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From YouTube: Jan 26th Ortelius Governing Board meeting
Description
Creation of a TOC is focus of this call.
A
B
Pretty
much
in
terms
of
us
as
an
incubating
project,
there
are
some
things
that
we
should
do.
We
already
have
our
governing
board
kudos
to
all
of
us
for
getting
that
done
and
having
consistent
meetings.
B
B
Here
is
the
info
on
the
their
technology
oversight.
Committee,
Steve
and
I
are
both
on
this.
They
meet
on
a
fairly
regular
basis
once
a
month,
don't
know
if
we
need
to
be
to
meet
that
often,
but
there
is
a
full
kind
of
repository
repository
out
here
for
them.
So
we
kind
of
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
I
think
we
need
to
duplicate
this,
how
they
have
formatted
this
and
go
ahead
and
initiate
a
Toc
and
we'd
probably
do
elections
in
April.
B
That
is
not
that
far
away,
which
means
that
you
know
February
March.
We
should
be
looking
for
nominations
by
March
15th.
We
should
push
a
vote
out
and
have
the
elections
by
the
15th
of
April
is
what
I'm,
what
I'm
kind
of
thinking
there
is.
If
all
of
you
would
kind
of,
go
through
this
and
take
a
look
at
how
they
have
it
structured
and
see.
If
there's
any
concern
about
it,
the
one
thing
that
I
do
know
became
a
an
issue.
B
Was
time
Oleg
was
trying
to
get
a
when
he
was
the
chair.
He
was
trying
to
get
a
coach
here
because,
quite
honestly
he
was
super
super
distracted
and
needed
some
help
and
and
getting
some
stuff
done.
B
We
should
not
be
as
busy
we're
not
looking
at
trying
to
onboard
new
open
source
projects
or
any
of
that
sort,
but
as
we
move
forward
and
if
we
do
have
any
any
integration
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
the
Red
Hat,
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
red
hat
person,
for
example,
on
the
board.
B
So
I
think
that's
really
what
we
want
to
talk
about
and
just
open
it
for
discussion.
Anybody's
thought
about
it.
C
B
D
D
The
one
thing,
let
me
just
clarify
you
so
Tracy
they
did
not
go
with
a
co-chair
with
the
cdftoc
I.
Don't
know
if
you
read
that
because.
A
D
They
were
worried
about
two
splitting
the
power
between
the
two
of
them,
who
would
win
so
they
changed
it
to
either
Vice
a
vice
chair
or
a
deputy
chair.
I
can't
remember
the
wording
that
they're
going
to
choose,
but
basically
it
was
a
step
in
and
run
meetings
when
somebody
else
couldn't
and
help
out
in
that
capacity.
Right.
B
So
Vice
chair,
however,
we,
if
that's,
we
want
to
follow
that
I,
don't
think
we
have
to.
We
can
have
a.
We
can
follow
a
different
format
altogether.
We
can
call
ourselves
a
that.
We
have
a
technology
Advisory
Board
instead
of
an
oversight
committee.
You
know
we
are
allowed
to
do
it
any
way
we
want,
but
this
is
a
good
place
to
start
understand
what
it
looks
like
and
you
know
kind
of
their.
What
would
you
call
it
their
their
Charter?
B
So
what
we
need
is
a
Toc,
Charter
and
I
feel
like
we
can
pull
from
these
Foundation
Charter
documents.
E
So
will
you
be
sharing
a
link
to
this
particular
site,
page
whatever.
B
I
will
do
that.
I
will
put
it
in
the
in
the
notes
and
I'll
make
sure
everybody
has
the
notes.
B
Yeah
and
if
you
know
we
can
do
this
again,
just
by.
B
Email
I
think
we
can
do
a
thumbs
up.
If
we
want
to
pursue
an
email.
Well,
I
guess:
do
we
have
Quorum
now
with
Anne-Marie
here.
B
So
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
vote
on
if
we
want
to
pursue
it
or
not,
and
then
the
the
the
format
to
a
more
of
an
open
discussion
and
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
go
ahead
and
create
a
ortilius
slash,
Toc
repository.
So
we
have
place
to
put
these
documents
and
we
can
start
collaborating
on
them.
B
But
I
would
like
to
get
nominations
going
by
the
third
week
of
February
at
the
latest
takes
a
little
bit
of
time
for
people
to
think
about
getting
on
board
and
in
terms
of
who
we
might
I
think
we
need
to
recruit
some
folks
outside
of
or
some
folks
that
maybe
have
been
involved
and
and
we've
lost
them.
I'd
love
to
get
more
involved
again.
B
Who
was
on
the
TOC
for
some
time
for
the
CDF
I'd
love
to
get
her
back
on
need
to
showed
up
again,
so
she
actually
has
taken
some
tasks
in
the
Outreach
group.
She
might
be
an
interesting
person
to
have
on
there
and-
and
everybody
may
have
some
ideas
of
who,
who
we
think
should
be
on
that
Toc.
So
just
keep
it
open.
Just
start.
Thinking
about
who,
who
we
might
reach
out
to
to
Nom,
to
nominate
to
be
on
the
board
and.
E
B
Some
of
the
areas
that
are
falling
through
the
cracks
on
is
project
management.
B
We
need
to
take
a
more
close
look
at
how
we're
addressing
security
and
possibly
look
at
this.
The
open,
ssf
scorecard.
B
So
that's
why
I'm
looking
at
some
folks
that
maybe
have
some
project
management
background
like
nitu
and
garima,
while
we
have
I
think
that
there's
most
of
us
who
are
on
here
would
have
the
technical
background.
I
still
feel
like
we.
If
we
could
have
somebody
that
is
more
focused
on
UI,
because
it's
an
area
that
we
do
struggle
with
and
then
data
science.
B
What
can
we
do?
How
do
we
leverage
the
data
data
that
we're
bringing
on
and
with
things
like,
you
know,
reporting
and
graphs?
B
So
those
are
the
areas
that
I
think
that
we're
lacking
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
some
leadership
on
it
and
some
discussion.
E
Do
you
want
somebody
who's
really
strong
on
not
that
you
and
Steve,
and
you
know
others
aren't
but
separately
from
Quote
us
unquote
from
the
the
devops
side,
I.
B
That
is
a
really
good
point.
We
if
we
had
somebody
who
was
a
point
person
on
our
devops
project
and
making
sure
that
we're
getting
we've
completed
everything
we
need
and
that
and
that
the
scorecard
of
the
devops
kind
of
go
together,
but
they're
set
they're,
definitely
kind
of
separate
types
of
people.
So
that's
a
great
suggestion.
Somebody
on
the
devops
side.
D
The
the
scorecard
and
the
devops
piece
that
is
comes
into
the
requirements
for
being
going
from
incubating
to
graduating.
So
there
is
a
list
of
stuff
that
we
already
have
to
do
for
getting
ready
to
all
the
pieces
in
place
for
graduating.
B
Even
though
we
don't
have
the
adoption
yet
for
getting
there,
but
we're
gonna,
that's
gonna
be
something
we
really
have
to
focus
on
this
year,
including
I,
think
we
should
start
watching
our
artifact
Hub
downloads
and
it's
really
sorting
out
what's
happening
and
why
we're
struggling
in
that
area.
D
Well,
and
just
some
of
the
things
like
they're
all
kind
of
intertwined,
so
people
looking
at
the
project
won't
adopt
a
project
if
we
have
a
f
security
score.
Yeah.
D
Kind
of
have
a
road
map
in
the
graduating
process
of
some
check
boxes
that
we
need
to
to
take
care
of.
So
that
looks
like
a
place
that
we
should
be
looking
at
as
well.
E
B
Any
other
thoughts
on
this
topic,
I
mean
sign
you've
been
around
with
some
open
source
projects.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
getting
a
Toc
put
together
and
it's
technology
oversight?
Committee?
Okay,
with
everybody
I,
it's
the
same
term
that
they
use
at
the
CD
foundation,
so
I
just
figured.
We
would
do
that.
F
So
Tracy,
let's
add
my
opinion
into
it
as
well,
like
I,
think
with
the
technical,
our
side
committee,
what
I
see
from
the
different
open
source
project
what
they
do
is
like
in
in
the
cncf
and
the
CDF,
what
they
decided
like,
which
project
be
a
part
of
the
incubation,
graduated
and
sandbox.
This
is
part
number
one.
Their
duty
is.
F
The
next
duty
is
to
help
publish
the
papers,
plant
white
papers,
use
cases
stories
kind
of
this,
so
I
think
for
our
use
case
for
the
TOC
I
think
the
big,
the
big
step
they
can
do
is
to
help
us
publish
some
platform
papers
or
papers
like
in
the
security
side
or
in
the
platform
side
or
in
the
backstage
side,
on
the
application
delivery
front.
So
I
think
that
would
be
really
help
us
moving
forward
as
well.
I.
F
B
I
think
we
need
yeah.
So
in
the
past,
I've
used
an
online
voting
system
so
just
like,
we
did
for
the
board,
so
I'll
just
use
an
online
I'll
just
use
the
same
online
voting
system
for
for
do
the
doing
the
votes
we
just
have
to
get
the
nominations.
F
But
yes,
that's
that's
easy
one,
but
I
think
like
we
have
to
decide
for
the
TOC
like
what
there
is
role
and
responsibility
was
I.
Think
the
bigger
role
should
be
because
they
won't
be
because
we
are
not
a
part
of
the
foundation
but
we're
part
of
the
project.
The
TOC,
our
committee,
so
I
think
they
help
us
figure
out.
What
our,
where
we
add
our
input
into
the
different
communities
number
one.
How
do
we
a
part
of
other
communities
as
well
within
the
open
source
umbrella?
B
D
I
think
what
we
should
do
is
I'm,
taking
a
look
at
the
tecton
repos
to
see
so
because
tecton's,
a
project
they're
going
to
have
a
slightly
different
Toc.
D
D
I'm
just
trying
to
find
where
they
put
their
governance
back
yeah
here
it
is,
let
me
put
it
in
the
chat,
because
this
may
be
taking
a
Toc
from
a
a
project
versus
a
foundation
may
be
easier.
B
E
E
B
So
let
me
do
this,
let
me
create
a
Toc
sub
project
and
let
me
put
some
docs
in
there
and
then
I'll
bug
you
guys
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Make
some
comments
on
it
that
sound
like
a
good
way
to
move
forward.
D
Yeah,
the
the
easiest
way
would
be
just
to
get
started.
Is
we
grab
a
a
doc,
a
repo
create
a
Toc
repo,
take
most
of
the
the
content
from
the
cdftoc?
D
Do
our
Global
change
and
replace,
and
then
we
just
start
doing
a
discussion
or
just
do
a
PR
where
people
can
comment
and
do
updates
to
it.
B
What
I
need
from
this
group
now,
though,
is
someone
to
pass
a
motion.
I
can't
because
I'm
not
on
the
board
to
pursue
a
technology
oversight.
Committee
I,
don't
know
how
you
want
to
word
it,
but
somebody
needs
to
create
a
motion
for
us
and
you
guys
need
to
vote
on
it.
E
Do
you
want
to
add
before
you
finish,
writing
the
note
technical
oversight
committee
under
the
guidance
of
the
artillius
CTO,
or
something
like
that?
We
should
know
where
it
hooks
in.
D
B
All
right,
we
will
get
that
started
then,
and
as
soon
as
I
have
it
all
together,
I'll
shoot
the
put
a
send
it
to
the
governing
board.
D
I
and
I
would
just
put
in
here
just
as
a
note
that
we
are
that
the
timeline
is.
D
Is
what
like
April
1st
nominations
in
the
April
15
voting.
B
That's
like
the
top
of
sort
of
my
list
of
what
I
know
that
we
need
to
what
our
next
steps
need
to
be
in
terms
of
making
sure
we
have
kind
of
all
of
the
working
parts
in
order.
D
I
do
have
a
person
from
GitHub
that
I'm
able
to
work
with
now.
You.
D
So
I've
resent
the
the
our
signed
contract
for
the
fourth
time
to
GitHub,
we'll
see
I'm
going
to
double
check
that
she
got
it
and
get
that
taken
care
of
great.
D
Yeah
exactly
so
that
that's
happening,
and
once
we
get
that
it
sounds
like
they'll,
do
a
invoice
or
something
along
those
lines
of
Po
invoice
type
of
thing
so
we'll
get
it
I
think.
Once
we
get
into
their
system,
I
think
things
will
move
along
a
lot
easier
and.
A
D
We'll
be
able
to
start
paying
out
folks,
so
we
did
clean
up
the
issues
and
have
started
attaching
more
bounties
to
stuff,
and
the
architecture
document
should
be
completed.
Hopefully
this
week.
D
I'm
pretty
close
on
it,
so
that's
the
what's
happening
on
that
front,
that's,
and
so
just
so
everybody
knows
we
kind
of
broke
it
out
into
three
bigger
Milestones.
One
is
The
xrpl
Ledger
piece,
which
is
mostly
the
back
end
stuff
and
then
Tracy
created
a
milestone
called
rossinati,
which
is
a
spaceship
in
a
movie
and
that
one
is
mostly
UI
stuff
front,
end
base
stuff
and
then
there's
the
everything
else
category,
which
is
mostly
like
devops.
We.
B
B
D
B
We
have
we've
got
three
Milestones
now
we
have
one
for
devops
and
there
are
eight
issues
out
here.
Three
of
them
relate
to
Argo,
so
we
have
this
these
two,
this
one
installing
Argo
and
these
two
other
Argo
one
for
poly
and
one
for
model
repos.
B
It
would
be
great
to
have
a
technology
oversight
committee
to
sit
down
and
look
at
this
that
was
focused
on
devops
and
say:
do
we
really
want
to
pursue
Argo
as
an
option?
I'm
thinking
that
we
probably
do?
But
these
are
what
we're
looking
at
now,
here's
the
other
one
that
we
have
artifact
Hub,
showing
F
gray
due
to
our
cves,
which
we
need
to
get
worked
on.
So
this
is
kind
of
I
would
say
we
could
almost
change
this
to
the
TOC.
D
That
that's
one
thing
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
keep
clear
separation.
Is
we
shouldn't
be
just
saying
this?
Is
a
TLC
problem?
Go
fix
it
it's
a
community
problem
and
the
TOC
should
be
there
to
give
direction,
but
not
necessarily
do
all
the
work
and
I
think
that's
what
we
Oleg
was
running
into
with
the
the
CDF
is
you're
you're,
the
the
chair
of
the
CDF,
go
off
and
do
all
this
work
type
of
thing,
which
it
really
shouldn't
be
that
way.
Yeah.
B
E
B
So
the
so
you
know
this
is
these:
are
open.
We're
open
by
Brad
and
I
know
that
that
the
team
has
worked
a
lot
on
on
Argo,
so
it
would
make
sense
to
do
this,
but
again,
this
would
be
the
kinds
of
things
that
the
TOC
should
be
overseeing.
B
And
then
the
other
Milestones
are
The
xrp
Ledger
and
we
have
12
open
issues.
Steve
will
continue
to
add
them.
We
as
the
new
architecture
changes
and
then
the
rossignante,
which
is
all
of
the
other
issues
that
we've
had
opened.
There
are
now
a
couple
dozen
in
there,
and
this
is
kind
of
a
I,
would
call
this
a
this.
Is
our
June
30th
due
date?
B
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
don't
have
any
more
just
we're
going
to
just
keep
these
three
and
I'd
like
to
get
some
of
these
devops
ones
done
by
by
the
first
of
March.
So
just
get
this
one
off
our
list
and
if
we
had
a
Toc
we'd,
probably
get
that
a
lot
faster
because
they
could
make
recommendations.
If
we
really
should
go
and
and
Implement
Argo
CD
in
our
environment.
D
D
Yeah
and
that
decision
came
from
the
architecture
working
group
so.
D
But
that's
the
that
was
the
other
things.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
just
so
everybody's,
where.
B
And
we
did
go
through
and
we
I
indicated
if
there
was
a
bounty
Associated
to
it,
and
we
tried
as
much
as
we
could
to
indicate
the
skill.
So
this
one
requires
some
devops.
This
is
blockchain.
This
is
user
interface
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
self-assign,
but
I
will
be
kind
of
taking
a
management
role
in
watching
the
repos
and
assigning
tickets,
as
we
need
them
assigned
to
help.
People
get
involved
and
I
definitely
am
more
interested
in
that
Dev
container
Sasha.
B
So
if
that's
something
that
we
can
do
and
make
it
easy
for
folks,
that'd
be
fabulous.
B
C
Browser,
like
you
want
to
make
it.
You
know:
I,
just
Well
we'd
have
to
just
look
at
how
you
would
is.
You
can
choose
a
branch
and
I
went
there
now
and
it
says
I'll
be
bold
for
the
the
virtual
machine
time,
but
you
get
free.
You
get
free
credits,
you
get
like
30
hours
a
month.
C
So
I
don't
know
how
they
would
work
on
a
branch
basis
because
we
have
a
you
know
that
whole
branching
method
of
forking
and
then
you
work
on
your
local
kind
of
thing.
So
I'm
not
too
sure
about
that.
But
actually
just
look
at
that.
But
it's
totally
doable.
C
C
C
Can
add
it,
you
can
add
your
extensions
there.
If
you
want,
you
can
preset
app
extensions
if
they
need
extensions.
Any
of
that
and
all
the
tools
and
everything
is
all
there
come
compartmentalized
in
that
in
container
only
to
work
on
that
application.
So.
B
Environment
super
helpful
for
the
Outreach,
because
I
created
an
Outreach
repository
to
track
the
vlogs,
so
that
doesn't
require
a
compiler.
Anything
would
just
be.
You
know.
D
C
D
C
You
go
to
attilius
yeah,
you
see
if
you
go
there
code
spaces
on
the
right
there
at
the
top
go
space
is
new.
Oh.
C
So
if
you,
you
can
yeah.
C
C
Yeah,
it's
so
easy
for
them
to
contribute.
Now
right,
yeah,
there
you
go
it's
it's
a
vs
code
on
the
in
the
browser,
yep.
B
C
B
D
C
Before
you
before
you
get
to
this
part,
there's
three
little
dots
that
you
can
choose
and
you
can
actually
customize
which
branch
you
want
to
use
two,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
it
off
the
main
branch
right.
You
can
choose
any
branch
and
then
you
can
choose
the
size
of
your
virtual
machine.
Well,
yeah
virtual
machines
to
cores
or
four
cores
right.
A
D
C
D
You
know
the
saying:
what
is
it
it's
something
like
we?
We
do
development
in
production.
B
B
A
D
Oh
one
question:
Anne-Marie:
did
you
ever
get
your
jacket.
A
D
A
in
in
Germany
mail,
postal.