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B
Thank
you,
I
was
speaking
to
to
mark
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
go
through
the
consent
agenda
and
then
we'll
have
your
item
as
first
item.
So
we
can
relieve
staff,
you
and
I.
Don't
know
it
done.
Her
was
going
to
be
there
whatever,
but
I
thought
we'd.
Do
it
first
and
now
is
the
request
just
for
the
for
Rural
Affairs
or
there's
a
quest
for
glasses
to
fair
as
well
yeah.
C
B
C
Not
the
impression
we
got
from
speaking
with
them,
you
lie,
but
if
you
want
to
make
that
distinction,
we
can't
they
are
moving
the
fair.
So
they
have
about
forty
thousand
dollars
in
costs
this
year
to
make
that
happen
within
the
fairground,
so
they
do
have
costs.
So
we
were
prepared
to
provide
all
five
I
hadn't
heard
otherwise,
on
that,
if
we
want
to
go
to
for
you
guys
just
good
word,
no.
B
D
B
D
B
D
D
Well,
I
mean
that's
all
part
of
the
same
Fallowfield
Bleek's
issue
right,
so
he
had
asked
he
had
asked
a
while
back
for
the
report
and
I
believe
we
sent
him
that
report
I,
don't
maybe
Robin
might
know
more
see.
There's
that
there's
there's
the
report,
but
then
there's
the
Lear
stuff
from
before.
With
the
soils
numbers
yeah.
That's
all
that's
all
of
it.
Excuse
me.
That's
all
available
and
I'm
certain.
We
sent
him
that
just
to
let
you
know
we
are
live
so.
B
D
D
No,
it's
not
happen.
Oh
so
it's
Maria,
Marie
town
is
on
behalf
of
a
landowner
on
Dwyer
Hill,
Oh
Tony
Fernandes
on
his
own
behalf.
He
owns
land
east
of
Muenster
mark
is,
is
Keith
is
Keith
the
speaker
Bob.
D
B
D
A
D
E
B
E
B
E
A
F
B
A
B
A
B
Like
they
get
this
from
Florida,
so
if,
if
it's
gonna
flood
whatever
or
flood
season,
you
can
increase
your
foundation,
so
your
whole
house
would
go
up
and
then
just
bring
it
down
when
yeah,
it's
all
right,
yeah,
they
invited
us
to
go
to
see
the
way.
It's
done.
It's
beautifully
done.
You
won't
even
notice
other
than
in
regular
foundation
to
lift
it
up
beyond
the
level.
That's
sort
of
level,
and
then
you
know
is.
A
B
Okay,
so-
and
we
didn't
hear
from
my
counselor
me
and
if
she's
gonna
join
us
or
not
correct,
not
yet
no
okay,
we'll
let
you
handle
that
part
mark
its.
B
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
a
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
item
one
two,
four
and
six
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
item
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submission
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendment
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
at
pre
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
have
pre
of
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
a
pre-trib
u.s.
B
If
you
have
any
motion
on
any
of
the
items
listed
today,
please
send
a
copy
to
us
ahead
of
the
public
delegation,
so
that
committee,
member
and
staff
have
an
opportunity
to
review
and
necessary
clarify
your
motion
during
the
discussion
of
the
matter.
Thank
you
folks
and
with
that
declaration
of
interest,
I
see
none
confirmation
of
minute
minute.
Fourteen
neaten
of
June
4th
2020
of
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
and
many
three
planning
committee
and
agricultural
committee
join
meeting,
may
11
12
and
May
1925
on
a
minute
Kay.
B
Thank
you
so
we'll
go
through
the
consent
agenda.
First
and
and
we
will
start
with
item
number
1
planning
and
plan
a
subdivision
plan.
Condominium,
31:19,
cart,
Road
public
meeting
and
we
have
no
speaker
on
the
item
and
we
have
the
we
have
mr.
winter
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
if
necessary,
and
also
Angela
junkman
Robinson
land
development,
also
on
the
call
so
on
the
item.
B
B
B
B
Thank
you
item
number
four
is
Official
Plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
77
32,
snake
island
road.
We
have
no
milk,
Spreaker
register
speed,
the
planner
Jeff
us
of
a
truck,
and
we
have
the
applicant
mr.
mayor
on
behalf.
The
applicant
I
mean
also
I
believe
mr.
Chow
doesn't
need
to
speak.
If
we
can
carry
this
item
on
the
item
carried
mr.
Chan,
you
don't
need
to
speak.
Is
that
correct
I
know
Mary
somewhere,
but
teeny
memories.
F
B
Yeah,
okay!
Well,
he
didn't
ask
to
speak
so
I
assume
we're
good
item
number
five
and
that's
follow
filled
with
soil
study
result.
The
planet
is
rather
Brandon
land
and
now
so
we
have
three
registered
to
speak
on
this
item.
Mr.
mayor
ciao,
Tony,
LaRhonda
and
Michael
Cavanaugh,
and
we
do
I
believe
have
a
presentation
from
staff
on
this
item.
Is
that
correct
mark
I.
B
We're
going
to
hold
item
number
510,
because
we
also
have
a
motion
from
councillor
Moffat,
we'll
introduce
it
when
we
come
back
to
this
item.
Item
number:
six:
temporary
zoning,
bylaw
amendment
outdoor
commercial,
patios
and
pop-up
retail
stores.
As
you
folks
know,
we
as
a
task
force
on
the
nurse
task
force.
We
working
with
our
staff
from
the
right-of-way
for
those
temporarily
help
the
local
businesses
to
expand
their
patio
and
I,
know
retail
stores
as
well.
So
this
this
item
I
believe,
went
to
our
plan
committee
and
also
come
in
to
us.
B
So
there's
no
speakers
on
this
item
so
on
the
item:
six
temp,
temporary
zoning
bylaw
amendment:
well:
okay,
okay,
Thank,
You
justice.
So
we
have
no
in
camera
item.
So
we
have
other
business
and
that's
we
have
a
motion
clear
by
it.
Counselor.
Mr.
vice
chair,
coward,
council
Gower,
you
have
the
copy
of
the
motion.
I
do.
A
B
Thank
you
out
in
service,
yes,
so
on
on
the
item
who
agree
to
have
this
presentation:
okay,
okay,
okay!
So
with
with
the
committee
and
altman
I
would
like
to
go
to
this
item
first,
because
we
have
staff
waiting
to
do
I,
believe
jobs.
The
Weizmann
will
have
the
designation
for
us
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
held
item.
Jardine.
Are
you
ready?
Yes,.
C
Thank
You
members
of
Iraq
and
chair
through
you
just
want
to
quickly
thank
counselor
Moffatt
really
for
raising
the
issue
around
the
fairs.
We
know
that
they
will
be
facing
hardships
this
year
on
account
of
kovat
19.
For
those
that
don't
know,
we
actually
have
five
rural
fairs
in
the
city
Turin
councillor
de
Rosas
ward,
so
these
fairs
they're
really
run
entirely
by
not-for-profit
agricultural
societies,
who
rely
on
the
revenues
for
ongoing
programming
things
like
rent
taxes,
as
well
as
maintenance
and
operating
costs
facility
upgrades
you
know.
C
The
money's
made
at
the
fares
are
reinvested
into
the
community,
for
example
in
youth
in
agriculture
through
4-h
programming,
and
we
know
that
some
of
these
programs
will
be
put
on
hold
this
year
as
a
result
of
kovat
and
those
lost
revenues,
and
that
really
will
have
an
impact
on
rural
communities
across
our
city,
the
fairs,
which
are
really
major
community
events.
They
really
form
part
of
the
DNA
of
rural
Ottawa,
as
our
rural
councilors
will,
let
you
know
they
provide
education
and
entertainment.
C
They
highlight
rural
life
in
agriculture
and
residents
really
look
forward
to
them.
Many
months
in
advance
of
the
fairs
actually
there's
even
no
friendly
competition
amongst
the
fair's
I
would
say
in
terms
of
who
has
the
best
rule
fair
in
this
city
and
I'd
like
to
say
I'm
torn
on
that
I'm.
You
know
they're,
really
one
of
the
few
places
where
visitors
and
families
can
enjoy
an
authentic
experience,
whether
it's
riding
the
Midway
or
visiting
exhibits
games.
C
You
know
tasting
local,
fair
and
they
attract
visitors
from
across
the
city
and
beyond,
and
they
help
raise
awareness
about
our
rural
communities
and
their
traditions,
but
not
surprisingly,
they're.
Also,
they
also
generate
some
impressive
economic
benefit,
the
one
for
example.
If
I
looked
at
Richmond
last
year,
they
welcomed
45,000
visitors
through
their
gates,
who
spent
over
four
million
dollars
in
under
four
days,
and
and
these
are
just
direct
cost,
they
really
don't
speak
to
the
jobs
and
the
other
associated
spending
that
goes
along
with
people
visiting
our
rural
communities.
C
So
really,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
given
the
importance
of
affairs
and
their
ongoing
contribution,
the
ongoing
contributions
of
our
AG
societies,
the
Rural
Affairs
Office,
will
be
allocating
some
of
its
annual
grant.
Funding
to
help
on
a
one-time
basis,
and
that
again
is
to
support
things
like
maintenance
operating
costs,
things
that
would
go
into
programming
those
those
other
lost
revenues.
So
we
know
that
the
amount
is
small
compared
to
the
contribution
made
by
the
AG
societies,
but
each
dollar
counts
at
a
time
of
need.
C
So
the
Rural
Affairs
Office
was,
with
the
support
of
the
rural
councilors,
will
allocate
$15,000
per
fare
is
a
one-time
grant
fund
and
this
money
comes
out
of
the
rural
offices
grant
budget
which
these
societies
are
eligible
to
receive,
and
this
year
the
grant
is
undersubscribed
and
we
think
that's
because
of
the
the
circumstances
were
under
with
co-head
and
some
of
those
community
groups
not
coming
forward
with
projects
this
year.
Making
this
contribution
all
more
possible.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much,
Joe
yeah
that
that's
great
news
for
era
for
all
the
fairs
in
a
rural
area.
We
all
know
their
contribution.
I
guess
we're
gonna
have
to
you
know
whether
to
for
a
tour,
educate
or
also
their
support,
most
of
their
the
share.
They
they
have
the
charity
of
their
own
to
help
out
and
I
know
in
our
community.
We
do
also
the
drive-by
bingo,
which
was
cancelled
this
year,
also
to
contribute
to
the
local
charities
in
in
our
area.
That's
great
news
and
that
colleague
any
question,
and
he
counseled
leaders
and.
A
Well,
thank
you
mr.
chair
I,
just
want
to
comment
and
I
want
to
thank
Geraldine
hard
work
with
councillor
Moffat
and
yourself.
This
is
a
really
important
initiative
that
we
could
do
the
minimum
to
help
our
affairs
and,
on
behalf
of
an
event
Navin
and
capital
and
medical
fair.
We
thank
all
of
you
and
we
thank
the
committee
for
their
continued
support
and
I
know
I'm
sure,
Richmond
and
carp.
Everybody
will
be
also
happy
for
that.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Thank.
H
Hi
everybody
Geraldine.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
conversation
and
the
recommendation
and
I'm
really
happy
that
I'm
sure
everybody's
going
to
support
this
with
some
of
the
work
that
I'm
doing
it's
clear
that
the
4-h
clubs
across
Ontario
have
never
been
more
important,
but
I
think
there's
really
seeing
a
resurgence
of
support.
H
Our
youth
and
you
know
with
what's
happening
in
Ontario
right
now.
You
know
we
know
the
the
migrant
workers
and
our
dependents
and
for
a
large
farming
in
Ontario,
the
more
we
can
do
to
support
people
and,
in
particular,
youth
staying
engaged,
getting
engaged
and
thinking
big
picture
on
agriculture.
I
know:
I
I
have
a
person
that
I
know
quite
well
from
from
the
Kingston
area.
Who
is
a
4-h
alumni
herself,
but
she
is.
H
She
is
leader
of
one
of
the
4-h
groups
and
she
says
the
webinar
attendance
in
Ontario
that
they've
really
gone
high-tech
and
in
in
far-reaching
way.
So
I
think
that
this
is
absolutely
I'm
for
I'm
glad
that
we
have
the
money
to
do
it
and
we
don't
have
to
go
and
ask
for
it
because
these
are
hard
times.
H
But
when
we
have
the
money
in
the
reserves
and
a
lot
of
other
things
are
happening
this
year,
that
will
like
the
like,
the
like
the
local
fairs,
but
I
think
you
know
when
you
think
about
our
affairs
here,
whether
it
was
before
amalgamation
or
since
amalgamation.
There's
such
an
important
part
of
Ottawa's
culture
and
Ottawa's
history,
so
I'm
glad
that
we
can
support
them
in
this
way,
so
good
for
all
of
you
that
are
on
this
committee.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
B
B
It's
a
held
item
and
we
have,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
three
speakers,
but
we
have
a
motion
from
councillor.
Moffat
I
would
like
you
to
read
the
motion
first.
So
when
the
speaker
can
do
their
presentation,
they
can
comment
on
franceour
marvelous
motion
as
well.
Councillor
Moffat.
Can
you
read
the
whole
motion?
Please
I
will.
D
D
If
you
go
back
to
the
1990s,
there
was
a
pocket,
a
land
or
a
monster
that
that
rose
to
the
top
of
of
the
leer
at
that
time
and
that
that
when
the
regional,
miss
patty
von
Carlton
did
their
review,
it
wasn't
approved
at
that
time,
because
if
this
sent
this,
the
sense
in
the
area
was
that
that
land
actually
wasn't
prime
agricultural
land,
it
was,
it
was
quite
marginal.
You
know
the
farming
history
on
roads,
like
Mansfield,
will
tell
you
that
the
story
that
it's
relatively
marginal
lands
we
come
back.
D
We
do
the
lear
updates
in
2016,
and
these
lands
also
rise
to
the
top.
So,
instead
of
just
making
decision
on
it
at
that
time
and
casting
it
aside,
myself
and
Bruce
Finley
who
had
worked
closely
on
on
the
Lear
for
those
four
years,
he
just
recently
retired
all
the
best
tumours,
we
decided
that
we
would
take
a
more
in-depth
look
at
these
lands
in
the
Bleak
sand,
fallow
field
area
and
it's
really
two
pockets
of
land,
both
east
and
west
of
Muenster.
D
D
Sorry,
the
landowners
for
the
land
south
of
Falco
globe
and
north
of
Bleek's
between
Connelly
and
muenster
roads,
so
east
of
the
village
of
Worcester,
as
identified
document
for
continued
to
have
questions
on
the
Lear
scoring
in
this
area,
and
the
subsequent
designation
proposed.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
that
council
designate
land
at
two
three
nine
four
duardo
Road
as
general
in
the
new
Official
Plan
and
be
it
FURTHER
RESOLVED.
D
The
head
cultural
affairs
committee,
recommend
the
council
direct
staff
in
planning
infrastructure
act
on
economic
development,
engage
a
third
party
professional
hydrologist
to
undertake
a
peer
review
of
the
city's
soil
analysis
and
any
additional
information
made
available
for
the
land
south
of
fallow
field.
Road
north
of
Bleek's
road
between
Colley
and
monster
roads
has
identified
on
document
for
in
order
to
confirm
or
update
the
soils
mapping
for
the
purpose
of
the
city's
leer
and
report
back
to
committee
by
q4
of
2020.
D
The
reason
why
I'm
asking
for
this
third-party
review
is
that
from
2012
on
we've
had
multiple
applications
on
soils
in
this
city
and
every
one
of
them
all
through
the
Lear
and
the
different.
The
different
reports
that
we've
had
on
Barnsdale
lands
on
the
wall,
road
lands,
they
all
come
down
to
two
or
ologists,
and
the
one
that
the
city
uses
and
the
one
that
gets
used
for
all
the
other
appeals
and
they're,
always
at
odds
with
each
other.
D
D
That
third
party
review,
which
will
be
neither
of
these
two
individuals,
would
give
me
a
bit
more
certainty
as
to
what
I'm
looking
for
in
order
to
be
comfortable
with
the
scoring
of
these
lands.
It
also
provides
a
bit
more
time
for
the
residents
themselves,
who
were
relying
on
this.
This
study
before
they
move
forward.
So
it
gives
us
a
bit
more
time
to
come
back
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
this
year
to
look
at
this
a
bit
more
in
depth.
D
B
D
Right
so
and
there's
some
mystery
number
sign
so
when
it
came
to
when
we
approved
the
leer
in
2016,
and
we
made
the
changes
to
the
echoes
resource
area
in
the
general
area,
we
added
more
to
the
echoes
resource
area.
Then
we
took
away
so
there
was
an
increase
in
land.
If
you
look
at
the
actual
farming
numbers,
there's
a
reduction
in
the
total
number
of
farms.
That's
just
because
modern
farming
has
changed
the
way
things
are,
but
there's
more
farmland
designated
through
through
the
leer
okay.
B
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
started,
and
it
started
to
comment
now
what
we
can
go
to
to
get
to
the
presenters
and
hear
from
them
first
and
then
you
can
ask
staff
after
Robin.
Are
you
good
to
go
No
yeah?
Okay,
so
we
start
with
mr.
murdered
child.
No,
you
have
five
minutes
just
before
the
committee.
B
F
A
A
F
Okay,
so
thank
you
very
much.
So
I
am
appearing
today
on
behalf
of
the
owner
of
2390
for
Dwyer
Hill
Road,
and
if
I
can
read
just
quickly
from
a
staff
record,
it
says
quote:
there
was
only
one
parcel
of
land:
23,
94,
Dwyer,
Hill
Road,
see
document
5
that
was
not
reaffirmed
by
the
study
staff
agree
that
this
parcel
should
be
returned
to
a
general
rural
area
designation,
and
so
this
property
was
redesignated
from
general
rural
area
to
agricultural
Resource
Area.
F
That
would
be
no
different
than
the
report
that
you
were
dealt
with
earlier
this
morning
on
snake
island
Road,
where
staff
were
directed
to
bring
forward
an
official
plan
amendment
to
deal
with
the
situation
in
councilor
de
Rosa's,
Ward
and
I
thank
councillor
de
Roos.
For
that.
So
without
further
due
any
questions,
chair,
L,
shan't
Erie,
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you.
B
D
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
Marie
for
your
your
appearance
here
today.
It's
always
good
to
see
we
spoke
about
this
briefly
and
I
did
speak
to
staff
about
the
notion
of
an
official
plan.
Amendment
would
obviously
one
of
the
one
of
the
differences
about
the
fish
plan.
Amendment
versus
wrapping
into
the
Official
Plan
review
is
the
ability
to
appeal,
but
also
the
potential
timelines.
D
F
Socal
sorry
I
appreciate
that.
Yes,
we
did
talk
briefly
earlier
this
week.
So
if
there's
an
opportunity
in
queue
for
for
this
committee
to
at
that
time,
direct
staff
to
bring
forward
an
OPA
rather
than
waiting
until
the
new
OPA,
obviously
for
the
sake
of
a
few
months,
I
think
that
would
make
sense.
I
don't
want
to
make
work
for
staff
to
have
to
have
them
processing
an
OPA
for
my
clients,
property
and
then
three
or
four
months
later
start
processing,
another
OPA
for
the
lands
east
of
Munster.
D
B
Anyone
else
have
question:
I,
don't
see
any
hands
on
on
the
screen.
Thank
you
very
much,
but
just
question
Robin
when
in
a
motion,
when
we
ask
for
a
third
party
professional,
how
long
that
would
take
like
I
mean,
are
we
gonna
be
able
to
find
some
independent
out
of
the
two
people
you
know
into
the
city?
Far
oh
yeah.
E
3D
mr.
chair
I
hope
you
can
hear
me
fine.
The
there
are
very
few
individuals
that
specialize
in
soil
analysis
like
this.
The
the
pool
is
really
shallow.
There's
it's
true:
we've
actually
have
three
people
involved
in
this
AG
plan
was
Hajin
Hoffman,
two
of
their
very
notable
people,
and
then,
of
course,
Koval
report
was
done
for
a
property
on
Dwyer
Hill
Road.
There
were
very
few
I
I've
been
able
to
contact
a
couple
of
folks
who,
who
do
also
specialize
or
recognized
experts
in
this,
and
so
we
could
go
forward.
I.
E
Think
of
one
thing,
I
wanted
to
remind
you
of
the
day.
This
is
this
is
a
leer.
It's
not
just
soil
analysis
and
we
talked
about
land,
evaluation
and
area
review
and
in
the
case
the
drier
Hill
Road
lands.
We
had,
we
had
an
in
fact
emotion
in
2016,
really
related
to
the
land
evaluation
component,
not
being
not
being
in
correct,
so
I
think
when
we
come
forward
with
a
consultant,
we
will
be
looking
at
the
land
evaluation
component.
E
The
area
review
which
is
which
is
another
component
of
leer,
is
something
that
we
had
not
contemplated.
Redoing
and
that's
in
fact,
the
reason
that
we
staff
decided
that
we
would
try
to
rule
the
dryer
Hill
property
into
the
the
Official
Plan
review.
The
ìiî
plan
determined
that
there
was
a
difference.
There
was
a
rather
an
error
in
that
coal
will
report
that
that
the
soil
evaluation
was
not
evaluated.
E
Property
uses
candle
and
inventory
instead
of
the
land
information
ontario
database,
but
in
the
end
it
was
an
area
review
component
that
decided
us
to
take
those
lands
out.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that.
There's
there's
two
really
important
components
to
this.
If
we're
doing
forward
of
the
motion,
it's
only
related
to
land
evaluation.
That's
what
you're
going
to
get
okay.
B
A
You
mr.
chair
I,
just
want
to
make
a
brief
comment
because
earlier
Murray
was
not
on
was
not
available
when
snake
island
fight
came
up.
I
just
want
to
thank
Murray
for
working
with
our
Osgood
care
center
for
facilitating
this
official
plan,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
mr.
Willis,
of
course,
that
with
him
and
esteemed
Adam
Brown
and
the
plan
Jeff
because
he's
been,
they
were
very
hurt
around.
A
It
was
very
hard
filed
and
I
appreciate
all
the
word
that
done
behind
the
scene,
between
staff
and
mr.
Shaw
and,
of
course,
our
general
manager
of
planning
and
a
federal
community,
because
I
know
Scott
has
been
has
been
supportive
and
I'm
sure
yourself,
mr.
chair
and
all
the
member.
This
is
a
just
a
piece
of
land
that,
unfortunately,
when
they
build
as
good
care
center.
A
B
B
B
G
B
J
B
G
Okay
well
good
morning,
everybody,
my
name
is
Tony
fer
and
and
I
own
property
in
the
affected
area.
I
firmly
object
to
this
proposed
rezoning
in
November
of
2016,
my
neighbors
and
I
received
notice
that
the
city
was
proposing
to
resort
lands
for
general
rural
to
agricultural
resource
area.
We
were
firmly
opposed.
G
You
guys
still
got
me
there.
Okay,
sorry
I'm
new
to
this
I'm,
a
dinosaur.
With
this
thing.
We
were
up
close
at
the
time
because
we
knew
our
lands.
Many
people
have
been
on
it
for
generations,
they're
their
marginal
farmland,
not
prime
farmland,
and
we
objected.
We
were
told
that
our
ologist
would
study
our
land
to
confirm
if
it
were
soy
to
the
soils
were
agriculture
or
not,
and
that
was
in
December
of
2016
I'd
like
to
raise
some
very
serious
errors.
With
this
proposal
number
one
mr.
G
Well,
since
his
studies
took
place,
the
city
is
mapped
a
huge
area
of
floodplain
in
the
proposed
resource
area
that
occurred
in
the
spring
of
2018
after
he
he
did
his
sampling
and
I.
Remember
speaking
to
him
and
about
the
floodplain-
and
he
said
it
wasn't
mapped
as
a
flood
plane
lands
at
flood,
frequently
or
not
prime
agricultural
land,
and
that
has
not
been
taken
an
account
by
his
studies,
nor
was
severance.
Is
that
took
place
in
the
area
that
would
reduce
the
leer
scores
for
the
affected
properties
mark?
G
Could
you
bring
up
that
floodplain
map?
That's
coming
up
now.
Hope
it's
coming
up.
Okay,
so
there's
the
floodplain
map,
it's
kind
of
hard
I,
don't
know!
If
you
guys
can
see
this
I,
don't
see
it
very
well,
but
if
you
keep
yeah,
maybe
zoom
down
just
reducing
the
size,
yeah
yeah
there
you
go!
That's
that
fallow
field,
all
the
way
to
Bleek's
Road,
it's
a
very
large
area
that
blue
hatched
area.
Okay,
scope.
My
second
point
is
map
number
three.
G
If
you
can
bring
that
up
of
the
study
area
shows
that
the
predominant
soil
class,
if
you
can
you
zoom
down
to
map
three
and
there,
it
is
right
there
yeah
and
you
see
the
block
the
block
over
the
block
of
the
smaller,
the
bigger
block.
I'm.
Sorry,
map
number
three
shows
a
predominant
soil
class
as
class
number.
Four,
that's
the
yellow,
colored
lands
class
number
four
is
not.
The
lands
are
trying
to
protect
its
its
classes,
one
two
and
three,
and
with
so
much
class
for
land
in
the
study
area.
G
Why
was
not
a
single
parcel
removed
overall
I'm,
not
disagreeing?
Oh
there's,
a
few
discrepancies
with
the
eggplant
report,
but
overall
I'm
not
disagreeing
I
believe
that
it
shows
that
the
area
is
predominantly
not
prime
farmland
and
a
lot
of
the
land
should
be
removed
from
that
proposed
rezoning.
A
third
point,
I
think,
is
a
very
important
point.
If
you
can
bring
up
map
1b,
that's
map
one.
Actually,
you
can
stop
by
math
one
for
a
moment.
You
can
see
that
yellow
piece
of
land
is
proposed
for
rezoning
that
parcel.
G
It
was
never
even
included
in
the
the
boundaries
of
the
map.
If
you
bring
the
next
map
up
now,
please
I
call
it
map
1b,
you
can
see
right
there.
It
was
not
included
in
the
agricultural
resource
area
map.
So
why
is
it
included
now?
If
you
read
the
staff
conclusions,
the
areas
generally,
the
rest
basically
recommends
to
designate
all,
but
the
wooded
area
to
grow
cultural
resource
area.
That
is
fully
wooded.
It
was
not
even
included
in
the
proposed
area,
so
how
could
it
possibly
be?
Riku
can
be
included
now.
G
Number
four:
my
points:
the
cities
layer
system
requires
an
agricultural
resource
area
to
be
250
hectares
to
be
included
as
a
resource
area
and
I
find
that
very
reasonable.
It
goes
on
to
say
that
in
the
same
manner,
pockets
of
poor
soil
and
the
agricultural
resource
area
should
be
250
hectares
to
be
excluded.
That
is
Campari
completely
unreasonable.
I,
don't
I
find
that
illogical.
G
That
being
said,
if
you
look
at
map
number
three
later
on,
and
you
see
how
much
yellow
land,
how
much
land
is
not
class
one
two
and
three
is
in
that
resource
area.
There
is
more
than
250
hectares
that
could
be
excluded,
yeah
just
scroll
down
one
more,
please
and
I,
don't
believe
a
minute.
They
yeah
all
that
yellow
land.
All
that
land
is
class
war.
It's
not
what
they're
trying
to
protect
I'm
trying
to
protect
one
two
and
three
so
yeah.
G
That
I
would
like
to
see
that
evaluated
and
I
thanks
thanks
Scott
for
your
third-party
I,
think,
that's
a
good!
It's
a
good
stuff!
The
city
email,
which
I
received
on
June
26
to
employ
me
about
this
committee
meeting
states
that
no
appeals
were
filed
in
the
Fallowfield
bleak
study
area.
How
could
I
are
my
neighbor's
file,
an
appeal
if
we
had
absolutely
not
no
idea
were
completely
unaware
of
what
was
going
on
since
the
motion
I
believe
was
December
13
of
2016.
That
was
saying
we'll
study
the
lands.
G
I
didn't
hear
anything
from
booth
friendly,
occasionally,
I
would
talk
to
Scott,
Moffitt
and,
and
nothing
was
nothing
was
really
going
on.
It
was
in
limbo,
so
we
had
absolutely
no
idea
what
was
going
on.
We
were
not
advised,
there
was
an
appeal
period
and
how
could
we
appeal
something
that
we
just
received
two
weeks
ago,
how's
that
possible?
How
can
we
appeal
the?
What
are
we
gonna
peel?
Nothing
has
been
brought
up
so
that
doesn't
make
any
sense
of.
B
I
Thank
You
chair
I'm,
just
wondering
mr.
Furr
and
does
a
counselor
Moffitt's
motion
to
have
a
third
party
reviewer.
Would
you
be
happy
with
that
in
in
terms
of
the
land
that
you
you're
in
your
questioning
right
now,
yeah.
G
That's
I
think
that's
a
very
good
step,
but
I
also
kind
of
want
to
be
included
in
the
process
rate
like
before
they
had
someone
come
in
and
I
hear
nothing
from
roads.
It
was
that
two
years
and
a
half
click
I
reached
out
to
mr.
Finley
and
mr.
Finley
on
I,
know
some
time
in
general
of
January
2020
and
it
was
like
the
Kurds
were
held
close
to
his
chest.
We've
got
a
report.
We're
gonna
review
it
like
that's,
not
fair.
I
want
to
be
included
in
this.
If
land.
F
G
If
you
look
at
the
city,
if
you
look
at
Richmond
and
you
look
at
Winchester
and
there's
huge
areas
where
they're
farming
with
250
hectare,
250
horsepower
Surry
tractors,
if
it
was
that
kind
of
land,
I
would
not
be
disputing
it
like
I.
Would
anyone
who
wants
to
come
down
into
our
those
areas
to
look
at
that
and
see
if
it's
farmland,
it's
there's,
pockets
little
pieces
here
and
there
that
might
be
good,
but
overall
the
area
is
not
and
that's
why
I'm,
fighting
it
and
I
want
to
be
included.
G
I
G
No
I'm
not
looking
to
clear
that
it's
not
even
my
property
and
but
it's
a
very
good
friend
who's.
A
neighbor
of
mine
like
it's,
not
wasn't
even
included
in
their
2016
map
and
how
could
it
possibly
be
included?
Now
it's
forested,
it's
against
the
city's
recommendations
and
it
shouldn't
be
there
in
the
first
place.
There's
things
like
that
that
really
you
don't
stick
in
my
throat,
okay,.
I
A
I
I
B
E
Three
mister
chair
and
to
you
counselor,
the
the
LI
review,
had
an
extensive
consultation
as
part
of
OPA
180
I
can't
be
certain
that
every
every
landowner
received
an
individual
letter.
We've
done
that
previously
for
other
things
like
yeah
or
get
a
review,
but
there
was
there
was
a.
There
was
a
significant
amount
of
consultation
that
went
along
with
that.
Obviously
mr.
prenta
hadn't
received
anything.
You
know
we
apologized
for
that.
E
I
think
that
there
was
a
certainly
a
pretty
significant
public
consultation
process
that
went
along
with
that
will
tell
you
that
we
have
been
in
contact
with
mr.
frienda
a
few
times
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
and
we
were
certainly.
We
certainly
would
like
to
keep
them
and
his
neighbors
involved
through
consultation.
If
there
is
an
eight
additional
work
to
be
done,
yeah.
G
I
G
No
okay,
so
I
did
get
a
letter
or
sorry
an
email
and
I
don't
know
two
weeks
ago,
I
think
it
was
June
26th,
so
I
did
receive
an
email,
but
I
went
to
speak
to
all
my
neighbors
and
very
few
people
got
anything
at
all.
So
it's
not
just
me
and
like
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
this
letter.
This
letter
did
not
go
an
email
or
a
letter
did
not
go
to
most
of
the
people.
I
talked
to
on
Mansfield.
They
went
up
and
down
the
road
and
no
other
people
I'm,
so
small.
G
No
most
people
didn't
get
anything.
So
that
was
an
issue
and
even
for
instance,
if
you
have
somebody
reviewing
it,
I
would
like
to
speak
to
him
when
he's
removing
my
land
and
bring
him
to
every
the
third
party
overall,
just
as
and
bring
him
my
points
and
show
and
point
those
to
him,
because
if
they
don't
know
that
there's
a
flood
claim,
they
don't
know
that
their
severance
is
well.
How
can
they
possibly
evaluate
the
property
correctly?
And
that's
what
I'd
like
to
do.
I
G
I
D
Yes,
I,
don't
necessary,
have
a
question
for
Tony,
thanks
Tony
for
being
here.
Obviously,
you
may
have
discussed
this
quite
a
lot
in
the
last
four
or
five
years,
just
really
on
the
on
the
process.
Over
the
last
several
months,
Bruce
and
I
had
discussed
this
back
in
the
fall.
I
had
raised
my
desire
to
hold
off
and
bring
in
the
report
forward
to
committee
until
we
could
get
together,
discuss
it
further
and
then
actually
have
a
meeting
with
residents
that
we
would
invite
residents
to.
D
D
So
I
we
missed
our
window
bottom
line.
Is
we
missed
our
window?
I
I
would
have
preferred
a
much
more
direct
conversation
with
all
the
landowners
together
before
coming
forward
to
to
this
meeting,
I
did
talk
to
Tony
a
while
back
about
that
and
I.
Think
Tony
is
a
type
of
individual
that
can
speak
quite
well.
For
his
neighbors
as
well
so
I
know
that
if
I'm
talking
to
Tony
I'm
generally
talking
to
more
than
just
than
just
one
person,
because
he
embodies
a
lot
of
what's
what
his
neighbors
would
feel.
D
So
obviously
we
come
forward
to
this,
and
now
we
have
the
the
motion
to
provide
some
further
review,
which
gives
us
some
more
time
and
also
gives
residents
like
mr.
Franta
some
time
to
review
it
himself
with
with
a
neurologist
but
so
yeah.
It's
it
it's
less
than
ideal
the
entire
process
because
of
what
Kovac
kind
of
jumped
in
on
us
at
again,
full
intention
was
to
have
a
public
meeting
with
residents
before
it
came
to
Eric.
G
Yeah
I
agree
with
that,
like
what
you
said,
pretty
much
two
bodies
in
a
nutshell
like
they're.
What
and
I
understand
Cova
19
screws
things
up.
Unfortunately,
but
you
know
like
a
public
meeting
and
say
this
is
what
we're
this
is
what
we
think
the
next
step
is
we
sit
down?
We
talk
about
it,
that's
what
I
would
have
liked.
I
understand,
maybe
can't
happen
right
now,
but
hopefully
in
your
future.
It
can
you
know,
because
otherwise
people
feel
like
it
was
just
like
a
process
that
just
bypassed
them.
G
B
J
Sir
okay
so
plain
example,
the
property
that
I
live
on,
West,
half
15
concession
7,
which
used
to
be
Goulburn.
It's
been
in
the
family
for
probably
since
1920
I
believe
so
it
was
my
great-grandfather
and
my
grandfather,
my
father
myself,
we've
all
either
farmed
it
or,
in
my
case
I've,
probably
farmed.
It
I
still
retain
93
acres
on
that
property.
I
can
take
you
out
and
show
you
rock
right
on
the
surface,
which
is
just
good
for
pasture
land.
J
J
At
one
time,
the
back
of
the
property,
the
back
50
acres,
was
zoned
as
mineral
aggregate
and
of
course
we
fought
that
to
get
it
zoned
as
marginal
so
I
I
just
would
like
to
say
that
I
would
like
it
to
stay
as
marginal
land,
because
it
won't
get
any
better
unless
somebody
can
bring
in
lots
of
fill
to
top
it
off,
so
it
will
always
be
marginal
and
other
than
that.
I
was
disappointed.
That
I
didn't
hear
anything
from
the
city
about
this
meeting
as
well.
J
I
know
that
some
of
my
other
neighbors,
probably
it
would
have
been
more
time,
could
have
made
time
to
to
be
part
of
this
meeting
as
well.
So
I
would
like
to
say
if
there's
any
way
possible
to
defer
this
motion
until
the
fall
and
let
the
all
the
residents
know
exactly
what
is
going
on
because,
as
I
said,
I
lived
in
the
area
for
quite
some
time.
I
know
the
land
and
I
know
it's
not
primary
cultural
land.
B
D
Come
off
it
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
so,
when
you're
asking
for
deferral
into
the
fall
just
to
be
clear,
the
motion
that
I'm
bringing
forward
and
that's
gonna
be
voted
on
today
does
just
that.
It's
it
defers
any
sort
of
decision
on
your
lands
in
that
area
of
this
report
and
allows
for
third-party
review
of
what
we've
already
seen
brought
forward
in
the
two
previous
studies
on
this
in
2016
and
then
just
just
recently.
J
Yeah
no
I
heard
just
got
there.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
from
my
my
perspective,
everyone
knew
that
yes,
I
would
be
an
agreement
with
a
deferral.
I
would
also
like
to
know
exactly
where
the
individual
did
a
soil
testing,
because,
like
I
said
two
or
three
feet
other
than
where
he
made
Claudia
soil
samples
could
have
been
entirely
different,
like
it's
tough
at
best
to
to
dig
postholes
on
my
land.
I
can't
get
an
auger
in
I.
J
J
D
Sorry
yeah
because
I
know
that
when
when
we
did
the
the
2016
reports,
there
were
some
lands
that
were
deemed
marginal,
that
we
actually
pulled
out
of
the
I
culture
resource
area
along
Mansfield,
Road,
on
a
story,
backing
onto
bleak
story
on
ministry
Road,
but
lands
the
back
end
but
background
obliques.
That
was
a
part
of
a
different,
a
different
motion,
and
then
this
would
just
further
review
the
other
area
so
yeah
it's.
D
We
did
make
some
changes
back
there
in
terms
of
flipping
some
lands
from
a
closed
resource
area
to
general
rule
to
better
recognize
what
they
are.
This
review
was
just
to
sort
of
say
this
entire
area
is
questionable
as
to
whether
it
should
be
that
go-to
resource
area.
So
that's
what
we
hopefully
can
can
nail
down
a
bit
further.
I
D
If
you
look
at
their
reports
in
the
report,
there's
an
r6
map,
it's
it
just
says
scheduled
r6.
There
are
two
plots
of
land:
one
is
east
of
the
village
of
monster.
One
is
west
of
the
village
of
monster.
It's
the
entire
shaded
area,
east
of
the
village
of
monster.
On
that
r6
schedule,
it's
bounded
by
Munster,
Road,
Conley,
Road,
Bleek's,
road
and
Fallowfield
Road.
It's
a
fairly
significant
piece
of
land,
a
size
of
size
of
area
in
terms
of
the
actual
property
owners
in
that
area.
I
B
D
Just
mean
I'm
set
up
said
everything
to
the
motion.
I
want
to
just
make
sure
I'm,
distinguishing
this
properly
from
the
discussion
that
we've
had
in
recent
months
on
protecting
primary
cultural
and
because
this
could
be
seen
as
looking
against
that
now,
these
lands
are
at
risk
of
nothing.
These
are
lands
that
are
nowhere
near
any
urban
boundary
area.
D
Reality
is
that
if
monster
were
to
ever
expand
monster
is
not
expanding
in
this
direction,
because
it
is
capped
in
by
mineral
aggregate
lands
to
the
east
of
monster,
so
monsters
not
coming
into
these
lands.
This
is
not
a
situation
of
reviewing
an
agricultural
resource
area
designation.
In
order
to
permit
development.
We
don't
actually
allow
developments.
It
might
allow
a
couple
properties
to
get
a
couple
of
severance
a--'s,
but
that's
it
so.
This
is
really
just
about
making
sure
that
we
are
that
our
designations
are
accurate
and
that
our
designations
are
properly
supported
by
ground.
D
True
thing
to
say
what
lands
really
are?
We
can't
properly
protect
primary
cultural
lands
if
we
aren't
properly
identifying
primary
cultural
lands
or,
if
we're
misidentifying
marginal
lands
as
primary
culture
lands.
So
that's
been
the
entire
intent
of
looking
at
this
further
these
these
particulars
pieces
of
land
further
in
2016
and
into
today.
So
that's
what
that's!
What
the
intent
of
this
is
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
I,
don't
want
to
see
anyone
inadvertently,
assuming
that
we're
conflating
this
with
the
bigger
picture
item,
which
is
the
protection
primary
cultural
ends.
B
You
thank
you
very
much,
counsel,
Moffat
and
and
I
hope.
My
card
will
support
your
motion
because
that
motion
give
us
another
fresh,
look
with
the
third
party
and
seems
the
resident
and
that
presenter
they
did
in
support
of
of
that
step.
You're.
Taking
so
first
will
vote
on
the
motion
on
the
motion:
okay,
okay
and
okay,
any
dissent
all
right
on
the
item
itself
carry
as
amended.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
folks
and
now
so
before
we
go,
there's
no
notice
of
motion
and
for
future
inquiries
and
inquiries
from
our
colleague.