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Special Joint Meeting of the Planning Committee and the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee - Monday, January 25, 2021
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
B
A
C
A
C
C
My
concern
is
that
the
description
of
the
gold
belt
in
the
staff
report,
and
specifically
on
page
43,
sets
out
what
that
gold
belt
would
be,
and
I
certainly
have
issues
with
that.
The
paragraph
states
that,
within
the
gold
belt,
the
intent
of
the
policies
will
be
to
sustain
or
enhance
agricultural
operations
in
a
variety
of
scales,
enhance
green
space
networks
and
that
goes
on
to
say,
prohibit
further
development,
except
for
agricultural
severances
and
mineral
aggregate
extraction
and
encourage
social,
environmental
and
cultural
uses.
C
It
at
least
acknowledges
that
we
can
establish
and
expand
pits
and
quarries,
but
there's
no
recognition
of
the
rights
to
develop
grandfathered
country
lot.
Subdivisions
within
the
gold
belt
there's
no
recognition
of
the
ability
to
develop
designated
rural
employment
areas
that
fall
within
the
proposed
gold
belt
and
it
eliminates
or
purports
to
eliminate
opportunities
to
expand
or
designate.
C
C
It's
not
my
understanding
that
the
gold
belt
is
intended
to
prohibit
those
other
forms
of
rural
development
from
taking
place
as
presently
permitted
in
the
official
plan
and
would
be
permitted
under
some
of
the
policies
that
are
set
out
in
your
draft
official
plan.
I
raise
that
for
the
committee's
consideration
and
look
forward
to
a
staff
response.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
D
If
we
need
to
grow
over
the
next
80
years,
we
don't
need
to
grow
into
these
lands.
It
is
not
a
new
policy
that
would
then
say
we're
changing
the
destination
of
these
lands
or
adding
further
restriction
to
these
lands
in
particular
they're.
You
know
no
intention
to
bring
forward
a
policy
piece
that
changes
anything
with
regard
to
those
lands
that
are
within
that
within
that
gold
belt.
D
Certainly,
I
think,
as
a
part
of
the
the
final
official
plan
that
comes
forward
in
the
fall
make
sure
that
we
have
that
clarity
out
there,
so
that
residents
and
yourself
and
and
clients
that
you
might
have
will
certainly
get
that
clarity
they're.
Looking
for
because
I
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
about
stuff
like
this,
but
I
cultural
protection.
D
It
comes
up
a
lot
in
emails
with
landowners
and
various
folks
that
are
going
to
probably
speak
here
today,
but
certainly
there's
no
intent
here
to
create
a
new
policy,
a
new
restrictive
policy
on
on
rural
lands.
Within
this
area.
It's
really
just
meant
to
say
we
can
grow
in
the
future,
but
we
don't
have
to
grow
under
the
lands
that
we've
identified
as
aggregates
or
agricultural
or
rural
natural
features.
E
F
It
means
how
prescriptive
it
is,
and
just
the
fact
that
the
duration
of
the
79
years,
how
how
will
that,
if
it
does,
it
all,
tie
the
hands
of
future
councils
future
residents
development
infrastructure.
So
I
do
have
a
direction
that
is
coming
forward.
I've
worked
very
closely
with
steve
willis
and
his
amazing
team
to
really
bring
those
details
forward
when
they
come
back
with
the
official
plan
report
and,
I
believe,
that's
coming
forward
in
june.
F
B
A
F
Good
afternoon
my
name's
stephanie
morris
and
as
the
chair
indicated,
I'm
a
senior
land
use
planner
with
the
department
of
national
defense
d
d
has
reviewed
the
growth
management
report
and
we
support
the
recommendation
to
exclude
the
land's
amusingly
known
as
1225
march
valley,
road
from
the
urban
boundary.
These
lands
are
within
the
south
march
area
that
was
discussed
this
morning.
F
Noise
activities
may
occur
simultaneously
and
are
generally
permitted
to
occur
between
7
30
a.m
and
11
p.m.
However,
activities
can
proceed
further
into
the
nighttime
hours
if
prior
d
d
permission
is
provided,
the
development
of
these
lands
was
previously
considered
in
an
ontario
municipal
board.
Hearing
of
opa
76,
the
board
accepted
the
evidence
provided
by
the
city
acoustic
engineer
that
noise
levels
are
significant
and
will
substantially
exceed
provincial
guidelines
in
a
manner
that
would
be
difficult
or
even
impossible
to
mitigate.
F
F
But
I
do
know
that
the
report
offers
a
different
conclusion
than
what
was
accepted
by
the
the
board
in
the
appeal
of
opa
76
and
appears
to
rely
on
class
4
criteria
which,
based
on
my
understanding,
has
not
been
approved
by
council.
For
the
lance,
in
addition
to
the
noise
concerns,
d
also
has
traffic
and
overlook
concerns.
F
However,
the
strength
of
the
noise
concerns
and
potential
impacts
to
residents
must
be
considered
by
the
committee
if
there
is
any
intent
to
further
consider
residential
development
of
these
lands,
particularly
given
that
there
are
more
other,
more
viable
areas
which
can
accommodate
the
growth
requirements.
Thank
you.
G
I
thought
the
dnt.
They
don't
use
that
area
for
explosion
anymore
they're
using
they.
I
don't
want
to
use
wear,
but
some
you
know
abandoned
core
is
in
my
world
and
my
knowledge
will
always
authorize
them
to
use
it
in
those
areas,
because
we
want
to
avoid
those
loud
explosions
from
colin
and
so,
and
I
really
say
now
you
use
that
so,
which
one
is
it
because
I
thought
all
along.
You
are
using
our
course
in
the
room.
A
A
H
Yes,
except
you
can't
swim
in
the
water
is
too
cold.
It's
all
glacial
fed.
So,
but
we'll
talk
later
about
that,
so
folks,
thank
you
for
having
me.
My
name
is
alex
cullen.
I'm
here
representing
the
federation
of
citizens
associations
to
speak
to
the
staff
report
on
lands
being
proposed
for
residential
and
industrial
urban
expansion.
H
You
may
recall
last
may
the
fca
spoke
at
city
planning
committee
in
opposition
to
the
proposed
expansion
of
the
city's
urban
boundary.
We
were
and
are
prepared
to
accept
more
intensification
as
a
means
of
accommodating
the
future
growth
of
our
city.
We
opposed
expansion
of
the
city's
urban
boundary
as
the
alternative,
based
on
our
concerns
over
the
cost
of
urban
sprawl
and
the
negative
impact
this
would
have
on
our
environment,
both
natural
and
urban.
H
I
think
many
of
you
were
surprised
at
the
time
at
the
fca's
position
supporting
intensification.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
our
member
associations
recognize
that
there
is
good
intensification
and
there
is
bad
intensification.
Much
of
our
city
has
grown
over
the
years
through
intensification
and
good
intensification
can
occur
without
causing
a
ripple.
This
is
the
intensification
that
fits
within
the
fabric
of
existing
communities
and
has
been
occurring
for
decades.
H
H
However,
last
may
ottawa
city
council
adopted
a
hybrid
approach
to
accommodating
future
growth
in
the
city
in
part
based
on
intensification
and
in
part,
permitting
an
expansion
of
the
urban
boundary
by
1300
hectare
and
directed
staff
to
identify
candidate
locations
for
this
expansion.
The
report
is
before
you
today,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
fca,
to
tell
you
three
things:
one
that
the
fca
reaffirms
his
opposition
to
urban
sprawl,
it's
costly
to
taxpayers,
bad
for
both
the
built
and
natural
environment.
H
We
think
the
decision
to
add
1300
hectares
to
the
city's
urban
area
is
and
was
wrong.
Two.
The
fca
supports
the
proposal
of
a
gold
belt
or
outer
green
belt.
In
this
report,
involving
the
protection
of
agricultural
resource
lands,
aggregate
resource
lands
and
natural
areas
from
future
urban
development,
three,
as
for
the
remaining
270
hectares
of
unassigned
land
for
urban
expansion,
the
fca
is
concerned
about
the
implications
of
establishing
a
new
urban
center
in
the
litrum
east
carlsberg
west
area.
H
That's
option
three,
as
there
is
no
infrastructure
to
accommodate
a
new
committee,
the
size
of
bell's
corners
there.
The
cost
of
providing
servicing
roads
and
rapid
transit,
particularly
lrt,
will
not
be
fully
covered
by
development
charges,
as
you
know,
and
will
have
detrimental
effects
as
more
cars
will
have
to
travel
greater
distances
to
get
to
employment,
shopping,
cultural
and
community
amenities
in
our
city.
A
A
C
Thank
you
for
the
reminder,
madam
chair,
and
I
will
limit
my
comments
to
five
minutes.
I'm
hoping
that
the
members
of
the
joint
committee
have
had
the
opportunity
to
read
our
written
submission
that
was
circulated
on
friday
under
cover
of
an
email
from
my
colleague,
adam
thompson
and
melody.
Thank
you
for
putting
that
up
and
if
you
could
leave
it
up
for
the
course
of
my
presentation,
I'd
appreciate
it.
C
Members
of
the
committee.
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
a
statement
on
page
57
of
the
staff
report
where
it
states
the
existing
supply
of
382
net
hectares,
and
this
is
of
industrial
related
land,
is
within
the
range
of
363
to
507
net
hectares
to
accommodate
the
anticipated
industrial
related
growth
to
2046.
C
staff
are
advising
you
that
the
current
land
supply
falls
within
the
range
of
what
is
what
they
project
to
be
required.
Adding
more
land
obviously
improves
the
supply,
but
it's
not
critical
to
the
supply
of
employment.
Lands
in
the
city
of
ottawa
staff
are
recommending
the
addition
of
a
large
tract
of
land
south
of
the
417
and
east
of
carp
road
to
the
urban
area.
C
These
lands
would
be
accessed
accessed
from
carp
road
at
the
intersection
of
westbrook
road.
You
can
see
illustrated
here
that
land
that
road
coming
east
from
carp
road
that
road
would
provide
access
both
to
the
industrial
lands
to
the
north
and
the
residential
lands
to
the
south.
We
would
urge
committee
to
direct
staff
to
reconsider
these
lands
for
residential
purposes.
A
I
G
F
F
First.
With
regard
to
this
report
that
you
have
before
you,
I
want
to
start
by
commending
staff
for
the
gold
belt
proposal.
I
believe
this
is
an
excellent
recommendation.
It's
most
welcome
and
one
word
hallelujah
enough
said.
I
want
to
spend
my
time
speaking
today
about
the
proposed
category
1
and
category
2
urban
expansion
lands
and
they're
on
the
map
that
melody
has
put
up
before
you
there.
The
category
one
lands
are
in
yellow
on
this
map
and
they're
along
both
sides
of
march
road
and
west
is
old.
Second
line.
F
The
majority
of
this
land
is
already
developed
into
five
rural
estate
subdivisions
with
a
total
of
150
homes.
On
large
lots,
there's
also
saint
isidore's
church
and
the
cemetery,
a
catholic,
elementary
school
and
several
active
farms,
there's
very
little
vacant
land
here
to
develop
any
development
applications
for
this
area
would
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
a
piecemeal
process.
F
F
That
cdp
is
approved
for
3000
homes
serving
eight
thousand
people.
This
would
triple
that.
I
believe
these
category
three
lands
should
not
be
studied
any
further,
and
the
document
three
report
that
you
have
provides
you
with
at
least
five
reasons
to
exclude
them:
they're,
not
contiguous
with
each
other.
You
can
see.
There's
two
separated
parcels
south
on
old
second
line
road,
although
they're,
not
zoned
agricultural,
much
of
this
vacant
land
is
being
actively
farmed.
So
make
no
mistake.
F
These
are,
in
fact
agricultural
lands,
they're
being
farmed
for
hay
crops,
field
crops
and
raising
animals.
A
quick,
google
search
that
you
can
do
will
if
you
look
for
march,
hurst,
road
and
old
second
line
road,
we'll
confirm
this.
For
you,
my
farming
friends
also
tell
me
it's
not
marginal
farmland,
but
it's
rich
clay,
loam.
F
F
It's
marked
as
existing
urban
area
on
the
map
there
at
about
three
o'clock.
It's
now
a
planned
urban
community
with
its
own
cdp.
What
was
area
2,
rich
crafts,
development
off
terry
fox,
wrote
in
huntmar,
is
also
already
draft
approved,
but
think
about
this,
not
one
house
has
been
built
in
either
location
in
10
years.
F
This
clearly
proves
there's
no
demand
for
this
growth
in
the
south
march
canada,
north
area.
I
finally
just
have
to
tell
you
that
south
march
has
taken
one
for
the
team
time.
After
time,
we've
witnessed
the
sprawl
of
canada's
north
growth
into
class,
one
farmland
beautiful
acres
for
decades.
It's
time
to
stay
in
the
further
clerk
of
march.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
judy
and
not
just
for
today,
but
for
always
been
available
and
working
with
us
on
the
neighborhood
15-minute
neighborhood
walk
in
the
village
of
car,
but
if
you
can
put
the
map
back
on,
if
you
don't
mind
so
that
area
in
blue
judy,
the
one
you
make
reference
to,
I
can
assure
you
if
that
to
happen.
That
means
all
the
land.
Beyond
this
all
the
way
to
woodlawn
is
a
general
rule,
so
that
means
you
will
create
larger
than
the
city
of
canada
in
that
area.
G
If
that
to
happen
because
the
rest
of
the
land
beyond
the
blue
map,
you
have
all
the
way
to
woodlawn,
like
all
the
way
up
like
to
that
to
the
northwest
or
west
north
beyond
murphy's
side
or
that's
all
general
rule.
So
I'm
glad
you
brought
attention
to
this
area
and
also
the
former
city
of
canada
zone
and
all
that
land
as
a
as
a
general.
Thank
you
thank
you
judy
for
being
here
today.
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members
for
having
me
this
afternoon.
So
my
name
is
paul.
Johannes,
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
green
space
alliance
of
canada's
capital
and
working
collaboratively
with
many
other
organizations
on
the
people's
official
plan
for
climate
emergency
and
we're
addressing
the
certain
points
in
the
staff
report
regarding
the
selection
of
the
urban
expansion
lands.
B
B
Now,
once
the
if
the
gold
belt
is
in
place
after
the
urban
boundaries
definitively
established
in
this
comprehensive
review,
there
will
remain
gaps
at
you
know
between
the
gold
belt
and
that
urban
boundary
at
various
points
around
the
boundary
and
these
lands.
I
guess
purposely,
will
be
exposed
to
eventual
urban
expansion,
but
we
would
call
on
the
city
to
take
measures
to
really
forced
all
urban
expansion
in
these
gap
plans
until
at
least
2046.
B
we're
looking
to
provide
a
supply
now
out
to
2046
and
while
we're
dealing
with
the
climate
emergency,
you
know
we
can't
forget
the
climate
emergency,
we're
right
in
it,
and
it's
going
to
come
at
us
even
faster
and
and
more
drastically
and
from
now
until
2050.
We
have
to
take
every
measure
we
can
to
protect
ourselves
from
it,
so
we
would
call
on
the
city
to
look
at
measures
to
force
dollar
expansion
into
these
gap
plans
through
until
2046.
B
Now,
regarding
the
the
current
growth
management
plan,
which
is
which
is
not
quite
finished,
there's
still
this
270
hectares
about
25
000
people
that
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
place
yet
and
the
studies
that
are
being
proposed
regarding
the
three
potential
community
new
communities,
anxious
to
see
where
that
goes.
So
we
take
no
position
on
any
of
the
selection
of
lands
or
communities.
B
However,
in
the
staff
report
at
the
for
the
last
meeting
that
set
out
the
ground
rules
for
this
exercise,
it
was
pretty
clear
that
this
situation
was
anticipated
that
maybe
not
enough
lands
would
be
found
and
in
that
event,
there's
a
procedure.
It's
laid
out
in
the
staff
report
which
referred
to
which
says:
should
there
not
be
enough
land
number
one?
We
would
consider
increasing
intensification
levels
to
ensure
that
there's
a
sufficient
supply
of
housing.
It's
not
a
plan
but
of
housing.
For
these
25
000
people
we
haven't
placed
anywhere
inside
the
built-up
area.
B
That's
in
there
as
an
option
option
two
was
do
the
kind
of
exercise
that
is
currently
being
proposed,
look
at
sub-optimal
lands
and
look
at
the
cost
of
bringing
those
lands
in
and
making
the
best
choice
out
of
that
option.
Three
in
the
in
the
staff
report
was
used,
agricultural
lands,
but
that
was
taken
off
the
table
by
council
at
may.
B
It
seems
to
be
just
due
diligence
to
do
the
whole
job,
not
just
like
not
look
at
one
side
only
of
the
equation:
expansion
lands,
look
at
the
other
side,
the
intensification
rate
and
see
okay.
What's
this,
what's
the
smart
thing
to
do
here
to
find
where
we're
going
to
put
these
25
000
people
that
are
projected
to
come
to,
you
know
to
us
from
here
to
2046..
B
So
that's
our
request.
We'd
just
like
to
thank
the
city
for
including
in
the
report
amending
or
making
changes
to
the
site,
alteration
bylaw
and
the
tree
protection
bylaw
to
cover
the
urban
expansion
lands
during
this
process,
so
as
to
avoid
preemptive
clearing
of
those
lands.
Something
we've
been
asking
for
for
a
long
time
and
we're
glad
to
see
it
in
this
in
this
report.
J
As
you
pointed
out
in
previous
submissions.
So
it
seems
to
reason
to
me
that
if
that
is
the
case
that
that
council
shouldn't
eliminate
that
option
that,
if
we're
intensifying
at
a
65
rate
at
a
higher
rate,
why
would
we
go
and
find
additional
lands
that
may
not
be
needed
and
that
this
staff
report
coming
back
for
2026
q4?
Whenever
it
comes
we've?
I
think
the
year
marked
it
for
q4
of
2026
that
that
we
get
that
analysis
and
say
well,
maybe
we
are
intensifying
faster
than
we
anticipated.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
thank
you
for
that
question.
Councilman
yeah.
I
think
that's,
that's
exactly
the
point.
I
think
there
are
really
four
options
here.
There
there's
there's
a
major
one,
which
is:
let's
do
more
expansion
and
exactly
where,
but
equally
possible
and
consistent
with
the
pps
and
consistent
with
previous
council
direction
would
be
not
to
add
any
lands
at
all.
B
J
Okay-
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarity
on
one
of
your
other
points,
if
that's
okay,
madam
chair,
just
my
last
question
to
mr
johannes
here,
it
is,
you
said,
use
the
gap,
areas
between
the
gold
belt
and
the
current
urban
boundary
to
intensify,
rather
than
I
just
wanted
to
see
clarity.
What
you
were
saying
there,
because
I
wasn't
understanding
it.
When
I
look
at
the
goal
belt,
I
see
some
donut
holes
in
there.
I
I
see
areas
that
there
it
appears
that
there
could
be.
J
You
know
further
potential
expansion
in
the
future.
Although
that's
contradictory
to
what
document
one
has
said
in
one
of
the
statements,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
you
were
saying
there
on
your
first
point
about
the
gold
belt
of
where
to
intense
fighting
quite
understand
that.
B
Thank
you
councilman
give
me
an
opportunity
to
clarify
just
that.
Once
the
gold
belt
is
established
and
the
eventual
urban
boundary
clarified
from
this
comprehensive
review,
there
will
be
certain
spots
along
the
urban
boundary
where
there's
a
gap
where
there's
land
that's
not
either
in
the
gold
belt
or
in
the
urban
area.
So
these
are
going
to
be
rural
lands
that
are
going
to
be
exposed
to
urban
expansion.
B
J
B
A
C
C
C
C
So
a
gold
belt
that
we're
talking
about
today
is
intended
to
establish
a
hard
line
between
the
urban
area
and
agricultural
lands
in
the
west.
That
hard
line
will
be
defined
by
fluellen
road,
fern,
bank
road
hope,
side,
road
and
barnesdale
road
and
in
the
east,
by
wall.
Road
and
trim.
Road
here
is
an
opportunity
to
define
that
line
using
rideau
road
arterial,
roads
and
collectors
should
be
used
to
determine
the
boundary
of
the
urban
area.
C
C
Madam
chair
members
of
committee,
I
draw
your
attention
to
page
six
of
document,
one
of
the
staff
report
where
staff
say,
in
addition
to
clustering
parcels
with
appropriate
transit,
distance
and
or
servicing
scores,
which
these
prop
properties
clearly
would
have
scored.
Well,
staff
have
been
delivered
to
ensure
that
the
future
urban
boundary
has
a
coherent
and
rational
delineation.
C
This
is
desirable
because
isolated
parcels
or
irregular
boundary
are
less
efficiently
added
to
the
public
service
area
and
would
also
result
in
an
irregular
mobility
network
that
is
less
likely
to
support
transit
and
15-minute
neighborhoods.
A
rational
urban
boundary
also
helps
to
reinforce
the
separation
between
the
suburban
and
rural
transect
areas.
C
C
I
would
encourage
committee
and
council
to
reconsider
the
direction
given
to
staff
in
may
of
last
year
and
score
these
parcels
and
evaluate
them
in
due
consideration
of
their
accessibility
to
the
lrt
accessibility
to
services
and
accessibility
to
all
of
the
features
planned
and
developed
in
the
riverside
south
community.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
Thanks
murray,
just
a
quick
just
to
compare
it
a
question
I
mean
we
don't
we
don't
necessarily
look
at
these
on
a
you
know,
specific
landowner,
specific
client
perspective.
We
look
at
it
from
the
bigger
picture,
so
you
look
at
these
lands
all
which
score
above
160
in
our
lear,
as
you
know,
because
you're
on
the
working
group,
so
you
know
their
position
as
primary
cultural
lands.
C
D
You
believe
that
they
should
be
scored
higher
because
of
proximity
to
transit.
Now,
let's
look:
let's
go
to
the
to
the
west
end.
Let's
look
at
flue
ellen,
so
we're
proposing
to
come
down
to
flue,
ellen
and
shea
a
lot
of
land
between
shea
and
eagle
centauri
fox
north
of
flewellen.
Now
we
have
robert
grant
right
to
the
north.
C
So
I
anticipated
that
question.
I've
anticipated
that
question
for
many
many
months.
The
difference
here
is
we're
drawing
the
line
in
the
middle
of
a
field.
The
difference
in
the
west
is
the
line
is
clearly
defined
by
a
road
and
crossing
that
road
is
a
major
step
here,
extending
this
community
to
rideau
road
and
then
using
rideau
road
as
the
definition
of
what
would
could
become
that
inside
limit
to
the
gold
belt.
So
rito
road
defines
the
gold
belt
hope
side.
Road
defines
the
gold
belt
flue,
ellen
road
or
fern
bank.
C
A
A
K
K
K
K
K
The
resulting
development
charges
from
increased
density
would
go
a
long
way
towards
paying
for
those
road
and
transit
infrastructure
upgrades
needed
to
support
the
immediately
adjacent
fastest,
growing
commercial
and
employment
node
in
the
city.
It
is
my
belief
that
this
oversight
can
be
corrected.
However,
there
are
a
number
of
other
considerations
to
support
re-evaluating,
not
just
miatami's
lance
at
cedarview,
but
also
any
of
the
category
2
lands
identified
in
the
report.
Specifically,
the
intensification
rates
proposed
under
the
balanced
approach
scenario
are
very
aggressive
and
may
not
be
met
in
either
the
near
or
long
term.
K
I'm
confident
that
staff
could
appropriately
identify
additional
lands
that
meet
the
evaluation
criteria
and
the
five
big
moves
immediately,
including
the
1281
hectares
of
land
recommended
by
the
joint
committee,
does
not
preclude
staff
from
further
analyzing
lands
within
options.
One
two
and
three
for
a
future
expansion
setting
aside
270
hectares
for
consideration
as
future
neighborhoods
is
only
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
while
potentially
magnifying
a
looming
land
shortfall
and
further
eroding
housing.
Affordability.
K
A
A
L
Hello.
Thank
you
madam
chair,
mr
chair.
We
have
a
plan
to
put
up
not
that
one,
the
gold
belt
plan
with
kavanaugh
and
just
to
set
the
stage.
Madam
chair,
we
did
provide
written
submissions
to
the
city
on
friday.
I
will
be
speaking
to
the
higher
level
issues
in
regards
to
the
gold
belt
and
matt
nasrallah
will
adjust
sorry
we'll
address
some
kavanaugh
specific
parcels.
L
Perfect,
yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
As
always,
this
has
been
an
interesting
process
to
get
to,
of
course,
where
we
are,
which
is
growth
management
too.
It's
very
significant
to
note
that
the
gold
belt
proposition
was
not
made
known
to
either
my
client
kavanaugh
or
even
the
industry
at
large.
I'm
sorry.
I
have
to
turn
that
off.
L
I
apologize,
but
I
turned
all
the
phones
off.
It
was
not
made
known
to
us
prior
to
last
friday
when
this
growth
management
2
report
was
released.
So,
needless
to
say,
we've
had
five
days
to
try
and
get
a
better
understanding
or
appreciation
for
it.
There
have
been
discussions
with
staff
and
counselors.
I
look
forward
to
councillor
dudas's
direction
coming
forward,
because
there
are
many
unknowns
and
questions
in
regards
to
this
gold
belt.
L
As
mr
chown
previously
said,
the
the
report,
as
it
states
does
say
that
this
is
meant
to
be
a
protection
for
agricultural
and
aggregate
resources,
but,
as
mr
nasrallah
will
speak,
we
know
of
several
instances
of
parcels
of
land
that
are
neither
that
are
currently
proposed
to
be
included
in
the
green
belt.
So
we
do
indeed
take
exception
to
that
and
we'll
be
seeking
a
remedy
for
that,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
the
direction
going
forward,
I
hope,
will
include
the
consideration
as
to
whether
or
not
the
green
belt
is
actually
required.
L
L
That
was
a
provincial
direction,
whereas
we
do
not
have
the
same
being
applied
in
this
case,
although
perhaps
a
lot
of
a
goal
in
some
respects,
we
have
to
make
sure
it's
properly
assessed
that
lands
that
should
be
included
in
it
are
indeed
included
and
just
like
those
that
should
be
excluded
are
excluded.
There
are
large
tracts
of
the
natural
heritage
overlay
that
are
not
currently
proposed
to
be
in
the
the
gold
belt
and
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
at
a
very
holistic
level.
A
I
Thank
you,
chair
harder,
el
shantiri
members
of
committee,
I'm
the
manager
of
kavanaugh
developments
and
further
to
written
submissions
that
my
friend
miss
mullins
referenced
from
last
week.
I
just
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
the
fact
that
the
very
limited
information
that
has
been
made
public
concerning
the
proposed
gold
belt
provision
in
the
growth
management
report.
It
fails
to
make
concessions
for
lands
that
have
existing
status
within
the
city.
I
In
order
to
address
these
egregious
oversights,
we
feel
there's
no
other
way
to
make
sure
our
interests
are
protected,
barring
an
opportunity
for
additional
reviewer
discussion.
We
respectfully
request
that
staff
report
be
amended
to
include
specific
exclusions
from
the
goal
belt
for
parcels,
with
existing
planning
or
legal
status
that
are
proposed
to
be
enveloped
by
the
proposed
gold
belt.
I
understand,
through
the
conversations
today
that
some
references
have
been
made
to
that
potentially
being
in
the
works,
but
until
that's
documented
in
a
way
that
we're
satisfied
we'll
continue
to
register
the
same
concerns.
G
G
I
Yeah
I
keep
getting
kicked
out.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'll,
just
stop
my
video
in
the
event
that
that's
the
issue
and
then
I'll
I'll
reopen
it
up.
If
there's
any
questions
so
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
I'm
a
partner
at
foten
consultants
and
I'm
here
with
peter
morose
from
stantec
consulting
engineers.
I
The
lands
are
also
south
of
the
ottawa
international
airport
and
also
about
the
airport's
2038
master
plan
boundary
having
immediately
adjacent
to
the
rideau
carlton
raceway
and
hard
rock
international
immediately
across
the
street
on
albion
road,
as
per
the
staff
report,
and
the
recommendations
and
document
number
two.
The
western
portion
of
the
lands,
approximately
159
acres
are
identified
as
category
1
lands
and
are
recommended
to
be
included
in
the
urban
boundary.
I
I'm
speaking
in
support
of
the
staff
recommendation
to
include
these
lands
in
the
urban
boundary,
corresponding
with
recommendation
number
three
in
your
report
for
the
benefit
of
both
communities
committees.
I
wanted
to
briefly
summarize
the
evaluation
carried
out
by
staff
and
maybe
add
a
little
bit
of
my
own
considerations.
I
The
lands
are
strategically
located
to
allow
the
design
and
development
of
a
true
smart
growth,
15-minute
residential
community
immediately
south
and
in
proximity
to
the
boseville
lrt
station.
In
the
earl
armstrong
corridor,
the
lands
are
immediately
east
of
riverside
south
and
allow
for
the
continuity
of
that
community
fabric.
I
Given
the
size
and
configuration
of
the
lands
there
are
opportunities
to
create
a
new
mix-use
town
or
village
center
and
offer
a
diversity
of
housing
typologies,
ranging
from
apartments
to
ground-oriented
units
and
well-planned
community
amenities.
In
fact,
an
early
version
of
the
concept
plan
already
includes
a
new
district
park
and
neighborhood
parks
to
meet
community
needs.
I
I
I
Lastly,
in
terms
of
municipal
servicing,
both
sanitary
water,
with
sufficient
capacity,
are
located
approximately
0.8
kilometers
to
the
abutting
riverside
south
community
to
the
west
of
falcon
ridge.
Village.
Lands
on
this
point,
if
needed,
peter
stantec,
can
respond
to
any
additional
servicing
inquiries.
I
So
for
all
of
these
reasons,
we're
in
agreement
and
support
the
staff
recommendation
related
to
these
lands
as
category
one
linux
to
be
added
to
the
urban
boundary
included
in
the
circulation
of
the
new
efficient
plant
peter,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
respond
to
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
A
M
I'd
like
to
thank
the
committee
chairs
and
committee
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today,
I'm
a
private
citizen
interested
in
planning.
The
draft
official
plan
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
today
is
a
great
plan,
but
it
is
for
another
time.
Over
the
past
year,
covet
19
happened
and
it
disrupted
everything.
M
Yet
the
plan
to
guide
the
spending
of
billions
of
dollars
of
public
and
private
sector
money
to
develop
the
built
environment
of
the
city
of
ottawa
has
not
kept
pace.
This
draft
grew
up
in
the
pre-covered
era.
Look
and
you'll
find
that
it
does
not
mention
covert
19.
Even
once
now,
I
presume
that
the
official
plan,
with
its
focus
on
density
planning
and
15-minute
neighborhoods,
has
been
under
development
for
years.
In
fact,
I
heard
it
started
in
2019..
M
In
contrast,
covet
19
is
a
very
late
arrival.
It's
a
shock,
a
challenge,
disruptive
and
immensely
powerful.
The
americans
are
saying
that
it's
already
killed
more
people
than
ww2
along
the
way
daily,
routine
and
plans
have
been
blown
out
of
the
water.
We've
heard
the
feeble
hopes
that
everything
will
return
to
normal.
Soon
it
comes
from
our
governments.
The
media,
and
from
each
other
we
hear
don't
worry,
the
kids
will
be
back
in
school.
M
M
I'd
like
to
thank
the
team
for
meeting
with
me,
the
november
draft
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
has
a
few
superficial
and
aspirational
statements
about
covet
19,
not
about
coping
19
but
public
health.
I
began
to
realize
that
the
official
plan
is
a
big
shift.
The
planning
team
can't
turn
it
on
a
dime
and
are
powerful
forces
that
would
prefer
action
permits
and
development
rather
than
rather
than
more
planning.
M
M
When
I
talk
about
recognition,
I
mean
the
second
type
on
page
10
of
the
official
plan,
we
see
five
planning
pillars,
each
a
plan
in
its
own
right
and
integrated
into
the
official
plan.
They
are
on
infrastructure,
transportation,
green
space,
climate
change,
housing
and,
let's
add
an
important
new
pillar.
Public
health
show
the
resources
allocated
to
public
health
as
a
percentage
of
the
city
budget.
Is
it
one
percent
10
percent
30
percent?
M
Certainly
if
we're
spending
amounts
like
30
percent
and
that
might
very
well
be,
we
should
have
a
plan
for
it.
Develop
schedules
for
re-engineering
the
built
environment
to
make
it
safe
during
pandemics,
the
scope
of
work
and
who
will
lead
the
health
and
built
interaction
track.
Key
indicators
such
as
cases
and
deaths,
which
you
have
up
in
front
of
you,
you
can
see
track
how
we're
doing
compared
to
others.
You
know
it's
not
always
grim
news
in
appendix
a
in
my
written
submission.
M
I
show
these
graphs,
which
currently
would
show
that
currently
ottawa
is
outperforming
both
the
rest
of
ontario
and
the
rest
of
canada
in
cases
and
deaths,
and
we
can
do
even
better.
Let's
ask
the
city
planners
to
model
the
effects
of
cover
19
on
immigration,
population,
growth,
population
distribution,
the
city's
transportation
plan,
the
use
of
downtown
office
space
work
from
home,
land
use
densities.
M
G
I
Yes,
I
am
sorry
about
that
as
having
a
problem
with
my
camera
there.
It's
it's
not
so
much
a
question
for
the
delegation.
I
just
wanted
to
show
the
delegation
this
as
the
chair
of
public
health.
I
I
don't.
I
don't
sit
on
either
of
these
committees,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
city
did
a
rather
unique
thing
for
this
go
around
for
the
official
plan,
and
that
is
that
there
is
public
health
is
part
of
the
process.
Public
health
has
a
planner,
that's
working
with
the
planning.
I
And
around
public
health.
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
that,
mr
galvin,
that
that
public
health
is
engaged-
and
I
want
to
thank
steve,
willis
and
and
also
chair
harder
for
recognizing
the
importance
of
having
public
health
as
part
of
the
planning
process
leading
to
the
new
official
plan.
So
we
are
engaged,
we
have
a
professional
planner
engaged
on
it,
and
so
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
of
that,
sir.
We,
we
are
definitely
in
the
mix
and
part
of
the
discussion
going
forward.
A
M
Thank
you,
mrs
chair
good
afternoon,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
joint
committee,
I'm
speaking
with
you
today,
I'm
a
real
estate
broker
with
my
wife
speaking
you
today
again
similar
to
jason
mcdonald
and
sean
hamilton.
I
represent
two
clients
with
land
parcels
along
hawthorne
road
and
we're
looking
at
the
the
urban
boundary.
And
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
of
the
the
map
of
the
urban
boundary,
you
can
see
kind
of
a.
M
What
I
call
a
boot,
and
just
east
of
that
is,
is
the
parcels
of
land
that
we're
talking
about.
So
we're
really
talking
about
parcel
of
land
that
to
the
north.
You
have
louis
says
road
to
the
south.
You
have
rito
road
to
the
east
ramseyville
road
and
to
the
west
hawthorne,
and
that's
just
a
little
bit
east
of
the
finley
creek
subdivision
development
there
along
bank
street
and
right
now
the
the
the
work
is
happening
between
bank
street
and
hawthorne.
M
So
as
soon
as
that
subdivision
is
completed,
it
should
be
in
the
next
few
years
we're
looking
at
the
next
expansion
of
the
city.
So
it
seems
that
across
the
street
on
hofstra,
it
would
be
probably
quite
efficient
for
the
the
city
to
expand
into
that
area.
And
if
you
look
at
that
space
there
it's
about
200
hectares.
But
if
we
looked
at
the
first
portion
of
it
the
north
portion,
it
would
be
around
100
hectares
and
you
already
have
a
golf
course
there.
M
So
it
it
provides
for
a
really
good
quality
of
living
there,
and
we
were
just
wondering
because,
right
now
the
land
is
designated
as
vacant
residential,
so
because
it's
so
close
to
the
urban
boundary
we're
looking
to
see
if
council
would
be
open
to
potentially
amalgamating
that
as
part
of
the
official
plan.
Thank
you.
G
N
Yeah,
sorry,
I
was
muted
apologies,
yes,
john's
gonna
join
me
so
I'll
just
do
a
little
bit
of
an
introduction
on
on
the
issue
I'm
presenting
specifically
in
regards
to
6435
fern
bank
road
on
the
score
sheet
listed
as
s
five,
six
and
seven
in
the
stittsville
catchment
area
we're
coming
to
committee.
Today,
we've
been
as
some
of
the
committee
members
may
know.
N
N
N
O'clock
addressing
our
concerns
did
introduce
some
new
information
does
not
actually
exist
in
the
document
two
presenting
how
scoring
was
based
on
on
the
areas
so
at
this
stage,
that
would
be
our
primary
request.
We
do
believe
that
the
facts
do
show
that
this
land
should
be
scoring
as
a
pass
one
schedule
1..
So
with
that
I'll
just
pass
it
to
john,
you
can
walk
through
the
specific
issues
and
then
we
can
answer
any
questions.
P
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this.
As
neil
said,
novatek
has
spent
considerable
time
and
effort
analyzing
the
the
scoring
for
the
basically
the
stittsville
westland.
So
it's
it's
the
parcels,
six,
seven,
eight
and
nine
so
north
of
fern
bank,
road
and
south
of
fern
bank
road
and
while
we
agree
with
most
of
the
scores
or
we've,
we've
come
to
terms
on
most
of
the
scores
that
have
been
provided
by
staff.
P
G
I
Thanks
chair,
this
is
actually
very
helpful.
I
I
have
tended
to
believe
that
staff
have
taken
council's
instructions
away
and
applied
those
rigorously
to
to
give
us
the
current
proposal.
I
voted
against
an
expansion
of
the
urban
boundary,
obviously,
but
those
conditions
are
critical
to
ensuring
that
the
parcels
that
are
recommended
for
inclusion
have
the
least
impact
on
on
the
city's
sustainability.
I
P
I
G
M
Yeah,
it's
a
comment,
not
a
question,
but
I
I
know
some.
Over
the
last
week
there
has
been
some
back
and
forth
with
staff
and
I'll
be
asking
staff
for
a
little
bit
more
information.
Later
I
mean
at
some
point,
there
will
be
disagreements
between
landowners
and
between
staff,
evaluation
and
I'd
like
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
from
staff
about
what
the
the
process
looks
like
when,
when
party
a
does
not
agree
with
party
b,
I
have
some
concerns
about
this
property
in
general.
M
It
is
within
that
1900
meter
transit
radius,
but
if
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
as
the
counselor
for
stittsville
how
on
earth
people
would
actually
get
to
the
the
transit
there's,
I
think
one
pathway
in
the
middle
of
this.
It's
really
not
well
integrated,
and
the
other
concern
that
I
would
have
here
would
be
around
that
proximity
to
wetlands
and
what
the
effect
would
be.
M
You
know
how
how
the
how
the
development,
how
development
could
be
mitigated,
so
it's
not
harming
that
the
large
wetland
conservation
area
is
just
west,
but
I
will
direct
that
to
staff.
But
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
and
this
is
one
that
I'm
obviously
keeping
tabs
on
as
we
go
through
our
days
here.
Thank
you,
chair.
G
G
Q
Yeah,
okay,
do
I
have
my
okay
perfect
good
day
everybody
thank
you,
chair,
harder
and
also
teary
and
members
of
the
community
for
giving
me
this
opportunity
today
to
speak
to
the
committee.
My
name
is
marcel
denomie.
I'm
vice
president
of
land
development
of
evidence,
corporation
urbandale
corporation,
owns
lands
across
the
city
and
have
been
a
community
builder
for
over
six
years
in
ottawa.
I'm
here
to
promote
one
of
our
properties
for
urban
expansion
and
rip
sites
up
next
slide.
Please.
Q
Q
This
slide
shows
our
our
lens
highlighted
in
yellow
in
more
detail
adjacent
to
the
boundary
in
riverside
south
of
note
on
this
map,
the
old
lrt
alignment
is
shown
in
black
dash
line
north
of
earl
armstrong
and
the
new
trolling
line,
which
is
south
of
earl
armstrong.
The
original
limit
of
phase
ii
trillium
line
was
to
stop
at
bulesville
station
due
to
funding
constraint.
Q
Q
This
shows
that
cdp
current
cdp
with
the
new
alignment
and
of
note,
I
think,
down
at
the
bottom
right
corner.
You
see
the
collector
rows
with
the
gray
arrows
sort
of
continuing
south
beyond
the
boundary,
which
is
obviously
anticipated
the
future
expansion,
and
these
are
the
lands
that
we're
speaking
speaking
of
right
now
next
slide.
Please.
Q
This
slide
shows
the
parcels
that
scaff
staff
have
scored
in
ribside
south
and,
as
directed
by
council
staff,
did
not
score
the
brown
color
area
west
of
our
two
lands.
Right
now,
as
they
were
designated
agricultural
resource
next
slide,
please,
this
slide
highlights
our
lands
that
is
designated
r2
rural,
the
r2
lands
which
were
recommended
and
designated
agricultural
resource
r1
lands
in
light
green.
Q
Q
Q
This
also
will
help
the
city
achieve
their
objective
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas.
As
40
percent
of
city's
greenhouse
gas
is
transportation
related.
I
also
took
the
liberty
of
scoring
r1
lands
using
the
same
criteria
from
staff
report.
The
result
is
a
score
of
74,
which
is
the
highest
of
all
parcels,
scored
by
staff.
Q
Q
This
shows
the
existing
trunk
sanitary
sewer
that
was
constructed
in
2006
by
riverside
south
development
corporation
well
in
advance
of
the
need
in
order
to
address
the
servicing
issue
at
the
rideau
carlin
raceway,
the
sewer
was
also
oversized
to
accommodate
future
urban
expansion,
south
of
rita
road,
a
south
2
raider
road.
The
benefit
of
this
foresight,
thinking
of
oversizing
truck
sanctuary,
is
that
there
is
no
big
extra
infrastructure
required
just
as
pump
station
to
service
our
lands
in
question
as
they
are,
as
they
can
be
serviced
by
a
gravity
system.
Q
Next
slide,
please
I'll
skip
this
slide
just
so
you
can
get
on
for
the
next
one.
This
is
a
rendering
of
the
linebacker
station
and
current
picture
of
the
construction
progress
of
the
limebank
station.
The
scheduled
completion
date
for
the
trillium
line
phase
2
is
2022,
which
is
the
same
year
of
the
op
and
the
same
year
that
they
will
be
scheduled
to
be
approved
at
the
province.
Q
A
A
B
M
Q
So
on
the
map
I
had
two
radiuses,
one
was
1.5
kilometers,
which
was
this
smaller
one
and
then
the
other
one
was
1.9,
which
is
based
on
the
the
criteria
of
the
scoring
and
a
good
chunk
of
the
lands.
I
would
say,
between
lime,
bank
and
mosquito
creek
that
are
right
now
designated
ag
or
within
that
within
those
radiuses.
Q
As
far
as
the
contribution
well,
the
the
extension
from
boseville
to
the
line
bank
station
was
in
the
order
of
80
million
dollars.
The
province
came
up
with
the
50
million
dollars
to,
as
as
the
to
to
fund
to
to
to
meet
the
gap,
and
then
there's
the
special
air
dc
is
there
to
to
fund
the
the
additional
30
million
dollars
and
the
the
funding
mechanism
is
not
like
a
pure
call
that
that
we're
contributing
it's
more
about
bridging
the
gap
between
now
and
the
2031.
F
A
F
Just
want
to
also
a
little
bit
of
clarification,
mr
dynamite,
if
I
just
this
is
ag
land
that
you're
sitting
on
right
now,
but
if
that
doesn't
get
developed
or
it
continues
to
be
protected.
Does
that
mean
there's
a
big
chunk
of
development
on
one
side
of
the
the
trillium
line
that
will
have
no
housing
or
customers
to
support
the
line.
Q
Yeah,
that's
exactly
right
right
now.
The
lrt
line.
That's
under
construction
is
within
200
meters
of
the
boundary
right
now.
So
if,
if
the
ag
land
that
are
stays
sterilized,
then
there's
a
huge
missed
opportunity
to
have
development
close
to
the
those
two
future
stations
you
know
to
to
support
the
transit.
F
Q
Rstc
installed
that
in
2006
and
and
I
wasn't
working
with
urbandale
back
then,
but
from
what
I
understand,
the
radio
kotlin
raceway
had
issues
with
their
sanitary
sewer,
rstc
front,
ending
the
cost
of
the
line,
all
the
way
to
earl
armstrong
and
the
reader
carlton
have
a
force
main
that
pumps
into
it.
This
is
back
in
2006
and
at
the
same
time
there
was
some
master
servicing
study
that
was
ongoing
and
it
was
determined
at
the
time
to
oversize
it
to
be
able
to
accommodate
future
expansion
from
the
existing
boundary
down
to
rita
road.
F
Q
Well,
yeah
correctly
often
often
when
you're
having
to
expand
you're
you're
into
having
to
construct
pumping
station,
which
are
a
huge
big
item
infrastructure
item
and
on
the
scoring
that
usually
gives
you
a
negative
score
for
your
land,
and
the
other
part
of
this,
I
suppose,
is
because
of
the
lands
east
of
boseville
right
now
are
also
being
considered.
Then
they
they
technically
could
be
if
our
lands
keep
sterilized
and
they
technically
be
taking
our
capacity
away
from
us
for
future,
which
is
an
issue
for
rsdc.
F
Q
Well,
yeah:
well,
the
the
motion
to
not
score
egg
land
was
obviously
a
surprise
for
us.
Yes,
I
mean
it's
not
that
previously
previous
op
expansion
never
had
that
sort
of
sterilization
of
egg
land.
It
was
always
scored-
and
you
know
in
this
case
here
where
you
have
lrt,
not
planned,
but
actually
going
to
be
there
by
2022.
Q
I
mean
that
usually
means
you
you
want
to
maximize
on
on
that
infrastructure,
I
mean
it's
not.
This
is
like
huge
infrastructure
like
the
whole
trillium
line.
Phase
2
upgrade
is
is
in
the
order
of
700
million
dollars.
So
if
you're,
if
you're
gonna
try
to
protect
that
land,
which
we
we
agree,
we
should
protect
it,
but
in
some
cases
it's
not
very
practical.
I
guess.
Q
Well,
right
now
it's
been
just
cash
crop,
which
is
it's
not
well
drained?
It's
not.
It
doesn't
give
us
a
or
doesn't
give
the
farmer
talking
to
the
farmer.
It
doesn't
give
him
much
of
a
of
a
crop
depending
on
the
year,
depending
on
the
weather,
and
obviously
we
have
not
made
any
investment
of
of
any
tile
draining
on
the
land
to
to
make
it
better.
Q
So
you
know
if
it
were
to
sell
to
farmer
tomorrow,
he
would
have
to
spend
a
bunch
of
money
to
do
that
and
talking
to
the
farmers
these
days,
it
usually
is
not
especially
when
you're
adjacent
to
the
boundary.
It's
not
really
because
the
other
part
of
this,
as
I
should
explain,
is
that
the
area
east
of
the
of
our
which
part
of
it
is
our
land
that
will
create
somewhat
of
a
leap
frogging,
as
you
continue
south,
and
the
other
part
is
that
the
our
land
is
on
the
east
side.
Q
E
A
Thank
you,
counselor
man.
Thank
you
marcel
for
coming
out
today.
Next
up
we
have
kevin.
Sanchmar
kevin
is
followed
by
neil
girouder,
michelle
trombley.
If
michelle
is
here,
I'm
going
to
be
calling
him
a
couple
of
times.
If
he's
not
salma
al-shahabi
with
professor
lee
is
after
michelle,
so
kevin
flora
is
yours.
Thank
you
for
coming
out.
I
Chairman
appreciate
it,
I
hope
all
as
well.
My
name
is
kevin
sanchmars,
I'm
the
executive
vice
president
of
kavanaugh
group
of
companies.
Kavanaugh
is
the
owner
of
about
800
acres
of
land,
west
of
stittsville,
south
of
hazleton
road
and
north
south
to
fernbank
road,
and
it's
immediately
budding
the
hazeldeen
road
highway.
7
interchange
that
ursula
had
highlighted
earlier
in
her
presentation.
I
The
lands
are
largely
vacant
with
a
mix
of
open
fields,
woodlands
and
the
designated
wetlands
kavanaugh
has
status
under
the
estate
lot
moratorium
settlement
reached
with
the
city
of
ottawa
in
2013
to
make
application
for
an
estate
lot
subdivision
on
these
lands.
So
these
lands
are
already
designated
for
development
by
the
city.
I
As
part
of
the
staff
report,
staff
are
recommending
some
lands
north
of
hazelden
road,
be
added
to
the
urban
boundary
as
category
1
lands.
Some
lands
on
the
south
side
of
hazelden
road
through
to
fernbank
have
also
been
considered
for
expansion
and
fall
under
category
2
lands
in
the
city's
evaluation
at
fernbank
road.
These
lands
are
directly
abutting
our
lands.
I
A
E
A
J
Our
concerns
primarily
relate
to
the
gold
belt
proposal.
We
have
provided
the
committee
with
our
written
comments
last
week
when
we
took
a
look
at
the
the
conceptual
map
of
the
gold
belt.
It's
quite
apparent
includes
a
huge
area
of
the
rural
area
and-
and
that
includes
a
number
of
pits
and
quarries,
as
well
as
aggregate
resource
areas
and-
and
I
would
say
a
lot
of
these
areas-
are
the
cities
both
their
existing
and
their
future
supply
for
close
to
market
aggregate?
J
To
be
quite
frank,
that
the
gold
belt
came
as
a
complete
surprise
to
us
we're
actively
reviewing
the
draft
official
plan
that
came
out.
We
didn't
see
it
mentioned
in
the
draft
official
plan.
We
haven't
noted
it
in
previous
reports
to
council,
so
we
were
a
bit
surprised
to
see
this.
You
know
we
would
acknowledge
that
the
report
does
recognize
that
this
is
an
area
to
protect
and
permit
extraction.
J
J
J
Rehabilitation
has
to
occur
which
can
accommodate
appropriate
after
uses
the
question
we
would
have
for
the
committee.
Is
it
really
reasonable
to
sterilize
pits
and
quarries
for
potentially
80-plus
years,
and
I
just
want
to
make
another
quick
comment
based
upon
staff's
comment
this
morning,
that
the
gold
belt,
in
their
opinion,
is
consistent
with
the
pps
because
it
protects
agricultural
land
respectfully,
we
were
just
asked
how
staff
can
make
this
determination
without
having
any
corresponding
policies
or
further
information
to
properly
understand
how
it's
going
to
be
applied
in
the
official
plan.
J
If
the
creation
of
the
goal
belt
proceeds,
we
would.
We
would
request
that
the
city
meaningfully
consult
the
aggregate
industry,
given
the
potential
impact
that
it
will
have
on
significant
resource
areas.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
comments
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
of
the
committee's
questions.
Thank
you.
A
A
However,
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
had
many
discussions
with
don
herwire
and
his
team,
and
I
know
I
was
speaking
to
rod,
price
and
rod
pierce
on
friday,
and
they
too
have
met
with
him
and
there's
time
for
any
of
your
questions
between
now
and
june.
When
this
comes
back
and
but
there's
not
any
plan
to
change
anything,
what
you
know
is
countryside
is
gold
belt,
and-
and
that's
it
it's
that
simple
anyone
else
have
any
questions
anyway.
A
T
T
Again
we
have
purchased
a
piece
of
property
cash
for
trash
wanting
to
remove
them
from
there
so
that
we
don't
we
don't
presently
the
piece
of
property
right
now
is
zoned
rural
industrial.
We
do
not
want
to
kind
of
have
a
pile
of
trash
in
the
back
of
the
the
neighborhood
where
westridge
and
those
beautiful
walking
trails
are
also.
T
T
T
Then,
when
I
look
at
rito
road
or
riverside
south,
the
airport
authority
has
31
hectares
of
land
there
that
could
never
be
developed,
and
it's
in
the
yellow
pass
can't
put
houses
there
for
the
planes,
I'm
just
I'm
just
going
through
certain
parts
and
just
wondering
where
we're
at
with
this
I
know
back
in
may
I
had
a
long
discussion
with
planning
about
canada.
North
asking
them
is
any
land
coming
in
canada
north.
T
T
T
G
D
It's
just
a
point
of
clarification
just
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
fully
what
lands
we're
considering
the
lands
in
question
in
orleans
in
south
orleans,
the
wall
roadlands
those
were
admits.
Those
were
previously
designated
agricultural.
There
was
a
zoning
amendment,
an
official
plan
amendment
to
have
that
changed.
D
T
D
You
wanted
michelle
if
you
want
to
submit,
I
mean
I
it's
hard
for
us
to
sit
here
and
go
through
scores
and
back
and
forth
with
staff.
If
you
want
to
submit
an
email
to
me.
Obviously,
you've
reached
out
to
me
before
about
different
things.
So
if
you
want
to
send
an
email
to
me,
I'm
happy
to
evaluate
that
with
staff
and
get
back
to
you
with
the
response.
G
E
E
E
What
does
that
term
really
mean
to
you
or
what
do
you
think
of
when
you
hear
that?
I'm
probably
gonna
be
saying
you're
thinking
well,
for
some
of
you
and
I
I
did
look
at
some
of
you-
it
might
be
childhood
memories,
it
might
be
a
dream
for
some
others
and
for
most
it's
probably
viewed
as
an
extremely
expensive,
unaffordable
classic
car.
E
So
this
is
one
example
of
a
good
that
is
limited
in
supply
and
that
is
most
desired
in
the
world
with
an
estimated
value
now
at
about
16
18
million
us
dollars.
But
what
does
that
have
to
do
with
the
gold
belt?
Well,
this
is
what
lands
in
ottawa
will
be.
If
we
approve
the
proposed
gold
belt,
the
plans
will
be
limited
in
supply.
E
E
This
is
why
I'm
asking
you
to
reconsider
and
not
approve
going
ahead
with
the
gold
built
today.
I
see
it
as
negatively
affecting
the
sustainability,
the
long-term
housing
affordability,
and
I
see
it
as
bringing
a
social
and
economical
catastrophe
to
the
city
if
we
are
to
approve
it.
Controlling
the
supply.
Now
is
not
the
solution
and
we
have
to
look
at
what
is
the
solution.
E
The
city
should
leave
the
city
boundaries
alone
for
good,
and
this
is
not
that
I'm
encouraging
spur.
I'm
not
saying
we
should
just
let
developers
develop
everywhere,
but
by
leaving
the
city
land
unlimited
and
to
properly
address
the
supply
barriers
of
housing
within
our
developed
communities.
Now
this
would
be
the
solution
to
what
we
have
as
a
a
problem.
If
we
do
it
now,
we
will
be
protecting
our
city's
long-term
housing.
Affordability,
we'll
ensure
our
children
have
an
opportunity
to
reach
their
full
potential.
E
We
will
reach
our
investigation
targets
and
mitigate
our
environment.
Environmental
footprint
nimbyism
has
taken
over
our
city
for
far
too
long
and
it's
time
for
all
of
us
concerned
about
the
environment
concerned
about
affordability
or
the
future
of
our
children,
rural
and
agricultural
lands.
We
should
all
stand
together
against
nimbyism.
We
should
support
developers
as
they
propose
development
plans
in
the
built-up
area.
E
We
need
to
have
more
people
show
up
at
planning
committees
to
to
fight
against
nimbyism
and
help
councillors
vote
against
it,
and
there
are
other
measures,
but
this
is
the
number
one
reason
why
we
are
here
and
to
say
that
we
are
going
to
be
preventing
the
next
three
four
five
generations
from
making
a
decision
in
the
city
is
not
right.
They
are
our
children
and
we
have
to
have.
We
have
to
give
them
the
chance
to
to
make
these
decisions.
E
E
G
N
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm
unmuted.
Thank
you
very
much.
I've
got
a
very
brief
time
to
speak.
I
realize
I
I
only
just
learned
of
this
opportunity
this
morning
and
I
was
in
class
for
three
hours.
I
I
strongly
agree
with
what
selma
is
saying.
I
I
don't
consult
anybody.
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
development
industry.
I
don't
have
investments
in
any
of
this.
N
I'm
paid
by
one
person,
one
organization
in
this
world
and
it's
called
carlton
university,
and
they
certainly
don't
tell
me
what
to
think
so,
I'm
certainly
not
in
the
pocket
of
developers.
In
fact,
I
took
on
developers
in
the
lansdowne
park
10
years
ago.
I
took
on
I'm
not
afraid
of
taking
on
billionaires
or
multi-millionaires.
This
this
proposal
is
appalling.
It
is
an
assault
on
our
young
people
and
immigrants.
Coming
to
canada.
I
have
a
house
in
the
glebe.
I
am
living
fat,
I'm
I'm
doing
just
fine.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
This
is
not
an
assault
on
me.
This
is
an
assault
on
young
people
and
there
are
opportunities
and
new
canadians
stats.
Canada
shows
the
date
is
very
clear.
All
population
growth
in
the
future
going
forward
is
going
to
come
from
immigration.
This
is
preventing
immigrants
from
coming
to
canada
and
integrating
in
the
suburbs,
where
the
cheapest,
the
least
expensive,
less
most
affordable
housing
is
located.
We
have
done
a
brilliant
job
for
50
60
70
years
in
integrating
our
immigrants,
unlike
the
europeans,
who
have
done
such
an
appalling
job.
Okay,
we.
N
What
this
is
designed
to
do
is
look
after
privileged
people
like
me,
drive
reduce
the
supply,
drive
up
the
housing
prices
of
us
people
in
the
core
and
the
urban
core
and
the
glebe
westborough,
and
this
is
selfish.
This
is
selfish.
This
is
not
looking
after
the
needs
of
the
future
of
young
people
and
immigrants.
In
fact,
let
me
go
further
and
I'll
close.
You
know
for
this
last
year
and
a
half
with
the
whole
discussion
around
black
lives
matter
and
minorities.
N
N
E
I'm
not
saying
they're
not
enough,
I'm
just
saying
that
when
you
are
saying
we're
limiting
the
supply
you're,
basically
going
to
make
competition
happen
fiercely
between
developers
and
those
who
can
own
these
lands.
This
competition
is
going
to
drive
the
prices
way
up
and
that
cost
is
going
to
be
passed
on
to
the
homeowners
and
to
the
tenants
who
are
going
to
be
living
on
these
in
these
houses
and
in
those
developments.
E
D
Okay,
just
stop
you
there
on
the
nimbyism
stuff.
Nimbyism
has
never
won
the
day
at
planning
committee.
So
let's
just
stop
right
there.
It's
never
won
the
day.
They
all
come
out
to
us.
They
oppose
development,
we
approve
it
anyways
and
then
we
get
on
so
let's
just
be
clear
that
nimbyism
does
not
win
the
day,
so
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
that.
N
A
G
F
I
just
just
a
question
to
selma
or
professor
lee.
I
unders,
I
understand
your
arguments
but
at
the
same
time,
the
more
that
we
allow
more
land
to
be
developed
on
the
cost
to
all
of
us
increases
we
have
to
service
land,
we
have
to
provide
transit
and
new
schools
and
parks,
and
you
know
everything:
where
does
that
fit
in
what?
For
what
you're.
N
Saying
can
I
respond
to
that
yeah
there's
a
fundamental
conflict
that
none
of
you
want
to
address,
and
it's
real
in
our
country
we're
the
second
largest
land
mass
on
planet
earth.
We
all
know
that
that
that
isn't
the
issue
our
country
is
only
going
to
grow.
If
we
have
immigration,
we're
built
on
immigration,
all
growth
and
future
is
going
to
come
from
immigration.
There
is
a
fundamental
conflict
between
the
growth
restrictions
and
our
commitment
to
immigration
and
to
say
that
we
don't
have
enough
land
is
we
all
know,
that's
demagogic,
nonsense.
N
The
united
states
is
a
smaller
land
mass
than
canada
and
they've
got
330
million
people
in
the
united
states.
We
have
38
million
smaller
the
state
of
california
in
the
second
largest
landmass,
so
to
suggest
that
we're
running
on
a
land
or
that
we
can,
we
have
to
restrict
it
to
save.
The
agriculture
is
just
nonsense.
Okay
and
I've
got
the
stats.
I
didn't
have
time
to
bring
them.
I've
got
agriculture
stats
from
stats,
canada
to
show
you.
A
All
right
all
right!
Thank
you!
Thank
you.
Now
you
see
now
now:
okay,
okay,
we're
losing
track
of.
Why
we're
here
now,
okay,
and
just
because
we're
getting
a
little
bit
excited
more
people,
are
getting
interest
and
are
asking
questions
and
you're
not
asking
questions
you're,
asking
questions
to
rebut
and
that's
not
what
we're
here
to
do
we're
here
to
listen
today:
okay,
and
they
have
their
opinion,
we
have
ours,
okay
and
people
that
live
elsewhere
in
the
city
and
whether
you
live.
A
It's
just
different
and
that's
one
of
the
great
things
we
have
in
this
city
and
we
have
a
very
healthy
multicultural
city,
and
our
growth
is
definitely
in
those
new
canadians
coming
here,
and
most
of
them
are
moving
to
the
burbs,
and
I
thank
them
every
day.
So
does
anyone
else
really
want
to
ask
a
question?
Counselor,
hubley.
P
P
N
I
I've
had
the
great
fortune
because
my
father
came
from
europe.
I
have
a
european
passport,
even
though
I've
grown
up
and
lived
in
canada.
All
my
life.
I've
been
oliver
to
most
of
the
european
countries
and
these
assumptions
behind
progresses
to
make
the
argument
for
the
15-minute
neighborhood
are
based
on
models
from
europe
where
the
densities
range
and
I've
looked
them
up
by
country
from
250
people
per
square
kilometer
to
550
people
per
square
kilometer.
Canada
has
the
lowest
density
on
planet
earth
at
four
per
square
kilometer.
N
Yes,
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
wasted
land
up
north
meaning
there
aren't
people
there.
Even
when
you
take
that
out,
we
have
one
of
the
lowest
densities.
We
are
strung
out
because
that's
the
nature
of
the
development
of
our
country.
So
my
point
being
that
the
the
15-minute
neighborhood,
I
don't
think
is
is
workable.
It's
not
that
I'm
against
it.
I
mean
ironically.
I
practice
it
because
I
rarely
leave
where
I
live,
because
I'm
older
and
I'm
isolating
and
all
that
stuff,
but
I
don't
think
it's
practical
for
most
people
in
the
suburbs.
N
You
know
the
soccer
club
or
field
is
three
kilometers
that
way
and
the
hockey
arena
is
five
kilometers
that
way
and
the
loblaws
is
seven
kilometers.
That
way,
that's
just
the
nature
of
being
the
second
largest
country
in
the
world,
and
so
it's
a
pipe
dream.
It's
a
dream
of
trying
to
import
the
european
model
into
canada
and
we're
not
we're
not
europe.
N
P
But
dr
lee
sorry
one
follow-up.
Madam
jer,
I
asked
to
get
your
thoughts
on
the
18-hour
city
and
I
didn't
hear
you
mention
that
the
18-hour
city
would
be
better
because
it
means
all
those
things
that
you
listed.
You
would
be
connected
to
it
most
likely
by
transit
or
by
a
pathway
that
you
could
cycle
or
walk
on.
N
I
understand
it
and
I
applaud
the
effort,
but
I
don't
think
we're
being
realistic
in
the
sense
of
two
things
we
can't
the
transit
works.
Best
is
the
hub
and
spoke
model
you
bring
everybody
into
the
downtown
transit
mass
transit
is
not
good
for
running
across
the
burbs.
I
call
it
running
from
the
west
side
of
canada
to
the
east
side
or
running
from
it.
Just
isn't
built
like
that,
and
the
second
thing
is
about
the
pathways.
Is
we
continuously
neglect
world
bank
data?
N
Canada
is
the
second
coldest
country
on
the
planet
earth
after
russia
mean
average
winter
temperature.
All
you
have
to
do,
don't
listen
to
me,
go
out
and
look
at
the
bicycle
paths
in
the
winter
and
see
how
many
millions
of
bicycles
are
running
down
the
street
in
the
bike
path.
You
know
the
answer,
I
know
the
answer.
It's
just
too
cold,
it's
not
workable.
A
R
A
It
would
be
a
pleasure
to
have
you
come
and
make
a
special
presentation.
I
have
a
long
time
follower
very
interested
in
what
you
have
to
say
whether
I
agree
with
you
or
not.
It
would
be
great
for
you
to.
If
you're
interested,
we
could
put
together
a
special
zoom
event
that
I'm
sure
lots
of
people
more
than
just
counselors
would
sign
on
to
it
would
be
maybe
we'll
get
a
couple
of
people
to
go
back
and
forth
with
you,
and
it
would
be
fun
and
interesting.
N
G
A
A
P
P
My
comments,
concern
my
property
and
surrounding
land
owned
by
witchcraft,
as
shown
here
that
have
been
grouped
by
the
city
as
part
of
the
category
three
potential
new
community.
These
lands
are
zoned.
Are
you
and
our
kitty
corner
to
the
existing
urban
boundary?
I
will
refer
to
these
lands
as
the
cooper,
coal
or
cc
lands
reflecting
historical
ownership.
P
The
point
I
wish
to
make
is
the
cc
land
should
be
appropriately
grouped
with
category
1
south
march
cluster,
rather
than
the
category
3
potential
new
community
land.
There
are
three
reasons
for
this:
regrouping:
inaccurate
land
grouping
and
scoring
of
service
costs,
illogical,
delineation
of
urban
boundary
and
the
need
to
follow
through
with
past
planning
decisions
slide.
Four,
please.
P
P
Even
with
today's
public
transit
system,
it
is
only
a
12-minute
walk
for
me
to
catch
an
express
bus
going
downtown
to
my
work
at
national
defense,
there's
good
access
to
417
along
the
old
second
line
and
terry
fox.
In
addition
to
march
road.
These
lands
are
superbly
located
to
provide
a
15-minute
neighborhood
for
many
more
people
than
just
my
wife,
and
I
slide
five.
Please.
The
serviceability
scoring
of
the
cc
land
is
negatively
affected
by
grouping
them
with
lands.
P
Two
kilometers
away
water
supply
upgrades
will
be
required
to
serve
the
south
march
cluster
lands
and
the
same
upgrade
to
the
morgan's
grant
water
pump
required
to
service
sm-9b
will
also
provide
water
to
cc
lands.
Contrary
to
previous
comments,
this
land
is
not
agricultural
land,
they,
it
is
rocky
and
it
will
present
some
servicing
challenges.
P
Wastewater
upgrades
required
to
service
the
south
march
cluster
are
the
same
upgrades
required
to
service
the
cc
lands.
Existing
erosion
problems
in
charities
brook
would
be
mitigated
by
the
addition
of
a
storm
water
management
pawn
on
these
lands,
as
recommended
by
engineers
reporting
to
witchcraft.
P
I
would
like
to
meet
with
staff
to
review
scoring
to
understand
why,
for
example,
the
cc
land
was
scored
negative
one
for
active
agricultural
operation
when
there
is
no
agriculture
here,
if
you
properly
group
the
cc
land
with
a
self-marked
cluster,
it
permits
holistic
planning
of
services
for
these
lands
slide.
Six.
The
second
reason
to
include
the
cc
land
with
a
silk
march
cluster
is
to
create
a
logical
urban
boundary
using
the
old
second
line.
P
Road,
as
the
boundary
creates
an
isolated
parcel
of
land
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
gold
belt
and
rural
residential,
a
more
logical
delineation
would
be
to
follow.
The
inner
boundary
of
the
gold
belt
is
shown.
I'd
like
to
emphasize
some
new
information
that
I
did
not
include
with
my
written
submission.
This
grouping
is
not
a
new
idea.
The
last
time
the
urban
boundary
was
considered
by
the
city
in
2009.
P
P
A
A
N
You
and
good
afternoon
councillors
I
live
in
kitchissippi
ward,
represented
by
councillor
leaper.
Maybe
you
could
tell
that
already
from
the
beard,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
environment
committee
of
the
champlain
park,
community
association,
an
active
member
of
cafes
and
a
member
of
the
board
of
the
green
space
alliance.
N
Today,
I'm
speaking
as
a
member
of
an
alliance
of
environmental
and
social
justice
organizations
called
the
people's
official
plan
for
ottawa's
climate
emergency.
I
wish
to
make
one
point
only
for
consideration
by
council
and
staff,
along
with
others.
I
support
the
concept
of
protecting
rural
lands
through
a
mechanism
such
as
the
gold
belt,
as
you've
already
heard
and
seen
in
the
report.
N
N
This
worries
me
particularly
for
the
large
pockets
of
lands
in
the
litrum
east
and
carlsbad
west
area,
where
the
current
urban
boundary
is
also
the
edge
of
the
green
belt,
and
it
creates
a
big
pocket
where
one
of
the
three
two
of
the
three
options
being
considered
today
could
get
approved
soon.
As
part
of
the
270
hectare
discussion,
the
same
concern
exists
for
several
large
pockets
around
the
south
march
highlands
that
are
not
within
the
proposed
urban
boundary
and
yet
not
in
the
proposed
gold
belt.
Either.
We
just
heard
about
one
such
small
parcel.
N
Fortunately,
the
draft
official
plan
has
a
policy
that
could
do
that
in
the
section
on
citywide
policies.
The
draft
official
plan
introduces
the
possibility
of
designating
natural
linkage
areas
to
provide
connections
between
core
natural
areas
like
a
green
like
the
green
belt
and
the
broader
regional
natural
landscape.
N
Moving
forward,
I
can't
speak
for
the
fca,
but
community
associations
that
I'm
the
champlain
park,
community
association
cafes
as
well,
that
I'm
part
of
and
the
broader
people's
official
plan
initiative
have
not,
as
far
as
I
know,
been
consulted
on
the
gold
belt.
To
date
it's
been
a
one
week
period.
I
guess
like
everyone
else,
where
we've
heard
about
the
belt
and
and
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
the
documents.
N
I
Well
I'll
be
keeping
my
eye
on
that
and
asking
staff
to
make
sure
that
the
consultations
around
which
parcels
are
in
the
gold
belt
and
which
are
not
etc,
is
not
just
a
discussion
between
the
development
industry
but
includes
some
citizen
participation
as
well.
Thank
you
for
a
good
presentation,
so
they
made
a
lot
eminent
sense.
A
L
Hi,
how
are
you
doing
so
good
afternoon,
madam
and
mr
chairing
committee,
so
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
mentor
communities
and
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
today
and
another
thank
you
to
the
city
of
ottawa
staff
for
their
time
and
effort
to
complete
a
comprehensive
analysis
for
the
urban
expansion
in
the
city
of
ottawa.
After
reviewing
the
report,
we
did
want
to
express
our
support
for
many
of
the
recommendations
that
are
within
the
report.
L
G
Okay,
now
on
me:
okay,
thank
you,
ms
anderson,
for
your
presentation,
but
I
think
his
counselors
have
their
fault
all
along
because
it
was
called
country
side
and
then
she
said,
let's
have
a
name,
so
the
resident
can
adjust
to
it.
We
have
the
green
belt
in
ottawa.
We
can
call
this
the
gold
build
and
it
seems
to
create
more
confusion
than
creating
really
transparency,
because
that's
the
whole
idea
is
to
protect
the
agriculture
plan
around
around
the
city
and
the
natural
future
and
the
natural
resource
lab.
A
F
L
A
So,
just
for
clarification,
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
after
the
delegations
are
finished
tomorrow,
we'll
come
back
at
noon
and
we'll
put
the
motions,
directions,
etc
on
the
table.
At
that
point,
we
will
ask
questions
of
staff.
We
will
do
our
debating,
and
so
that
will
be
before
us
tomorrow
and
I
think
staff
are
listening
as
well,
so
they'll
be
prepared
to
speak
to
whether
or
not
a
direction
is
needed
and
what
the
nuances
and
differences
are
if
any
between.
A
L
S
I'm
fine
thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon
members
of
committee
and
both
chairs,
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
the
claire
jones
group
of
companies,
and
then,
unfortunately,
I
find
myself
having
to
be
somewhat
critical
of
the
way
this
report
is
set
up
with
you
know
it's
set
up,
so
the
council
approves
an
expansion
plan.
Map
for
inclusion
into
an
official
circulation
and
the
lands
that
are
excluded
would
essentially
be
out
of
luck.
This
means
that
the
consultation
for
period
for
those
excluded
lands
would
be
effectively
a
weak.
S
S
Until
this
report
was
released,
we
had
absolutely
no
idea
how
they
would
be
scored
with
only
a
few
days
to
question
the
findings.
That
is
not
really
effective.
Consultation,
as
a
comparison
to
the
last
time
that
this
exercise
was
done
in
2009,
there
were
several
iterations
of
a
scoring
table.
Many
opportunities
to
meet
would
stop
and
discuss
the
merits
and
drawbacks
of
each
and
every
parcel,
and
this
process
of
proper
consultation
was
over
several
months,
not
days.
S
S
Now,
with
respect
to
the
actual
evaluations
of
the
parcels,
the
approved
guidelines
and
methodology
were
not
strictly
followed,
but
they
were
rather
interpreted
now.
We
have
absolutely
no
problem
with
the
past.
One
lands,
those
that
are
shown
in
yellow
on
the
maps,
because
these
are
the
most
deserving
and
obvious
parcels
for
inclusion.
So
these
should
be
approved
right
away,
especially
in
canada
north,
where,
as
a
member
of
canada,
north
land
owners
group,
where
we
would
be
delighted
to
have
more
landmass
to
help
us
develop
the
infrastructure
that
is
needed.
S
The
10-year
wait
that
was
referenced
this
morning
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
lack
of
demand
up
in
that
area.
It
has
everything
to
do
with
trying
to
get
infrastructure
approved,
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
significant
infrastructure
about
20
million
dollars
worth
is
about
to
start
on
march,
road
being
front-ended
by
those
land
owners.
S
However,
the
staff
assessment,
especially
for
servicing,
was
harsh
and
inconsistent
in
the
from
the
published
criteria,
and
this
ended
up
preventing
some
parcels
from
being
passed.
One
and
neil
mulatra
talked
about
that
earlier,
because
they
didn't
meet
the
minimum
threshold
of
14
for
servicing.
Now
this
is
really
important,
because,
even
though
staff
told
us
that
they
were
consistently
applied
across
the
city,
the
fact
that
they
scored
lower
than
the
published
criteria
had
the
effect
of
artificially
limiting
the
number
of
past
one
sites,
which
of
course
gave
staff
the
discretion
to
manipulate
the
past
two
recommendations.
S
Now
one
might
think
that
a
few
points
shouldn't
really
matter
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
After
all,
we
have
15
no
16.
I
guess
one
added
one
penalty
was
added
somehow
along
the
way.
Staff's
approach
was
that
if
you
didn't
make
the
pass
one
cut,
then
they
had
discretion
for
all
of
the
remaining
lands.
S
This
subjective
discretion
to
pick
and
choose
only
begs
the
question
of
whether
just
and
fair
consideration
was
given,
based
on
all
of
the
council
approved
criteria
or
just
a
few
of
them
as
part
of
a
fair
and
reasonable
solution.
Our
suggestion
is
that
you
approve
the
past
one
lands
that
are
shown
in
yellow
on
the
map,
then
direct
staff
to
use
the
overall
holistic
score
using
all
of
the
criteria
and
rank
the
remaining
lands
and
recommend
them
in
order
based
on
overall
merit.
S
S
There
would
then
be
no
need
to
have
the
first
three
scenarios
presented
in
recommend
recommendation
five
to
fill
the
unused
balance,
but
the
notion
of
further
study
and
a
report
in
five
years
to
talk
about
a
well-researched,
viable
option
for
future
expansion
needs.
That
makes
perfect
sense.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
O
O
Thank
you.
First
of
all
shares
harder,
nelson,
terry
and
vice
chairs
counselors
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
report.
Thank
you
to
mr
steve
willis
and
city
staff.
Clearly,
the
effort
level
study
research
put
into
the
report
is
is
on
a
grand
scale.
No
doubt
in
my
mind
about
that
on
behalf
of
richcraft.
O
I
want
to
use
my
time
today
just
to
speak
to
a
few
of
the
items
that
I
think
require
some
additional
consideration.
The
first
item
is
is
in
line
with
some
of
my
colleagues.
Today
is
just
saying
that
the
turnaround
time
that
we've
been
afforded
here
was
what
I
would
say
inadequate
in
the
future.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
little
bit
more
time
in
this
pro
in
this
step
in
the
process,
extend
it
a
little
bit
so
that
owners
can
fully
assess
the
impacts
of
this
report.
O
That's
that's
a
lot
of
pages
coming
out
on
a
friday
night
and
then
the
next
friday
you've
got
to
get
your
submission
in
with
your
critique.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
those
areas,
so
I
suggest
we
we
make
that
step
a
little
bit
bigger
a
little
bit
longer
give
give
people
more
of
an
opportunity.
O
My
second,
my
second
point
is
in
regards
to
the
countryside,
formerly
known
as
the
gold
belt.
This
recommendation
number
one.
I
was
quite
quite
surprised
to
read
about
it
and
I
haven't
really
seen
any
research
other
than
I
think
just
the
current
designation
in
the
op.
So
so
we
kind
of
just
took
the
paint
brush
from
the
op.
It's
like.
Mr
miguel
has
said
this
morning.
There
isn't
really
a
big
change
in
policy
implications
and
I
didn't
see
any
research.
O
This
first
point
of
the
rationale
in
the
report
talks
about
how
this
countryside
will
direct
development
away
from
natural
areas.
I
disagree,
I
think
you're
specifically
targeting
natural
areas.
I
think
aeg
is
a
man-made
thing.
It
is
not
a
natural
thing,
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
important.
I
like
to
eat
food
every
day
as
well,
so
I
I
find
I
find
that
rationale
to
be
a
little
bit
strange.
O
I
think
we
need
to
clarify
and
miss
anderson
from
minto
was
saying
the
same
thing,
and
I
agree
with
her.
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
find
out.
Are
we
farming?
Our
new
lands
are
trees
growing
on
ag
plants?
Are
we
setting
ourselves
up
for
leapfrogging,
yet
again
is
carlton
plays
in
rothland?
Are
they
going
to
send
us
a
thank
you
card,
because
now
they
can
have
that
many
more
residents
interested
in
coming
so
melody?
Can
you
put
the
slides
up
for
me
and
I'll?
O
Okay,
aaron
just
lost
my
notes,
so
this
this
first
slide
is
page
38
on
document
two,
as
you
can
see,
and
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
here
is
that
we
have
a
planned
brt,
an
actual
brt
station
planned
and
that's
going
right
through
a
current
farm
field.
Agricultural
lands,
but
I
mean
are:
are
we
then
not
going
to
consider
these
for
expansion
in
the
future?
O
K
O
O
This
is
just
a
little
bit
of
the
same.
The
same
thing
give
you
an
idea
of
where
millennium
park
is
and
where
these
lands
are,
and
that's
exactly
where
the
the
planned
brt
is
supposed
to
go
with
with
the
sea.
I've
actually
seen
the
station
drawings,
so
I
know
I
know
they're
out
there
next
slide,
please
next
one
these
lands
are
in
the
riverside
south
area.
Mr
chown
and
mr
dana
may
have
already
represented
in
this
general
area
and
in
my
may,
submission
and
moving
forward
with
with
richcraft.
A
P
P
I
I
Then
we'd
get
our
cattle
back
after
they'd
get
out
of
the
fence
in
what
is
now
the
fernbank
estate
subdivision
across
the
road
we
trundled
our
tractors
up
and
down
the
road,
and
now
we
can't
do
those
things
any
longer
and
what's
happened
over
time
is
that
we
could
produce
food,
and
now
we
can't
because
there's
a
conflict
between
the
rural
and
the
urban
transportation
corridor.
We
can't
ride
our
horses.
We
can't
drive
our
tractors.
We
can't
make
effective
use
of
the
land
any
longer.
I
We
can't
use
the
roadways
as
we
did
previously
and
we
can't
make
effective
use
of
the
property
any
longer
as
an
agricultural
property,
and
so
I
think,
as
you
deliberate
how
you
intend
to
implement
a
policy
around
the
countryside,
that
it's
critical,
that
you
have
a
separation
between
rural
roads
and
urban
development.
Otherwise
other
farmers
will
find
themselves
in
the
same
predicament
as
we
are
in
today.
I
Our
property,
as
I
say,
fronts,
on
fernbank
road
and
our
property,
is
not
within
the
development
plan.
Currently,
even
though
there
is
going
to
be
a
a
transportation
hub
immediately
across
the
road
there's
a
park
and
ride-
and
there
are,
there-
are
other
facilities,
infrastructure
facilities
such
as
water,
waste,
water
and
so
forth.
I
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
waste
that
that
other
areas
will
be
developed
when,
when
this
area
will
not
be,
I
recognize
fully
that
agricultural
lands
are
are
as
are
are
ranked
as
they
are,
but
from
time
to
time
one
runs
into
instances
where
agricultural
lands
can
no
longer
be
operated,
as
they
were
formally
simply
because
of
the
the
circumstances.
So
I
would
seriously
recommend
that
that
council
carefully
deliberate.
A
L
I
am
coming
to
this
meeting
as
a
small
investor
in
this
massive
plan
and
I'm
looking
at
the
south
march
cluster,
I'm
a
resident
in
that
south
march
cluster,
of
which
there
are
five
estate,
lots
it
would
sound
and
look
like
those
are
an
insignificant
portion
in
that
land
area.
However,
there
are
123
two
acre
estate
lots
which
comprise
246
acres,
which
equates
to
a
hundred
hectares,
so
that's
over
50
percent
of
that
land
mass
has
already
actually
been
developed
as
rural
estate
lots.
L
So
I
would
ask
that
that
be
reconsidered,
that
this
is
not
vacant
land.
This
is
57
of
developed
plan
and
if
we're
looking
for
urban
density
won't
be
able
to
be
achieved.
However,
once
those
estate
lots
are
now
designated
as
urban
developers
can
come
in
and
scoop
them
up,
but
now
we're
dealing
with
individual
land
owners.
Having
to
deal
with
those
challenges,
and
certainly
on
my
title
deed,
I
have
covenants
on
my
title
saying
I
can't
have
my
land
developed.
G
L
G
M
K
I
hope
that
today,
at
the
end
of
my
time,
I
will
be
given
the
same
respect
that
all
residents
take
public
meetings,
there's
a
double
standard
here
at
work
when
folks,
like
myself,
come
and
speak
about
the
perception
of
developer
influence
or
the
perils
of
sprawl,
and
about
the
fact
that
we
must
develop
our
city
differently
in
a
way
that
takes
into
account
the
needs
of
residents
and
the
impact
of
participation,
we're
classified
as
radical,
reckless
and
unrealistic.
But
you
know
what
is
really
reckless.
K
I'm
here
today,
because
horizon
ottawa
and
countless
others
in
this
city
are
quite
frankly
concerned
about
this
report
that
was
released
at
5
pm.
On
a
friday
night,
mind
you
further,
it
was
quite
disingenuous,
disingenuous
and
leaning
to
see
quotes
and
a
press
release
from
the
chairs
of
both
committees
and
mayor
watson
praising
the
report
as
chairs
of
these
meetings,
and
thus,
as
arbiters
of
this
incredibly
important
discussion.
K
These
members
of
council
should
focus
on
facilitating
deliberation
on
the
report
after
hearing
from
public
delegations,
rather
than
providing
pr
for
it
before
the
public
has
even
weighed
in
this
report,
as
well
as
the
decision
around
the
boundary
in
may
has
constantly
been
referred
to
by
senior
staff
and
counselors
who
supported
it
as
balanced
and
measured.
Both
terms
mentioned
more
than
a
dozen
times
in
this
report,
but
there
is
little
there's
little
balancer
measured
about
this
plan.
K
While
we,
of
course,
don't
oppose
it.
The
proposal
of
this
new
gold
belt
is
nothing
more
than
an
excuse
for
the
city's
poor
policy
making
and
the
majority
of
city
council's
bad
decision-making,
most
of
whom
have
taken
campaign
donations
from
the
development
industry
who
have
huge
stakes
in
this
decision.
K
The
solution
to
all
of
our
urban
problems
cannot
continue
to
be
to
give
developers
more
land
and
space
to
develop
and
profit
from
sure
developers
are
hungry
for
more
profit
to
be
extracted
from
rising
property
values
and
ottawa's
planners
appear
to
be
happy
to
facilitate
ever-growing
property
values
of
zoning
in
our
boundary
expansion.
But
property
values
cannot
go
up
forever
without
displacing
thousands
of
residents
and
businesses
who
cannot
afford
increasingly
expensive
real
estate
unranked.
K
As
long
as
we
continue
to
plan
our
city
within
the
confines
of
outward
expansion,
we
cannot
reach
the
goal
of
having
15
minute
neighborhoods,
which
is
committee,
makes
constant
references
to,
and
I'm
sure
that
members
here
know
that
very
well.
They
know
that
now
and
they
knew
it
when
we
were
debating
the
expansion
of
the
urban
boundary.
This
is
not
a
debate
that
can
be
squeezed
into
an
urban
rural,
suburban
divide,
but
rather
it's
a
debate
between
those
wanting
sustainable.
K
Finally,
a
report
like
this
does
not
reflect
the
future
the
needs
of
future
residents,
although
mentioned
years
as
late
as
the
2040s.
It's
short-sighted
and
will
not
and
will
only
have
negative
effects
on
the
future
generations
by
putting
our
environment
at
risk
and
exacerbating
the
house
experience
just
because
you
say
you're
right,
the
worst
15-minute
neighborhood
doesn't
automatically
make
it
so.
The
true
path
to
this
is
a
city
plan
for
and
by
residents,
not
wealthy
corporate
developers
and
those
who
sympathize
with
them.
That's
that's
my
time.
Thank
you.
A
A
L
I
apologize
there.
We
go
I'll,
be
brief
this
afternoon,
madam
chair,
so
this
written
submission
was
provided
to
the
city
a
little
bit
late
friday,
but
it
was
still
provided.
I'm
making
submissions
now
on
behalf
of
metcalf
realty
company
and
they
own
the
lands
that
are
indicated
on
the
plan.
That's
currently
before
you,
so
these
are
lands
that
are
between
the
current
canada,
north
community.
That
was
brought
in
as
part
of
the
last
urban
expansion
and
march
valley,
road.
Coincidentally,
they
are
adjacent
to
the
connaught
range.
I
did
not.
L
We
did
not
know
prior
to
today
that
dnd
was
going
to
be
speaking
to
this
exact
matter.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
metcalfe
takes
exception
with
the
fact
that
these
lands
or
the
the
all
of
the
lands
on
the
march
valley
road
were
not
considered
for
future
expansion.
As
part
of
the
report
for
the
reasons
that
follow,
it's
not
appropriate
to
categorically
exclude
them
from
consideration
merely
because
of
the
presence
of
content
range.
L
There
are
many
efficiencies
infrastructure,
transit
servicing
that
can
be
easily
extended
to
these
lands
either
through
the
existing
canada,
north
area
or
up
mount
march
valley.
Road
they're
in
very
close
proximity
to
jobs
and
retail,
as
mr
chown
referenced
earlier
this
area,
it
makes
sense
and
that
it
at
a
certain
point
logic,
rational
urban
boundaries
should
be
what's
considered.
L
There
was
a
pronouncement
in
regards
to
a
buffer
or
protection
from
the
content
range
noise
and
what's
generated
there
on.
However,
just
because
that
was
said
at
that
point
in
time
does
not
categorically
make
it
apply
today
and
that
it
would
be
more
prudent
to
do
updated
studies
or
even
considerations
in
regards
to
land
uses.
A
A
Yep,
no,
no
I'm
talking
about
the
oh,
yes,
noise,
the
airport,
you
forget,
rcmp
lands,
but
near
the
airport
court.
Are
there
such
stipulations
like
through
federal
government
or
whatever,
such
as
the
ones
for
noise
for
the
airport?
The
cones
that
have
been
developed
is
there
that
for
department
of
natural
defense
lands,
or
is
that
more
of
a
we're
telling
you
we're
still
going
to
be
very
active
in
that
in
at
shirley's
bay
and
at
con
at
range.
L
A
G
A
G
E
G
L
L
Dnd,
but
if,
if
I
could
just
respond,
madam
chair
through
you,
that's
actually
the
point
of
our
submission.
Is
that
I'm
also
the
administrator
for
the
canada
north
area
and
involved
in
the
development
of
that
land?
And
it's
just
the
categorical
exclusion
of
these
lands,
which
is
effectively
sterilizing
them
for
the
benefit
of
dnd
without
actual
study
or
justification
being
provided?
L
G
R
Awesome
joint
chairs,
council
members
and
all
city
staff.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
make
this
presentation.
My
name
is
noel
pereira
and
for
the
past
17
years
I
have
been
the
owner
of
the
55
year
old
cdl
golf
and
country
club,
located
at
56
seater
hill
drive
on
the
west
side
of
cedarville
road.
I
also
own
the
phase,
one
lands
of
the
unanswered
subdivisions
south
of
lydon
avenue
and
also
located
on
the
west
side
of
cw
road.
R
The
86
acre
gulf
coast
lands
are
located
within
the
cdl
estates,
residential
subdivision
and
north
of
the
contiguous
hotel
estate
subdivision.
Both
these
subdivisions
are
approximately
one
acre
st
lots
with
on
split
services
with
municipal
water,
the
seed
hill
golf
course,
and
their
budding
virtually
states
and
ochet
city,
health
and
health
states.
Communities
are
all
designated
rural
general
rural
area
on
schedule.
A
rural
policy
plan
of
the
current
city
of
ottawa
official
plan,
the
designation
permits
a
variety
of
rural
land
uses,
including
large
lot
residential
dwellings.
R
R
I
had
previously
requested
the
golf
course
lands
and
my
nasa
spring
subdivision
lands
be
considered
for
urban
expansion
by
the
city's
planning
committee,
while
planning
applications
to
redevelop
the
lands
to
a
large
large
residential
subdivision
comparable
to
their
budding
serial
estates.
Community
would
be
reasonable
and
appropriate.
R
I'm
advised
that
it
would
be
it
would
not
be
best
use
of
the
lands.
Given
the
close
proximity
to
the
current
urban
boundary
located
across
the
road
on
the
east
side
of
cw
road,
I
retained
various
consultants
to
assess
the
appropriateness
of
the
lands
for
urban
expansion
and
believe
they
are
a
strong
candidate
for
the
city's
urban
boundary
expansion.
R
I
have
been
advised
that
the
new
municipal
services,
portable
water,
senator
and
storm
sewers
are
now
located
in
close
proximity
to
my
lands,
mainly
as
a
result
of
other
development
applications
facilitating
the
consideration
for
urban
lands.
I
am
advised
that
there
are
no
environmental
constraints
identified
on
these
lands.
The
lands
are
well
served
serviced
by
roads
and
provide
opportunities
for
future
transit
services.
R
R
Major
employment
facilities
will
develop
on
dcr
phoenix
lands
at
fellow
field,
road
and
stranded,
drive
and
city
gate,
170,
acre
master
plant
business
park,
incorporating
a
region
of
the
shopping
center,
costco
food
store
and
a
corporate
campus
with
a
251
square
meter
office
assembly
line
distribution.
I
think
it's
the
amazon
distribution
center
with
respect
to
staff
report.
Before
both
committees,
the
report
identifies
1011
hectares
within
category
one
lands,
noting
that
an
additional
270
acres
hectares
is
required
to
achieve
the
total
land
needed
to
accommodate
the
city's
future
growth.
My
land.
E
R
However,
the
lands
are
of
sufficient
size
and
configuration
with
existing
unopened
road
allowances
to
allow
for
an
appropriate
transition,
integration
and
connectivity
to
the
adjacent
cdl
and
other
states
country
launch
subdivisions.
The
report
proposes
three
options
for
finding
the
additional
278
hectares
prior
to
2026..
R
My
request
to
the
committee
is
at
the
committee's
direct
staff
that
the
category
two
lands
we
added
now
in
particular,
both
city
held
gulf
lands
and
onassis
springs
lands.
We
added
to
the
urban
boundary
to
ensure
the
long-term
visioning
and
planning
know
that
exactly
where
the
city
will
grow.
I
believe
there's
no.
G
P
P
So
I
wonder
whether
the
demographic
projections
that
staff
have
made
are
going
to
hold
up,
so
my
main
suggestion
is
that
don't
you
know
is
basically
to
wait.
Don't
approve
anything
this
year
until
that
is
irreversible.
You
know
that
means
shovels
go
into
the
ground
and
you
can't
reverse
the
decision.
P
The
you
know
you
can
keep
a
watching
brief.
I
don't
think
things
are
that
there's
that
much
pressure
to
get
shovels
into
the
ground
and
start
building
things
in
the
next
12
months
and
continuing
on
that.
I
would
also
observe,
as
I
observed
to
this
committee
back
in
may,
that
the
demographic
projections
that
staff
did
were
interesting,
but
they
were
nowhere
near
as
complete
as
I
would
have
liked.
And
finally,
if
I
have
another
minute,
I
can't
resist
responding
a
little
bit
to
ian
lee's
comments
before
about
15
minute
communities.
P
So
the
idea
is
not
15
minute
communities
overlaid
on
existing
built
structure
we
have
to,
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
appreciate
it
better
than
I
do-
that
the
built
environment
evolves
rather
slowly,
but
the
idea
should
be
to
put
in
place
measures
and
regulations
and
strictures
or
whatever
that
make
the
future
growth
of
the
city
much
more
supportive
of
the
emergence
of
15-minute
communities
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
sir.
That
was
really
interesting
and
you're
right.
It
was
a
different
perspective.
I
don't
see
any
questions
for
you,
however,
so
thanks
again
for
coming
out
and
sticking
through
all
those
speakers,
the
next
step
we
have
two
speakers
left
the
next
one
is
milan
or
fate
or
milan.
You're
gonna
have
to
tell
me
hasn't
signed
on
hasn't
signed
on
so
we'll
go
to
potentially
our
last
speaker,
who
is
phil
mount
associate
director
of
just
food
still
here.
I'm.
A
Everybody's
holding
their
breath,
not
there,
okay.
So
what
can
you
say?
That's
good,
so
the
joint
committee
is
in
recess
until
noon
tomorrow.
We'll
see
you
back
then
and
we'll
be
up.
First,
with
all
the
motions
we'll
go
down
first
be
put
down,
staff
will
be
here:
staff
from
transportation
staff
from
pied.
Of
course,
I'm
sure
they've
covered
the
gambit
of
what
we're
going
to
ask
about
tomorrow.
So
have
a
good
rest
and
see
you
tomorrow
thanks
everybody.
Thank
you.