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From YouTube: KBE Insider Detroit - Daniel Oh, Red Hat
Description
Catch another episode of KBE Insider with Daniel Oh, Developer Advocate at Red Hat and CNCF Ambassador. Daniel shares inspiration he gathers from KubeCon and all the innovative new technologies being showcased for the first time at KubeCon. He also updates us on Konveyor, now a CNCF Sandbox Project, to help accelerate application modernization to Kubernetes. Tune in to this episode and learn more about the Konveyor open source project and how you can contribute.
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Thousand
yeah
and
then
14
000
in
the
opportunity
expected,
but
just
not
only
the
registration
yeah,
but
but
you
never
know
how
many
people
actually
show
up
yeah
exactly
so
yeah,
typically
maybe
50
or
60.
But
you
know
also
yesterday
we
co-lo
located
event
a
bunch
of
a
lot
of
stuff
and
then
we
saw
a
lot
of
people
actually
I
showed
up.
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A
Yeah
I
did
the
little
conference.
I
do
Dev
confused.
We
were
really
on
the
fence,
but
we
we
decided
to
make
them
optional
because
it
was
the
like
target.
Audience
was
local
yep
and
Boston
had
pretty
good
numbers,
so
we
were
kind
of
comfortable
doing
that
and
you
know
we
got
away
with
it.
I'm
not
sure
it
was
I
still
feel
like
I'm,
not
sure
it
was
the
right
choice,
but
it
was,
you
know
it
ended
up
working
out.
Okay,
yeah.
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Exactly
yeah,
so
conveyor
is
just
help
people
to
go
on
their
application,
modernization
Journey.
So
that's
why
the
conveyor
project
comp
and
combines
the
multiple
projects,
for
example,
how
to
assess
your
application
portfolio
or
architecture,
not
even
the
application
itself,
but
also
in
practice,
career
and
also
analog
application
code
itself
and
then
give
some
a
tape
and
then
like
a
guide,
how
to
modernize
them
and
modify
your
application
and
configuration
itself.
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A
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A
Right
right
so
so
you
know,
however,
like
if
you're
going
from,
like
a
you,
know,
a
traditional
application
and
you
want
to
go
towards
like
a
serverless
application.
That's
still
going
to
require
a
fair
amount
of
re-architecture
for
the
app
right.
I
mean,
like
I,
think
conveyor
is,
is
really
kind
of
trying
to
bring
the
same
application
kind
of
to
the
cloud
rather
than
you
know,
considering
a
re-architecture
as
much
right,
yeah.
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B
So
there
are
showcase
the
multiple
steps
like
a
long-term
plan
and
then
first
thing
you're
going
to
start
with
this
one
and
then
and
then
also
you
can
have
some
plan
for
the
next
six
months
for
the
Admiral
Jason,
not
only
re-architecture,
but
also
maybe
small
change
the
application.
Like
a
Strangler
pattern,
you
can
keep
making
your
approaching
bottom
stable.
However,
you
can
keep
evolving
your
the
architectural
platform.
That's
like
that.
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B
B
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You
can
you
can
do
that
re-architecture
potentially
in
pieces,
so
you
can
kind
of
say:
okay,
let's
just
pull
this
one
feature
out,
move
it
to
more
of
a
serverless
architecture.
You
know
and
then,
but
you
still
have
all
the
rest
of
it
kind
of
already
running
in
the
same
like
kubernetes,
cluster
or
whatever.
So
they
can.
You
know
community
indicate
and
all
that
jazz,
so
I
think
it
really
does
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
to
be
able
to
run
it.
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A
B
Amazon
kubernetes
service
center,
AKs
or
eks,
or
the
Google
Cloud
platform,
and
that
things
you
know
things
a
lot
of
are
challenging
for
them,
because
a
lot
of
companies
actually
move
forward
to
multi-cloud
or
hybrid
Cloud
strategies
and
then,
which
means
that
we're
not
going
to
go
to
only
Amazon
so
but
the
but
still
you're,
going
to
still
use
the
kubernetes
as
a
container
platform.
Right.
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You
know
doing
doing
your
initial
layout
makes
it
so
that
you're
less
likely
to
get
accidentally
kind
of
vendor
locked
I
mean
I,
know
for
me.
It's
you
know,
I
I,
think,
or
at
least
I
assume
right
that
a
lot
of
organizations
you
know
only
end
up
vendor
locked
by
accident
like
they
don't
they,
they
don't
intend
to
be
using
the
feature
set.
That
is
required
to
keep
them
in
Amazon
or
whatever
yeah
so
I
think
it's
really
good
to
have
a
little
bit
of
an
independent.
B
Player
yeah
that
that's
that's
a
real
story
and
then
even
that
people
doesn't
know
that
we
already
locked
in
because
the
the
feature
set
is
pretty
comparable
to
use
that
because
you
don't
need
to
run
something
new
and
then
there
are
just
some
low
learning
paths
and
then
you
just
start
it
and
you
get
use
that
kind
of
stuff
right.
But
in
the
end,
after
six
months,
oh
we
got
locked
in
so
we
never
have
a
chance
to
go
to
the
other
kubernetes
cluster
right.
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Even
if
it's
a
kubernetes,
it's
the
steel
open
source
Community,
but
we
cannot
go
there.
It's
just
pretty
weird.
So
that's
kind
of
thing
and
by
the
way
this
is
cool,
I
mean
it's
cute
by
example:
yeah
yeah,
so
pretty
much
the
first,
the
inside
the
car
and
the
interview
right,
yeah
and
they're
pretty
awesome,
and
then
the
weather
is
really
cold.
Today,.
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And
you
know
obviously
there's
some
presents
at
kubecon
and
all
that
jazz,
so
yeah,
one
of
the
people
involved
with
the
program
who
actually
has
been
on
The
Insider,
show
yeah
to
talk
about
the
the
like
the
new
forums
and
stuff.
She
came
up
with
the
idea
and
I
was
like
oh
yeah,
I'm
totally.
All
in
let's,
let's
go,
you
know,
drive
around
and
interview
people
so
yeah,
but
you
know
we
got
to.
B
Yeah
sure
so
I
want
to
shout
out
once
again
it's
a
cute
calling
if
you
have
any
chance
to
stop
by
the
qcon
this
week,
yeah
and
then
thanks
for
the
forward,
and
then
they
actually
support
us
to
make
this
happening.
It
was
nice
car
and
the
random.
Actually
you're
gonna
did
like
a
tall
area
about
for
the
success
story,
with
some
kind.
A
Pretty
cool
so
how
Ford
is
doing
using
Q
by
example,
with
their
developers
to
try
to
kind
of
bring
them
to
you
know
doing
development,
the
the
cloud
native
way
and
so
yeah.
When
we
heard
about
it,
we
were
like
hey.
That's
a
great,
you
know,
that's
a
great
story
for
you
know,
for
both
kubecon
and
for
cube
by.
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A
B
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B
Right
yeah,
exactly
thanks
for
sharing
that,
so
we
have
the
opportunity
Commons
and
then
we
call
hosting
like
a
conveyor
Workshop.
So
not
only
a
showcase.
What
conveyor
is
and
then
what
is
the
road
map,
but
also
we
give
it
on
people
have
some
handling
experience
and
how
to
start.
You
know
what
the
conveyor
looks
like.
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So
it's
good
just
one
hour,
even
but
after
the
workshop,
if
you
you
could
visit
a
Cuba
example
or
reach
out
to
any
red
header,
and
then
you
can
go
to
like,
even
if
you
have
a
chance
to
stop
by
a
coupon
anytime
swing
by
a
red
hat
boots.
We
are
more
than
happy
to
share
the
more
details,
but
once
so
again,
today
we're
gonna
start
at
nine,
but
the
angel
Workshop
is
starting
10.,
it's
a
one
hour,
but
it's
be
should
be
fun
because,
but
don't
forget,
bring
your
Red
Top.
A
B
Yeah
yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question,
so
the
workshop
is
I'm
gonna
make
it
available,
but
so
you
can
actually
the
old
Workshop
content
is
available
in
the
public
repo.
However,
so,
if
you
ask
any
red
hands
to
sell
the
folks
and
then
we
are
more
than
happy
to
support
and
provide
the
workshop
environment
for
free,
oh
yeah,
we're
gonna
go
to
your
customer
site
where
we're
going
to
bring
you
into
one
of
the
red
hat
office
just
to
just
spare
with
us
like
a
half
day
well
full
day.
B
We
are
more
than
happy
to
yeah
and
there's
not
only
conveyor,
but
also.
We
also
have
like
a
SRE
track
and
a
business
track
as
well.
It's
not
going
to
hang
John
though,
but
so
business
track.
We're
gonna
totally
be
more
like
the
strategy
and
then
like
a
planning
right
how
to
go
to
your
cloud
and
not
only
hang
on
stuff
yeah.
A
I
mean
I
think,
to
be
honest,
right,
I.
Think
a
lot
of
developers
don't
kind
of
fully
appreciate
the
importance
of
like
essentially
like
a
project
portfolio
or
like
a
you
know.
When
I
was
in
Consulting,
one
of
the
things
we
specialized
in
was
actually
doing.
You
know
portfolio
road
maps.
You
know
around
modernization
in
particular,
it
was
like
the
early
days
of
the
cloud,
and
so
we
were,
you
know,
kind
of
come
in
and
actually
help
them
plan
how
they
were
going
to
get.
A
You
know
all
their
existing
applications
and
and
also
try
to
recognize
all
the
new
applications
they
were
building
and
how
they
were
going
to
get
them
into
the
cloud,
and
you
know
it
gave
me
a
real,
strong
appreciation
for
like
how
how
hard
that
is.
You
know
to
to
really
understand
it
and
and
the
value
there,
because,
if
you're,
if
everybody's
kind
of
going
all
directions
all
at
the
same
time,
you
never
get
anywhere,
you
know
yeah,
so
I
think
that's
actually
a
pretty
valuable
component.
A
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
about
the
workshop
was
like
I've,
been
trying
to
stand
up
this.
This
data
server
called
c-can
yeah
and,
like
it's
so
nice,
to
have
an
expert
kind
of
show
you
how
to
do
something.
The
first
time
yeah,
you
know
where,
like
you
know,
I'm
just
trying
to
like
fight
through
the
docs
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
work.
A
You
know,
and
and
like
there's
all
that
stuff
you
get
from
experience
that
you
that
you,
it's
just
impossible
to
document
about
like
what's
the
right
way
to
set
it
up,
you
know,
what's
the,
what
are
the
tricks?
What
am
I
going
to
forget
later
I
have
to
re-architect
later
and
I
think
it
makes
a
big
difference
if
you
can
have
somebody
who's
kind
of
showing
you
the
ropes
and
then,
when
you
run
into
a
problem,
you
can
kind
of
ask
the
question
right.
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A
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B
B
A
A
A
Gets
handed
it
right
and
you're
like
wait.
What
so
I
think
you
know
kind
of
going
back
to
conveyor?
It's
like?
Hopefully,
that's
providing
some
of
that.
You
know
magic
happens
here
component
as
well
as
it
seems
particularly
well
suited
to
kind
of
portfolio
planning
right
I
mean
the
entire
tool
is
about.
You
know
doing
that
kind
of
movement,
yeah.
B
That's
that's
100
agree,
so
it's
just
showcase
the
variety
of
the
approaches,
how
to
add
memorization,
but
just
like
a
portfolio.
So
some
some
part
of
that
is
handed
by
developer
and
some
part
of
the
means
by
like
a
decision
maker
and
then
the
rest
of
them
is
by
SRV
or
platform
Engineers
yeah
and
in
the
end
you
can
combine
all
needs
and
requirement
even
potential
issue.
You
can
handle
that
by
your
cross
teams.
Yeah.
That's
the
beauty
of
the
computer
project
right
to
help
them.
B
A
B
With
so
that's
a
really
good
question,
so
you
know
also
I
most
likely
focus
on
some
kind
of
more
realistic
practice.
For
example,
yeah
I'm
I
want
to
say
I'm,
just
like
a
ordinary
Java
guys,
and
then
the
problem
is,
there
are
many
Java
applications
around
the
world
and
even
across
Industries
and
it
problem
is
everybody
wants
to
go
to
cloud
in
kubernetes
or
someone
stop
and
what
is
the
best
practice
to
integrate
record
some
brand
new
technology?
B
For
example,
oh
I
can
deploy
my
application
to
cloud
or
kubernetes,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
integrate
my
application
deployment
or
build
strategy
or
practice
with
the
existing
cicd,
or
we
have
a
cicd
like
a
junkies
right.
It's
10
years
old,
grown
man,
however,
in
the
kubernetes,
maybe
it's
too
old.
So
what
is
your
new
kind
of
stuff
like
a
tech
tone
or
artistic?
B
A
B
A
B
Putting
their
business
services
into
cloud
with
integration
I
would
be
like
some,
the
first
world
record,
the
get-offs
and
then
like
a
serverless
and
service
mesh,
because
some
people
say:
oh,
that's
not
my
responsibility,
it's
more
like
for
them,
but
it's
not
true,
because
we
are
working
together
as
a
team
or
Not
by
like
individual
contributor
right
yeah.
That's
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
evangelize
the
cassava
less
and
the
services
mesh
and
get
off
stuff,
yep
yeah,
with
the
of
course
kubernetes
and
then
most
likely
not
going
to
try
to
just
presentation.
B
It's
more
create
more
value
of
a
Content
like
a
demo
and
hinge
on
and
then
like
a
sample
code,
which
means
that
everyone
just
can't
replicate
it
there.
If
you
didn't
want
yeah,
that's
what
I'm
looking
forward
and
then
you
know
also
I
so
thankful,
because
I
got
so
many
inspiration
during
the
kill
call.
Even
if
some,
the
exhibit
I
mean
the
Boost
area.
So
there
are
so
many
vendors,
and
so
many
people
actually
showcase
their
new
stuff
right
right.
You
know,
based
on
that's.
B
Yeah
and
then
I
just
I
just
know,
and
then
what
is
a
trend
is
so,
for
example,
the
year
ago,
in
the
qcon,
Los
Angeles
and
then
I
saw
a
lot
of
vendors
actually
try
to
Showcase
their
multi-cloud,
oh
yeah
problem
and,
of
course,
migration
tool
from
these
kubernetes
and
that
kubernetes
right-
and
this
is
actually
one
of
the
capability
conveyor
as
well.
So
and
then
this
is
some
kind
of
trend.
What
people
really
want
to
showcase,
which
means
that
there
is
a
market
Trend
in
their
knees
came
out.
B
So
this
is
a
really
really
good
opportunity
to
figure
it
out
what
technology
really
interesting
by
ecosystem
pacifically
coupon,
that's
one
of
the
big
reason.
I
always
wanted
to
be
attend.
The
qcon
right,
I,
don't
need
like
an
ambassador
stuff,
but
also
it's
more
like
a
interaction
right.
People
right.
B
A
We
do
we
we
try
to.
We
actually
offer
attendee
training
yeah,
because
you
know
if
it's
your
first
conference,
whatever
like
what
is
the
hallway
track
and
and
I
I
think
it's
really
important
to
like
kind
of.
As
you
say,
it's
like
that's
half
the
value
right
is
like
getting.
You
know
getting
to
see
people
you
don't
see
very
often
you
know
maybe
getting
to
meet.
You
know
some
engineer
who
works
on
a
thing
that
you
care
a
lot
about
and
I
think
that's
a
that's
a
huge
part.
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A
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
B
B
A
A
A
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
Technology
right
right.
Well,
it's
funny
because
that's
in
some
ways
a
lot
of
people
say
it's
the
same
motivation
as
an
open
source.
Yeah,
it's
like
you!
You
get
into
open
source
because
you
want
to
scratch
your
own
itch
right.
It's
like
something
about
the
computer
is
making
you
crazy,
so
you
go
fix.
It.
B
Right,
that's
exactly
reminds
me
it's
because
of
when
I
just
started,
like
my
son's
age,
like
a
10
years
boy,
when
I
was
there
so
I
just
started
in
a
computer
stuff
for
fun,
yeah,
not
or
some
some
kind
of
a
purse
right,
yeah
so
and
then
at
a
time
I'm
so
enjoyed
spending
my
time
to
make
some
programming
stuff
right
right,
all
right,
I'm
here
and
then
hopefully
you
gotta
next
who's.
The
next
big.