeah
unless,
because
it's
just
the
statefulness
of
certain
applications
is
just
like.
Sometimes
sometimes
you
shoot
yourself
in
the
foot
right,
like
you
said,
database
schema
change
like
that's
a
rule
forward
like
you're
gonna,
you're
gonna
have
to
call
all
your
engineers
and
fix
that
ish
issue
fast,
because,
like
you're
rolling
forward.
A
I
mean
my
best
advice
is
plan
for
it
right
plan
for
it
when
you're,
making
a
release
like
that,
that's
so
breaking
figure
out
some
way
to
build
in
some
level
of
like
backwards,
compatibility
that
you
age
out
right
and
for
it
there's
there's
figure
out
throughout
strategies
for
what
you're
going
to
do
in
case
of
absolute
disaster.
Before
you
actually
put
that
release
in
the
field,
that's
the
best.
You
can.
B
A
A
Your
jet
line,
I
meant
on
on
the
YouTube
playlist,
which
would
be
grammatically
correct
anyway.
It's
this
one
I
didn't
actually
get
to
see
wow.
It
wants
me
to
log
into
the
chat
to
be
able
to
post
it.
Thank
you,
restream
Christian
hears
this.
You
can
paste
it
I,
don't
even
understand
why,
like
I've
logged
in
to
access
this
software,
but
okay,
I,
don't
I,
don't
I'm,
not
gonna
I'm,
not
going
to
with
that
right
now
in
The,
Happening
I
didn't
get
to
watch.
This
I
did
read.
A
A
Reinvented
so
custom
plugins
for
Progressive
delivery.
That
was
that
was
the
thing
that
this
was
the
talk
that
I
thought
I
didn't
get
to
see
it,
but
it
was
I
found
like
the
whole
thing
about
the
custom,
plugins
and
obviously
Progressive
delivery
with
rollouts
is
a
really
big
thing.
That
whole
thing
I
was
like
really
curious
to
see
like
what
the
use
case
exactly
is
and-
and
you
know
everything
that
they've
they've
already
like
done
like
the
pre-work.
Basically
that.
B
A
That
was
this.
That
was
what
I
wanted
to
highlight,
because
we've
talked
about
Progressive
rollouts
on
the
stream,
we've
shown
them
a
bit.
I
know:
we've
talked
about
custom
plugins
a
little
bit
on
the
stream
as
well
and
shown
them
not
really,
but
like
shown,
the
documentation
yeah.
So
this
this
talk
was
like.
This
was
one
where
I
was
like
I
want
to
watch
this.
One
I
did
not
get
to
see
it
live
and
also
sometimes
I'm
the
worst.
A
A
B
It's
probably
very
individualistic
right.
It's
it's
very
like!
Even
if,
like
you
know,
if
two
companies
running
an
e-commerce
site,
that's
very
very
similar
may
have
different
different
things
that
they
consider
healthy
or
unhealthy,
or
you
know
so.
It's
kind
of
interesting,
like
I,
do
want
to
see
kind
of
like.
Oh,
you
know
what
what
do
they?
B
A
B
A
B
You'd
be
surprised.
Well,
you
wouldn't
be
surprised
like
you
being
in
Tech,
but
some
people
would
be
surprised.
Some
like
weird
stories
that
that
happen
because
of
tech.
Debt
like
I,
heard
one
where
some
University,
like
part
of
their
website,
went
down
because
someone
in
the
data
center
noticed
an
Xbox
and
they
kind
of
just
like
they
unplugged
it
and
took
it
home
and
and
like
but
like
it
was
running
like
it
was
like.
A
B
A
B
Oh
man
and
it
was
an
Xbox
like
like,
and
you
would
think
like
it's
an
Xbox,
so
it's
like
they
unplugged
in
like
they're,
like
oh
I'm,
gonna,
take
it
to
my
kids
or
whatever
part
of
the
website
went
down
and
they're
like,
and
then
they
tracked
it
down.
I
was
like
oh
yeah
that
we
that
server
was
running
Fedora
and
it
was
or
some
Linux
variant
and.
A
B
A
B
A
A
Yeah,
so
that
that
was
one
I
had
wanted
to
see.
That
was
really
really
interesting,
and
then
you
know
next
to
the
vendor
boots:
I'm,
not
really
sure
why
they
go
next
to
the
vendor
booths,
to
be
honest
with
you
at
kubecon,
but
next
to
the
vendor
boots,
like
kind
of
like
off
and
off
to
the
corner.
It's
like
all
the
open
source
project
booths
right
so
like
conveyor
is
there.
B
A
A
A
On
LinkedIn
that
they
were
looking
for
help
maintaining
the
python
SDK,
so
I
guess
so
yeah
dynatrace
is
involved.
I
think
flagged
is
the
name
of
the
company
that
it's
actually
their
technology
and
they've
open
sourced
it,
which
is
like
good
for
them
very
exciting
and
yeah,
and
so
that
kind
of
I
hope
I
hope
to
do
a
little
bit
more
of
a
deep
dive
on
on
that
that
project.
A
B
A
A
It's
been
a
busy
few
weeks
for
me,
I'm
hoping
to
get
back
into
the
swing
of
actually
making
meaningful
contributions
over
there,
but
it's
a
very
cool
project
and
they
have
the
python
SDK
like
I
mentioned,
also
go
Java
JavaScript,
like
you
name
it
there's
an
SDK
for
it.
So
go
check
that
out.
It's
just
open
feature
and
it's
like
a
cncf
incubated
sandbox
sandbox
is
over
cncf
sandbox
project.
A
B
A
B
A
A
B
Yeah
so
yeah,
unless
you
got
anything
else,
we
ready
to
wrap
it
up
here.
Anyone
has
comments
here,
I
think
next
time,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
next
time,
the
guys
from
Kalin
I
know
specifically
Kailyn
from
pipekit
I.
Don't
know
if
he's
bringing
anyone
else,
Kalin
from
pipekit
right
it's
coming
on.
If
you
guys
don't
know,
Pipe
kit
is
a
managed,
Argo
workflow
solution,
so
we
I,
don't
think.
We've
talked
much
about
Argo
workflows
like
I.
B
A
B
B
A
B
So
it's
gonna
be
I,
heard
a
cool
quote
and
I
think
this
Rings
true,
is
that-
and
this
is
General,
so
it's
not
just
just
Linux
Administration,
but
in
general,
so
AI
won't
replace
you.
Someone
using
AI
will
meaning
that
AI
is
just
going
to
be
just
another
tool
like
CD
or
PWD
or
LS
or
curl.
It's
just
going
to
be
a
another
tool.
B
A
A
B
A
Like
the
right
understanding
of
what
it's
doing,
compared
to
like
restore
resource
constraints,
for
you,
probably
not
like
your
AI-
might
decide.
Okay,
the
best
way
to
solve
this
is
a
is
a
recursive
algorithm
and
technically,
that
might
be
true,
except
for
recursive.
Algorithms
are
extremely
memory
intensive
and
based
on
your
data
set
and
what
you're
going
over
recursively
your
system
might
not
actually
be
able
to
do
that.
Yes,.
A
B
Because,
like
projects
because
project
wisdom
right
like
with
with
like
if
you're,
writing,
ansible
Playbook,
why
sit
there
write
ansible
Playbook
when
you
can
just
train
them
train?
You
know,
you
know,
like
chat
GPT,
to
write.
You
know
stuff
for
you
right.
You
can
just
ask
it
to
write
it
for
you
and
it
will.
And
then
you
know
you
implement
it.
It's
just
it's
that
that
kind
of
stuff-
and
there
was
a
saying
that
was
it
elevators
have
yet
to
replace
stairs
right
and
so.