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From YouTube: KBE Insider Detroit - Chris Short, AWS
Description
We catch up with Chris Short, Sr. Developer Advocate at AWS, in his hometown while in Motor City for KubeCon Detroit. This fun car ride covers talk on tech bags and local Detroit tidbits to the importance of contributing to open source. Chris shares what he’s been up to at AWS, CNCF, and gives a few shout-outs to some folks who have made a difference in the community that you may not know of yet, so watch this episode and learn more!
A
Right
and
you
know,
thanks
for
coming
on
the
show
I
still
can't
quite
get
over-
that
we
first
met
in
person.
What
two
days
ago,
yesterday,
two
days.
B
Ago,
two
days
ago,
which
is
which
is
considering
everything,
yeah
right,
yeah
and.
A
Did
you
realize
I
didn't
realize
this
until
much
later,
like
a
few
months
ago?
You
know
our
last
show
together
on
the
level
up
hour,
was
the
42nd
episode?
Are.
A
I
totally
I
didn't
even
like
notice
it
at
the
time
but
yeah
it
was
the
42nd
episode
that.
B
A
Another
one
right
right,
but
yeah
and
I
was
I,
was
just
talking
to
Christian
and
they
were
planning
on
doing
they're
gonna
end
the
get
UPS
Guide
to
the
Galaxy
and
they're
gonna
end
it
on
the
42nd
episode,
which
is
what.
A
Particularly
for
that
show
name
right
right,
but
I,
just
I
thought
it
was
particularly
hilarious.
So
what
we
were
talking
about
a
little
bit
before
the
show
yeah
so
I
have
a
Timbuk2
bag
which
I
didn't
realize
it
was
a
gift
to
me.
Oh
those
are.
B
A
It
was
like
a
kind
of
hey
you're,
leaving
gift
right
from
my
team
and
and
I
didn't
remember
that
they
had
a
lifetime
warranty
on
stuff.
Oh.
B
A
And
so
the
interior,
like
the
lining
the
inside,
was,
was
starting
to
go
bad,
whatever
yeah
and
so
I
was
like
so
I
looked
in
there
I
was
like
finally,
I
was
like
I'll
go
see,
maybe
I
can
get
it
fixed.
You
know,
I
really
like
the
bag
and
yeah,
so
I
sent
it
to
him
and
yeah.
It
turns
out
if
it's
covered
by
warranty,
it's
free,
but
if
it's
not
covered
by
warranty,
it's
twenty
five
dollars.
Oh
I'm,
like
okay,
wait
a
minute
I,
don't
care
like
25
I,.
A
B
A
So
it's
supposed
to
arrive
at
home
today,
but
right
now,
I'm
carrying
a
Patagonia
backpack
that
I
got
from
Red
Hat,
like
95
of
all
my
other
things.
B
A
But
I'm
not
a
fan
of
it,
you
know
it
doesn't
have
enough.
Pockets
right,
I
think
is
my
problem
with
it.
So.
A
Oh
interesting,
yeah,
yeah
so
yeah,
because
I've
actually
was
looking
into
it.
A
little
bit
and
I
would
definitely
take
recommendations
because
my
daughter
is
not
supposed
to
carry
a
backpack
anymore,
because
she's
had
some
bone
issues
and,
and
so
I
was
thinking
about
trying
to
get
her
a
roller
bag.
It
is
also
she's
in
high
school.
So
the
worst
possible,
like
you,
know,
choice
but
I
was
wondering
if
you'd
seen
anything
cool,
but
it
sounds
like
me.
B
B
Yeah
I
don't
want
to
join
to
Amazon
and
I
haven't
looked
since,
but
I
really
wanted
so
I
did
when
I
was
searching,
I,
tagged,
Timbuktu
and
Away
bag.
Oh.
A
If
it
was
kind
of
cool,
you
know
because
again
she's
a
15
year
old,
high
schooler
right.
A
B
B
Right,
it's
actually
like
it's
taking
something
from
the
web
development,
World,
lazy
loading,
because
you
can
lazy,
load
images
on
your
website
right
that
way.
It
doesn't
affect
your
like
Google,
whatever
score
yep,
but
you
lazy
load,
your
images
and
you
can
lazy
load
your
layers
now
Oh
by
layer,
yeah.
B
Down
and
you.
A
Which
is
awesome
and
and
kind
of
yeah
and
and
like
almost
in
the
sense
of
like
best
practice
but
orthogonal
to
I
think
what
people
feel
like
they
should
do.
You
know,
because
you
know,
obviously,
if
you
have
multiple
layers
right,
you're
rebuilding
like
less
stuff,
you
know
as
regularly.
B
But
that's
I
mean
you're
like
basically
like
in
an
AIML
concept.
You're
only
changing
your
model.
B
A
Right
well,
I
mean
you
know
one
of
the
things
you
know
I've
actually
done
in
the
past
few
days.
Right,
let's
talk
about
like
one
of
the
cool
things
about
open
source
right
is
a
lot
of
people
get
into
it
to
scratch
their
own
itch
right.
So
right,
Amazon
had
it
it's
they
needed
to
scratch.
So
they
built
this
thing.
That.
A
It
seems
like
it'd,
be
really
cool
for
me
yeah.
You
know
whether
I'm
using
it
with
you
know
in
Amazon's
infrastructure
or
not,
which
is
but
yeah.
It's
really
cool.
It.
A
It
is
right,
exactly
yeah.
No,
it's
it's
a
cool
idea
like
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
know
in
in
kind
of
retrospect,
it
kind
of
makes
sense,
but
at
the
same
time
it's
like
I
have
to
like
Let
It
percolate
in
my
brain
for
a
while
for
like
how
could
I
take
advantage
of
this.
B
B
Yeah
so
like
well,
that
makes
sense,
I,
guess
yeah,
so
like
basically,
if
you're
using
one
that
has
streaming
oci
enabled,
which
I'm
sure
will
be.
You
know
a
thing
soon
right
for
a
few
of
the
you
know,
Registries
that
are
out
there.
A
A
Right
right
well,
and
on
top
of
that,
like
I,
mean
you
know
I
personally,
it's
one
of
those
things
where
this
is.
One
of
you
know
those
places
where
you
know
sys
admins
do
something
kind
of
dangerous
by
default,
where
I
feel
like
there's
not
enough
rebuilding
of
the
layers
in
general
yeah,
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
to
be
true,
but
kind
of
anecdotal
evidence
seems
to
indicate
that
you.
B
Know
people
are
not
turning
their
stuff
over
often
enough
speaking
of
anecdotal
evidence
not
to
plug
my
own
content,
but
yeah
yeah.
This
is
actually
Germaine
to
kubernetes.
I
was
at
Dev
Upstate
Chicago,
again,
probably
one
of
the
best
Dev
off
days
in
the
country.
You
know
Detroit's
up
there.
Obviously
Minnesota's
up
there
Boston's
a
good
one
right,
so
I
did
an
open
space
container
conundrums.
Tell
me
your
pain
points,
managing
containers,
interesting.
A
B
It's
on
my
website,
Chris
short.net,
it's
the
first
blog
post
right
now,
okay-
and
it's
just
notes
from
that
open
session,
and
we
had
like
25
people
in
the
room
and
there
was
there
was
one
company
I
need
to
tell
you
about.
That
was
just
like.
Oh
my
gosh,
and
then
there
was
quite
a
few
companies
where
it's
like.
Are
you
enforcing
least
privileges?
Are
you
enforcing
any
kind
of
policy?
And
the
answer
was
just
flat
out
no
right
right,
which,
from
a
you
know,
world
of
supply,
chain
security,
freaking
out
yeah?
Oh
hey,
squirrel,.
A
We
get
a
lot
of
them
in
Boston,
too,
there's
actually
a
full-time
job
of
a
person
who,
like
scares
off
the
geese
on
there's
basically
like
a
strip
of
you,
know,
kind
of
walkable
area
kind
of
like
you
know
it's
like
a
waterfront
strip
out
of
that
area,
because
the
the
goose
Boop
is
so
hard
on
the
grass
and.
A
B
B
A
B
But
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
very
interesting
stuff
in
downtown
Detroit,
like
on
a
walking
tour.
It's
very
easy
to
point
out
we're
on
a
driving
tour.
A
B
B
Community
yep
is
geese:
oh
hey,
geese
yeah
like
do
they
okay,
they
do
move
out
of
the
way,
eventually
yeah.
So
like
we
have
wild
turkeys
up
where
I
live.
We.
B
B
Sometimes
yeah
yeah
and
you
know,
and
they're
very
aggressive
yeah.
A
B
B
B
B
It
kind
of
fell
out
of
maintenance
and
we
had
to
like
fix
it
right.
Another
group
of
people
right
got
smart
on
it
and
fixed
it.
So
it's
like
it's
a
great
way
to
bring
people
on
board
and
I
got
like
and
the
reason
I'm
mentioning.
This
is
because
yesterday
morning,
I
woke
up
to
somebody
who
was
working
in
contributor
comms
and
like
I,
was
one
of
the
sponsors
to
get
them
onboarded.
Oh
yeah,.
A
A
A
A
A
B
And
random,
nice,
okay
cool,
but
the
that
the
contributor
experience
team
right
like
we
see
how
get
like
what
pressure
we
put
on
get
yeah.
B
But
like
Salesforce
is
always
like,
or
slack
I
should
say,
is
always
like
hey.
Can
you
help
us
out
like?
Is
there
any
way
you
could
reduce
this
number
and
like
we,
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
back
and
forth
with
both
GitHub
and
slack
to
you
know
kind
of
help
out
our
environment
overall
right.
So
now
it's
come
full
circle.
The
GitHub
people
are
showing
up
and
saying.
A
B
Like
I've
been
around
kubernetes
long
enough
and
this
particular
Sig
long
enough
to
kind
of
know
where
everything
is
right
right,
you
know,
move
the
knobs
and
dials
and
such
you
know,
I
was
talking
to
Kim,
McMahon
and
caslin
Fields
part
of
the
contributor
comms
team
about
like
hey.
Maybe
we
could
ask
cncf
if
they
had
some
money
to
like
just
do
the
writing
for
us
and
we
interviewed
the
Sig
leads
and
they
do
a
blog
post
for.
A
B
B
B
B
B
A
Like
the
old,
you
know,
you
know,
request
for
comment.
A
Know
even
though,
like
you
know
not
a
lot
of
people
even
know
what
the
ITF
is,
you
know,
but
you
know
the
RFC
model
really
built
the
internet
right.
A
And
I
continue
to
be
angry
at
websites
that
do
not
follow
the
allowed
email
addresses
yeah.
A
Me,
nuts,
but
or
actually
I,
found
one
that
the
mobile
app
wouldn't
allow
it,
but
their
website
did
so
or
vice
versa
and.
B
B
A
B
A
Don't
that
stage
right
yeah,
that's
the
same
thing
like
I,
don't
understand
why
and
this
kind
of
it's
going
back
to
the
disabled
thing
is
like.
Why
are
so
many
web
developers
fascinated
with
making
fixed
fonts
on
their
websites
like?
Why
can
I
not
zoom
in
on
your
mobile
app
page
right?
You
know
it's
like
sometimes
I
want
to
see
something,
that's
really
small.
Maybe
it's
driving
me
crazy.
A
That
I
can't
tell
if
it's
a
comma
or
a
period
right
right
and
you
know,
but
everybody
wants
to
lock
the
you
know
the
the
fonts.
B
A
B
And
that
was
awful
and.
A
A
Exactly
so
yeah
I
just
thought
that
was
you
know,
super
frustrating,
but
all
right.
So
sorry,
going
back
to
caps.
B
Yeah
so
nebrun
built
this
awesome
site
where
it's
just
like
here's
all
the
Caps
that
are
in
Flight
here's.
You
know
title
discussion,
summary
right
kind
of
thing:
yeah,
it's
like
oh
I,
could
just
use
this
to
go
comment
on
things
if
I
need
to
and.
B
A
Or
whatever,
exactly
exactly
I
I
actually
remember
having
a
conversation
with
one
of
the
Python
maintainers
I.
Think
about
like
an
idea
we
had
or
whatever
and
and
we
went
and
looked
for,
paps
about
it
and
it
had
been.
Actually,
you
know
kind
of
asked
and
answered,
so
somebody
had
written
a
path
and
it
had
been
declined
and
there.
A
A
A
B
A
A
Actually
have
it
because
I
record
all
my
lectures.
B
B
A
In
their
Walled
Garden,
well,
that's
I.
B
A
B
It
cost
a
lot
of
bandwidth,
got
it
right
right,
okay,
exactly
but
the
I've
lost
my
train
of
thought
for.
A
A
second
but
the
you
were
talking
about
early
contributors
and
being
able
to
kind
of
come
up
through
the
contributor
experience
group
right
and
then
actually
being
able
to
contribute.
As
the
contributor
experience.
B
A
B
A
You
hey
guys,
there's
a
redirect
now,
nice,
nice
yeah
I
mean
it's,
it's
funny,
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
people
don't
really
appreciate
how
much
it's
appreciated
the
little
stuff
like
you
know,
I'll
go
and
like
you
know,
try
to
get
something
to
build
or
whatever,
and
you
know,
and
if,
if
the
install
docs
are
wrong,
I'll.
A
You
know
this
thing
you
know
could
be
a
little
clearer
or,
and
I
saw
one
actually
on
a
piece
of
software.
The
other
day
where
you
know
I
was
a
little
disappointed
in
the
person
because
they
had
written
it
as
an
issue
and
even
written
the
markdown
of
the
content
that
they
thought
should
be
in
there
I'm
like
where's,
the
pr
like
just
put
it
in
the
actual
VR
and
make
that
your
issue,
you
know
yeah,
because
then
there's
somebody
can
say.
Oh
yeah,
that
sounds
good.
A
Click
done
right
right
and
you
know,
but
I
think
people
don't
appreciate
how
much
that
and
I
keep
talking
about
it
in
these
interviews
is
like
many
perspectives,
makes
a
much
better
piece
of
software.
B
A
And
so
when
you're
rolling
along-
and
you
think
this
brilliant
person
has
built
this
thing,
you
are
often
intimidated
by
offering
anything,
because
you
know
it's
like
no,
they
you
know
99
of
the
time.
They
do
not
think
it's
perfect,
you
know,
and
you
can,
you
can
add
a
little
bit
and
it's
sometimes
hugely
helpful.
B
A
B
A
A
It's
a
graphical
Rogue
game,
interesting
yeah,
it's
it's
fun,
I,
like
it
a
lot,
but
it's
but
periodically
I've
made
a
number
of
suggestions
for
like
features
you
know
and
I.
Think
one
of
like
10
has
not
been
like.
Oh
yeah
I
thought
about
doing
that,
but
that's
not
really
the
direction
the
game
wants
to
go
or
I
want
to
go
with
the
game.
A
A
A
Right
exactly
and
you
know,
and
there's
also
I
mean
that's
you
know,
there's
that
great
feeling
of
you
know:
hey
I
contributed
something
and
other
people
are
benefiting
from
it.
B
You
know
you
know
what
here's
a
funny
story
so
like
GitHub
has
their
like
Arctic
Vault
thing
where.
A
B
B
I
do
on
that.
What
did
I
do
on
that
and
I?
Look
in
my
like
Gmail
and,
like
all
the
proxy
mailing,
this
stuff
is
buried
and
so
like
go
back
and
look
at
like
historical
things
like
to
the
proxy
mailing
list
from
just
me,
and
all
I
did
was
built
an
RPM
spec
file
for
them.
Oh.
A
B
A
Merged
for
that
yeah
yeah,
my
suspicion
is
mine-
is
something
similar.
You
know,
but
you
know,
I
have
no
idea,
but
the
what
was
I
gonna
say
the
yeah
I've.
Also
speaking
of
RPMs
I've,
also
used
the
the
developer
technique
of.
A
B
A
Sorry
right
right
totally
doing
it,
yeah
I've
done
it
I've
done
it
a
couple
times
like
successfully
and
really
had
something
take
off
that
way.
But
you
know
okay,
let's
see
so
what
else
been
going
on?
I
mean
we,
you
know,
haven't
really
talked
much
in.
You
know
a
couple
years
now.
B
Yeah
I
mean
it's:
it's
been
a
year
since
I've
been
at
AWS
as
of
this
week.
So
like
a
year
ago,
we
were
all
in
kubecon
La
doing
this.
Well,
not
this
particular
yeah
but
like,
but
now
it's
you're
in
Detroit,
right
you're
in
my
hometown.
Right
right,
like
this,
is
where
I
live.
Yeah
I
chose
to
move
up
here,
yeah
right.
A
A
B
A
B
A
Right
right
and
you
know,
I
I,
don't
know
it's
been,
it's
been
all
right,
you
know,
you
know.
I
I
live
in
the
inner
cities
yeah.
You
know
I'm
a
little
more
used
to
City
Life
yeah.
A
A
Whatever
I
saw
the
the
whole
Monument
for
the
Underground
Railroad.
B
B
She
lived
and
died
here
after
you
know,
the
whole
thing
got
settled
in
Montgomery.
A
A
Been
really
cool,
but
you
know
thanks
so
much
for
joining
us
for
our
little
jaunt
around
town,
no
problem.
B
B
A
Yeah,
the
only
the
only
problem
is
it's
smarter
than
me.
You
know
it's
like
I
can't
figure
out
how
to
do
stuff
like
open
the
trunk,
yeah.
A
Taken
me
a
little
while
to
get
the
hang
of
any
of
it,
but
but
yeah
it's
been
pretty
cool
awesome,
but
thanks
so
much
man.
Thank
you.