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From YouTube: EDU.SIG - DEI Subcommittee Meeting (June 6, 2023)
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B
A
A
D
B
C
E
A
couple
of
items
then,
as
we
get
started
with
today,
because
I
want
to
see
a
few
things
there,
any
new
new
people,
let's
see
Catherine
druckman-
appears
to
be
a
new
name.
That
I
haven't
that
I
haven't
seen.
E
F
I
I
I
was
but
I
can
do
it
again.
I
I
am
an
open
source
evangelist
at
Intel.
F
I
am
the
co-chair
of
the
marketing
committee
and
I
am
interested
in
this
topic
in
general,
but
I'm,
especially
interested
as
I
see
their
being
alignment
in
interest,
especially
between
marketing
and
this
group,
in
particular
onboarding
new
contributors
member
Outreach.
All
of
those
things
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
bit
of
overlap,
a
lot,
but
a
significant
enough
amount
that
yeah
it's
in
I
feel
like.
Maybe
we
can.
We
can
help
each
other
out
here.
E
Okay,
excellent
well.
Well,
thank
you
again
for
that
for
that
Catherine
and
I
apologize
for
not
my
memory
not
being
as
good
as
it
needs
to
be.
Oh,
let's
see
so
we
have
a
couple
of
opens
on
the
couple
of
opens
on
our
on
our
agenda
here,
so
we
have
a
providing
a
Sig
Journey
for
each
openness
of
group.
That's
happening!
E
That's
a
recap
from
the
best
practices
for
the
group
discussion,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
around
marketing,
and
so
that
was
a
request
from
Sal
and
then
starting
Outreach
to
organizations
on
the
on
the
on
our
spreadsheet
before
that
I.
You
know
I'm
hesitant
on
saying
this
publicly
right
now,
but
we
have
a
very,
very,
very
unique
opportunity.
I'll
save
that
Christine
and
I
have
been
working
on
a
proposal
document
I
started
it.
E
It
was
opinion
by
omkar,
our
new
GM,
who
made
a
suggestion,
Chrome
and
I
said
well.
You
know
what
that
sounds.
Wonderful
and.
E
E
So
so
I'll
I'll
leave
that
there
and
in
terms
of
our
of
us,
the
Sig
Journey
that
we're
getting
ready
to
discuss
right
now
and
then,
of
course,
going
down
into
marketing
and
Outreach.
All
of
this
stuff
is
relevant
to
to
the
bigger
picture.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
an
offshoot
meeting,
not
sure
meaning
to
discuss
that
so
so
stay
tuned
for
that
stay
tuned
for
that
stay
tuned.
E
For
for
for
a
meeting
invite
to
to
to
discuss
that,
because
this
week
is
going
to
be
a
heavy
week
for
it
going
into
next
week's
Tac
meeting
where
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
shine
a
brighter
light
on
what
we're
talking
about
there
but
going
into
the
Sig
Journey
who
wants
to
open
up
with
that.
C
Yeah
yeah
I
can
kind
of
like
give
a
recap
for
those
who
were
not
in
the
last.
C
So
the
previous
meeting
to
this
one
was
the
best
practices
working
group
and
one
of
the
topics
that
came
out
was
related
to
an
issue
that
was
brought
in
from
somebody
who
attended
the
openness
system
day
and
I
filed
an
issue
to
the
tax
about
in
her
instance,
she
was
talking
about
a
journey
for
maintainers,
so
that
maintenance
would
land
on
the
openness
itself
may
not
be
may
not
feel
like
it
is
for
them,
so
they
wanted
I
mean
I
could
drop
the
link
in,
but
they
provided
like
a
an
issue,
would
not
discuss
a
problem
statement
but
also
has
some
possible
solutions.
C
Those
two
kind
of
came
together
nicely,
and
so
what's
going
to
be
happening
on
that
end,
is
that
there
are
there's
going
to
be
like
a
Deborah
devil
committee
and
I
believe
Catherine
might
be
like
a
big
part
of
that.
We're
actually
a
address
that
issue
of
how
to
best
bring
people
into
the
onboarding
experience
and
basically
make
openness
and
stuff
at
the
different
personas,
so
that
initiative
is
kicking
up
in
various
forms.
So
that
was
a
good
discussion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
update
folks
on
this
on.
C
This
call
as
well
so
stop
happening
there
again
stay
tuned,
and
if
you
want
to
be
involved
in
some
of
that,
Catherine
here
spearheading
that
effort
around
devrel
committee
to
help
with
the
beginner
Journey
for
personas.
D
E
And
when
it
comes
to
devrel
stuff,
I
know
that
there
was
a
mention
about
it
doesn't
mention
about
some
Outreach.
There
was
a
mention
about
the
website,
creation
and
I.
Believe
you
just
said
that.
Does
this
segue
into
into
the
next
thing
that
that
Sal
requested
around
marketing
and
all
that
can
connect,
can
those
things
kind
of
be
joined
together?
E
How
I
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
working
smarter
towards
towards
a
lot
of
these
objectives,
rather
than
one
thing
being
one
thing,
another
thing
being
another
thing:
maybe
they
could
be
kind
of
brought
together
for
a
larger
effort.
C
C
And
yes,
I
think
it
does
actually
doctor
I'll
put
it
again.
F
As
as
I
recall,
there
was
a
discussion
last
last
time
with
Sal
in
particular
about
turning
this
into
a
blog
post
or
blog
posts,
with
some
helpful
information
that
the
idea
of
a
sick,
Journey
being
sort
of
energy
presented
as
educational
information
for
people
out
there
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
is
that
you
know
what
it
is
that
we
do
here
and
how
to
get
involved.
But
really
kind
of
you
know,
lay
that
information
out
in
a
very
helpful
way
that
hasn't
been
done
before.
G
Yeah
same
same
here
agreed,
let
us
know
how
we
can
dovetail
our
efforts
and
absolutely
let's
do
it.
E
Okay
and
and
I,
don't
desele
on
the
call,
so
that's
so
God
I
wish
you
wish
I
was
here
so
I
could
dive
in
a
little
bit
more
about
what
what
what
what
her
thoughts
are.
Regarding
that
and
when
I
tell
you
and
look
when
we
get
into
this
next
part,
this
next
part
is
going
to
be
extremely
man.
The
the
impact
of
this
next
part
is
going
to
be
huge,
so
I
I,
like
I,
think
all
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
here.
E
I
love
it
because
I
mean
when,
when
God,
when
I
tell
you
guys
this
next
thing,
man,
it's
gonna,
be
it's
gonna
all
make
sense,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
the
the
I
mean
the
the
work.
The
amount
of
work
involved
is
going
to
be
all
crazy
as
well,
so
so
there
that
goes,
but
going
into
the
next
open
item
then
Outreach
to
organizations
on
the
spreadsheet.
E
Let's,
let's
talk
about
what
that
looks
like
and
then
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
longer
conversation
too.
That
spreadsheet
is
so
Dynamic.
Let's
talk
about
what
that
looks
like.
E
That
I'll
hand
that
to
it's
in
the
cold
since
Nicole,
is
the
the
the
author
of
this
great
work.
A
A
One
I
am
pretty
sure
he
will
start
attending
regularly
at
the
next
meeting.
He
actually
works
at
nist
and
he
did
he
actually
brought
up
something,
but
I
think
we
can
bring
it
up
at
the
next
meeting,
an
organization
that
would
like
to
work
with
us
to
they
want
to
bring
people
to
their
conference
and
they
wanted
to
know
since
there's
a
Dei
committee
at
openssf.
A
How
can
they
leverage
that
to
make
sure
they
are
including
Dei
students
when
they
sponsor
trips
or
people,
to
go
to
the
conference
and
I
thought
that
was
pretty
good?
A
Their
conferences
until
I
think
the
end
of
the
year,
but
I
think
that's
something
somewhat
still
kind
of
related
to
the
list
and
that's
setting
up
Outreach
so
but
yeah
I
have
one
coming
on
I
have
given
him
12
organizations
to
fill
in
on
the
sheet.
I
want
to
make
sure
we
try
and
get
that
sheet
at
least
filled
up
with
what
we
know
by
July.
A
So
we
have
a
more
complete
list
to
really
start
working
off
of
and
the
second
person
I
think
they
will
be
able
to
start
attending
meetings
in
July.
E
So
I
thought
I
thought
that
I
had
you
know
with
respect
to
that
right.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
we're
pulling
in
from
other
organizations
that
that
could
also
be
doing
a
little
bit
of
Outreach
too
right
and
that
and
I
guess
the
way
our
preface
this
is.
You
know:
I
I,
just
got
elected
to
the
board
of
directors
of
of
oasis,
of
Oasis
open
and
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
platforms
I
ran
on
was
d
e
and
I.
E
You
know
advancing
d
e
and
I
in
Oasis
open
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
partnering
with
other
organizations.
Of
course
I
mentioned
the
work
we
do
here
in
in
the
in
the
openness
itself.
But
but
in
that
same
vein,
you
know
the
Outreach
not
just
to
the
organizations
on
the
spreadsheet
but
Outreach
to
other
non-profits
that
can
Outreach
to
organizations
on
the
spreadsheets,
so
I
I
guess
I
want
us
to
start
thinking
about
that
kind
of
stuff
too
right.
E
How
do
we
partner
and
you
know,
lessen
the
load
while
at
the
same
time
lessen
the
load
while
increasing
increasing
the
potential
to
bring
people
in
regardless
of
which
non-profit
organization
they
choose
to
join,
but
that
that
we
reach
out-
and
we
grab
them
anyway
and
bring
them
in
and
they
could
decide?
You
know,
at
least
at
least
they're
in
at
least
they're
in
the
game
right
you
bring
getting
them
in
the
game.
E
I
mean
that's
exactly
what
I'm
thinking
about
like
I.
Like
you
know,
I
I,
don't
know
how
I
I
don't
know
whether
I
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
right.
So
until
we
have
our
first
meetings
and
until
I
see
what
kind
of
influence
I
can
actually
have
I'm
thinking
about,
taking
a
chunk
of
that
spreadsheet
and
say:
hey,
let's
reach
out
to
these
organizations
and
talk
to
some
of
these
folks
and
see
if
we
can
bring
them
in
and
then
at
the
same
time.
My
my
whole.
E
The
whole
platform
I
ran
now
was
partnership
across
different
non-profits
across
different
organizations.
So
who
says
that
who
we
bring
in
can
participate
everywhere
right?
Who
says
that
who
says
they
can't
have
a
toe
in
there
and
every
in
toll
in
every
Pawn,
John
I,
don't
know,
I
I
mean
I
might
be,
it
might
be
aspirational
at
best.
I
might
be
overreaching,
but
my
thought
process
is.
Why
not?
You
know.
A
So
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm,
I'm
recapping
so
with
the
spreadsheet
you're.
Looking
at
this,
as
kind
of
our
first
Outreach
would
be
kind
of
putting
the
spreadsheet
out
there
for
other
organizations
to
vet
and
contribute
to
it.
E
Well,
that
and
I
mean
this
is
an
end.
I
think
we
reach
out
to
organizations
on
the
spreadsheet
period,
but-
and
we
also
reach
out
to
other
organizations
we
can
partner
with
towards
you-
know,
continuing
to
contribute
to
the
spreadsheet
of
filling
it
in
you
know
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
I
think
I
think
there's
an
and
Portion
to
that.
E
I
I,
like
I
said
I,
mean
I'm
I'm
thinking,
I'm
I'm,
putting
these
thoughts
together
in
real
time.
So,
however,
it
looks
I'm
saying
maybe
organizations
might
say
well,
do
we
need
to
pay
to
play
and
a
lot
of
these
organizations.
You
have
to
pay
to
play
and
they
say
well,
no,
you
don't
need
to
pay
the
play
you
can
just
play.
E
You'll
need
to
pay
right
and,
and
and
and
and
you
know
you
have
that
kind
of
thought-
process
too
and
then
says
well
I'm
already
you
know
bogged
down
with
and
of
course,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
just
thinking
about
students
or
thinking
about
I'm
thinking
about
you
know,
people
in
the
profession
already
that
might
be
mentoring,
students
that
whole
thing
right
so
I'm,
a
big
I
mean
my
thought
process
is
expand,
Beyond.
Just
the
subcommittee.
My
thought
process
is
expanding
beyond
that
right
now,
so
I'm
thinking
about
everyone
Under
the
Umbrella.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
kind
of
two
different
things
which
I
still
think
are
applicable,
but
as
far
as
for
the
spreadsheet,
like
I
think
we
can
go
on
into
a
couple
of
different
ways
like
to
me.
A
I
actually
think
this
is
a
good
project
if
we've
got
the
initial
information
for
since
I
know
your
seniors,
not
here
but
she's,
trying
to
get
her
she's
getting
a
college
program
set
up
with
Alpha
and
Omega
that
they
kind
of
develop
a
web
crawler
and
kind
of
an
open
website
where
that
information
can
be
so
now.
A
They
somewhat
group
them
and
not
all
the
groups
are
put
together
right
because
that's
part
of
this
problem
we're
trying
to
figure
out
who
are
the
Dei
cyber
focused
organizations,
and
it's
it's
pretty
much.
You
have
to
keep
digging
and
looking
at
different
places
to
find
out
right
and
then
I
think
that's
a
being
an
open
source
group
I.
Think
that
looks
good
for
us
to
kind
of
get
that
started
like
all.
This
information
is
here,
because
this
is
technically
kind
of
an
open
source
project
right.
You
don't
really
want
one
group
owning
it.
E
Okay,
no
I
mean
that's.
Those
are
those
are
good
points
when
you
write.
These
are
roughly
two
different
things.
Oh
man,
I
wish
yeah
there
are.
There
are
two
different
things
and
I
guess.
There
are
two
different
things
for
for
a
reason.
E
Well,
I
think
start
start
with
square
one.
Then
what
what
would
be
square
one
then
what
would
be
the
the
first,
because
there
are
two
different
things
and
I
think
you
know
you
mentioned.
You
know
somebody
else
coming
in
they're,
taking
a
piece
and
filling
in
the
sheets
so
where
so
for
from
your
point
of
view,
Nicole,
what
do
you
think
is
step
one
and
then
give
us
like
step
one
through
three
or
four
I
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
go
beyond
that.
I
mean
I.
A
To
me
I
think
step.
One
is
at
least
trying
to
make
sure
we
have
that
sheet
with
probably
at
least
50
organizations
and
that's
kind
of
like
at
a
good
cutoff
level,
where
we've
gotten
a
good
representation
of
the
different
groups.
That's
on
there
to
kind
of
go
and
and
share
it,
and
then
you
know
we
kind
of
keep
updating.
A
We
can
have
it
updating
and
then
just
issue
out
and
update
I,
don't
know
once
a
month
every
two
weeks
as
we're
getting
stuff
up
there
then
I
think
once
we
have
it
where
we
feel
like
we
have
a
good
number
of
organizations
represented.
That's
why
I
think
we
would
start
to
try
and
do
some
of
the
reach
out
and
I
think
some
of
that
we
would
just
need
a
good
summary
sheet
like
hey
the
purpose
and
I
can
work
on
to
get
something
started
and
drop
it
in
slack
that
says,
hey.
A
That's
out
there.
That
should
be
on
the
sheet
right,
because
we
have
two
parts.
We
have
organizations
that
are
solely
set
up
to
focus
on
a
Dei
group.
Then
we
have
bigger
known
Tech
organizations
that
might
have
a
strong
Dei
Focus,
that's
still
trying
to
serve
out
to
the
community.
A
So
that
way,
we're
kind
of
doing
to
me
the
vetting
process.
At
the
same
time,
then,
we
kind
of
look
to
how
the
automation
would
go
and
having
that
up
and
kind
of
then
work
to
see
what
resources
are
available
to
Move
It
from
you
know
our
initial
setup,
with
a
spreadsheet,
with
information
to
being
kind
of
self-automated
and
at
least
being
some
type
of
bridge
part
amongst
everybody.
Right.
E
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
step
one
I
I
agree
right:
let's
get
the
let's
get
it,
let's
get
a
good
strong
list
and
and
then
then
we
move
after
I'll
reach
after
that.
But
what
I?
What
I'd
like
to
do,
though,
is
make
sure
that
we
have
a
time
we,
you
know
we
don't
take
so
much
time
trying
to
get
to
so
you
know
we'll
take
so
much
time
trying
to
get
to
50.
that
we're
now
not
taking
enough
time
for
the
Outreach
portion.
So
what?
A
Sometime,
probably
by
early
July,
like
I,
said,
I
got
I
got
two
other
people
enlisted
to
help
and
I
got
another
one
who
I
know
who's
going
to
come
in.
So
if
we
all
I,
think
I
think
it's
at
I
think
I
have
it
at,
like,
maybe
25
now
I
think.
Maybe
I
got
70
organizations
on
the
list,
so
I
give
them.
You
know
everybody
give
everybody
like
a
week
or
so.
A
E
Well
well,
July
is
perfect
right,
so
the
middle
of
July
is
perfect,
where
you
get
by
the
holiday
you
have
a
week
after
that
to
to
you,
know,
get
your
senses
back
after
the
break
right
and
then
we
can
start
or
we
can
all
jump
in
and
start
doing,
some
of
that
Outreach
and
everything
like
that
and
by
that
time
you
know
we
should
be
cooking
with
gas
with,
with,
with
a
couple
of
other
things,
I'm
I'm
game,
can
we
say
something
like
I?
E
Don't
know,
I
now
have
a
calendar
in
front
of
me,
but
whatever
Monday,
that
is
in
the
right
smack
in
the
middle
of
July.
E
C
D
C
And
the
one
thing
I
like
that
Nicole
mentioned
is
I.
Just
I
I
think
I
heard
two
aspects,
one
where
there's
like
a
kind
of
like
a
push-ass
with
well
the
organizations
or
whoever's
coming
in,
and
they
have
us.
They
know
what
they're
supposed
to
do
to
enter
the
information
into
the
spreadsheet
and
there
might
be
some
way
where
we
could
have
like
a
automated
way
with
say
web
crawlers,
and
if
people
put
like
the
right
metadata
whatever
it
is,
I
don't
know
how
that
would
look
like.
We
could
automatically
pull
the
right
information.
C
I.
Think
that'll
be
really
good.
That
way,
we
don't
have
to
actually
it's
kind
of
like
tags
in
the
website
or
something
that
cannot.
Let
us
know
what
types
of
organizations
they
are
as
an
exam.
A
So
to
put
something
like
that
in
or
even
have
one
half
looking
at,
how
do
we
make
sure
it's
secure
and
somebody
else
just
doesn't
come
in
and
just
try
and
take
the
information
right,
yeah,
so
I
think
I
think,
there's
goodness
in
it
that
this
is
actually
probably
kind
of
a
good
little
open
source
project.
For
someone
to
work
on
right.
A
That's
why
I
kind
of
think
a
little
bit.
We
could
kind
of
work
on
kind
of
killing
two
birds
with
one
stone
right,
because
if
we
have
a
good
number
of
organizations-
and
we
have
something
where
people
can
sign
up-
that
can
buy
us
some
time
while
we're
working
on
the
long-term,
automated
solution
right
and
give
people
some
time
and
some
real
data
and
sites
and
things
to
play
with,
to
get
it
up
and
going.
C
E
Okay,
you
guys
hear
me
now:
yes,
okay,
so
I'm
thinking
like
you
know
when
it
comes
to
like
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we're
working
on
and
a
lot
of
the
information
that
we're
producing
as
a
result
of
it
I
think
a
landing
page
for
a
lot
of
this
stuff
would
be
beneficial,
and
it
would
also
speak
volumes
with
a
lot
of
the
organizations
that
we're
going
to
be
asking
to
partner
with
us
and
and
a
lot
of
the
organizations.
E
For
the
eni
it
opened
ssf
or
whatever.
That
might
be
something
that
you
know,
something
that
we
need
to
that.
We
need
to
think
about,
and
I
would
say
in
the
short
term,
especially
if
we're
eyeing
the
middle
of
January
in
the
middle
of
July
that
begin
constructing
how
we're
going
to
outreach.
That
might
be
something
that
we
want
to.
We
want
to
think
about
how
we're
you
know
what
what
our
presence
is
going
to
be
like,
rather
than
us
just
talking
about
it.
E
C
That's
that's
a
good
one,
even
if
we
had
like,
even
if
he
had
like
some
information,
including
if
we
did
any
videos,
whether
it
was
at
the
town
hall
or
the
openness
open
to
our
stomach.
Those
types
of
things
would
be
useful.
F
F
If
we
could
get
somebody
to
write
these
Journey
posts,
an
educational
posts
about
how
to
get
involved
with
any
given
group
that
will
help
us
out.
It
would
get
your
word
out
here
it
would.
It
would
we're
we're
all
working
on
the
same
thing,
really
we're
trying
to
build
awareness
and
increase
participation
and
all
of
that,
and
if
we
could
find
you
know
if
we
could
source
that
content,
there's
a
there's,
a
an
easy.
You
know
place
to
put
those.
So
the
question
is
to
tell
anybody
to
write
them.
F
F
Detailed,
like
you
know,
take
a
take.
A
very
specific
Persona
here
is
the
person
you're
looking
for
you
know
to
participate
and
and
and
very
very
clearly
outline
the
process
of
getting
involved
involved
instead
of
you
know,
extolling
the
virtues
of
the
of
the
group
and
all
the
great
work
that
it's
doing,
but
really
really
lay
it
out
like
how,
if
you're
interested
here,
let's
hand
hold
you
through
the
process
very
explicitly,
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
them.
E
Trying
to
figure
out
what
the
best,
what
the
best
way
to
go
about
be
beginning,
something
like
that
I
mean
you
know
just
thinking
about
what
we
do
have
going
on.
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
it,
but
then
again,
adding
to
my
creator
a
situation
where
we
have
too
much
going
on.
At
the
same
time,
anyone
have
any
suggestions
on
how
we
can,
unless
we
have
some
of
the
extremely
talented
at
you
know
the
creative
side
of
things
and
putting
some
thoughts
like
that
together.
C
I
always
found
that
it
was
easy
to
do
these
types
of
things.
It
was
just
like
if
it
started
like
this.
With
an
interview
with
a
certain
number
of
questions,
it's
easy
to
turn
those
into
a
blog
posts
and
having
somebody
stuck
from
scrap.
F
D
H
E
Right,
let's
put
I
guess,
let's
put
some
time
on
the
on
on
the
calendar,
for
that
then,
maybe
maybe
another,
maybe
a
quick
meet
in
just
a
I.
Don't
know
people
who
want
to
put
some
thoughts
to
paper
who
want
to
get
together
and
have
that
kind
of
Powwow
to
get
those
kind
of
questions
ironed
out
at
me.
E
I
would
I
would
say
that
you
could
probably
do
them
in
The,
Silo
and
then
and
then
or
do
them
and
then
send
them
out,
and
then
everyone
can
have
an
opinion
on
it.
But
what
well?
Let
me
ask
that.
Would
that
be
something
that
somebody
puts
a
document
together
sends
it
out,
everybody
puts
their
two
cents
on
it.
Or
would
you
rather
do
it
in
a
way
where
there's
where
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
working
session
to
put
some
of
those
questions
on
paper
in
the
in
a
group,
format.
F
I'm
I'm
happy
to
do
either
I
mean
again.
These
are
problems
we're
trying
to
solve
over
in
the
marketing
Camino
that
we're
trying
to
solve
trying
to
come
up
with
a
devrel
strategy,
so
I'm
happy
to
put
time
into
it.
You
know
in
real
time
or
it's
incredibly
how
whatever
works,
and
whoever
else
is
interested
in
solving
these
problems.
I
would
love
to
talk
to
them
too.
D
F
E
Are
you
not
on
the
slack
channel
for
the
group
hold
on
a
second
I?
Am
not.
H
D
C
Also
get
some
marketing
out
there,
so
we
can
get
some
people
want
to.
C
E
Is
any
so
I
I
will
be
able
to
attend
the
next
office
hours
I'll
be
there
for
the
next
office
hours
and
I
know
that
sometimes
these
these
things
spring
up
at
the
most
unopportune
times?
Is
anyone
ever
else
able
to
join
the
office
hours
or
I,
don't
mind
sitting
in
there
sitting.
E
I
will
say,
as
I
said,
in
the
best
practices,
I
say
in
this
one.
You
know
if
you
got.
If
you
got
students,
you
got
somebody
who
wants
to
come
out
new
to
the
game.
You
got
people
who
are
changing
careers
by
all
means.
Have
them
join
the
office
hours
very,
very
fruitful
discussions
happening.
There's
some
amazing
questions
that
get
asked
you
know
can.
C
Is
there
anything
we
need
to
do
to
kind
of
help
spread
the
word
from
the
openness
as
well
from
the
marketing
clubs.
E
Thing
about
the
so
what
separates
this
from
I
guess,
a
lot
of
other
things
is,
is
what
we
may
want
to
do
in
the
way
of
marketing.
This
is
this.
This
is
a
very
unique
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
individuals
to
not
just
I
mean
from
a
Dei
perspective,
of
course,
but
also
just
from
what
does
a
career.
E
What
the
what
the
side,
what
what
does
a
cyber
career
actually
look
like,
and
what
does
it
not
look
like
and
how?
What
you
know
that
Chasm
is
is
deep
and
wide.
So
so
what
does
that
act?
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
that
people
have.
E
That
they
may
not
necessarily
believe
is
a
is
a
is
a
valid
question,
but
they
are
very
valid
questions
because
it,
you
know,
but
I
I-
think
that
the
the
Outreach
could
be
something
like
do
you
have
any
thought
or
how
creative
do
you
want
to
get
right?
I,
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
the
wording
because
I'm,
not
a
marketing
person,
I,
don't
know
Jennifer's
gonna
cause.
You
know
better
than
that
I'm,
not
a
marketing
person,
but
this
is
a
unique
opportunity
to
that.
I.
E
Don't
that
we
I
don't
think
any
of
us
see,
but
the
asks
questions,
I,
I
would
say:
I
would
say:
offhanded,
it'd
be
and
Jennifer
just
asked
a
question
in
chatting
them
and
I'm
answering
that
I
would
say
offhanded.
You
know
when
we
think
about
d
e
and
I
I
always
tell
people
I,
just
don't
I'm,
not
just
considering
you
know
the
the
the
the
you
know,
people
of
color
as
well
I,
think
I.
E
Think
diversity
of
thought
too
I
want
those
who
are
who
have
one
career
who
are
saying
they
want
to
change
careers
and
they're
thinking
about
development,
they're
thinking
about
software,
they're
thinking
about
I,
don't
know
breaking
things
and,
and
you
know
what
what
it
come.
E
One
come
all
with
your
thoughts,
which
are
ideas
with,
however,
crazy
that
is,
and
if
this
is
something
you
think
you
want
to
do,
but
you
have
this
other
thing
that
you're
really
good
at
that's
just
wild,
bring
that
and
let's
see
if
there
if
we
can
draw
those
connective
tissues.
So
we
can
build
the
connective
tissue
between
one
and
the
other.
Is
this
something
that
you
could
get
into
and
find
a
pathway
into
based
on
what
you're
already
good
at
or
what
you
already
thinking
about?
E
E
We
have
a
lot
to
to
offer
in
the
way
of
hey
it:
ain't
just
the
ones
and
zeros
a
lot
of
us
don't
even
know
about
the
ones
and
zeros
a
lot
of
us
just
know
you
know
hey.
This
looks
cool.
That
looks
even
cooler.
Well,
how
do
we
build
that
build
it?
This
way,
a
lot
of
us
can't
bust
it
down
the
binary
and
binary
even
means
different
things
to
different
people
depending
upon
how
you
came
up
in
it
right
so
so
that,
like
like
there,
there
are
there's
different
thoughts
here.
E
I'd
say
who
were
attracting
we're
attracting
anyone
who
who's
halfway.
Thinking
about
this,
but
maybe
says,
oh
I,
don't
know
because
I
don't
know
how
to
code.
Well.
Golden
is
a
small
part
of
this.
This
is
it's
a
it's
a
you
know,
small,
but
important,
but
it's
small
there's
other
parts
of
this
too
bring
those
so
I,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
I
can't
give
you
a
specific
who
were
attracting,
but
what
I
can
say
is
if
they're
thinking
about
it
come
on
in.
Let's
talk.
E
I
It's
been
my
experience
that
it's
easier
to
attract
participants
if
they
have
something
first
to
look
at
something
tangible,
so
it
we
may
want
to
think
about
accelerating
putting
together
a
Blog
talking
about
this
working
group.
This
committee,
this
working
group
and
then
transition
in
the
middle
of
the
blog
to
talk
about
the
office
hours
as
I,
get
10
talk
about
the
spreadsheet
as
kind
of
a
thing
project
we're
working
on
and
then
transition
to
the
office
hours
as
another
project,
and
you
know
kind
of
talk
about
what
it
is.
I
What
we're
trying
to
do
that
way.
You
know
somebody
has
something
to
look
at
and
then
it's
much
easier
to
amplify
on
social
and
through
Linkedin
and
everything.
It's
like
hey
go!
Look
at
this
blog
and
FYI.
The
next
meeting
is
next
week.
Come
join
us
yay,
foreign.
C
Next
week
we
could
maybe
we
can
even
just
talk
about
either
if
the
videos
are
available.
C
C
D
I
So
I
have
a
a
colleague
at
work.
My
friend
conference
Kate,
her
job
is
to
help
facilitate
Intel's,
Securities
Presence
at
conferences
and
whatnot.
I
So
it
looks
like
conference
Kate
got
elected
to
help
run
the
call
for
papers
for
an
upcoming
event,
Intel
is
holding
and
it's
a
combination
of
an
internal,
focused
and
externally
focused
thing.
I
So
she's
air
quotes
harassing
me
because
she
knows
I
talk
at
a
lot
of
conferences.
She's,
like
looking
for
content
and
I
thought
about.
This
group
is
one
of
the
first
things,
I
suggested
kind
of
talking
about
our
efforts,
and
this
is
potentially
opportunity
for
us
to
have
a
platform
to
reach
a
pretty
big
audience
of
people
to
talk
about.
I
I
But
you
know,
would
we
be
interested
in
having
assembling
a
panel
talking
about
this
committee
and
our
efforts
and
goals
and
then
I
can
help
facilitate
getting
that
into
the
conference?
Potentially
yeah
I
believe
we
could
do
this
virtually
so
I,
don't
know
that
there
will
be
any
travel
requirements.
I
So
what
does
the
group
think
about
that?
Having
that
as
a
platform
for
us
to
work
on.
C
Yeah
I
I
agree,
and
especially
since
is
the
audience
like
you
say:
It's
a
combination
of
internal
external.
I
Yeah,
so
it's
a
lot
of
Intel
security,
people
and
developers,
and
then
it's
our
customers,
which
is
large
oems
people
that
own
computers,
large
Banks
and
whatnot
governments.
So
it's
it's
a
very
anyone
that
uses
a
computer
potentially
could
be
looking
at
this
conference.
I
Yeah
I
I
would
suggest
we
do
it
as
a
panel,
because,
as
a
frequent
conference
speaker
panels
are
my
favorite,
because
you
know
somebody
has
to
think
up
like
five
questions
and
then
people
just
show
up
and
share
their
experiences.
You
know
have
one
or
two
really
good
stories,
but
they're
fairly
low
barrier
of
Entry
to
participate
in.
I
I
can
work
on
getting
the
the
cfp
put
together,
the
abstract
put
together
and
then
I
would
just
need
to
know
who,
from
this
group
or
other
people
we
want
to
deputize,
would
be
interested
in
talking
on
the
panel
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
interesting.
I
Just
I
would
strongly
suggest
my
friend
Catherine
participates,
because
we
just
talked
about
something
about
this
yesterday
in
our
internal
podcasting
call
to
kind
of
get
her
perspective
on
representation
being
a
lady
engineer
with
an
open
source,
and
then
that
can
be
kind
of
our
Toe
Hold
into
you
know.
I
Why
is
somebody
presenting
an
Intel
conference
and
then
you
know,
having
you
know,
Christine
from
F5
and
Jay
from
Microsoft
and
whoever
else
we
want
to
try
to
coax
into
the
panel
to
kind
of
share
the
good
works
that
we
were
kind
of
toiling
away
at
here.
F
I
Yeah
and
then,
like
you
know,
maybe
we
share
the
story
of
Nicole's
spreadsheet.
How
this
is
one
of
our
big
projects:
kind
of
assembling
all
this
information,
it's
its
first
of
its
kind
thing
we've
witnessed
in
the
industry
and
then
talk
about
the
office
hours
and
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
directly
connect
with
students
and
newcomers
into
the
craft.
I
think
is
some
great
things
we
can
share
and
you
know
hopefully
Inspire
the
audience.
B
I
B
I
So
I'll
I'll
get
a
draft
of
the
abstract,
put
together
and
kind
of
circulate
it
to
the
I'll,
put
it
in
the
slack
Channel.
If
anyone
has
any
additional
feedback
or
if
we
want
to
have
any
anyone,
that's
interested
in
participating,
I'll
get
we'll
get
that
put
into
the
abstract.
So
let
me
know
there
and
we
and
hopefully
well
I,
will
be
in
business
together
in
September
sharing
the
good
word.
F
F
I
H
E
E
Well,
are
there
any
additional
opens
or
any
additional
openings
anything
anybody
else
wants
to
comment
on.
We
got
about
seven
more
minutes.
Seven
more
minutes
left.
A
Yes,
Christine
asked
me
to
follow
up
because
we
missed
kind
of
is
our
open
call
for
the
White
House
initiative.
A
But
you
know
in
DC
not
know
who
the
contractors
are.
So
apparently
they
are
extending
their
office
hours
because
they
are
having
some
more
open
call
meetings.
A
So
if
we
are
still
interested,
we
could
still
set
up
a
time
to
do
the
office
hours
to
provide
input
into
these
education
policy.
That's
being
done
by
the
White
House
office
of
Science
and
Technology,
which
from
this
group
would
just
be
I,
think
we've
got
the
email.
A
Maybe
we
just
need
to
cut
a
couple
lines
out
of
it,
but
we
would
just
need
I,
think
probably
I
would
say
at
least
three
or
four
people
just
to
be
present
on
the
call
and
I
think
we
had
came
up
with
items
before
and
just
talked
to
those
items.
C
A
Yeah
yeah
ssf
address
right
yeah,
but
do
you
think,
since
we
know
they're
still
taking
them?
I
am
waiting
for
my
friend
to
just.
Let
me
know
when
the
cutoff
date
is.
It
sounded
like
they're
still
going
to
be
taking
open
sessions,
at
least
through
the
summer,
but
just
to
help
us
when
we
send
that
email
we
would
need
to
put
in
kind
of
our
availability
on
kind
of.
We
will
be
interested
in
I.
A
Think
that
needs
to
go
into
the
email
so
I'm
thinking
that
something
probably
we
should
be
able
to
coordinate
through
the
slack
Channel
yeah,
but
that
I
still
think
we
should
probably
want
to
get
that
email
out
sooner
than
later,
just
to
make
sure
we
can
get
in
and
get
included.
And
then
you
know
that's
something
else.
We
can
add
to
things
with
them.
B
A
A
E
I'm
about
to
go
into
what
I
like
to
refer
to
as
a
three
beat
in
hell,
I
believe
probe
is
in
a
couple
of
these
meetings
as
well.
If
he
chooses
to
do
it
like
this
I
don't
know.
If
krobe
is
going
to
be
about
this
life,
but
I
guess
I
I
guess
I
got
to
be
about
this
life,
so
there
that
goes.
E
It's
so
thick,
so
if
there's
nothing
else,
I'm
about
to
get
my
get
get
my
phone
two
laptops
and
the
dream
working
and
we'll
we'll
convene
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
all.