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Description
Red Hat’s senior leadership is having to execute at an ever-increasing pace. That means that today's technology decisions have to balance short-term risk with long-term gains. This unique series provides host Chris Short inviting thoughtful and candid discussions with each guest.
A
Good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
evening,
wherever
you're
hailing
from
welcome
to
the
end
of
season,
one
of
in
the
clouds
with
red
hat
leadership,
I'm
joined
by
the
one
and
only
matt
hicks
he
recently
were
promoted
to
executive
vice
president
of
products
and
technologies.
So
you
have
quite
a
bit
under
you.
It
sounds
like
from
the
red
hat
perspective.
You
want
to
kind
of
explain,
you
know
how
you
got
here
and
what
you're
doing
now
as
products
and
technology
evp
right
like
not
a
lot
of
people
might
understand
that,
like
organizational
breakdown.
B
Yeah
no
sure
thing
chris
I've,
I
have
one
I've
been
a
red
hat
forever,
like
I've
been
here
for,
I
think
about
15
years.
So
I've
done
a
lot
in
red
hat
right.
But
when
we
talk
about
products
and
technologies,
it's
a
combination
of
engineering,
our
cto
office
and
our
business
unit.
So
everything
that
sort
of
goes
into
making
products
at
red
hat,
supporting
them.
Looking
at
that
from
the
business
side
as
well
as
what
we're
building
and
then
obviously
the
open
source
engagement
is
a
is
a
huge
part
of
that.
B
But
a
little
background
I
mean.
Actually
I
started
in
red
hat
on
the
I.t
side.
I've
done
a
bunch
of
roles
before,
but
that's
actually,
where
I
I
first
started
was
say
really
like
a
user
of
a
lot
of
the
red
hat
technologies
in
it
and
I
sort
of
say,
like
I
did
about
everything
there
was
to
do
an
it,
and
then
I
jumped
to
engineering
about
eight
years
ago,
and
I've
always
done
this.
Like
manager,
individual
contributor
swing
back
and
forth.
Now
I
think
I'm
sort
of
a
permanent
man.
B
Yeah,
but
I
love
coding,
like
that's
still
my
my
draw
my
favorite
thing
for
it,
but
but
it's
it's
been
a
blast.
It's
been
15
fantastic
years,
but
that's
what
I
do
day
to
day
now
is
sort
of
in
that
balance
of.
Where
are
we
investing
a
few
years
out?
What
do
we
have
on
the
truck
right
now
and
and
what's
working,
what
do
we
need
to
improve
with
customers.
A
Right
and
that
kind
of
leads
me,
you
know
one
thing:
I
I've
learned
about
red
hat
since
working
here.
It's
rare
that
coming
to
red
hat
is
the
first
time
you've
worked
with
the
red
hat
thing
yeah.
So
what
was
like
your
introduction
to
red
hat
right,
like
mine,
was
like
old,
red
hat
linux.
You
know
five
something
way
back
in
the
day.
You
know
what
was
yours
out.
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
Linux,
user
and
then
you
know,
I
ended
up
as
a
job
going
out
and
it
was
with
isv
solutions
deploying
setting
up
rel
2-1
and
that
wow
I
loved
it
like
it
was
really
like.
Oh,
this
is
like
the
passion
I
have
for
this
open
source
software
getting
to
play
out
and
making
it
work
a
customer.
So
that
was
my
first
foray
into
red
hat.
When
I
was
part
of
ibm
at
the
time.
A
Yeah,
no,
that's
that's
I
mean
we
were
building.
You
know
a
dial-up.
You
know
data
center
based
on
red
hat
linux.
Right
like
so.
You
know
the
old
isp
days
where
you
dialed
in
on
a
modem
yeah
to
connect
to
the
internet.
That's
that's!
You
know
where
I
was
using
linux.
As
a
you
know,
consumer
essentially
a
customer
yeah.
A
That's
awesome!
Right
like
I.
I
love
that
story.
The
fact
that
you're
using
rel
two
one,
what
are
some
of
those
like
lessons
learned
along
the
way
that
you
feel
like
have
stuck
with
you
even
till
now,
right
like
deploying
linux
everywhere
right,
like
you're,
I
know
you're
a
very
technical
person.
I
know
you're
very
hands-on,
so
I'm
super
curious,
like
what
skills
you
feel
like
still
apply
today,.
B
A
B
The
reason
I
know
and
I've
thought
about
this
a
lot
of
years
like.
Why
did
I
gravitate
to
this
thing
so
much,
and
then
linux
sparked
a
passion
for
open
source,
and
it
really
it
was
because
I
can
influence
this
like.
I
can
make
this
better.
If
I
put
in
the
time
I
can
patch
this
software
and
improve
it
and
similar
to
like
the
salomon
printer
story
that
you'll
hear
it's
like
as
a
consultant.
B
I
love
that
empowerment
for
it
right
and
that
actually,
like
you,
know,
you're
a
consultant.
What
was
the
next
big
wave?
It
was
java.
I
had
the
same
draw
to
jboss
and
hibernate,
because
if
I
hit
an
issue
I
could
go
figure
it
out.
Myself
like
I
didn't,
have
to
be
beholden
to
support
and
then
like
right.
You
know,
if
I
really
put
in
the
effort
I
could
patch
or
fix
or
understand
it.
A
B
It's
a
really
powerful
movement
like
that,
seeing
what
linux
has
been
able
to
do,
seeing
what
open
source
has
been
able
to
do
that
that
spark
that
I've
had
in
vid
individually.
I'm
like
that's
the
industry
spark.
I
don't
want
to
lose
like,
doesn't
matter
how
you
could
be
the
best
proprietary
model
in
the
world,
but
I
think,
if
you
sort
of
you
land
that
spark
with
people
open
source
is
just
going
to
win.
A
Yeah
and
the
the
openness
of
linux
and
then
of
red
hat
linux
itself
was
just
refreshing
at
the
time.
For
me
right
like
because
I
mean
we
probably
discovered
it
around
the
same
time
right,
given
the
the
release
numbers,
I'm
hearing
the
so
like
yeah
being
able
to
just
open
a
file
and
change
whatever
I
want
and
then
just
restart
a
service
and
boom.
It's
gonna
work.
How
I
want
like
that
was
super
empowering
at
the
time,
and
we
don't
think
about
it
like
that
anymore.
A
So
you
know
you,
you've,
you've
got
this
leadership
position
and
you
know
one
thing
that
we
I'd
like
to
address.
You
know
we
began
the
year
looking
bright-eyed
bushy-tailed
and
you
know
ready
to
take
on
the
year
ahead
and
then
this
thing
happened
called
covet
19,
you
know,
how
are
we
in
product
and
technologies?
B
B
And
then
you
go
to
red
hat,
where
we
are
60,
probably
in
engineering
already
remote
and
distributed,
and
we
work
distributing
work
in
open
source,
and
it
was
stunning
to
me
like
having
everyone
across
the
world
sort
of
like
forced
sin
home.
We
didn't
really
miss
a
beat.
So
I
think
we
actually
started
from
a
pretty
lucky
perspective
on
this,
but
then
the
challenge
with
customers
is
they
weren't
all
this
lucky
of
like?
B
A
B
B
B
A
Right,
like
a
lot
of
businesses,
had
to
kind
of
refactor
themselves,
and
you
know
my
wife
she's
on
the
board
of
my
son's
preschool
and
like
just
listening
to
the
conversations
they
had
to
have
early
on
was
just
like
wow
this,
this
school,
that's
been
around
for
75
years,
might
not
make
it
and
like
that
to
me
was
crazy
right
like,
but
you
know,
pull
pulled
things
up.
You
know
the
nose
turned
up
on
that
one
pretty
quickly.
A
You
know
so
like
that
upheaval,
you
know
being
in
google,
meet
or
teams
or
webex
or
whatever
you
know
no
travel
kind
of
deal.
You
know
it
threw
my
team
for
a
loop,
obviously,
because
you
know
look
what
we're
doing
now,
we're
doing
all
this
live
streaming
right,
so
we're
trying
to
reach
out
to
customers
in
you
know
better
more
virtual
ways
and
more
conveniently
accessible
ways
and
that's
why
we
stream
to
more
than
one
channel.
Obviously
you
know
from
the
year
right
like
as
this
is
the
last
show
of
the
year.
B
B
Nobody's
coming,
and
they
had
always
had
like
hey,
we've
got
to
make
this
shift
to
e-commerce
and
digital
like
and
actually
a
lot
of
companies
like.
We
have
to
digitally
transform
right,
and
this
was.
It
was
like
the
preschool
story
like
well
that
it
was
going
to
take
us
a
year
and
we
will
not
make
a
year.
B
You
can't
just
stop
everything
coming
in
and
that's
all
we
have
and
we
were
actually
we
were
already
a
customer.
We
already
worked
with
them
pretty
close
and
we
actually
switch
them
to
base
like
ecommerce
online
delivery.
In
seven
days,
wow
and
literally
I'm
like
a
couple
months
prior
this
was
like,
and
a
year
was
maybe.
A
A
B
A
Has
shown
us
what
is
possible
when
you
put
your
mind
to
it
right
like
the
fact
that
we've
gone
from
oh,
my
gosh,
there's
a
coronavirus
out
there
too,
hey
we're
vaccinating
people
and
12
in
less
than
12
months.
It's
just
mind-blowing
to
me
in
in
and
of
itself
all
the
other
things
that
came
along
with
that,
like
the
story
you
just
mentioned
is
absolutely
amazing,
but
we
have
a
question
from
the
audience
yeah.
A
B
This
who'd,
I
don't
ask
my
wife
that
she
would
tell
you
like
there
is
nothing
left
to
get,
but
I
will
tell
you
my
my
favorite
shift
on
this
because
it
it
took
me
a
while.
I
I
I
will
say,
like
I've,
learned
everything
that
I
use
from
youtube.
That
was
pretty
cool
for
me,
it's
like
for
me.
It
was.
I
have
to
do
summit
from
my
living
room
like
how
am
I
going
to
make
this
work
and
the
fact
that
I
could
go
look
on
youtube
and
get
detailed
setups.
B
What
people
use
was
pretty
awesome.
This
was
probably
like
my
one
innovation
type
area
so
for
anyone
that
has
has
struggled
with
this,
I
switched
to.
I
use
a
teleprompter
now
for
my
my
secondary
display
and
the
problem.
That's
an
easy
thing
to
start
on,
but
the
problem
is:
when
you
do
a
teleprompter.
A
B
B
They
have
x-ray
ender
type
things,
but
it
won't
mirror
the
screen
and
there's
a
company
called
it's
luna
display
that
will
actually
drive
an
ipad
as
your
second
monitor
and
then
it
will
teleprompter
mirror
the
text,
and
so
I'm
looking
at
you
actually
in
a
teleprompter
right
now.
So
if
you
were
going
to
ask
me
really
tough,
like
financial
questions,
I
could
just
put
notes
right
over
the
screen
and
not
have.
A
B
A
A
Yeah
I'm
the
same
way
right
like
because
I
stream
a
lot
obviously,
and
you
sit
at
home
and
you
you
appreciate
a
good
streaming
setup.
So
yeah
like
I
don't
know
what
the
next
thing
for
me
user
is
because
there's
like
a
lot
of
little
things,
I
could
go
grab
the
tweak,
but
yeah
that's
interesting.
I
like
that,
and
I
I
found
the.
B
A
Display
website,
so
I
might,
I
might
might
look
at
getting
one
of
those
so
we'll
see
so
the
the
the
this
year,
2020
right
like
covet
aside,
I
feel
like
me
personally,
I
feel
like
it
was
the
year
that
edge
and
5g
got
real
because
we're
starting
to
see
some
of
those
deployments
happen,
whereas
I
think
2019
2018
people
were
like
okay,
okay,
right,
like
okay
edge,
is
coming,
we
get
it.
5G
is
coming,
we
get
it,
so
you
know
how
are
we
ready
in
ourselves
and
we're
already
kind
of
there?
A
I
feel
like
for
this
brave
new
world
where
compute
is
actually
moving
closer
to
the
data
and
bandwidth
will
become
abundantly
available,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
see
more
processing
happening
like
at
the
sensor
level,
and
then
aggregate
data
gets
shipped
back.
You
know
in
mass
kind
of
deal
right
from
everything
your
toaster
to
your
car
and
everything
else
right.
So
what
are?
How
do
you
feel,
like
we've,
positioned
ourselves
to
to
better
that
you
know
environment
going
forward.
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
The
reason
for
that,
like
it's
one
thing
to
say,
yeah,
we
want
to
be
part
of
5g,
it's
another
to
be
able
to
go
on
like
well,
there's
5g,
vran
and
5g
core,
and
most
of
the
initial
5g
deployments
are
coupling
into
4g
core.
And
how
incredible
are
we
in
that
world
and
so
going
back?
This
dates
back
a
few
years
really
with
openstack.
For
us,
it
was
get
into
the
telcos
on
the
network
side
and
understand
with
virgin
just
so.
B
But
we
have
that
and
then
I
think
the
next
area
becomes
devices
and
if
you
go
within
the
world
of
devices,
I
think
a
pretty
key
technology.
There
is
arm
because
there's
some
standardization
devices
are
really
tough
when
there's
85
million
of
them
and
like
what
we
do
in
in
rel
and
linux,
like
it's
just
hard
to
scale
when
they're,
you
know
an
infinite
number
of
hardware
platforms
right.
B
Things
like
arm
have
really
started
to
help
that,
because
then
we
can
do
our
investment
in
a
few
areas
and
actually
have
a
chance
in
devices.
Then
I
think
the
next
thing
that's
starting
to
shift
is,
you
could
put
it
like
nvidia's
dpu
type
announcement
of
man
like
it's
not
just
so
devices
are
changing
where
it's
not
just
like
one
thing
anymore,
compute's
getting
offloaded
to
all
of
the
things.
B
B
B
Got
to
coordinate
those
two,
but
if
you
do
it
well,
I
describe
it
to
people
like
it's
sort
of.
You
know.
I
grew
up
in
the
e-commerce
internet
potential
and
I
feel
like
we're
getting
to
go
through
that
all
over
again,
like
this
combination
of
crazy,
powerful
devices,
unlimited
bandwidth,
5g,
you
know
it's
like
yeah,
hopefully,
it'll
make
cars
drive
itself
like
that
sort
of.
A
B
A
B
A
Yeah
I
have,
I
have
a
deep
love
for
arm
and
have
had
for
years
so
yeah
I'm
it's
funny.
We
compare
like
cell
phones,
smartphones
to
like
oh
yeah,
my
cell
phone's,
more
powerful
than
the
entire,
like
apollo
program
computing
wise
right,
like
I
think,
we've
already
passed
the
point
where
the
compute
was
more
powerful
than
the
shuttle
program
right.
B
A
A
B
B
If
you're
lucky
enough
to
be
successful,
your
whole
challenge
in
life
was,
it
was
scaling
them
like
how
yeah?
How
are
you
going
to
scale
this
and
the
the
groups?
We
were
scaling
them
for,
were
so
tiny
back
then,
and
yet
it
was
still
sort
of
a
major
challenge
in
it
and
and
when
I
think
of
kubernetes,
it's
sort
of
this,
like
you
know,
linux
has
this
amazing
potential
for
sort
of
a
single
box,
and
then
your
next
challenge
becomes.
B
How
do
you
take
all
of
those
boxes,
whether
they're
cell
phones
or
tiny
arm
devices
or
they're,
one
utu
servers
and
make
them
work
as
sort
of
a
single
unit
and
and
yeah,
and
I
would
say,
like
we
sort
of
got
that
up
front
with
kubernetes,
it
was
like
well,
this
is
really
going
to
work.
I
don't
know
like
there's
been
a
bunch
of
attempts
to
distribute
computing
and
for
me
it
was
when
I
was
actually
sitting
at
summit
customer.
B
I
know
really
well
is
amadeus
and
I
think
it
was
dietmar
himself
who
was
presenting
who
we
went
back
for
years
and
and
at
summit.
I've
reviewed
this
stuff
a
thousand
times,
so
I'm
just
sort
of
hoping
everybody
goes
well
and
in
his
talk
he
said,
and
I
believe
it
was
they're
doing
a
trillion
transactions
a
day
running
on
openshift,
and
I
remember
like
I
stopped
because
I
was
like.
B
A
Yeah,
a
trillion
of
anything
is
cool,
especially
when
it's
running
on
your
system.
You
know
our
software,
you
help
build
and
contribute
to
yeah.
That's
awesome!
That's
truly
amazing
when
you
think
about
it
and
that
that
company
right,
like
amadeus,
has
such
a
critical
role
and
those
transactions
are
very,
very
important
that
they
actually
occur
and
correctly
happen
right
and
it's
like
yeah
the
fact
they've
scaled
out
a
system
to
do
that
to
a
trillion
is
rather
impressive,
yeah.
A
So
the
the
the
other
piece
of
news
that
people
generally
ask
about
and
there's
a
question
in
chat
about
getting
openshift
working
on
raspberry
pi's
and
that
in
and
of
itself,
is
kind
of
like
not
a
use
case.
Openshift
is
for,
but
there
is
this
thing
called
okd
you
can
run
for
or
if
you
want
to
try
out
okd
on
a
raspberry
pi.
I
know
I've
stood
up
kubernetes
clusters
with
raspberry
pi's,
I'm
not
sure
about
okd
on
raspberry
pi's
yeah.
A
A
A
B
A
B
B
15
years
is,
is
a
huge
gap.
Rungs
and
rungs
of
leadership
had
changed
at
that
point
and-
and
I
had
a
great
impression
of
arvin.
Actually
it
was
a
few
years
ago
arvin
and
I
were
on
stage
at
summit,
announcing
our
partnership
around
openshift,
and
this
was
prior
to
the
acquisition.
So
it's
like.
Okay,
like
I
know
this
guy
and
he's
really
good.
Like
I
told
arvin
after
I
was
like
it
was
one
of
the
the
easiest,
candor
and
announcements
that
I
had
on
it.
A
B
B
You
know
a
lot
of
my
job
is
to
say
like
yes,
that
structure
or
deal
makes
sense
or
no
it
doesn't,
and
and
in
those
cases
a
lot
of
it
is
also
explaining
open
source
and
how
we
work
and
why
something
might
make
sense
and
why
something
won't
but
but
I've
loved
it
like.
It
really
has
been
a
a
phenomenon.
I
don't
want
to
say
surprisingly
phenomenal,
but
given
my
my
expectation
of
ibm,
which
is
big,
and
sometimes
you
know
when
I
was
there,
not
you
adapted
to
ibm,
not
vice
versa.
B
B
A
Yeah,
it
is
good
challenges
and,
like
I
think,
one
of
the
best
examples
is
when
we
decided
to
live
stream.
We
reached
out
to
our
friends
at
ibm
right
like
they
were
doing,
live
streaming
and
we
were
like
hey.
Can
you
help
us?
You
know
kind
of
shortcut
some
stuff,
because
we're
looking
to
do
this
too,
and
they
were
like
absolutely
we're
here
to
help.
You
know,
let's
sit
down.
Let's
talk
literally
their
streaming
team
had
a
meeting
with
my
whole
team.
A
It
was
awesome
right,
like
we
got
all
kinds
of
information
that
really
just
kind
of
short
fused
our
release
on
the
live
streaming
bit,
so
that
that
was
super
super
helpful
and
that's
my
example
of
how
they've
helped
us
scale
and
everything.
What
are
some
of
the
challenges
you
see
going
ahead
in
the
future
right
like
2021's
upon
us.
Thank
you,
2020
is
over,
but
what
are
those
things
that
you
see
on
the
horizon
that
we're
gonna
tackle.
B
B
B
A
B
Regroup
and
then
I
think-
and
this
probably
isn't
a
2021
thing,
but
we
talked
about
this
a
little
with
like
5g
changing
the
world
like
how
people
interact
with
customers.
There
are
a
lot
of
customers
going
through
like
it's
a
disruption
risk
like
if
I
don't
focus
on
this-
is
my
whole
business
gonna
get
overturned
because
somebody
does
it
better
and
then-
and
this
was
like
an
ibm
moment
for
me
right
after
5g-
I
one
of
the
best
things
with
acquisition.
B
B
Just
things
like
in
school
didn't
seem
like
they
would
ever
be
possible
and
like,
and
this
didn't
have
machines
the
size
of
a
building
hooked
up
to
it
I
mean
it's,
it
was
a
quite
elegant
machine
and
you
start
going
through
like
how
disruptive
that
will
be
as
like
the
next
phase
of
compute
and
I
think,
a
lot
of
companies
as
they
go
back
into
this
plan.
There's
this
acceleration
curve.
It's
like
look
5g
is,
is
happening
like
really
really
right.
B
B
Like
quantum
that
he
said,
maybe
it's
just
tied
to
like
how
machine
learning
works,
but
they're
gonna
upend
everything
again
like
when
I
spent
my
dive
into
quiz
kit
like
let
me
apply
what
I
know
to
quantum
like
none
of
it
applies
it's
all.
I
I
did
computer
engineering
right
and
I
felt
like
I
was
going
back
to
like
a
weird
vhdl
type
circuit
design,
and
it
I
think
there
is
a
challenge
like
there's
so
many
technology
disruption
waves
on
the
horizon.
B
It
can
be
a
little
bit
hard
to
plan
because
companies
plan
for
how
do
they
not
get
disrupted
with
technology
and
man.
It's
just
tough
to
understand
where
you're
going
to
put
your
next
stake
in
the
ground
like
is
it
is
your
gamble
on
5g?
Is
your
gamble
on
quantum?
Is
your
gamble
on
ai?
If
you
can't
bet
on
all
of
them?
What
do
you
do,
but
that
that
I
think,
will
be
a
an
upcoming
challenge
I
mean
for
us.
We
try
to
focus
a
lot
on
like
if
you
bet
on
red
hat.
B
And
if
it's
ai,
like
we,
can
bring
you
to
ai,
if
it's
like,
as
quantum
matures
like,
we
will
bring
you
through
openshift
to
quiz
kit.
To
those
you
know
augmentation,
but
I
think
that'll
be
a
real
customer
challenge
like
we
just
got
out
of
a
global
pandemic
and
this
technology
evolution
does
not
stop
like.
A
A
Yeah
we're
already
seeing
some
people
talking
about.
Like
quantum
you
know,
quantum,
safe,
cryptography
and
yeah,
all
the
all
the
things
that
are
gonna,
you
know
come
with
that
age.
We
need
to
be
ready
for
it
like
before.
It
happens,
right
yeah,
because
you
know
if
you're
encrypting
things
with
you
know,
dez
or
whatever
you
know
something
way,
archaic
right
like
overnight.
Your
thing
will
be
cracked
by
a
come
on
computer
and
like
that,
I
think,
is
awesome
like
awesomely.
A
Powerful
computing
can
also
be
very
scary
to
some
people
so
like
having
to
yeah
like
having
to
make
that
transition
is
going
to
be
very
interesting
and,
like
I
know
some
people
on
the
quiz,
good
team,
they're,
awesome,
they're
doing
a
really
great
job
of
trying
to
you
know
help
developers
you
know,
take
what
they
have
and
get
to
where
they
need
to
be
right
like
and,
and
that's
going
to
be,
a
transition
for.
All
of
us
right
like
just
like
64-bit
computing
was
but
like
on
steroids.
It
feels
like.
B
It
is,
and
it's
one
of
those
things
like
it's,
both
a
disruptor
and
an
amplifier
like
because
I
I
worry
a
little
bit
of
like
I
don't
know
how
much
people
think
of
like
well,
if
ssl
just
goes
away
or
it's
it's
not
secure
anymore,
like
how
much
does
that
up
end
and
what
we've
come
to
build
on
in
that
I've
been
happy.
I'm
like,
I
think,
before,
that's
a
reality.
B
We'll
have
approaches,
but
it's
that's
a
disruptive
change
and
then,
on
the
other
side,
I'm
like
what,
if
probability-based
like
machine
learning
training
just
happens
instantaneously
like
it's
sort
of
equally
exciting.
Equally
terrifying
like
these
are
big
changes
like
64-bit.
For
me,
it's
like
those
worlds
lived
in
parallel
for
a
pretty
long
time.
A
B
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
probably
some
people,
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
waiting
for
the
day
right
like
that
quantum's
going
to
take
over
right,
so
I
mean
a
quantum
laptop.
I
just
keep
thinking
about
it's
like
that's
going
to
happen,
and
it's
like
how
does
that
happen
right,
like
there's,
there's
all
this
stuff
that
has
to
change
to
make
that
happen,
and
it's
gonna
be
so
wild
to
just
be
part
of
it
right
yep.
So
I
it's
it's
not
scary
to
me.
A
B
A
So,
there's
always
that
the
the
the
struggle
I
think
people
are
gonna
have,
though,
is
where
do
I
use
it
first
right
like
what
applications
are
gonna
benefit
most
from
quantum
and
and
that's
where
I
kind
of
get
fuzzy
right
like
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
stock
trading
or
if
it's
you
know
what
kind
of
compute
workload
gets
thrown
on
quantum,
I
have
no
idea
right,
like
it's
the
stuff
we're
throwing
at
gpus
now
what
gets
processed
on
a
quantum
computer
you
know,
is
it
genomics?
Is
it
medications?
I
don't
know.
B
Yeah,
now
that
it
is,
it
is
a
yeah.
I've
thought
a
lot
about
like
the.
What
are
the
probability-based
problems
like?
What
problem
are
you
comfortable
saying
like
if
you
can
tell
me
really
fast
that
this
is
like
99
chance?
This
is
right.
What
does
that
change
and
how
we
do
computing
and
it's
it
for
me,
it's
sort
of
like
the
5g
thing
like
I
know,
a
lot
is
going
to
change
with
that
moment.
Someone
described
quantum
to
me.
I
think
very
elegantly,
we're
there.
It's
like
you
know
the
way
classical
computing
works.
A
B
B
Where
I'm
like
wow
people
are
gonna,
do
crazy
stuff
with
this
and
I'm
an
optimist.
I'm
like
I'm
similar
to
you.
I'm
like
it's
gonna,
be
crazy.
Good,
like
it'll,
be
hard
to
it'll
be
hard
to
like
ride
that
wave.
But
but
I'm
excited,
I
think,
more
good
than
bad
will
come
out
of
it.
But
it's
wild
to
be
living
through
this
time
or
like
we're.
Gonna
have
a
few
of
these
right
in
our
lifetime.
B
A
A
B
A
To
an
extent
you
know
you
can
kind
of
get
an
idea
of
it
and
that's
what
we're
all
about
here
is
trying
to
help
people.
You
know
figure
out
where
to
go
in
the
future.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
like
just
contribute
to
the
conversation
or
just
say
before
we,
you
know
sign
off
to
everybody,
and
you
know,
wish
everybody
a
happy
new
year
and
everything.
B
B
But
I
I
always
like
the
you
know:
20
20
has
been
a
pretty
like
tough
year
in
all
regards,
but
like
finding
some
positive
aspect
of
like
how
what
can
we
take
away
from
it?
What
can
we
change?
What
can
we
do
better,
not
just
in
the
tech
side
but
like
how
we
interact,
how
we
interact
with
global
teams?
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of.
B
A
A
I
do
too,
and
you
know
thank
you
to
everyone
that
has
live
stream
before
I
did
same
same
sentiment
right,
like
I've
learned
so
much
from
all
of
you
right,
like
I've
watched
stream
after
stream
after
stream,
trying
to
learn
new
things,
new
ways
to
do
things
or
you
know
better
ways
to
communicate
on.
You
know
certain
mediums
or
platforms,
and
just
thank
you
all
so
much
right
like
live
streaming
has
been.
A
You
know
my
job
since
may,
basically,
and
it
it
has
gotten
me
through
covet
for
lack
of
a
better
term
right,
like
you
say
it's,
your
coveted
thing
it's
same
for
me
right,
but
it's
actually
my
my
job
to
kind
of
put
the
content
and
the
channel
together.
So
it's
it's
been
very
it's
a
new
learning
experience
for
everyone
I
feel
like,
but
it
has
been.
A
You
know
it
has
created
virtual
events
that
create
some
accessibility
right,
like
yeah
we've
seen
virtual
events
go,
you
know
from
you
know,
physical
to
virtual
overnight
kind
of
deal
right
and
and
live
streaming.
I
think
is
the
next
evolution
of
the
virtual
event
right,
like
we're
going
to
have
to
incorporate
some
kind
of
live
element
to
it.
Right
like
we
can't
have
100
pre-bake
talks
and
then
just
have
the
speakers
sitting
in
the
room
afterwards
right,
like
they're,
gonna,
there's
gonna
be
a
lack
of
appreciation
for
that
kind
of
interaction
from
the
speaker's
side.
A
I
think,
and-
and
you
know
doing
it
live-
has
a
much
much
more
tactile
feel
to
it.
Even
if
you
are
talking
into
you
know
a
camera
lens,
I'm
I'm
still
getting
feedback
from
the
audience
from
chat
and,
and
you
and
everybody
else
that
might
be
you
know
tuned
in
on
the
backs
on
the
back
channel
kind
of
deal
so
yeah.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
the
last
show
of
the
year.
You
know.
A
Thank
you
so
much
it
is.
It
has
been
a
team
effort.
I
have
to
thank
my
boss,
chris
morgan,
for
like
putting
together
the
schedule.
It's
just
an
amazing
season,
one
schedule,
just
in
general
with
the
people
that
we
interviewed
right
like
so.
Thank
you
very
much
to
chris
morgan
for
that,
and
thank
you
for
being
the
the
end
cap
on
the
on
the
year
for
us,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
conversation
today.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
stay
safe
out
there.
Everybody
you
know
stay
healthy,
have
a
good
time
this
you.