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From YouTube: The Level Up Hour (S1E11): What's Next and Nextcloud
Description
Want to discuss what we should do on the show next and, in the meantime, let's get Nextcloud in to OpenShift.
Learn more at https://red.ht/leveluphour
A
Good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
wherever
you're
hailing
from
welcome
to
another
episode
of
the
level
up
hour
here
on
openshift
tv,
I
am
chris
short
executive
producer
of
openshift
tv.
I
am
joined
today
by
the
one
and
only
langdon
white
technical
marketing
manager
on
my
team
here
at
red
hat,
so
langdon
without
further
ado.
Let
us
know
what
we're
doing
today
here
on
this
level
up
hour.
Maybe
you
know
for
first
timers.
Let
them
know
what
the
level
of
power
is.
A
B
B
I
you
know
am
a
co-host
of
the
show
with
mr
short
and
I
also
work
as
a
technical
marketing
manager,
and
we
tend
to
cover
lots
of
random
stuff
and
we
always
have
we
try
to
have
fun
on
the
show.
There's
always
show
notes
that
I
produce,
after
the
show,
with
trying
to
recap
what
happened
and
I
usually
put
in
like
further
reading,
and
I
pull
out
the
funny
clips
or
what
I
think
are
the
funny
clips,
which
are
usually
self-deprecating,
so
they're
they're
fun.
B
A
A
B
Not
a
free
event,
but
it
is
not
all
that
expensive.
It's,
I
think,
50
bucks
to
to
register
for
that
it
is
on,
I
think,
quite
a
good
platform.
We
used
hopbin.2
for
our
conference
couple
weeks
ago
and
this
one's
on
that
too,
and
I
quite
liked
it.
I
think
it's
pretty
good.
The
other
announcement
I
was
going
to
make
too
is
red
hat
summit
cfp
is,
I
think,
officially
open,
so
go
check
out
red
hat
summit.
B
C
B
A
A
B
A
Think
you
have
to
register,
I
know
for
certain.
If
you
have
registered,
they
will
be
in
in
toronto
like
forever
right
or
for
as
long
as
principalfest
said,
the
ansible
team
wants
them
there.
I
believe
and
hope
that
they
will
have
the
capacity
to
actually
put
them
out
on
the
youtube
channel,
because
now
it's
actually
like
an
official
thing,
like
the
the
ansible
team,
really
never
had
like
a
good
use
for
their
youtube
channel
like
having
worked
on
it
but
yeah
like
now.
C
A
B
It
looks
like
jp
dade
in
the
chat
confirms
that
you
can
or
like
that
he's
read
that
somewhere.
The
other
comment
I
wanted
to
definitely
target
was
nothing
like
boston
in
the
fall
living
in
boston
all
year
round.
I
completely
agree,
it
is
it's
a
great
city,
especially
in
the
fall,
and
he
said
so
bruins
games,
but
you
know
like
professional
hockey,
is
normally
I
thought
that
was
pretty
much
year
round.
So
you
know
because
the
hockey
season
just
seems
like
it's
forever.
It.
B
B
The
t-shirt
for
which
is
the
community
leadership
summit,
which
usually
takes
place
around
oscon
and
is
for
community
management,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
little
conference.
You
should
definitely
check
it
out.
So
narendev
also
asked
if
we
have
snow
in
boston.
We
do
in
theory,
but
not
till,
usually
it's
like
later
like
january,
since
the
climate
changing
activity-
and
you
know
so
right
now.
It's
actually
super
nice.
Still
it's
it's
kind
of
weird.
It's
like
60
or
or
higher
fahrenheit.
B
A
B
You
can
join
us
on
the
discord
and
remember
joining
us
on
the
discord
is
a
reason
to
get
some
sweet
sweet
internet
points.
So
we
have
very
few
of
those
submissions.
So
it
would
definitely
you
know
rock
your
scores.
Chris
says
it's
17
degrees
celsius
here
today.
He
of
course
lives
nowhere
near
me.
So
that's
not
all
that
useful
in
converting
the
60
degrees
right
all.
B
Yeah,
generally
speaking,
that's
a
that's
a
pretty
good
guess.
So,
one
of
the
things
so
we
we
have
some
things
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
during
the
show.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
want
to
try
to
get
some
feedback
on
in
the
audience
is:
what
should
we
kind
of
tackle
next,
and
so
what
I
was
hoping
is
to
kind
of
lead
in
with
that
question,
so
that
the
audience
could
hear
it,
and
you
know
obviously
we're
usually
on
somewhat
of
a
lag.
B
B
Excuse
me,
sorry,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
work
on
something
else,
but
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second,
the
other
sorry,
I
had
another
idea
too,
but
I
have
to
find
my
notes
and
which
was
another
thing
that
we
could
talk
about.
Was
application
fit
without
actually
installing
and
we've
done
that
a
little
bit
and
we
you
know
like,
but
we
could
kind
of
take
it
a
little
bit
further.
It's
like.
Basically,
you
want
to
know
if
an
application
meets
your
needs.
A
A
It's
it's
all
in
netlify,
so
yeah,
it's
all
container
driven.
I
can
actually
specify
a
container
image
to
use
if
I
so
choose
so
that
could
be
interesting
right
like
because
what
is
it
chrissworth.net
uses
like
version.56.3
or
something
of
hugo
and
like
another
site,
could
use
like
the
latest
version
of
hugo.
So
that
would
be
interesting
to
kind
of
like
dissect
that
maybe
potentially
at
some
point,
you
know
from
a
dependency
era
like
how
do
you
handle
this
legacy
dependency
inside
your
container
environment?
A
Well,
you
need
your
image
to
just
be
there
and
available
right,
so
I've
gone
ahead,
and
you
know
out
of
concern
for
november
1st,
whatever
happens
with
docker
hub
I've
gone
ahead
and
backed
up
all
my
versions
of
hugo
that
I
use
and
put
them
in
quay.
For
my
my
own
personal
use
in
case
things
messed
the
bed
that
day.
B
The
a
little
bit
of
delay
there
I
zoom
decided
it
didn't
want
to
respond
to
me.
Oh
lovely,
thank
you
yeah.
So
just
shout
out
for
the
show
notes.
You
know
they
are
in
a
markdown
file,
it's
very
readable,
at
least
on
the
github
site
as
well.
As
you
know,
that's
kind
of
the
idea
behind
markdown,
which
I
think
is
kind
of
cool,
so
check
those
out
and
we
will
not
do
points
yet.
A
No,
but
I
can
let
me
drop
that
real,
quick
discord
I
have
at
it
folks
feel
free
to
join.
Continue
the
discussion
later
on,
there's
a
level
up
our
channel
and
you
can
actually
participate
in
the
live
stream
chat
via
discord.
If
you
so
choose,
that's
entirely
up
to
you.
I
don't
know
why
you
would
want
to
decouple
your
chat
in
your
video,
but
some
people
do
so
there
you
go
some
people.
We
may
get
an
option
all
right.
B
B
B
You
know
trying
to
solve
this
problem,
because
I
like
running
everything
in
containers,
so
I
want
to
go
and
find
how
to
deploy
it.
So,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
obvious
and
ask
the
google:
how
do
we
deploy
nexcloud
all
right,
so
we
can
look
at
deployment
recommendations
and
I
have
done
a
little
bit
of
this
research
before.
But
you
know
it's
not
all
kind
of
top
of
mind.
So
a
few
things
to
keep
in
mind
right
is:
we
want
an
apache.
B
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
A
B
Actually,
a
different
architecture.
It's
just
now.
We've
got
two
load
balancers
right,
but
it
still
had
a
load
bouncer
before
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
kind
of
like
to
show
is
that
with
openshift
or
like
a
container
orchestration
platform,
we
can
go
from
the
one
here
or
the
one
load
balancer
to
two
load
balancers
without
any
extra
effort.
In
a
sense
we
can
just
you
know,
twiddle
some
yaml
basically
and
make
that
go,
and
we
can
even
do
it.
B
If
we
really
want
to
get
complicated,
we
can
even
do
it
on
demand
right,
so
we
could
do
it
using
you
know
automatic
scaling,
so,
okay,
so
that's
kind
of
what
we're
going
to
try
to
accomplish
and
let's
look
at
what
they
have
already
one
thing
we
haven't
really
covered
which,
as
when
I
was
looking
at
this
before
they
did,
but
I
think
it's
not
in
this
one.
It
must
be
in
a
different
one
is
multi-base
image
containers
which
are,
I
think,
super
weird.
So,
let's.
C
A
So
I
pulled
down
the
old
janky
php
stuff,
which
was
written
well
before
containers
were
ever
thought
of
and
like
just
trying
to
hack
away
at
it
and
hack
away
at
it
and
hack
away
it.
I
was
like
screw
this
I'll,
find
something
different
and
sure
enough.
I
know
reader
has
a
feature
that
does
that,
so
I
turned
it
on
and
off.
I
went.
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Right,
that's
what
I
was
kind
of
wondering
is
actually
can
I
don't
know
if
you
can
limit
the
registries
you
search,
maybe
you
can,
but
so
we
have
ubi
8
php
72
oops.
My
tmux
links
again
bite
me.
Look
at
that.
Here's
a
5.6,
even
there
you
go
but
but
let's
see
is
it
still
saying?
No,
it's
using
seven
two,
because
we
were
just
looking
at
the
old
version.
C
B
A
For
folks
that
don't
un
know
php
very
well,
let's
do
a
little
history
lesson
here:
real
quick,
while
you're
figuring
that
out
so
php
five
was
the
latest
version
for
a
long
long
time
and
like
they
did
five
one
five,
six,
five,
seven,
five,
eight!
I
think
they
got
two
and
then
they
realized
like
we're
about
to
do
a
whole
rewrite
of
php.
So
we're
gonna
skip
six
and
just
call
it
php7,
because
php6
was
basically
like
ipv5
a
test
right
so
like
they
just
jumped
to
seven
and
seven.
A
One
of
the
guarantees
behind
seven
was
that
you
could
potentially
take
your
five,
your
latest
5x
code
and
run
it,
and
it
would
just
be
more
optimized
in
seven
that
I
don't
think
played
out
fully
as
well
as
they
hoped
it
would.
But
that
was
one
of
the
promises
I
think
that
they
tried
to
make.
But
we'll.
B
See
we'll
see
how
it
goes
exactly
so,
one
of
the
nice
things
about
the
kind
of
the
ecosystem
catalog
right
is
that
it
not
only
has
kind
of
the
docker
file
which
they
probably
should
change
that
to
container
file
one
of
these
days,
but
it
also
just
straight
up
lists
all
the
packages
it
has.
So
we
can
relatively
quickly
say:
oh
look,
okay,
it
has
lib
curl,
so
that
should
be
good
c
type.
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
need
to
install
c
type,
but
we.
A
B
C
B
Into
the
error
we'll
we'll
remember,
but
that's
only
because
I
did
php
for
a
while
a
while
back
all
right.
So,
let's
see
dom
again,
I
think
that's
there.
Gd
probably
is
not,
which
is
the
graphic
tool
chain,
but
we
have
it
in
our
especially
chosen
repo
or
container
image
so
yeah.
I
think
a
bunch
of
these,
I
think,
might
just
be
there
already.
A
B
A
B
B
A
You
know
what
I
actually
saw
one
of
those
cool
desk
matte
like
leather
desk,
mat
thingies,
so
that
oh,
I
did
like
yeah
like
so
I
can
like
make
sure
my
stuff
is
in
the
proper
position
at
all
times,
because
just
sitting
in
a
sea
of
black,
your
keyboard
ends
up
moving
left
to
right
kind
of
right.
Naturally,
throughout
the
day.
C
B
B
A
C
C
B
A
The
way
you
configure
it,
I
guess,
might
be
a
little
different
in
the
engine
x
case
compared
to
the
apache
case,
but
that's
probably
the
only
difference
right
right
and
when
you're
dealing
with
php
right,
like
it's
always
best
to
follow
the
recommended
guidance,
even
though,
like
sometimes
you
know
better
right,
like
yeah
sure
I
could
probably
make
nginx
more
performant
than
apache
sure,
but
why
why
do
I
need
to
do
that?
You
know
like
unless
I
have
a
need.
A
There's
no
reason
to
do
that
right
now,
right
for
this
case.
So
if
I
start
seeing
performance
issues
with
apache
and
I
can't
tune
it,
but
I
know
I
could
tune
in
with
nginx,
because
I'm
just
more
familiar
with
it,
I
can
swap
them
out
right.
A
web
server
is
the
requirement.
Essentially
they
just
suggest
apache.
B
B
A
B
B
I
I
didn't
actually
well
I
might
have,
but
I
I
like
I
said
I
learned
that
relatively
recently,
actually
primarily
looking
for
captive
portal
solutions
right.
So
one
of
the
problems
with
captive
portals
if
you
try
to
go
to
an
ssl
site,
it's
going
to
tank.
So
if
you
go
to
http,
it
will
always
be
there
at
a
non-ssl
url,
so
you
can
at
least
get
a
captive
portal
to
wake
up
so
yeah
interesting.
B
All
right,
so
that
should
be
all
fine
for
because
we
don't
need,
I
think
mod
rewrite
will
already
be
enabled,
but
we
can
always
come
back
and
check
if
it's
not
so
a
couple
of
things
are
pretty
urls,
which
you
know
with
something
like
the
term
pretty
url.
You
would
really
think
that
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
built
in,
but
you
know
I
just
work
here.
So,
let's
see,
actually
we
could
just
check
and
see
if
rewrites
here.
C
B
B
B
B
A
C
B
B
I
don't
like
as
much
about
podman
that
actually
docker
used
to
do
is
that
docker.
Whenever
you
generated
ports
it
would
just
count
up,
which
is
a
nice
which
is
really
nice.
If
you're
debugging
a
you
know
a
container,
but
podman
will
actually
generate
a
new
id
kind
of
at
random
within
a
range
obviously
but
the.
But
it
means
you
have
to
kind
of
go
back
and
check
the
the
port
that
it
decided
to
use
every
time.
B
Oh
nothing
so
I'm
going
to
pass
in
an
entry
point
because
my
suspicion
is-
is
that
if
I
run
this
container,
normally
it's
going
to
run
httpd
right.
So
in
as
the
entry
point,
so
I'm
going
to
change
the
entry
point
so
that
I
can
get
into
bash
without
it
running
and
just
kind
of
make
sure
that
it's
set
it
up
correctly.
B
B
A
B
Yeah,
so
I
don't
like,
I
wonder
if
they're
there
somewhere,
but
in
the
devi
debian
derivatives
is
where
all
the
a2
tools
are.
We
don't
have
them
in
fedora
and
rail
land.
I've
never
quite
understood
why.
I
think
part
of
it
has
to
do
with
how
the
the
content
set
up.
So,
let's
see,
if
so,
oh
we're
not
gonna
have
less.
Are
we.
B
B
B
C
C
B
Okay,
so
cool
okay,
so
we
have
a
rewrite
module,
which
is
really
all
we
were
trying
to
find
out,
which
that
was
a
lot
of
effort
for
very
little
benefit.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
hd
access
stuff
is
set,
but
we'll
do
that
because
we
don't
have
an
hd
access
file.
Yet
what
I'm
a
little
confused
about
is
like.
A
B
C
B
B
All
right,
because
we're
inheriting
from
this
php
container,
we
need
to
make
sure
we
switch
to
the
root
user
and
then
we'll
make
sure
we
switch
back.
And
if
you
recall,
we
saw
it
before
it's.
The
user
is
called
default,
so
we'll
just
switch
back
and
forth
so
that
we
can
actually
build
the
container.
B
So,
let's
see
did
it
care
what
version
of
maria,
so
it
is
saying
centos
eight,
so
the
default
for
maria
is
probably
correct.
However,
this
is
an
opportunity
where
we
could
use
now
stream
and
declare
one,
even
if
it's
not
the
default
correct,
actually
so
we're
building.
So,
let's
do
internet
points,
real,
quick.
B
B
B
Am
I
giving
away
part
of
like
red,
hat's
rsa
side
except
they're?
I
don't
I
I
understand
how
rsa
works.
I
don't
understand
how
something
like
a
yubi
key
works,
because
I
don't
know
how
it's
generating
the
codes
and
has
the
server
know
what
those
codes
are.
You
know
it
confuses
me.
So
noaa
friction
still
on
top
with
1200
points
narendev
with
1100
and
joe
fuzz.
B
If
you
notice
there
was
big
jump
for
joe
joe
fuzz
here,
because
he
crossed
that
five
episode
mark
so
don't
forget,
you
can
go
back
and
watch
the
old
episodes
on
youtube.
All
of
them
are
on
youtube.
Some
of
them
are
on
twitch,
and
one
of
the
one
of
my
updates
I
have
to
do
is
go
back
and
I'm
probably
going
to
repoint
all
of
the
show
notes
to
the
youtube
versions
of
the.
B
So
they're
persistent,
but
you
can
go
back
and
watch
them,
go,
get
those
codes
and
enter
them
on
the
the
forum
as
well,
and
they
will
just
show
up
for
me.
You
know
show
up
in
in
my
points,
calculator
and
you
can
collect
those
old
points
and
give
no
friction
here.
A
run
for
their
money.
Narendrev
says
he's
not
sure
which
show
he
missed,
feel.
C
B
B
There
would
be
a
largest
possible
number
of
points
would
be
1700
points,
if
I'm
doing
my
arithmetic
correctly
so,
but
then
you
can
also
earn
points
for
doing
going
to
the
discord.
There's
also
doing
points
for
submitting
an
issue
or
whatever
you
know,
and
you
can
go
to
the
page
and
I
will
even
throw
a
link
to
that
or
sorry
activities.
I
always
want
to
say
achievements.
I
don't
know
why.
B
So
all
the
different
ways
to
earn
points
are
on
the
activities
and
they,
you
know
kind
of
some
of
the
higher
effort
ones
get
more
points
than
some
of
the
lower
effort.
Ones
and
jp
day
says.
Devconfus
was
a
really
good
show
and
thank
you
I.
I
also
would
like
to
thank
my
co-hosts,
our
co-organizers
sally,
o'malley
and
avashi.
Monony,
I
think,
is
how
you
say
her
name
I
had
like.
I
heard
it
67
times
and
I
just
can't
get
my
mouth
to
wrap
around.
I
can.
B
C
B
Talked
about
here
and
I've
talked
about
with
a
bunch
of
people.
I
do
not
believe
that
we
will
ever
go
back
to
fully
in-person
events.
I
think
there
will
be
a
virtual
component
to
all
future
events,
and
I
think
it
will
be
much
more
inclusive
that
way
as
well
as
you
know,
but
what
we
still
haven't
figured
out
right.
It's
like
we're
kind
of
at
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
right
now
where
the
thing
is
entirely
virtual.
B
What
we
haven't
figured
out-
or
I
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
people
talking
about-
is
how
are
we
going
to
marry
those
two?
How
do
we
do
a
hybrid
so
that
the
people
who
are
doing
the
virtual
only
thing
are
still
hallway
tracking
with
people
who
are
physically
there,
which
I
think
those
which
would
be
awesome
so
jp
dade
also
comments
on
difficult
last
names,
with
a
name
like
langdon
yeah
people.
B
Exactly
in
high
school,
I
still
remember
them
trying
to
figure
out
a
nickname
for
me,
and
you
know
going
through
a
bunch
of
different
things.
I
will
just
leave
it
at.
I
ended
up
with
clubber
and
given
my
age,
my
name,
maybe
you
can
try
to
figure
out
where
that
nickname
comes
from.
It
is
not
nsfw
or
anything
else.
So
it's
kind
of
fun.
A
C
B
Finally,
settled
in
boston
in
2000,
okay,
so,
but
that
won't
help
you
with
the
origin
story
it
would.
It
would
only
help
you
it's.
It
is
based
on
pop
culture,
so
I
did
want
to
pause
here
because
I
did
want
to
ask
quickly
before
the
end.
Is
this?
The
right
next
thing
is
the
you
know
what
other
kinds
of
content
would
the
audience
like
to
see.
A
A
A
A
B
C
B
Container
security-
that's
what
it
was,
and
then
some
of
the
other
ones
I
had
on
my
list
were
app
streams
and
containers
systemd
in
a
container,
and
maybe
we
should
do
the
systemd
in
a
container
next
to
deal
with
this
problem
that
we're
going
to
have
with
mariadb
running
right.
Oh
so
we
don't
have
to
go
and
use.
What's
that
really
popular
solution
that
I
can't
think
of
the
name
of
it's
like
it's
not
playground.
It's.
A
C
B
B
Levels
right
right,
not
because
there's
anything
inherently
bad
with
that,
but
it's
like
I
would
much
rather
use
the
experts
init
tools
like
the
people
who
actually
work
on
mariadb
I'd.
Much
rather
use
their
init
tools
to
launch
you
know
their
tools
rather
than
me,
hacking
together.
Yet
another
startup
right
because.
A
A
We
had
scott
on.
He
probably
owes
me
an
episode,
maybe,
but
he
loves
talking
about
container
securities
right.
Okay,
so
narendev
says,
like
I
have
seen
in
some
flutter
based
containers
where
user
is
defined
so
that
the
default
flutter
version
is
not
changed
by
users,
unless
it
is
the
user
defined
in
the
image.
Okay,
interesting.
That
makes
sense,
though,
right
like
how
you
did
root
and
then
switched
to
default,
to
do
certain
things
right.
A
B
C
A
C
B
C
B
Rail
consultant
for
a
long
time
and
now
worked
in
ansible
for
a
while
and
then
also
worked
in
containers
with
core
os,
and
so
that
might
be
interesting.
Stephen
gallagher,
who
is
the
server
experience
architect
for
rel
and
uses
containers
a
lot
had
a
a
lot.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
him
working
on
app
streams
and
then
matt
maisini,
who
is
also
a
long
time.
Rel
admin
yeah.
A
B
A
A
Show
yeah
like
we're
talking
about
vault
and
secrets
and
stuff
like
that.
That's
like
we're
gonna
cover
that
in
the
get
ops
happy
hour
on
thursdays
or
every
other
thursday
with
christian
and
then
coming
up
at
11
a.m.
Eastern
1,
500
utc
is
the
open
shift
administrator's
office
hours,
and
we
can
definitely
get
you
know
some
folks
on
that.
That
would
be
cool.
B
A
Eastern
guess
who's
gonna
be
on
systig
folks,
fireside
chat
with
systig
on
openshift
commons,
and
then
I
have
a
sig
security
meeting
and
a
sig
controvex
meeting
and
then
the
scalable
multiplayer
game
design
with
openshift
eric
show
where
they're
doing
the
the
game
building
is
pretty
awesome.
And
yes,
yes,
jp
dade.
I
know
he
was
at
docker
and
now
is
that
stack
rocks
I'll
I'll
hunt
him
down
if
need
be.
A
B
B
A
A
Are
different
than
you
know,
like
government
needs
are
different
than
you
know:
commercial
needs
sometimes
right
regulatory
reasons,
all
that
fun
stuff.
So
yeah
we
talk,
we
say
federal.
You
know,
oh
he's
at
google,
now
dang,
that's
right.
He
moved
again.
That's
right.
I
forgot
about
jamie
leaving
vmware
so
yeah.
Maybe
I
should
link
up
with
him
see
what
he's
up
to
but
yeah
cool,
all
right
thanks,
everybody,
we
will
take
all
of
your
feedback
into
consideration
for
future
shows.