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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting – April 4, 2019 - Audio Stream
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B
A
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
people
that
came
and
spoke
today
with
your
concerns
on
the
drain,
and
thank
you
to
the
engineer
and
city
staff
as
well.
There's
a
couple
options
that
committee
would
have
right
now,
I
mean
we
could
just
refer
it
back
to
the
engineer
to
look
at
it
again
that
would
that
would
take
time.
We
likely
wouldn't
be
back
here
until
the
fall
to
reconsider
and
the
updated
report.
We
could
just
approve
it
as
is,
but
I
think
that's
gonna
be
beneficial
for
some
of
the
folks
that
spoke
today.
C
If
we
can
come
to
an
agreement
on
whatever
in
that
next
month,
if
it,
if
it
becomes
clear
that
no
agreement
can
be
reached
or
no
you
know,
common
ground
can
be
reached
between
now
and
then
then
we
don't
really
have
a
choice
but
to
refer
it
back
to
the
engineer
which
again
takes
time.
But
the
only
way
to
address
some
of
the
issues
would
be
to
go
back
and
look
at
that.
C
So
it
like
I'll
commit
to
that
I'll
make
sure
that
we
reach
out
and
set
up
that
meeting,
discuss
and
get
all
not
just
the
two
parties
on
their
own,
but
myself
involved
and
then
come
back
to
our
next.
Our
next
committee
meeting,
so
just
I'll
be
moving
that
I'm
just
moving
that
deferral
to
that
meeting.
Okay.
A
So
we
have
the
fur
on
the
table.
I
would
like
to
ask
our
legal
staff
to
explain
the
process
and
the
next
step
where
we
are
I
know
the
councillor
Moffitt
don't
like.
If
we
do
different
to
the
next
meeting
and
hoping
an
agreement
will
be
reached,
but
we
still
have
to
call
for
a
meeting
next
month
regardless.
So
I'll
leave
it
for
you
to
explain
that.
D
E
A
E
F
A
A
A
G
All
right,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
so
this
is
a
presentation
on
the
departmental
work
plan
and
actually
mr.
Willis
this
year
for
the
first
time
in
the
department's
history,
rather
than
bringing
forward
work
plan
items
to
the
specific
committees
that
our
department
reports
to
a
decision
was
made
to
identify
the
entire
departmental
work
plan
and
all
the
committees
that
we
report
to.
G
So
every
committee
has
a
very
good
understanding
of
a
breadth
of
sort
of
initiatives
of
the
department
is
involved
with
within
our
various
service
areas,
so
it
provides
I
think
a
much
better
context
overall
and
the
the
report
that's
before
you
is
broken
down
into
different
parts
and
the
different
parts
are
actually
directed
to
the
specific
committees
associated
with
the
work
plan
items
that
would
be
reporting
to
that
particular
committee.
So
with
that,
mr.
chairman,
as
a
quick
introduction
at
a
very
high
level
and
the
planning
services,
basically,
it's
a
continuation
of
planning
services.
G
Leanne
sneden's
group
bring
forward
development
applications
padam
the
official
plan,
amendments
and
rezoning
applications,
and
the
anticipation
is
that
to
2019
will
be
comparable
to
2018,
so
you'll
probably
see
the
same
level
of
activity.
It
might
fluctuate
a
little
bit
here
and
there,
but
that's
general,
we're
anticipating
will
be
before
the
committee
and
that's
predominately
the
nature
of
the
work
that
this
committee
would
be
dealing
with
from
the
planning
services
side
of
things.
G
G
It's
a
two-year
comprehensive
review.
The
intent
is
that
we're
going
to
develop
a
brand
new
official
plan.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
the
work
on
the
part
of
the
policy
Planning
Group
in
my
shop
over
the
course
of
the
next
two
years.
Clearly,
the
rural
area
is
a
big
part
of
what
will
be
addressed
in
the
official
plan
and
we're
really
taking
a
hard
look
at.
How
do
we
best
position?
G
The
policy
directions
for
the
opie
once
we
get
through
that
process
and
the
other
thing
that
we've
got
on
our
work
plan
is
the
rural
economic
development
strategy.
Those
two
will
very
much
linked
with
each
other
and
talk
to
each
other
and
help
to
form
each
other.
So
we
will
definitely
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
with
respect
to
the
policy
directions
that
are
going
to
be
developing
with
respect
to
the
rural
area.
G
We've
got
a
discussion
paper
out
right
now,
which
deals
with
the
rural
and
also
deals
with
the
natural
areas,
much
of
which
affects
the
rural
area.
So
that's
out
on
consultation
right
now.
The
other
big
thing
that
we're
dealing
with
in
policy
planning
is
a
resolution
of
appeals
to
our
current
Official
Plan,
OPA,
76,
150
and
180,
and
you
dealt
with
one
report
earlier
today.
G
So
the
primary
area
that
reports
through
this
committee
is
our
Rural
Affairs,
a
natural
systems
group-
and
this
is
just
an
indication
of
some
of
the
key
projects
that
are
gonna,
be
undertaken
by
that
group
in
2019
really
relating
to
rural
monitoring
of
policy
projects,
and
we've
got
the
Fluellen
goulburn
special
study
area
and
official
plan
amendment
that
is
required
to
be
coming
forward.
We
anticipate
that,
potentially
before
the
summer,
if
that
doesn't
occur,
likely
in
September
sometime,
some
sub-watershed
plants
are
going
to
be
coming
forward
back
its
Creek
Rock
River.
G
We've
also
got
a
residential
rural
residential
survey
by
our
research
and
forecasting
group.
Another
initiative
that's
been
on
our
books
for
a
while,
as
a
counselor
DeRoos
is,
is
very
familiar
with.
Is
the
ATV
bylaw
that
we
want
to
bring
forward
and
get
that
resolution
moving
forward
this
year
and
then
various
grant
programs
a
grants,
review
updating
your
dealt
with
another
report
this
morning
that
also
dealt
with
the
other
rural
Grants
Program.
So
that's
sort
of
a
high-level
in
terms
of
the
rural
affairs
natural
systems.
G
The
other
big
thing,
in
addition
to
the
official
plan,
I,
think
that's
a
particular
interest
of
this
committee
is
a
rural
economic
development
strategy
and
implementation
plan,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that
will
link
very
much
into
the
discussions.
I
will
be
going
forward
as
we
start
developing
the
policy
framework
through
the
new
official
plan.
G
That
really
relates
specifically
to
the
rural
area
and
I
thought
it
worthwhile
just
to
go
through
at
a
very
high
level
sort
of
what
that
rural
economic
development
strategy
piece
is
really
all
about,
and
just
a
bit
of
a
context
and
and
I
think
those
of
you
that
are
on
this
committee
are
well
aware
of
it.
A
lot
of
other
people,
not
necessarily
as
aware,
but
the
rural
economy,
contributes
roughly
1
billion
to
the
GDP.
It
is
one
of
the
four
pillars
of
the
city's
economic
development
strategy.
G
It
never
really
has
been
until
we
refreshed
our
economic
development
strategy
and
actually
put
rural
economic
development
as
one
of
the
four
pillars,
the
other
three
pillars
being
a
knowledge-based
industries
to
industry,
sector,
creative,
cultural
industries
and
tourism,
and
then
the
other
one
being
our
sort
of
SMEs
Main,
Street
business
type
areas.
But
clearly
the
rural
is
a
big
piece
that
we've
identified
need
to
pay
attention
to
this,
because
it's
a
big
part
of
what
Ottawa
is
and
what
Auto
is
all
about.
G
And
it's
really
looking
at
the
opportunity
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
to
develop
a
very
strong
strategic
framework
for
advancing
economic
development
and
economic
growth
within
our
rural
area.
As
I
mentioned,
it's
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
informing
the
new
official
plan,
as
well,
so
with
respect
to
an
overall
project
overview.
G
We're
really
looking
at
it
and
in
scan
of
best
practices
and
looking
at
what's
out
there
in
terms
of
programs
and
policies
going
to
be
very
extensive.
Internal
extra
owner
external
stakeholder
engagement
and
comprehensive
research
study
we're
bringing
a
consultant
on
board
who
has
now
been
retained.
That's
going
to
be
working
with
us
and
actually
sort
of
understanding
what
the
lay
of
the
land
is
in
Ottawa,
but
also
looking
at
what's
happening.
G
Really,
what
we're
looking
at
is
rural
economy
review
an
analysis
so
looking
at
the
population,
demographics,
what's
our
economic
base
in
the
rural
area
and
as
this
committee
knows,
we've
got
a
number
of
sectors
that
actually
contribute
to
the
economy.
It's
not
just
agriculture.
We've
got
tourism
out
there,
mineral
aggregates
out.
G
We
focused
on
the
internal
groups
within
the
city
itself.
So,
mr.
chairman,
that's
that's
a
high-level
overview,
so
a
snapshot
in
terms
of
where
we,
where
we're
going
as
far
as
2019,
is
concerned,
with
respect
to
work
plan,
I,
didn't
report
to
this
committee
to
big
things
official
plan,
a
rural
economic
development
strategy,
I
think,
is
our
two
areas
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
with
you
on,
as
we
start
going
through
the
process
on
developing
those.
So
without,
if
there's
any
question
we
have
to
answer
those
well.
A
G
E
G
Exactly
absolutely
I
mean
we've
got
developers
that
are
involved
in
the
mineral
aggregate
things
we've
got
develops
are
involved
in
in
developing
our
rural
villages.
We've
got
those
that
are
interested
in
not
very
urban
area
areas
that
might
come
in
to
the
urban
area.
We've
got
development
interests
that
are
interested
in
opportunities
around
our
interchanges,
with
the
400
series
highways,
so
absolutely
they're,
part
of
the
equation
as
well.
Okay,.
F
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
for
you,
this
is
a
just,
not
not
probably
question
but
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you.
John
for
this
presentation.
I
know
that
the
rural
council
in
your
shop
have
been
working
together,
it's
so
nice
to
see
actually
that
we
have
a
plan
in
2019
moving
forward
specifically
in
a
rural
economy
business.
F
So
we're
very
happy
with
the
participation
and
we've
been
having
a
lots
of
sessions
in
between
our
award
and
discussion
with
consortium
theory
and
councillor
Moffitt,
and
it's
so
nice
to
see
the
business
associations
are
actually
involved
and-
and
it's
so
nice
to
see
that
there
is
direct
channel
and
line
with
your
shop
and
you've
been
engaged
in
most
of
those
discussions.
So
I
encourage
you
to
keep
that
we're
very
happy,
and
we
appreciate
all
the
work
you
and
your
shop
does.
Thank.
A
John
there's
so
many
balls
in
the
air
when
we
talk
about
rural
economic
development
and
councillor
Gower
and
the
Roos
attended
a
meeting
with
the
mr.
Wilson
in
carp,
and
we
talked
about
the
villages
and
and
the
economic
development
stream
comes
from
the
villages
and
the
village
business,
and
you
and
I
were
supposed
to
meet
with
our
what
realism
in
the
past
clay
just
to
put
it
in
a
contact.
A
You
know
where
I'm
coming
from
last
year
and
the
year
before
the
different
bunker
museum
received
between
75
to
80
thousand
people,
they
came
to
their
bunker.
They
voted.
Carp
is
the
most
friendly
town
in
Canada.
We
were
happy
with
that,
but
didn't
spend
a
lot
of
money
income
and
now
we
have
brewery
in
sidecar
have
restaurants.
We
have
kin
one
wishes.
They
make
wine
this,
they
serve
that
they
sell
it
all
on.
What
can
we?
What
can
our?
G
So,
council,
it's
excellent
point.
You
and
I
have
chatted
about
this
before
you're,
right
and
Ottawa.
Tourism
is
now
involved
in
they've,
actually
moved
from
a
destination
marketing
organization
to
a
destination
development
organization.
That's
really
taking
advantage
of
the
Matt
funding,
that's
being
made
available
with
the
additional
accommodation,
tax
and
they're
now
engaged
in
sort
of
looking
at
developing
overall
rural
tourism
strategy
for
Ottawa
tourism
and
again
we
see
them
as
a
key
participant
and
and
developing
the
overall
economic
develop
strategy
and,
as
we've
talked
before,
to
and
I
think.
G
This
is
something
that
those
that
are
in
the
rural
area,
knowing
intuitively
those
that
are
not
from
the
rural
area,
don't
necessarily
appreciate
it,
but
just
like
Ottawa
is
defined
as
an
urban
sander,
with
80
percent
of
its
land
being
rural,
the
rural
communities,
the
villages
are
not
just
the
villages
as
defined
by
the
boundaries
in
terms
of
where
at
where
development
happens.
It's
an
experience
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
that.
G
How
can
we
capitalize
on
these
economic
development
opportunities
so
that,
in
fact,
when
we
do
have
events
or
facilities
in
the
rural
area
that
actually
attract
people
to
go
out
there,
that
we
make
sure
that
they're
aware
of
the
other
opportunities
that
they
can
experience,
that
rural
lifestyle,
that
rural
amenity,
which
is
very
much
a
part
of
what
Otto
is
all
about?
So
a
big
part
of
it?
We
don't
have
the
answers,
but
they're,
definitely
in
the
tent
with
us
and.
A
G
They've
just
been
retained
and
we're
gonna
be
sitting
down
with
them
and
actually
working
out
and
having
discussion
with
them,
I
mean
there
was
an
initial
meeting
with
them.
My
team
is
quite
impressed
with
what
they're
able
to
bring
to
the
table,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
aligned
and
moving
forward
in
the
same
direction.
A
C
Would
you
say
one
thing,
maybe
as
part
of
the
rural
economic
development
strategy,
looking
at
developing
some
sort
of
a
you
know,
a
quick
information
package
for
communities
that
might
be
interested
in
developing
a
BIA
like
we
look
at
you
see
a
lot
of
small
villages,
no
matter
where
you
are
because
of
large
urban
centers
taking
over.
You
know,
I
always
get
built.
They
get
bypassed.
You
just
try
through
upstate
New
York,
there's
a
lot
of
lost
villages.
Bia
is
really
helped
be
that
partner
in
a
community
that
helps
it
grow,
helps
keep
it
vibrant.
C
They
don't
want
the
city
involved
in
the
city's,
not
really
involved
so
I
wonder
if
there's
a
possibility
there
to
create
something
that
would
make
it
more
encouraging
for
communities
to
come
forward
and
create
a
BIA,
because
a
BIA
would
be
would
be
that
you
know
that
ownership
inside
the
community
that
that
board
of
directors
inside
the
community,
where
they're,
looking
after
their
own
with
thermal
money
to
deal
with
and
leveraging
potential
grant
money
from
other
sources.
So
because
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
I
mean
I.
C
Think
we've
seen
that
elsewhere
and
I
think
it's
been
very
difficult.
There's
always
a
couple
people
interested
in
BI
A's,
but
then
they
toss
it
around
their
community
and
they
just
they
just
hit
a
brick
wall.
We've
seen
a
few
develop
in
the
real
area,
but
not
a
lot
and
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
some
of
our
villages
to
have
one
and
I
think
I
think
they
could
really
improve
the
community.
Just
in
terms
of
anaesthetics
beautification.
There
was
types
of
things
that
really
make
a
village
of
illage.
G
Agree
entirely
with
you
counselor,
and
in
fact
we
had
what
was
called
a
Colby,
the
the
Ottawa
Council
of
BIA
s,
that
council
shantia
was
very
much
involved
with
that's
now:
sort
of
evolving
into
a
non-profit
umbrella
organization
for
all
the
BIA.
So
we've
got
another
group
that
is
now
getting
themselves
together
to
think
a
little
bit
more
strategically,
and
this
really
lines
up
with
not
other
one
of
our
four
pillars.
G
Our
economic
development
strategy,
which
is
the
SME,
is
the
main
street's,
the
small
businesses,
the
stuff
that
is
important
to
the
city,
the
quality
of
life
within
the
city,
but
are
not
necessarily
the
things
in
and
of
themselves
that
grow
our
economy,
but
are
absolutely
critical
to
sustaining
sort
of
what
it
is
that
Ottawa
has
to
offer
so
that
we
can
in
fact
continue
to
grow
the
economy.
So
very
good
point
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
definitely
need
to
start
working
out
and
exploring
as
well.
In.
C
Just
an
example
of
leveraging
money.
The
potential
government
had
that
Main
Street
initiative,
where
the
city
got
the
$9,000
from
the
Main
Street
initiative
that
we
were
able
to
invest
in
communities
across
the
rural
area
across
the
city,
but
it's
about
finding
a
partner.
In
that
case,
we
needed
partners
to
share
the
money
with
so
we
gave
between
40
and
50
thousand
dollars
to
Mannatech.
Now
look
at
communities
across
the
area
that
said
well.
C
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
sir
Schmidt,
and
looking
forward
to
continue
working
together
and
I
think
we
have
couple
of
meeting
already
arranged,
and
maybe
you
can
bring
us
some
update
to
this
committee
at
some
point
where
you
think
necessary.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Only
item
three
receive
receive.
Thank
you
very
much
and
now
the
minute
we've
been
waiting
for
us
good
news.
A
B
You
hear
me:
okay,
thank
you,
so
my
name
is
Nicole
mckarrick
ER
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
Osgood
Youth
Association.
It's
a
privilege
to
be
able
to
speak
to
your
committee
today,
so
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity.
The
project
that
I
would
like
to
tell
you
about
today
is
the
rural
Ottawa,
youth,
mental
health
collective.
So
you
have
a
document
in
front
of
you
that
has
the
details,
but
I'm
going
to
sort
of
go
over
some
of
the
highlights
of
that
document.
B
This
is
a
very
unique
project
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
very,
very
big
project.
There's
lots
of
really
great
key
players
involved
and
a
real
groundswell
of
interest
from
the
community,
and
it's
going
to
affect
all
of
the
rural
wards
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
So
it's
really
great
that
I'm
able
to
speak
to
the
group
of
you
about
it
here
today.
So
I
kind
of
have
three
three
main
points
to
share
with
you.
B
The
first
is
that
a
group
of
rural
youth
serving
organizations
have
identified
a
gap
in
service
for
rural
youth,
and
that
is
to
do
with
mental
health
services.
This
gap
is
something
we
know
that
it
exists
also
for
urban
and
suburban
youth,
but
it's
not
quite
as
pronounced
as
it
is
for
rural
youth.
So
we've
got
together
a
quite
impressive
group
of
youth
serving
agencies
to
form
a
collective
to
tackle
this
issue.
B
We
also
have
the
youth
of
manitech
association,
the
richmond
youth
center,
the
Youth
Services
Bureau
ysb
Youth
net
out
of
CHEO
Youth
Rex,
which
is
a
provincial
youth
evaluation
organisation,
the
Ontario
centre
of
excellence
for
child
and
youth,
mental
health,
the
Ottawa
youth
engagement
committee,
the
Ottawa
Child
and
Youth
Initiative
Ottawa
Public
Health,
the
Ottawa
Police
Service.
The
United
Way,
all
of
the
community
resource
centres
in
the
rural
areas
and
just
recently
geo,
has
come
on
board
as
well.
B
So
the
first
step,
which
is
the
stuff
that
we're
engaged
in
right
now,
is
an
exploration
phase.
So
again,
I
said
this
collective
sort
of
had
an
idea
that
there
was
a
gap
in
service.
It's
been
identified
to
us,
but
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
exploring
through
a
number
of
different
ways,
just
to
really
make
sure
that
we
know
what
we're
talking
about,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
identified
gap
in
service
is
an
actual
gap
in
service
and
some
of
the
steps
that
we
can
do
to
make
to
make
the
most
appropriate
changes.
B
So
there's
three
steps
in
this
exploration
grant
phase.
The
first
is
a
community
needs
assessment
and
a
very
big
thank
you
to
your
committee.
We
are
doing
the
Osgood
Ward
portion
of
this
community
needs
assessment
with
a
rural
community
building
grant
funding.
So
we
appreciate
that
that
consists
of
online
surveys
and
focus
groups
with
both
rural
youth,
and
these
are
focus
groups
that
are
happening
in
all
the
rewards
and
also
focus
groups
with
adults
and
also
one-on-one
interviews
with
both
youth
and
adults.
B
Again
in
all
of
the
room,
Catherine
Morin
from
the
Western
Ottawa
Community
Association,
she
did
they're
just
completing
their
community
needs
assessment
and
Osgood
Ward
were
about
halfway
through
our
community
needs
assessment,
and
one
is
just
about
to
start
in
the
Rideau
girl
homeward
as
well.
So
this
is
gonna
be
very
interesting.
It's
the
first
time
this
type
of
community
needs
assessment
has
been
done
across
the
rural
wards.
We're
asking
very
similar,
if
not
exact
same
in
some
instances,
questions.
B
So
we're
really
going
to
be
able
to
compare
that
information
that
we're
getting
back
between
the
role
wards,
which
is
really
great,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
in
the
surveys
and
the
focus
groups.
All
of
the
focus
groups
that
we've
held
so
far
have
been
full
to
capacity
with
people
asking
for
more
opportunity,
and
we've
had
really
great
response
back
from
the
online
surveys.
A
E
B
We're
working
on
the
timeline
on
an
in
a
weave
timeline
as
there
are
a
primary
funder
at
the
moment,
so
the
exploration
grant
phase
is
a
six
months
phase,
which
start
which
went
from
January
of
this
year
to
June
of
this
year,
so
we'll
be
finished,
collecting
all
the
information
and
doing
the
research
and
meeting
stakeholders
by
the
end
of
June
this
year
and
then
the
next.
So
the
way
they
work
they're
granting
is
very
interesting.
They
don't
just
give
project
funding.
You
do
your
project
for
six
months
and
then
you're
finished.
B
They
roll
out
a
whole
bunch
of
different
stages
of
funding.
So
right
now
we're
in
this
exploration
grant
stage
funding
and
the
next
stage
of
funding
is
actually
to
pilot
a
number
of
ideas
that
have
come
out
of
this
research
phase
and
I
believe
that
pilot
stage
is
a
year.
So
we'll
pilot
a
couple
pilots,
a
couple
of
different
ideas
that
have
come
out
of
the
research
and
then
the
implementation
phase
is
a
three
to
five
year
phase
and
that
follows
the
the
pilot
phase.
F
F
I
know
that
I
did
give
you
an
input,
but
you
required
meeting
with
the
stakeholder,
which
is
I,
think
you
require
meeting
with
each
councillor
here
to
sit
down
with
them
in
their
office
and
kind
of
explore,
because
from
my
meeting
with
you,
I
realize
that
I
gave
you
some
some
groups
or
some
resources
that
in
the
community
that
I
know
because
I
know
lots
of
our
community
may
be
that
you
have
some.
You
want
to
have
some
same
similar
meetings
with
some
other
councillor.
B
That
would
be
fantastic
if
I
was
able
to
do
that.
One
of
the
things,
the
reason
we
have
so
many
stakeholder
groups
involved
in
so
many
organizations
on
the
collaboration
is
that
we
don't
want
to
reinvent
any
wheels.
So
you
know
if
research
has
already
been
done
or
pilots
have
already
been
tried
and
either
worked
or
failed.
We
want
to
learn
from
that.
We
don't
want
to
to
sort
of
repeat
the
mistakes
that
have
been
made
in
the
past,
so
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
individual
counselors
would
be
very
much
appreciated.
B
F
Thank
you
and
that's
a
very
good
opportunity,
because,
usually
groups
come
to
us,
they
only
need
money,
but
here
it's
good
that
you're
coming.
Actually
you
want
to
also
help
us
and
help
our
community.
So
thank
you
very
much.
This
is
a
great
initiative.
We
appreciate
all
the
work
you
and
your
team's
putting
out.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
E
Thanks
Nicole,
you
said
off
the
top
that
there
is
a
gap
in
services,
but
what
you're
doing
now
is
trying
to
determine
the
gap
in
the
services?
Just
what?
What
are
you
learning
right
now
like?
What?
What
can
you
tell
us
about
what
is
exactly
what's
happening
and
what
kids
are
experiencing
in
the
rural
areas?
I.
B
Can't
I
can
tell
you
sort
of
a
little
snapshot
of
what
we're
learning,
because
we
are
just
sort
of
about
halfway
through
the
process,
but
it
was
our
assumption
going
into
it
that
there
was
a
gap
in
service.
I
become
the
feedback
that
we
get
on
the
ground,
so
I
run
a
Youth
Center
in
rural
Ottawa
and
we're
seeing
more
and
more
kids
come
through
the
doors
of
the
Youth
Center
that
have
mental
health
challenges
that
are
having
a
hard
time
accessing
services
because
those
services
are
in
the
city
core.
B
So
we
just
saw
we
seeing
an
increase
in
those
type
of
comments
and
it
really
so
I
and
then
I'm,
seeing
it
from
a
couple
of
different
places.
I'm,
a
parent
as
well
so
I'm,
also
seeing
parents
are,
are
talking
with
me
about
challenges
that
they're
having
when
there's
a
real
serious
mental
health
concern
with
a
youth
in
their
family.
They
are
actually
having
to
take
time
off
of
work,
take
a
leave
from
work
so
that
they
can
get
their
child's
back
and
forth
to
services
that
exist
in
the
city.
Poor.
B
B
So
they
are
just
starting
to
come
on
board,
so
one
of
our
partners
is
Jackie
Miller
from
the
United
Way
Ottawa
and
she
leads
their
mental
health
team
and
she
works
with
all
of
the
school
boards
and
their
mental
health
leads
so
we're
just
at
the
phase
now,
where
she's
starting
to
introduce
the
project
to
the
mental
health
needs
for
all
the
school
boards.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Thank
You
Nicole.
That
was
a
good
question
from
Councilman
about
the
high
schools,
because
obviously
the
high
school
is
a
venue
where
we
need
to
need
to
be
able
to
tap
to
us.
You
know,
especially
in
a
rural
area.
The
high
school
is
the
hub
basically,
and
that
was
but
I'm
glad
you're
working
with
the
Resource
Center,
because
the
all
the
Resource
Center
they
work
with
the
high
school
as
well,
because
in
our
area
come
serve,
galvanized
the
Western
Aero
Resource
Center.
They
have
counseling
in
high
school
as
well.
A
So
if
we
can
tab
to
that,
like
you
said
earlier,
you're
not
looking
to
invent
the
wheel,
you
wonder
what
would
they
exist
in
program
and
I?
Think
that
would
be
a
great
idea
if
you,
if
you
follow
up
with
I,
know
Katherine
in
in
the
West
Resource
Center.
She
done
a
great
job.
She
has
a
good
relationship
with
the
school,
but
I
think
you
need
to
open
up
with
the
high
school.
Yes,.
B
Absolutely
we
have
actually
have
a
very
good
relationship
with
the
high
school
and
the
middle
school
in
Metcalfe
and
so
they're
allowing
us
to
go
in
and
do
focus
groups
during
lunch
and
ban
pressing
practice
and
that
type
of
thing
right
in
the
high
school.
So
I
100%
agree
that
it's
very
important
relationship.
Okay,.
A
B
D
You
mr.
chair
I'm,
Jane
Wilson,
chair
of
Ottawa
wind
concerns,
as
my
colleague
and
fellow
north,
core
resident
Michael
Baigent,
and
some
others
from
north
core
have
joined
us
today.
As
you
may
recall,
our
wind
power
project
was
proposed
in
2008
for
the
north
core
richmond
area,
which
was
actually
going
to
stretch
across
to
Osgood.
If
it
was
successful,
the
proponent
actually
failed
to
qualify
for
the
last
RFP
that
the
province
ran
in
2014.
D
The
new
government
is
making
strides
on
that
and
they
have
put
forward
several
changes
to
regulations.
They're
just
proposed
at
this
point-
they're
not
proclaimed,
but
they
do
require
your
attention
so
we're
here
today
to
alert
you
to
the
need
to
look
at
and
possibly
take
action
to
protect
residents
of
Ottawa's
rural
areas
in
the
event
that
industrial
scale,
wind
power
projects
do
come
up
in
the
future
in
2019.
We
know
a
lot
more
about
wind
power
than
we
did
back
in
2008.
We
know
that
many
wind
turbines
in
Ontario
were
sited
improperly.
D
In
fact,
the
energy
minister
in
2017
said
that
mistakes
were
made.
He
said
turbo
were
not
put
in
the
right
place
and
duster
wind
turbines
have
a
high
impact
on
the
environment
and
on
the
quiet,
rural
communities,
as
I
said
it
is
an
industrial
use
of
the
land.
Wind
power
has
had
multiple
negative
effects
in
Ontario.
The
province
currently
has
records
of
thousands
of
noise
complaints
which
are
not
resolved,
and
there
are
questions
about
whether
these
regulations
are
properly
being
enforced.
D
So
the
new
amendments
to
the
regulations
and
detailed
comments
are
in
the
document
that
I
provided
there.
That
was
a
review
done
by
wind
concerns,
Ontario,
which
were
a
member
I,
was
prepared
by
a
present
and
past
Municipal
Council.
There
are
four
actually
but
I'm
just
going
to
look
at
two
today.
One
is
that
project
developers
will
be
required
to
assess
the
effects
of
power
generation
projects.
The
comment
we
add
to
that
is
that
the
current
setbacks
and
noise
limits
for
wind
turbines
in
Ontario
are
not
adequate
again.
They
have
not
been
changed
since
2009.
D
The
document
that
supports
the
Ontario
regulations
is
now
ten
years
old
and
does
not
reflect
current
practices
around
the
world,
including
places
like
Germany,
where
this
all
started.
The
World
Health
Organization,
published
new
noise
guidelines
last
fall.
Ontario's
regulations
do
not
meet
those
guidelines.
You
have
to
remember
to,
according
to
acoustics
specialists,
that
the
noise
that's
produced
by
wind
turbines
is
different
from
any
other
kind
of
noise.
So
it's
not
like
barking
dogs
or
traffic.
D
Another
change.
The
regulation
has
been
proposed
that
wind
power
developers
must
submit
confirmation
from
a
local
municipal
governments
indicating
that
the
proposed
use
of
the
land
is
not
prohibited
by
zoning
bylaws.
So
under
the
green
energy,
at
municipalities
had
no
say-so
many
municipalities
have
nothing
in
place
to
protect
themselves
in
the
future
or
to
make
any
protective
measures
for
the
residents.
So
many
existing
zoning
bylaws
are
silent
on
the
issues
of
wind
power
projects
and
changes
will
require
municipalities
to
review
the
by-laws
to
reflect
current
views.
D
Zoning
bylaws
will
need
to
be
consistent
with
the
official
plans
which
may
trigger
changes
to
official
plans,
and
provincial
approval
may
be
required.
The
process
should
be
changed
in
our
view,
to
require
municipal
support
resolution
approved
by
council
for
at
least
a
transition
period
that
will
be
required
to
make
these
necessary
modifications
going
forward
before
municipalities
are
encouraged
to
pass
owning
bylaws,
which
will
require
setback
provisions,
changes
to
noise
regulations
etc.
D
D
Would
just
ask
that
you
write
to
the
provincial
government,
request
a
transition
period
and
request
that
setbacks
be
updated
again
at
Ottawa
as
a
leader
was
one
of
the
hundred
and
seventeen
municipalities
that
asked
for
changes
so
we're
saying
Ottawa
has
a
role
again
to
move
forward
in
protecting
communities.
If
there's
any
questions
be
happy
to
answer.
Thank.
A
A
C
Just
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
come
out
today
and
for
your
work
on
this
in
the
past
and
bringing
attention
to
it
not
just
for
Ottawa,
but
for
mr.
politics
across
Ontario
I
know
it's
lobbyists
pal
he's
up
there.
I
just
don't
have
the
wherewithal
to
well
the
residence.
Does
miss
vallens
have
the
wherewithal
to
to
fight
some
these
larger
companies
and
some
of
the
things
they
do
so
appreciate.
Groups
like
yours
that
can
do
that
and
give
them
a
voice.
So
thanks,
okay,.