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Special Joint Meeting of the Planning Committee and the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee - Monday, January 25, 2021
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
Melody,
yes,
or
have
we
got
quorum
now
you
do
have
corn,
okay,
we'll
be
with
you
in
just
a
sec.
B
A
Everyone
hear
me:
yes,
we're
in
a
strange
and
former
place,
the
former
council
chambers
of
the
city
of
nepean
and
neil,
I
and
I
like
to
operate
out
of
here
when
we're
running
a
joint
committee.
It's
just
a
lot
easier,
so
we're
in
for
a
big
day.
Everyone
on
behalf
of
the
members
of
both
the
planning
committee
and
the
agriculture
and
rural
affairs
committee,
I'd
like
to
say
we're
happy.
You
can
join
us.
A
This
special
joint
meeting
of
our
two
committees
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
consider
recommendations
and
options
related
to
the
urban
expansion.
That
expansion
is
needed
if
we
hope
to
achieve
the
targets
set
out
in
the
growth
management
strategy.
The
council
approved
last
may
targets
that
will
inform
the
new
official
plan
we
will
adopt
by
the
end
of
2021..
A
A
C
A
A
I
don't
see
any,
let
me
start
by
getting
some
logistics
out
of
the
way
most.
If
not
all
of
you
are
well
acquainted
with
zoom
meetings
by
now
you
know
how
to
keep
your
mics
muted
until
you
are
asked
on
called
on
to
speak,
and
you
know
how
to
use
the
raise
hand
button
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
to
signal
that
you
want
to
speak.
If
any
counselors
or
staff
are
joining
by
phone,
you
can
press
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand.
A
Our
committee
coordinator,
my
co-chair
counselor
al
shanteri,
and
I
will
do
our
best
to
watch
for
hands
committee.
Member
will
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
or
comment
in
due
course,
and
the
usual
five-minute
rule
will
apply.
We
will
try
our
best
as
the
day
goes
on,
to
call
first
on
committee
members
in
ward
order.
Before
going
to
any
other
counselors
who
may
have
joined
again
in
ward
order,
we
have
a
considerable
number
of
delegations.
I
think
we
have
48
or
49
register
to
speak,
adding
comment
to
the
many
written
submissions
we
already
have
received.
A
She
will
distribute
all
written
submissions
to
counselors
before
february
10th,
when
city
council
will
discuss
the
growth
management
report
once
we
start
hearing
from
delegations
after
each
speaker,
I
will
announce
the
next
five
on
the
deck
that
will
cue
those
waiting
your
turn
or
watching
on
youtube
that
your
speaking
time
is
approaching
those
signed
up
to
speak.
If
you
have
technical
difficulties
signing
into
the
meeting,
you
can
contact
the
clerk's
office
by
calling.
A
613-580-2424
extension
20113:
this
meeting
is
being
live
streamed
and
you
will
be
archived
to
youtube.
So
let
me
remind
you
that
if
you
enable
your
camera,
while
speaking,
you
will
be
visible
to
meeting
participants
and
on
youtube.
When
I
call
on
a
delegation
to
speak,
please
unmute
your
mic
and
begin.
If
you
have
provided
a
presentation
to
the
committee
coordinator,
please
tell
her
to
advance
the
slides
as
necessary.
A
While
you
speak,
I
remind
you
that
delegations
have
five
minutes
each
and
the
coordinator
will
do
her
best
to
give
you
a
one
minute
warning,
so
you
can
wrap
up
once
your
five
minutes
are
up.
I
will
ask
members
whether
they
have
any
questions
and
when
the
questions
to
the
delegations
are
finished,
the
coordinator
will
place
you
back
in
the
zoom
lobby
on
mute
where
you
can
watch
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
A
If
you
wish.
I
would
also
like
to
point
out
that
this
meeting
has
been
set
up
with
french
and
english
language
interpreters
on
the
bottom
of
your
zoom
window.
You
will
see
an
option
for
interpretation
where
you
can
select
an
audio
channel
to
listen
in
english
or
french.
Now
let
me
take
a
moment
to
outline
the
format
we'll
follow
today.
A
A
We
will
go
directly
to
delegations
that
and
our
public
delegations
will
benefit
by
being
listen
able
to
listen
to
everyone
in
their
turn,
speak
so
only
after
we
have
heard
from
all
the
delegations
will.
We
have
counselors
asked
questions
of
staff
in
the
order
I
outlined
earlier,
then
we
will
consider
any
motions.
Now,
just
we've
eli
and
I've
been
talking,
since
we
have
the
number
of
speakers
that
we
do
have
today.
A
We
didn't
have
that
many
on
friday
and
we
were
thinking
that
maybe
we
would
just
go
very
long
today,
but
we
believe,
because
we're
sure
you're
going
to
have
questions
of
the
delegations
and
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
by
staff
of
45
minutes
to
an
hour
we're
going
to
when
we're
finished
with
delegations.
Today,
we're
going
to
start
tomorrow,
but
not
until
noon,
because
in
the
morning
counselors
are
being
invited
to
an
update
and
to
ask
questions
on
kovit.
We
haven't
had
that
chance
for
quite
a
while.
It's
important.
A
So
that's
the
way
we're
going
to
flow
finish
today.
All
the
delegations
tomorrow
start
at
noon
and
it's
going
to
be
a
long
day,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
long
day
because
it
should
be.
A
Let's
see,
we
have
three
items
today
on
today's
agenda.
All
three
are
important
for
getting
the
new
official
plan
adopted
this
year,
but
our
focus
will
no
doubt
be
on
the
second
growth
management
report.
I
highlight
that
this
is
the
second
such
report,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
clear
about
what
we're
considering
today.
A
The
discussion
is
no
longer
about
if
ottawa
needs
to
expand
the
urban
boundary
it's
now
about
where
exactly
that
expansion
should
happen.
Last
may,
council
approved
a
growth
management
strategy
that
paired
higher
intensification
targets
with
moderate,
moderate
urban
expansion
to
accommodate
our
growing
population.
A
Population
projections
put
us
on
track
to
reach
1.4
million
by
2046.,
so
in
the
next
25
years,
ottawa
will
need
enough
places
for
an
extra
400
000
people
to
live
and
work
to
achieve
that.
The
strategy
council
proof
started
by
upping
intensification
targets
requiring
at
least
51
percent
of
new
dwellings
to
be
bit
sorry
to
be
built
in
existing
built
up
areas.
That
was
a
significant
increase
from
the
existing
45
percent
target,
but
the
strategy
also
called
for
intensification
to
rise
to
60
percent
by
2046.
A
It's
encouraging
to
see
that
we're
already
seeing
good
uptake
in
proposals
for
gentle
infill
even
before
the
new
official
plan
is
adopted
at
our
last
planning
committee
meeting.
For
instance,
we
approved
multiple
applications
to
replace
single-family
homes
with
multiple
you
with
multi-unit
buildings
in
neighborhoods,
from
canada
to
orleans,
but
ramping
up,
intensification
targets
too
much
would
be
unrealistic,
so
some
urban
expansion
was
always
going
to
be
necessary.
A
That's
why
council
directed
staff
to
also
bring
1281
hectares
of
land
for
new
neighborhoods
inside
the
urban
boundary
the
divide
between
suburban
and
rural
ottawa?
We
also
directed
staff
to
add
between
69
and
369
hectares
of
industrial
land.
The
approved
strategy
outlined
evaluation
criteria
so
that
staff
could
go
away
and
determine
which
parcels
of
land
would
make
the
best
additions,
and
that
brings
us
to
today's
report.
A
Staff
have
recommended
1011
hectares
of
land.
They
feel
would
be
best
for
new
neighborhoods,
along
with
140
hectares
of
industrial
lands.
They
have
also
given
us
options
for
how
best
to
identify
another
270
hectares
for
new
neighborhoods
that
might
be
added
in
the
coming
years.
Today's
meeting,
then,
is
really
an
opportunity
to
hear
thoughts
on
the
lands
specified
for
inclusion.
A
A
There
will
be,
of
course,
there
will
of
course
be
opportunity
to
offer
feedback
when
the
new
official
plan
comes
back
before
us
later
this
year,
but
in
the
meantime
the
city
will
also
arrange
consultation
on
the
lands
that
we
recommend
for
inclusion.
I
won't
speak
much
more.
I'm
sure
you're
all
happy
about
that,
as
I
want
to
get
into
the
staff
presentation
as
quickly
as
possible,
staff
can
explain
how
they
scored
the
lens
to
encourage
new
neighborhoods
near
existing
commercial
areas
and
existing
or
planned
transit
hubs.
A
They
will
also
tell
us
about
how
industrial
lands
were
evaluated.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
councillor
and
chair
el
shantieri
has
a
chance
to
speak.
I
know
he
will
highlight
some
of
the
protection
for
agricultural
lands
envisioned
in
today's
report,
including
the
proposal
for
a
gold
belt
to
help
contain
certain
outward
expansion,
I'm
of
two
minds
about
limiting
expansion.
A
In
my
role
as
chair
of
planning
committee,
I
know
ottawa
needs
to
grow
and
develop,
but
restricting
where
growth
happens
will
keep
the
city
affordable
by
limiting
the
need
for
new
infrastructure,
but
I'm
also
a
suburban
councillor,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
residents
in
my
ward
and
other
suburban
wards
continue
to
have
access
to
the
different
housing
types
that
they
want.
I
think
we
found
a
good
balance
with
this
report.
I'm
encouraged.
A
Staff
are
confident
the
lands
between
the
greenbelt
and
the
proposed
gold
belt
will
meet
ottawa's
long-term
growth
needs
and
as
long
as
we
achieve
our
intensification
targets-
and
I
have
no
reason
to
doubt-
we
will
meet
those
targets.
Given
the
trends
we've
seen
at
planning
committee,
the
newly
added
lands
will
also
meet
our
needs
over
the
next
25
years.
Now,
I'd
like
to
invite
chair
al
shantiri,
to
say
a
few
words
well.
D
Very
good,
sorry,
I
look
at
that
from
the
other
side
of
the
urban
boundary
the
land
we
are
considering
for
inclusion.
We
are
selected
specifically
to
avoid
any
negative
impact
on
ottawa's
agricultural
land
that
wasn't
always
guaranteed.
After
all,
agricultural
lands
are
generally
flat
and
well
drained,
making
them
easy
to
develop.
D
Just
by
the
size
alone,
it
is
easy
to
see
the
potential
impact,
our
rural
lands
and
norwegians
food
supply.
Our
rural
area
makes
up
over
80
percent
of
the
entire
city,
which
is
unique
among
other
major
canadian
staff
has
been
carefully
to
protect
one
of
ottawa's,
most
distinct
futures
scoring
potential
expansion
lands
without
considering
those
important
agricultural.
D
The
proposed
gold
belt
will
serve
a
function
similar
to
that
one.
Otherwise,
greenbelt
was
established
for
70
years
ago.
The
green
belt
didn't
quite
limit
growth
as
intended,
but
we
now
have
policies
in
place
to
make
the
gold
belt
more
effective.
In
holding
the
line,
we
have
more
robust
intensification
goal.
We
have
rules
require
minimum
distance.
D
The
gold
belt
would
add
to
those
policies
giving
us
another
tool
to
limit
outward
growth,
at
least
until
the
end
of
the
century.
Agricultural
and
environmentally
sensitive
land
outside
the
urban
boundary
will
be
protected
for
the
foreseeable
future.
I'm
also
encouraged.
The
gold
belt
will
also
allow
ottawa
rural
villages
to
continue
to
flourish.
D
The
gold
belt
will
help
maintain
the
identity
of
the
ottawa
villages
by
preserving
the
surrounding
farmland
and
environmental
resources.
The
gold
belt
will
also
reinforce
separation
between
the
urban
area
and
the
villages.
It
will
help
keep
villages
distinct
and
rural
in
character,
preventing
future
urban
expansion
from
overtaking
or
surrounding
them.
D
At
least
they
have
done
excellent
work,
finding
responsible
alternatives
to
grow
without
without
touching
important
agriculture
and
environmental
land,
whereas,
however
one
cluster
of
land,
I
would
like
to
see
it
remove
from
the
consideration
I
know,
motions
are
are
going
to
be
introduced
after
that
we
hear
from
the
delegation,
but
since
I'm
already
speaking,
I
thought
I
would.
I
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
emotion,
because
it
has
create
some
some
discussion.
D
D
D
This
could
create
further
uncertainly
around
around
their
stats
and
just
keep
in
mind
those
five
countries-
countries
subdivision
country,
lots
of
division.
It
make
up
105
hectares
out
of
175
hectare,
so
you
can
picture
this
is
already
105
of
them
be
like
expanding
in
this
direction,
could
of
land
investment
from
potential.
D
So
the
amount
of
land
being
considered
for
the
new
community
option
will
then
increase
by
170
hectare,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
her
over
to
to
our
staff
for
their
presentation
and
we'll
be
introducing
the
motions
and
direction
to
staff
after
we
hear
from
all
delegations.
So
thank
you,
chair
harvard
and
turn
it
back
to
staff
to
do
the
presentation.
A
I
think
before
that
count
chair,
elsian
terry.
We
do
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
before
the
growth
management
strategy,
so
I
think
we
should
deal
with
those
first.
We
have
the
same
speakers
speaking
to
both
of
them.
I
don't
know
whether
your
presentation
is
prepared
for
that
purpose,
but
we
could
go
with
the
staff
first
because
I
think
they're
going
to
be
touching
on
the
vacant
land
and
that
sort
of
thing.
A
So
let's
go
to
the
staff
and
then
we'll
be
going
to
the
delegations
on
inventory
of
vacant,
industrial
and
business
park,
land
and
the
ottawa
employment
survey
2016..
So
we
will
go
to
staff.
I
think
you're,
all
grouped
together,
mr
willis
you're,
going
to
begin.
G
So
chair
thanks
for
the
opportunity,
I
trust
you
can
hear
me
clearly
speaking
at
this
level,
I'm
going
to
make
very
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
teamwork
represent
the
bulk
of
this
really.
My
goal
right
now
is
to
thank
the
team
from
the
department,
a
very
large
number
of
stuff,
from
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development,
and
also
from
transportation
services
contributed
to
the
technical
work
in
behind
this
report.
G
That's
before
you
today,
in
their
faces,
you'll
know
people
like
alain
miguel's
and
the
team
have
done
really
an
enormous
amount
of
technical
evaluation
royce
mike
and
robin
who
did
a
lot
of
the
coordinating
the
report
pulling
together,
but
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
people
who
you
might
not
see,
prepare
a
report
like
this,
like
our
gis
team,
who
did
an
enormous
amount
of
work
behind
the
scenes
to
that
really
supports
the
technical
analysis.
G
I
also
want
to
thank
the
council
sponsors
group,
because,
throughout
this
entire
process,
they
have
been
very
valuable
to
us
as
a
team
in
terms
of
vetting
some
of
the
ideas
and
some
of
the
challenges
and
helping
us
understand
the
council's
priorities
and
interpreting
the
directions.
Emotions
and
decisions
accounts
previously
made,
and
we
value
the
input
that
they
provided
to
us
for
the
process
and
thank
them
for
that.
G
So,
in
terms
of
the
presentation
you
know,
the
most
important
thing
to
understand
is
council
is
wants
us
to
complete
this
official
plan
within
the
next
year,
because
there's
a
lot
riding
on
it.
There
are.
G
There
are
other
master
plans
and
documents
that
matter
to
council
that
this
plan
needs
to
get
done
in
order
to
support,
and
those
include
things
like
the
transportation
master
plan,
the
infrastructure
master
plan,
the
parks,
master
plan,
the
green
space
master
plan,
the
new
zoning
bylaw,
the
ability
to
even
use
inclusionary
zoning,
the
waste
management
plan,
the
economic
development
strategy
and
probably
others.
This
is
very
much
a
cornerstone
plan
that
all
the
other
plans
are
built
from.
G
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
team
to
give
you
the
presentation
today,
alan's
going
to
give
you
a
recap
of
the
five
big
moves,
the
directions
that
council
had
previously
given
us
on
growth
management,
he's
going
to
explain
the
gold
belt
and
talk
about
the
necessity
to
extend
the
trial
and
site
alteration
by
law.
As
part
of
this
decision,
don's
going
to
go
over
the
specific
recommendations
related
to
residential
land
royce
is
going
to
go
over
the
industrial
logistics
lands
component
and
then
dawn
will
conclude
with
the
next
steps.
I
H
Mr
chairman
and
counselors-
and
I
would
like
to
maybe
just
quickly
start
with
referring
the
two
other
reports
that
chair
harder
just
referred
to
earlier:
the
employment
lands
survey
and
the
industrial
land
strategy.
These
two
reports
are
in
front
of
joint
committees
to
be
received.
H
One
outlines
the
inventory
that
we
conduct
periodically
to
see
how
much
land
we
have
available
in
existing
industrial
parks.
The
other
one
is
the
industrial
lands
strategy
that
supports
the
recommendations
that
are
part
of
the
the
third
item
on
the
agenda
this
morning
and
for
which
we
have
slides
as
part
of
the
presentation.
D
Hello,
sorry
to
bother,
can
you
can
you
get
closer
a
little
bit
to
the
mic?
Please
is
this
better?
Yes,.
H
So
I'm
hoping
that
everybody
can
see
the
presentation
on
the
screen
and
I'm
going
to
be
starting,
perhaps
with,
as
mr
willis
indicated,
just
a
recap
of
some
of
the
fundamentals
that
led
us
to
the
report
and
recommendations
in
front
of
us
today.
So
as
we'll
remember,
we
started
the
official
plan
through
an
ambitious
report
called
ottawa
next
beyond
2036,
which
led
us
to
talk
about
the
foundations
of
the
next
official
plan.
H
H
They
are
representative
of
the
changes
we
see
as
necessary
and
as
desirable
as
we
continue
to
build
the
city
into
the
21st
century
and
they're
here
in
front
of
us.
The
first
big
move
is
that
we
want
most
growth
by
intensification
in
the
next
25
years
connected
to
that.
The
second
big
move-
and
this
is
directly
tied
to
the
very
significant,
significant
investment
that
we've
made
as
a
city
on
rapid
transit-
is
that
we
want
most
trips
to
be
by
sustainable
modes
of
transportation
by
2046..
H
H
H
And
finally,
the
fifth
big
move
relates
to
economic
development
and
basically
talks
about
what
we
want
to
do
as
a
city
for
a
living
beyond
just
the
industries
that
are
present
today.
The
knowledge
industries,
the
tourism
industries,
the
high-tech
industries.
H
What
else
should
we
be
looking
at
in
terms
of
sectors
of
the
economy
that
we
should
be
growing
as
the
city
becomes
a
larger
population
center,
so
some
of
the
components
of
the
growth
management
strategy
that
flowed
from
these
five
big
moves,
which
council
adopted
last
may
involved
a
scenario
that
we
call
the
balance
scenario
which
achieves
a
number
of
different
policy
objectives
that
both
this
council
and
the
provincial
policy
statement
are
asking
municipalities
and,
in
this
case,
ottawa,
to
follow
so.
H
The
first
big
move
basically
means
that
between
now
and
2046,
51
of
new
urban
residents
will
be
housed
in
existing
neighborhoods
through
intensification
and
the
intensification
target
is
dynamic.
We
started
at
40,
which
is
where
we
are
today
in
the
2018
to
2021
period,
and
then
we
increase
it
gradually
until
it
reaches
60
by
the
last
five
years
of
the
plan,
and
as
part
of
that,
we
anticipate
accommodating
the
diversity
of
households.
You
know
bigger
families
in
dwellings
that
have
three
or
more
bedrooms
through
intensifications.
H
We
are
taking
a
very
clear
step
in
making
sure
that
people
have
choices
both
in
existing
neighborhoods
and
in
suburban
communities.
For
the
size
of
house
that
they're
going
to
need,
49
of
the
growth
is
on
green
fields,
and
so
that
means
three
or
four
units
on
existing
greenfield
lands
are
going
to
go
basically
on
lands
that
are
unbuilt
which
are
in
the
urban
boundary
today
and
then
for
the
rest,
we
need
an
urban
expansion
which
is
share.
H
H
So
we
had
criteria
and
I'll
go
over
those
in
a
minute
and
then,
in
addition,
this
reaches
into
the
fifth
big
move.
We
wanted
to
look
for
additional
lands
for
industrial
uses.
H
Council
also
gave
us
a
set
of
additional
instructions
through
motions
back
in
may.
So
when
we
went
out
looking
for
land,
we
were
to
stay
away
from
agriculture
resource
areas.
We
were
to
exclude
lands
that
are
close
to
mineral
aggregate
areas.
These
are
quarries
and
rural
parcels
that
are
outside
of
the
catchment
area
of
transit
that
we've
already
planned,
or
that
we're
building
already
will
need
the
confirmation
of
a
funding,
source
or
mechanism
to
bring
transit
to
them.
H
And
another
very
important
piece
of
this
is
that
for
a
new
community
prior
to
its
approval
prior
to
approving
a
secondary
plan
for
it,
we
need
to
be
able
to
confirm
to
council
how
the
transit
will
be
funded
and
how
it
will
connect
to
the
network,
the
existing
network,
and
we
will
need
as
well
a
ght
emissions
assessment.
H
All
of
this
is
with
the
backdrop
of
making
sure
that
we
don't
jeopardize
our
land
supply.
As
you
know,
the
provincial
policy
statement
is
requiring
cities
now
to
maintain
a
15-year
land
supply
at
all
times.
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
can
happen.
H
If
we
exceed
the
intensification
targets,
we
have
lands
that
we
basically
can
bank
that
will
last
longer,
and
that
means
that
there
will
be
no
risk
to
the
housing
supply.
But
on
the
other
hand,
if
the
intensification
targets
are
not
achieved,
we
do
risk
being
short
and
so
we've
been
proposing
new,
innovative
housing
types
through
intensification.
H
You've
heard
us
talk
about
613
flats.
Those
don't
exist
right
now.
We
have
to
basically
set
them
up
in
terms
of
permissions,
set
them
up
in
terms
of
policy
and
zoning.
So
we
need
some
time
internally
at
the
city
to
fine-tune
our
rules
and
we
need
the
market
to
also
adjust
and
adapt.
So
all
that
fine-tuning
means
that
we
need
a
new
zoning
bylaw
to
unlock
the
potential
of
a
more
wide
range
of
housing
types
in
existing
neighborhoods.
H
We
need
the
infrastructure
master
plan
to
address
any
gaps,
any
pinch
points
and
to
refocus
any
priorities
to
make
sure
that
those
can
happen.
And
then
we
need
to
update
the
transportation
master
plan
and
look
at
transit
funding
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
all
this
intensification
with
the
transit
system
that
will
go
with
it.
H
On
the
industry
side
of
things,
we
want
to
continue
working
with
them
to
develop
these
new
housing
types
to
develop
strategies
for
acquiring
sites
and
lands
and
to
make
sure
that
the
the
momentum
gets
rolling
so
that
the
intensification
target
can
be
met
and
then
the
market
the
market
has
to
adjust.
How
quickly
will
these
shifts
occur?
We're
a
groundbreaking
city
in
canada,
probably
in
north
america,
as
well,
by
tackling
this
as
comprehensively
as
we
are,
and
it
all
requires
us
to
sort
of
jump
in
the
water
and
and
see
how
it
goes.
H
The
market
will
adapt.
How
quickly
will
it
adapt?
What
will
it
gravitate
to
which
which
types
of
housing
will
it
most
deemed
popular,
so
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
goes
and
we'll
have
to
keep
nimble
to
to
be
able
to
adjust
as
we
go
along
now
in
terms
of
the
urban
expansion,
the
directions
come
from
a
variety
of
sources.
First
of
all,
the
provincial
policy
statement
tells
us
a
number
of
things.
H
The
first
is
that
urban
expansion
has
to
be
adjacent
to
or
close
to,
existing
urban
areas
and
connected
to
that
is
that
the
provincial
policy
statement
requires
cost-effective
development
patterns,
so
that
transit
investments
are
optimized.
We
minimize
land
consumption
and
we
minimize
servicing
costs.
We
need
to
avoid
unjustified
or
uneconomical
expansions.
H
It
has
to
be
viable
for
the
city
to
to
operate
new
neighborhoods
and
the
expansion
criteria,
basically
are
how
council
policy
directions
and
the
provincial
policy
statement
find
themselves
in
how
we
scored
all
these
lands.
So
these
are
the
criteria
and
the
scoring
and
analysis
that
we
did
so
council
approved
expansion
criteria
and
they
told
us
to
consider
first
existing
and
planned
infrastructure,
including
higher
order
transits.
So
this
is
all
train
and
transitway
and
servicing
all
the
pipes,
water
wastewater,
storm
water
in
order
to
promote
efficient
land,
efficient
and
walkable
or
convenient
expansion.
H
We
had
to
consider
what
upgrades
might
be
needed
to
arterials
arterial
avenues
and
roads.
We
had
a
penalty
in
relation
to
natural
heritage,
linkages
and
agricultural
related
considerations,
so
these
are
lands
that
are
close
to
ag
resource
area.
They
may
be
rural
but
they're
actively
farmed,
and
then
we
had
considerations
under
the
five
big
moves
to
add
to
the
criteria.
H
So
the
way
we
did
it
is
individual
parcels
were
scored
based
on
these
criteria,
and
then
we
went
one
step
further
in
the
analysis
and
we
scored
on
the
basis
of
clusters,
so
sometimes
there's
a
score
that
can
be
given
to
a
piece
of
land.
But
if
that
piece
of
land
is
part
of
a
larger
cluster,
and
it
makes
sense
to
consider
that
cluster
as
a
chunk
or
as
a
whole,
we
did
that
as
well.
H
And
then
we
did
an
extensive
review
and
analysis
with
colleagues
from
multiple
departments,
including
planning
policy,
natural
systems
and
rural
affairs,
infrastructure,
transportation,
transportation
policy,
climate
change
and
resiliency,
as
well
as
external
engineering,
consultants,
property
owners
or
representatives
that
sent
us
reports
with
information
about
their
land,
be
it
on
on
the
type
of
soil,
the
type
of
natural
environment
conditions
we
we
received
all
those
and
we
used
the
information
as
part
of
the
analysis.
H
The
data
that
we
used
includes
the
transportation
master
plan
and
as
well
any
approved
environmental
assessments.
So
when
you
think
of
stage
3
lrt
that
would
that
would
be
one
of
them
any
approved
community
design
plans
and
secondary
plans.
We
used
the
employment
survey
and
we
supplemented
it
by
a
review
for
newer
commercial
clusters
that
came
up
after
that
survey.
H
On
active
farm
operations.
We
used
environmental
data,
including
provincially,
significant
wetlands,
unevaluated,
wind
lands,
land
cover
forest
cover,
water
courses,
significant
valley,
lands
and
woodlands,
natural
cores
and
linkages
the
species
at
risk,
information,
sub-watershed
studies
and
the
ncc's
greenbelt
master
plan.
We
had
gis
data
on
response
time
from
fire
services
and,
as
I
said,
we
had
submissions
from
stakeholders
and
we
vetted
our
conclusions
against
any
additional
information
that
stakeholders
and
land
land
owners
provided
on
behalf
of
their
lands.
H
We
also
used
master
servicing
studies
and
environmental
management
plans
from
previous
new
neighborhoods
that
were
adjacent
to
the
these
new
areas.
We
did
modeling
on
the
water
distribution
system
and
on
the
wastewater
collection
system.
There
were
class
d,
cost
estimates
done,
grading
plans,
geotechnical
assessments
for
cluster
areas
and
golder
associates
consultant,
prepared,
high
level,
grading
and
drainage
plans
for
servicing
clusters
advised
on
the
extent
of
servicing
risk
factors,
including
bedrock
and
sensitive
soils
and
advised
on
private
servicing
considerations.
H
So
now
we
come
to
the
recommendations,
so
the
first
recommendation
in
front
of
joint
committees,
madam
and
mr
chair,
are
that
we
establish
a
gold
belt
as
a
new
growth
management
concept
in
the
new
official
plan.
Now
I
want
to
stop
on
this
one
and
say
a
few
things
about
this
gold
belt.
It's
an
idea
that
obviously
appeared
with
these
recommendations
and
the
goal
of
it
is
to
capture
lands
that
are
designated
in
the
official
plan
as
agriculture
resource
lands
that
have
aggregate
resource
overlays
and
are
composed
of
natural
areas.
H
So
this
idea
basically
starts
with
again
the
analysis
of
the
pps.
Is
it
consistent
with
the
pps
it
is?
It
avoids
the
use
of
agricultural
lands
when
there
are
viable
alternatives
to
grow
the
city.
Now
the
gold
belt
is
basically
a
concept.
It
includes
lands
that
are
already
protected
by
the
pps
and
by
existing
official
planned
designations,
but
it's
also
a
growth
management
tool
that
would
provide
direction
to
future
councils
and
landowners
as
to
where
to
look
and
where
not,
to
look
for
any
outward
growth
for
the
city
until
the
end
of
this
century.
H
The
gold
belt
at
the
same
time,
would
allow
the
rural
villages
in
the
rural
area
to
continue
to
flourish.
There
could
still
be
village
expansion,
but
what
this
would
do
is
that
it
would
maintain
the
villages
as
completely
distinct.
They
would
not
meld
into
the
suburbs,
they
would
not
be
swallowed
up
by
the
city,
so
it
would
maintain
the
identity
of
the
villages.
H
The
gold
belt,
therefore,
would
reinforce
the
separation
between
the
villages
in
the
rural
area
and
the
suburbs,
and,
as
as
a
contrast
to
the
green
belt
that
was
created
by
the
federal
government
after
the
1950s.
This
is
not
a
situation
where
the
city
would
go
out
and
buy
any
land
or
expropriate
any
land.
H
And
in
the
following
map,
we've
included
the
designations
that
exist
in
the
official
plan
today,
and
you
can
see
how
those
designations,
which
are
mineral
aggregate
areas,
agricultural
resource
areas,
core
natural
heritage
areas
and
core
natural
linkage
areas
are
basically
what
we're
talking
about
here.
We're
protecting
nature,
we're
protecting
farmland
and
we're
protecting
future
mineral
resources
for
the
city.
H
The
second
recommendation
is
to
amend
the
tree
protection
bylaw
and
the
site
alteration
bylaw,
so
that
trees
and
natural
features
are
immediately
protected
on
any
lands
that
are
being
evaluated
in
documents
two
or
three,
and
this
would
apply
until
the
new
official
plan
is
approved.
This
basically
is
putting
limits
appropriate
limits
on
the
protections
that
we
need
to
have
for
the
lands
that
are
considered
candidates
in
accordance
with
what
the
city
usually
does.
F
Thank
you
so,
based
on
the
criteria,
the
analysis
and
the
scoring
that
ellen
just
covered
in
his
slides,
I
will
be
focusing
in
on
the
results
of
that
analysis
and
the
residential
lands
that
are
recommended
for
inclusion
in
the
urban
boundary
and
also
the
residential
lands.
That
staff
would
submit
require
further
analysis
in
order
to
be
added
and
meet
our
long-term
land
supply
requirements.
F
So,
first
I'll
summarize,
the
evaluation
results
for
the
category.
One
lands
also
known
as
pass
one
and
two.
These
are
lands
that
have
scored,
scored
well
with
strong
adherence
to
the
growth
management
strategy
directions
and
the
five
big
moves.
So
a
total
of
1011
hectares
are
recommended
for
inclusion
in
the
urban
boundary
under
this
category
and
on
on
the
map
before
you.
Those
would
be
the
lands
in
the
lighter.
J
F
Yes,
the
lighter
the
light,
the
light,
yellow,
color
yeah
category,
one
I'll,
also
as
we
travel
across
the
city.
F
Looking
at
these
clusters,
we'll
highlight
any
category
two
lands
which
did
not
achieve
a
passing
score,
but
do
have
partial
adherence
to
the
the
strategy
in
the
five
big
moves
and
those
lands
are
shown
on
this
map
in
the
the
blue,
green
color,
labeled
category
two
has
and
then
finally
I'll
cover
category
3
lands
or
concentrated
lands,
sometimes
referred
to
as
new
community
areas
and
staff
have
identified
two
different
options
with
respect
to
analyzing
those
concentrated
land
options
to
make
up
the
difference
in
land
that
we
require.
F
The
commentary
on
existing
uses
proximity
to
jobs,
retail
and
existing
facilities,
as
you
can
imagine,
there's
a
lot
of
technical
information
that
that
goes
into
the
analysis.
As
we've
heard
so
I
I
will
not
delve
too
deeply
into
either
the
servicing
or
transportation
factors
they're
laid
out
in
detail
in
documents
two
and
three
to
the
report.
F
Just
so
you're
aware
the
transportation
evaluation
and
implications
focus
on
you
know,
considerations
related
to
transit,
including
that
proximity
to
the
1.9
kilometer
radial
transit
catchment
area,
which
represents
two
and
a
half
kilometer
kilometers
by
road.
So
that's
that
distance
from
existing
or
planned
rapid
transit
stations.
F
The
transportation
analysis
also
includes
road
capacity
and
points
in
terms
of
modal
share
and
vehicle
trip
distances
within
the
community.
The
servicing
analysis,
as
I
mentioned,
is,
is
quite
detailed
and
in
depth
in
depth
and
focuses
on
sanitary,
storm
and
water
water
service
there's
also
considerations
in
terms
of
topographic
and
geotechnical
conditions.
Soils
that
would
affect
that
site
servicing.
F
So,
as
I
noted
there's
a
lot
of
detail
for
all
of
these
lands,
so
staff
will
be
available
to
respond
to
any
more
detailed
questions
from
a
committee
following
public
delegations.
Next
slide,
please
so
back
to
the
recommendations.
Recommendation
three
is
for
approval
of
those
category.
One
lands
that
I
just
mentioned,
they're
identified
in
detail
in
appendix
a
these,
represent
the
land
clusters
of
just
over
a
thousand
hectares
and
they
best
meet
the
urban
expansion
criteria
and
conformity
to
the
five
big
moves.
F
So
the
direction
here
would
be
to
add
these
lands
into
the
the
the
legal
or
formal
technical
circulation
that
we're
required
to
do
for
the
draft
official
plan.
So
that
would
be
following
council's
approval.
They
would
be
added
into
the
draft
official
plan.
Recommendation.
F
4
speaks
to
the
gating
policies,
largely
around
mobility
and
infrastructure
upgrades
that
would
be
required
to
support
the
category
one
lens
and
that
would
be
staff
would
come
back
in
terms
of
the
draft
op
and
fine
tune
and
layout
those
precondition
preconditions
before
development
can
take
place
for
these
lands.
We
refer
to
them
as
gating
policies.
F
I
know
there's
been
some
questions
about.
You
know
what
is
gating.
It
really
is
those
prerequisites
or
preconditions
that
are
required
to
be
satisfied
before
development
can
take
place
next
slide,
please,
okay,
so
category
category
one
lands
these.
These
are
the
lands
that
form
part
of
recommendation,
three
that
one
thousand
and
eleven
hectares
the
yellow
lands
referred
to
as
pass
one,
have
a
full
passing
score
from
an
infrastructure
and
transportation
perspective
and
and
meet
the
council
approved
criteria.
F
The
green
lands
may
be
just
short
of
that
pass
score,
but
if
they're
clustered
with
the
larger
lands
they
do
pass
and
they
do
meet
the
intent
of
the
the
five
big
moves
as
an
example
in
terms
of
the
transportation
radius,
if
the
lands
are
outside
of
the
1.9
kilometer
radius,
but
still
within
the
2.5
kilometer,
you
know
travel
by
road
from
a
transit
station,
they'd
show
up
as
green,
so
there's
pockets
in
riverside
south
bar
haven
in
stittsville
and
orleans.
F
So
there's
seven
clusters,
as
you
see
across
the
city,
moving
from
east
to
west
there's
orleans
north
cluster
in
orleans,
south,
very
small
cluster
in
leitrim,
clustering,
riverside,
south
barrhaven
south
over
to
stittsfield.
There's
two
clusters
on
the
north
and
south
ends
of
stittsville
and
then
what
we're
referring
to
is
as
the
south
merch
cluster,
which
is
just
beyond
canada
north.
F
So
for,
as
I
mentioned,
for
convenience
and
timing
reasons
in
terms
of
this
presentation.
I'll
comment
on
each
of
those
clusters
as
a
whole.
We'll
move
from
east
to
west
I'll
also
touch
briefly
on
any
abutting
category
two
lands
and
would
note
that
category
two
lands
are
those
lands
that
aren't
recommended
that
require
further
analysis,
but
are
one
of
the
options
on
the
table
in
terms
of
meeting
up
the
missing
land,
the
270
hectares
that
we
need
to
get
to
the
1281
target.
F
And
then
I'll
conclude,
as
I
mentioned,
with
a
brief
overview
of
the
concentrated
or
new
community
options,
next
slide,
we'll
start
in
in
orleans
north.
Here
we
have
just
under
42
hectares
identified,
it's
our
second
smallest
cluster
and
it's
located
northeast
of
the
orleans
urban
area
and
adjacent
to
the
cardinal
creek
community.
The
southern.
F
F
Urban
lands
that
were
added
in
the
previous
urban
boundary
expansion,
so
the
lands
score
well
from
a
servicing
perspective
and
could
largely
be
serviced
by
existing
or
planned
infrastructure
from
the
cardinal
creek
community
in
terms
of
transportation,
they're,
primarily
adjacent
to
the
1.9
kilometer
catchment
area,
from
the
trim,
road,
o
train
station
and
park,
and
ride
they're,
also
within
the
1.9
kilometer
capture
area
of
the
conceptual
future
rapid
transit
corridor
that
you
see
in
that
yellow
color
on
on
the
map
in
front
of
you.
F
F
F
The
clusters
are
in
close
proximity
to
existing
facilities
and
services,
including
retail,
grocery
stores,
recreational
facilities,
schools
parks
and
employment.
There's
they
can
be
accessed
through
reasonable
road
connections
and
active
transportation
through
the
the
hydro
corridor,
and
so
on.
So
again
the
landscape
fairly.
Well
from
a
servicing
perspective,
they
can
be
serviced
efficiently
with
water
main
and
sanitary
sewer,
extensions
and
upgrades
to
the
existing
10th
line
pumping
station
from
a
transportation
perspective,
the
lands
are
within
or
adjacent
to
the
1.9
kilometer
radial
catchment
area
of
the
future
cumberland
transitway
transit
stations.
F
They
also
have
proximity
to
the
existing
millennium
park
and
ride
lot.
So
the
parcels
with
clusters
that
have
frontage
on
trim
road
or
they
will
have
frontage
on
trim
road
with
and
some
frontage
on
wall
road.
These
roads
would
likely
require
upgrading
to
an
urban
standard
to
support
that
future
growth.
F
Next
slide
move
to
litrum.
This
is
our
smallest
cluster.
It's
a
it's!
A
fairly
minor
rounding
out
of
existing
neighborhoods
in
in
the
litrium
community.
The
lands
available
for
expansion
in
lycham
are
constrained
due
to
quarry
operations
in
the
vicinity.
F
These
clusters
are
in
proximity
to
existing
retail
and
commercial,
as
well
as
other
existing
and
planned
amenities
and
services
in
terms
of
servicing.
They
can
be
serviced
reasonable
at
a
reasonable
cost
based
on
existing
facilities.
F
The,
as
you
see,
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
category
two
lands
or
the
lands
that
are
shown
in
gray
around
the
area.
So
these
la
these
are
lands
that
would
require
much
more
significant
infrastructure
upgrades
in
order
to
be
to
be
serviced
and
that's
why
they
are
not
recommended
in
the
category
one
pool
as
it
were.
F
I
will
note
that
much
of
these
lands
are
also
identified,
especially
east
of
litrum,
as
lands
that
could
be
considered
as
part
of
a
much
larger
new
community
option
where
the
servicing
would
be
more
cost
effective.
Next
slide,
please
so
riverside
south.
This
is
just
over
309
hectares.
In
total.
This
is
our
largest
cluster.
F
The
clusters,
as
you
can
see,
are
located
southeast
of
the
riverside
south
existing
urban
area.
It's
north
of
the
village
of
greeley,
it's
beyond
the
that
one
kilometer
exclusion
area
that
council
directed
staff
to
to
protect,
and
it's
immediately
south
of
the
stage
stage
two
boseville
station
and
park
and
ride.
F
F
So
that's
that's
why
those
lands
were
not
considered.
There's
also
some
some
clusters
that
are
affected
by
an
existing
landfill,
that
that
would
exclude
them
from
consideration
at
this
time
as
well.
F
So
the
cluster
is
in
close
proximity
to
the
planned
riverside
south
town
center.
So
this
this
town
center
will
have
facilities,
including
you
know,
city
library,
recreation,
complex
and
other
commercial
uses,
and
it's
also
approximate
to
the
ottawa
international
airport
and
that
special
special
study
policy
area.
That's
proposed
for
that
area
and
the
new
official
plan.
F
Next
slide,
please
moving
to
to
bar
haven.
We
have
a
total
of
just
over
108
hectares
recommended
here,
so
these
lands
are
located
at
the
the
southern
limits
of
bar
haven,
east
of
highway
416
west
of
prince
of
wales
and
north
of
barnsdale
road.
F
The
proposed
urban
expansion
clusters
would
round
out
the
remaining
rural
parcels
on
either
side
of
the
existing
urban
urban
area
terminating
at
burnsdale
road.
This
would
create
a
very
excuse
me,
a
very
clear
line
between
the
urban
area
north
of
burnsdale
and
the
agricultural
resource
area
to
the
south.
F
Also
of
note,
the
proposed
urban
industrial
land
is
shown
in
purple
on
the
slide
and
that's
a
future.
Traditional
industrial
freight
and
storage
facility
that
is
proposed
to
be
added
to
the
urban
boundary
at
the
future.
Highway
interchange
of
burnsdale
and
the
highway
416
and
royce
will
speak
more
about
that.
F
You
can
see,
there's
there's
some
a
small
pocket
of
land
shown
in
gray
on
the
east
side
of
prince
of
wales,
but
they
have
not
been
included
into
terms
of
the
recommended
totals
because
they,
due
to
topography,
they
cannot
be
serviced
efficiently
at
a
reasonable
cost.
For
such
a
small
area.
F
Next
slide,
please
we're
moving
on
to
the
stittsville
community.
We
have
a
total
of
just
over
75
hectares
recommended
for
inclusion
in
this
area,
so
there's
a
cluster
to
the
northwest
of
existing
stittsville
north
of
hazelden,
road
and
southeast
of
highway
highways,
417
and
7..
There's
a
hydro
corridor
which
includes
a
pathway
system
that
goes
through
this
area.
F
The
ag
reed
industrial
area
is
all
you'll
see
that
in
purple
on
the
slide,
it's
also
one
of
the
areas
recommended
to
be
included
under
our
industrial
land
supply.
That
royce
will
cover
further.
F
The
the
cluster
to
the
north
is
outside
of
the
the
buffer
for
the
aggregate
area.
F
Just
note
that
this
this
cluster
is
close
to
existing
schools,
parks,
employment
and
retail,
including
grocery
stores
on
hazel
dean,
road
and
for
the
lands
on
the
south
as
well.
They
bought
previous
expansion
lands
so
north
of
north
of
fluellen,
road
and
west
of
shea
road.
Again,
there's
a
hydro
corridor
that
goes
through
here.
F
Existing
and
planned
roads
can
service
this
area
quite
reasonably
and
effectively
and
they're.
Also
within
the
proximity
of
the
transit
priority,
isolated
measures,
criteria
that
were
approved
by
council
in
terms
of
the
category
2
lands.
There
are
lands
shown
to
the
west
of
stittsville
that
were
evaluated.
F
They
did
not
achieve
a
passing
score
due
to
increased
complexity
in
terms
of
servicing
and
wetland
impacts,
but
they
are
in
that
category.
Two
candidate
pool
I'd
also
note
that
there's
a
small
parcel
at
the
corner
of
flewellen
and
shea
road
that
was
excluded
and
that
relates
to
an
ongoing
legal
action
in
terms
of
a
site,
alteration,
violation.
F
This
is
just
over
75
hectares
shown
here,
so
these
lands
are
located
in
south
merch,
east
of
old
second
line
road
and
bounded
by
march
road.
F
I
I
would
just
like
to
note
that
there
was
a
an
error
in
them
in
the
equivalent
map
in
her
report
that
mislabeled,
a
march
valley,
road,
merch
valley,
road,
actually
shown
where
the
the
rail
corridor
is
it's
it's
it's
actually
a
little
further
to
the
east,
so
I
just
want
to
apologize
for
that
that
air.
I
know
that
caused
a
bit
of
confusion
for
a
couple
of
folks,
so
east
of
that
corridor.
F
On
march
valley,
driver
lands
constrained
from
development
by
the
connet
range
and
training
facility
operated
by
dnt
dnd.
So
those
lands
were
not,
they
were
scored,
but
they
did
not.
They
were
not
recommended
for
incompatibility
reasons,
and
that
was
the
subject
of
a
previous
omb
hearing
as
well
on
opa
76.
So
staff
are
again
not
recommending
those
lands
for
inclusion,
so
in
in
terms
of
the
the
broader
cluster,
there
are
five
existing
country
lot
subdivisions
you
know
interspersed
throughout
this
area.
F
I
would
note
that
those
lands
are
not
part
of
the
the
land
calculation,
but
they
are
intermingled
within
the
within
the
the
area
you
see
on
yellow
on
this
slide,
so
the
cluster
would
be
facilitate.
It
would
be
connected
to
the
the
existing
canada.
F
North
expansion
previously
proved
there's
a
there's,
a
fairly
straightforward
way
of
connecting
these
lands
and
integrating
them
they're
also
close
to
existing
facilities
such
as
retail
recreational
facilities,
schools
and,
of
course,
the
much
larger
employment
area
in
canada
north,
which
is
our
largest
non-governmental
cluster
of
jobs
in
ottawa.
F
In
terms
of
servicing
the
lands,
the
lands
are
relatively
straightforward
to
service.
Can
I
go
to
the
next
slide?
Andy
and
just
okay,
no
go
back
one.
Please
thank
you
and
again
they're
within
the
the
1.9
kilometer
catchment
area
of
the
merch
road,
transitway
transit
stations
and
the
plan
to
park
and
ride
at
the
terminus
of
that.
That
transitway
would
note
that
march
road
provides
the
only
direct
arterial
road
access
to
this
area
from
the
417,
so
the
transportation
network
is
limited
in
that
respect
next
slide.
F
So,
as
you
can
see
doing
the
math
we,
we
are
270
hectares
short
based
on
recommendation
three.
So
what
what
staff
are
recommending
in
this
case
is
that
we
would
come
back
to
canadian
council
to
make
further
recommendations
on
that
missing
land
as
as
outlined
in
recommendation
five.
We
that
would
be
no
later
than
q4
2026
and
that
would
allow
you
know
the
time
for
that
further
investigation.
F
F
F
Slide
so
option,
one,
as
I
mentioned,
is
the
distributed
option,
we're
referring
to
as
the
distributed
option,
so
it
would
analyze
the
category
two
lands
and
those
are
identified
in
appendix
b
in
the
report
and
described
in
document
2..
F
So
these
represent
parcels
that
are
largely
contiguous
to
the
existing
urban
urban
boundary
or
not
far
from
it
and
or
lands
that
are
being
recommended
for
inclusion
under
category
1.
and
again,
we
would
be
coming
back
with
those
necessary
gating
policies
or
preconditions
to
development
touching
on
transportation
and
infrastructure
that
are
required
to
be
in
place
before
that
development
can
proceed
next
slide
for
the
second
option.
Sorry,
this
this
again
shows
the
the
location
of
the
category
two
lands
around
the
city
that
we've
we've
seen
next
slide.
F
So
this
is
one
of
the
options
available
and
that
would
be
to
direct
staff
to
look
at
all
category
lands,
there's
three
options
that
I'll
detail
and
that
staff
would
come
back
and
outline
the
financial
considerations,
planning
the
infrastructure
requirements,
more
information
on
transit
and
transportation.
F
Further
further
review
of
the
soils,
the
geotechnical
conditions,
some
of
the
lands
would
require
further
environmental
analysis,
including
you
know,
wetland
evaluations
of
watershed
studies
and
the
like,
and
these
considerations
are
detailed
at
some
length
in
appendix
f
in
the
report
and
that
that
would
give
you
a
pretty
good
flavor
of
those
additional
studies
that
would
be
looked
at
and
that
they
would
vary
somewhat
depending
on
the
land
selected.
But
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
comprehensive
list.
Next
slide.
F
So
the
third
option,
in
terms
of
the
missing
270
actors,
is
to
direct
staff
to
focus
on
a
single
option
or
a
single
concentrated
option.
So
again
it
would
be
analyzing
those
one
of
those
category
three
lands
with
the
same
considerations.
I
just
highlighted
next
slide.
F
So
here
are
the
the
three
options
so
from
starting
in
the
west.
This
this
would
be
further
further
north
further
northwest
of
the
category
one
lands
that
are
recommended
in
in
south
march,
so
there's
a
larger
cluster
cluster
north
of
march
road
and
two
smaller
clusters
on
the
other.
On
the
other
side
of
second
line,
road
second
option
would
be
further
south
and
southwest
of
the
category.
One
lands
recommended
in
riverside
south
and
you
can
see
the
category
one
lands
dashed
in
and
the
further
lands
shown
south
of
those
lands.
F
So
that
would
be
all
the
way
out
to
to
mitch
owens
drive
and
then
the
third
option
is
a
is
a
much
larger
option:
east
of
litro
west
of
carlsbad
springs,
and
that
will
come
to
each
of
those
three
options.
Now
next
slide.
F
So
again,
south
march,
you
see
the
larger
cluster
north
of
march
road
and
two
smaller
parcels
west
of
second
line
road.
Those
were
not
recommended
under
the
past
one
or
yellow
lands
referring
to
the
two
two
pockets
on
the
west
side
of
second
line
road
because
of
quite
high
additional
servicing
costs.
F
However,
if
you
were
to
add
the
the
larger
parcel
north
of
mex
road,
there
would
be
new
servicing
required
in
second
line
road
that
would
make
those
parcels
more
efficient.
So
that's
that
is
the
the.
F
F
So,
in
terms
of
just
a
brief
overview
of
this
area
again,
there
are,
you
know,
high
servicing
costs
to
to
bring
this
bring
these
lands
on
stream.
In
general,
this
the
smaller
clusters
are
actually
within
the
transit
capture
area.
F
F
Again
they
they
do
have.
They
do
benefit
somewhat
from
proximity
to
employment
areas.
The
planned
trends
that
I
just
mentioned,
and
retail
and
recreational
facilities.
F
So
moving
to
riverside
south
there's
about
290
hectares
here
in
terms
of
gross
area,
so
this
is,
as
I
mentioned,
located
southeast
of
that
riverside
south
urban
area
and
the
category
one
lands
that
are
being
recommended
for
inclusion
they're,
just
beyond
the
one
kilometer
exclusion
area
from
the
village
of
greeley.
F
There
are
some
constraints
in
these
lands
in
terms
of
limestone
resource
areas
and
and
other
considerations
in
terms
of
a
former
landfill
that
would
exclude,
exclude
consideration
of
a
larger
parcel
in
this
area.
F
The
excuse
me
in
terms
of
transit
you're,
getting
further
further
away
from
the
transit
catchment
area
of
that
stage.
Two
transit
line,
so
that
that
would
create
some
challenges
in
terms
of
connecting
that
to
the
broader
network
would
also
require
further
rural
road
conversions
to
an
urban
standard.
F
Next
slide,
please,
this
is
the
the
much
larger
area
I
referred
to
as
one
of
the
options
for
canadian
council
that
staff
are
seeking
direction
on
so
overall
we're
talking
a
an
area
of
approximately
4
500
hectares
here.
So
just
in
terms
of
explaining
the
different
colors
on
the
slide.
Moving
from
existing
litrum,
there
was
a
fairly
large
submission.
We've
referred
to
as
the
hawthorne
lands
that
so
that
would
be
between
hawthorne
roads
and
existing
leitrim
and
then
further
to
the
east.
F
There
was
a
submission
referred
to
as
the
t
wind
land
submission,
and
that
would
be
from
ramseyville
road
to
the
west,
litrum
road
and
highway
417
as
the
northern
boundaries
out
to
boundary
road,
and
then
you
see
it,
it
falls
along
mitch,
owens
road
jogging
over
to
thunder
road
and
so
on,
and
that's
that
that
would
avoid
those
agricultural
resource
lands
that
that
you
see
there.
F
So
again,
that's
a
very
large
area.
We
have
not
applied
any
exclusions
or
or
created
an
estimate.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
is
developable.
Unlike
the
category
one
lens,
we
know
there's
there's
a
lot
of
environmental
lands,
including
unevaluated
wetlands
in
this
area
that
would
have
to
be
looked
back
closer
but,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
considerable
amount
of
potential
in
this
area
in
terms
of
future
development.
F
So
again
it's
it's.
Currently,
the
lands
are
mainly
forested.
A
lot
of
natural
areas,
some
fields,
pastures,
a
single
single-family
type
dwellings
along
the
existing
roads
and
a
couple
of
golf
courses
as
well
along
with
some
rural
employment
and
industrial
uses,
obviously
in
in
terms
of
these
lands,
are,
are
further
away
from
existing
or
planned
transit.
So
they
would
require
a
new
planned
transit
strategy
and
likewise
in
terms
of
servicing
they're
more
distant
from
existing
servicing.
F
So
I
think
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
As
I
mentioned,
we
can,
we
can
take.
You
know
detailed
questions
on
any
of
these
areas
and
we
have
a
large
group
of
staff,
transportation,
infrastructure,
natural
environment
on
on
standby.
That
can
support
the
team
in
terms
of
any
of
those
details
so
happy
to
come
back
to
that
at
the
appropriate
time.
F
Just
before
I
turn
it
turn
it
over
to
to
royce.
I
just
wanted
to
next
slide.
Please
andy,
just
in
terms
of
so
we're
missing,
270
hectares,
as
I've
noted
just
in
terms
of
examples
of
what
that
what
that
could
look
like
so
here's
what
250
hectares
would
look
like
in
terms
of
some
existing
areas
that
you'd
be
familiar
with.
So
here
you
have
black
for
blackburn
hamlet,
fairly.
You
know
self-contained.
F
You
know
community
next
slide
andy
the
residential
portion
of
bell's
corners,
similar
similar
size
for
comparative
purposes.
Next,
here
you
see
basically
the
the
start
of
canada.
F
In
terms
of
that
that
same
sort
of
a
start
or
seeds,
of
a
new
community
that
has,
since
you
know,
grown
and-
and
we
have
other
examples-
you
know
bar
haven,
center,
town
and
others.
We
can
show
you
but
just
wanted
to
give
that
sort
of
a
point
of
reference
in
terms
of
what
that
would
look
like
next
slide.
F
So
before
I
turn
it
over
to
to
royce
in
terms
of
the
industrial
and
logistics,
please
piece:
I
just
want
to
highlight
recommendation
six
and
that's
that's
basically,
as
elen
covered
in
in
his
slides,
you
know
basically
to
monitor
that
growth
management
strategy,
how
we're
doing
on
the
intensification?
F
What
are
what
is
our
uptake
on
green
greenfield
lands
to
keep
track
of
that
now
we
do
track
that
on
an
annual
basis,
and
that's
as
as
land
noted,
we
have
a
you
know
a
15-year
land
supply
requirement.
We
always
have
to
to
have
in
place
and
be
on
top
of,
but
this
recommendation
would
provide
that
a
commitment
I
guess
for
a
formal
touch
point
no
later
than
q4
of
2026
to
report
back.
F
Obviously,
if
there
were
issues
before
or
after
that
point,
we
would
also
be
be
in
touch
with
with
committee
and
council
and,
as
I
noted,
we
do
report
on
the
those
the
residential
land
supply
and
on
an
annual
basis,
so
next
slide
we'll
turn
it
over
to
royce.
For
this
part
of
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
L
Thanks
dawn,
so
the
industrial
and
logistics
land
strategy
is
a
land
budget
for
the
projected
industrial
related
jobs
from
the
employment
productions.
L
The
office
and
other
commercial
that's
intended
through.
The
employment
projections
would
mostly
locate
and
other
designations
for
traditional
industrial
freight
and
storage
or
tiff's.
For
short,
is
the
primary
designation
of
industrial
related
lands
in
the
new
official
plan,
as
name
implies,
these
business
parks
are
characterized
by
manufacturing.
L
Due
to
the
limitations
of
these
private
systems,
these
areas
tend
to
be
occupied
by
outdoor
storage
and
smaller
facilities,
while
some
industrial
related
jobs
can
do
locate
in
these
rural
areas.
Most
are
anticipated
to
locate
within
the
urban
area
due
to
lack
of
appropriate
water
and
waste
water
services.
L
L
So
in
terms
of
recommendation,
eight,
the
estimated
demand
for
vacant
industrial
lands
is
in
the
range
of
approximately
360
to
510
net.
The
range
is
based
on
an
estimated
job
densities
within
industrial
areas.
The
lower
end
of
360
hectares
represents
higher
job
densities,
and
the
upper
end
of
510
hectares
represents
lower
job
densities.
L
The
estimated
industrial
land
supply
for
the
start
of
the
projections
in
july
2018
was
about
380
net
hectares
staff
is
recommending
planning
for
the
upper
range
of
510
hectares
for
the
estimated
industrial
land
need
based
on
lower
densities
from
warehouse
and
distribution
format.
Type
buildings
that
are
anticipated
in
the
future
staff
is
recommending
adding
approximately
140
net
hectares
of
new
industrial
freight
and
storage
areas
to
complement
the
existing
380
to
get
to
towards
the
510
hectares
in
the
upper
range.
L
J
L
So,
in
terms
of
the
new
traditional
industrial
freight
and
storage
areas,
approximately
100
net
hectares
will
be
located
at
carp
road
on
the
south
side
of
highway
417
shown
in
purple
on
the
west
side
of
this
map
on
the
west
side
of
carp.
Road
is
an
existing
rural
business
park
with
approximately
55
hectares
of
vacant
lands
on
the
east
side
of
carp.
Road
is
approximately
45
net
hectares
of
vacant
lands.
L
L
L
L
L
F
Thank
you
royce
so
in
terms
of
just
wrap
up
before
you
recommendation
11.,
so
that
basically
gives
the
authority
for
staff
to
schedule
the
public
meetings
that
are
required
under
the
planning
act,
and
these
are
to
consider
the
the
comprehensive
op
so
I'll
come
to
the
the
dates
of
those
meetings
in
the
next
slide.
F
The
the
second
thing
recommendation
11
does
is
again
establishes
the
future
receipt
of
the
report
and
recommendations
by
council
with
respect
to
a
draft
decision
that
will
be
issued
by
the
minister
of
municipal
affairs
with
respect
to
the
comprehensive
op
and
I'll
touch
on
that
at
the
on
the
next
slide,
with
the
dates
next
slide.
Please.
F
So,
after
the
conclusion
of
these
meetings,
the
recommendations
and
any
directions
will
be
forwarded
to
council
council
is
scheduled
to
meet
on
february
10th,
any
recommended
urban
lands
will
be
included
in
the
required
planning
act,
technical
circulation.
F
The
draft
official
plan
is
currently
scheduled
to
be
presented
to
joint
committee
during
the
week
of
june
21st
and
then
any
further
directions
and
changes
will
be
made
and
it's
scheduled
to
go
to
council
the
week
of
september
22nd
with
potentially
two
days
set
aside
there
again,
any
any
directions
or
changes
from
council
will
be
incorporated
and
then
a
bylaw
will
need
to
be
passed
by
council,
adopting
the
previous
council
direction
and
we're
targeting
october
27th.
F
For
that,
after
that,
we
get
the
whole
package
off
to
the
ministry
of
municipal
affairs
and
housing
and
they
have
a
120
day
review
period,
although
we
have
been
working
with
them
closely
throughout
the
process
and
are
hopeful
that
that
that
might
be
condensed
somewhat,
but
we're
we're
anticipating
ministerial
approval
of
the
final
official
plan
close
to
a
year
from
now
february.
2022
next
slide.
F
So
in
terms
of
the
adopted
growth
management
strategy,
we
believe
that
it
makes
efficient
use
of
our
existing
urban
areas
and
minimizes
the
need
for
further
urban
expansion.
The
recommended
approach
will
help
ensure
pps
compliance
in
terms
of
certainly
the
category
one
lands
and
maintaining
that
15-year
residential
land
supply.
F
M
F
That
will
be
a
a
good
growth
management
tool
for
the
future
of
the
city
and
and
where,
if
we
need
further
urban
expansion
in
the
future,
where
those
should
be
directed
so
we're
looking
forward
to
direction
on
that
in
terms
of
the
urban
expansion
lands,
we
we
believe
that
they
they
will
encourage
growth
and
support
existing
commercial
areas
and
existing
or
planned
transit
hubs,
and
that
for
those
lands
that
need
more
work.
F
We
we're
asking
for
more
time
to
come
back
with
that
that
further
analysis
and
recommendation
and
the
additional
industrial
lands
again
will
help
mitigate
the
risk
of
of
really
not
meeting
our
needs
for
for
land
extensive
uses,
such
as
those
warehousing
and
distribution
facilities
that
are
certainly
on
on
the
the
growth
trend
right
now.
So
that
concludes
our
presentation,
madam
chair
and
mr
chair
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
steve
don
and
the
whole
team
and,
of
course
royce
as
well
for
your
presentation
we're
going
to
start
with
with
our
speakers.
We
have
sign
up
wayne
french
board,
member
of
the
car
pro
corridor
and
bia
executive
director,
rodney
boliver,
and
I
believe
that
both
gentlemen
signed
up
for
five
minutes.
D
So
I'm
not
sure.
Why
do
you
want
to
start
or
mr
french.
D
That's
on
item
number
one:
yes,
yes,
that's
right!
So
we'll
turn
her
over
to
wayne
you're
gonna
start
is
your
friend.
B
Yes,
good
yes,
good
morning
morning,
chair
carter
and
jerry
ilsantiri
and
joint
committee
counselors,
my
name
is
wayne
french
and
I
am
a
board
member
of
the
carp
road
bia
corridor.
We
represent
over
300
property
owners
and
businesses
located
in
the
city's
designated
carp
road
corridor,
employment
area
and
the
carp
airport.
B
Each
of
the
reports
before
you
today
speaks
to
the
value
of
the
car
of
the
corridor
in
ottawa.
One
statistic
stands
out.
The
corridor
makes
up
fully
20
of
all
the
employment
land
in
ottawa.
That's
all
the
urban
and
rural
employment
land.
If
today's
recommendation
supports
economic
development,
the
benefits
will
be
seen
to
the
largest
scale
in
the
corridor.
B
The
information
in
these
reports
do
we
wish
our
members
and
more
broadly
ottawa's
light
industry
sector
had
been
provided
more
opportunity
to
input
into
the
reports
and
the
recommendations.
Yes,
we
do
do.
We
wish
the
city
had
given
more
consideration
to
strategic
servicing
for
economic
benefit,
including
seeking
out
new
and
innovative
ways
to
provide
cost-effective
servicing
solutions.
B
B
N
Thanks
wayne,
madam
chair,
mr
chair,
I.
B
N
Have
three
spots
on
the
agenda
for
each
item
but
we'll
limit
our
comments
to
to
this
one.
As
wayne
mentioned,
the
quarter
is
20
of
the
land,
that's
shown
in
the
vacant
land
report,
and
we
feel
that
when
you
have
20
percent
of
your
eggs
in
one
basket,
a
plan
for
that
basket
is
a
good
idea.
N
Again,
my
name
is
ronnie
bolivar.
I
worked
as
an
infrastructure
engineer
for
12
years
of
the
city,
including
infrastructure,
to
support
land
supply
for
three
official
plans.
We
heard
about
some
of
the
work
that's
been
done
and
I
know
the
hard
work
that
staff
have
put
in.
We've
also
heard
that
in
in
the
verbal
report
and
in
the
reports
that
these
lands
will
be
costly
to
service
and
there
will
be
challenges.
I
can
tell
committee
members
if
there's
a
piece
of
land
in
ottawa,
that's
not
costly
and
not
challenging.
N
N
That
is
how
we
view
growth
in
the
corridor
at
the
heart
of
the
work
of
the
bia,
as
well
as
the
five
big
moves
are
a
thriving
business
community,
providing
many
economic
benefits
to
our
community
and
always
in
a
resilient
and
sustainable
way.
As
example,
we
asked
the
city
and
the
city
responded
for
new
zoning
permissions
in
the
quarter
to
expand,
uses
more
diverse
uses
will
provide
a
more
vibrant
and
sustainable
and
resilient
business
community.
N
The
expansion
report
and
supporting
documents
do
not
extend
critical
assessment
of
some
of
the
identified
drivers,
challenges
and
opportunities.
For
instance,
the
report
says
water,
waste,
water
and
storm
water
services
in
rural
areas
may
be
cost
per
heaven,
but
have
those
costs
been
compared
to
economic
benefit?
N
This
leads
me
to
ask
the
first
item
in
our
written
submission
to
you,
and
today
is
that
the
city
initiate
an
economic
development
strategy
for
the
late
industry
sector.
This
is
the
sector
who
literally
build
ottawa.
This
is
the
sector
that
will
grow
in
the
identified
expansion
areas,
and
this
is
the
sector
that
will
grow
in
the
corridor.
A
strategy
for
that
growth
matching
the
area
that
has
been
designated
will
be
important
to
ensuring
that
those
companies
are
here
to
build
ottawa.
N
Our
second
ask:
is
the
city
consider
a
safety
valve
in
finalizing
the
existing
industrial
expansion
areas,
similar
to
the
the
way
that
was
done
for
category
b
and
sea
lands?
That
says
the
end
of
my
presentation
and,
as
I
said,
while
we
have
three
spots
designated
we'll
finalize
our
comments
here
and
open
up
the
time
for
other
speakers.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
both
mr
french
and
roddy.
We
have
a
question
from
the
vice
chair,
glendale
council,
governor.
N
Yes,
thank
you
wayne
and
thanks
roddy,
I
guess
you're
just
north
of
stittsville,
but
your
input
is
very
important
to
me
and
to
our
committee.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
you
do
bring
up
a
good
question
and
I
guess
maybe
it's
not
only
a
question
but
an
observation.
The
importance
that
we
link
these.
We
link
the
right
strategies
and
policy
to
the
lands
identified.
It's
not
enough.
Just
to
say
here
are
the
lands.
N
We
need
to
put
some
measures
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we
encourage
and
support
the
type
of
development
we
want
to
see.
So
when
we
do
get
to
staff
questions,
probably
tomorrow
I'll
be
raising
that
with
staff
and
just
trying
to
you
know,
get
a
sense
of
what
they're
contemplating
in
terms
of
the
final
policy
and
how
that
links
into
the
the
land
use
recommendations,
particularly
in
regards
to
industrial.
So
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
N
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
council
governor
and
yes
rodney.
You
did
just
to
speak
for,
but
now
we're
dealing
with
item
number
one,
which
is
you
both
for
on
item
number
one
and
that's
the
end
of
speaker
for
item
number
one
is
that
rachmanin
chair,
yeah,
okay,
so
on
the
item
number
one
is
inventory
of
bacon
industrial
business
spotlight
2018-2019
update
that
the
planning
and
agricultural
and
rural
affairs
committee
received
this
report
at
the
basis
of
the
existing
industrial
and
logistics
land
supply
for
the
new
official
plan.
D
A
And
we
have
the
same
speakers
before
us
unless
you've
already
spoken
at
the
same
time
to
that,
did
you
have
anything
else
to
say
on
this
item
before
we
vote
on
it,
roddy.
N
I'll
just
quickly
say
that
the
the
report
brings
attention
that
54
of
the
companies
in
ottawa
are
less
than
five
people
and
that
really
characterizes
the
corridor,
and
so
we
would
support
the
city's
efforts
to
to
support
small
business
at
all
times
and
certainly
as
we
recover.
Thank
you.
A
D
That
the
planning
and
agriculture
and
rural
affairs
committee
received
this
report
at
the
base
of
existing
jobs
as
a
part
of
the
industrial
and
lots
of.
O
Councilman
thanks
very
much
chairs,
for
that.
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
staff's
overview
of
how
coveted
19
is
affecting
and
I've
read.
The
report
is
affecting
our
employment
lands
for
the
potential
future.
I
know
a
lot
of
this.
The
study
was
done
before
the
the
large
effects
of
covid
and
some
of
the
potential
hollowing
out
of
of
some
of
that
downtown
retail.
O
The
way
the
federal
government
has
been
moving
with
regard
to
work
from
home
and
the
continuing
work
from
home
that
they're
saying
is
gonna
happen
even
after
the
pandemic,
as
well
as
some
large
companies
like
shopify,
which
have
made
that
transition
in
its
entirety.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
staff's
view
and
analysis
of
how
copin
19
is
affecting
it
and
may
affect
it
into
the
future,
and
I
may
have
a
couple
other
questions
as
well.
O
G
So
cheryl
I'll
start
responding
and
royce.
Who
may
wish
to
add
to
what
I
want
to
add.
First
of
all,
in
terms
of
the
matters
before
you
know
we're
talking
about
the
employment
survey
specifically
in
in
the
work,
and
we
it's
too
early
to
see
the
impacts
of
kobit
covid19
and
we
really
have
no
measurable
tools.
G
Although
we
are
bringing
a
report
to
finance
and
economic
development
committee
in
march,
which
will
be
the
latest
of
what
we
do
know
from
market-based
information
as
it
relates
to
the
recommendations
in
the
growth
management
report,
office,
space
is
largely
dealt
with
in
the
urbanized
areas
and
mixed
use
areas.
The
the
industrial
freight
storage
strategy
is
very
separate
from
that,
and
not
part
of
that
and
not
linked
to
that
and
we're
not
adding
additional
lands
as
it
relates
to
office
supply.
G
The
land
recommendations
related
to
industrial
storage
supply,
which
we
have
seen
a
major
surge
prior
the
pandemic,
and
we
think
it's
accelerating,
based
on
what
has
happened
during
the
pandemic
and
royce,
may
wish
to
supplement
what
I
have
stated
here.
Thanks
chairs.
L
Yes,
so
I
would
concur
with
mr
willis
that
the
long-term
effects
from
covet
19
are
built
to
predict
in
terms
of
what
we've
seen
in
the
short
term
on
the
industrial
we
are
seeing
that
that
industry
is
actually
has
rebound
rebounded
since
the
initial
impact
of
covet
19
in
the
first
few
months
of
the
first
wave
and
there's
a
section
that
discusses
this
in
document
five
to
item
three
in
the
industrial
logistics
land
strategy,
it's
section
2.1
and
discusses
the
the
coven
19
implications,
and
to
summarize
it
it
talks
about
how
we
have
seen
impacts
in
sectors
such
as
storefront,
retail,
food
and
accommodation.
L
We
also
have
seen
some
some
positive
impacts
on
the
industrial
and
goods
movement
sector.
So
we
we
envision
and
a
lot
a
lot
of
that
is
based
on
just
to
drive
the
movement
to
e-commerce
and,
of
course,
that
is
really
part
of
that
front
end
or
that
customer
end
interface
with
with
distribution
and
goods
movement
now,
in
terms
of
longer
term
impacts
of
just
general
employment,
not
just
industry
related.
L
We
there
could
be
issues
that
evolve
over
longer
term
associated
from
working
with
home.
Not
everyone
has
sufficient
space
to
work
for
from
home
for
longer
periods.
Not
everyone
has
sufficient
network
connectivity
for
to
work
from
home
for
longer
periods,
and
not
everyone
can
conduct
their
work
without
domestic
or
school-related
interruptions,
and
not
everyone
will
be
able
to
use
the
existing
social
connections
and
capital
to
effectively
navigate
the
work
environment.
L
So
what
that
means
when
the
when
the
pandemic
initially
hit-
and
we
all
worked
from
home,
we're
able
to
get
around
that
and
work
from
home
sort
of
efficiently,
because
we
knew
how
our
our
our
businesses
worked,
where
those
business
lines
and
who
to
connect
and
who
to
contact
if
you're,
starting
out
in
a
new
job
in
a
new
corporation
in
a
new
entity,
you're
not
going
to
have
that
corporate
knowledge
and
it
would
be
very
difficult
to
navigate
and
you
won't
really
have
the
efficiencies
there
and
you
know
over
in
terms
of
longer
term.
L
You
know
not.
Everyone
is
satisfied
with
the
current
virtual
interactions
as
a
substitute
for
in-person
interaction,
whether
that's
a
formal
business
meeting
or
just
having
a
chit
chat
over
the
water
cooler
or
by
the
coffee
mission.
So
I
think
you
know
just
in
terms
of
the
longer
term
impacts.
We
still
have
to
see
how
this
plays
out,
and
then
you
know
as
part
of
what
we
do.
Is
we
monitor
and
see
how
the
actual
job
numbers
play
out
in
response
to
that.
O
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
just
just
to
follow
up.
Madam
chair,
mr
chair.
In
the
report,
we
talk
about
the
fact
that
the
the
green
belt
within
the
green
belt
saw
losses
with
an
overall
decline
of
about
7
900
jobs
since
since
2012.
and
then
outside
the
greenbelt
urban
areas.
West
of
the
rita
river
saw
a
gain
of
about
3,
000
jobs
and
in
urban
areas,
east
of
the
rita
river.
O
There
were
310
fewer
jobs
than
in
2012,
so
there
was
an
increase
in
industrial
jobs,
156
new
jobs
in
the
rural
area
and
then
between
2012
and
2016
rural
areas
absorbed
5.6
percent
of
total
new
business
park,
jobs
in
ottawa,
higher
than
the
5
royal
proportion
of
total
city
industrial
jobs.
So
I
I
guess
the
the
question
is
how
it
relates
to
urban
boundary
expansion
if
we
are
and
the
intensification
we're
trying
to
reach
if
we're
to
concentrate
most
of
the
growth
in
the
core
and
within
the
green
belt.
O
Eventually,
what
is
the
economic
strategy
to
restore
further
boost
jobs
within
that
area?
Obviously,
the
vacant
industrial
business
lands
within
the
green
belt,
which
is
a
lot
of
it
held
by
the
federal
government.
You
know
how
does
the
city
plan
to
leverage
that
land
to
facilitate
population
and
employment
growth
over
time.
G
So
chair,
the
counselor
actually
asks
a
very
interesting
question
and
we
we're
looking
at
an
update
to
our
economic
development
strategy
which,
because
of
our
staff
demands
and
focused
on
short-term
economic
recovery,
will
probably
come
at
the
beginning
of
the
next
term
of
council,
and
I
think
those
are
all
very
valid
points
that
we
need
to
address
in
that
updated
economic
development
strategy.
We
do
know
that
we
are
looking
for
a
very
substantial
intensification
inside
the
the
existing
city
boundaries
as
they
exist.
G
Today
I
mean
just
raw
numbers:
we're
looking
at
24
increase
in
dwelling
units
across
all
of
the
existing
built
up
areas
of
the
city.
Today
to
meet
the
number
of
dwelling
news,
we
need
to
hit
a
60
intensification
target,
so
we
will
be
concentrating
a
much
higher
population
in
the
downtown
and
in
those
key
hub
areas
that
are
in
our
new
official
plan
and
in
the
corridors.
G
That's
what
the
plan
contemplates
now
that
will
create
new
opportunities
to
revive
small
business,
because
the
demand
will
be
there.
But
you
know
the
punishing
effect
of
the
pandemic
will
take
several
years
to
bounce
back
out
of,
and
we
know
the
core
still
will
be
central
to
the
federal
government.
It
still
will
be
there.
G
The
council
raises
a
point
about
the
green
belt,
and
actually
the
work
that
we've
done
on
autonomous
vehicle
testing
in
the
film
studio
is
is
a
really
good
examples
on
how
we've
collaborated
with
the
federal
government
on
how
the
greenbelt
lands
could
be
used
for
employment,
yet
protect
their
green
character.
O
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
My
last
question
on
this
chairs
is
around
that
that
large,
the
the
large
industrial
expansion
in
the
stittsville
area-
that's
a
big,
that's
a
big
chunk
of
land
that
that
we're
expanding
and
potentially
including
on
the
industrial
side,
and
so
I
I
just
wonder,
has
that.
O
Has
there
been
discussion
with
with
neighboring
businesses
with
neighboring
residents
with
regard
to
that
proposed
large
expansion
there,
or
is
that
still
yet
to
come?.
L
Chairs,
so
that
that's
part
of
the
official
plan
review
through
the
consultation,
I
will
note
that
some
of
the
submissions
we
have
received
on
the
item
before
you
today,
some
of
the
businesses
on
the
west
side
of
carp
road
corridor.
They
are
supportive
of
the
designation,
but
to
answer
that
question
that
will
come
through
the
consultation
process
in
the
official
review.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
bernard
and
councillor
meehan.
P
Thank
you
very
much
chair,
just
just
a
question
to
see
the
concentration
of
industrial
in
the
carp
road
corridor.
I
I
fully
understand
why
that's
happening.
I
have
a
pocket
of
light
industrial
well,
much
lighter
industrial
than
than
carp
road
in
riverside
south
and
riverside
south
with
its
proximity
to
the
airport.
I'm
I'm
surprised
that
we
don't
have
more
land
designated
for
economic
growth
and
to
I'm
just
wondering
do
in
the
airport
area.
P
P
I'm
it's
just
a
question
because
we're
seeing
most
of
our
growth
out
here
being
a
residential,
we
have
very
little
opportunity.
How
can
we
possibly
grow
these
areas
if
the
land
doesn't
exist.
L
So
chairs,
in
the
vacant
industrial
inventory
that
joint
communities
just
received
as
item
one
in
the
back,
it
itemizes
the
vacant
industrial
lands
around
the
airport
and
in
riverside
south,
and
so
there
is
an
inventory
of
vacant
land
there.
As
we
move
through
the
new
official
plan.
One
of
the
proposed
designations
is
a
special
district
from
the
airport
and
working
with
the
airport
authority
on
creating
a
secondary
plan
and
one
of
the
aspects
of
the
secondary
plan.
I
imagine,
would
be
looking
at
how
to
get
some
of
those
industrial
lands
online
and.
L
So
chairs,
there
are
two
challenges
with
the
airport
and
rivers:
the
industrial
lands,
rivers
itself,
I'll
start
with
the
airport.
The
lands
are
on
the
airport,
they
are
under
the
airport
authority,
and
so
they
have
lease
arrangements
that
a
little
bit
different
from
what
businesses
are
used
to.
So
I
think
it's
more
about
the
connections
that
potential
leases
would
have
with
the
airport
authority
and
how
those
agreements
would
play
out
in
terms
of
the
lands
of
riverside
south.
L
They
are
located
just
south
of
the
airport
and
they're
a
great
location.
If
we
have
increased
air
cargo
traffic,
the
thing
with
with
ottawa
is
it's
not
on
the
flight
path?
It's
not
an
area
that
is,
has
high
demand
for
air
cargo.
L
So
if
there
were,
things
were
to
change
through
the
industry
or
or
fuel
consumption,
or
what
have
you
for
the
airplanes
that
sort
of
alter
those
those
air
freight
catchment
areas
in
riverside
south
that
could
come
on
its
location?
South
of
the
airport
also
puts
it
away
from
the
highway.
The
400
series
highways,
which
were
currently
where
most
of
our
goods
movement
moves
through.
L
So
it's
anticipated
that
if
the
lands
adjacent
to
the
highways
become
developed-
and
there
is
a
demand
for
further
industrial
within
ottawa,
the
next
choice
of
lands
would
be
large
parcels
in
in
areas
such
as
riverside
south.
P
Would
you
say
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
if
you
do
have
a
pocket
of
industrial
to
to
protect
that
that
that
pocket
and
provide
a
buffer
zone
or
an
area
around
it?
Where,
though,
we
continue
to
grow?
P
I'm
talking
specifically,
I've
got
a
nice
pocket
of
industrial
manufacturing
at
the
corner
of
albion
and
literal
roads,
and
we
are
now
proceeding
to
build
houses
around
it,
which
I
find
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
But
when
the
land
is
purchased
by
developers,
it's
very
hard
to
protect
it,
it
counts.
Yeah,
sorry
does
koi.
Have
this
rules.
G
As
new
as
new
residential
comes
comes
online,
there
are
strict
provincial
policies
related
to
setbacks
from
industrial
uses
based
on
the
intensity
of
industrial
uses.
So
from
a
light
industrial
area
there's
a
very
minimal
setback
from
a
medium.
It's
a
mid-sized
setback,
and
if
it
was
a
big
heavy
dirty
industry,
it
would
be
a
very
large
setback.
So
all
planning
approvals
are
governed
by
the
setback
rules
and
because
it's
a
provincial
standard
ottawa
applies
what's
applied
in
southern
ontario
as
well.
G
So
that's
how
we
protect
existing
industries
from
the
effects
of
encroachment
by
other
land
users.
P
Yeah,
I
guess
I
wish
I
had
sorry
never.
D
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
counselor.
So
what
I'm
gonna
read
the
item,
one
more
time
that
the
planning
and
agricultural
and
rural
affairs
committee
received
this
report
as
basis
of
the
existence
job
as
a
part
of
the
industrial
logistics
land
strategy
for
the
new
official
plan
on
the
item
received
received,
see.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague
officer
harden.
A
Well,
thank
you,
chair
el
shanterian,
thanks
everyone.
Next
up
we're
going
to
start
the
delegations,
we
have
close
to
50.,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
today.
This
is
for
the
new
official
plan
growth
management
report
to
lands
proposed
for
residential
and
industrial
urban
expansion,
and
our
first
speakers
today
are
lynne.
Clucier
algonquin
negotiation,
representative
of
ottawa,
on
behalf
of
the
algonquins
of
ontario
and
janet
stavinga
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
algonquins
of
ontario
consultation
office
with
them.
They
have
a
lot
of
their
team.
A
Let's
see,
I
think,
they've
got
all
the
bases
covered.
So
with
that
hi
janet,
I
see
you
smiling
there
are
you
going
first
janet.
Q
No,
my
my
elected
official
lynn
coochie
will
be
speaking.
Thank
you.
A
Okay
and
there
you
are
lynn
you're
over
in
the
other
corner.
It's
such
a
weird
setup
here,
lynn
welcome
again,
and
you
have
five
minutes
and
janet
has
time
as
well.
So
between
the
two
of
you
there's
10
minutes,
thanks
very
much
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready.
K
I
think
we'd
know
by
now:
don't
you
wouldn't
you
so
good
morning,
everyone,
members
of
the
planning
committee
and
the
agricultural
and
rural
affairs
committee
and
the
chairs?
My
name
is
lynn
kluche,
and
I
am
the
algonquin
negotiation
representative
for
the
ottawa
algonquin
community
and
the
algonquins
of
ontario.
K
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
today.
For
the
past
year,
the
algonquins
of
ontario
have
been
advancing
our
vision
for
taiwan,
a
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
create
one
of
canada's
most
respectful
connected,
sustainable
and
inclusive
communities,
a
community
that
embodies
algonquin
values
and
literally
means
home
in
algonquin.
K
Since
the
beginning
of
our
treaty-making
process
in
1992,
the
algonquins
of
ontario,
the
aoo
have
been
striving
to
make
our
presence
known
and
felt
within
the
unseated
aoo
settlement
area.
We
are
seeking
opportunities
to
participate
in
economic
development
and
capacity
building
within
eastern
ontario,
and
especially
within
the
city
of
ottawa.
K
Our
people,
the
original
stewards
and
holders
of
aboriginal,
title
and
rights
of
this
land
and
its
resources
have
been
precluded
from
these
opportunities
for
too
long.
Now
is
the
time
for
the
algonquins
of
ontario
to
seize
the
rich
opportunities
for
community
building
sustainability
and
prosperity
that
the
tawan
land
provides.
K
It
is
time
for
a
community
led
by
the
algonquins
of
ontario
to
be
integrated
into
the
city
of
ottawa
and
the
capital
of
canada.
Taiwan
will
be
a
community
like
no
other
algonquin
history.
Culture,
voice
and
teachings
will
be
a
fundamental
element
in
the
consultation
planning
and
design
processes
in
the
development
of
tawin.
K
In
keeping
with
an
algonquin
world
view,
it
will
be
a
whole
community
with
all
elements
depending
on
every
other
element.
Talon
will
be
a
place
that
is
healthy,
respectful
and
connected
to
the
earth
sustainability.
A
modern
term
has
long
been
the
practice
of
the
algonquin
people
and
their
ancestors.
K
One
planet
living
is
the
vision
of
a
world
where
all
people
live,
happy
and
healthy
lives
within
the
ecological
limits
of
our
one
planet,
comprised
of
10
holistic
principles
that
address
all
aspects
of
environmental,
social
and
economic
sustainability.
The
one
planet
living
framework
is
well
aligned
with
algonquin
values,
teachings
and
aspirations.
K
K
We
are
excited
to
build
the
story
of
taiwan,
a
story
of
algonquin
culture
and
history,
unity
and
collaboration,
innovation
and
excellence,
and
right
relations
with
nature.
We
hope
you
will
join
us
in
creating
this
story
and
sees
the
once
in
a
generation
opportunity
to
build
a
model,
sustainable
and
inclusive
community
at
taiwan.
K
K
Q
Thank
you
very
much
lynn.
On
behalf
of
the
algonquins
of
ontario,
we
expressed
our
thanks
to
steve
willis
and
his
team
for
the
excellent
report
that
is
before
the
special
joint
committee
for
consideration.
Today,
however,
the
recommendations
do
not
go
far
enough.
A
city
staff
have
recommended
that
taywin
be
identified
as
category
3
lands.
Q
But
these
studies,
including
the
financial,
the
planning,
the
infrastructure,
the
transit,
the
geotechnical
and
the
environmental
studies,
as
cited
by
staff
today
in
their
presentation
this
morning,
must
be
done
in
the
context
of
taiwan
being
within
and
accepted
within
the
city's
urban
boundary.
Now
the
algonquins
have
waited
long
enough.
Q
Q
Q
K
In
conclusion,
we
think
we
think
our
taiwan
is
a
good
project
and
we
think
our
team
and
the
project
will
have
a
transformative
effect
on
the
future
of
ottawa.
Thank
you
all
chairs,
counselors
and
city
staff,
for
listening
for
your
interest
and
for
your
favorable
consideration
of
our
request.
Jai
maegwich.
A
And
now
we
have
counselors
who
have
questions,
and
I,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
a
strong
team
with
lynn
and
janet
here
to
answer
questions
and
I'll.
Look
to
you,
jan
and
lin,
to
redirect
the
questions,
as
you
will.
First
speaker
is
counselor
leeper
country
leaper,.
M
Thanks
sure,
thanks
both
for
the
the
presentation,
I
am
excited
about
the
potential
that
taywin
can
be
brought
in
within
our
our
boundaries.
The
lands
that
are
currently
being
proposed
to
be
brought
in
in
this
first
round
have,
you
know
very
clearly
met
city
council's
criteria
for
inclusion.
M
There
are
three
options
for
making
up
the
remainder
of
the
land,
which
you
heard
in
the
the
staff
presentation.
The
first
is
kind
of
a
distributed
option
of
parcels
to
make
up
an
additional
270
hectares.
M
There
is
the
proposal
to
potentially
focus
on
three
areas,
or
there
is
the
potential
to
put
all
of
our
eggs
in
the
taywin
basket,
to
make
up
the
lands
that
are
required
in
order
to
make
up
the
full
the
full
supply
that
we
forecast.
M
If
council
were
to
take
that
third
option
on
recommendation
of
of
this
committee
to
say,
we
want
to
make
up
the
remainder
of
the
inventory
through
inclusion
of
the
tawin
lands.
Wouldn't
that
give
you
the
certainty
you
need
in
order
to
begin
the
studies
that
would
demonstrate
that
these
lands
can
meet
the
same
criteria
as
the
lands
that
we're,
including
today,.
Q
Wouldn't
you
want
me
to
take
that
okay
and
then
I'll
actually
then
turn
over
to
sydney
rotenberg
of
our
urban
strategies
to
speak
more,
but
councillor
leeper.
You
have
actually
truly
identified
what
we
have
seen
as
well
that
we
need
that
that
commitment
that
express
commitment
we
need
to
bring
in
that
500
hectares
that
500
hectares
will
allow
us
to
see
the
realization
of
the
principles
within
one
planet,
one
living.
We
can't
talk
about
a
15-minute
community.
Q
E
Thank
you,
janet
joint
chairs,
members
of
committee.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
all
of
their
hard
work.
I
think
janet
you've
done
a
very
good
job.
I'm
not
sure
that
I
can
add
a
tremendous
amount
more.
E
E
The
vision
for
taewin
the
algonquins
of
ontario
are
putting
forward
is,
for
a
whole
community,
a
community
which
very
much
maps
onto
ottawa's
concept
and
a
concept
that
is
being
spoken
about
at
large
in
planning
circles,
which
is
the
idea
of
a
complete
15-minute
community,
a
community
that
is
built
at
transit,
supportive
densities,
from
the
very
first
day
that
residents
arrive,
and
so
that
requires
more
land
than
the
remaining
land
budget
of
270
hectares.
As
we
understand,
staff
have
identified
through
very
careful
work
on
behalf
of
our
multi-disciplinary
team.
E
M
It
does
I
mean,
fundamentally,
we
don't
want
to
add
more
land
in
total
than
council
approved
last
may
in
order
to
achieve
the
intensification
targets
that
we're
seeking.
So
does
your
proposal
to
add
all
500
today,
logically
speaking,
that
must
imply
that
we
would
need
to
remove
you
know
230
hectares
from
the
lands
that
we're
adding
from
other
property
owners.
M
I
and
you
know
obviously
the
the
various
landowners
don't
want
to
throw
each
other
under
the
bus
with
respect
to
targeting
which
parcel
should
come
out,
I'm
going
to
guess
that
you
have
not
identified
what
230
hectares
you're
shaking
your
head,
so
that
makes
sense
I'll
just
finalize.
My
final
question
is:
is
it
all
or
nothing
if
we
don't
include
500
hectares,
but
we
proceed
with
option
three
from
the
2026
edition
is
taywin
still
on
the
table.
Q
So,
as
indicated
earlier
counselor
with
great
respect
by
putting
us
in
the
category
three
you're
asking
the
algonquins
of
ontario
and
our
partners
to
invest
significant
time,
significant
dollars
in
numerous
studies,
with
no
commitment
that
the
algonquins
will
be
allowed
to
go
in
the
algonquins
of
ontario
and
the
algonquins
themselves
have
been
waiting
too
long
to
be
part
of
the
cultural
and
the
socio-economic
fact
of
this
city.
Q
A
George,
how
about
we
hang
on
I'll,
go
to
counselor,
gower
and
we'll
come
back
and
try
you
perhaps
melody
can
work
her
magic,
counselor
gower
vice
chair
gower,.
N
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
approaching
this
a
bit
of
caution
because
I'm
not
sure
how
to
answer.
I'm
not
trying
to
ask
the
question:
counselor
leeper,
I
think,
started
down
the
right
road
and
asking
exactly
what
what
what
you're
asking
of
the
committee
today,
which
would
be
not
only
to
add
270
sectors
and
detectors
in
the
the
taiwan,
but
but
500
in
the
taiwan
which
to
me
would
say
we
would
be
taking
off
of
the
table
230
hectares
of
land
that
has
scored
considerably
higher.
N
That
would
allow
us
to
to
reach
our
immediate
goals
in
the
next
10
to
15
years
for
healthy
land
use
in
terms
of
urban
boundary
expansion,
and
I
think
what
I've
been
struggling
in.
All
of
this
is
is:
can
you
help
us
understand
what
role
or
how
we
should
consider
reconciliation
and
indigenous
land
rights
in
a
planning
process?
N
K
I'll
jump
in
here,
the
whole
concept
of
taiwan
is
based
on
a
world
view
as
us
as
a
planet,
we're
using
up
our
resources
really
quickly.
We
all
know
that
we're
going
to
run
out
of
everything
if
human
beings
don't
change
their
way
and
the
algonquins
as
people
who
live
and
whose
culture
comes
directly
from
the
land
and
maybe
more
recently
than
many
others,
their
world
view
is
that
we
are
all
one.
We
are
part
of
the
of
the
of
the
natural,
the
natural
environment,
so
one
pla
or
15
minute
communities.
K
Everybody
has
a
job,
it's
more
than
that,
it's
about
community
and
it's
a
community.
It's
an
element,
that's
really
hard
to
measure,
but
nevertheless
we're
coming
to
terms
as
a
country
with
the
idea
that
we
have
to
deal
with
this
element
of
living
together.
And
so
that's
where
inclusion
or
where
reconciliation
comes.
It
comes
with
inclusion.
It
comes
with
acknowledgement
of
value
of
community
and
of
everybody
in
it,
and
so
I
hope
that
answered
your
question.
Q
So
thanks
lynn,
and
just
also,
I
think,
council
governor
what
you've
noted
is
there's
a
number
before
you
being
presented
by
staff,
a
number
of
recommendations
for
you
where
land
has
scored
considerably
higher.
But
what
we
are
saying
is
we
are
challenging
those
conclusions
done
by
staff.
Q
You
recall
that
staff
had
come
forward
back
in
may
with
a
very
technical,
and
I
don't
mean
to
be
derogatory
in
this
way,
but
a
very
you
know
a
numeral,
a
numeric
approach
as
to
the
quantification
or
the
qualification
when
land
should
come
in.
In
your
wisdom
at
committee
joint
committee
and
then
at
council,
you
endorse
the
five
big
moves.
We
have
proven
that
we
can
deliver
on
those
five
big
moves
and
I'm
just
going
to
turn
it
over
to
cindy
very
briefly
as
well
to
provide
any
additional
insights
on
this
one
cindy.
E
Thank
you,
lynn
and
janet.
Once
again,
you
have
done
a
better
job
than
I
can
of
answering,
but
I
do
just
want
to
round
out
the
perspective,
which
is
that
taiwan
is
absolutely
fundamentally
about
right
relations
with
the
algonquins
of
ontario
about
a
reconciliation
process,
but
it
also
stands
fully
on
its
own
in
terms
of
the
test
of
good
planning,
I
also
have
tremendous
respect
for
the
work
of
city
planning
staff.
E
That
evaluation
and
scoring
systems
are
probably
too
narrow
and
a
technical
process
to
make
such
fundamentally
important
decisions
as
ottawa
has
before
it
for
its
future,
and
so
I
think
that
if
you
take
a
very
holistic
perspective
to
evaluation,
which
includes
all
of
the
considerations
that
you
are
referring
to
respectfully
councilor
gower
but
add
more
in
terms
of
this
objective
of
creating
a
whole
community
which
truly
brings
the
five
streams
of
the
five
big
moves
together
to
create
the
whole
community
that
lin
indicated.
So
really
it's
a
difference
of
perspective.
N
Okay,
thank
you,
it
is.
It
is
a
very
compelling
concept.
I
think
where
my
thoughts
on
this
are
it
is.
It
is
compelling
it's
a
bold
idea,
reading
the
staff
report
and
their
evaluation.
It
also
will
certainly
come
with
a
very
high
cost
for
servicing
and
infrastructure
and
transit,
and
while
I
know
that
I
know
that
the
the
your
group
is
willing
and
says
they're
capable
to
pay
for
that,
I
still
think
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
and
for
a
council,
I
I
don't
think
it's
it's
a
compelling
concept
but
janet.
N
I
would
disagree
that
it's
proven,
because
I
think
there's
still
too
many
unknowns
with
how
it
would
be
actually
financed,
and
I
do
think
it
would
be
prudent
to
spend
some
more
time
evaluating
those
unknowns
before
we
before
we
launch
full
force
into
it.
So
I'm
supportive
of
the
concept,
but
I
do
think
we
need
more
time
as
a
city
to
make
sure
we're
understanding
the
the
financial
implications
and
and
addressing
some
of
the
risks
that
the
staff
report
has
identified.
But
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
for
the
perspective
today.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
I
just
probably
more
common.
I
want
to
thank
glenn
and
janet
and
their
team
for
the
presentation
this
morning
I
will
be
miss
if
I
don't
mention
most
of
the
taiwan
is
and
will
be
in
my
world
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
be
able
to
work
with
staff
and
what
they
want
team
to
be
able
to
making
sure
that
bring
this
dream
for
the
aoo
and.
N
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
George
counselor
dudas,
followed
by
counselor
moffat,
and
then
I
just
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I
said
that
I
would
announce
the
next
speakers
just
so
that
they
have
a
heads
up
when
they're
ready,
francoise.
You
know
gibb
patterson,
jamie
posen,
brian
leahy
and
andrew
glass.
Our
next
step
go
ahead.
Please
counselor
dude.
E
Thank
you
chair.
So
in
your
submission,
there
are
very
strong
opportunities
to
provide
transit
connections
to
the
south
of
our
city,
to
the
downtown
core
to
the
west
end,
but
there's
no
strong
connection
between
the
orleans
community
and
taiwan
lands
and
if
committee
joint
committee
and
council
were
to
incorporate
these
lands
into
the
op,
my
question
is:
have
you
given
any
consideration
into
what
infrastructure,
whether
it
be
public,
transit
or
roads
or
active
transportation?
E
This
land
mass
would
need
in
order
to
effectively
connect
to
the
orleans
community.
I
also
understand
that
some
of
the
lands
you're
incorporating
would
include
some
employment
and
these
opportunities,
so
there's
a
strong
possibility
that
the
orleans
residents
would
be
needing
to
access
this
land.
So
I'm
curious
as
to
what
thought
you've
given
to
it
and
what
infrastructure
you
would
need.
Q
E
Thank
you
janet
through
your
joint
chairs
that
counselor
dude
asks
excellent
question,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
believe
is
is
so
important
in
terms
of
ottawa.
Thinking
about
its
future
is
that
the
opportunity
at
taywin,
which
would
be
connected
from
day
one
as
I've
already
indicated,
to
either
the
airport
or
to
the
cereville
station
or
potentially
both
offers
a
great
opportunity
to
balance
out
the
transit
network
in
the
city
of
ottawa
for
the
long
term,
which
currently,
of
course,
is
very
oriented
to
the
west.
E
It
therefore
provides
an
opportunity
to
to
deliver
service
to
the
orleans
community
at
large.
You
know,
through
those
connections
at
the
the
lrt
line,
the
serial
station,
a
potential
bus,
rapid
transit
line
is
being
considered
along
highway
417,
which
would
connect
directly
to
the
amazon
lands.
Of
course,
these
are
early
ideas.
You
know,
I
think,
as
is
the
case
with
everything
that
has
been
proposed
to
date.
We
have
done
our
homework
comprehensively,
but
we
are
very
open.
E
N
A
C
Thank
you.
I
just
just
curious
about
some.
Maybe
your
thoughts
on
something
I
when
we
look
at
this
report.
Obviously
we
talk
about
the
1281,
that's
what
we
require.
As
you
know,
we
have
requirement
for
15
years
of
land
supply
over
the
course
of
this
official
plan.
C
The
reason
why
we're
we're
at
this
with
the
category
one
two
and
three
is
because
we
couldn't
easily
find
those
1281
hectares
of
land
in
the
category
one
lance
to
add
now
for
development.
So
now
we
look
at
the
270
what's
possible
with
those
do
we
look
at
category
2?
Do
we
look
at
category
3,
all
of
which
need
further
evaluation?
C
If,
because
right
now,
you're
not
only
asking
make
270
500
you're,
also
asking
put
the
500
in
today
alongside
those
category
one
lands,
the
risk
to
us
and
to
the
city
is
that
we
get
to
five
years
from
now
we
get
to
10
years
from
now.
Those
500
hectares
are
not
ready
for
development
they're,
not
we
haven't
been
able
to
figure
out
how
to
get
them
connected.
Do
these
those
sorts
of
things
and
now
we're
short
500
hectares.
C
Q
E
Yeah
through
you
joint
shares,
counselor
moffat,
another
very
important
question:
I
think
that
the
answer
to
your
question
is
that
we
have
a
very
large
team
of
engineers
of
development
experts
who
have
extensive
experience,
delivering
housing
product
and,
of
course,
taiwan.
It's
a
much
broader
vision
than
just
housing,
but
your
question
is
pertaining
to
housing.
E
E
My
colleagues,
three
engineers
have
written
to
counsel
they're
here
if
we
should
need
them
to
answer
questions,
but
I
think
the
most
important
thing
is
to
say
these
are
engineers
who
have
worked
in
the
ottawa
region
for
decades.
They
have
no
concerns
about
the
ability
to
deliver
development
at
taywin
in
a
timely
fashion.
E
Q
I
think
I'm
going
to
leave
it
there.
There
other
suffice
to
say
that
it's
important
for
us
again,
chairs
and
committee
could
do
that
additional
work
that
that
is
required.
It
is
important
that
we
have
that
confidence
of
counsel
and
we
believe
as
indicating
the
letter
that
we
provided
to
you,
and
there
was
not
just
the
letter
on
behalf
of
the
ao,
but
we
also
had
our
planning
team,
as
noted
by
cindy
the
two
letters
that
actually
challenge
those
assumptions
that
have
been
placed
in
the
staff
report.
There
is
a
difference
of
opinion.
D
More
than
once
in
your
speaking
janet,
you
mentioned,
the
time
is
now
the
time
is
now
so
you
you
use
that
three
times
in
your
short
speaking.
Can
you
tell
you
know
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
more?
Why
it's
the
times
now.
Q
Lynn,
do
you
want
to
chime
in,
and
I
can
certainly
from
a
perspective
of
not
being
algonquin
and
why
I
actually
emphasize
that
as
well.
Lynn,
well,.
K
K
We
hope
it's
such
a
tremendous
job
and
that
will
say
on
a
piece
of
paper
that
we're
here,
but
it
has
to
be
an
actual
fact.
We
have
to
be
present
in
our
community
and
recognized
as
who
we
are
now.
We
can't
wait
another
hundred
years
to
be
part
of
the
fabric
as
janet
has
phrased,
and
so
yes,
the
time
is
now
for
that
and
it's
not
just
for
for
us
to
be
seen.
But
it's
for
us
to
be
able
to.
K
K
I
think
the
time
is
now
not
just
for
algonquins
but,
as
I
said
earlier,
for
this
planet
to
start
planning
for
future
economic
development
in
a
holistic
way,
not
to
just
find
the
best
piece
of
little
land
and
have
a
small
subdivision
made
and
then
maybe
hope
it
links
up
to
another
one
later
and
another
development.
This
is
looking
at
the
whole
picture
and
it's
time
now
for
all
of
us
to
start
thinking
like
that,
and
if
we
don't,
we
do
so
at
our
peril.
D
Oh,
but
no,
I
need
to
hear
that
so
thank
you
so
much
to
speak
both
of
you
and
janet.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
something.
Q
Yes,
thanks
very
much
for
that
just
to
echolin's,
but
in
a
different
perspective,
because
I
have
now
it's
just
in
november
celebrating
my
10th
anniversary
working
with
algonquin
ontario,
I
am
not
an
indigenous
person.
Q
I
have
been
very
privileged
and
with
great
honor
to
serve
the
algonquins
to
be
included
in
the
way
that
I
have
been,
but
it's
all
as
a
matter-
and
I
put
this
to
city
to
the
committee
before
you
today.
It
is
about
a
commitment
it's
about
delivering
too
often
and
what
I've
learned
from
algonquin's
ontario-
and
I
was
incredibly
naive
with
regards
to
the
algonquins
and
their
history
within
this
territory
and,
quite
frankly,
I'm
ashamed
to
say
what
I
did
not
know
when
I
sat
on
city
council.
Q
But
what
I
know
today,
reconciliation
is
not
just
words.
Reconciliation
is
not
do
lots
of
studies
and
come
back
to
us
and
then
we'll
talk
to
you
about
whether
you're
in
or
out,
no
reconciliation
is
about
making
a
bold
step.
It's
about
taking
concrete
action.
We've
done
substantive
work,
we've
provided
that
to
city
staff.
City
staff
have
looked
at
that,
but
concluded
something
differently.
Q
We
dispute
those
conclusions
that
are
contained
within
the
report.
We've
given
additional
letters
to
support
that,
and
we
look
forward
to
further
dialogue,
but
the
dialogue
we
ask
is
once
the
algonquins
ontario
are
included
within
the
urban
boundary.
Too
often,
when
I
look
at
history,
we
have
a
tendency
to
make
promises
to
algonquin
people
and
we
have
not
delivered.
Q
There's
been
a
change
of
governors,
as
one
petition
goes
across
the
ocean
to
another
over
250
years.
The
time
is
now
they've
waited
far
too
long
to
be
part
of
the
fabric
of
the
city
of
ottawa
and
of
this
nation's
capital
and
within
their
nation
that
they
are
working
very
hard
to
rebuild
as
part
of
the
treaty
negotiations.
Q
If
you
want
to
build
a
sustainable
community
that
will
have
a
generational
change,
you
can
do
it
in
taiwan.
The
algonquins
have
practiced
through
zippy.
We
have
a
collaborative
benefits
agreement
that
we
have
formed
with
zibi.
In
this
case
now
we
have
a
joint
venture
agreement
over
time,
the
10
years
working
with
algonquin.
We
have
built
upon
the
experiences
and
we
are
now
in
a
place
where
we
can
deliver
and
we
ask
for
your
confidence
to
allow
us
deliver.
Q
D
A
Thank
you
thanks
very
much.
The
next
speaker
is
francois
juneau,
followed
by
gib
patterson,
jamie
posen,
brian
leahy,
andrew
glass
and
then
jason
mcdonald.
So
francois
are
you
here.
Yes,.
A
N
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
must
thank
all
of
you
guys
for
your
patience
and
sitting
there.
I
don't
know
there
a
bio
break.
I
don't
know,
but
in
any
case
thank
you
for
the
opportunity-
and
I
think
I
have
learned
more
in
this
past
two
hours
or
so
than
I
have
since
university
days
when
I
had
to
sit
this
long.
N
But
in
any
case
it's
been
wonderful
and
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
two
people
that
have
been
working
relatively
hard
in
order
to
help
you
make
your
decisions
on
the
number
one
plan,
and
so
I
want
to
turn
this
over
to
the
two
gentlemen
that
are
going
to
speak
now,
and
they
would
be,
of
course,
mr
juno
francois
and
also
jamie
of
bosan
from
fo
ten.
So
I
out
now,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
us
to
be
with
you.
A
Well,
you're
welcome,
and
so
either
of
you,
mr
juno
or
mr
posen
go
ahead.
A
Hello
to
all
councillors,
president,
a
chairperson,
harder.
R
R
R
R
You
strive
to
achieve
the
best
possible
15-minute
community
with
an
increased
mix
of
commercial
and
redundant
residential
development
along
bank
street,
which
already
have
some
commercial
as
we
speak,
and
that
also
includes
a
plan
that
you'll
see
from
jamie.
That
has
a
proper
system
of
pathways
active
pathways
and
parks
to
bring
people
to
those
commercial
areas.
R
The
transportation
aspect
of
it
all
so
the
land
is
within
two
kilometers
from
the
future
extension
of
earl
armstrong
transit
priority
corridor,
and
we
also
have
a
committed
to
oc
transpo
to
take
mitigation
measures
to
bring
oc
transpo
commuters
to
the
future
litrium
lrt
station
or
to
the
boseville
lrt
station
through
the
southwest
via
the
earl
armstrong
way.
So
jamie
will
show
you
on
a
map
in
a
few
minutes.
R
R
We
believe
that
the
finlay
creek
parcel
should
be
given
priority
for
part
of
that
last
270
hectare
available
for
that
urban
expansion,
because
relative
to
other
parcels
were
connected
to
existing
neighborhood
and
its
infrastructure,
and
the
project.
Readiness
is
also
an
important
factor
to
consider
of
all
the
category.
R
Len
category
two
land
which
have
not
been
included
on
some
of
our
parcel
or
the
average
of
parcel
and
litrim
have
scored
higher
than
other
parcels
in
this
city
even
received
better
score
than
some
of
the
parcel
which
have
been
included
in
category
one
of
past
two.
R
So
another
aspect
to
consider
is
that
we
are
category
two
land
also
included
in
a
new
community
identified
as
lethal
as
it
was
shows
heading
east.
So
we
believe
that
it
would
be
important
to
plan
for
future
development
to
the
east
now
by
including
all
the
parcels
of
findlay,
creek,
north
of
earl,
armstrong
and
platinum
for
adequate
infrastructure
on
arthron
roads
and
all
the
other
roads
to
service
the
future
development
going
east.
C
For
sure,
thank
you
francois
and
madam
chair,
mr
chair.
We
all
are
part
of
the
same
team,
so
just
making
sure
everyone's
okay.
C
If
I
proceed,
my
role
here
today
is
to
outline
the
design
that
francois
was
alluding
to
foten
was
engaged
by
the
group
of
landowners
that
you
can
see
listed
on
on
the
map
on
the
screen
here
several
months
ago
to
take
a
look
at
these
lands
and
asked
us,
you
know
what
could
these
lands
look
like
if
they
were
seen
fit
to
be
brought
into
the
urban
boundary
through
this
official
plan
process,
and
so
in
that
process
we
we
took
a
look
at
how
best
to
not
only
integrate
these
lands
into
the
surrounding
context,
including
the
finley
creek
neighborhood,
but
also
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
official
plan
policies
that
are
being
brought
forward
as
part
of
the
new
draft
official
plan.
C
One
of
the
policies
is
actually
to
extend
earl
armstrong
to
the
south
of
these
lands
and
make
it
into
a
transit
priority
corridor
designated
transit
priority
corridor
and
that
being
the
case,
it
actually
allows
for
some
pretty
good
transit
integration
of
these
lands
into
the
surrounding
rapid
transit
network.
So
just
to
orient
everybody.
C
This
is
bank
street
running
down
the
middle
of
the
screen
here
and
we
have
hawthorne
road
on
the
east
side
counselors,
who
may
have
the
package
from
staff
in
front
of
them.
If
you
would
like
to
refer
to
page
32
of
document,
two,
that's
where
these
lands
are
shown
and
the
lands
up
in
the
northwest
here,
this
kind
of
general
area
up
in
here
are
labeled
as
l1
and
l2,
and
they
are
proposed.
Currently,
as
category
1
lands
proposed
to
be
brought
into
the
urban
boundary
by
staff,
the
remaining
lands
go
down.
C
C
The
first
thing
that
we
did
is
we
took
a
look
at
finley
creek
drive
and
made
a
loop,
a
transit-friendly
loop,
a
collector
road
that
would
go
looping
through
the
lens
as
followed
by
my
cursor
here,
and
the
benefit
of
that
is
that
it
allows
for
integration
with
existing
transit
services
and
also
the
ability
to
go
both
up
and
down
bank
street.
C
It
could
include
some
residential,
but
it
could
also
very
likely
include
commercial
uses,
especially
at
grade
and
in
other
building
forms.
The
combination
of
those
two
things
and
I'll
mention
quickly
as
well.
The
other
official
plan
direction
is
for
resident.
C
Thank
you
residential
densities,
to
be
increased
around
36.,
currently,
the
way
that
this
is
designed
and
envisioned,
it's
actually
proposed.
We
have
an
estimated
around
37.8,
so
it's
even
a
little
bit
higher
than
what
staff
are
proposing
through
their
directions
and
and
those
things
combined,
so
transit
access
through
here,
as
well
as
the
trails
and
green
space
corridors.
C
That
francois
was
alluding
to
allow
for
this
to
be
a
healthy
15-minute
community,
and
these
circles
here
show
generally
walking
distances
of
500
meters
and
then
the
larger
one
kilometer
walking
distance
throughout
the
entire
community.
So
I
will
leave
it
there
and
francois
any
finalized.
Our
final
remarks
to
make.
R
A
M
Thanks
chair,
so
these
lines
were
not
included.
On
what
basis
do
you
understand?
Staff
chose
that
direction.
R
One
of
the
aspect
is
when
we
looked
at
it.
I
know
there
was
some
issue
regarding
servicing
or
question
regarding
servicing
and
drainage.
So
obviously
we
talked
about
that.
We
did
meet
with
some
engineers
and
obviously
with
the
group
of
developer
that
you
already
quite
know
quite
well
definitely
we're
looking
into
cost
effective
measures.
That
would
be
not
only
only
for
the
developers
but
for
the
city
to
maintain
over
time,
and
so
that
we're
committed
to
do
this
for
sure.
R
Yeah
at
the
very
beginning,
we
thought
the
the
most
important
issue
was
going
to
be
traffic
and
the
the
well
not
traffic,
but
the
fact
that
we're
too
far
away
from
the
lrt
station,
because
in
fact
we're
about
four
kilometers
from
the
lrd
station,
both
through
the
development
and
through
the
discussion
that
we
had
with
councillors
and
with
city
staff.
We
understood
that
the
priority
lane
that
comes
on
earl
armstrong
make
it
much
closer
to
the
parcels
from
the
group,
so
that
made
it
a
little
easier.
R
This
way
and
the
other
commitment
is,
we
met
with
oc
transport
to
look
and
how
we
could
finance
a
service
with
a
loop
which
pretty
much
add,
like
probably
a
few
minutes
loop
around
in
that
neighborhood,
to
bring
people
to
the
lrt
station,
either
lithium
or
boseville,
and
that
we
were
looking
definitely
to
make
it
cost
effective
for
them,
especially
until
there's
enough
people
to
take
the
services
for
commuters.
But
we
have
those
discussion
with
oc
transpo.
We're
definitely
committed
to
look
into
it
and
take
our
part
in
it.
M
Okay,
so
to
two
big
outstanding
issues
before
these
can
be
included,
though
transit
and
servicing.
R
Yeah,
so
I
think
that
transit,
like
I
said,
got
better
over
time
and
servicing
were
definitely
more
than
committed
to
do
the
cost
effective
analysis
that's
being
required.
We
already
talked
to
the
engineers
that
work
all
the
land
around
it,
as
we
speak
so
to
understand,
what's
required
and
needed
in
order
to
service
those
parcels
properly.
R
A
A
S
A
S
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
and
good
morning,
madam
chair,
mr
chair
members
of
committee.
My
name
is
andrew
glass,
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
o'keefe
court
properties,
limited.
We
are
the
owners.
We
are
owners
of
the
property
located
at
4497
o'keefe
court.
I
believe
you
have
received
our
written
submission
on
friday
and
it's
not
my
intention
to
go
through
that
this
morning.
I
trust
you'll,
look
through
that
separately,
but
I
see
melody
you
put
the
exhibit
up
on
the
screen.
Thank
you.
S
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
couple
minutes
and
navigate
around
that
exhibit,
I
don't
think.
Can
you
see
my
cursor
or
probably
not?
Is
that
correct?
No,
okay,
all
right
fair
enough!
So
let's
take
a
little
bit
more
effort
here,
but
but
that
just
to
give
a
bit
of
context
that
exhibit
shows
the
area
around
the
interchange
at
highway,
416
and
strandford
north
is
to
the
top.
The
o'keefe
court
property
is
situated
in
that
northeast
quadrant
and
is
outlined
in
a
heavy,
yellow
dash
line.
Hope
that's
kind
of
visible
to
everybody.
S
The
existing
urban
area
is
that
heavy
black
line
that
you
can
see
it
runs
north
south,
along
cedar
view
east
west,
along
fallow
field,
o'keefe
court
and
then
south
down
416..
Everything
to
the
right
of
that
line
is
presently
inside
the
urban
area.
Everything
to
the
left
is
currently
outside
the
urban
area.
The
o'keefe
court
lands
they're
designated
in
the
ops
general
rural
zone,
general
general,
rural,
industrial
and
they're,
currently
vacant
immediately
adjacent
to
the
south.
S
I'm
just
going
to
take
a
couple
minutes
here
to
highlight:
highlight
the
serviceability,
transportation,
transit
and
community
integration
issues
surrounding
our
parcel,
as
they
relate
to
the
okay
plans.
S
Looking
at
municipal
services
and
burial,
there's
an
existing.
It's
shown
in
the
blue
line,
sort
of
cross
running
across
a
deep
blue
dash
line.
That's
an
existing
600
millimeter
water
main
located
in
o'keefe
court
right
at
the
property.
S
In
fact,
there's
four
key
policies
are
in
place
that
permit
o'keefe
to
connect
to
that
existing
water
main
service.
In
addition
about
500
meters,
east
of
the
property,
is
that
it
is
where
the
current
sanitary.
E
S
That
comes
along
okey
court
kind
of
terminates
and
actually,
at
that
point
it
comes
down.
I
think
it
services,
the
dcr
development
there's
actually
another
terminus
or
termination
of
that
line
about
420
meters.
Those
are
shown
in
the
two
orange
strings
that
you
can
see
on
that
exhibit
when
you
consider
it
on
its
merits.
You
know
water
is
on
the
doorstep.
S
It
will
keep
court
probably
warrants,
maybe
a
higher
servicing
score
on
that
on
that
metric.
Looking
at
the
transit
and
transportation
servicing
infrastructure,
we
accept
the
o'keeffe
courtlands
are
beyond
the
1.9
meter,
radius
of
a
1.9
kilometer
radius
of
a
transit
station.
That's
fairly
binary
either
interrupt,
however,
within
700
meters
at
city
gate
there
exists,
weekday,
am
pm
peak
hour,
bus
service
to
and
from
fallow
via,
transit
station
or
transitway.
That
provides
the
kind
of
regional
and
transit
accessibility.
S
S
We
believe
the
relative,
close
proximity
of
o'keefe,
core
property
facilities,
weren't
some
consideration
for
an
allocation
of
points
in
favor
of
eok
plans.
Existing
highway
interchange,
which
is
often
overlooked,
also
supports
the
the
land
use
designation
that
provides
regional
and
province
wide
access
to
access
to
the
province
or
to
the
to
the
property
in
terms
of
community
integration.
The
yoki
property
is
situated
on
the
north
boundary
of
a
developing
employment
area
or
employment
area
to
the
immediate
south
represents
a
logical
extension
of
the
employment
area.
M
Thanks
and
and
part
of
it
is
just
to
let
staff
know
that
when
it
comes
time
for
question,
I
will
be
asking
more
questions
about
the
rejection
of
this
particular
parcel.
It
does
seem
like
a
relatively
efficient
way
to
connect
to
the
existing
services,
but
andrew
I've
forgotten.
You
did
come
in
to
see
me
about
this
project.
Had
you
made
the
same
offer
with
oc
transport
offsets
some
of
the
operating
costs
of
extending
say
that
amp
and
peak
service
we've.
S
S
Had
those
conversations
with
them,
but
speaking
with
brian-
and
I
know
that
that
is
something
that
we
would
be
happy
to
engage
those
conversations.
We've
done
something
similar
we're
about
to
do
something
similar
with
them
on
another
project.
A
T
Good
morning,
council
and
committee
on
honorable
chairs,
I
very
much
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
again.
T
I
hope
you're
not
getting
tired
of
my
face
I'll,
try
and
be
quick
here,
I'm
obviously
extremely
tied
to
this
and
the
outcome
and
everything
that
that's
going
on,
and
I
I'm
living
living
at
being
a
real
estate
agent,
owning
a
real
estate
company,
so
I'll
just
start
off
as
chair
of
the
bar
haven
bia,
my
name
is
jason
mcdonald
and
I
have
the
the
fortune
of
being
the
chair
of
the
bargain
business
improvement
area
supporting
a
little
over
530
businesses.
T
Last
year
I
addressed
the
joint
committees
of
planning
and
agricultural
and
rural
affairs
and,
as
chair
of
the
bia,
I
was
pleased
to
support
the
recommendations
made
by
staff.
The
follow-up
to
that
meeting
is
the
one.
Is
this
one?
The
growth
management
report,
specifically
the
lands
recommended
by
staff
to
respond
to
council's
decision
to
expand
much
needed
expansion
to
the
urban
boundary?
Today,
I'm
again
pleased
to
support
the
majority
of
the
proposed
expansion
lands.
I
think
that
the
staff
have
done
a
fairly
good
job
in
their
observations
and
recommendations.
T
We
know
that
decades
ago,
government
decided
to
expand
ottawa
by
building
three
satellite
communities
outside
of
the
green
belt,
one
in
the
west,
one
in
the
east
and
one
in
the
south.
We
call
these
obviously
bar
haven
riverside
south
orleans
and
canada
stittsville.
We
did
well
it's
a
good
decision
and
we
now
need
to
enhance
these
communities.
T
Much
has
changed
since
my
last
presentation
to
you.
The
world
has
changed.
Last
may
we
were
a
month
and
a
half
into
covet
19
territory,
and
while
we
were
in
while
we
were
locked
down
and
only
learning
of
how
difficult
and
deadly
this
virus
would
be,
we
had
no
way
of
understanding
the
pressures
we
would
now
face.
Now
we
know-
and
I'm
switching
hats
here
to
speak
to
you
as
jason
mcdonald,
owner
of
the
mcdonald
property
group,
with
re
max
hallmark.
T
I've
sold
thousands
of
homes
in
the
ottawa
area,
I'm
very,
very
active,
have
a
large
team
and
I'm
nationally
and
internationally
ranked.
So
I
feel
immensely
qualified
to
comment
on
this.
As
I
live
this
on
a
daily
basis,
the
threat
to
affordable
housing
has
passed,
it's
gone,
it's
no
longer
a
threat.
Affordable
housing
is
gone
in
ottawa.
Typically,
we
as
ottawa
have
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer.
T
We
have
about
a
four
to
six
year,
lead
time
on
what's
occurring
in
toronto,
that
lead
time
is
shrinking
and
shrinking
rapidly
rapidly,
especially
since
we
hit
critical
mass
of
being
a
metropolis
of
over
a
million
people,
it's
sort
of
the
domino
effect,
the
the
buffer
that
we
had
between
automarkets
and
toronto
markets.
It's
it
hasn't,
disappeared
completely,
but
it
is
shortened
drastically
the
number
of
clients
and
and
customers
that
I'm
dealing
with
from
montreal
toronto,
vancouver
calgary,
is
staggering
in
the
past
two
years
and
that's
not
an
exaggeration.
T
Not
only
is
inventory
unaffordable,
it's
absolutely
absent.
Let
me
give
you
a
few
examples
in
terms
of
some
of
the
recent
projects
that
have
come
up
in
bar
haven
and
elsewhere,
fox
run,
27
lots
available,
3
000
people
registered
to
buy
sold
out
in
15
minutes
would
have
sold
out
in
one
minute
if
technology
would
have
afforded
it
bar
haven.
24
lots
available.
T
1800
registered
sold
out
in
15
minutes
again
technology
limited
how
quickly
that
sold
out
the
number
of
units
for
rent
in
ottawa,
and
I-
and
I
hope
that
you'll,
ask
me
some
questions
in
regards
to
this
total
properties
available
this
morning
for
the
entire
entire
ottawa
board.
That
includes
renfrew.
To
crown
to
cornwall.
It
includes
places
such
as
carlton
place,
kempville
et
cetera,
down
to
brockville
area
is
1800
properties.
That
includes
that's
residential.
That
includes
rentals
townhouses,
condos
single-family
homes,
trailer
homes
and
vacant
land.
T
What's
happened
with
covid
is
an
event
and
it
will
pass
it
will
pass
for
sure,
but
it's
changed
all
of
our
thinking
before
when
a
pool
was
net
neutral,
a
pool
is
now
a
priority,
a
home,
a
main
floor
office
space
is
now
a
priority,
but
more
so
sleep
is
a
priority.
I'm
a
dad.
T
I've
got
to
prepare
for
two
several
things
now,
not
only
for
my
children's
university,
my
two
girls
university
and
hopefully
their
two
marriages,
but
now
I
also
have
to
try
and
figure
out
a
way
to
provide
them
with
some
level
of
housing
quickly.
Average
townhouse
prices
for
this
year
officially
as
of
right
now,
is
571
thousand
I'm
going
to
use
barham,
as
example,
because
it's
an
equivalent
area
to
riverside
south
orleans
and
canada.
These
are
all
transferable
networks.
T
Whenever
we're
selling
these
homes,
571
with
a
high
price
of
692
000
for
a
three-bedroom
townhouse
single-family
homes
have
increased
to
797.
That
is
the
average
price
the
high
price
is
now.
1.1
million
condos
have
gone
from
404
000
to
521
000.,
since
2018
you've
seen
growth
in
in
terms
of
pricing
in
areas
of
anywhere
from
50
to
66,
so
and
and
here's
the
big
thing
right
now
of
those
1800
properties
that
are
available.
Sorry.
A
So
jason,
I
don't
see
anybody
with
their
hands
up,
which
I'm
either
they're
stunned
by
your
facts,
or
they
don't
have
any
questions,
but
you
were.
You
were
okay,
but
I
I
just
have
a
question
about
because
you've
told
me
this
before
as
a
dad
of
two
little
girls
when
you
look
at
their
future.
What
are
you
doing
about
it
now,
after
having
spoken
about
the
cost
of
housing,
etc?
What
do
you,
what
three
things
are
you
saving
for.
K
T
T
The
problem
with
that
is
that
the
acquisition
cost
of
a
property
to
then
be
able
to
rent
has
far
exceeded
it.
So
really
I'm
going
to
be
trying
to
make
wise
investments
to
build
up
as
large
a
position
in
terms
of
a
deposit
as
possible,
and
then
I
know
that
I'll
have
to
be
leveraging
off
of
my
equity
positions
and
the
existing
properties
that
I
have.
T
So
when
it
comes
time
for
my
children,
I
will
have
to
borrow
money
from
the
equity
that
I've
built
in
the
current
properties
that
I
own
in
order
to
help
them,
and
it
won't
be
because
of
a
lack
of
effort
from
their
behalf,
because
I'm
not
a
there's,
no
sugar
daddy.
Here
I
can
assure
you
it
will
be
because
of
necessity
they
will
be
responsible.
T
I
know
that
you
know
because
they'll
take
after
their
mother
they're,
going
to
have
good
jobs,
they're
going
to
be
contributors
to
society,
but
in
order
for
them
to
have
a
roof
over
their
head,
we're
going
to
have
to
start
thinking,
dr.
You
know
it's
pretty
drastic
measures
and
it's
going
to
impact
my
wife
and
I
future.
You
know
future
retirement
plans
currently
right
now.
Jana
the
1800
properties
that
are
available
for,
for
you
know
active
on
the
market.
Over
700
of
them
are
rentals.
T
We
have
a
rental
explosion,
that's
occurred
in
ottawa
as
of
late,
and
that's
due
to
economics.
It's
due
to
the
situation
that's
going
on
and
the
price
value
the
value
of
prices
you
know
of
their
homes
going
up,
so
we
have
an
awful
lot
of
investment
coming
from
all
over
the
place.
The
word
is
out.
Ottawa
is
a
phenomenal
city,
great
quality
of
life
and
a
phenomenal
area
to
invest
and
we've
had
depreciated
values
compared
to
the
rest
of
canada
for
easily
over
five
plus
years.
T
But
this
is
a
big
shift
and
when
you,
council
and
committee
needs
to
really
take
a
look
at
the
big
picture
here,
the
number
of
purpose-built
rentals
that
you
have
coming
on
the
market
in
the
next
two
to
three
years
is
substantial
housing
crisis.
From
that
perspective,
in
terms
of
available,
rentals
will
not
be
an
issue
owning
a
property.
That's
going
to
be
an
issue,
and,
as
this
continues
to
go,
it's
a
compounding
effect.
It's
not
going
to
get
better.
It's
only
going
to
get
worse,
and
there
are
many
many
examples
of
that.
T
Toronto
would
be
one
of
the
best
ones
most
recently
approximately
four
years
ago,
housing
market
depreciated
by
over
25
percent.
It
lasted
a
year.
The
the
fundamentals.
Are
there,
it's
everybody's
dream
to
own
a
property
and
for
a
council
or
committee
to
think
that
they
can
dictate
how
I
choose
or
where
I
choose
to
raise.
My
family
is
naive.
T
O
A
Yeah
because
I
mean
you
know
so
much
about
this
stuff,
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor,
caroline
mian,
who
you
know
quite
well
as
well.
P
Thank
you
so
jason.
If
I
understand
you
correctly,
we
we
don't
have
the
inventory
right
now
to
accommodate
all
the
people
who
want
to
come
into
town,
and
are
you
saying
that
we're
on
the
wrong
track
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
intensification
and
people,
don't
want
that
they
want
their
own
little
plot
of
land
with
the
pool?
Is
that
I
do
carol?
I
mean.
T
Honestly,
I
do
and
and
listen
the
city
as
it,
because
it's
a
metropolis
it
will
evolve
by
on
its
own
merits,
as
the
population
continues
to
grow
and
as
we
have
phenomenal
resources
and
employment
opportunities
such
as
the
amazon
warehouse
cut,
you
know
coming
in
distribution
center,
I
mean
that's
a
technology
hub,
it's
it's.
When
you
build
petrol,
canada
esso
wants
to
be
across
from
them.
This
is
the
same
thing.
That's
happening
with
with
amazon
and
without
question
you.
T
You
will
not
be
able
to
force
individuals
into
a
condo,
let
alone
the
cost
of
condos,
as
I've
just
pointed
out,
is
equivalent
because
don't
don't
forget
that
with
a
condo
there's,
not
just
the
purchase
price,
there's
the
monthly
condo
fee,
where
you're
paying
for
the
common
elements
and
other
features
well.
The
monthly
condo
fee
on
average
is
well
over
350
dollars
a
month
carol.
Anne
you're
on
mute,
caroline.
P
T
All
right
and
absolutely
caroline
the
price
of
homes
right
now
in
kempville,
carlton
place
and
the
other
outlying
areas
is
the
equivalent
to
what
it
is
in
suburban
ottawa.
I
mean
we're
as
agents
we're
and
real
estate
realtors
we're
staggered
that
a
townhouse
in
kempville
is
is
priced
over
450
000
or
more
the
same
as
it
is
in
canada
and
just
because
it's
priced
at
450.
Let
me
assure
you
it's
not
going
to
sell
at
that.
It
will
sell
at
550
or
more
so
you're
losing
a
majority
of
your
tax
base.
T
P
Thanks
jason,
no,
I
think
we
we've
been
faced
with
that
for
for
quite
some
time,
but
I
appreciate
you
reiterating
it
today.
Thanks.
D
Is
you
can
imagine
we're
all
talking?
Thank
you
counselor
me
and,
and
jason
you
touched
on
something
really.
I
think
it's
hurtful
to
all
of
us,
especially
the
counselors
whose
area
boundary
by
that
empire,
like
myself
in
almond
and
carlton
place
and
all
that
area,
and
we
see
their
growth
and
but
my
question
to
you,
you
wouldn't
be
surprised,
then,
if
we
have
not
added
sufficient
land
now,
like
I
mean
from
what
I'm
hearing
you're
saying,
you
haven't.
T
T
Of
carp,
where
I
was
a
volunteer
firefighter
for
eight
and
a
half
years,
it
is
not
the
same.
You
know
when
the
flower
mill
burnt
down,
we
were
dealing
with
farm
houses,
not
you
know:
3
000
square
foot,
beautiful
homes
built
by
monarch
homes.
You
know
this,
I'm
petrified
of
your
gold
belt.
I
think
you
would
be
catastrophic
to
the
city,
but
that's
a
personal
opinion
and
eli.
At
the
same
time,
I
support
the
protection
of
agricultural
lands
being
a
farm
boy.
I
do
but
I
think,
creating
another
secondary
green
belt
in
our
city.
A
D
D
Okay,
so
much
jason
for
coming
out
and
speak
to
us.
Our
next
speaker
is
no
stranger
to
us.
I
I
So
just
as
an
introduction,
my
name
is
paul
hicks
and
I'm
an
urban
planner
with
republic
urbanism
and
I'm
speaking
this
morning
on
behalf
of
avenue
31.,
I'm
also
joined
this
morning
by
michelle
p
young,
who
is
the
president
and
ceo
of
avenue,
31
who's
also
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
committee
may
have.
I
We've
had
the
opportunity
to
review
the
city's
industrial
and
logistics
land
supply
strategy
and
we're
making
this
presentation
to
supplement
the
written
submission
that
we
provided
to
committee
members
last
week,
in
addition
to
the
general
feedback
and
input
we
provided
to
the
city.
The
focus
of
my
comments
this
morning
concerns
specific
lands
located
adjacent
to
fallow
field
and
the
416
interchange
along
moody,
drive
and
melody.
I
If
we
could
go
to
the
second
slide,
please,
after
reviewing
the
strategy
that
the
city
had
prepared,
we
wanted
to
share
with
committee
some
of
our
thoughts
around
the
direction
of
the
documents.
Specifically
as
they
relate
to
large
industrial
and
logistics,
operation,
operational
needs
and
the
lack
of
land
identified
in
the
city
to
supply
these
operations,
I
recognize
that
the
city
conducted
a
very
extensive
analysis
of
the
the
vacant
land
supply
and
and
future
needs.
I
I
Essentially,
these
large
logistic
and
industrial
users
are
looking
for
large
parcels
that
are
over
20
to
two
to
40
hectares
in
size
or
50
to
100
acres
in
size,
they're,
also
looking
for
locations
on
400
series
interchanges
and
when
I
say
locations
on
400
series
interchanges,
I
do
mean
that
within
one
kilometer
or
less
of
a
400
series,
interchanges
looking
for
access
to
infrastructure,
particularly
three-phase
hydro
and
natural
gas,
as
these,
these
lands
can
develop
on
both
private
and
public
services,
the
proximity
to
an
employee
base
and
and
what
they
call
in
the
industry.
I
The
last
mile,
which
I
I
think
most
committee
members,
are
familiar
with
that
terminology
in
the
logistics
world,
they're
also
looking
for
buffering
between
residential
uses
for
18
to
24-hour
trucking
operations
and
additionally
flat
sites
with
solid
base
for
slab
on
grade
construction.
Now
that
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
see
these
needs
borne
out
in
the
most
recent
industrial
development
in
ottawa,
including
amazon's.
I
Two
recent
investments,
as
well
as
the
national
capital
business
park
on
russell
road
which
avenue
31,
has
developed
in
conjunction
with
the
ncc
and
again,
I
think
it's
quite
obvious,
and
you
can
see
these
operational
requirements
borne
out,
that
we
are
right
on
400
series
interchanges
on
large
parcels
well
in
excess
of
50
acres.
Each.
We
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
I
The
toronto
region
and
the
eastern
417,
which
is
accessing
the
montreal
region
from
our
analysis
for
the
next
25
years
for
a
25-year
land
supply
we
would
put
we
would
put
for,
particularly
in
light
of
the
development
activity
that
we've
seen
in
other
regions-
and
I
highlighted
this
in
the
written
submission
to
committee
members
that
we
believe
this
would
be
insufficient.
The
city's
needs
over
the
next
25
years
and
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide
to
that
end,
avenue
31
has
made
two
previous
submissions
to
city
staff.
I
If
we
could
go
to
the
next,
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
these
lands
could
could
potentially
hold
a
one
million
one
one
million
square
foot
facility
or
two
to
three
three
hundred
thousand
square
foot
facilities
in
this
range
and
you'll
see
you'll
see
the
you'll,
see
some
aerial
shots
here.
Some
some
perspective
shots
on
on
where
these,
where
the
lands
are
located
in
relation
to
the
interchange
and
the
new
amazon
facility.
I
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
as
I'm
wrapping
up,
we
are
seeking
with
regards
to
our
submission,
we
are
seeking
a
requested
rural
infrastructure,
rural
industrial
freight
and
storage
designation
to
be
extended
down
from
the
existing
node.
This
is
a
composite
map
of
the
op,
showing
this
entire
employment
node,
which
straddles
both
the
urban
and
the
the
rural
areas
of
the
city,
and
if
we
could
go
to
the
very
last
slide
with
that,
I
I'd
like
to
take
the
pardon
me
with
that.
I
I'd
like
to
thank
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
matter
this
morning.
I
believe
that
our
our
our
submission
and
our
request
is
quite
reasonable-
that
we're
available
to
answer
any
questions
and
we're.
B
I
To
to.
I
M
I
M
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
what
have
city
staff
told
you
about
the
inclusion
of
that
parcel
and
why
it's
not
in
here.
I
So
the
the
the
parcels
were
analyzed
in
in
the
strategy
that
was
prepared
by
city
staff,
and
it
would
I
I
won't
speak
on
behalf
of
city
staff
or
put
words
in
their
mouth,
but
it
would
be
my
interpretation
that
it
did
get
a
fairly
fairly
favorable
review
or
analysis
by
city
staff,
but
that
analysis
ended
quite
quickly
because
the
lands
are
currently
designated
as
as
agricultural
resource
in
the
in
the
in
the
industry.
I
Pardon
me
in
the
in
the
city's
official
plan
so
with
that
the
the
city
staff
ended
their
analysis
of
them.
Notwithstanding
that
we've
undertaken
an
agricultural
impact
assessment
on
a
portion
of
the
lands
or
the
portion
of
the
lands
that
avenue
31
owns
right
now,
which
demonstrates
the
lear
score
for
these
lands.
Is,
is
well
below
the
threshold
that
the
city
has
and
that
we
could
contemplate
a
redesignation
of
these
lands,
specifically
for
industrial
or
employment
purposes.
A
Thank
you.
That's
it
for
questions.
I'm
sure
that
we'll
have
this
back
up
talking
about
it
some
more
tomorrow.
Thank
you.
Next
up
is
danny
page
and
followed
by
sean
hamilton,
murray,
chown
and
stephanie
morris
danny.
You
have
five
minutes.
Welcome.
A
J
A
Yes,
before
before
you
before,
you
start
so
we're
not
starting
your
time.
I
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
that
counselor
will
chair.
Al
shantiri
has
left
the
meeting
he
because
he
is
the
vice
chair
of
the
rural
ontario
association
and
they
have
a
conference
right
now
and
he's
doing
a
presentation.
A
I
think
on
floods,
which
he
is
abs,
certainly
aptly
ready
to
do
so
he's
going
to
be
gone
for
about
an
hour,
but
I
also
wanted
to
tell
everybody
that
we're
going
to
break
for
break
for
a
lunch
break
for
half
an
hour
at
12.
30..
Sorry
about
that
danny.
J
I
am
appearing
before
you
today
on
behalf
of
vailcraft
homes
2019,
and
we
have
an
interest
in
a
parcel
of
property
at
255
wall
road,
which
is
in
the
village
of
notre
dame
deschamps,
and
our
concern
is
that
this
village
has
been
overlooked
in
this
growth
strategy
that
is
before
you
today,
and
I
believe
that
the
village
has
been
overlooked
because
it
doesn't
neatly
fit
into
the
urban
and
rural
paradigm
that
seems
to
prevail,
and
it
it
just
doesn't
simply
fit
in
very
neatly,
and
I
think
that
natalene
de
shaw
is
a
very
unusual
village
because
it
happens
to
be
surrounded
by
the
urban
boundary
on
three
sides
and
it's
partially
serviced
by
by
public
water.
J
J
The
may
2020
report
that
staff
brought
forward
actually
suggested
that
they
would
be
looking
at
this
transition
area
and
looking
at
potentially
adjusting
the
boundary
within
this
area
and
that
didn't
appear
to
occur
in
the
draft
official
plan.
Nor
did
it
occur
within
this
growth
management
report
now
you're,
probably
asking.
Why
is
this
important
to
us?
It's
important
to
us,
because
we
have
a
specific
property
within
the
urban
bound
within
the
village
of
notre
dame
deschamps.
J
It
runs
against
the
five
big
moves
that
are
being
put
forward
as
part
of
this
official
plan
exercise
and
I'd
also
add
that
it's
vacant
status,
30
vacant
acres
within
the
village
divides
the
village,
and
it
certainly
will
also
divide
the
urban
sections
as
they
come
on
board
in
the
next
few
years
and
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
merit
to
being
able
to
develop
the
lens
in
a
smart
way.
Now
these
lands
haven't
developed
over
the
last
30
years
because
it's
simply
not
viable
to
do
so
to
develop.
J
The
lens
requires
pipe
water
and
storm
sewers
which
we're
currently
allowed
to
have,
but
it's
simply
not
viable.
Unless
stores
are
sanitary,
sewers
are
permitted
within
this
area
and
in
essence,
the
introduction
of
sanitary
sewer
makes
all
of
the
sewers
or
all
of
the
pipe
services
more
efficient.
J
Now
I'm
not
here
to
suggest
that
these
lands
should
become
part
of
the
category
one
lens.
I
understand
they
weren't
even
evaluated
for
urban
consideration,
but
what
I
am
telling
you
is,
we
have
a
real
anomaly
here
in
terms
of
the
interface
between
urban
and
rural
and
I'm
here
to
ask
that
you
direct
staff
to
explore
the
feasibility
of
notre
dame
deschamps
being
a
service
village.
E
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
Danny
very
much
appreciate
your
perspective
of
the
ndc
lands,
and
I
know
that
when
I
saw
that
staff
had
considered
it
as
part
of
the
category
two
lands,
it
was
of
great
interest.
E
One
of
the
the
concerns
that
was
identified
in
incorporating
these
lands
was
not
just
the
sanitary
sewers,
but
also
the
lack
of
transportation
infrastructure,
primarily
the
road
networks.
The
east
end
has
been
waiting
for
a
very
long
time
and
will
continue
to
wait
for
a
while
for
the
cumberland
way
to
be
in
place.
A
lot
of
the
developments
that
happen
in
the
east
end,
particularly
south
orleans
and
notre
dame
area
always
refer
to
the
existence
of
this
brt,
we're
nowhere
near
getting
that
brt.
E
What
I'm
wondering
from
your
perspective
is
you're
you're,
advocating
for
the
inclusions
of
these
lands.
What,
where
is
the
answer?
The
solution
to
the
infrastructure,
the
road
infrastructure
when
we're
facing
these
struggles,
with
only
in
this
road
being
a
main
conduit?
All
linking
into
a
pinch
point,
which
is
the
bypass
well.
J
What
we
have
is
a
30-acre
parcel
of
land
in
a
very
unique
situation
that
actually
is
dividing
the
community,
and
I
think
that
is
dividing
the
community
because
it
separates
the
north
part
of
of
notre
dame
deshawn
from
the
south
part
of
nothing
and
it
will
separate
the
lands
that
are
going
to
be
coming
on
stream
through
the
community
design
plan.
The
mirror
blue
community
design
plan
on
either
side
of
the
property.
So
we've
got
a
hole
that
that
actually
precludes
people
from
going
back
and
forth
and
making
better
use
of
transit.
J
And
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
there's
probably
a
more
efficient
way
of
providing
buses
going
through
the
neighborhoods
if
our
property
is
brought
on
stream.
And
it's
just
it's
not
it's
not
happening
right
now
and
it
won't
happen.
It
hasn't
happened
for
the
last
30
years
because
of
the
unique
servicing
circumstances
here.
E
But
I
really
am
curious
as
to
how
you
think
you're
going
to
if
these
lands
are
incorporated,
how
you'd
incorporate
not
just
buses
but
the
remaining
car
traffic.
That
would
flow
in
through
quite
literally
renault
road
navin
road
onto
the
bypass,
because
that's
the
only
way
that
they
can
get
anywhere
close
to
downtown
or
to
the
south
end
or
to
the
west
end.
E
J
Well,
I
I
certainly
agree
with
you
that
that
you
know
the
solution
lies
in
in
promoting
bus,
rapid
transit.
There
is
a
transit
way
to
the
north
and
in
the
on
an
interim
basis.
What
would
happen
is
that
we
want
to
facilitate
people
walking
and
getting
to
the
bus,
and
you
know
I'm.
I
guess
I'm
looking
at
it,
and
I'm
saying
I
don't
think
half
acre
lots
is
is
a
very
conducive
manner
of
facilitating
bus
usage.
A
Thank
you,
I
don't
see
any
more
hands.
So
thank
you
very
much
danny
for
coming
out
today,
and
I
think
this
will
be
our
last
speaker
before
the
break
and
that
speaker
is
sean
hamilton,
representing
bulma,
the
building
owners
and
managers
association
of
ottawa.
Sean.
Yes,.
J
Hi
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
making
time
for
me
and
I'd
like
to
build
off
of
the
comments
put
forward
by
jason
mcdonald,
but
on
a
commercial
front
and
as
well
as
those
brought
forward
by
paul
hicks
and
the
avenue
31
group
and
speaking,
you
know.
The
largest
asset
class
for
potential
new
development
across
north
america
is
the
need
for
industrial
logistics
support
from
via
distribution
hubs.
J
Now
the
size
and
location
of
our
current
available
lands
and
the
addition
of
the
proposed
new
lands
won't
alleviate
the
industrial
land
shortage
and,
more
importantly,
not
increase
our
competitiveness
to
attract
new
industrial
users.
I'm
happy
to
draw
your
attention
to
a
cbre
study
that
outlines
how
ottawa
is
under
service
from
an
industrial
perspective,
but
yet
geographically,
we
are
in
a
desirable
location
to
service
the
new
e-commerce
economy.
J
If
we
want
to
attract
these
new
economy,
industrial
users,
we
need
a
land
of
sufficient
size
and
location.
The
recommendations
put
forward
provide
neither
while
introducing
the
additional
constraint
of
permanently
restricting
the
re-designation
of
agricultural
land.
You
know
right
now.
At
present,
large-scale
large-scale
users
have
few
options
and
many
are
looking
to
locate
along
the
401
corridor
outside
the
city
boundaries
and,
as
a
result,
the
city
loses
development
fees
and
increased
tax
base,
as
well
as
employment.
J
We'd
recommend
to
council
that
industrial
zones
run
along
highway,
416
and
17
at
a
width
of
about
a
kilometer
and
a
half
on
each
side,
allowing
for
an
exciting
available
land
supply
for
industrial
users,
a
corridor
that
allows
for
a
linking
of
municipal
services
aligning
with
the
aspects
of
the
city's
five
bold
moves
and
the
preservation
of
ottawa's
rural
and
agricultural
heritage.
J
You
know
we
must
remember
that
ottawa
has
a
land
area
that
is
greater
than
toronto,
vancouver
edmonton
calgary
and
montreal
combined,
but
they
serve
as
a
population
seven
times
of
our
own.
You
know
with
this
much
land
and
over
1300
farms.
It's
conceivable
that
a
less
binary
approach
can
be
taken
as
it
pertains
to
farmland
without
impacting
our
rural
heritage.
J
Ottawa
does
not
have
a
food
terminal,
and
much
of
our
produce
that
is
produced
leaves
to
go
to
toronto.
Only
to
come
back
to
ottawa,
adding
further
environmental
stress,
ironically,
should
ottawa
wish
to
add
a
large-scale
food
terminal,
there's
no
land
that
would
really
be
suitable,
which
is
the
example
of
self-defeating
policies
that
we're
hoping
to
avoid.
J
A
J
J
Our
suggestions
to
the
group
today
are
as
follows:
create
corridors
along
416
and
417
that
allow
for
industrial
redevelopment.
If
and
when
needed
review
the
lands
being
proposed
for
the
tids
and
the
rids.
I
might
have
got
that
wrong,
but
traditional
industrial
or
rural
industrial,
as
they
will
not
add
to
our
competitiveness
in
any
way.
J
C
Thanks
story:
it's
not
a
question:
it's
just
just
food
is
speaking
there
at
the
end
of
this
list.
They
would
probably
take
exception
to
your
inclusion
of
them
in
in
your
presentation
as
evidence
that
we
should
cut
a
two
kilometer
swath
through
agricultural
land,
on
along
the
416
corridor.
That
runs
right
through
ward
21,
along
primary
cultural
land
at
bank
field
and
private
cultural
land
and
roger
stevens
drive.
I
guarantee
just
food
would
not
advocate
for
such
a
designation
change.
Thank
you.
A
But
I'm
sure
that
counselor
moffat
will
probably
raise
that
with
them
whenever
we
have
them
before
us.
Thank
you,
sean.
We
don't
have
anyone
else
to
speak.
I
just
will
say
that
I
do
recall
when
I
was
a
when
I
was
a
buyer
for
many
years
that
both
national
and
loeb
had
warehouses
here
for
produce
and
giant
tiger
had
their
warehouse
here
and
they
built
a
massive
one
down
at
the
end
of
the
416
and
401.
A
So
we
may
be
a
desert
with
regard
to
those
warehouses
now,
but
in
the
old
days
we
sure
had
them,
but
thank
you
for
coming
out
today,
sir
thanks
a
lot
everybody
we
are
going
to
break
for
lunch.
It
is
currently
12
28,
so
we'll
be
back
at
one
o'clock
and
the
next
step
will
be
murray.
Chown,
followed
by
stephanie
morris,
followed
by
alex
cullen
followed
by
murray
chown,
see
you.