OpenSSF Education SIG, 5 Apr 2023

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Agenda – https://docs.google.com/document/d/18GBwvQJNcPnwxKrnp43DhBZC7K1JM0xzGkDoKh5mu8U/edit#

Slack – https://openssf.slack.com/archives/C03FW3YGXH9

Mailing List – https://lists.openssf.org/g/openssf-sig-education

Git Repo - https://github.com/ossf/education

A

B

Hello, hello, how's. It going.

A

It is going yourself.

B

It's going I'm in a little bit of a louder place, but I'm right in between moving to a place with great Wi-Fi, which I'm excited about awesome.

A

B

A

Wins it's important to have yep.

C

A

Everybody, hello, Glenn.

A

Yeah I do my best to avoid Wi-Fi I like to be hardwired everywhere,.

B

Yeah I'm helping up my new place, I can be uh because whatever was going on, I was in a place where we all had everything wired to the outside of the building. So every time it's beautiful, wintry Seaside Town, it gets a little bit windy.

A

B

It's been nice makes me, look out the window and enjoy my view.

A

Things down, let you appreciate the real things in life. Yeah.

D

A

We'll give folks a couple minutes if anyone has any items they want to talk about today. Please add them to the agenda.

A

While we're waiting, um the governing board is still on developing a process to intake funding requests.

A

We have a beautiful PowerPoint that the foundation staff helped create and I'm waiting to talk with Mike Dolan who's in charge of legal there to. Basically he had they have a q a they want to ask us a couple questions and then I think it's ready to go formally in front of the board. But it's uh we got talked about last time and we got we will be talked about uh tomorrow or all the funding requests are on the governing board agenda for tomorrow.

B

So we'll see.

A

I wanted to note to everybody that call for papers for the open source. Summit Europe, which will be held in Spain in the fall, is open until May, so we had um overall, the foundation had pretty good participation from the membership of submitting talks to the conference at large. So there are several kind of micro conferences there again and there's also going to be an open ssf day. Europe, so I would encourage us, maybe put something together around education or Deni.

A

D

Of different areas, we.

A

Can kind of get out there in front of real Developers.

B

Cool is that uh open ssf day is that cfp open? Yet no.

A

It is not okay, they lag behind a little bit. Yes yeah, uh but I I will ask Jen Bly after this call like when she thinks that'll the open ssf one will go out.

D

A

Had good participation in Dublin last year, so I anticipate that Spain will be similar.

A

I'm going to submit a couple things so maybe I'll get the talk there.

B

A

I know for Vancouver, we have um Sal's Dean I panel and I know um Christine. You had a talk accepted as part of the regular conference itself right yeah.

D

I had a regular talk accepted and, coincidentally, it's the talk is related to another thing, we're doing within the the sem. So it's related to GitHub manager cool. It's a coincidence, because I submitted it before that yeah.

A

Well now you might have a document to like refer to oh yeah, yeah.

D

A

Well, that might be somewhere. We might want to consider uh something maybe doing like an SKF demo that might be interesting. I, don't know how easy it would be to get from you're in the Netherlands right Glenn.

C

uh Yeah Belgium actually, but.

D

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C

Okay, if it's in the in Spain, you said it.

A

C

Yeah, that should be uh quite close by and easy to do,.

A

um I can't recall the name of the city: it's where the Guggenheim Museum is it's in about the head: um no uh bilboa Barcelona, no, not Barcelona bilboa. Oh.

C

Yeah yeah, that's nice, and um do we need to do the call for papers then? Did you say that or I.

A

Would suggest so if anyone wants any assistance and kind of massaging their cfp I'm glad to help out uh feel free to resubmit something you submitted for Vancouver? That's not uh save yourself, some work. Unless you have a newer, better idea. Yeah.

C

I I didn't uh went to the one for Vancouver because yeah it was quite long and wasn't sure if it would be reimbursed and stuff like that right, but this one should be uh more doable. Then yeah.

A

um They're doing it looks like the same micro conferences, they have um container con again. They have a diversity, empowerment, Summit Linux, con open, AI, open source leadership, uh osbokon supply chain. So it looks like kind of the same categories again and we had a lot of success, submitting things to the Leadership Summit.

C

Oh cool, let me uh make a a call for paper requests and then uh yeah, hopefully, I can also be there if I got accepted great.

A

B

Yeah I I will say just circumstantially I found that people are having good success, uh getting acceptances into the supply chain this year and into the Deni. So those are underrepresented, but you can have talks that are in several of them, so I've got a mentee at Vancouver who's speaking in three different subtracts, because you've got a Java project that focuses on security. That focuses focuses on supply chain right, so split across them and see who can get coverage if you're going to go anyway.

A

Excellent advice.

A

All right, let's flip over to our agenda. Oh you already got that. Thank you. Somebody's taking notes for me I appreciate that um what will we like to work on today, together team.

D

B

Sounds like to me, our next I mean our next big movements are going to be after we get the review from the governing board right. Yes, is there much that we can do today? I mean beyond that.

B

um I think really it's just thinking about some abstracts to send in for the next round and um I think also getting a final tab of who's going to be represented at OSS North America, um although I just can look at the website too,.

A

um uh Yeah I have not been keeping a list of everybody yeah.

B

Let me I'll just bring up get the uh agenda for open ssf, real, quick, I.

A

Do have Christine and Sal's talks in my schedule.

B

Particularly on that uh really, if we can look around mobilizing pretty quickly after we get sort of that review from the board done, um I'd be happy to loop back in like middle of next week and see where what we really want to start like actioning on there, because that's all gonna probably take a few next steps on GitHub um and refactor I'd assume that the next steps. What do you think.

A

Yeah I think that's fair, um Christine and Jay. Do we have any um any actual feedback from your subcommittee? We want to try to make adjustments in the plan now for de and I yeah.

D

I was actually thinking when you, uh when I was reading the slack channel that you probably want to focus on that uh next, with a Dei to see what how we want to figure out the plan.

A

Yeah, if there's specific actions we want to take- or you know, if we want to say we want to pile it with this organization or that organization, it might be helpful to get it in there.

D

Yeah, so we have a a subcommittee meeting next week. We can finally focus on that topic. Okay,.

A

And I I expect just kind of looking at you know the economy and whatnot I think we'll get the most pushback on section three of our plan, the rewards piece so I think we should um maybe spend a couple Cycles thinking about what alternatives or ways to achieve some of those goals, without specifically like a scholarship or a grant. For example, are there things we still could achieve with uh reduced or no budget.

B

Yeah I think so that's where I really want to have that one feedback group, because that's where it gets really powerful to talk about the Deni and Partnerships potential, um because that I think what I want to be able to demonstrate to them is that this networking and Partnerships is bringing in a massive group of people that are looking to support people into Tech. I.

D

B

Think they should be financially centralized through Linux Foundation, but I would love their feedback on where they specifically are not going to be supporting, and then we can build out our I'd like to build up in part the Deni initiative around those gaps and deficits, because that's where we can go and reach out to Partnerships and say hey. This is our lack and need. But we can get you massive exposure for the partnership.

A

And we also can have you know as a, for example like if we're interested- and we want to say mentorship- is a key value for us. We want to push first, that's something we can do for you know. Air quotes zero dollars.

A

You know people could donate their time to work with folks from these communities uh quite easily and have a big impact there and you're doing the portfolio reviews that type of thing so I think there's a lot of things we can still achieve and not necessarily uh yo I I, don't know what they're going to say: I just I. Looking at my corporation, uh those were our highest dollar uh requests where um things like for scholarships and grants, for example, yeah.

B

But that's also like one mlh Grant away from being outside of this budget, so yeah yeah and.

A

If we had someone that was um excelled or had experience with grant writing and Grant applications that would be potentially useful as well or new people within um you know, like uh Dan works, a lot with open UK, for example, so if they had some type of uh scholarship or uh Grant activities, if we had that connection, we could figure out how we could reach out to those bodies.

B

B

Well, the head of open UK is going to be uh open ssf day so.

D

B

Talk about then and I'm talking to them on Thursday, so I can bring up some of these ideas. They're, definitely interested in engaging more cool.

A

Awesome yeah I, I'm, I'm biased, but at least it could be the time zones that my calls are in, but I get a lot of participation from folks in Europe. So I'm really pleased with that.

A

um I need to figure out a way to get better engaged with aipac, um which uh unfortunately precludes my friends from Europe.

B

Yeah yeah I mean across the board, that's something we got to work on. um Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any tracks in the eni this year on the subject, but there were the last OSS that I found really interesting.

B

um I'll, try to find a link uh and put that in the de and I slack, because there's a really good one. Just before my talk last in Dublin on the subject um but uh yeah so I think today, um the one thing that I've got to follow up on is just getting a list of questions out to everyone.

B

That's going to be on my panel at openssf day and making sure that we're all on the same page and then, if there's anyone that needs to go, get their questions reviewed formally internally before they step on that stage. We've got no surprises, um but that's it on my side. For now. Okay,.

A

Does anybody have any other topics they wanted to work on today.

A

E

Go ahead, Jay sorry go ahead. Sir yeah I do have something so I I got a quick introduction with uh with uh I believe her name is.

E

To talk to her specifically about Deni stuff um and mainly Deni training, and, of course this is in uh this- is serving two purposes one to understand.

E

You know the training initiative, so we can help develop um at the LF level ones that they can trickle down into the openness itself, how the LF is branching out with other organizations and communities regarding Deni, um so that that's that's something that that you know in anticipation of us accomplishing the objective of the of the greater Stig under the under the uh under the working group that we're that we're trying to do so I'm doing a preemptive strike and hit on uh because I had I had the opportunity to get that introduction.

E

So I took it I just wanted to bring that hand. Let you know I'm doing that.

A

That's great yeah is that nithya ruff.

E

A

uh Nice lady um she's been a big supporter of the open ssf, so that'll be a great meeting good connection to have foreign.

A

Additional thoughts or comments.

B

uh Jay, what was that contact one again? I won't put down their name, but just what's the.

E

So so she so she's just was it the C? Is it the CTO Chief open source officer at uh at Amazon, but she also sits on the board of the LS, okay and I believe she does a lot of work regarding Beni at the LF level. So I had the opportunity to get that uh to get to get to make that introduction.

E

D

Okay, that's cool yeah I've interacted with her quite a bit. Oh.

E

Cool cool, so I'll I'll name drop when I speak to her.

A

Great so again, I encourage everybody to consider a paper for the European Summit and um future open ssf day. If you would like uh assistance or a second set of eyes on your cfp, let me know and don't feel bad about recycling something you did for Vancouver, especially if it got accepted.

B

Yeah, um it is generally about 60 different crowd between n, a and EU, um which is good, good crossover, um cool all.

A

Right folks, you all enjoy the rest of your day. I'm sure I'll see some of you at the Vault meeting later.

B

That sounds good and for the updates around the mobilization plan. Where should I keep my eyes out on that.

A

um I will hit people up in slack and I will send a email to the mailing list. If there's anything officially uh stated.

B

Cool sounds good, well, I'm ready for my budget to be taken down to zero, because, let's do it I.

A

Don't know if that's gonna happen, but I feel that is a possibility.

B

Yeah yeah I think that's fine. I can work with that um cool. All right.

A

All right folks enjoy the rest of your day. Thank you for coming. Bye, bye,.