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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee – February 6, 2014 – Audio Stream
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A
A
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
Confirmation
of
minutes
of
the
meeting
of
the
5th
of
December
2013
of
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee?
Is
that
carried
okay
and
I'll?
Read
the
statement
that
I'm
required
to
read
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting?
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
discuss
the
proposed
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
5
to
12
on
today's
agenda,
for
the
others
listed
above.
Only
those
who
make
all
submissions
today
for
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted.
I
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
interior
Municipal
Board.
C
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board
of
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
120
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
180
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
a
comment
sheet
is
available
at
the
door
and
there
are
two
lovely
young
ladies
there
who
will
help
you
out.
If
you
need
it
for
any
one
wishing
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments,
so
we'll
go
through
the
agenda
and
a
number
of
items,
I
hope
the
one
consent
item
number
one
will
hold.
C
We
have
the
presentation
item
number
two
designation
of
2659
Roger
Stephens
drive
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
that
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
that
council
issue
a
notice
of
intention
to
designate
26:59
Roger
Stevens
Drive
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
According
to
the
statement
of
cultural
heritage,
value
attached
as
document
6
and
repealed,
bylaw
49.8
5
as
the
effective
date
of
the
bylaw
designating
the
pretty
as
outlined
in
recommendation
1,
is
that
carried
by
the
memory.
C
3
is
the
status
update,
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
inquiries,
emotions
for
the
period
ending
January
30th
2014
that
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
received
this
report
for
informations
that
received
item
number
for
Municipal
Act
charge
for
the
farmers
away:
extension
of
the
cows,
bad
alternative
standard
water
supply
that
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
recommend
console
approval
by
law
to
assess
property
owner
charges
for
farmers
way.
Local
improvement,
as
outlined
in
this
report,
is
that
carried.
C
Thank
you
item
number
5
zoning
200
West
Brook
Road,
that
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
for
zoning
bylaw
2008
250
to
change
the
zoning
of
200
West
Brook
Road
from
Royal
general
industrial
couple,
Court
of
sub-zone
v,
RG
5
royal
general
industrial
cart,
Road
corridor,
sub
zone,
5
royal
exemption
RG
v,
as
detailed
in
document
1.
Do
you
have
just
before
we
vote
on
that?
A
question
councillor
Cadbury.
B
D
D
B
Thank
you
very
much
just
a
question
in
terms
I
know.
If
the
report
says
that
there
was
public
consultation
done
or
carried
out
according
to
the
rules
and
regulation
just
want
to
ask
if
you
were,
but
the
attendance
was
like
it
the
analysis
as
far
as
the
open
houses,
those
were
carried
through
another
process,
there
was
the
municipal
class
environmental
assessment
and
there
were
two
public
open
houses
and
the
details
of
the
consultation
are
documented
in
the
final
report
for
both
phases,
one
and
two
of
that
EEA
process.
B
As
far
as
the
zoning
amendment
consultation,
there
was
had
heads-up,
but
given
to
the
ward
councillor
as
well
as
community
associations
within
the
vicinity
of
the
property,
and
then
there
was
a
formal
circulation
to
those
community
associations
and
landowners
within
120
metres
of
the
property,
so
the
landowners,
wouldn't
the
required
distance
of
120
metres-
were
notified.
That.
C
Okay,
thank
you
councillor.
Cadbury,
on
this
on
item
number
five.
Is
that
carried
item
number
six?
There
is
a
technical
amendment,
so
we'll
we'll
just
hold
that
for
minutes
or
do
you
want
it
right
now?
Let's
do
right
now.
Okay,
so
I'll
be
the
rezoning
to
307
person,
B
Road,
that
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
bylaw
2008
252
change,
the
zoning
of
3
to
3
0
7
person,
B
Road
from
agricultural
AG
to
agricultural
subsonics,
AG
6,
as
detailed
in
docu
one
councillor
Moffitt.
You
have
a
technical
amendment.
C
C
Two
speakers
one
opposed
and
one
in
support.
Zoning
number
eight
is
only
seven
five
five
burden
Road
that
agricultural
for
a
rail
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw,
2008
252
change,
the
zoning
of
the
Landsat
7
5
5
Burton
Road
from
agricultural
subsume
to
AG
2
to
agricultural
substance,
Evan
ag7
and
the
agricultural
zone
sub
sown
to
special
exemption
AG
2,
as
shown
in
document
1
and
detail
in
document
2.
Is
that
carried?
C
C
Thank
you
very
much
just
going
to
take
a
drink
of
water
here,
a
67
90
Rita
Valley
Drive
that
Jagger
Cultural
Affairs
Committee,
recommend
consul
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
2008
250
change,
the
zoning,
a
six
seven
nine
zero
reader
Valley
Drive
from
agricultural
AG
and
development
reserve
sub,
someone
dr1
to
agricultural
subsume,
5
AG
agricultural
rule
exception,
AG
and
village
residential
first
density,
sub-zone
be
rural
exception,
VI
P,
as
shown
in
document
1
and
detailed
in
document.
Two
on
that
item
carried
I'm
glad
mr.
C
Marcus
here,
because
if
we
needed
an
explanation
he
would
be
the
one
I
would
ask,
so
is
owning
a
sixty
to
seventy
for
a
reader
Valley
Drive
that
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zone
by
2008,
250
change
the
zoning,
a
part
of
60
to
70
for
retail
Valley
Drive,
as
shown
in
document
1
from
a
cultural
AG
to
agricultural
subsume
for
Ag
for
to
prohibit
future
residential
uses
on
the
land.
Is
that
carried
okay?
We
will
go
back
to.
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
Again,
we
do
academics,
we
do
hospital
service.
We
also
started
a
research
program
and
we're
not
looking
after
the
the
latest
drug
of
the
latest
procedure,
but
basically
focus
of
that
population
research.
How
best
do
we
care
for
population?
Because
if
you
look
at
research
journals
most
of
the
work
is
done
in
open
population.
So
this
is
some
of
the
things
we've
done
in
the
past
and
we're
building
a
research
program
to
go
forward
again.
A
Offices
but
specialists,
whether
it's
a
gynecologist,
a
cardiologist
I,
suspect
if
you're
in
the
city
you're
looking
at
months,
if
not
several
months,
just
to
get
into
seeing
the
first
time
in
their
office,
I
can
tell
you
it's
much
much
further
than
that.
It
would
be
days
if
not
weeks,
at
the
most
we're
not
just
a
hospital.
We
have
a
partnership
with
the
long-term
care
home,
that's
right
next
door
to
the
hospital
150
feet
away
and
there's
a
hundred
residents
in
that
home
at
any
time,
there's
usually
15
or
20
from
the
City
of
Ottawa.
A
We
call
it
the
community
care
building,
it's
the
site
for
the
CCAC
to
have
Hewitt
in
to
social
service
agencies.
So
on
the
campus
we
have
the
hospital
we
have
the
nursing
home
they
allow
it.
Together.
We
share
trailer
and
I
boards
of
directors.
The
job
zone
does
hiring
for
all
the
different
agencies,
with
a
flu
shot
or
something
realization.
The
fear
wait
to
the
offices
there
if
somebody's
coming
in
for
a
short
time,
look
for
a
job
but
come
to
the
hospital.
We
have
someone
who
looks
after
their
children.
A
A
Seniors
care,
community
care
and
physicians,
United
for
technology
and
education.
Research
are
basically
the
focus
on
those
folks
in
the
middle
and
they
don't
call
them
patients
or
calling
people
because
the
patient
in
a
long-term
care
home,
we
call
you
a
resident
from
the
community.
We
call
the
client
but
very
often
you're
the
same
person,
so
we
are
trying
to
bring
health
care
in
our
stores
together
to
serve
those
people
the
very
best
and
just
look
into
the
future.
We
just
developed
and
confirmed
a
strategic
plan.
We
were
able
few
things
from
that.
C
You
know,
I,
think
that
you
see
the
Brennan
is
the
southern
extremity
a
little
a
little
pasta
village
of
Vernon
is
the
border
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
from
from
Winchester,
is
probably
the
Winchester
hospitals
about
10
minutes
away
from
Verdun.
So
a
number
of
our
residents
from
there
and
Medcalf
and
the
catchment
areas
is,
is
it's
fairly
extensive
and
I
just
wanted
to
IIT
Charlie
a
little
bit,
because
both
my
parents
died
in
the
Winchester
Hospital,
but
it
wasn't
for
a
lack
of
care.
C
It's
just
the
disease,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
am
amazed.
That
is
the
service
that
you
provide
to
think
dialysis
is
one
that
was
brought
on
a
few
years
ago.
People
used
to
have
to
travel
into
the
city,
but
you
have
that
program.
So
you
do
have
a
lot
of
programs
that
people
from
the
Winchester
North
Dundas
here
used
to
have
travel
into
the
city.
You
don't
have
to
do
that
now.
That's.
C
You
said
parking
was
$2,
that's
really
nice
to
hear
and
the
last
point
I.
The
gesture
hospital
is,
is
connected
with
the
city
water
emergency
preparedness
plan.
If
there
was
a
case
of
a
major
catastrophe,
I
think
you're
connected
with
with
the
City
of
Ottawa,
and
if
we
had
to
send
people
there
in
emergencies,.
C
C
E
C
G
E
Good
morning,
mr.
chair
members
of
committee,
this
Learning
amendment
by
law
examines
the
appropriate
of
a
zoning
change
at
four
three
four
seven
second
line.
Road
subject:
property
is
located
in
the
east
of
East
of
second
line
Road
north
of
Belle
Meade
for
the
township
of
Osgood,
just
north
of
the
municipal
boundary
of
North.
Dundas
purpose
of
this
amendment
is
to
resume
the
subject
lands
to
allow
for
a
new
pit
operation.
E
There
is
additional
contiguous
person
that
is
also
subject
of
a
class
they
pit
license,
but
these
lands
are
already
zoned
for
aggregate
extraction,
albeit
with
a
whole
new
bylaw
that
can
be
lifted
subject
to
the
fulfillment
of
a
number
of
technical
conditions.
In
total,
the
proposed
PDA
associated
with
the
primary
application
is
52
hector's
in
size.
E
Strata
wands
are
primary
agriculture,
with
some
wood,
Lots
and
two
nearby
residential
areas
of
note
farming
and
cake
or
drive,
and
is
currently
designated
sand
and
gravel
area
and
general
rural
area.
The
designations
permit
the
extraction
of
aggregates
subject
to
a
zoning
amendment.
The
amendment
must
be
supported,
but
studies
that
show
that
there
are
sufficient
argument
and
they
can
be
extracted
without
impacting
adjacent
and
nearby
land
uses.
E
E
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
number
of
technical
studies
to
support
the
proposed
use,
greywater
noise,
natural
environment
impact
statement
and
the
traffic
brief
have
all
been
submitted,
reviewed
by
staff
and
we're
satisfied
with
the
recommendations
and
conclusions
further.
The
applicant
has
applied
for
a
Pitt
license
for
the
Ministry
of
Natural
Resources.
E
There
have
been
a
number
of
comments
of
concern
received
from
nearby
residents
and
the
two
adjacent
residential
areas
may
make
a
court
and
farmland
concerns
range
from
blasting
to
noise,
groundwater
concerns
and
environmental
impacts
staff
note
that
a
pit
is
proposed
for
the
aggregates
can
be
removed
without
the
need
for
blasting.
Further
all
groundwater
concerns
have
been
addressed
to
the
hydrological
report,
and
environmental
impacts
have
also
been
addressed
in
the
environmental
impact
statement.
There
have
also
been
comments
regarding
the
impact
of
traffic
from
the
proposed
use.
E
A
number
of
residents
have
suggested
that
the
entrance
to
the
proposed
bit
should
be
located
off.
The
second
line
Road,
however
secondary
road,
is
not
viable,
as
it
is
neither
a
truck
route,
nor
is
it
built
to
a
standard
to
support
such
traffic.
Although
stagecoach
algae's
uses
less
desirable
to
the
public,
there
have
been
a
number
of
measures
recommended
to
approve
the
safety,
such
as
early
warning
measures
to
identify
heavy
vehicle
access
like
warning
signs
and
flashy
lights,
north
and
south
of
the
site.
E
Access
further
pave
shoulders
on
both
sides
of
the
access
will
be
provided
to
ease
egress
and
excuse
me
access
and
egress.
Additionally,
the
entrance
will
be
have
have
lighting
installed
for
greater
visibility.
The
entrance
from
stagecoach
rollers
had
been
has
been
supported
by
transportation,
study
and
staff
accepts
the
conclusions
of
the
said
study
the
additional
comments
that
we
received
regarding
matters
of
a
lot
under
municipal
jurisdiction,
such
as
hours
of
operation.
These
matters
are
subject
to
my
approval
under
any
licensing.
E
In
some
way,
the
proposed
use
of
the
land
is
a
pit
is
not
seen
as
incompatible
with
existing
land
uses,
given
a
results
of
the
technical
studies
and
the
recommendations
that
will
be
implemented
in
deed.
Existing
zoning
on
part
of
the
subject
site
anticipates
this
use.
It
is
further
noted
that
the
k
courts
subdivision
lands
tried
us
actually
contain
a
notice
that,
if
it
may
be
located
on
the
adjacent
property,
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
number
of
technical
studies
that
support
the
use
and
accordingly,
the
amendment
recommending
approval
by
staff.
Thank
you.
C
H
H
Yes,
I
understand
completely
with
five
minutes.
That's
why
I
decided
not
to
do
anything
elaborate
in
the
way
of
a
presentation.
You
have
a
two-page
handout,
I
hope
which
contains
the
points
that
I'd
like
to
address,
basically
with
the
pitch
you're
up
there
I'd
like
to
start
by
saying
I
think
that
this
is
not
that
I'm
keen
on
having
another
hole
on
the
ground
beside
me
to
put
it
in
perspective,
I
live
1500
feet
to
the
north
of
the
proposed
pit.
H
H
That's
the
reason
I'm
here
and
I
didn't
have
any
other
way
to
object
then
through
this
is
owning
because
it's
as
is
stated
in
page
for
that
the
the
staff
approves
or
concurs
with
the
exit.
So
basically
I'm
here
today
to
object
to
the
accent
not
actually
to
the
zoning
percent
of
the
rezoning
per
se.
But
this
seems
to
be
my
only
mechanism
to
object
to
the
accent
just
to
give
you
background.
H
I've
been
a
resident
of
stagecoach
road
since
1984,
so
it's
30
years
this
year
that
I've
lived
on
this
road
I've
experienced
one
fatality
on
this
road.
In
the
top-paid
that
I've
lived
there,
a
person
was
killed
at
the
corner
of
stagecoach
road
and
almani
Road,
which
is
just
north
of
here
about
one
mile
and
what
it
was
at
the
time
there
was
only
a
two-way
stop.
H
Residents
had
been
complaining
for
quite
a
long
time
to
requesting
that
it
be
made
a
four-way
stop,
because
the
road
was
dangerous,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
the
road.
It's
a
very,
very
fast
drop,
traveled
Road.
Unfortunately,
nothing
was
done
and
someone
was
killed.
There
was
a
fatality
there
and
immediately
within
days
there
was
a
four-way
stop
now,
as
I
say,
I've
lived
here,
30
years
on
this
road
and
I
don't
want
to
experience
another
fatality
in
my
lifetime
there
I've
had
a
number
of
people
in
my
ditch,
that's
I.
H
This
is
a
very
straight
road.
There
should
be
no
real
reason
why
people
should
be
hurt
or
killed
on
it
in
a
sense,
except
that
they
travel
up
extremely
high
speed.
I've
had
three
major
accidents
in
my
ditch,
which
is
along
a
and
my
kilometer
in
a
quarter
of
perfectly
straight
road.
Fortunately,
all
three
were
severely
drunk
and
so
survived.
I
think
if
they'd
been
sober,
they'd
have
been
dead.
H
So
that's
the
background
on
why
I'm
presenting
here
today,
okay,
so
I'd
start
like
to
start
by
saying
that
I
believe
that
the
we
proposed
accident
onto
stagecoach
road
is
has
a
very
high
risk
of
producing
a
major
traffic
accident.
That's
why
I'm
here
to
object
I,
believe
that
other
exit
options
haven't
been
properly
considered.
H
Okay
in
their
conclusion
in
the
considerations,
I
think
there's
two
considerations,
one
of
them
and
I'll
just
read
my
point:
our
liability
for
oxidants
or
facilities
occurring
on
stagecoach
road
once
the
pit
exit
is
approved
or
the
city
of
Ottawa's
responsibility.
Now
that
was
given
to
me
directly
by
the
engineer
that
did
the
traffic
studies
and
by
the
project
manager
for
Tomlinson.
So
all
liability
for
anything
that
occurs
on
the
road
on
stagecoach
will
be
the
City
of
Ottawa.
H
So
if
an
accident
happens,
it's
the
city's
challenge
and
I
guess
the
second
corollary
of
that
is
you
guys
are
the
committee
that
really
looks
after
this.
These
interests
and
council
at
large
will
almost
invariably
prove
whatever
you
bring
forward.
So
this
is
the
opportunity
for
the
city
to
make
the
road
safer,
which
is
why
I'm
here
talking
today,
I
mean
there's
no
point
talking
to
council
you're
the
important
people
so
I
guess
to
go
to
my
issues.
The
traffic
study
was
a
tremendous
issue
for
me.
H
Okay
and
I'll
just
bring
the
points
up
quickly:
count
Tomlinson,
RW,
Tomlinson,
Commission
to
traffic
studies,
a
number
of
them
which
I
have
all
of
the
documentation
and
I've
done
an
extensive
reading.
Just
so,
you
have
my
background.
I'm
a
systems
engineer
I'm,
not
a
PN's,
but
I've
had
a
lot
of
piensas
work
for
me
over
the
years.
So
I
do
have
a
background,
and
all
of
this
stuff
and
I
did
counts
in
major
I
forgot.
H
Time:
okay,
the
Trop
studies
there
was
this
24%
increase
in
traffic.
Okay.
That
should
be
alarming.
In
itself.
Average
speed
on
the
road
is
95
kilometers
an
hour.
All
the
traffic
studies
were
done
it
at
80
kilometers
an
hour
Tomlinson
did
the
studies
on
10
meter
trucks,
but
they
drive
up
large,
a
very
large
Freight
and
they
and
most
of
the
trucks
that
run
along
the
road.
H
Our
truck
trailer
combinations,
sort
of
twice
as
long
and
twice
as
heavy
the
regionals
pits
going
to
likely
operate
for
at
least
50
years,
because
logged
ones
been
running
80,
so
you're
making
decisions
for
the
next
50
years
on
how
people
pull
out.
So
they
did
a
test.
The
city
didn't
refuse
to
do
a
field
test
to
see
whether
one
truck
pulling
out
what
the
speed
would
be.
H
H
As
far
as
an
exit
safety
point
of
view,
the
trucks
are
going
to
come
out.
They've
been
a
try
and
crusty
hill
they're
going
to
be
doing
50
kilometres
an
hour
after
which
they're
going
to
come
along
on
a
one
about
a
1
kilometer
straight
road,
okay,
I,
when
I
was
doing
the
saves
in
the
six
hours
I
was
sitting
there.
H
H
The
stagecoach
is
in
absolutely
abysmal
condition.
If
you
want
to
drive
it
at
all.
Please
please
do
it's
going
to
cost
to
see
a
lot
of
money
to
rebuild
all
of
stagecoach
for
this
bit,
a
safer
option
would
be
to
bring
it
out
on
the
corner
at
domini
that
little
part
that's
marked,
as
yellow
Tomlinson
also
owns
Dalma.
Sorry,
Belle,
Meade,
Belle
Meade
is
a
paved
road.
They
could
bring
it
out
on
the
and
bring
it
along
to
a
court,
a
stop
sign
at
the
corner
of
Belle,
Meade
and
stagecoach,
and
then
everyone
thank
you.
H
And
then
that
would
bring
it
out
at
the
corner
of
Belle
Meade
in
stagecoach,
where
you
could
put
a
full
four-way,
stop
and
then
they're
all
trucks
and
traffic
would
start
at
the
same
speed.
The
other
consideration
is,
then
they
would
start
on
that.
The
trucks
would
start
on
a
downhill
on
the
north
direction
north.
What
northbound
direction,
which
is
ninety
percent
of
the
traffic,
and
they
would
start
on
a
level
on
the
southbound
direction,
which
would
make
all
of
the
all
of
the
trucking
much
safer.
H
C
Thank
you
very
much.
She
appreciates
and
questions
I
appreciate
your
comments
in
regard
to
the
fact
that
you
know
the
license
gave
the
pit.
You
have
no
objection
to
an
end,
really
I
think
that
speaks
highly
of
you,
because
it
you
could
be
arguing
about
that,
but
that
that
that's
been
safeguarded.
Aggregate
so
I
appreciate
your
coming
forward
with
that
commented
and
I
do
appreciate
that
your
major
concern
is:
is
safety
and
of
the
trucks
in
that
role,
because
it
is
it's
going
to
make
a
difference.
C
B
H
I
mean
even
if
you
put
a
stop
sign,
for
example,
which
I
I
don't
know.
If
that's
legal,
to
put
a
stop
sign.
Well,
I
suppose
it
is
right
at
the
exit
for
the
truck
still
have
to
climb
that
hill
and
still
would
all
be
going
very
slow
when
they
open
up
onto
the
long
straightaway.
So
is
that
northbound
or
southbound
trucks
have
to
climb
out
as
well.
So
there's
two
issues
really
I
mean
ones,
I,
guess
the
lesser
concern
for
the
city
right
now,
which
is
environmental
over
the
50
or
60
years.
H
A
lifetime
of
the
pit
coming
on
normal
level
versus
coming
out
in
the
middle
of
a
gully
is
going
to
be
a
huge
environmental
impact
from
the
point
of
view
of
fuel
consumption
over
50
years.
But
my
concern
is
actually,
and
it's
really
more
northbound
themselves
down
and
90
percent
of
traffic
is
going.
Northbound
is
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
crest
the
hill
if
the
traffic
studies
are
right
about
50
kilometres
an
hour
now
that
was
based
on
a
ten
meter
truck.
H
If
you
take
it
twice
as
long
a
truck
and
voices
heavy
a
truck.
That's
probably
slower
they're,
not,
and
so
these
cars
when
they
come
out
they're
I
mean
when
I
say
the
average
is
95
kilometers
an
hour
day
is
when
people
are
in
a
hurry
and
it's
a
lot
faster
than
not
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
processing,
and
so
the
trucks
are
going
to
come
out
over
the
top
of
the
hill
and
go
like
up
how.
H
B
H
H
C
Are
there
any
other
questions?
Okay,
thanks
very
much
for
that
and
appreciate
your
coming
in
and
it's
nice
to
see.
You
good
and
I
know
I
know
very
well
the
condition
of
the
matter
fact.
The
condition
of
25
north
of
bail
money
is
in
really
bad
shape.
It's
it's
worse
than
in
front
of
your
place,
so
I
mean
it's
and
I
think
we've
talked
with
the
city,
road
staff
and
that
that
section,
I
I,
don't
know
the
timeline.
But
that's
going
to
have
to
be
resurfaced
very
soon.
A
F
F
Designing
application
that,
before
you
today,
is
to
allow
for
a
salmon
gravel
pit
with
extraction
below
the
established
water
table.
The
area
that's
proposed
to
be
licensed
is
52
Hector's,
with
the
parking
45
Hector's
proposed
for
extraction
this,
this
location
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
there's
a
scarcity
of
good
quality,
sound
and
gravel
deposits.
The
subject
lines
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
contain
sand
and
gravel
resources
of
primary
and
secondary
significance,
as
identified
by
the
in
Ontario
Geological
Survey.
F
What
that
means
is
that
these
that
this
resource
at
this
important
resource
is
suitable
for
high
quality
uses
such
as
concrete's
and
ash,
bolts
and
mortar
sand
and
dining
materials,
I
was
going
to
talk
about
the
planning
process,
but
I'll
skip
that
has
already
been
covered.
The
before
this
before
this
official
process
began.
F
That
is
before
the
actual
resource
license
application
and
say
license
was
submitted
I've
every
time.
Some
how-to
information
sessions,
pre
consultation
sessions
with
homeowners
from
you,
including
the
including
residents
for
cake
or
farm
Lane,
and
people
around
the
area
that
was
done
in
September
of
sorry,
those
done
in
February
of
2012
and
March
of
2013.
The
purpose.
The
purpose
of
those
meetings
was
to
provide
information
and
also
to
listen
to
the
concerns
that
people
may
have
so
that
we
could
deal
with
them
during
the
design
of
the
pet
before
the
applications
were
actually
submitted.
F
The
Pitons
owning
applications
included
technical
studies
such
as
truck
traffic,
noise,
natural
environment,
water,
land
use
planning
and
archaeological
studies.
The
results
of
those
technical
studies
have
been
incorporated
in
in
the
site
plans
which
will
be
submitted
with
the
Ministry
of
Natural
Resources
and
they
will
regulate
the
operation
of
the
pit.
Extraction
of
the
site
were
proceeding.
Stages
with
ongoing
progressive
would
be
rehabilitation.
The
end
result
here
will
be
a
lake
with
shallow
shoreline,
and
a
variety
of
trees
will
be
planted
within
the
setbacks.
F
Both
join
the
operations
in
this
priority
rehabilitation
plan,
a
public
information
session,
as
required
under
the
Eiger
resources
act,
was
held
on
september
12
2013
to
provide
residents
with
more
information
on
the
application
in
town.
So
any
further
questions
that
they
may
have
the
subject
lines
are
designated
locating
the
designated
truck
route,
which
is
stagecoach
road.
The
recent
review
continues
to
identify
it
as
such.
Through
the
transportation
master
plan,
trucks
will
utilize
stagecoach
as
a
high
rate.
It's
consistent
with
city
policy.
F
The
proposed
site
access
has
been
chosen,
taking
into
account
safe
site
distances
truck
acceleration
times.
Traffic
volumes
along
stagecoach
roads
and
separation
from
existing
intersections
Tomlinson
has
agreed,
has
also
agreed
to
the
site
requirements
outlined
by
staff,
which
you
have
in
the
report
from
stuff.
F
The
city's
transportation
staff
agreed
with
these
conclusions
when
we
design
these
types
of
operations
we're
not
only
taking
to
account
municipal
transportation
policies,
we
also
try
to
choose
the
route
of
least
impact
stagecoach
road
is
designated
is
a
designated
truck
route.
Well,
second
line
is
a
local
gravel
road,
I'm
gonna
kill.
You
have
one
minute
to
say:
if
the
access
was
moved
to
second
line
there,
many
will
be,
nothing
would
be.
Inconsistent
city
policy
would
also
be
rooted.
F
That
does
not
have
the
least
impact
significant
improvements
with
significant
cost
will
be
required
to
the
existing
rail
network.
Trucks
would
pass
more
local
residences,
and
the
additional
travel
distance
would
result
in
addition
of
fossil
fuels
being
consumed,
where
we
like
their
quarry,
which
in
itself
would
have
environmental
impacts
from
what
I
don't
think.
It's
a
technical
issue,
it's
more
of
an
enforcement
issue
on
that
road,
the
stuff
all
the
studies
that
we
have
support
the
who
support
this
application.
F
Through
a
pre
consultation
visually,
the
operations
will
be
screened
by
landscape
burns
and
tree
screens.
I
said
this
to
our
pre
consultation
with
the
residents
around
the
area.
That
was
an
important
element
and
that's
been
emphasized.
In
our
site
plans.
We've
concluded
that
the
proposed
application
can
operate
within
provincial
standards
and
minimizes
social
impacts
on
the
surrounding
areas.
We
received
numerous
comments
from
the
public
in
regard
to
the
zoning
application.
F
I
submitted
a
chart
to
previously
that
I
hope
you
have,
and
that
shows
our
responses
back
to
those
comments,
and
we
received
two
objections
through
the
agency
and
public
consultation
through
the
minute
to
the
provincial
through
the
provincial
process
through
the
aggregate
resources
act,
both
the
needle
Dunedin
Valley
Conservation
Authority
in
the
south
nation,
Conservation
Authority
have
reviewed
this
application
and
do
not
object
to
it
and
do
not
object
to
it.
Groovy
support
staffs
recommendation
to
approve
the
zoning
bylaw
and
we
anticipate
staff
I,
recommend
removal
of
the
holy
symbol
and
remaining
live
shortly.
C
I
just
want
to
thank
you
Dominic,
for
the
way
that
this
file
has
been
handled.
I
know
you
work
very
early
because
there
was
concern,
obviously
from
the
residents
and
the
two
subdivisions
across
the
road
and
I
think
you
eliminated
a
lot
of
their
concerns
being
up
front
with
this
and
I
know.
I
attended
a
couple
of
those
meetings.
I
think
the
residents
appreciated
finding
out,
because
when
an
application
like
this
comes
forward,
it,
it
sometimes
is
residents
worst
nightmare,
but
I
think
you've
handled
that
that
process
really
well
so
I
wanted
to.
C
I
You
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
obviously
we
heard
from
the
resident-
and
we
heard
from
the
applicant
there's
a
concern
with
the
road
itself
and
I
can
relate
to
that
in
some
of
the
area
we
have
with
heavy
truck
and
involved
with
the
you
know,
residential
traffic.
Now,
from
an
from
a
study
on
the
traffic
we
heard
about,
also
enforcement
or
lack
of
enforcement
have
have
rejected
the
road
with
their
o-p-s
and
our
traffic
staff.
What
what's
this
the
average
speed
and
that
road?
What's
then
for
do
we
have
any
detail
on
this.
I
I
So
obviously
it's
not
the
problem
is,
is
not
the
enforcement
of
the
road.
Basically,
if
that's
the
average
speed
of
between
83
and
84
and
the
speed
do
we
do.
We
have
an
estimation,
what's
going
to
be
once
truck
involved
with
the
road
or
that
can
we
do
some
estimation?
How
much
stuffs
want
to
be
the
traffic
wants,
the
truck
usually.
I
You
need
enforcement
because
you
know,
if
you
stop
sign
there
and
and
people
don't
follow
the
rule,
will
it
be
this
way
you
know
better?
The
other
question
I
have
is
about
blastin,
so
we
had
and
we
have
that
right
across
the
city
we
told
the
resident
blastin
is
monitored
by
M&R
and
they're,
the
one
who
monitored
the
size
and
after
blastin
and
they're
supposed
to
weigh
in
inform
some
of
their
residential.
But
then
I
I
saw
I
was
like
9.
I
We
thought
about
glasses,
so
I
like
to
know
what
comes
through
blaster
and
people
have
concerned.
Is
the
see
who's
going
to
take
responsibility
and
enforce
it
with
with
the
quarry
operator
or
is
going
to
be
the
ministry,
because
that
need
to
be
clear
and
you
almost
like
number
9.
If
you
go
back
to
your
slide
number,
my
you
talk
about
the
blastin
and
that
quarry.
E
I
Last
thing
happened:
does
the
city
have
the
authority
to
stop
that
or
if
the,
if
the
quarry
operation
within
the
demand
ate
from
em
and
odd
I
like
to
know,
because
we
hear
that
oh
no
they're
not
going
to
be
any
blast,
and
and
next
thing
you
know,
there's
a
blastin
taking
place
and
people
call
us
and
say
no.
The
city
doesn't
monitor
the
blast,
and
so
I'd
like
to
clarify
this
for
our
resident
like
what
is
it.
E
My
understanding,
when
it
comes
to
blasting
or
quarry
operations,
is
it's
the
owner
or
the
proponent,
has
to
generally
what
they
all
do
and
I
think
it's
part
of
their
personal
insurance.
When
they
start
blasting,
they
typically
go
around
the
the
adjacent
lands
and
and
insure
that
first
of
all,
they
check
whether
or
not
there's
any
current
damage,
whether
it's
cracks
and
foundations
and
and
and
so
on.
E
I
Mr.
mark,
if
blasting
took
place
on
the
quarry,
is
the
city
can
enforce
that
or
Emma
nod
has
to
enforce
the
blastin
and
the
level
of
blasting
take
place.
I
understand
this
file
say
you
know
there,
there's
no
need
for
blasting
but
I'm,
sorry
to
be
a
little
bitter
in
convinced,
because
sometimes
those
things
takes
place,
I
like
to
make
sure
if
those
take
place
on
the
quarry
cast
it
should
they
call
the
city
or
should
they
call
M&R?
They
should
mr.
cherrick
on
Ministry
of
Natural
Resources.
It's
not
a
city
matter
to
enforce.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
and
just
a
question
for
the
traffic
department.
In
terms
of
this
new
exit.
That's
going
to
be
created
on
stage
Court
Road,
the
modification
for
the
road
itself
in
terms
of
turning
lanes
in
terms
of
speed
up
lanes
for
the
trucks
going
up
embankment.
Is
that
responsibility
of
the
city
or
will
that
be
responsibility
of
the
proponent.
B
G
Acceleration
lanes
required
the
existing
road
enough
capacity
to
accommodate
truck
traffic.
It's
two-lane
arterial
road
and
it
has
sufficient
capacity
for
the
truck
traffic
in
terms
of
the
access
to
the
pet.
We
have
requested
that
it
is.
It
should
be
built
in
accordance
to
the
private
approach
by
law
and
it
should
be
paved
for
a
distance
of
at
least
assess
the
meter
from
the
property
line
into
the
side
and
accommodate,
of
course,
sign
edges
and
the
flashing
lights
to
alert
motorists
of
the
location
of
the
axis.
So.
B
You're
saying
that
there
is
no
need
for
another
lane
of
acceleration
or
deceleration
in
terms
of
going
up
that
hill
for
those
trucks,
because
I
mean
the
trucks
are
coming
out
of
the
exit.
Yet
they're,
coming
on
to
an
80
kilometer
an
hour,
speed
limit
posted
on
stagecoach
road
they're,
certainly
not
going
to
be
doing
that
speed
going
up
the
hill.
So
should
we
not
have
looked
at
some
kind
of
an
acceleration
lower
lane
for
them,
so
they're
not
affecting
the
natural
flow
of
the
traffic,
their.
G
B
B
Think
that
was
the
concern
of
the
representative,
mentioning
the
fact
that
then
you
will
have
vehicles
passing
each
other
and
maybe
possibly
creating
some
safety
issues
in
the
future
and
you're
saying
that
you've
looked
our
they
traffic
department
as
it
looked
at
that
and
you
don't
see
any
concern
with
that.
We.
C
B
B
Right
because
new
drive
is
quite
heavily
trafficked.
Obviously,
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
in
there.
The
proponent
that
we're
talking
about
also
has
standing
by
open
on
that
road.
You've
got
caught,
lumber
you've
got
the
trailer
landfill.
You've
got
multiple
facilities
on
Murray
Drive
we
drive
is
a
two-lane
rural
arterial,
EDD
climbers.
Now
the
entire
way
no
journey
lanes
off
no
zones
to
have
accelerating
traffic.
Nothing
I
represent
that
area.
B
So
I
can't
imagine
why
we
would
all
of
a
sudden
have
a
higher
level
of
requirement
on
stagecoach
for
one
sander
gravel
pit
when
we
have
none
of
those
requirements
on
Moody
Drive,
so
I
see
no
problem
with
the
application
as
it
stands
today
and
when
you
compare
it
to
other
areas
in
the
city
that
are
much
busier,
everything
works.
Fine,
so
I
don't
see
any
any
requirement
to
change
anything
when
it
comes
this
application.
I
think
it'll
be
fine.
Thanks.
Thank.
C
You
very
much
John
Robert,
I
I,
appreciate
the
comments
and
I
appreciate
you,
mr.
radik,
coming
in
and
I
understand.
Thank
you
for
those
comments,
councillor
Moffat,
because
I
guess
it
puts
it
into
perspective,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
there
aren't
problems
and
I
your
your
comparison.
I
don't
know
I!
Guess
it's
a
flat.
C
B
C
Mr.
radik
is
in
the
board
for
30
years
and
I
know
you
rode
really
well
and
I
know
that
the
that
section
or
stagecoach
road
is
a
feeder
for
for
south
of
us.
North
Dundas
residents
drive
in
there
in
the
morning
and
there's
a
pile
of
them
must
steady
traffic
and
III
during
the
day.
Perhaps
the
traffic
isn't
as
heavy,
but
I
I
have
some
trepidation
of
a
declare.
Seven
o'clock
7:30
in
the
morning
when
the
trucks
are
coming
out
of
there
and
the
traffic
is
coming.
C
Is
it
something
that
we
should
I
know?
For
example,
there
are
pits
on
Bank
Street,
greedy
saturd
gravel,
and
they
try
to
get
out
onto
Bank
Street
if
they're
going
south.
That's
not
so
bad.
If
they're
going
north,
it's
just
terrible,
but
is
it
something
the
city
should
be
looking
at
in
and
I
I
have
to
respect
that.
Your
comment
is
that
you
don't
foresee
a
problem,
but
I
just
I
sense
that
we
are
going
to
have
some
problems,
perhaps
not
at
this
site
on
others.
Is
there
some
mechanism
or
are
your
tests
and
results?
G
We
don't
see
a
problem
in
particular
throughout
the
day
there
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
delay
in
the
peak
hour,
but
during
that
they
should
be
fine.
The
average
annual
daily
traffic
on
a
stagecoach,
for
example,
is
less
than
4,000
vehicles
a
day
while,
as
rural
arterial
roads
it
reaches
over
10,000
vehicles
a
day.
So,
given
that
ratio,
we
believe
that
there
is
enough
capacity
for
the
route
to
to
accommodate
additional
traffic.
C
G
C
G
C
C
G
G
G
C
It
was
I
have
one
of
the
question:
do
you
do
you
monitor
these
when
there's
a
new
access?
Does
the
city
mother?
Well,
I
have
two
questions
one.
You
may
not
be
able
to
answer,
but
if,
if
this
item
is
passed
and
and
the
quarry
opens
just
do
you
work
or
does
the
city
Road
staff
come
out
and
take
a
look
because
there's
going
to
be
increased
traffic
and
as
mr.
radik
indicated
it's
not
an
immediate
horizon
that
this
would
be
repaved
unless
Tomlinson
would
agree
out
of
the
generosity
of
their
heart.
C
Dominick
isn't
listening
to
repave
as
such
in
that,
but
this
is
that
things
like
that
move
the
repaving
up,
because
just
north
of
down
the
road,
the
road
is
in
terrible
condition
and
the
increased
truck
traffic
I
have
Dominic's
attention
now.
Maybe
Tomlinson
would
like
to
donate
three
paving
of
stagecoach,
oh,
but
but
this
is,
do
you
work
or
deceased
have
take
a
look
at
and
change
the
parameters
or
timeline
or
resurfacing
that
road.
G
F
G
C
All
right
thanks
very
much.
Okay,
I,
don't
have
any
other
questions,
so
anyone
wish
to
comment
on
the
application,
so
I
I
presume
that
there
is
no
willingness
to
discuss
any
alterations
to
the
and
I
think
the
main
objection
here.
Our
main
concern
is
the
location
of
the
entrance,
so
seeing
none
on
this
item-
Carrie,
okay,
moving
on.
C
Any
items
none
have
been
brought
forward.
Information
play
the
lead
previously
distributed,
2013
2013
funding
decisions
for
the
royal
Association
Partnership
Program
world
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grants
of
program
is
up
to
received
open
mic
session.
We
had
someone
who
had
called
but
I,
don't
see
her
here.
Shirley
Dolan
is
she.
C
D
That
would
be
great.
This
is
on
I
assume.
It
sounds
like
it's.
Your
wire
I'm,
like
okay
good
good
morning
mr.
chair
mr.
vice
chair
who's
here
and
counselors
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
topic
today.
My
name
is
Joey
Dolan
and
I'm,
a
resident
and
property
owner
in
West,
Carlton
and
I'm.
Making
this
presentation
today
about
a
subject,
that's
very
important
to
me,
my
family,
my
neighbors
and
my
friends
in
rural
Ottawa.
D
In
other
words
your
constituents
I'm
referring
to
the
Emily's
deep
I-5
guideline,
which
the
City
of
Ottawa
on
the
recommendation
of
staff
adopted
as
a
condition
for
single
lot
severance
--is
in
rural
Ottawa,
the
MOA
deep
I-5
guideline
from
1996
was
it
was
designed
to,
as
you
know,
provide
technical
guidance
in
the
assessment
of
groundwater
quality
and
quantity
in
the
development
of
individual
private.
Well,
water
supplies.
D
In
other
words,
can
they
go
back
and
look
at
it
and
see
whether
or
not
it's
really
necessary
on
single
lot
severance
--is
and
then
to
report
back
to
to
this
committee
and
I'm,
hoping
that
on
receiving
this
report,
that
this
committee
can
then
vote
on
that
request,
and
my
reasons
for
this
are
as
follows:
I
believe
that
the
responsibility
for
water
quality
should
rest
with
the
property
owner
defy.
Five
is
not
a
requirement
for
single
rinses
in
any
of
our
neighboring
counties
and
I'm
fairly,
confident
that
councillors
representing
Awards
in
Ottawa.
D
So
it's
my
belief
that
this
is
an
unfair
application
of
the
provincial
guideline
for
in
many
cases
what
is
aesthetic
reasons
so
that
is
that
the
water
is
potable.
It
is
drinkable
but
may
not
meet
tests
or
appearance
parameters.
So
when
a
professional
opinion
is
provided
and
that
opinion
suggests
that
the
water
is
safe,
then
it's
my
position
that
seven
says
should
be
allowed
to
proceed.
D
So
gentlemen,
many
property
owners
and
business
people
have
spoken
to
me
of
their
concerns.
Regarding
the
negative
impact
of
this
guideline
and
I
believe
that
removing
this
requirement
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
For
the
rural
residents
of
the
city
of
Ottawa,
so
I'm
submitting
to
you
today
that
this
presentation
and
a
report
which
you
have
that
you
already
have,
which
outlines
my
appeal
to
you
to
have
staff
review
this
request
to
remove
the
defy
five
guideline
as
a
condition
of
single
out
severance
Asst
and
to
report
back
to
this
committee.
D
C
C
Thanks
very
much
and
I
appreciate
as
members
that
committee
do
your
presentation
you're
aware
that
we
don't
make
when
you
have
a
presentation
over
mic,
we
don't
make
decisions,
we
can't,
but
certainly
we
can
ask-
and
we
would
refer
with
the
concurrence
of
committee,
for
staff
to
review
it
and
then
come
back
and
make
a
decision.
I
know
this
issue
quite
well.
I
C
I
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
to
miss
Dolan
for
making
the
trip
this
morning,
I
believe
mr.
chair,
our
staff,
we
asked
in
the
past
and
they
are
working
with
some
of
their
colleague
from
from
around
the
province
and
around
this
area
of
Ottawa
and
just
a
small
correction.
We
we
canvass
the
most
municipality
around
Ottawa
and
they're
all
using
the
D
5
5
as
a
guideline
and
I
know
at
read
guideline
in
regulation,
but
then
every
item
it
says
shall
not
exceed.
I
This
number
should
not
and
I'm
one
of
those
people
who
believe
there's
something
could
be
done
with
today's
technology
and
I
hope.
Our
staff
will
work
with
their
colleague
in
the
province,
try
to
convince
the
Ministry
and
to
come
up
with
it
with
a
new
guideline,
because
this
guideline
has
been
there
since
1996
with
all
the
technology
we
have
seen
I
think
we
can
do
better
job
and
addressing
this
concern.
But
let
me
tell
you
mr.
chair
some
of
the
area.
Some
of
the
things
happen
in
the
past
had
come
back
to
haunt
you
forever.
I
Our
school
board
in
West,
Oakland,
High
School,
is
spending
tremendous
amount
of
money
every
years
on
a
bottle
water
just
because
the
authorizer
school
in
the
area
where
they
didn't
have
the
portable
water
or
the
safety
of
the
water.
So
with
that
I
would
leave
it
in
the
hand
of
staff
and
I
hope
we
can
direct
our
staff
to
continue
working
with
their
colleague
right
across
the
province
and
please
revisit
this
guideline
because
it's
time
to
to
the
visit
it's
over
20
years
now.
Thank
you,
mrs.
Chan.
Thank
you.
Miss
Donna,
as.
C
Always
councillor
that
the
Muriel
Chantilly
thank
you
for
your
wise
counsel
and
I.
Think
I
think
it's
a
consensus
of
the
committee
that
we
are
staff
to
to
review
this
and
report
back
to
us
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
deal
with
this
at
committee.
So
I
see
a
nodding
of
heads
so
appreciate
that,
are
there
notices
of
motion
for
consideration
of
subsequent
meetings,
seeing
none
inquiries,
I
have
an
inquiry,
but
I,
don't
have
a
read
note
so
maybe
like
just
get
two
years
of
the
staff
and
I
would
send
it
to
two.
C
C
C
But
the
larger
ones
they
may
not
be
for
worldly,
but
they
look
like
four
by
eight
yeah,
but
I
I
was
under
the
impression
that
when,
when
their
their
foot
up
so
that
the
public
knows
that
this
property
is,
is
there's
something
having
this
property
and
I
I
understand.
The
city
has
contract
to
have
those
put
up
on
those
properties,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
the
contract
extends
to
having
them
taken
down.
You.
B
B
C
So
I
will
I
will
make
a
written
enquiry
and
CC
you
on
it,
because
it
and
maybe
I,
don't
understand
that.
But
there
are
some
that
I,
just
I
cannot
believe
it
looks
like
they've
they've
they've
seen
their
good
their
best
times
the
best
before
date.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
long
before
that
is
there
any
other
business.