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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee - Thursday, April 7, 2022
Agenda and supporting documents available at www.ottawa.ca/agendas
A
A
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
item
2
and
4
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
item
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submission
before
the
amendment
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
A
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
recipient
of
the
applications
for
zoning
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comment
on
these
amendments
prior
to
the
consideration
by
the
city
council
on
february,
9,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
council
coordinator
is
that
february
night
is
correct.
I
think
okay.
B
Mr
chair,
I
believe
the
items
from
this
agenda
will
be
rising
to
council
on
the
13th
of
april.
A
A
Thank
you
caitlyn
and
those
two
committee
remember.
Obviously
this
method
is
still
virtual
meeting
and
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
zoom
protocol,
but
counselor
are
reminded.
If
you
have
any
emotion
on
any
of
the
items
listed
today,
please
send
a
copy
to
us
ahead
of
the
public
delegation,
so
the
committee
members
and
staff
have
an
opportunity
to
review
and
and
necessarily
clarity,
you'll
clarify
your
motion
during
the
discussion
of
the
map.
Thank
you.
A
So
I'm
going
to
do
a
little
row.
Call
myself
this.
We
receive
a
message
comes
from
me
and
she
will
not
be
joining
us
today,
she's
a
little
bit
under
the
weather,
so
we'll
go
with
the
roll
call
councillor
gower.
D
A
I
thought
I
saw
okay,
counselor
moffat.
A
Vice
chair
kids,
yeah
and
myself
here
so
so
we
go
through
the
consent
agenda
first
and
so
declaration
of
interest.
A
Thank
you
so
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development.
So
item
number
one
is
the
high
performance
development
standard.
We
have
a
presentation
and
we
have
speakers
on
the
items.
So
we'll
hold
item
number
one.
A
A
A
So
I
believe
for
item
number
two:
we
carry
that
we
have
the
jonah
bond
on
behalf
the
the
applicant,
but
since
we
don't
have
any
and
we
carried,
I
can
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
mr
brown
to
to
be
available
for
us
item
number
three
is
thomas
the
gamble
municipal
drain
appointment
of
engineer,
that's
also
in
osgood,
ward
and
losses
to
south
nepean,
and
the
report
recommendation
that
the
agriculture
and
rural
affairs
committee
recommend
that
council
appoint
mr
andy
robinson,
the
engineer
of
robinson
consultant
inc
as
an
engineer
of
record,
to
prepare
the
report
under
section
78,
one
of
the
drainage
act
to
inform
council
on
the
current
status
of
the
thomas
gamble
municipal
drain
and
whether
one
or
more
of
the
projects
listed
under
section
78
1.1,
as
required
for
the
latter,
use
maintenance
or
repair
of
the
drainage
work
of
the
land
of
roads,
and
I
think
too,
that's
so
we
see
we
have
mr
ryan
here.
A
F
Sure
I'll
just
skip
over
the
first,
whereas,
but
whereas
the
report
recommends
multiple
amendments
to
the
zoning
bylaw
2008-250
with
iraq,
considering
those
located
in
rural
areas
as
set
out
in
recommendation,
one
and
planning
committee
approving
the
other
amendments,
as
outlined
in
recommendation
two.
Whereas
since
the
release
of
the
report
with
the
iraq
agenda
on
march,
28th
staff
have
revised
the
report
to
add
an
additional
anomaly
for
consideration
by
the
planning
committee
and
the
revised
report
was
released
with
the
planning
committee
agenda
on
april
4th.
F
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
and
the
report
recommendation
item
number
one
that
the
agricultural
rural
affair
committee
recommend
council
approve
amendments
to
zoning
by
law
2008-250,
as
shown
in
document
1
and
detail
in
document
3..
So
item
number
two:
it's
already
been
approved
by
a
planning
committee
item
number
three,
that
the
planning
and
agriculture
and
rural
affairs
committees
approve
the
consultation
details.
A
Section
of
this
report
be
included
as
part
of
the
brief
explanation
in
a
summary
of
written
and
oral
public
submissions
to
be
prepared
by
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
and
submitted
to
council
in
a
report,
titled
summary
of
oral
and
written
public
submission
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation
requirements
at
the
city
council
meeting
of
april
27
2022,
subject
to
submissions
received
between
the
publication
of
this
report
and
that
time
of
council
decision.
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
five
status,
update
agriculture
and
rural
affair
committee
inquiries
and
motion
for
the
period
ending
march
25th
2020
receive.
A
I
guess
this
is
an
update.
Thank
you
I
do
have.
I
do
have
emotions
going
on.
We
need
to
waive
the
rules,
but
we
can
come
back
to
within
the
end
of
the
meeting,
because
right
now
we
have
we
need
to
go
to
item
number
one
and
have
a
presentation
from
staff
and
go
through
the
the
three
speakers
who
sign
up
to
speak.
G
Yes,
good
morning,
chair
members
of
committee,
thank
you
all.
The
presentations
loading
I'll
just
provide
some
brief
introductory
remarks
and
rebecca
hagen.
Our
file
lead
will
be
walking
you
through
the
presentation.
Currently.
So
most
committee
members
and
those
president
will
recall.
This
item
was
considered
at
a
planning
committee
on
march
10th,
where
it
was
recommended
for
approval.
G
G
That
spoke
to
the
motion,
the
implications
of
it
there's
information
on
costing
thresholds
where
the
standard
would
apply
and
a
number
of
things
that
rebecca
will
walk
you
through.
G
So
I
will
also
just
mention
that
rebecca
is
supported
this
morning
by
melissa,
george
conway
from
our
climate
change
and
resiliency
team
and
dr
stowe,
and
martha
copesbake
from
our
naturals.
G
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
to
rebecca
to
provide
a
brief
presentation,
and
there
will
be
a
bit
of
a
focus
on
how
it
applies.
The
rural
area,
specifically
thanks.
C
Good
morning,
thanks
dawn,
yes
I'll,
just
jump
right
in
so
next
slide.
So
I'll.
C
C
The
high
performance
development
standard
is
a
collection
of
voluntary
and
required
metrics
that
raise
the
performance
of
new
building
projects
to
advance
sustainable
and
resiliency
resilient
design.
The
planning
act
gives
municipalities
and
ontario
authority
to
use
site
plan,
control
and
plan
of
subdivision
to
review
priority
elements
of
developments.
Ottawa's
high
performance
development
standard
is
enabled
through
policy
direction
within
ottawa's
new
official
plan
over
the
last
17
years,
starting
in
2006,
eight
municipalities
in
ontario
have
implemented
similar
standards.
Ottawa
has
worked
and
learned
from
these
municipalities
to
develop
the
high
performance
development
standard.
C
These
standards
all
use
the
same
legislative
authorities
as
proposed
in
ottawa's
high
performance
development
standard
next
slide.
The
standard
will
shift
the
industry
to
consider
sustainability
impacts
earlier
in
the
project
where
more
opportunities
to
change
the
design.
This
shift
will
help
to
grow
the
green
job
sector
and
build
capacity
to
meet
future
building
code
changes
collectively.
The
standard
aims
to
advance
the
climate,
change
mitigation
and
adaptation
priorities
of
the
climate
change,
master
plan,
energy
evolution,
climate
resiliency
strategy,
as
well
as
other
corporate
project
objectives
related
to
public
health,
ecology
and
accessibility.
C
Next
slide,
the
standard
does
not
apply
to
projects
pursuing
building
permit
only
and
the
standard
is
split
into
two
years.
Two
tiers
tier
one
is
required
and
tier
two
is
voluntary.
Tier
one
applies
to
all
new
plan
of
subdivision
applications
and
all
site
site
applications,
except
in
the
rural
area,
where
it
is
applied
to
complex
applications.
Only
tier
two
is
encouraged
and
tools
and
strategies
to
incentivize
and
increase
adoption
are
under
review
and
will
require
further
internal
and
external
consultation.
C
The
hpds
will
be
phased
in
over
time
to
build
staff
in
industry
capacity,
while
still
accounting
for
climate
change
targets.
The
standard
is
proposed
to
be
reviewed
every
four
years
subject
to
council
approval
with
the
energy
metric
advancing
in
each
update,
as
shown
on
the
diagram
on
the
slide
next
slide,
the
majority
of
site
plan
applications
in
the
rural
area
are
small
generally
consisting
of
coach
houses
and
or
minor
additions
or
changes
to
commercial
sites.
C
There
were
over
the
last
two
years,
so
between
20
for
2020
and
2021,
there
were
three
new
complex
applications
in
the
rural
area.
Last
year,
two
commercial
so
and
of
those
two
were
commercial
warehouses
and
one
was
a
light.
Industrial
use,
the
rest
of
the
applications
were
either
standard.
Small
rural
residential
standard
or
small,
the
residential,
the
small
residential,
are
made
up
primarily
of
small
residential
building
additions,
such
as
coast
houses.
C
Next
slide,
the
standard
covers
some
key
features
of
sustainable
and
resilient
design,
energy,
health,
ecology,
resiliency
waste
and
transportation.
This
builds
on
interrelated
policies
and
guidelines
already
in
place
and
under
development
in
ottawa.
Today
for
cycling
control.
There
are
12
metrics
required
under
tier
1
and
22
metrics
required
under
tier
2
listed
here
next
slide.
C
C
Engagement
on
the
project
started
with
energy
evolution
continued
throughout
the
official
plan
and
got
very
specific
during
the
project
development,
a
series
of
eight
workshops
were
held
with
developers,
architects
and
sustainability
consultants
on
the
proposed
standard.
In
november
2021,
the
hpedia,
the
draft
hpds
was
published
on,
engage
ottawa
staff
received
comments,
held
public
information
sessions
and
two
q.
A
sessions
next
slide
throughout
consultation.
C
C
The
next
step
staff
will
start
implementing
the
plan
and
begin
updating.
The
green
building
policy
develop
an
incentive
program,
monitor
and
report
on
the
standard
provide
updates
to
the
standard.
Every
four
years
provide
considerations
for
the
high
performance
development
standard,
where
some
reduced
submission
requirements
are
enabled
and
work
with
the
province
to
advance
the
climate
change
in
the
ontario
building
code.
Next
slide,
so
thank
you
and
I
know
for
some
of
you
who
are
at
planning
committee
as
well.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
rebecca
for
your
presentation,
so
we'll
go
directly
to
the
public
delegation
and
we
started
with
daniel
buckles.
H
H
H
H
H
H
A
clear
signal
from
the
city
is
needed
to
launch
the
shift
to
greater
native
plant
biodiversity
in
ottawa's,
new
subdivisions
in
villages
and
in
peri-urban
ottawa
there's.
No
reason
why
a
significantly
higher
target
cannot
be
said
which
will
help
protect
rural
and
urban
landscapes
from
further
erosion
of
the
biodiversity
needed
to
support
healthy
ecosystems
and
the
agricultural
livelihoods
these
help
preserve.
H
I
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair
and
normally
would
engage
too
much
for
the
committee.
Obviously
representatives
here
I
I
just
on
this
topic.
I
wanted
to
ask
daniel
about
staff's
comment
around
the
native
tree
species
that
we
had
heard
last
time
and
just
to
go
into
that.
So
I
think
city
staff
had
talked
about
that.
I
They
believe
the
that
the
the
hpds
higher
target
for
native
trees
is
not
practical
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
or
you
know,
needs
to
be
investigated
a
little
bit
more
when
they
said
that
the
non-native
non-invasive
species
are
needed
for
some
plant
environments,
such
as
clay
soils,
and
then
they
also
indicated
that
a
higher
native
species
target
would
require
the
city
to
change
its
procurement
practices,
noting
that
the
nursery
industry
we
need
time
to
improve
their
their
stock
supply.
So
just
can
you
go
into.
I
H
H
It's
really
a
question
of
the
level,
the
scope
that
is
provided
for
non-native
non-invasive
species,
it's
much
greater
than
it
needs
to
be
to
address
those
very
few
specific
settings
where
non-native,
non-invasive,
trees
or
other
kinds
of
plants
might
be
suitable.
H
H
H
I
I
know
that
the
european
linden
small
leaf
linden
is
one
of
the
species
that
the
city
thinks
is
needed,
but
there
are
many
alternates
within
the
native
and
non-native
category
for
the
european
linden
there's
something
called
the
american
basswood
which
is
native
throughout
eastern
north
america
and
then
they're
all
other
a
whole
bunch
of
other
full-sized
hardwood
trees.
H
That
would
do
just
as
well
as
the
european
linden
sugar,
maples,
black
maple,
red,
maple,
silver
maple,
different
kinds
of
oaks,
hickories
black
walnut,
the
the
range
of
options
is
huge
and
it's
simply
not
being
used
effectively
and
while
some
scope
is
needed
for
non-natives,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
anywhere
near
that
50
level
to
to
meet
the
needs
that
are
there.
H
Regarding
the
second
point,
procurement
procedures
to
me,
that's
would
be
a
case
of
the
tale,
the
wagging
the
dog,
you
know
procedure,
the
procurements
procedures
need
to
show
leadership
and
they
could
be
phased
in
as
well,
and
so
I
don't
see
that,
as
a
very
compelling
reason
to
set
a
very
low
target
for
for
species,
diversity
nurseries
can
adapt
and
those
species
are
the
native
and
near
natives
are
available.
H
So
let's
make
use
of
them.
Let's
provide
some
leadership
on
this
very
important
point
that
will
impact
rural
landscapes,
as
well
as
the
urban
environment.
I
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
that's
an
interesting
idea
about
phased-in
approach.
I
think
toronto
has
done
that
where
you
know
so
that
procurement
can
kind
of
catch
up
to
the
desired
level,
and
so
a
phased-in
approach
might
be
a
nice
middle
ground
where
we
start
with
the
you
know,
proposal
that's
in
front
of
us
with
staff
and
then
and
then
have
direction
to
to
phase
it
up
to
a
higher
percentage
over
time,
so
they
can
catch
up
with
the
procurement
models
that
they've
laid
out.
H
If
I
may
on
that
point,
indeed,
that
does
provide
some
options,
but
note
too,
that
staff
have
just
reminded
us
that
there
is
no
formal
update
to
the
standard
for
four
years
according
to
their
plan.
So
a
phase-in
would
need
to
recognize
that
you
know
we're
not
talking
about
four
years
from
now
to
improve
the
the
level
of
diversity,
but
rather
you
know,
phase
in
starting
from
the
get-go
and
and
setting
a
higher
target
already
provides
a
direction.
A
B
Thank
you.
I
have
a
presentation
coming
there.
We
are
good.
I
am
just
a
little
second.
I
am
well
chair
counselor
good
morning
and
thank
you.
B
B
Before
I
go
into
the
details,
I
want
to
take
a
step
back
and
look
at
the
bigger
picture
again
and
the
reason
why
we're
even
considering
the
standard,
the
climate
crisis.
Sadly,
the
world's
climate,
is
nearing
major
tipping
points.
Once
these
tipping
points
are
reached,
they
are
irreversible
in
human
time
scales
and,
in
some
cases,
can
have
catastrophic
consequences
for
our
climate.
B
So
not
surprisingly,
the
ipcc
emphasizes
in
its
latest
report
the
urgency
of
immediate
and
more
ambitious
action
and
that
half
measures
are
no
longer
option
cities.
You
play
a
crucial
role
in
this,
so
the
hpds
is
a
great
opportunity
to
make
a
difference
and
help
also
a
transition
to
a
net
zero
and
resilient
future
and
follow
through
on
addressing
the
climate
emergency.
B
Unfortunately,
the
hpds
is
lacking
in
a
number
of
areas.
The
issues
I
and
others
have
raised,
as
the
planning
committee
in
march,
are
that
this
standard
will
not
apply
to
a
large
proportion
of
new
buildings.
Second,
the
standard
that
the
standards
ambition
is
in
many
respects
behind
china's
latest
green
standard
version.
Four
and
that's
because
autumn
will
model
itself
on
the
older
version,
three
also
monitoring
and
enforcement
mechanisms,
as
well
as
incentives.
B
B
A
A
B
B
It
is
hugely
important
to
be
ambitious
to
reach
automotive
goals
also
because
retrofitting
electric
car
charges
is
so
much
more
expensive
than
building
right
from
the
beginning,
in
particular,
for
your
constituents
in
rural
areas.
It
is
essential
to
have
access
to
fast
charging
facilities,
they
tend
to
travel
longer
distances
and
therefore
need
to
be
able
to
top
up
on
the
go
so
fast
charging
level.
Two
or
three
is
really
essential
here
now.
Currently,
the
hpds
does
not
contain
any
mandatory
requirements
for.
B
B
Next,
like
this
now
I'd
like
to
take
again
a
step
back
and
look
at
the
bigger
picture
and
see
how
canada
fits
in
internationally-
and
I
must
say
I
was
surprised
by
the
data
I
found.
While
canada
has
double
doubled
its
share
in
eb
sales
in
2021.
It
still
lags
shockingly
far
behind
most
major
developed
economies.
B
I've
provided
some
details
for
you
in
the
slides.
Interestingly,
in
2019,
canada
was
at
par
with
the
european
union
in
electric
car
sales,
but
within
two
years
european
countries
searched
ahead
to
have
a
much
bigger
share
of
electric
car
sales
than
canada,
which
brings
us
to
charging
infrastructure
next
slide.
Please
I've
looked
at
ev
charging,
availability
and
regulations
elsewhere
in
terms
of
availability.
I've
compared
ottawa
with
cities
of
a
similar
size,
and
you
can
see
the
data
on
the
slides.
B
B
B
Okay,
same
goes
for
the
for
the
u.s
and
even
toronto.
Next
slide,
please
and
also
toronto,
and
other
municipalities
are
now
requiring
pre-cabling
or
working
ev
charges.
So
I
hope
that
you
can.
You
can
find
a
way
to
include
eb
charging
in
the
hpds.
I
understand
there
are
limitations
due
to
the
due
to
the
legal
authority,
but
if
all
else
fails,
maybe
you
can
look
at
making
charges
external
charges
obligatory
for
new
buildings.
A
J
I
folks
can
go
to
slide
four,
please
so
so
I
am
skipping
the
first
flight
slides
there
because
I
presented
them
before
and
essentially
what
the
first
slide
says
that
we
are
seeing
for
2025
we're
seeing
automakers
globally
predict
to
produce
over
30
of
their
new
cars
will
be
electric
at
that
time,
so
we're
seeing
a
massive
wave
of
electric
vehicles
hitting
the
market.
Why
is
this
an
issue
for
for
rural
areas?
J
Well,
the
more
you
drive,
the
more
evs
are
or
a
good
financial
option
for
you,
and
we
know
that
people
in
rural
areas
seem
to
have
longer
commutes
everything
is
further
for
them,
so
they
need
to
drive
more
the
biggest
impediment,
so
we're
seeing
that
we're
thinking
that,
based
on
our
calculations,
that
by
2030
only
eight
years
from
now
about
30
percent
of
the
fleet,
so
that
that's
not
sales,
that's
the
fleet
will
be
electric.
So
that
means
at
least
30
percent
of
the
new
housing
will
require.
J
Charging
charging
at
home
is
the
cheapest
and
easy,
cheapest
and
easiest
solution,
and
it's
a
big
barrier
to
adoption.
We
hear
all
the
time
of
people
telling
us
that
they
would
love
to
have
an
eevee,
but
they
can't
charge
at
home,
so
they're
not
they're,
not
buying
an
ev
and
hoping
for
the
to
be
able
to
do
so
in
the
future.
Next
slide,
please
so
so
in
ottawa.
Specifically,
there
are
three
parts
of
the
hdp
hpds
that
that
I
would
like
to
see.
J
Some
improvements
in
first
one
is
move
ev
charging
to
tier
one,
make
it
mandatory
immediately.
J
We
had
at
the
provincial
level
a
requirement
for
ev
charging
four
years
ago
was
removed
by
the
the
ford
government,
and
we
are
now
many
many
years
behind
other
jurisdictions
who
have
implemented
mandatory
pre-wiring,
at
least
in
in
many
many
areas
in
north
america
and
elsewhere
in
the
world.
Like
emmerian
said
earlier,
we
need
to
catch
up
on
this.
We
we
can't
wait
for
2024.,
so
we're
suggesting
to
use
the
existing
zoning
text
that
has
been
used
in
other
municipalities
and
implemented
in
in
ottawa.
Next
slide.
Please.
J
The
next
point
is
that
the
the
standard
and
tier
two
provides
for
new
builds
with
level
one
charging.
We
believe
that's
inappropriate
for
new
buildings.
A
level
one
is
is
a
good
compromise
for
existing
buildings,
where
they
have
some
issues,
whether
it's
cost
or
capacity
that
keep
them
from
doing
going
to
level
two.
J
But
we
believe
that
vehicle
to
grid
will
be
a
large
market
going
in
the
future
as
a
solution
to
store
intermittent
green
energy
so
and
and
the
level
two
is
required,
so
230
volt
charging
is
required
for
a
vehicle
to
grid.
So
we
would
like
the
standard
to
reflect
that
we're
not
aware
of
any
other
jurisdiction.
That
is
allowing
level
one.
So
we
we
don't
believe
we
should
be
doing
that
here.
Next
slide,
please!
J
So
the
other
thing
that's
in
the
standard,
that's
a
bit
fuzzy
and-
and
I
would
like
to
see
clarified
as
a
metering
requirement,
the
current
text
talks
about
revenue
metering
capability,
so
that
meters
may
be
installed.
Okay
to
a
portion
of
energy
costs.
The
issue
there
is
that,
if
you're
having
to
use
based
on
this
utility
grade
metering,
that
will
add
at
least
two
thousand
dollars
of
extra
cost
per
charging
station,
which
is
cost-
it's
really
not
necessary.
J
So
so
we're
suggesting
that
this
be
changed
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
end
up
in
a
situation
where
a
ton
of
additional
costs
is
added
in
in
new
bills.
That's
not
really
required,
and
this
would
partially
well
actually
more
than
balance
out
the
extra
cost
of
putting
level
two
in
place
from
the
get
go
instead
of
level
one.
So
I
think
that's
my
last
slide.
J
So
yes,
so
thank
you
chair
and
that's
my
presentation.
A
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
sorry
I'm
having
a
internet
connection
but
problem,
but
I
hope
you
can
hear
me
on
that.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
have
a
quick
question
for
staff
is.
This
is
from
my
understanding
from
the
report.
We
do
have
an
entire
ontario
building
code
regulation
that
was
updated
in
2012
and
we
follow.
E
We
follow
the
building
code
now
since
then,
and
then
now
the
report
asking
for
25
percent
more
efficiency
from
what
we
already
have
now.
This
is
this:
is
it
come
under?
If
I'm
my
understanding,
staff
or
legal
can
answer
this
question?
Are
you
pushing
this
under
the
planning
act
or
under
the
building
code
regulation.
E
Thanks
rebecca,
and
is
that
something
is
that
legal,
I'm
sure
we're
discussing
it
with
legal,
and
this
is
something
above
and
beyond
the
the
building
code
regulation,
if
I'm
so,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,.
E
Thank
you
chris.
My
my
next
question
will
be.
Mr
chair
is:
if
this
is
it's
been
approved
and
we
up
we
vote
on
it
today
and
it
goes
to
council
and
we
implement
that
do.
Is
this:
is
a
staff
we're
going
to
be
able
to
enforce
that
or
this
is
we
need
to
hire
a
consultant
or
engineer
to
be
able
to
enforce
what
we
are
really
putting
in
place.
E
Okay,
the
question
is:
do
you
have
it
in
house
or
are
we
gonna
hire
someone
a
consultant
or
an
engineer
for
us
to
be
able
to
enforce
what
we
are
requesting
right
now
from
the
builders.
C
The
report
recommends
having
a
third-party
energy
model
consultant
to
support
with
the
review
of
the
energy
model
payment
reports,
so
it
would
be
out
outside
outward.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is,
there
is
a
couple
I
I
am
not
against
really
efficiency
or
adding
adding
more
policies,
but
the
thing
is
the
federal
government
budget
today
will
be
front
and
center
about
affordability,
and
then
the
government,
the
provincial
government
and
the
federal
government
they've
been
really
working
hard
to
making
sure
homes
will
be
affordable.
E
This
is
all
the
added
cost
that
we
are
gonna
cost
for
us
to
implement
those.
As
we
heard
from
the
industry,
it's
gonna,
it's
gonna
translate
down
to
the
consumer
because
there
is
no
builder.
It's
gonna
take
the
cost
of
those
a
new
addition
that
what
the
province
really
want
us
to
do,
based
on
the
building
code
of
ontario.
So,
mr
mr
chair,
there
is
a
lots
of
work
to
be
done
with
this.
E
It's
going
to
cost
the
city
money
we're
adding
another
layer
yet
because
this
is
going
to
not
be
enforced
under
the
building
code.
If
you
look
at
from
the
presentation
the
site
plan
on
all
the
approval
has
to
be
submit
way
before
way
before
the
approval.
So
the
result,
the
the
we're
adding
really
more
steps
to
the
approval
and
it's
gonna
delay
things.
So
for
that,
mr
chair,
I
really.
I
cannot
support
that.
I'm
sorry,
maybe
for
langley,
my
lingling
question,
but
that's
that's
where
I
stand
on
that.
Thank
you.
A
D
Thanks
sher,
not
a
question,
but
you
know
it's
there's
several
committee
members
here
who
took
part
in
a
four-hour
conversation
at
planning
committee
on
this,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
first,
certainly
not
as
much
discussion
happening
in
this
meeting
as
we
had
at
planning
committee,
but
I
hope
that
delegations
have
come
out.
D
Don't
don't
consider
a
less
of
a
discussion
here
to
equal
less
of
an
interest
from
committee
members
but
yeah
we,
we
have
had
quite
a
long
debate
on
the
cost.
I
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
echo
what
I
said
at
planning
committee
a
few
weeks
back.
D
I
think
we
also
have
to
look
beyond
just
the
initial
purchase
price
of
a
home
or
a
building
and
look
towards
the
the
long-term
lifespan
and
replacement
costs
of
a
building
or
ongoing
maintenance,
and
I
can
see
where
some
of
the
measures
captured
by
staff
in
this
proposal
would
have
long-term
cost
benefits
to
a
property
owner
a
homeowner
down
the
road.
So
I
always
keep
that
in
mind
as
well.
It's
not
just
the
one-off
purchase
price,
but
the
ongoing
ability
to
keep
maintenance
costs
lower
as
well.
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councillor,
governor
any
other
question
or
comment
from
my
colleague,
counselor
manager.
Thanks.
I
Very
much
chair
really
keep
it
short
appreciate.
This
item
being
here,
we've
worked
with
staff
on
a
motion
for
for
council,
which
is
supported,
and
I
think
I'll
I'll
follow
up
on
the
I've
been
following
up
with
the
two
points
that
were
raised
around
the
electric
charging
stations
and
in
the
native
tree
species
just
offline
with
staff,
but
just
wanted
to
say
really
appreciate,
staff's
work
on
this
thus
far
and
where
we
can
get
from
now
into
the
next
four
year
period.
I
So
just
to
just
thank
you
for
the
work
there.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
menard,
and
thank
you
again
for
joining
us
today
in
this
meeting
and
just
a
little
bit
of
council
gower's
comment.
Really,
if
you
you
know,
if
we
don't
see
quite
a
bit
of
interest
from
the
rural
areas
must
be
seen
in
the
other
part
of
the
city
because,
as
you
saw
on
the
slide,
there's
only
three
application
in
two
years
in
the
rural
area
we'll
have
impact
by
this.
A
So
obviously
we
are
one
team,
one
city,
and
I
mean
when
I
don't
have
to
bring
back
to
you
how
important
resiliency
is
I
had
to
deal
with
two
floods
and
one
tornado
in
four
years,
so
building
something
sustainable
for
the
for
the
future
for
the
for
the
environment
is
is
important
to
all
of
us.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
we
need
to
go
hnas
on
this
report,
but
my
understanding
christine
madame
inter
this
has
gone
back
to
council
and
and
it
has
both
on
the
planet
committee
and
agricultural
rule.
A
A
A
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
ask
the
vice
chair
to
take
the
chair
now
because
this
motion,
first
of
all,
we
need
to
waive
the
rules
to
to
deal
with
this
motion
today.
Can
we
wave
the
rules
on
it
is
timely.
A
Thank
you.
So
let
me
read
the
motion
and
I
think
I
might
have
to
ask
adam
brown
to
give
a
little
bit
of
history
on
it,
because
so
that
the
following
motion
be
considered.
Today's
meeting
pursuant
to
subsection
89
proceeds
by
law,
whereas
law
29
plan,
768
141
kda
hill,
was
registered
as
a
lot
of
plan
of
subdivisions
and
was
due
to
the
presence
and
and
accessory
structure
with
respect
to
allah
29.
There
was
a
possible
income
in
compliance
with
respect
to
the
zoning
and
whereas
to
eliminate
the
possible
incompliance
lot.
A
29,
30
and
31
were
be
registered
as
a
lot
on
plan
of
subdivision,
with
an
enactment
of
bylaw
of
the
township
of
west
carton
and
whereas
a
sale
of
141
kelly
hill
law
29
has
occurred
and
whereas
any
structures
accessory
to
law
29
are
to
be
removed
there
for
vietnamese
are
that
the
agriculture
rural
affairs
committee
recommend
to
council
that
the
bylaw
49
of
1999
at
the
township
of
west
carton
be
repealed
in
respect
of
law.
29
plan
768..
A
D
I
You,
mr
chair,
yes,
we
were
advised
that
the
owner
of
lot
29
wishes
to
convey
it
separately.
I
Currently
from
my
understanding,
the
same
owner
owns
lots,
29,
30
and
31,
but
they
wish
to
convey
lot
29
separately
and
when
there
was
some
research
done
by
their
legal
counsel
or
the
purchaser's
legal
counsel,
it
was
determined
that
west
carlton
township
back
in
1999
had
deregistered
the
subdivision
for
these
three
particular
lots
due
to
some
sort
of
issue
regarding
compliance
with
zoning
in
I
don't
know
what
exactly
happened
in
1999
mr
chair,
but
that
was
the
solution
that
the
township
took
at
the
time.
I
Now
we're
confident
that
lot,
29
itself
is
in
compliance
or
can
be
put
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
bylaw
and
can
be
conveyed
separately
and
mr
mark
and
perhaps
miss
anta
as
well,
has
done
some
research
to
to
determine
that.
In
fact,
we
can
repeal
a
part
of
that
1999
bylaw
to
allow
such
a
conveyance
to
proceed
and
misenta
may
need
to
correct
me
or
update
no
she's
shaking
her
head.
I
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
this
clarification.
Any
question
from
my
colleague
seeing
us.
Can
we
carry
this
motion
kerry
aaron.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
I
I
believe,
item
five
within
I.
I
spoke
about
quickly.
The
office
of
the
city,
clerk
status,
update
agricultural
refresh
committee
inquiries
and
motion
for
the
period
ending
march
25th
2022
that
the
agriculture
and
world
affair
committee
received
this
report
for
information.
A
Can
we
receive
it
christie?
Thank
you.
I
believe
we
have
someone
registered
to
speak
at
the
open
mic
session.
A
Yes,
you're
right,
council
mafia,
my
policy-
I
don't
have
them
from
me,
but
I
trust
staff.
You
have
it
kelly,
you
know,
can
you
share
it
with
us,
scott
thompson,
office
or
adam,
or
somebody
share
it
on
the
screen.
K
D
A
A
So
yes,
go
ahead?
Awesome
often.
K
Thanks
so
it's
a
bit
of
a
unique
situation,
something
I've
never
had
to
bring
before.
But
here
we
are
it's
a
as
I
mentioned
it's
a
committee
of
adjustment
decision
that
the
city
has
appealed
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal,
so
I'll
just
read
it
because
it
kind
of
provides
the
context
of
it
and
I
can
touch
on
that
any
additional
further
information
required.
So
where's.
K
The
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
that
to
council
that
legal
services
staff
be
directed
to
withdraw
the
city's
appeal
to
of
the
committee
of
adjustment
decision
of
this
consent
to
sever
application
at
1962,
brophy
drive.
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
confusing
one,
because
it's
the
policy
is
pretty
clear.
We
don't
permit
severances
in
the
agriculture
resource
area.
This,
though,
comes
along
with
another
application,
so
there's
there's
two
land
parcels
one's
a
much
larger
parcel
one's,
a
smaller
parcel
and
essentially
what's
happening.
K
So
obviously
I
I
fully
respect
the
the
policy
position
of
staff,
but
I
do
not
believe
that
communities
were
aired
in
their
decision
making.
Here
I
think
they
looked
at
the
situation.
I
think
they
saw
that
there's
no
net
loss
in
agricultural
land
because
of
the
situation
that
exists
today.
There
is
no
new
creation
of
a
of
a
of
a
dwelling
lot
in
the
rural
area.
A
Obviously
I
want
to
thank
you
for
having
the
meeting
with
me
and
the
vice
chair.
I
want
to
thank
adam
and
staff
also
for
meeting
with
us
explaining
the
situation.
Mr
brown,
I
don't
know
if
you
wish
to
comment
or
not,
but
if
you
like,
give
you
the
opportunity,
I
know
a
staff's
position.
As
you
mentioned
council
market,
you
know
they
are
the
historian
of
the
policy
and
they
follow
the
policy.
A
My
biggest
concern
was
loss
of
agricultural
land
and
I
think
you
said
it
three
times
there
will
be
no
no
net
loss
to
agricultural
land.
With
this,
it's
just
a
policy,
a
staff,
obviously
respecting
the
policy
but
and
this
one
off
I
feel
personally
comfortable
to
not
to
go
forward
with
the
appeal.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
any
other
council
have
any
comment
on.
If
it's
not
that's
my
position,
I
I
would
support
the
counselor's
motion
on
this
one.
A
A
That's
no
other
business,
but
we
do
have
our
next
meeting
is
thursday
may
5th,
and
is
the
person
for
the
open
mic
present?
Is
here?
Sorry,
I
think
that
the
name
is
mike
mike
okay,
mr
baggett,
I
believe
you
have
registered
speaker
to
open
mic
session.
You
have
five
minutes
to
speak,
go
ahead.
L
Thank
you
for
the
time
to
speak
today,
river
residents
have
heard
loud
and
clear
that
ottawa
wants
to
get
it
right
when
it
comes
to
zoning
for
wind
turbines
and
has
been
given
that
power
by
the
province.
This
is
definitely
an
opportunity
for
ottawa.
District
leadership
next
slide,
please.
L
So
I'm
here
representing
ottawa
wind
concerns
we've
been
an
organization
of
volunteers
which
started
in
north
korea
in
2008.
I
joined
the
board
in
2011
and
we've
been
briefing
over
the
years.
Some
of
the
councillors
who
are
on
this
committee
since
about
2012.
L
next
slide,
please
so
there
are
about
2,
500,
wind
turbines,
represented
by
the
green
dots
here,
and
you
can
see
they're
mostly
on
the
shores
of
the
great
lakes
or
possibly
on
in
the
sun,
on
wolf
island
and
though
the
will
the
wind
does
blow
intermittently.
This
is
definitely
where
the
wind
blows
next
slide.
Please.
L
L
L
First
of
all,
they
described
the
health
impacts
that
you
see
in
front
of
you,
headaches,
noise,
panic,
vertigo,
anxiety,
etc,
etc.
These
are
all
categorized
as
annoyance.
If
I
had
those,
I
would
be
pretty
annoyed,
and
the
second
thing
they
said
was
that
their
study
did
not
really
set
out
to
prove
cause
and
effect.
L
L
With
respect
to
industrial
safety,
these
turbines
are
big.
People,
don't
realize
how
big
they
are.
They're,
really
big
if
you've
never
seen
one
up
close
drive
an
hour
from
city
column
from
city
hall,
70,
kilometers
down
to
stone
north
stormont
and
stand
under
one,
the
blades
about
450
feet.
Long,
that's
about
a
bit
longer
than
two
watt
was
set
in
the
center's
wings
laid
end
to
end
and
they're
about
five
up
to
550
feet.
L
The
second
point
shows
about
11
and
you
might
say,
only
11
failures
which
have
been
documented
of
these
things,
but
every
one
of
these
failures
is
a
major
incident
and
a
picture
being
worth
a
thousand
words
we're
going
to
very
quickly
look
at
what
these
all
look
like
next
slide,
please!
L
L
Okay,
thank
you
next
slide.
Please
next
slide.
Please.
We
need
environmental
protection
for
birds.
Next
slide,
please,
okay,
we'll
get
to
the
last
two
slides
that'll
be
extremely
quick.
The
green
energy
acts
had
setbacks
of
550
meters.
They
were
never
changed.
The
setbacks
from
public
roads
and
railways
were
not
enough.
L
L
This,
my
apologies.
This
is
the
last
slide.
Okay,
okay,
go
ahead!
Thank
you.
So
our
proposal
is
that
two
kilometers
setbacks
to
property
lines
are
appropriate.
One
kilometer
setbacks
to
public
roads.
Railways
are
exact
necessary
and
that
we
need
environmental
protection
studies
not
just
for
birds,
but
I
understand
that,
based
on
a
study
last
night
that
came
out
also
the
impact
of
well
waters
and
aquifers
and
the
only
thing
which.
A
L
You
have
bought
my
presentation
and
you
have
two
of
the
most
relevant
reports
that
I
cited
here
for
your
planners
to
study
and
there
is
other
information
should
they
so
wish.
K
Thanks
for
just
I
wish
them
a
comment,
thank
you
for
coming
here
today
and,
and
also
just
to
remind,
I
think,
I've
shared
with
you
in
the
past
that
there
will
be
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this,
as
the
city
develops
its
its
zoning
bylaw
for
the
entire
city,
because
we
aren't
just
updating
the
previous
zoning
bylaw
we're
drafting
a
new
one,
which
is
something
we
haven't
done
in
many
years,
so
that
that'll
be
the
opportunity.
There
will
be
obviously
immense
conversation
on
that
on
that
process
and
in
the
meantime,
it's
also
important
to
know.
K
If
anyone
listen
mike
knows
this,
but
to
anyone
listening
that
there
isn't,
there
is
no
current
process
to
apply
for
industrial
wind
turbines
of
the
nature
present
in
the
report
in
ontario.
At
the
moment,
of
course,
we
know
that
could
always
change,
but
it
does
look
like
things
should
line
up
well
for
the
city,
considering
potential
setbacks
and
zoning
against
any
potential
future
development
application
that
could
come.
Should
the
province
create
a
new
process
to
do
so.
L
Thank
you
again.
Can
I
follow
up
and
find
out
how
how
and
if
we
can
engage
in
that
later
process?
May
I
send
you
an
email,
yeah.
A
Okay,
with
that
we'll
receive
that
presentation
and
next
meeting
is
may
5th
in
german
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
folks
and
have
a
great
day.