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From YouTube: Education SIG DEI Subcommittee (April 11, 2023)
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B
C
Christine
I
sent
you
a
previous
copy,
I'm
still
updating
some
stuff.
Oh
you
did
thank
you.
Yes,
I
didn't
forget
about
you.
I
didn't
film
twice
can't
do
that.
C
So
I'm
still
I'll
send
another
updated
version.
C
This
week,
I'll
talk
through
some
of
the
stuff
on
there
and
then
I
did
have
an
item.
I
wanted
to
bring
up
for
the
group
that
I
think
might
be
some
very
visible
hot
syrup.
Okay,
that
might
be
a
good,
visible
kind
of
short-term
thing.
We
might
be
able
to
do.
D
B
Chris
Christine,
when
old
school
she
was,
she
went
old
school
and
was
able
to
look
back
at
some
at
some
archives
and
piece
together.
Pieced
together,
the
the
the
spreadsheet
from
from
old
screenshots
I
was
like
man.
That's
that
that
was
a
trick.
We
used
back
in
the
day
when
you,
when
you
couldn't
get
when
you
couldn't
get
all
the
way
to
the
to
the
admin
credit,
but
you
could
get
somebody
who
might
have
had
if
you
pilferred
enough,
you
found
some
screenshots
or
something
you
found
some
type
of
information.
C
C
Hurt
that
hurt
my
feelings,
because
I
felt
like
at
least
you
had
a
key,
even
though
everything's
not
filled
out
so
then
people
can
look
and
know
what
goes
and
what
field
going
through
it
and
that
went
away
and
I
was
really
sad
about
it
and
really
mad
at
Google
and
Microsoft
and
everybody
else
who
I
have
backup
my
stuff.
C
C
A
B
All
right
we'll
see,
if
does
anybody
know
if
Sal's
gonna
join
or
or
Max
I
like
to
give
a
gift?
Okay,
so
I
won't
be
here:
okay,
cool!
So
then
we
so
we
can.
We
can
get
get
moving.
Then
hello.
Welcome
to
this
Edition
to
the
Deni
education.
B
A
subcommittee
meeting
I'm
in
the
car
right
now
I
could
I
could
show
myself,
as
all
you'll
see,
is
me
in
the
steering
wheel
and
God
as
we
as
we
travel
along
along
this
road
here,
a
couple
of
items
we
have
coming
up
the
open
source,
Summit
and
I-
don't
have
I
won't
have
the
agenda
screen
in
front
of
me.
So
if
we
have
agenda
items,
keep
me
honest
with
those
agenda
items
we
have
the
summit
coming
up.
B
We
have
a
couple
of
I
know:
Sal's
got
something
going
on
one
of
her
mentees
Christine
and
I'll
be
up
there
with
a
with
the
birds
of
a
feather
or
is
it
a
brother?
They
just
give
us
like
five
minutes
or
something
like.
B
Either
way
we'll
be
there
for
five
minutes
and
we'll
probably
take
ten
because
well
forgiveness
and
and
permission
to
get
it,
but
we'll
all
be
there
and
we'll
all
be
able
to
to
grab
a
coffee
or
something
or
the
last
time.
I
think
Christine
and
I
had
lobster
rolls.
Is
that
what
we
did
the
last
time
Christine
we
had
lobster
rolls
yeah
I,
don't
know,
but
maybe
we
can
do
something
like
that
again,
that
being
the
case,
we
have
Nicole
back.
B
We
have
our
spreadsheet
at
least
a
version
thereof,
so
that
we
have
something
to
now
work
off
of
again.
So
that's
that's
a
that's
great
news.
I'll
stop
there.
What
do
we
have
on
the
agenda
to
go
over?
First.
D
A
D
F
B
Okay,
so
that's
that
was
the
office
sermon.
What
do
we
have
next.
C
So
a
couple
of
things
on
the
spreadsheet.
C
Got
it
I
get
it,
you
got
it
sure.
Yeah
I
got
it
okay
with
this
spreadsheet
here
in
light
of
everything,
that's
going
on,
I'm,
not
sure
if
everybody
is
aware,
but
the
OMB
has
been
having
a
series
of
town
halls
and
meetings
regarding
the
current
racial
classification
in
the
U.S,
and
some
of
the
group's
names
are
about
to
change.
C
C
The
impacted
name
groups
here
on
the
spreadsheet.
Obviously
I
still
have
to
go
in
and
finish
adding
some
examples
here
and
any
other
details.
I
put
a
link
down
here
at
the
bottom
to
the
OMB
initiative.
C
C
There
are
three
specific
questions
like
one
Middle
East
North
Africa
might
be
a
new
category
on
the
sheet.
That's
one
of
the
ones
up
there.
C
There
has
been
a
call
from
Black
Americans
to
change
the
name
African-American
to
Black,
with
different
subcategories
on
there
and
there's
also
a
question
about
Hispanic
to
be
included
or
Latino.
So
I
don't
really
know
what
new
names
are
going
to
be,
but
I
do
know.
There's
been
a
lot
of
comments
and
a
lot
of
suggestions.
There's
not
a
leading
one,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
called
out
there
and
we're
aware
about
it.
C
The
other
ones
I
just
linked
to
certain
non-profit
organizations,
I
still
need
to
copy
one
for
physical
and
intellectual
disability
and
add
it
here.
I
said
before:
I'm,
not
a
Dei
name,
specialist,
so
I
hope
not
to
offend
anyone.
I
took
the
best
guess
I
could,
with
trying
to
describe
some
of
the
names
defining
women
was
a
little
bit
challenging
for
me.
C
So
for
the
orange
list
here,
I
still
have
a
few
more
I
need
to
add,
but
as
of
right
now,
I'm
at
58
I
think.
C
I've
started
the
first
few
up
here
and
I
added
the
founding
year
and
the
corporate
sponsors,
as
we
previously
discussed,
I
haven't
really
gone
back
and
updated.
It
I
also
expanded
here.
So
we
have
the
website
LinkedIn
group
and
any
other
contact
information
as
it
pertains
to
it,
but
I
think
we
were
trying
to
get
an
idea
of
the
organizational
size
and
the
corporate
sponsor,
so
that
is
up.
There
still
need
to
review.
As
far
as
for
the
conferences,
this
is
another
page.
C
I
took
a
huge
L
on,
but
I
did
fill
out
two
two
or
three
conferences
here.
So
you
can
see
what
it
is
actually
filled
out.
C
I
will
go
ahead
and
update
some
some
of
those
like
RSA
and
black
hat
they're,
not
per
se
Dei,
but
they
do
have
a
big
Dei
focus
in
there
and
they
do
sponsor,
like
RSA
sponsors,
a
lot
of
groups
to
bring
in
Dei
groups
for
free
to
attend
the
conference.
So
I
think
some
of
those
should
be
noted
not
really
sure
how
to
fully
capture
all
the
B-side
stuff.
C
But
it's
there
that's
something
to
be
looked
at
later
on
and
then
what
I
have
here
is
a
key
so
up
here
up
top
it
talks
about
what
actually
goes
into
the
fields
here
and
then
here
I
went
through
each
one
of
the
spreadsheets.
C
So
then
there's
a
description
example
and
format.
So
people
know
what
needs
to
go
and
which
thing
by
spreadsheet,
probably
a
little
cleanup
here
with
organization
owner
that
could
probably
be
the
same
under
orgs
list
and
conferences.
But
here's
something
here
to
get
us
started,
that's
something
that
can
be
kind
of
fixed
later
on
and
then
last
here
is
references.
I
still
have
some
I
need
to
add
here.
These
were
existing
URLs.
C
That
I
found
that
had
lists
of
different
groups
after
looking
and
going
through
this
I
definitely
say
the
neurodivergent
groups,
it's
probably
something
to
kind
of
focus
on
and
and
get
some
additional
names.
The
best
one
I
found
that
had
stuff
listed
was
a
neurodivergent
group
for
the
UK.
C
C
But
let's
update
to
kind
of
get
started,
wasn't
sure
if
there
was
something
else
from
a
bigger
area.
I
need
to
add
on
here
before
I
update
it
to
the
slack
Christine
has
a
copy
as
well.
D
C
C
To
make
sure
we
got
40
orgs
clearly
defined,
and
then
you
know
that's
where
you
cut
it
to
show
to
people,
and
then
we
still
are
working
on
other
ones.
That's
fine,
I'm,
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
all
the
right
Fields
here
where
people
can
look
across
and
gather
the
information
that
they
need,
especially
I,
guess
from
our
standpoint
as
far
as
initiatives
we
want
to
get
behind
a
future
thing:
I'm
thinking
about
another
tab
for
kind
of
organizations,
that
kind
of
provide
training
to.
A
C
F
If
I
can,
if
I
can
get
access
to
it,
I
know
direct
contacts
for
several
of
the
organizations.
D
C
So
I
will
I
will
so
do
we
want
to
have
a
I?
Think,
that's
a
good
point.
Do
we
want
to
have
another
column
that
we
have
pocs
and
we
keep
that
internally
within
the
group
versus
what
we
might
publicly
put
out
because
I
know
there
was
part
of
this
that
there
is
no
list
right.
E
I
think
that
should
be
an
internal
thing
and
not
shared,
because
again
some
people
are
more
conscientious
about
their
privacy
than
others.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
respect
that.
F
D
D
So
I
will
take
the
action
item
of
moving
up
copying
your
sheet
or
making
it
a
Google
doc
sheet
and
then
share
it
across
I
might
even
just
use
the
same
link
that
I
had
for
the
ones
and
just
like,
replace
or
replace
the
tabs
and
then
and
share
it
out
as
well.
D
So
then
Nicole
once
I
do
that
you
can
kind
of
like
put
any
updates
in
that,
and
anybody
who
wants
access
to
add
columns
I'll
go
by
I'll
share
based
on
the
Gmail
information
or
email
that
you
have
in
the
in
the
subcommittee.
Information.
C
C
I
will
upload
this
to
slack
2
just
so
some
people
can
see
and
be
familiar
with
it.
I
was
going
to
add
a
couple
of
information
like
I,
probably
might
go
back
and
just
check
these
corporate
sponsors
for
the
first
10.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
there's
a
completed
example
on
most
of
the
sheets
and
then
also
ask
some
people
to
look
at
some
of
the
category
names
to
make
sure
it's
not
offending
anybody.
D
C
C
C
D
B
B
I
I
I've
hit
that
and
say
why?
Don't
we
just
say
any
gender
identity,
I,
don't
I,
don't
it's
because
I!
My
fear
here
is
that,
although
this
is
going
to
continue
to
be
a
working
document,
my
fear
here
is
that
as
people
continue
to
not
just
for
the
purpose
of
the
group
but
for
the
purpose
of
self
individually
identified
that
list
and
that
and
those
those
names
could
be
just
as
fluid
as
the
changing
of
the
underrepresented
group
that
we
have
here
in
the
asterisk.
B
If
we
just
put
any
gender
identity
that
that
eliminates
the
need
to
change
and
also
it
takes
away
you
you,
you
are
becoming
more
inclusive
because
now
you're
not
rendering
someone
to
a
specific
that
this
is
just
my
suggestion,
of
course,
I'm
willing
to
hear
what
everybody
else
says.
But
you're
not
you
know,
we
are
all
individuals
in
cyber
and
Tech,
regardless
of
whether
you're
male
or
female,
and
that
shouldn't
matter
one
way
or
the
other.
B
So
you
know
I
I.
Any
gender
identity
should
move
here,
but
I'm
willing
to
hear
the
suggestions
and
input
from
others
who
are
who
might
be
directly
or
indirectly
affected
by
making
a
qualification
such
as.
A
G
I
think
I
think
sorry,
just
just
to
jump
in
here.
I
was
kind
of
waiting.
My
time
to
to
mention
the
gender
piece.
I
mean
men
are
not
an
underrepresented
group
right,
so
you
know
the
column
headings
underrepresented
groups.
So
it's
really
a
mechanism
for
defining.
You
know
capsules
for
underrepresented
genders
in
you
know,
attacker
and
cyber
security,
I'm
I'm
very
flexible
about
how
we
do
that
right.
B
Okay,
oh
no
I'm
with
you
I'm
with
you
I
said
also,
but
based
on
that
logic,
underrepresented,
gender
I'm,
with
it
I
I,
hell,
I,
would
even
say,
don't
even
put
in
tech,
security,
just
underrepresented,
gender
period.
G
C
Okay,
okay,
so
I,
guess
that
once
it
goes
up,
feel
free
to
change
it.
I
have
no.
Prior
to
authorship.
I
was
just
trying
to
make
sure
I
had
the
category.
There
is.
B
Once
again,
I
mean
God
the
the
extra
work
that
goes
into
this-
and
this
is
even
this
makes
even
more
of
a
of
a
business
case
for
for
our
our
proposal
for
the
larger
for
the
larger
initiative,
so
that
this
this
I
mean
this
right
here,
especially
when
you're
looking
at
the
the
ones
in
Astrid
that
we've
been
talking
about
now
for
the
last
10
or
20
years,
I
mean
I,
I
mean
I,
got
this
conversations
about
some
of
these
that
go
back.
B
I
I,
remember
a
old
interview
that
Smokey
Robinson
gave
this
was
like
20
years
ago.
B
This
is
like
this
is
20
years
ago
anyway.
Excellent,
excellent,
excellent
work.
C
Any
group
that
uses
Hispanic,
Middle,
East,
North
Africa
and
black
gonna
have
a
name
change,
I'm,
pretty
sure
from
the
one
town
hall
that
I
listened
to
I,
don't
know
what
it's
gonna
be.
Nobody
was
in
agreement
on
what
the
term
would
be
so
I'm,
not
sure
and
I'm,
not
sure
how
they're
going
to
subdivide
Asian
continent.
So.
C
D
Yeah
one
one
thing
I
noticed
from
like
going
through:
at
least
this.
The
information
that
I
had
as
a
snapshot
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
organizations
and
communities
are
very
much
U.S
eccentric.
Maybe
your
list
of
organization
has
a
lot
more,
but
it
feels
like
you
probably
need
to
default
default.
The
other
area.
C
The
international
ones
I
wholeheartedly
agree
like
I
said:
I
was
just
trying
to
get
us
a
good
nucleus
yeah
we're
just
going
to
be
expanding.
C
Yeah,
like
I,
said:
I
initially
did
initial
comb
through
LinkedIn
with
some
of
the
stuff.
So
as
we
further
use
the
information
to
determine
who
we
go
with,
then
we
can
add
subcategories
yeah.
E
B
This
will
be
a
focal
point
of
any
other,
as
I
said
before
last
time,
I'm
trying
to
get
nithya
on
the
call
at
the
LF
level
see
if
we
can
align
on
Deni
across
the
LF
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
This
spreadsheet
will
be
a
focal
point
of
that
conversation.
I'm
just
I
mean,
like,
like
I,
said
this
this
this
work
here,
it's
a
first
of
its
kind.
You
don't
see
it
anywhere
else.
B
Other
organizations
will
be
asking
us
for
this
kind
of
work
once
they
get
wind
of
it,
just
because
it's
Consolidated
and
in
one
place
like
this,
you
know
so
excellent.
B
Come
out
there
and
see
you
too
I
know
I
noticed
you
got
the
the
BJJ
shirt
on
there.
B
B
D
Yeah
I
put
that
in
there
I
was
hoping
Sal
would
be
on
the
call,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
the
the
the
governing
board
are
kind
of
like
looking
through
the
funding
and,
if
there's
any
kind
of
like
road
map
tweaks
or
things
that
we
think
we
can
work
on
right
now,
regardless
of
where
funding
goes.
Those
are
the
kind
of
items
that
would
have
been
interesting
to
talk
about
now
or
is
there
anything
we
need
to
clarify
regarding
the
roadmap?
D
B
We'll
we'll
table
it
for
for
next
time
or
so
yeah
I.
E
Know
we've
talked
in
the
past
about
like
the
portfolio
review
and
mentorship,
and
it's
been
conversation.
We
have
some
notes,
but
I
would
love
to
see
if
I
could
get
those
items
actually
put
into
the
plan,
because
those
are
I
think
pretty
concrete
and
cheap
to
do.
I
don't
know
that
they
cost
a
lot
of
money.
It's
just
volunteer
donation,
a
Time
mainly
and
I-
think
that
would
be
an
excellent
build
because
we
thought
that
those
would
be
very
impactful
to
the
the
new
folks
get
kind
of
coming
up
through
the
career
path.
A
E
B
Oud
we
got
so
we
get
we're
getting
a
few
additions
to
the
to
the
agenda
happening
here
and
there
are
all
coming
from
Jessenia.
It
appears
so
go
ahead,
just
say:
yeah,
take
it
away.
F
So
our
mentorship
is
open,
I
kind
of
spam
slack
this
morning.
So
if
you
can
share
with
any
any
entry
level
that
is
interested
in
software
security,
engineering,
so
building
out
the
tool
chain
or
security
research,
that
would
be
amazing,
I
reached
out
to
the
one
you
sent
me
Jay,
let
her
know
and
reminded
her.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
then
on
the
alpha
omega
side,
our
University
program,
I
shared
our
document.
F
It's
like
an
outline
of
how
we're
envisioning
it
and
then
Purdue
is
going
to
set
up
a
three
VIP
team
to
tackle
some
of
the
open
source
ecosystem
issues
and
that's
their
document.
So
just
sharing
for
visibility
and
extra
brains.
B
Excellent
and
and
I
know
that
you
said
this
was
this
is
getting
ready
for
the
fall
right.
So
are
you?
Are
you
still
on?
Are
you
still
on
target
for
the
fall.
F
For
the
fall,
yes,
we
have
Purdue
in
the
fall
and
then
UT
Dallas
for
the
fall,
the
mentorship
in
the
summer.
We're
going
to
be
using
that
kind
of
as
the
pilot
and
then
anything
that's
worked
there.
It's
going
to
be
transferred
over
to
the
fall
I
think
the
next
step
would
start
securing
spring
or
what
is
it
winter
and
universities?
Have
it
weird,
but
I'm
in
Florida,
so
I
just
see
the
same
weather
so
I
don't
know
when
winter
starts.
B
Lucky
you
do,
you
need
any
additional
resources
for
any
of
these
things.
F
I
think
just
review
and
then,
if
anybody
you're
I
know
somebody
messaged
me
on
the
slack
for
for
or
winter
term
would
be
nice
to
start
talking
to
them
about
winter.
Okay,.
F
Some
universities
will
probably
continue
with
Purdue
and
UT
Dallas,
but
maybe
bring
on
another
University
starting
January
of
next
next
year,
so
that
we
can
continue
trickling
and
as
we
continue
with
the
different
semesters.
We
add
more
universities
into
the
program.
G
F
I'm
waiting
for
Jennifer
to
release
an
open,
ssf
post
with
a
lovely
little
graphic
and
then,
but
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
blast
now
more
than
welcome
to
I'm
just
waiting
for
that.
One.
D
Yeah
I
added
that
in
there
this
came
from
last
call
and
I
think
we
might
have
missed
the
window.
We
were
trying
to
get
something
in
the
books
for
this
week
before
kubecon.
Thank
you.
Con
is
next
week
and
everyone's
going
to
be
really
busy
from
then
on
for
a
couple
of
weeks,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
Just
like
what
are
we
thinking?
D
What
do
we
want
to
do
next
in
that
oven
and
the
goal
is
again,
a
lot
of
this
came
from
South
saying
that
she
gets
asked
a
bunch
of
questions
for
per
month
and
if
you
could
just
like
funnel
that
into
one
one
di
office
hours
for
the
Osco
is
maintainers
ETC.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
So,
with
that
in
mind,
do
we
want
to
kind
of
like
still
do
it
in
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks
or
push
that
to
probably
later
on.
F
A
D
B
So
if
you
want
to
set
it
up
timing
of
Omega
mentorship
and
then
maybe
we
can
do
something
monthly
have
like
a
a
either
beginning
or
end
of
the
month.
D
So
they're
saying
sometimes
towards
the
end
of
April
for
the
Alpha.
F
Omega,
it
could
be
next
week
or
the
following
week
as.
B
I
think
next
weekend
is
a
b-sides
and
then
going
right
into
RSA,
which
goes
right
into
the
open,
open,
summon
is
about
a
week
after
that
we
could
week
and
a
half
after
that,
I'm
not
sure,
what's
happening
in
the
middle
of
RSA
in
the
open
Summit.
This
is
this
is
getting
buck
wild.
They
didn't
start.
You
need
to
cut
this
out
space
this
stuff
out.
B
F
Think
I
think
with
a
week
of
marketing.
We
should
be
good
so
end
of
next
week,
so
April
19th,
20
21st
or
at
the
beginning
of
the
following
week,
24
for
25th
anywhere.
B
Well,
I
know
the
24th
through
the
27th
and
28th
is
RSA,
I,
I,
I
may
or
may
not
be
outside
I
got
an
expo
pass,
but
I
really
I
kind
of
boycotted
our
RSA
years
ago.
Just
because
it
just
the
minute
I
saw
like
models.
B
B
It
was
like
oh
God,
I
can't
do
this
anymore.
I
stopped
I
was
like
oh
no
I'm,
not
I
I,
can't
the
worst
conference,
yeah
I
couldn't
do
it
I
couldn't
do
it
after
that,
like
that
it
just
became
too
much.
I
was
like
this.
Is
it
that
people
walking
around
people
are
wearing
like
they're,
getting
swag,
backpacks
and
wearing
them
the
same
day
and
then
filling
them
up,
and
the
models
are
pretending
to
talk
about
tech
and
then,
of
course,
the
cast
members
from
this
show
yeah
yeah
no.
B
B
No,
no
they're
not
going
to
give
you
alcohol,
although
if
they
did
more
people,
will
attend
actually
it'd,
be
and
be
more
realistic
to
what
we
go
through
during
the
course
of
the
day,
if
they
ever
handed
out
like
little
those
little
like
little
small
things
of
of
vodka
or
scotch
or
something
like
that,
every
side,
every
true
cyber
professional
would
line
up.
This
is
the
conference
for
us.
They
get
it.
They
understand.
B
Yes,
yes,
everybody
and
afterwards
too,
that's
right.
All
right,
good
deal,
I.
A
B
D
Some
great
things:
oh
there's
a
couple
of
things
going
back
to
the
office
hours.
If
you
want
to
do
it
between
the
19th
and
the
24th,
do
you
want
to
pick
a
a
day
because
I
know
Kobe
said
last
time
that
you
could
potentially
link
up
with
Jen
Bly
and
put
and
set
something
up?
And
what
would
you
need
for
us
to
actually
do.
D
D
D
F
Thursday
between
12
and
3
seem
Thursday.
The
20th
okay
right
now
is
free,
make
sure
nothing
personal
between
what
what
time
is
again
11
and
3.
B
C
C
So
since
I
have
been
checking
on
some
of
the
Cyber
stuff,
I
found
out
they're
redoing,
the
White
House
stem
Workforce
strategy
and
they
had
these
Town
Halls,
which
were
strongly
dominated
by
Academia
education
people
and
to
me
not
enough
stem
professional
people,
and
so
the
group
actually
is
looking
for
input
for
all
people
and
they
set
up
a
LinkedIn
group
and
they
have
an
email
address
and
I
can
upload
all
of
that
there,
because
I
thought
that
might
be
useful
as
we
look
to
do
certain
initiatives
that
you
would
already
have
a
list
of
pocs
from
various
Dei
organizations,
not
only
dni
but
Dei.
C
But
they
also
have
a
thing
where
they're
setting
up
office
hours,
where
they
can
have
a
conversation
and
take
a
perspective
with
different
organizations
or
groups,
and
so
I
can
provide
that
email.
But
I
think
that
will
be
some
good,
easy,
low
hanging
fruit.
If
we
could
agree
on
three
or
four
topics
and
set
up
a
meeting
and
then
say
we
gave
input
yes
for
their
Outreach
for
stem
planning
and
all
it
took
was
us
coming
together
on
three
points
and
talking
with
them
for
30
minutes.
C
D
C
B
We
got
we
got
20
minutes
right
now,
unless
you,
unless
you
want
to
do
it
another
time.
The
thing
about
these
three
to
five
bullet
comments
of
bullet
marks
that
we
may
want
to
may
want
to
discuss.
I
mean
there's
I,
don't
see
a
point
in
waiting
on
that
we
can
come
up
with
three
to
five
bullet
comments
and
then
send
this
email
out.
We
can
do
that.
We
can
do
that
this
week.
B
We
can
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
things
that
we're
currently
actively
doing
the
mentorship,
the
mentorship,
no,
no
internship
stuff,
the
the
the
list
that
we're
putting
together
with
all
of
these
organizations
and
understanding
what
the
different
names
that
are
coming
up,
the
different
groups
and
and
but
then
how
do
we
make
sure
and
make
make
sure
that
we
maintain
a
type
I
across
and
not
just
what
we
do
here
domestically
but
internationally
as
well,
when
things
are
going
on
elsewhere
and
how
we
can
be
better
Partners,
especially
since
this
is
a
White
House
thing.
B
How
can
we,
as
you
know,
how
can
we
become
better
Partners
globally
towards
a
lot
of
these
efforts
in
Sim
right
I
mean
we
can
we
can
talk
about
that?
You
know
like
there.
We
have
stuff
here
that
we
can
bring
up.
That's
that
benefits
or
is
impactful
to
what
we
have
going
on
on
our
roadmap,
but
that
could
possibly
be
also
impactful
to
others.
That
would
hear
our
questions
and
and
take
in
our
suggestions
at
that
at
the
White
House
level.
A
D
So,
do
you
want
to
talk?
You
wanted
to
talk
about
the
three
topics
right
now
and
what
we're
gonna
figure
out
and
put
on
the
email,
or
do
you
want
to
do
it?
Async,
I
guess,
because
I
haven't
seen
the
email,
I'll.
B
Leave
that
up
to
the
I'll
leave
that
up
to
up
to
to
the
team
here
I
mean
we
can
we
can.
We
have
17
minutes
here.
We
could
take
17
minutes
and
do
this
since
since
we're
through
our
agenda
and
our
opens,
we
could
take
17
minutes
to
do
it
or
we
can
take
it
offline
into
slack
and
just
throw
us
comments
down
there
up
to
the
people
up
to
the
people
in
the
room
here.
F
D
C
Thing
the
only
thing
I
would
say
when
we're
giving
input
is
to
really
give
the
input.
I
would
say
to
two
things:
one
being
a
group
of
stem
professionals
right
as
far
as
what
scene
what's
needed.
C
What's
worked
kind
of
for
people
in
the
workforce,
because
part
of
this
is
part
of
the
initiative
behind
this
is
increasing
the
stem
Workforce
and
a
lot
of
people
on
the
call
focused
on
trying
to
educate
the
youth,
but
there's
still
a
good
portion
of
the
stem
Workforce.
That's
leaving
early
or
not
retaining
people
in
the
stem
Workforce
right
and
then
also
leveraging
open
source
as
a
teaching
point
at
all
levels.
A
C
Might
not
be
able
to
get
a
job,
but
you
could
get
some
experience,
volunteering
with
an
open
source
group
and
focusing
on
the
security
that
could
help
you
just
the
same
right
and
especially
as
people
are
looking
at
expanding
open
source
and
Supply
Chain
management.
All
of
those
things
wrapped
around
with
using
open
source
I
think
it
is
not
heavily
marketed
as
a
tool
that
can
help
educate
everyone,
so
that
would
that
would
be
my
two
cents
to
kind
of
focus
in
there,
because
none
of
that
was
brought
up
in
the
one
session.
C
I
listened
to.
It
was
really
a
bunch
of
Educators
complaining
about
the
problems
in
education,
a
couple
grad
students
who
felt
like
their
Grant
programs,
weren't,
preparing
them
and
I
just
don't
feel
like
they
got
a
good
representation
of
stem
professionals
period
right,
not
even
Dei,
just
period
as
far
as
what
people
are
looking
for,
and
how
do
you
really
train
people
for
jobs
that
don't
exist
10
years
in
the
future?
Right.
A
B
Okay,
so
if
we
were
to
button
that
up
into
like
a
bullet
comment,
I
mean
I'm,
starting
with
retention
and
reclamation,
especially
when
we
talk
about
you
know:
people
leaving
the
profession
how
to
how
to
keep
that
experience,
how
to
keep
that
experience
and
keep
them
from
leaving,
but
then
also
how
to
take
the
coders
who
want
to
be
who
want
to
be
Security
Professionals
and
then
you
know
kind
of
because
regardless
you
know,
coding
is
as
part
of
the
game,
how
to
reclaim
them
into
into
security
and
then
and
then
and
then.
E
I
I
feel
we
should
start
off
talking
about
the
efforts
of
the
foundation
and
the
Sig.
We
have
a
body
of
material
that
is
freely
available
and
is
targeted
at
both.
You
know
newcomers
existing
people,
people
are
trying
to
switch
careers.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunity,
a
lot
of
material
that's
available,
and
we
also
have
commitments
that
we're
going
to
be
making
new
material
to
focus
in
on
different
personas
and
whatnot.
E
So
I
think
that's
a
great
starting
point,
and
then
we
could
move
into
the
ideas
about
like
the
digital
portfolio,
curation
and
the
mentorship,
and
then
talk
about
internships.
So
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
ways
that
I
would
start
off
with
the
fact
that
the
foundation
is
already
working
on
this
trying
to
provide
these
materials
to
any
learner
anywhere
of
any
skill
level,
and
these
are
skills
we
feel
are
necessary
to
continue.
Not
only
you
know
the
the
profession,
but
also
to
help
people.
B
Okay,
so
so
that
so
that's
a
wow,
so
we
we
have
a
one,
that's
kind
of
a
some
something
that's
very
profession
in
nature,
and
then
we
have
something:
that's
very
professional
but
specific
to
to
what
we
do
in
the
end
in
the
OS
itself,
which
both
are
are
are
outstanding.
How
do
we
articulate
that
better
than
because
I
I
think
I
think
that
you
know
both
of
these
should
be
included,
I'm,
not
sure
if
they
should
be
included
in
the
same
in
the
same
conversation?
B
At
the
same
time,
they
might
be
different
discussions,
we
could
make
them
the
same
discussion
but
I
think
if
we
had
three
to
five
bullet
comments
and
we
only
had
15
minutes,
that's
kind.
That's
like
you,
you're
going
they're,
not
even
on
different
ends
of
the
spectrum,
they're
just
two
different
spectrums,
all
together,
all
right.
Where
do
we
go?
D
And
I
quickly,
just
sharing
the
email
information
I
got
from
Nicole,
and
this
is
the
document
that
might
give
you
more
context
and
looks
like
they
are
looking
for
you
to
either
send
brief
comments,
but
you
could
also
drop
in
on
an
officer's
session
and
request
to
talk
more
about
it.
So
I
can
also
share
this
with
the
mailing
list.
D
B
B
We're
right
in
line
I
do
see,
though,
and
of
course,
to
what,
when
you
were
speaking
about
before
Nicole,
that
Workforce
area
speaks
to
that
speaks
to
that
a
bit
with
the
exception
of
of
the
the
I
think
the
retention
and
Reclamation
piece
is
not
it's
not
is
not
there.
B
What
could
be
squeezed
in
there
depending
upon
how
you're
talking
about
it
with
each
one
of
these
specific
I'll
call
them
bullets
from
under
under
under
Workforce,
but
of
course,
you'll.
Have
that
other
part
that
says
Workforce
Development
right,
you
know
which
will
talk
about
the
you
know
the
piece
where
coders,
who
want
to
be
cyber
and
internships,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
I,
think
I
think
we
could
cover
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
can.
B
We
can
create
our
bullets
that
talk
if
we
had
one
or
two
bullets
for
each
one
of
these
that'll
be
a
good
place
for
us
to
start
I.
Think
that
I
think
that
the
nine
minutes
we
have
here-
ain't
gonna,
do
that,
though,
so
now
that
I
see
this
slot
now
that
I
see
this
right
here,
I
think
this
requires
a
bit
more
time.
B
C
Me
yeah
so
like
when
they
had
the
calls
they
actually
ran
short
on
time,
which
was
just
so
different
from
that
race
call.
Look,
they
didn't
have
enough
thought
but
I
think
if
you
just
sent
an
email
and
say
hey
we'd
like
to
do
office
hours,
but
we
are
a
Professional
Organization
with
people
located
internationally
around
the
world.
We
would
like
to
request
some
time
in
May
and
I
think
they
would
be
more
than
happy
to
accommodate
that
right,
because
they're
looking
for
input
and
I
can
tell
you
from
that
list.
C
B
Hearing
nothing
Let's,
let's
break
for
Amos
I
know
some
of
us
got
nines
I
got
a
nine.
You
know.
I
got
two
nines.
B
Probe
at
some
other
point
this
week,
though
just
it's
got
us
at
some
point.
We
gotta
stop
all
right
all
right,
guys.