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A
C
Yeah
yeah
yesterday
was
pretty.
It
was
pretty
pretty
busy.
I
mean
the
hallway
track
alone,
like
I
saw
so
many
people
that
didn't
because
I
haven't
seen
in
years
because
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
going
to
conferences.
I,
don't
you
know,
I
mean
like
I
I,
really
am
not
a
conference
person?
C
Okay,
so
you
know
RS
and
RSA
got
to
way
too
commercialized,
so
I
kind
of
stayed
away
from
it
for
a
little
bit,
but
but
I
ended
up
going
this
time,
just
because
I
wanted
to
and
I
ended
up
missing
the
social
event.
I
wanted
to
go
to
I
had
to
end
up
having
to
leave
before
the
social
event
which,
when
I
plan
on
going
to
the
s-bomb
talk,
Adrian
Adrian
is
there
and
then
of
course,
Ava
and
then
Alan
Freeman.
C
They
know
they're
all
there
at
the
Xbox
time,
I
plan
on
going
there
by
them
having
to
leave.
You
know
it's
a
bit
of
an
emergency,
so
I
was
like
oh
crap,
I
had
to
go,
but
I
was
but
I
was
there
during
the
day.
You
know
just
doing
the
hallway
track
and
at
the
Expo
and
saw
a
lot
of
people
I
haven't
seen
in
years.
C
B
B
All
right,
let's
try
to
guess
it
started.
Oh,
let
me
drop
the
agenda
link.
B
Does
anyone
I
don't
think
that
anyone
new
now
anyone
who
are
willing
to
kind
of
help
with
subscribing
for
the
meeting.
B
Okay,
it
might,
it
might
end
up
being
we'll
see
how
we
get
through
the
agenda
items.
It
might
end
up
being
shorter
than
it's
shorter
than
usual.
B
Yeah
drop
any
any
items
you
have
in
the
opens,
or
some
below,
but
kind
of
wanted
to
kick
things
off
with
we
did
do
the
office
hours
last
Thursday
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
they
were
a
recap
for
those
who
were
not
there
and
also
any
kind
of
like
thoughts
of
what
what
went
well
or
what?
What
did
we
learn
anything
like
that?
E
Yeah,
so
what
what
what
went?
Well?
It
lasted
the
whole
hour,
I
I,
think
from
the
participants.
They
got
some
value
out
of
the
conversation.
I
think
we
also
have
some
good
marketing
pieces
there.
If
we
can
re-share
the
the
webinar
I
think
between
Sal
myself,
Jay
and
yourself
Christina.
We
shared
good
Intel
for
the
community
on
like
how
to
get
started
in
cyber
security
improvements.
E
I
think
we
could
probably
have
a
I
know
it's
more
of
an
office
hour,
but
to
keep
conversations
going
some
kind
of
agenda
or
fall
back
topics,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
was
mentioned
quite
frequently
was
a
schedule
and
letting
folks
know
like
what
topics
and
things
we're
going
to
talk
about
and
I
think
that
will
help
with
the
improvements.
E
B
Yeah
yeah
that's
good
yeah
I
did
I
did
feel
like
for
the
folks
who
were
there.
The
conversation
did
feel
pretty
freely,
but
having
like
a
a
gender
and
upcoming
topics
and
I,
don't
know
if
it's
too
early
to
start
thinking
about
like
what
kind
of
would
be
the
next,
since
we
want
to
do
this
monthly.
What
would
be
like
the
next
topic
that
we
would
want
to
tackle?
B
I
know
that
probably
that
will
happen
after
after
open
source,
Summit,
North,
American
Vancouver,
so
either
something
in
that
area
or
I'm,
not
sure
I
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
any
like
follow-up
things
that
came
out
of
office
hours,
I
could
potentially
go
into
the
next
monthly
session,
or
do
we
go
and
find
or
find
people
start
asking
questions?
That's
probably
gonna
be
out.
Thank
you.
C
I
think
we.
A
C
Have
a
health
we
have
this
12
months
in
the
year
I'm
saying
we
can
rotate
six
topics
for
every
office
hours,
because
I
think
there
are
six.
There
are
a
strong
six
that
are
relevant
to
to
de
eni
and
relevant
to
how
underrepresented
communities
can
begin
a
career
in
cyber
security
or
can
begin
some
type
of
educational
and
then
there's
so
many
different
aspects.
Right,
there's
so
many
different
branches,
and-
and
you
know
we
don't
have
to
keep
it
specific
towards
you.
It's
got
to
be
cyber
here.
C
It
could
be
it
could
hell,
it
could
be
forensic
for
a
forensic
accounting,
I
I,
don't
know,
there's
many
different
ways
that
that
we
can
that
we
can
that
we
can
skin
appeal
this
pill
to
potato,
but
but
I
think
if
we
have
a
strong
six
that
we
talk
about
and
we
rotate
those
you
know,
I
mean
that
way.
C
We
always
have
a
discussion
that
somebody
who
joins
new
can
jump
in
on
and
and
get
and
get
something
out
of
it
and,
of
course,
if
they're
jumping
in
let's
say
on
the
on
our
fourth
on
our
fourth
topic.
Well,
the
topic
will
renew
again
and
then
three
topics:
it'll
renew
the
series
are
renew
so
they'll
they'll.
If
they
keep
coming
they're
bound
to
get
when
those
and
then
every
year
we
can
change
those
six
right.
C
So
I'm
just
saying
that,
there's
a
we
don't
have
to
put
that
much
pressure
on
ourselves,
I
think,
I,
think
and
I,
like
your
idea,
I
think
we
just
don't
have
to
put
them.
We
don't
have
to
put
that
much
pressure
on
something
with
something
new
every
single
time.
We
start
with
a
strong
six
and
then
rotate.
D
We
might
want
to
think
about
in
addition
to
that
stable
of
six
talks.
Are
there
any
interesting
speakers
or
kind
of
amazing
people
in
the
industry
to
kind
of
talk
to
the
new
folks
joining
I?
Think
that
would
also
be
an
interesting
thing
to
do,
but
again
I,
like
the
no
pressure.
B
Yeah
I
agree,
and
what
could
happen
is
even
if
we
set
I'm
hoping
that
we
would
meet
some
so-called
interesting
folks
that
we
can
match
up
with
during
the
open
source
Summit
in
North,
America
and
start
sort
of
seeding
that
maybe
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
North,
America
Summit
is
start
thinking
about
like
what
are
the
top.
What
are
the
no
pressure
topics
that
people
would
like
to
hear
about
what
are
kind
of
like
the
typical
questions
that
we
got
and
I
think
another
sort
of
like
Ron
topic?
B
That
might
be
interesting
sounds
not
here,
but
during
the
office
hours
she
said
that
the
previous
night
she
had
heard
from
somebody
from
sppx
kind
of
wanted
to
know
some
information
because
she
invited
them
to
come
to
the
office
hours.
There
might
be
like
an
opportunity
to
get
folks
also
within
openness
and
stuff.
F
E
It
started
off
with
talking
about
the
alpha
omega
mentorship,
but
it
quickly
kind
of
like
diverged
into
like
how
do
I
get
started
into
cyber
Sal
had
mentioned
like
site,
reliability
engineer
and
we
kind
of
tailored
into
that
as
well
onto
Jay's
Point.
Does
it
have
to
be
cyber
I
mean
we're
we're
working
on
software,
so
engineering
and
helping
folks
into
the
engineer
as
well
is
beneficial
to
cyber
if
they
have
some
cyber
con
consciousness,
but
it
kind
of
It
kind
of
became.
Like
a
ask
us
anything.
B
Yeah
yeah
get
to
that
point
no
set
agenda
for
now,
but
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
were
discussing.
Do
we
need
one
and
I
guess
the
consensus?
Is
we
kind
of
make
it
more?
No
pressure,
no
pressure
especially
have
who
think
both
come
to
speak
and
also
they
have
like
a
rotating
six
or
so
topic.
B
Anything
else
on
office
hours,
any
other
thoughts.
F
B
Of
the
stuff
that
we
had
it's
an
opportunity
to
advertise
every
single
time,
there
are
more
people
so,
like
the
call
to
action
we
did
only.
We
did
have
like
a
a
call
to
action
at
the
end
of
the
office.
Hours
to
have
people
actually
just
come
and
learn
more
about
what
was
going
on
the
open
ssf,
and
we
can
continue
doing
that.
So,
yes,
I,
agree.
F
Yeah
I
think
I
think
that
should
be
something
I
don't
know
if
we
just
get
a
sheet
of
kind
of
what
we're
working
on
what
we
need.
So
that's
available
too.
B
E
That's
interesting
because
that's
something
that's
come
up
within
the
alpha
omega
group
is
like:
how
do
we
list
what
we
need
help
with,
but
then
I
was
like
how
do
we
get
open
ssf
to
have
like
here's,
the
top
things
we
need
broken
down
by
projects
just
to
kind
of
Point
folks
to
do
we
have
that
grow.
D
Well,
let
me
tell
you
part
of
each
group's
GitHub
repository:
is
you
are
supposed
to
list
areas
that
you
would
like
additional
contribute,
how
to
contribute
in
areas?
You're
look
actively
soliciting
additional
content
on,
so
you
know
if
we
want
today.
This
group
is
welcome
to
leverage
the
existing
education
Sig
repo,
but
if
we
want
I
can
easily
get
them
to
spin
a
repo
dedicated
just
to
us,
so
we
could
either
have
that
kind
of
we're.
D
Looking
for
these
types
of
contributions
in
our
own
or
as
part
of
the
education
sector,
however
we're
comfortable
with,
but
you
know
we
could
make
the
if
we
just
want
to
have
a
page
on
the
education
Sig
today,
I
can
make
that
happen
in,
like
five
minutes
takes
a
little
longer.
A
B
E
We
have
help
wanted
and
good
first
issues
that
if
folks
and
other
sticks
at
it,
we
can
probably
just
filter
and
have
one
page:
it's
like
hey,
you
guys
are
gonna
help
come
to
this,
like
GitHub
dashboard,
thingamajig.
B
B
D
We
want
to
do
issue
tagging
again.
We
could
do
that
immediately
and
then
we
could
have
in
addition
to,
like
the
help,
wanted
and
good
first
issue,
we
could
have
you
know,
Dei
committee,
as
a
tag
which
is
it.
You
know
the
sky's
kind
of
the
limit,
how
we
want
to
organize
ourselves,
but
I
would
definitely
find
somewhere.
To
put
this
is
things
this
group
is
looking
for
contributions
and
collaboration
on,
and
then
we
can,
but
that
should
be
the
model
across
the
foundation.
Yeah
see
everybody
should
be
doing
that.
D
I,
don't
know
that
they
are
right
through
the
tech.
We
can
start
to
more
actively
encourage
that
to
get
the
other
projects
and
sigs
and
working
groups
doing
that,
so
that
we
maybe
could
get
a
Consolidated
list.
E
D
E
B
C
A
C
Take
longer
but
I
think
if,
if
we
get
our,
if
we
get
our
wish
granted,
if
I
get
we
if
we
get
our
long-term
wish
granted,
that's
a
that's
a
shorter
path.
C
B
Yeah
do
both
yeah,
because
I'm
assuming
you
can
move
issues
even
if
he
had
to
I,
don't
know
from
like
one
repo
to
another.
B
B
People
to
like
one
page,
where
would
everything
you
wanted
to
know
whether
it's
like
a
list
of
issues
with
a
particular
tag?
If
it's
specific
to
this
subcommittee,
we
can
do
that
too
or
if
it's
like
a
brand
new
repo,
and
we
look
send
them
to
all
the
issues.
A
But
yeah,
why.
D
Create
it
yeah,
it's
normally
khalil's,
normally
the
one
that
hooks
us
up.
You
got
a
day
or
two
kind
of
latency
there.
D
We
just
send
a
mail
over
to
operations,
but
there's
nothing
to
say
we
can't
like
we
could
immediately
add
tags
to
the
existing
repos
like
right
now.
If
we
wanted
to
it's
just.
However,
the
group
wants
to
organize
themselves
we'll
get
support
for
it.
A
B
Good
all
right,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
try
to
get
that
repo
then
set
up
and
then
also
add
the
issues.
Issue,
tags
and
I
know
one
of
the
things
like
Nicole.
You
had
mentioned
that
you
want.
You
have
folks
that
are
willing
to
kind
of
help.
Was
there
any
particular
item
of
work
that
you
had
in
mind
for
them
to
help
out
with,
and
we
could
potentially
turn
into
an
issue,
a
GitHub
issue.
F
So
he's
also
trying
to
look
and
see
what
are
some
of
the
Dei
stats
that
they
collect
in
the
organizations
they
work
with
and
the
other
one's
been
working
at
a
company
for
a
long
time,
and
so
he's
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
network
better
professionally
with
other
cyber
orgs.
But
their
company
likes
to
meet
every
hour
on
the
hour.
For
no
reason
so
I'd
say
you
might
not
be
able
to
be
at
some
of
the
meetings.
We
could
definitely
contribute
and
slack
and
stuff
perfect.
F
B
F
B
D
Would
it's
like
do
we
want
to
Miss
de
and
I
okay?
Do
we.
A
B
D
B
C
A
C
I
mean
I
I,
think
I.
Think
to
put
education
in
front
of
it
is
a
matter
of
semantics.
I
think
you
know
we're
branching
off
into
in
into
these
different
areas
that
are
all
relevant,
of
course,
and
we're
staying
true
to
to
the
education
aspect
of
it,
because
we
are
a
subcommittee
right.
So
so
I'm
with
that,
but,
like
I
said,
if,
if,
if
the
larger
objective
gets
met,
the
shortest
path.
A
B
B
If
you
get
us
done
now
in
two
weeks
time,
it's
another
thing
that
we
got
to
kind
of
show,
people
and
point
people
at
yeah
during
the
summit.
A
D
B
C
So
I
had
a
hell
of
a
time
yesterday.
I
had
to
get
walked
through
doing
the
merging
a
pull
request.
It's
for
it's
for
a
readme
file,
I
I,
don't
look
I
had
to
get
walked
through.
It
was
funny
as
hell.
It
took
like
15
20
minutes.
Some
got
jacked
up,
I
had
to
redo
it.
It
was.
There
was
something
else,
but
if
you
just
add
me
in
there,
I
can
go
ahead
and
do
it
and
I
have
to
you
know:
okay,
so.
A
B
All
right
and
then
once
that's
done,
Jay
will
kind
of
update
the
readme
to
something
up
there,
and
then
we
can
start
populating
the
issues,
especially
adding
the
one
related
to
helping
out
with
this
Dei
AI
list.
B
Okay,
oh
the
other
thing
that
we
wanted
to
discuss
of
the
agenda
item
is
last
time
we
spoke
about
updating
the
education
plan
and
adding
or
just
refining
it
a
little
bit
without
making
any
major
changes
for
some
of
the
work
that
we
were
already
doing
and
I
put
up
a
PR
I'll
put
the
link
in
chat
as
well
and.
B
The
pr
was
was
the
last
conversations
related
to
having
something
in
place
so
that
we
can
talk
about
the
digital
portfolio
and
entity
related
to
mentorship.
B
So
I
did
that
and
just
looking
for
some
feedback
on
the
content
and
I
can
either
share
my
screen.
B
E
I
believe,
if
you
go
up,
you
go
to
the
left
right
where
you
are
go,
you
see
where
it
says.
Viewed
there
you
go
click
that
one
yeah
go,
no,
not
viewed
so.
E
A
B
E
A
B
I
just
moved
up
an
M1
for,
what's
going
on
right,
now,
kind
of
like
identifying
the
Global
Partners
related
to
the
work,
that's
with
the
spreadsheet
and
then
I
just
talk
about
adding
five
to
ten
Global
Partners
to
work
with
the
near
one.
B
B
Is
there
and
then
I
added
M2
and
M3
cell,
like
I,
mean
I
just
added
some
more
Milestones
related
to
The
Following.
So
what
I
love
feedback
from
is
what
is
this
a
novel?
Should
we
add
more?
What
are
we
doing
specifically,
and
this
isn't
everything
that
we'll
be
thinking
of
doing?
This
is
just
like
related
to
the
digital
portfolio
and
mentorship.
E
I,
like
the
changes
for
M3
and
list,
two
maintaining
organizations,
I
think
between
Alpha
Omega
and
there's
another
one
that
does
per
semester.
E
I'll
have
to
figure
it
out.
They
just
had
a
Blog
recently
that
I
gotta
read.
E
E
If
we
can
enlist
them
with
Alpha
Omega.
You
already
hit
the
two
so
I.
B
E
B
So
the
Linux
kernel
will
be
partnering
with
the
Alpha
Omega.
Okay,
no.
E
B
The
other
thing
I
was
thinking
about,
is
also
maybe
I
kind
of
worded
it
wrong,
but
I
like
what
you
said
there,
but
also
the
possibility
of
like
say
some
of
the
open
ssf
member
organizations
like
in
this
case,
like
whether
it's
Microsoft
or
whatever,
if
they
wanted
to
work
hand
in
hand
with
some
of
the
Global
Partners
that
we've
identified
in
our
database.
That
was
another
thought,
so
that
could
be
like
a
separate
thing
as
well:
I'm,
not
sure
we
wanted
to
go
there.
B
That
was
the
idea,
but
I
like
what
you
just
said
about
like
getting
a
some
mentorship
programs.
Mentoring
programs
are
kind
of
like
God's
doing
at
the
door,
and
these
Global
Partners
I
was
kind
of
like
threading,
the
the
needle
between
like
the
Global
Partners,
that
we've
identified
in
those
in
the
spreadsheet
and
working
with
them,
developing
the
meaningful,
Partnerships
and
kind
of
jumping
off
of
that
to
create
some
of
the
programs
that
we
want
to
work
with
like
if
we're
going
to
do
digital
portfolios,
where
and
when.
How
would
that?
F
I
have
a
couple
go
ahead,
based
on
your
goal
statement
up
there
in
doing
education,
could
M4
be
continuing
education
for
professionals
and
then
you
could
Leverage
The
open
office
hours.
We
have
where
you
do
college
slash.
F
New
people
high
school
grads
trying
to
get
into
security
and
then
talking
about
some
current
Dei
topics
that
professionals
deal
with
right
to
try
and
start
part
of
that,
because
if
I'm
assuming
we'd
be
looking
towards
mentoring,
we
would
be
looking
towards
trying
to
leverage
people
on
this
committee
and
other
committees
to
try
and
serve
these
underrepresented
committees.
So
you're
going
to
need
more
professionals,
right
and
so
I
feel
like.
F
You
could
start
it
low
with
something
like
that,
and
maybe
even
direct
to
some
of
the
free
online
training
on
certain
topics
that
are
available
at
least
getting
a
list,
because
those
seem
to
be
like
really
popular
on
LinkedIn,
where
people
are
compiling
lists
of
things
that
are
free
and
available
to
people
right,
I'm,
just
thinking
of
some
some
easy
low
hanging
fruit
that
can
be
executed.
F
As
far
as
for
showing
progress
for
the
group
on
a
side
note
for
some
of
those
College
programs,
and
so
you
have
ages
and
sackness
I
actually
went
through
nafio,
which
is
the
black
program
that
hits
people
up
with
like
government
internships,
I
forgot,
there's
like
four
of
them.
There
was
an
Asian
one,
a
Latin
one,
an
Indian
one
and
a
black
one.
F
Those
were
more
familiar
with
us,
so
let
me
dig
through
my
notes:
I
might
have
it,
but
I
know
nephew
links
directly
to
the
black
students
at
predominantly
white
institutions
and
black
students
at
HBC
use
to
get
that
representation
for
some
type
of
internships.
They
are
established
for
doing
that.
Okay,
Matthew.
A
F
Is
this
actually
they're
not
added
on
a
spreadsheet,
but
they
probably
should
be
but
they're
not
limited,
I
would
say
stem
they
do
get
a
lot
of
requests
for
stem
people
and
cater
a
lot
to
stem,
but
they're
not
exclusively
stem.
That's
probably
why
I
didn't
think
about
it,
but
when
I
did
it
like
they
had
business
majors,
but
it
was
still
a
lot
of.
It
was
majority
more
math
science,
engineering
right
I'm,
a
majority
like
60
65,
but
they
weren't
limited
to
that.
F
They
were
more
focused
on
getting
people,
internships
and
things
like
that.
Okay
and
pulling
from
those
schools-
and
let
me
add
the
link
to
that
LinkedIn
group
that
had
all
those
Educators
in
there
from
that
White
House
thing,
but.
F
That's
why
I
say
just
just
I
would
just
clean
up
potentially
with
that.
Do
we
want
to
say
Global,
Partners
or
industry
Partners
to
work
globally.
F
F
B
Any
other
thoughts,
so
you
mentioned
doing
M4
related
to
continuing
and
education
for
professionals.
It
should
include
the
Dei
office
hours,
the
topics
that
are
relevant
to
them
and
help
us
leverage
more
people
in
this
committee
and
others
to
serve
I.
Have
that
and
then
he
said,
industry
related
Partners,
globally
and
Yesenia
said
we
probably
need
to
rework
the
enlist
to
ossf
maintaining.
So
it's
clear
what
that
means,
because
it
could
be
two
different
things.
B
A
B
So
you
might
see
another
PR
that
you
can
check
through
as
well,
okay
and
then
other
than
that
we've
uploaded
the
DI
list,
as
you
mentioned.
Thank
you
so
much
Nicole,
for
it
was
really
really
cool
to
get
that
up.
There
and
folks
can
now
go
in
and
and
edit
and
add
to
your
heart's
content
and
then
the
final
topic
I
had
is
just
that.
We've
got
two
weeks
as
I
mentioned
open
to
a
Summit
North
America,
who
is?
Is
everyone
here
going
to
be
there
not
going
to
be
there?
B
Okay,
Jay
I
think
Jay's
gonna,
be
there
Nicole
any
any
chance.
F
Probably
not
right
now,
it's
not
really
around
the
corner.
For
me,.
B
Oh
okay,
all
right,
we
will
be
skipping
this
meeting
next
week.
I
believe
because
of
that
we'll
have
a
chance
to
meet
with
whoever's
going
to
be
there
in
person.
Hope
you
wish
you
were
there
pretty
cool.
A
A
B
E
Should
we
potentially
add
a
an
agenda
item
for
the
education
next
week
just
to
touch
on
the
the
repo,
so
it's
ready
for
open,
ssfd
or
North.
E
F
Go
ahead:
where
were
we
going
to
try
and
do
the
meeting
with
the
White
House
team,
or
are
we
not
able
to
do
that
or.
B
F
Well,
the
whole
task
would
be
just
whatever
we
figured
out.
We
wanted
to
discuss
would
just
be
scheduled
a
meeting
and
talking
with
them,
and
then
that
would
be
it
right.
So
that's
why
I
thought
it
would
be
something
short
that
would
look
good,
that
provided
impact
into
the
Cyber
education
strategies
from
the
White
House
Education
committee
right.
It's
a
check
right,
getting
things
done
and
it
just
required
that,
but
I
know
you
need
to
reach
out
to
them
before
the
end
of
April.
F
B
B
B
B
F
At
well
yeah,
most
of
the
people
who
were
dominating
their
open
call
space
and
they
have
a
LinkedIn
group
with,
like
all
the
people
there
and
I'll,
make
sure
I
add
that
Slack
okay,
but
most
the
organizations
were
like
teachers
or
colleges
right
talking
about
how
they
can
improve
the
Cyber
education.
And
the
topic
covers
it's
not
just
teaching
children
in
school.
F
It
covers
just
educating
America
as
a
whole
on
Cyber,
so
including
professional
organizations
that
are
dealing
with
people
who
are
grown
and
working
in
the
field
is
very
much
part
of
that
portfolio
and
it
was
probably
the
least
underrepresented
group
when
they
had
these
calls
right.
It
was
mostly
education,
people
pretty
much
kind
of
plugging
their
programs
and
then
talking
about
the
problems
that
Educators
have
teaching
people
on
it
and
not
enough
professional
people
on
there
talking
about
what's
happening
and
what's
changing
right,
yeah,
so
cool.
D
Our
three
points
you
we
could
lead
off
with
the
mobilization
plan,
because
that
is
a
thing
that
exists,
that
the
White
House
is
very
aware
of,
and
that
gives
us
a
lead
into.
Our
specific
topic
of
this
call
is
we're
also
planning
on
augmenting
through
things
like
our
office
hours
and
mentorship,
and
then,
like
the
digital
portfolio,
review,
are
concrete
steps
we
are
planning
on
taking
to
help.
In
addition
to,
we
have
this
kind
of
body
of
material
that's
available
and
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
get
better
penetration.
B
Okay,
all
right
so
lead
in
with
a
quick
blub.
So
since
it's
about
300
and
it's
pretty
short,
I
guess
I
can
take
the
action
item
or
putting
together
like
a
quick
blob
on
circulating
it.
In
slack.
That's.
D
B
D
Reviewing
scholarships
for
ISC
squared
so
I
got
to
do
that
this
afternoon,
but
I'm
glad
that
I
can
help
massage.
If
you
can
just
get
started.
C
C
No,
there
were
a
few
I
mean
I'll
just
say
there
are
a
few
scholarships
that
I
would
that
I
got
like
on
this
last
round.
I
got
like
I
got
like
eight
or
nine
deep
before
I
said
before
it's
a
light
bulb
went
off,
it's
like,
but
am
I
am
I
on,
am
I.
Being
punked
like
like
dude
like
there
was
I,
got
eight
or
nine
deep
and
I'm,
like
am
I
being
punked.
That's
that's
the
nature
of
what
I'm
reading
yeah
right,
I'm
telling
you
just.
C
Well,
I
mean
I'll
I'll,
just
I'll
just
start
and
go
and
say
it
I'm.
Looking
at
the
scholarship,
it
clearly
says
women
in
cyber
security
scholarships.
C
So
when
you
go
down
into
the
scholarship
and
you
start
reading
and
you're,
you
know
I
I
like
to
do
a
blind
on
myself
right.
So
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
to
see
a
name
I,
don't
like
I,
don't
like
to
look
at
anything
related
to
me,
knowing
where
this
individual,
the
you
know,
the
the
pii
of
this
individual
I
won't
know
any
of
that.
I
want
to
look
and
and
based
on
the
merits
of
the
application
but
I
start
reading.
C
The
application
I'm
like
okay,
I,
think
I
need
to
get
some
more
information
here
and
I'm
and
I'm.
Looking
at
my
now,
what
what
is
the
criteria
for
applying
for
this
scholarship?
This
is
not
a
you
know.
Well
one
we're
talking
about
the
there
now:
okay
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna.
Do
ageism.
I'm,
not
I.
I'm
gonna
try
to
refrain
from
that,
but
there
are
some
individuals
that
should
not
be
applying
I
I
can't
within
good
conscience,
say
give
credibility.
C
You
have
three
different
scores
here.
When
is
the
financial
need?
One
is
you
know,
volunteering
and
extracurricular
activities,
and
then
what
is
your
passion
for
the
industry
when
I
read
applications
and
I?
Don't
see
three
of
these
things?
The
only
thing
that
you
say
is
I
want
to
study
this,
because
I
want
to
change
careers.
E
C
I
emailed
Carol
right
away,
I
said
Carol
was
it?
Are
these
legitimate
so
so,
like
I,
I
I'm,
almost
thinking
this
is
the
way
I
took.
It
was
I
wonder
if
they're
tossing
some
of
these
in
to
see
if
we're
really
actually
sitting
here,
reading
them
and
like
you
know,
if
we're
not
just
throwing
random
scores
in
there,
just
to
get
them
done.
C
If
we're
actually
reading
them
I'm
reading
those
I
got
I
got
like
eight
or
nine
in
on
this
last
round,
I'm
like
I,
can't
I
don't
want
to
read
any
more
of
these.
What
am
I
looking
at
here,
you
know
I
mean
it's
like
out
of
the
eight
or
nine
I'm
talking
about
a
good
seven
of
them.
I'm
like
dude
hell,
no.
D
Just
bite
the
frustration,
it
is
very
worthwhile
work,
I
agree
there
they
need,
they
could
do
a
little
bit
better
on
the
ingestion
process
and
I
I
agree
that
last
round
people
they
should
be
highly
qualified.
You
should
understand
how
that
per
that
individual
got
to
this
stage
and.
D
C
Give
you
two:
okay,
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'll,
try
to
be
as
as
non-descript
as
possible
here,
but
the
script
give
you
two
they're
clearly
like
older.
They
all
have
they
both
have
children
out
of
the
house.
They
both
have
done
professions
that
they're,
now
retired,
damn
near
retiring
from
they
they're.
Not
there
I
mean
look,
everyone
wants
to
get
into
cyber
I,
got
it,
but
I,
don't
know
that
they're
they're
saying
they
have
a
fight.
One
person
actually
said
this
will
take
the
stress
off
of
me.
C
Having
to
you
know,
pay
my
bills
and
take
care
of
my
children
and
do
all-
and
you
know,
do
all
this
and
all
that
and
not
have
to
worry
about
funding
the
education.
For
my
second
half
foreign.
D
And
that
is
I
think
a
very
different
set
of
circumstances
than
someone
that
has
a
legitimate
hardship
or
is
it
a
different
stage
in
their
life
yeah.
C
D
C
Completely
agree,
I
mean
I
mean
you,
I
mean
there.
You
can
read
an
application
and
determine
Financial
need
passion
for
the
industry.
I
can't
determine
passion,
because
you
want
your
second
act
to
be
something
that
you
think
is
cool
to
do
right.
What
the
so
you
had
20
years
as
a
you
know,
and
then
you
you
how
when
they
actually
what
your
curricular
activities
are
extracurricular.
What
have
you
done?
There's
that
you
know
outside
to
say:
hey.
This
would
be
cool
to
me,
nothing
and
literally
in
the
application.
C
Well,
because
I've
spent
the
last
20
years
doing
this
I
didn't
really
focus
on
this
this
or
that
this
is
something
I
feel
like.
It
would
be
great
to
do
now
as
a
second
half
and
like
what
the
heck
come
on.
Man
wait
what
you!
Meanwhile,
you
got
high
school
kids
talking
about
I
competed
in
hackathons
with
Stanford.
You
got
high
school
kids
talking,
you
know,
high
school
kids
doing
I
mean
I.
Would
much
rather
give
it
to
a
high
school
kid
who
talking
about
extracurriculars,
they
weren't
hanging
out
with
their
friends.
C
They
were
sitting
here,
building
building
hack
boxes,
they
were
sitting
there,
building
virtual
machines.
They
were
sitting
there,
you
know
I
mean
like
they,
they
were,
they
were
doing
things
and
they,
you
know
they
took
AP
courses
in
this
or
AP
courses,
and
that
and
you
had
see
their
recommendation-
letters
I
I,
look
I'm
I
care
about
that.
What
am
I
like
I
I'm,
telling
you
this
last
round.
It
was
it's
only
in
this
last
round
by
the
way.
D
Yeah
and
it's
interesting
you'll
see
like
some
people,
there's
a
young
lady
that
started
her
own.
They
didn't
have
a
wesis
or
like
women
in
engineering
chapter
at
her
school,
so
she
helped
found
that
and.
B
D
I
think
that'd
be
a
great
thing
for
the
office
hours
to
try
to
help
help
people,
because
having
those
elements
really
helps
distinguish
you
from
the
crowd.
The.
D
E
D
I
think
that's
a
good
advice.
We
could
provide
people
that
show
up
to.
B
B
Definitely
definitely
so
I
will
put
up
the
glove
for
the
White
House
thing
later
on
today
and
Nicole
said
she's
gonna,
look
at
it
and
Kroger's
also
so
just
be
like
a
skeleton
that
we
can
potentially
hopefully
get
wrapped
up
and
send
it
out
through
email
and
then
get
the
response
back
now,
when
we
send
these
these
out
to
say
the
White
House
and
all
what
email
do
we
just
like,
send
it
from
our
own
individual
email
addresses.
So
how
does
that
work,
because
they're
going
to
respond?
D
B
E
D
No
I
I
again
I
think
this
will
be
a
great
opportunity
for
us
again.
It's
it
aligns
with
our
values
and
our
goals
and
helps
kind
of
Drive
our
mission,
and
ideally
it
again
captures
more
collaborators
or
people
that
are.
That
would
benefit
from
the
work
you
guys
are
spearheading.