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From YouTube: The Level Up Hour (S1E15): KubeCon NA & NextCloud
Description
We discuss what we want to see at the KubeCon event and share an audience member's contributions on Nextcloud containerization.
How Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) users and admins can benefit their organizations and improve their careers by learning how to use containers, Kubernetes, and Red Hat OpenShift.
A
Good
morning,
good
afternoon
good
evening
and
welcome
to
a
very
special,
technically
problem
laden
edition
of
the
level
up
hour
here
with
chris
short
and
langdon
white
apologies
for
all
the
technical
issues
this
morning.
We
hope
that
they
are
figured
out.
A
Yes,
I'm
trying
to
double
check
that
I
can
actually
hear
us.
Yes,
okay
cool,
so
we
are
good,
now,
alrighty,
sorry
langdon
for
busting.
Your
show
up
for
eight
minutes,
but
this
is
the
special
edition
kubecon
show
and
we're
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
many
things
today:
containers
why
you
want
them
and
why.
B
Exactly
I
do
like
that.
Well,
let's
back
up
for
a
second,
this
is
chris
short,
I'm
langdon
white
and
we
are
technical
marketing
in
basically
the
cloud
platforms
area.
B
So
we
kind
of
do
all
the
cloudy
stuff,
but
I
have
a
special
interest
in
rel,
so
we
like
to
talk
to
you
in
this
show
about
why
containers
might
be
useful
for
you
and
why
you
might
want
to
use
them,
and
so
the
one
thing
I
was
gonna,
I
immediately
thought
of
when
you
said
containers
for
buildings
was,
have
you
seen
the
I
think
it's
google
does
the
they
swap
a
container
when
they
want
to
do
a
rack
change.
B
A
I
worked
for
a
data
center
company
in
the
raleigh
area
before
I
moved
up
here
and
they
they
built
a
data
center
in
the
research
triangle
and
everything
was
modular
and
when
I
say
modular,
I
mean
literally
the
generators
like
the
transformers,
the
ac
units,
everything
set,
either
in
a
container
or
like
on
a
flatbed
kind
of
truck
kind
of
deal.
A
B
Crazy
yeah
yeah.
I
think
it's
really
cool,
although
I
usually
use
now
in
my
talks.
Whenever
we
talk
about
containers,
I
actually
have
a
number
of
pictures
of
flower
pots,
because
I,
like
that
metaphor,
more
fun
for
the
container
than
the
trucking
container.
B
A
B
Because
everyone
loves
slides
and
they
should
be
showing
up
any
second
now
they.
A
B
And
then
so,
as
we
established,
this
is
the
level
of
hour.
We
had
a
brief
hiatus
for
some
technical
challenges.
That's
the
problem
with
being
the
first
show
of
the
day,
I
think.
B
So
as
previously
established,
I'm
lagna
white,
this
is
chris
short.
You
can
follow
us
on
twitter,
I'm
langdon
with
a1
and
chris
is
chris
short
and
join
us
on
our
discord
and
are
we
getting
restreaming
now
through
discord?
Again,
I
think
I
think
I
just
saw
it.
C
A
B
Well,
at
least
it
was
live
during
our
technical
challenges,
so
I
could
so
I
know
this.
It
went
across
to
all
the
channels.
My
comments
are
just
saying:
we're
we're
having
some
issues
all
right.
So,
as
usual
I
like
to
mention
the
show
notes
from
last
time,
which
are
here-
and
I
even
remembered
my
cheat
sheet
this
time,
so
I
can
nicely
cut
and
paste
it
for
you.
Oh.
B
And
yeah,
I
just
have
a
tendency
to
forget
to
make
it
because
you
can't
like
copy
off
the
slide
itself
right.
So
I
always
forget,
if
you're
in,
like
in
present
mode,
yeah,
yeah
all
right,
and
so
oh
and
apparently
we
got
some
new
art
or
we're
gonna
have
some
new
art
so
we'll
be
able
to
jazz
this
up
pretty
soon.
A
Yeah
so
langdon,
you
know,
for
the
people
are
corporate
overlords.
A
Know
so
like
open
shift
cloud
platforms
as
a
business
unit
within
red
hat,
there
is
a
overarching
marketing
team
at
red
hat
and
we
sit
within
the
cloud
platforms
unit.
But
there's
an
overarching
team
that
like
looks
at
everything
holistically
and
they're
like
hey,
we
would
like
to
level
up
the
level
up,
show
yeah.
A
You
know
red
hat
normal
red
hat
channels
and
everything
so
yeah.
It's
it's
pretty
cool,
we're
working
on
some
stuff.
You
know,
hopefully,
in
the
next
couple
months
we
will
hit
the
plus
plus
button
on
this
guy
and
off.
It
goes.
B
Exactly
exactly
so,
let's
see
show
notes
from
last
time.
Today
we
are
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
kubecon
and
then
talk
about
one
of
our
audience.
Members
actually
contributed
some
content
towards
the
next
cloud
container,
so
I
was
thinking
we
could
kind
of
review
that
or
discuss
that
and
and
see
what
we
see.
Although
I
realized
I
should
have
opened
my
editor,
which
would
be
things
a
little
easier
to
view
than
than
vi,
although
I
guess
it's
only
three
files,
so
we'll
see
okay.
B
So,
regarding
cubecon,
let
me
open
the
schedule
and
that
should
be
it.
So,
first
and
foremost,
we
we
kind
of
are
already
done
with
a
day
but
the
openshift
commons
day
or
what
is
that.
A
C
A
Openshift
commons
gathering,
which
was
airing
here
on
the
channel
yesterday,
was
part
of
one
of
many
day.
Zero
events.
A
As
you
can
see
here
so,
but
there
were
some
cool
things
that
happened
yesterday
right
like
there's
a
kubecon
hallway
channel
in
the
cncf
slack.
So
if
you're
at
cubecon
this
week,
you
need
to
be
in
the
cncf
slack.
A
We've
created
a
kubecon
hallway
channel
we're
using
a
thing
called
rabble.app
this
morning,
but
yesterday
it
was
just
like
someone
from
vmware
was
like
here's.
My
like
you
know
business
pro
account,
whatever
the
zoom
meeting.
Let's
all
just
join
that
you
know.
Oh
that's
cool.
It
was
pretty
cool
because
we
actually
got
like.
I
think
when
I
was
in
there
for
after
commons
it
was
like
50.
You
know
people
would
come
and
go
based
off
talks
and
everything.
But
at
one
point
we
had
like
50
people
in
there
and
it
was
pretty
cool.
That's.
C
A
Yeah
so
like,
if
you
have
the
gpu
that
can
take
it,
you
can
see
up
to
49
people
on
screen
at
the
same
time
and
zoom
so
yeah,
it's
it's
kind
of
cool
right
like
it
really
did,
bring
the
hey
how's
it
going
kind
of
thing
right
in
the
hallway
track,
but
we
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
have
those
like,
like
zoom
breakout
rooms.
Wasn't
quite
the
right
thing
to
like
have
like
the
pull
aside
conversation.
So
now
there's
an
app
that
somebody
found.
A
A
Yeah,
so
you
find
it
off
screen.
First
yeah
got
it.
This
is
the
app
we're
using.
I
won't
post
a
specific
channel.
Please
join
the
cncf
slack
through
there
because
I'm
not
gonna
post
it
publicly,
but
that
app
is
really
cool
because,
like
it's
a
space.
B
Yeah,
there's
there's
actually
an
open
source
version
of
this
that
the
community
has
been
using,
which
of
course,
I'm
blanking
on
the
name
of,
but
the
fedora
community
has
a
social
hour
every
week.
I
think,
and
they
have
it
in
two
different
alternate
time
zones
so
that
you
know
one
is,
is
kind
of
better
for
us
time
zones
and
one
is
better
for
like
european
time
zones
and
the,
and
sometimes
they
do
it
in
a
similar
thing.
B
Those
90s
style,
video
game,
avatars
that
you
can
see
are
kind
of
amazing,
which
I
don't
think
it
has,
but
really
could
use,
I'm
sure,
but
yeah
there's
an
open
source,
one
that
yeah
it's
kind
of
neat.
The
thing
I'd
had
trouble
with
it
was
because
we
did
for
one
of
the
conferences
we
did
lightning
talks
in
it
and
the
challenge
I
had
a
little
bit
was
because
it's
three,
it's
not
three,
it's
360,
but
but
only
360
in
in
one
plane.
B
So
seeing
the
slides
in
a
sense
is
difficult
because
you
can
end
up
behind
them.
You
know
so
that
was
a
little
bit
weird.
I
think
I
think
it
would
get
better
if
you
like,
did
it
a
bunch,
but
it
was.
A
Kind
of
like
yeah,
I
think
like
this,
is
literally
just
like
people
talking
and
mingling.
So
like
there's
a
whole
map
and
like
I
right
now,
chris
short,
the
the
corgi
avatar
is:
has
his
quirky
butt
facing
the
camera
and
is
quote
afk?
I
left
dropped
a
note
behind
me
to
say:
hey
afk,
on
openshift
tv
right
now
and
yeah
like
I'm,
just
gonna
come
and
go
from
this
chat
room
all
day,
just
mute
and
unmute
it
and
like
it
can
just
sit
there
in
the
background
quietly.
Just
you
know
doing
whatever.
B
Yeah,
I'm
definitely
going
to
join.
I
haven't,
I
guess
I
I
was
mostly
off
yesterday,
so
I
I
wasn't
really
doing
the
cubecom
thing
yet,
but
I
will
definitely
be
checking
it
out
today,
all
right
so
going
back
to
kubecon
a
little
bit.
B
The
reason
we
want
to
talk
about
kubecon
for
anybody,
who's
kind
of
new
to
the
containery
world
is
so
when
we
talk
about
containers,
you
know
there's
and
if
you
check
out
last
week's
episode
or
sorry
was
it
last
week,
yeah
last
week,
but
episode
14
and
you
can
go
watch
the
video
on
youtube
and
there's
a
link
to
it
from
the
episode
show
notes
you
can
see,
or
you
can
hear
us
talking
with
a
rel
marketing
technical
person
about
when
you
want
to
orchestrate
and
what
we
mean
by
that
is,
you
know
a
container?
B
Is
you
know,
kind
of
interesting
and
fun
on
its
own
for
certain
use
cases,
but
sometimes
or
often
even
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
want
to
have
a
number
of
different
containers
that
are
actually
interacting
with
each
other,
to
be
able
to
provide
some
service
and
one
of
the
options
for
doing.
That
is
something
called
kubernetes
and
we
ship
a
version
of
kubernetes
that
we
call
openshift,
we
basically
kind
of
like
we
do
with
rel
and
fedora.
B
We,
you
know
kind
of
take
kubernetes.
We
do
some
hardening,
we
add
a
bit
of
feature
set,
it's
all
still
open
source,
but
not
necessarily
directly
in
kubernetes,
and
then
we,
you
know
we
provide
support
and
downloads
and
all
that
stuff.
For
us
I
mean.
A
Like
the
best
use
case
is
that
you
know
we
automatically
build
in
prometheus
the
shirt
I'm
wearing
today.
Thank
you,
prometheus
community,
like
for
monitoring
and
observability
right,
like
you,
want
metrics
and
everything
it's
already
in
openshift
right.
We
take
kubernetes
openshift,
open
source
project.
We
take
prometheus
open
source
project.
We
actually
glue
some
bits
together,
build
some
dashboards
for
you
and
boom.
You
know
now,
and
we
do
that
with
multiple
other
projects,
to
build
open
shift,
so
yeah,
it's
kubernetes
and
right
exactly
and
the
trail
map
bits
that
you
need.
I
feel
like.
B
B
Cool
yeah
and
the
I
guess
the
other
part
too
right
is
that
it's,
but
it's
still
open
source
right.
So
you
know
it's
not
embrace
and
extend
it's.
You
know
if
you,
if
you
want
that
throwback
microsoft
term,
it's
you
know
it's
just
as
you
said
communities
and
so
kind
of
going.
Oh,
I
lost
where
I
was.
I
thought
I
was
looking
at.
B
I
was
gonna
well,
I
was
gonna
kind
of
thinking.
We
would
kind
of
talk
about
what
was
coming
up
sure,
and
so
I
will
say
I
am
a
junkie
for
keynotes,
so
I'll
probably
go
to
all
the
keynotes.
B
A
B
So
yeah,
so
I
don't
know
keynotes
agenda
motivate
me
to
really
want
to
kind
of
get
in
bed
with
whatever
it
is
that
you
know,
like
I'm
kind
of
seeing
the
conference,
for
I
find
them
really
upbeat
and
everything
else.
A
lot
of
people
don't
find
value
to
them
because
they
feel
like
they're,
too
marketing-esque,
but
maybe
I
just
respond
to
that.
You
know
it's
kind
of
like
the
gamification
in
this
show.
You
know
some
people
respond
better
to
it
than
others.
So
that's
just
my
little
thing.
A
Will
say
that
there's
two
keynotes
I
am
definitely
going
to
today,
because
both
people
are
my
friends.
Diana
mueller
from
you
know,
openshift
comments.
She
is
doing
the
rise
of
the
end
users
as
her
keynote
today
and
then
brianna
frank
from
ibm
cloud,
who
is
also
a
friend
of
mine,
not
just
an
ibm
employee,
she's,
the
director
of
product
at
ibm
cloud
she's,
also
going
to
be
talking
about
like
kubernetes
everywhere,
and
how
we're
extending
kubernetes
like
far
beyond
where
we
thought
you
know.
Kubernetes
could
go
to
an
extent
right
so
yeah.
B
Well,
that's
that's
the
other
thing
I
like
about
keynotes.
Sometimes
it
depends
on
the
keynote,
but
it
also
it
will
often
give
you
the
vision
of
the
future
right
and
one
of
the
things
when
you're
using
software.
You
know
if
you
can
understand
the
philosophy
behind
the
software.
It
gives
you
a
lot
of
advantages
to
understanding
like
whether
it's
actually
going
to
fit
your
use
case,
because,
even
if
you
look
at
the
docs
and
that
kind
of
stuff-
and
it
tells
you
you
know-
oh
it
does
a
b
and
c.
B
If
you
understand
its
philosophy,
it
can
help.
You
understand
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
actually
work
in
the
long
term
for
you,
you
know
this
is
why
there's
so
many
different
program,
programming
languages,
for
example,
they
have
different
philosophies
and
if
you
don't,
if
you,
if
the
philosophy
doesn't
match
your
use
case,
you're
often
going
to
have
a
bad
time
even
if,
technically
speaking,
you
could
do
the
thing
in
whatever
programming
language.
B
So
moving
on
so
I
was
pointing
out
cli
to
get
ops.
I
was
thinking
about
going
to
this
talk.
It
looks
like
you
were
too.
A
Definitely
and
and
katie
is
a
fantastic
speaker-
she
just
joined
the
cncf,
so
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
this.
She
was
at
american
express
prior
and.
B
A
You
know
american
express
they
have
amazingly
huge
data
centers
across
the
u.s
and
globe.
For
that
matter.
B
Yeah
a
lot
of
times,
if
you,
if
you
can
see,
talks
by
generally
financial
services
companies
in
general,
they
tend
to
be
very
cutting
edge
technically
for
certain
parts
of
the
financial
organizations
and
so
they're,
often
a
good
place
to
kind
of
learn
from
my
big
experience
used
to
be
with
merrill
lynch
used
to
do
a
lot
of
really
interesting
stuff.
You
know
the
problem
is
a
lot
of
financial
services.
Companies
can't
talk
about
what
they're.
B
Well
and
or
somebody
else,
jumping
on
their
their
competitive.
B
Because,
unlike
many
industries,
you
know
your
infrastructure
in
fs
is
often
your
competitive
advantage
because
of
speed
right,
so
the
faster
you
can
make
a
trade
the
better
you
can
do
something
all
right.
What's
what's
the
next
one,
you
would
point
out?
Oh
I
I
don't.
There
is
a
lot
at
any
given
time
and,
of
course,.
A
Back
up
to
the
top
real
quick,
if
you
look
like
at
the
very
top
of
the
very
top
yeah
right
right
there
on
the
filter
by
type
if
right
hand,
side
scroll
down
yeah,
you
can
actually
filter
by
like
certain
things
that
you're
interested
in,
and
we
have
so
many
categories
now
in
the
sketch
that
like
but.
A
Let
me
know,
as
jp
dave
mentioned,
like
the
talks
are
getting
played
in
the
cncf
platform
in
trotto,
which
say
what
you
want
about
that
for
an
event
platform
and
then
they're
putting
them
on
youtube.
I
believe,
like
immediately
after
oh.
A
So
if
I
heard
correctly,
that
is
the
intent,
I
don't
know
if
that's
actually
happening,
because
I
haven't
checked
to
be
honest
with
you.
The
intent
was
to
make
these
things
available
sooner
rather
than
later,
as
as
opposed
to
last
cube
con,
where
we
were
kind
of
scrambling
to
just
figure
out
virtual
events
right
right,
we've
got
our
like
cncf
and
the
community
in
general,
has
kind
of
gotten
its
sea
legs
under
itself.
B
No,
no,
I
know,
but
you
can't
so
if
you
do
this,
if
you
do
grid
you,
can
you
can't
see
like
what
I
want
to
see
is
the
types
yeah
right
or
the
tracks?
You
know
yeah,
because
in
the
real
world
you
put
one
track
in
one
room,
because
you
physically
can't
have
two
talks
going
on
at
the
same
time
in
the
same
place
right,
but
sked
hasn't
quite
caught
up
on
the
fact
that
so
many
events
are
virtual.
I
think.
B
Yeah
I
manually
fixed
that
for
the
dev
con
conference
we
did
where
we
basically
went
and
once
we
had
all
the
links
we
went
and
embedded
them
in
the
abstracts
so
that
you
could
do
exactly
this
because
the
you
know
like
a
lot
of
these
virtual
conference
platforms.
You
know
they're
good
at
streaming,
video
but
they're,
not
great
at
all
the
other
stuff,
like
chat
schedule,
etc.
You
know,
so
I
want
to
use
sked
right
for
my
schedule.
I
want
to
use
you
know,
for
example,
slack.
B
Although
for
an
open
source
conference,
we
tried
to
use
element,
which
is
the
former
riot.
You
know
et
cetera,
because
they're
good
at
that,
that's
what
they
do.
You
know
all
right,
so
any
anything
else
we
should
point
out
for
today
or
for
later
this
week
or
what
are
the
highlights.
This
is
another
one
by
a
friend
of
mine,
which
is
so
she
is
a
software
developer
contributor
to
the
actual
kind
of
oci
stuff.
B
A
Don't
know
either
orchestrated
device.
Is
that,
like
an
iot
device,
I
guess
maybe
I
don't
know
some
place
your
hublet
is
running.
I
would
assume.
A
Maybe
I'll
have
to
look
it
up,
but
yeah,
that's
pretty
cool
yeah.
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
mention
that
we
will
be
having
project
specific
office
hours
throughout
the
week
here
on
openshifttv
right,
good
point
yeah.
So
if
you
go
to
our
calendar,
which
I
will
drop
in
chat,
you
will
be
able
to
see
all
the
fun
things
that
we're
talking
about.
A
So
they
wanted
to
have
a
better
way
than
inside
the
platform
to
do
kind
of
these
office
hours
where
people
could
actually
like
talk
and
chat,
and
so
for
so
on.
So
they
picked
openshift
tv,
thankfully
and
yeah
josh
burkus,
and
I
have
been
working
on
that
the
past
couple
weeks,
along
with
aubrey,
mullig
and
yeah.
We've
gotten,
I
think,
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row
aside
from
the
fact
that
yesterday
like
this
is
how
weird
like
live
streaming
is
like
this
is
stuff.
A
I
deal
with
right,
like
google
calendar
yesterday
josh,
he
dm's
me
he's
like
hey
all
the
links
to
all
the
zoom
invites
are
just
gone
like
from
the
calendar.
So,
like
I
go
to
my
calendar
and
I
open
it
up
and
I
actually
watch
the
zoom
info
disappear
on
my
screen
and
it's
like.
A
B
So
related,
I
was
just
gonna
say
so
you
know
many
of
the
shows
you
might
watch
on.
Openshift
tv
are
not
happening
this
week
because
of
kubecon
and
instead
are
replaced
with
a
lot
of
these
office
hours.
So
you
should
definitely
come
and
check
out
the
office
hours
a
lot
of
it
as
with
actual
contributors
to
the
code
base,
and
I
tweeted
about
a
bunch
of
them.
B
At
least
the
ones
that
you
know
are
particularly
interesting
to
me
to
infosec
812
yeah
hop
in
dot
two,
that's
the
one
we
actually
use
for
devconf
yeah.
I
agree
it
is.
It
is
quite
nice,
it's
better
it's
better
than
most
still
wish.
They
would
realize
that
they
don't
need
to
be
a
chat
platform
author.
They
don't
need
to
be
a
schedule,
platform
author
and
if
they
just
would
integrate
with
the
existing.
You
know
yeah
like
existing
tools.
You
know
best
in
class,
you
know,
even
if
they
only
offered
one.
B
I
like.
I
don't
understand
why
you
want
to
write
your
own
chat
platform.
That's
one
of
those
things
like
a
package
manager
that
you
you
start
writing
it.
It
looks
really
easy.
You
often
write
hello
world
and
it
looks
like
it's
gonna
be
cake,
and
then
you
get
into
the
difficult
parts
which
is
way
harder
than
you
think.
It
is
much
like
a.
B
Or
a
database
or
whatever
all
right,
so
what
else
do
we
want
to
talk
about
much
else
or
we
just
kind
of
I
kind
of
want
to
just
give
an
overview?
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
stuff
going
on
and
lots
of
actual
contributors
to
the
actual
code
base
we'll
be
giving
talks.
You
should
definitely
that's
a
great
way
to
learn
and
you
know
kind
of
going
to
see
what's
going
on
there,
what
anything.
A
A
In
particular,
are
very
much
not
in
the
vein
of
doing
that,
like
disney,
especially
right,
like
a
friend
of
mine
used
to
work
at
disney
had
to
go
as
an
independent
to
every
cube
com
where
there
was
a
talk,
accepted
kind
of
thing
right
like
had
to
take
people.
This
wasn't
like
an
extinction
thing
by
their
former
employer
that
was
disney,
but
apple
has
opened
up
and
they've
got
this
crazy
talk
that
is
526
600,
kate,
clies
with
philip
rock
and
gabby
fisher.
A
I
got
word
from
an
apple
employee
this
morning
that
that
talk
was
done
internally
last
week
and
it
was
amazing.
So
I.
B
A
And
I'm
looking
at
oh
here
this
one,
this
like
the
overarching
schedule
here
and
that
will
be
right
immediately
like
starting
at
well.
No,
actually,
it
overlaps
with
the
rook
office
hours,
so
I
will
have
to
catch
that
no.
B
A
A
B
He's
the
first
person
I
saw
who
was
giving
a
virtual
talk
and
during
his
talk
he
has
oh,
I
blanked
on
the
word,
but
basically
he's
injected
crowd
noise,
and
so
he
actually
has
like
built-in
laughing
and
clapping
and
everything.
B
C
A
B
Right
right,
yeah
yeah
we've
talked
about
silver
blue
on
the
show
before
and
yeah.
So
I
definitely
he's
he
is
a
really
good
speaker.
So
definitely
recommend
him
in
general.
It
will
be
a
tough
competition
between
those
two
talks,
so
yeah,
but
I
I
agree
when
you
see,
if
you
see
an
actual
brand
name
that
is
not
coming
from
like
a
developer
advocate.
That's
often
somewhat
interesting.
You
know
yeah
yeah.
B
So,
let's
see,
I
think
you
said
two,
oh,
you
said
apple
and
disney.
Was
there
any
other
talks?
You
think
we
should
highlight
or.
A
C
A
An
external
platform
right
here,
which
basically
means
twitch
yeah,
so
cloud
native
foundation,
has
poked
me
a
couple
of
times
and
picked
my
brain
a
few
times
more
to
get
their
twitch
channel
up
and
running.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
cool
but
they're
doing
it
on
twitch,
because
it
gives
you
the
same
kind
of
experience
we
have
here
where
you
can
interact
with
the
audience
and
that
audience
is
the
head
of
cncf
right
right.
C
B
C
B
Oh
one
thing
I
want
to
point
out:
oh
so
there's
this
gaming
talk
up
here,
which
I
thought.
B
B
Yeah,
but
I
think
eric
told
me
yeah
yeah,
which
is
super
cool,
but
I
think
eric
told
me
that
all
of
them
might
be
in
fact
that
would
make
sense
yeah
totally,
but
I
thought
it
was
kind
of
neat
and
you
know
there
there's
some
good
90s
side-scrollers.
You
know
basically
but
they're
they're
fun
to
play.
So
definitely
you
should
check
that
out,
but
that
the
reason
I
thought
of
that
is
because
I
was
looking
at
you
know
some
of
the
virtual
events
you
know
going
on.
B
One
of
the
things
that
is
difficult
about
doing
a
virtual
conference
is:
how
do
you
do
the
party
right,
as
you
know,
as
I
experienced
so
like
what
we
did
for
our
conference?
Was
we
had
a
show-and-tell
where
I
encourage
people
heavily
to
bring
a
frog,
but
nobody
did
as
throwback
to
anyone
who's
our
age.
Any
book
ever
always
mentioned
that
show
and
tell
had
a
frog
so
frog.
B
A
B
Frog,
of
course,
but
yeah
so
bringing
bringing
a
show
and
tell,
and
that
was
entertaining
and
jp
david
says
slides.
Oh,
it
has
links
to
slides
yeah.
So
as
long
as
they're
updated,
any
individual
talk
should
have
a
link
to
the
slides,
oh
yeah,
this
this
nice
person
has
done
it
and-
and
the
nice
thing
about
scad
too,
is,
as
far
as
I
can
tell.
It
is
persistent
forever.
A
But
you
can
go
pull
up
the
2018.
B
Right
totally
now
and
then
what
we
did-
and
I
I'm
hoping
what
cncf
will
do
is
once
this
has
aired.
This
button
will
change
to
being
a
view
on
youtube,
so
you
can
kind
of
still
use
sked
as
your
organizing
thing
and
then
you
know,
but
then
actually
get
to
the
the
content.
And
it's
it's
super
handy.
B
I
don't
know
I
I
generally
speaking,
I
can't
say
enough
good
things
about
skid,
it's
great,
it's
even
their
app
has
an
offline
mode
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense
when
you're,
physically
at
a
conference,
because
you
never
have
internet
access,
etc.
They
let.
A
B
Right
that
was
the
last
one,
so
yeah
so
like
I
said
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
think
might
be
interesting.
That's
going
to
be
happening
for
the
conference
and
actually
to
answer
jp
date.
A
little
bit
I
will
mention
red
hat
summit
is
coming
up.
There's
a
little
bit
of
a
change.
There's
gonna
be
like
what
is
it
four
of
them.
B
B
Well,
what
I
did
want
to
mention
is:
they
are
still
strongly
looking
for
speakers,
and
the
cfp
is
open
until
the
end
of
the
month.
As
I
recall,
and
if
you
have
a
story
that
involves
one
of
our
customers
that
tends
to
be
looked
upon
very
favorably
by
the
selection
committee.
I
guess
pfc
committee.
B
The
oh:
how
about
summit
yeah
here
we
go!
It's
going
to
look
for
the
closing
date,
so
I
think
it's
for
this
one
for
the
june
15
and
16th
yeah.
A
All
the
content
already
like
figured
out
like
who's
doing
what
right
right
and
like
that
was
weeks
ago,
when
I
heard
that
so
they're
doing
cfps
for
june
and
everything,
and
sometimes
in
the
you
know
further
off.
But
no
jp
data
did
not
get
voluntold
for
summit.
B
B
So
yeah
so
the
end
of
the
month
so
november
30th
is
the
last
day
to
submit
proposals,
and
you
know,
like
speaking
of
red
hat
summit's,
a
big
deal,
and
there
is
some
training
and
stuff
like
that.
If
you
are
nervous
about
it,
so
definitely
you
know
submit
something
if
you,
especially
if
you
have
a
story
about
when
you're,
especially
if
you
have
a
story
about
kind
of
like
a
customer
usage
of
our
products,
you
know,
but
other
things
may
get
in
there
as
well.
B
Like
I
just
said
you
know
I
just
happen
to
know.
The
selection
kitty
committee
tends
to
favor
those.
You
know
because.
B
A
Those
are
even
better
you
should
you
should
totally
submit
that
because,
like
I
can
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
the
talks
that
I
do
get
accepted
freely
talk
about
failure
right
right,
it's
like
it's
a
missing
subject
in
our
industry.
We
always
talk
about
our
successes.
We
never
talk
about
our
failures
or
what
went
wrong
right.
We
only
talk
about
the
good,
not
the
bad
kind
of
thing.
So
right.
I
would
welcome
a
what
not
to
do
talk
yeah
and
I
would
I
would
potentially
even
team
up
with
you
on
that.
A
B
Kind
of
moving
on
just
a
little
bit,
what
I
want
to
do
is
a
shout
out
to
one
of
our
regular
audience
members
who
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
here
today
is
nlh
acm,
which
is
netherlands
and
some
other
letters,
is
there
nick
and
they
kind
of
offline
have
been
spending
some
time
working
on
the
next
cloud
container
problem,
which
I
thought
was
super
cool,
and
so
I
wanted
to
show
it
a
little
bit
before
I'm
trying
to
find
my
terminal
window.
B
B
C
B
Did
you
see
the
resolution
of
I
don't
know
who
won
the
contest
for
the
two
millionth
bug
so
there's
somebody
internally
at
red
hat,
who
works
who's
been
working
on
rel
for
a
long
long
time
who,
for
the
millionth
bug,
held
a
contest
for
predicting
the
closest
date
and
time
to
when
the
millionth
bug
would
be
filed,
wow
and
then
scarily
enough.
In
my
time
at
red
hat,
he
is
now
doing
a
contest
for
the
two
millionth
buck.
B
Yeah,
as
anybody
who
has
worked
with
red
hat
before
and
filed
bugs
the
most
hated
comment
on
your
bug
is,
you
know,
bug
has
been
closed
because
you
know
we
have
gone
on
to
next
version,
not
because
it's
fixed,
but
because
we've
got
our
next
version,
so
yeah.
B
Is
anybody
in
the
audience
have
that
experience?
I
kind
of
figured.
A
They
had
not,
I
mean
maybe
jp
or
james
has,
but
it's
a
sad
sad
day
yeah.
No,
I
like
closed
won't
fix
on
github
is
like
exactly
my
least
favorite,
and
bugzzilla,
though,
is
definitely
like
yeah
version
no
longer
supported
right
right.
A
B
It's
getting
there,
so
you
should
be
able
to
see
that
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
kind
of
make
it
so
it's
visible.
But
let's
see
is
that
legible.
B
So
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
was
a
few
things
so
very
nicely
pulled
from
ub-8
is
or
ubi8.
I
can't
even
speak,
so
that's
our
kind
of
small,
minimal
kind
of
rel
container
that
is
available
and
you
can
also
do
redistribution
with
it.
However,
if
you
use
it
from
a
registered
red
hat
machine,
it
will
have
access
to
all
of
the
repositories
that
your
subscription
allows
you
to
have
access
to.
B
So
if
you
notice
this
line
here
this
or
this
line,
I
guess
you
will
see
these
two
calls
from.
A
But
it's
it's
like
there's
a
fedora
minimal.
I
know
that
but
yeah.
No,
no,
there
is
a
ubi
minimal.
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
a
stripped
down.
Image
is
what
it
says.
Obviously,
but
like
what
is
trip
down.
A
It
has
bash.
Oh
there
it
goes,
it
has
broccoli,
that's
interesting,
curl
who's
in
there,
that's
good.
That's
always
good.
Glib
c
is
good
yeah
kind
of
gnu
utils
I
mean
it's
got
j.
I
mean
like
it's
very
minimal
right,
I'm
looking
I'm
looking
at
these
and
I'm
like
dang.
This
is
like
core
and
that's
it.
B
Well,
so
so
this
is
actually,
I
think,
a
really
interesting
thing.
So
there
is
a
big
push
in
the
industry
for
these
minimal
containers
right
or
minimal
base
images
to
make
your
containers
on
right.
For
a
few
reasons
right
one,
you
know
theoretically
minimizes
your
attack
surface,
because
you
have
less
software
that
could
have
bugs
that
could
provide
security
flaws,
also
it's
easier
to
ship
around
etc.
B
Generally
being
I
don't
hold
a
lot
of
truck
with
this,
that
smaller
is
better,
except
for
some
of
the
aspects
of
the
security
components,
but
what
I
think
has
been
really
interesting
is
in
the
effort
in
the
kind
of
fedora
rel
community
to
make
smaller
and
smaller
base
images.
Is
you
know
it's
probably
been
a
good
exercise?
You
know
so
for
years
you
know.
Fedora
has
actually
had
a
really
hard
time,
because
there
are
two
and
a
half
crypto
libraries
that
are
required
for
boot
and
notice.
B
Okay,
so
yeah,
so
that
effort
like
there's,
we
actually
had
an
intern
who
spent
a
bunch
of
time
kind
of
evaluating
all
the
bits
inside
you
know
kind
of
a
base
image
container
and
whether
they
were
strictly
necessary
and
and
came
up
with
this
really
great
set
of
recommendations.
B
The
problem
is,
you
know,
even
the
two
and
a
half
crypto
libraries
example.
It's
really
difficult
to
get
rid
of,
because
all
of
the
open
source
world
you
know
we're
not
dictating
to
them
what
crypto
library
they
use
right.
So
how
do
you
you
know?
How
do
you
either
convince
the
upstream
to
switch
to
this
crypto
library
from
that
one?
And
how
do
you
even
know
which
one
to
tell
them
to
use
right
right?
So
so
it's
been
like
it's
both
an
interesting
exercise,
but
also
grossly
understandable
about
why
that
has
been.
B
You
know
such
a
big
deal
where
you
kind
of
take
the
flip
side
right.
This
is
kind
of
where
you
get
the
you
know.
What
do
you
call
like?
You
know
when
you're
building
something
new,
it's
in
some
ways
a
lot
easier
than
retrofitting
something
that's
been
around
for
a
while,
and
so
you
take
something
like
alpine,
which
is
ridiculously
small,
because
they
just
built
it
from
scratch.
Right
right.
It
has.
B
It
has
no
legacy
to
support
yeah,
so
it's
like,
I
said
I
think
it's
been
a
really
interesting
exercise
and
it
continues,
and
so
you
see
things
like
ubi
8
minimal,
but
then
fedora
also
has
a
minimal.
What
I
would
be
curious
about
is
is
this
the
link
to
the
description
of.
B
I
thought
I
had
a
browser
window
open
up
here,
oh
yeah,
so
what
I
wanted
to
look
at
is,
for
example,
they.
B
Which
the
same
guy
who
wrote
rpmos3
got
frustrated
one
day
and
decided
to
write
his
own
version
of
dnf.
That
is
just
c,
and
the
thing
is
is
that
when
they
rebuilt
yum
into
dnf,
they
actually
made
it
into
a
c
library,
or
I
think
it's
a
c
library
might
be
c,
plus
plus
but
c
library.
The
vast
majority
of
the
package
management
components
so
that
other
things
could
wrap
it
so,
like
dnf,
now
wraps
that
library
so
does
package
kit,
so
do
a
bunch
of
other
things.
B
So
you
can
do
something
like
microdnf
and
it's
still
in
line
with
our
package
managers
in
general
yeah,
but
the
syntax
is
different.
For
one
thing
you
don't
have
to
pass
minus
y
when
you
want
to
install
something
it
just
does
it
because
it
just
does
it
it.
B
A
So,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
like
the
premise
of
microdnf:
it
just
doesn't
have
all
the
things.
I
would
want
long
term
right
like.
B
Well,
the
reason
dnf
is
designed
the
way
it's
designed
or
some
of
the
reasons
why
it's
designed
the
way
it's
designed
is
because
of
that
legacy
component
is
that
we
really
didn't
want
to
break
all
of
our
customer
scripts,
so
it
is
99.9
compatible
with
yum
from
rel7.
B
So
you
know,
while
still
trying
to
introduce
new
features.
So
you
have
you
know
quite
the
balance
exactly
I
mean
that's.
That
was
the
whole
thing
behind
modularity
as
well,
but
we,
but
I
think
we
actually
did
a
pretty
good
job,
so
micro
dnf
can
kind
of
take
the
a
different
approach.
There's
no
intense
to
support
anyone's
previous
scripts.
B
It
either
just
you
know:
you're,
just
gonna
go
use
it
or
you're,
not
so
yeah.
So
I
just
think
that's
interesting.
So
the
reason
I
brought
all
that
up
is
because,
if
you
try
to
run
the
build
of
this
on
something
that
is
not
a
registered
rail
machine,
it
will
fail
because
maria
db
is
not
in
the
default
repositories.
B
So
a
couple
more
things
so
you
know,
adds
in
the
next
cloud
com
file,
which
makes
sense
to
me
right
and
then
adds
in
basically
a
shell
script
to
kind
of
launch
it
where
we
have,
and
if
you're
here
in
lhacm,
I
gotta
figure
out
how
to
like
just
say
that
I
don't
know
I'll
figure
it
out
someday.
I
don't
actually
have
this
file,
so
I
don't.
B
I
can't
completely
run
it,
but
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
was
we
can
do
this
and
it
should
still
work
just
fine,
because
what
I
was
super
impressed
by
is,
they
went
and
built
run
labels
and
an
init
label,
which
I
thought
was
pretty
amazing.
A
But
I
love
the
fact
that
I'll
call
them,
netherlands,
hack
them
yeah.
B
So
so
I
was
playing
around
with
it
and
assuming
I'm
on
the
correct
machine.
By
the
way
we
do
have
a
hard
stop
today,
oh
okay,
all.
B
Exactly
yes,
so
I
just
built
it
and
I
called
it
netherlands,
hackham
and
what
we
can
do
is,
let's
just
see
if
it's
oh
boy,.
B
So
what
I
want
to
show
off
is
look
at
that
we
actually
have
a
nice
run
label
and
when
we
do
dash
dash
display
it
prints
it
out
and
tells
us
what
it
would
try
to
do
so
it's
gonna
mount.
You
know
this
local
home
directory,
sorry
root
directory
into
this
place
inside
the
container
and
then
maria.
B
Yeah
exactly
so,
I
thought
that
was
pretty
slick
and
then
which
we
never
really
talked
about.
Is
you
can
have
other
labels
that
are
like?
I
said,
I'm
not
in
love
with
the
term.
I've
said
this
before
I'm
not
in
love
with
the
term
unlabeled,
because
it's
not
just
run
labels,
but
you
can
also
have
this
init
label,
for
example,
and
it
will
it's
meant
to
be.
How
do
I
initialize
this
container,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
works
exactly
the
same
way
as
the
run
label
and
the
init
label
nice.
B
What
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
is,
I'm
pretty
sure
I
imagine,
there's
a
command
somehow
to
get
this
label
out,
but
I
don't
know
of
one
off
the
top
or
I
couldn't
find
one
off
my
head
until
you
know,
without
doing
a
full-on
inspect
where
you
get
the
whole
gamut.
Oh.
A
B
A
No
okay
never
mind
yeah.
B
There's
it
it's
whichever
one
it
is
inspector
info
I
cannot
remember,
which
is
which
I
think
it's
inspect,
which
will
show
you
the
whole
block.
But
I
don't
know
a
nice
way
like
this
to
kind
of
say
just
show
me
the
description
label
but
yeah
all
right.
So,
oh,
let
me
show
you
quickly
this
so
the
problem,
because
if
you
remember.
A
B
Oh
okay
got
it
so
so
yeah,
so
what
they
had
done
with
this
script
here
is
basically
just
tear
out
a
bunch
of
stuff
from
the
default,
my
sequel,
secure
installation
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
so
but,
as
they
say
in
the
chat,
it'll
actually
just
run
if
you
use
the
the
one
that's
shipped
directly
in
this
package,
so
we
can
try
that
at
some
point,
but
I
wanted
to
touch
briefly
here
on
so
we
have
this.
B
We
have
this
problem
where
we
want
to
run
s
bin
init,
because
we
want
system
d
to
manage
the
bringing
up
of
our
our
web
server
and
our
database,
but
at
the
same
time
we
need
to
run
some
initialization
stuff
and
so
the
way
they
approach
solving.
That
problem
was
this
init
container
or
this
init.
You
know
init
container.sh
right
so
that
the
you
know,
as
it
says,
actually
in
the
nice
header
here
you
know,
set
the
correct
web
and
database
internships
start
the
marietv
service,
etc.
B
And
so
once
I
have
a
formal
permission
from
netherlands
acm,
I
will
actually
post
this
in
the
repo.
But
right
now
I
don't
have
license
to
do
so
without
them
telling
us
officially
they
can
or.
B
A
B
As
I
think
it's
mit
yeah,
it
could
be
apache
though
oh
apache
2,
oh
no,
it's
sheryl
like,
oh
so
because
yeah,
so
this
is
kind
of
interesting.
So
this
is
one
of
the
problems
you
run
into
with
having
documents
in.
B
They
don't
the
two
different
types
of
licenses:
don't
both
work
all
right,
so
long
story
short.
Let's
do
some
points.
B
Yeah,
so
I
was
pretty
impressed.
I
actually.
B
That
was
cool,
and
so
I
rewrote
my
little
calculation
script.
So
theoretically,
it's
correct,
but
you
know,
if
you,
if
you
think,
there's
an
error.
Let
me
know
so.
If
you
want
points
from
today's
show
there
it
is
in
the
sidebar
or
in
the
chat.
So
narendev
has
caught
up
to
noah,
friction
good
job
and
then,
but
we
still
have
joe
fuzz
and
netherlands
hackham
in
the
running
and
then
jay
walter
and
sausage
crumbs.
B
We
actually
have
a
mini
way
tie
for
300
points,
so
I
pulled
the
top.
You
know
I
kind
of
pulled
the
top
two
that
I
remember
seeing
the
names
kind
of
go
by
you
know,
but
you
can
always
get
points
by
joining
our
discord.
You
can
get
points
by
a
bunch
of
other
things
which
is
in
the
activities
file
on
the
github
repo.
So
you
know
check
it
out,
but
yeah
I'm
super
impressed
with,
I
think
well.
B
1600
is
pretty
close
to
the
maximum
number
of
points
available.
At
the
moment,
however,
you
if
you
file
issues
or
pull
requests
against
the
repo
that
will
get
you
points
as
well,
and
no
one
has
done
that
yet.
So,
if,
if
anybody
wanted
to
pull
away
or.
C
A
B
Thinking
and
then
we
could
do
some
oops,
I
didn't
and
if
you're.