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From YouTube: Education SIG (August 24, 2022)
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Meeting minutes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lt8uGpiMFfgws8VF36xtTMaJAeHufha-7Dqz1tjrPGY/edit
A
B
A
Par
for
the
course
every
day,
normally
it's
not
so
early
but
they're
doing
construction
behind
my
house
and
the
whole
house
was
shaking
so
I
was
up
earlier
than
I
wanted
to
be
sorry.
A
We'll
just
give
it
one
more
minute:
please
mark
your
attendance
if
you
have
any
opens
to
add.
A
All
righty
welcome
to
the
august
24th
edition
of
the
education
sig
today
we're
going
to
review
our
exciting
new
github
repository
files,
showing
you
how
we're
going
to
continue
collaborating
on
the
plan.
I'll
talk
about
a
couple
business
items.
Do
we
have
any
new
friends
here
this
morning
wanted
to
introduce
themselves.
C
Yes,
this
is
jacob
cox
with
tritium,
I'm
turning
my
camera
on
now.
Sorry,
I
was,
I
was
invited
by
tom
ritter.
Basically
I
was
a
data
scientist
with
army
capability
manager,
cyber
and
just
recently
came
over
to
a
tritium
a
few
months
ago,
working
as
a
solutions
architect
for
them
and
we're
doing
some
work
in
the
space
of
cyber
placement
systems.
C
Cyber
security
and
and
one
of
the
things
we
found
that
might
be
relevant
to
this
area
was
with
our
cyber
supply
chain
risk
management.
So
we're
trying
to
find
out
understand
this
group
is
looking
at.
How
do
we
look
at
open
source
software
and
identify
and
vulnerabilities
and
protect
the
users
that
are
pulling
that
software
cool.
A
D
Well,
you've
seen
me
before,
but
I
haven't
been
in
this
group
before
so.
I'm
standoff
request
I'm
working
for
sneak
on
open
source
and
open
standard
strategy,
and
in
particular
I
bet
based
in
london
in
particular,
I
am
yeah
it's
fine.
The
sneak
has
a
developer
education
products
and
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
D
E
Hi
ken
hi
everyone,
I'm
mike,
I
got
an
invite
from
dan,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
work
at
sneak
as
well
too
I'm
with
the
sneak
learn
team
so
for
developer
education.
E
So
anything
I
can
do
to
help
out.
I'm
still
learning
about
what
this
group
kind
of
is.
You
know
I'm
in
the
same
boat
as
dan
here,
but
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
So
thank
you.
A
Glad
to
have
you,
I
think,
you'll,
be
both
you'll,
be
excellent
additions
to
our
merry
little
band
here.
Any
other
folks
wanted
to
introduce
themselves
before
we
move.
A
On
all
right,
a
couple
points
of
business,
if
you
could
at
if
you're
interested
in
collaborating
with
us
through
github
through
their
pr
mechanism.
If
you
could
give
me
your
drop
your
github
id
into
the
meeting
agenda,
I'm
going
to
make
a
bulk.
The
wheeler-
and
I
have
talked
about
this
a
couple
times
that
the
foundation
has
some
the
tackles
set
kind
of
weird.
So
I
need
to
go
explicitly,
add
folks,
eric
bumped
into
this
the
other
day.
A
F
A
Yeah
thank
you
and
if
anyone
has
any
additional
opens,
they
want
to
add.
Please
do
so.
Let's
cover
our
few
items
here
dave.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
our
exciting
new
plan,
repository
files.
F
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
so
based
on
the
feedback.
From
this
from
this
group,
we
we've
done
the
initial
plan
review
using
google
docs,
which
is
great
for
commenting
but
terrible
for
tracking
changes.
So
the
decision
was
made
to
put
it
into
an
md
format
into
git.
F
You
see
a
link
here.
I'll
drop
this
in
the
document
as
well
up.
You
already
got
it
thanks
crow,
so
we've
got
a
repository
here
that
contains
beyond
the
readme
and
the
proposal
summaries
the
three
different
sections
that
we
broke,
the
plan
out
into
collect
curate
content,
expand
training,
reward
and
incentivize
developers
and
maintainers.
F
Those
are
the
three
subgroups
that
are
going
to
be
kicking
off
shortly,
to
dig
a
little
more
in
depth
into
all
the
points
of
the
plan
we
as
a
as
the
overall
sig
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
generally
on
the
same
page
from
a
high
level
with
what
we
wanted
to
try
and
tackle
now,
it's
time
to
start
going
through
and
figuring
out
exactly
how
we're
going
to
execute
and
move
forward
on
those
different
things
so
feel
free
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
different
documents
was
again
there's
separate
document
for
each
section.
F
A
Any
questions
comments,
feedback
about
this.
G
A
Yeah,
my
dream
is
that
we
will
all
have
these
correct
permissions
within
github
to
do
our
work.
As
dave
mentioned,
we're
going
to
split
up
into
three
sub
teams.
Those
three
team
leaders
absolutely
need
to
have
the
ability
to
approve
merge
requests
so
we'll
get
that
set
up,
but
I
want
everybody
to
be
able
to
participate
so
we'll
I'll
be
talking
with
the
foundation,
but
I
have
to
do
this
for
two
working
groups
and
two
sigs,
so
I
want
to
kind
of
do.
A
I
will
make
another
request
back
to
jory
and
khalil
and
jen
at
the
foundation
to
get
a
zoom
meeting
set
up
for
each
one
of
those
calls
get
it
put
into
the
foundation
calendar
and
that
way,
they'll
become
officially
part
of
the
family
and
you'll
have
a
zoom
link
to
conduct
the
meeting.
So
once
each
of
the
subgroups
is
ready
and
they
feel
they
have
a
time.
A
A
All
right
with
us
moving
to
this
new
phase,
we
thought
it
might
be
useful
to
reevaluate.
Does
this
large
group
still
need
to
work
meet
weekly
or
do
we
shift
to
a
bi-weekly
cadence?
So
I
wanted
to
give
everybody
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
that
express
your
opinions
before
we
make
a
group
decision
here.
A
The
three
subgroups
we're
gonna
have
a
group
of
people
and
everyone's
welcome
to
pis
to
participate
in
every
group,
but
I
want
to
focus
the
conversation
I
want
to
have
a
meeting
about.
First
off
collecting
and
curating
content,
so
there'll
be
a
subgroup
of
us
that
get
together
evaluate
what
we
have
do
a
gap
assessment
to
understand.
What's
missing
what
we'd
like
to
add,
then
there'll,
be
a
group
two
we'll
be
focused
on
expanding
the
content,
so
these
folks
will
be
focused
in
on
potentially
writing
training
drafting
people
to
help
create
content.
A
Writing
labs
for
tools
like
skf,
so
they'll,
be
that
they'll
be
more
of
the
materials
creation
will
be
done
as
part
of
sub
team
two
and
then
team.
Three
is
talk,
we'll
be
focusing
in
on
how
to
reward
and
incentivize
developers
and
maintainers.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
really
good
ideas
about
offering
badges
or
conference
tickets
or
grants
or
scholarships.
A
So
I
want
to
have
a
group
of
folks
focused
in
on
talking
about
that
particular
topic
and
then,
as
we
as
those
three
groups
finalize
flesh
out
the
details
of
each
of
those
individual
parts
of
the
plan.
Well,
I
didn't
ideally
come
back
together.
Do
a
final
review
of
what
we
expect.
The
tasks
and
costs
are
going
to
be
we'll
have
a
comment
period
for
the
whole
foundation,
where
I'll
give
the
foundation
two
weeks
to
review
and
add
any
additional
feedback,
and
then
we
will
move
forward
with
presenting
the
plan
to
the
governing
board.
A
B
I
lost
my
window
for
a
minute
anyway,
hello,
yes,
totally
in
favor
of
first
putting
down
my
hand,
so
I
don't
forget.
Oh
no
totally
in
favor
of
switching
this
down,
I
think
judy
did
a
great
job
of
summarizing
it
as
far
as
bi-weekly
love.
That
idea
gives
us
more
time
to
work
on
the
other
things.
B
And
you
know
going
weekly
to
this
point
has
been
really
really
effective.
I
was
skeptical,
but
you
know
definitely
you
made
the
right
call.
There.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
we've
made
a
heck
of
a
lot
more
progress
than
a
lot
of
the
other
groups,
largely
because
of
that
and
just
how
you
run
the
group.
So
you
know
big
props.
While
I'm
on
camp.
A
A
So
dave
has
agreed
to
be
our
section
leader
to
help
us
around
collecting
and
curating
content.
Do
you
have
any
announcements
about
when
potential
meeting
times
might
be
and
again
everyone
is
welcome
to
participate
in
all
the
groups,
but
I
don't
want
to
overload
you
all
with
commitments,
so
you
know
it
will
be
kind
of
an
opt-in
model.
I
will
do
my
best
to
show
up
everywhere,
but
again
not
everyone
doesn't
have
to
do
the
same.
So
do
you
have
any
announcements
for
a
potential
time
your
eyeball
on
dave.
A
F
I
love
zoom.
I
sent
a
doodle
out
to
everyone
who
expressed
interest
in
participating
in
that
subgroup.
The
last
meeting
the
consensus
is
thursday.
9
00
a.m,
eastern
as
the
time.
If
anyone
else
would
care
to
join
that
group,
please
let
me
know
I'd
be
happy.
They
said
anyone
and
everyone
is
welcome.
Hopefully,
that
time
is
is
workable
for
for
most
folks
who
want
to
join.
A
All
right,
our
expanding
the
training
sub
category
is
going
to
be
led
by
our
friend
glenn
glenn.
Did
you
get
a
chance
to
do
anything
and
pull
the
group
yet.
G
When
you
make
me,
no,
I
I
didn't
call
the
group
yet
I
did
start
actually
working
on
the
document
already,
because
I
well,
I
thought.
Maybe
we
agree,
you
know
in
the
meeting
what
would
be
the
best
time
instead
of
yeah
trying
to
mail
everybody,
and
I
also
think
the
the
new
guys
who
actually
are
present
today
would
probably
be
interested
to
also
tag
along
and
share
their
knowledge
and
experience
in
that
field
as
well.
I
think
that's
very
yeah
interesting,
so
I
didn't
pick
a
date
yet.
G
I
think
we
have
probably
like
a
good
chunk
of
the
people
here.
That
also
wanted
to
be
part
of
that
group.
Do
you
have
anybody,
I
think
so
yeah
and
I
think
we
are
mostly
all
the
people
are
like
in
usa
time.
I
think.
B
G
I
don't
know
what
is
working
best
for
everybody.
Actually,
that's
the
issue.
G
I
will
probably
just
reach
out
everybody
using
the
list
to
do
a
small
doodle
with
some
options.
Send
it
out
today
the
new
guys.
Do
you
also
want
to
be
included
in
that.
C
H
Volume
yeah
please.
C
Send
me
the
invites
I'd
like
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
guys
are
working
on.
A
And
for
the
three
new
folks,
if
you're
interested,
I
can
either
hang
on
after
the
call
to
kind
of
explain
what
this
group
is
all
about,
explain
where
we've
been,
if
you
like,
really
kind
of
a
like
a
five
minute
report,
glad
to
do
that
afterwards,.
B
A
I
will
follow
up
with
sal
and
see
kind
of
what
the
status
is
on
the
doodle.
For
that
and
again,
everybody's
welcome
to
show
up
wherever
they'd
like
this
group
will
be
focused
in
on
things
like
scholarships,
digital
badging,
getting
integrated
with
linkedin
and
indeed
and
other
websites,
and
then
things
like
scholarships.
F
Mr
russo,
I
was
gonna
suggest
we
just
move
right
to
that
now,
since
it's
related
to
what
we're
just
talking
about.
Please
all
right.
So
I
was
just
curious
how
we're
gonna
do
the
zoom
setups
for
these
meetings,
and
I
know
you
said
earlier
you're
going
to
make
a
bulk
request.
So
if
there's
any
additional
information
you
need
from
me
or
the
other
group
leaders,
let
us
know
please.
A
A
A
I
So
I'm
not
sure
how
this
one
is
set
up.
Other
foundation,
non-open
ssf
zoom,
account
allow
for
the
existing
zoom
meeting
to
be
reused
at
multiple
times.
That
way,
you
don't
have
to
set
up
new
ones
for
every
single
deferring
time,
for
whatever
the
meeting
is
the
only
contingency
there
is
that
you
still
need
to
have
the
account
credentials
to
log
in
to
stream
to
youtube.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
an
option
here,
but
it
would
certainly
afford
greater
flexibility
and
reuse
of
the
existing
calendar
information.
I
A
B
And
you
can
set
that
up
per
meeting,
so
other
meetings
can
stay
as
is,
and
they
can
go
into
the
settings
for
that
specific
meeting
as
they
set
one
up
for
our
working
group.
Sig
sub
groups,
committees,
let's
call
them
committees,
committees,.
B
Yeah
yeah,
so
they
can
just
do
that.
B
But
great
idea
to
yeah
have
one
ring
to
rule
them
all.
A
I'll
ask
I'll
do
my
best.
A
Any
additional
thoughts
about
that
dave
did
we
address
your
question.
A
A
I
would
like
the
group
to
start
to
define
our
objectives
and
the
scope
of
what's
what
we
feel
we
want
to
do,
and
that
might
also
help
inform
our
three
new
folks
today
about
what
we're
about
so
does
anyone
take
a
moment
to
review
the
readme
file
and
scroll
down
and
look
at
our
objective?
That's
kind
of
our
mission
statement
here
to
deliver
baseline,
secure
software
development,
education
and
certification
to
all
by
our
three
subgroup
committees.
A
C
D
As
you
know,
like
plugging
into
existing
education
work
streams
within
the
members
themselves,
I
mean,
I
don't
think
sneak's
the
only
organization
that
has
a
you
know:
learning
developer,
learning,
developer,
outreach
kind
of
efforts.
A
A
A
One
we
had
talked
about.
A
We
had
talked
about
polling
our
members
to
see
if
they
were
able
to
contribute
any
content
or
any
expertise
towards
this
effort.
So
that
is
part
of
the
plan.
It
is
not
stated
as
part
of
the
mission.
D
I
guess-
and
I
don't
want
to
eat
up
too
much
time
on
your
work
stream,
but
I
guess
I
feel,
like
there's
a
there's,
a
bi-directional
thing
that
could
happen
there
as
well
like
that,
could
be
part
of
this
work
stream,
three
that
you're
mentioning
about.
How
do
we,
how
do
how
to
how
to
reward
developers
or
how
to
recognize
people
that
have
that
have
this
kind
of
education
and
whether
or
not
that
fits
together
with.
D
Efforts
within
member
orgs
basically,
but
we
could
talk
about
it
offline
but
just
felt
like
something
to
mention.
Yeah.
A
And
again,
we've
talked
about
it
at
is:
we've
had
eight
meetings,
plus
two
meetings
in
dc,
so
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversation
and
it's
been
put
into
our
everything
we've
talked
about
should
be
staged
in
the
get
repo
and,
as
part
of
our
smaller
groups,
we'll
be
refining
that
we're
adding
if
we
see
that
there's
a
gap.
So
if
we
missed
that
you
know
pulling
upon
expertise
of
members
in
the
foundation,
if
we
see
that
missing,
we
definitely
can
add
that
into
our
final
proposal.
G
A
So
our
goal
2.1.
A
Any
additional
thoughts
or
comments
on
that
particular
item.
H
I
It
looks
like
on
july
20th
there
was
an
agreement
to
mark
primary
education
resources
and
younger
education.
Resources
is
out
of
scope
for
the
group.
However,
in
the
plan
and
section
I
think
I
said
it
was
two
five:
six
or
2
6
sorry,
high
school
and
secondary
education
organizations
were
called
out
for
engagement,
so.
A
I
mean
we
certainly
can
adjust
that
I
I
have
no
problem.
I
didn't.
I
must
have
missed
that
in
my
review,
because
I
was
going
off
the
actual
planned
document.
I
I
A
I
It's
a
very
different
problem
space,
so
I
wanted
to
call
it
out
here
judy
thank
you
for
pointing
it
out,
but
it
does
need
to
be
resolved
for
us
to
move
forward
and
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
for
year,
one,
but
maybe
maybe
future.
A
Yeah
and
then
we
are
a
lot,
you
know
as
we
develop
the
plan,
we're
staging
things,
we're
going
to
do
in
the
next
12
months
and
then
the
second
year
of
the
plan,
and
we
always
can
have
a
backlog
and
say
someday
we'd
like
to
address
this
problem
and
that's
something
I
probably
would
like
to
state
now
that
we're
looking
at
the
objective
and
scope,
we
can
specifically
state
scope,
primary
and
secondary
education,
while
important
is
currently
out
of
scope.
We
can
add
something
there
to
our
that
statement.
B
A
All
right,
so,
yes,
we
will
definitely
add
that
to
the
scope
that
at
this
time,
high
school
and
secondary
education
is
out
of
scope
of
our
direct
efforts,
and
that
may
be
something
that
is
addressed
in
the
future.
So
that's
a
good
build.
F
A
The
volume
working
group
so
any
additional
thoughts
on
the
objective,
which
is
a
mission
statement.
Anything
we
would
like
to
add
change.
H
I
Because
there
are,
there
are
different
ways
of
defining
it.
There
are,
we
can
clearly
define
like
these
are
the
things
that
are
at
the
boundaries
and
anything
within
that
is
good,
and
anything
outside
of
those
boundaries
is
definitely
out
of
scope,
but
there's
also
the
broader
question
of
like
anything
that
improves
the
overall
education
from
a
security
perspective
of
the
open
source
community.
You
can
say,
that's
your
scope,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
specific
that
we
need
to
be
or
how
detailed.
A
I
would
like
to
be
a
little
more
refined
because
we're
building
a
plan,
that's
going
to
have
a
budgetary
request
attached
to
it.
So
I'd
like
to
not
say
secure
all
the
things
and
have
that
be
our
scope.
That's
drive
a
battleship
through
that
I'd
like
to
be
a
little
more
refined
so
like,
for
example,
if
we
stated
we'd
like
to
improve
the
capabilities
of
open
source,
maintainers
developers
and
contributors
through
assorted
education
efforts
that
might
be
okay,
we
can
iterate
over
that.
A
A
B
No
contrary
thoughts,
but
the
way
emily
delivered
that
lie
kind
of
implies,
there's
a
story
behind
it.
B
Yeah
totally
another
time,
but
that
sounds
like
a
good
fun
story.
A
So
are
there
any
negative
scope
items
like
primary
and
secondary
education,
not
creating
our
own
university
or
collegiate
program,
any
other
things
we'd
like
to
either
back
burner
or
explicitly
state?
We
are
not
going
to.
A
Yes,
we
will
be
creating
content,
we
will
be
training
a
group
of
people
to
give
that
content,
and
we
also
will
be
providing
tools
that
people
can
do
it
themselves,
like
skf
or,
like
david's
porting.
The
training
into
scorm
the
scorm
connect
format
so
that
a
university
could
take
that
class
and
provide
that
themselves
and
without
our
involvement.
B
No,
it
does
just
having
a
hard
time
thinking
of
of
scope
ideas,
but
that's
just
my
brain.
It
has
a
hard
time.
Composing
words
when
other
people
are
speaking.
A
Well-
and
we
don't
have
to
solve
this
statement
today-
we
have
time
and
that's
probably
something
that
we'll
come
circle
back
to
as
we
break
off
into
our
small
groups
in
big
groups,
so
feel
free
to
put
your
thoughts
here
in
our
agenda.
A
If
anyone
has
and
I'll
state
this
christine
I'll
talk
to
you
first,
oh.
A
A
All
right,
so
I
will
leave
you
with
homework
that
the
team
should
think
about
the
objective
and
scope
items.
Please
review
the
initial
charter.
There
are
going
to
be
some
changes
now
that
the
attack
has
almost
approved
the
governance,
pr,
the
112.,
so
that
they'll
be
filtering
down
some
changes.
After
all,
the
charter
files
we'll
do
a
formal
review
of
the
charter
as
a
team.
Once
I
get
those
changes
in
there
and
we
can
talk
about
how
we
want
to
potentially
adjust
from
there
so
objective
scope
and
then
our
sub
team.
A
Our
committee
leads,
please
get
those
doodle
polls
out
and
give
me
a
time
spike
and
get
some
adjustments
to
calendar
invites
there
any
additional
topics
we
want
to
talk
about
today.
Or
can
we
adjourn
a
little
early.
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
for
your
participation
today
really
appreciate
it.
Anyone
that's
interested.
I
will
give
the
50
000
foot
overview
as
everyone
else
logs
off
kind
of
talking
about
what
our
deal
is
here
in
the
sig
I'll
give
you
some
links
that
you
can
look
at
to
read
through,
but
thank
you.
Everybody
look
look
for
some
chatter
on
our
mailing
list
and
look
for
some
invites
coming
soon,
so
we
can
actually
start
refining
and
moving
those
sub
plans
forward,
so
we
can
get
ready
to
actually
do
some
education.