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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee - April 6, 2023
B
So
good
morning,
everyone
to
our
agricultural
Affair
committee,
April
6
beautiful
day
outside
and
I,
want
to
thank
the
people
on
the
audience.
I
know
most
of
us
have
power
and
no
power,
but
it's
really
brutal
outside,
but
hopefully
everybody
is
safe
and
I'm.
Sure
there
is
a
update
will
be
coming
from
the
city
later
on,
but
I
want
to
appreciate
the
people
on
my
colleague
that
they're
on
zoom
and
they're
here
I
know
some
of
them.
B
Actually,
the
three
of
us
have
no
power
in
our
houses
and
internet,
so
we're
here
perfectly
safely
and
thanks
for
that,
so
so
our
meeting
this
morning
it's
gonna
be
very
short
and
sweet,
but
as
a
chair
statement
we
have
a
republic
for
public
hearing
or
for
op
and
Zoning
items.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
Zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
4.2
and
4.3
on
today's
agenda.
B
B
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning
boiler,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
Amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
Amendment
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
labor,
12
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
Council
coordinator
before
we
move
to
item
number
two
I'll
ask
the
coordinator
to
have
a
local.
Please.
B
B
Thank
you
number
four
on
the
agenda:
our
planning
real
estate
and
economy,
Development
Department.
We,
it
is
4.1
on
the
agenda.
It's
a
right
away:
patio
by
law,
update
and
new
Urban
Design
guideline
for
commercial
patios
I,
the
I
ask
staff.
If
we
need
this
presentation,
but
my
colleague
we
already
went
through
this
transportation
and
the
planning,
so
we
have
our
staff
Mark,
Young
and
Laureen
dinardo.
If
anyone
have
a
question
for
them
because
we're
not
going
to
go
through
the
presentation,
sorry
for
but
I'm
sure
you're.
B
B
Is
that
okay?
Karen?
Thank
you
that's!
Thank
you
very
much.
4.2.
We
have
a
front
ending
agreement
report
at
magnific
water
main
link
phase
two.
We
have
no
presentation,
we
have
no
delegation
and
no
correspondence.
I
already
spoke
also
to
councilor
Brown
and
he's
also
aware
of
the
report
and
he's
in
agreement
with
the
report.
So
anyone
have
a
question
so
report
recommendation.
B
Three.
Pursuant
to
set
agreement
upon
receipt.
The
above
the
Scribe
fund
authorized
the
city
to
Tender,
drawing
and
specification
for
the
set
work
and
provide
contract,
Administration
and
site
inspection
for
their
construction
and
pursuant
to
set
agreement,
authorize
Financial
disbursement
to
reimburse
mental
Community
Inc
by
way
of
development
charges,
credits
to
an
upset
limit
of
12,
800,
212
plus
applicable
taxes
through
the
magnetic
area,
specific
development
charges
and,
in
accordance
with
said
agreement
all
in
favor
good
caring.
B
Thank
you
that
items
get
it
also.
So,
thank
you
very
much
4.3.
We
have
a
Clark
and
that's
not
your
clerk.
Now
we
have
a
Clark
Municipal
drain
and
we
have
our
staff
Dave
Ryan
here.
If
we
have
any
question
or
a
concern
thanks
for
coming
here
this
morning,
Dave,
we
have
no
presentation,
no
delegation
and
no
correspondence.
B
The
report
is
that
the
agricultural
Affair
Community
recommend
that
Council
give
these
three
readings
to
the
boiler
attached
as
a
document
to
to
this
report
to
provide
for
the
abandon
of
the
Clark
Municipal
Reign
East
Main
drain
for
sta
zero,
plus
zero,
zero
to
sta,
14,
plus
31
and
West
Main
drain
from
zero
plus
zero
zero
sta
plus
8
plus
58,
located
in
Lot
12
and
13
concession
3,
former
Township
of
Nepean
barhaven
Westward
under
subsection85
84
5
of
the
drainage
act.
Do
you
have
any
question?
B
B
And
we'll
give
you
10
minutes
each.
If
you
want
you
just
it's
it's
a
it's
a
tough
day
to
drive
around
and
you
made
it
here.
So
we
gotta
accommodate
you
and
it's
always
nice
to
see
both
of
you
here
at
Iraq
and
I
know.
Mr
Holmes
is
a
regular
in
our
committee.
So
we're
happy
to
have
him
and
you
Megan
too.
E
We
go
go
ahead,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
staff
on
the
work.
That's
been
done
in
this
room
for
the
the
quality
of
the
Acoustics.
It's
normally
very
terrible
and
it's
I'm
impressed
with
the
Improvement.
So
congratulations
to
the
staff
on
that
Mr
chair
today,
I'm
speaking
to
you
as
the
rural
representative
on.
E
Working
group
earlier
this
week,
I
sent
you
a
copy
of
the
terms
of
reference
of
the
that
group.
There
are
not
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
the
the
rural
voice
to
be
heard,
but
the
ambassador's
working
group
is
one
that
can
be
used
specifically
during
the
official
planning
process.
You
may
want
to
discuss
that
aspect
later
on
during
your
questions
next
slide.
Please.
E
About
a
year
ago,
the
first
draft
of
the
transportation
master
plan
shared
the
same
weakness
that
is
evident
in
the
new
official
plan
in
that
official
plan,
despite
the
ambitious
Mobility
Big
Move
That
hopes
to
have
more
than
half
of
the
city's
transportation
to
be
by
sustainable
means.
That
plan
failed
to
recognize
that
the
rural
area
needed
to
be
included
within
that
goal.
E
E
E
That
document
is
a
good
starting
point
for
both
rural
residents
and
non-rural
residents
to
understand
the
unique
as
of
rural
Ottawa.
The
document
gives
a
good
dealing
with
the
unique
situation
and
the
challenges
of
the
rural
residents.
It
recognizes
the
reality
and
the
challenges
of
a
low
population
density
and
our
dispersed
population.
E
E
E
This
slide
reminds
of
how
the
entirety
of
rural
residents
would
benefit
from
better
transportation.
Every
age
group,
from
youth
through
young
adult
through
adults
and
seniors,
would
benefit
from
improved
Transportation
options
when
dealing
with
the
need
for
Rural
Transportation.
The
current
set
of
TMP
policies
is
far
too
limiting.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
The
policy
shouldn't
appear
as
an
afterthought,
as
it
seems
to
now,
and
the
document
should
elaborate
on
those
needs
in
the
same
way
that
it
does,
for
example,
for
the
active
Transportation
topic
Mr
chair.
That
includes
my
presentations.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
prepared
to
answer
them
along
with
my
colleague,
Megan.
B
Thank
you
very
much
both
of
you
for
attending
this
morning
and
I
I'll
leave
my
question
till
the
end,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleague
if
they
have
a
question.
I
also
want
to
assure
you
that
most
of
the
counselor
that
and
or
Eric
also
are
at
Transportation
committee.
So
we
will.
We
are
well
represented
at
this
committee
also,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
C
I'm
just
backing
up
cam
today,
right
on
a
good
team.
Thank
you,
Bill
for
coming
I've
chatted
with
both
of
you
at
length
about
some
of
these
issues
and
the
various
aspects
that
come
up
in
regards
to
real
Transportation.
So
thank
you
again
to
both
of
you
for
the
work
that
you
do
and
Mr
Holmes
I
know
that
we
spoke
about
the
public
consultation
aspect
of
these
plans
on
several
occasions.
C
E
My
experience
there
is
a
a
huge
gap
between
the
documentation,
that's
produced
by
staff
like
the
transportation
master
plan
and
the
individual
resident.
The
plans,
like
the
official
plan,
are
something
like
150
200
Page
document.
Your
average
resident
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
wallow
through
that
sort
of
a
document
unless
somebody
points
them
in
the
right
direction,
points
them
to
areas
that
we
think
their
attention
might
be
best
directed.
E
E
That's
not
a
new
problem.
That
problem
was
recognized
years
ago,
and
it
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
that
the
veteran
Council
started,
the
the
rural
Summits.
We
had
rural
Summit,
one
in
2005,
Earl,
Summit
2
in
2008
and
with
a
commitment
by
Council
to
have
a
rural
Summit
conducted
once
for
every
term
of
counsel.
E
That
was
three
terms
of
counsel
ago,
so
the
rural
Summit
that
was
intended
to
be
a
major
focal
point
to
get
the
rural
audience
together
to
discuss
common
points
of
concern
and
to
develop
some
recommendations.
That
mechanism
does
not
exist
and
the
rural
voice
was
supposed
to
be
very
much
based
on
the
rural
Summits.
So
that
mechanism
is
gone.
E
I've
seen
a
couple
of
their
reports,
they're
very
good.
Unfortunately,
we've
lost
the
advisory
committee.
The
the
mayor
decided
to
basically
dispense
with
all
advisory
committees,
except
those
that
were
mandated
by
the
province
of
Ontario,
so
that
second
mechanism
that
provided
Iraq
and
Rural
counselors
a
professional
opportunity
to
discuss
major
areas,
that's
gone.
E
So
the
three
mechanisms
that
were
intended
to
exist
to
fill
that
void
between
these
pre
plans
and
the
rural
resident
they're
all
gone
so
I
know
I'm
not
allowed
to
ask
questions,
but
my
question
is
is
basically
to
the
rural
counselors.
What
what
can
you
do
to
recreate
some
sort
of
mechanisms
to
fill
that
void
between
the
large
plans
and
the
small
resident
to
ensure
that
the
rule
of
voice
is
heard
and
the
proper
input
is
provided
in
a
timely
manner
in
order
to
get
amendments,
changes
and
improvements?
E
C
I
hate
to
see
the
longer
answer:
I
have
no
I
just
say:
okay,
I
appreciate
it,
and
it's
funny
that
you.
You
mentioned
that,
because
of
what
my
first
motion
at
Council
was
to
direct
the
rural
office
to
come
back
with
options
for
a
real
Summit,
this
term
of
council,
and
when
we
were
doing
our
farm
tour.
C
I
was
sitting
beside
one
of
the
one
of
the
three
staff
at
the
rural
office
and
they
were
explaining
to
me
that
they
are
short
staffed
and
have
don't
have
the
number
of
resources
that
they
need
to
get
those
options
back
to
council
within
the
time
period
that
was
asked
of
during
the
in
the
motion.
So
I
just
found
that
interesting
that
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
bring
back
the
summit,
which
gave
the
resources
originally
undirected.
C
Staff
to
you
know,
look
at
some
of
these
issues
more
deeply
in
a
in
a
meaningful
way,
and
thank
you
for
your
question.
I'd
love
to
think
more
deeply
about
how
we
can
do
that.
Do
you
have
any
suggestions
for
us
as
counselors,
like
that
you
experienced
over
your
work
on
this
ambassador's
group
had
how
we
could
fill
that
void.
Well,.
E
Certainly,
the
the
starting
point
is
that
the
rural
office
has
has
to
be
enacted
empowered,
as
was
originally
intended.
I
appreciate
there
was
a.
It
was
a
very
significant
change
in
in
philosophy.
Originally,
when
the
rural
office
was
formed,
it
was
created
as
a
almost
a
physical
office,
so
you
had
that
staff
of
five
to
eight
people
working
together
when
the
former
city
manager
did
a
reorganization
of
Staff.
E
He
decided
to
use
a
different
approach
so,
instead
of
having
let's
say
the
the
environmental
representation
sitting
in
the
rural
office,
it
was
sitting
in
the
the
environmental
office
with
a
focus
on
some
on
Rural
Affairs.
So
either
either
approach
to
management
could
work,
but
there
has
to
be
men
and
they
have
to
have
a
mandate
and
I.
E
It
could
do
with
a
little
bit
of
tweaking
and
updating
like
most
of
them,
but
it
covers
all
of
the
major
points.
So
somehow
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
ensure
that
the
rural
lens
is
being
applied
to
all
of
these
Master
documents.
Now
that
has
to
be
the
rural
office
so,
and
that
has
to
be
one
of
their
priorities
in
most
of
the
other
areas
where
many
of
the
other
areas
where
we
have
an
equity
and
inclusion
lens.
There
is
a
specific
staff
identified.
E
So
we
have
the
the
the
the
gender
lens.
That's
used.
You've
got
the
the
new
Canadian
lens,
that's
being
used,
but
the
documents
go
to
a
particular
office
and
look
for
specific
comments
through
that
lens
I.
Don't
see
the
evidence
that
that
practice
is
being
used
with
rural
lens
and
the
rural
office.
So
in
terms
of
a
first
step
that
has
to
be
one.
E
The
the
average
citizen
will
not
learn
about
the
current
draft
of
the
transportation
master
plan,
probably
until
the
Friday
the
day
before
the
transportation
committee
meeting,
so
they
will
have
the
better
part
of
three
or
four
days.
No
we've
got
to
be
realistic.
Do
we
expect
to
engage
the
average
resident
I'm
a
cold
start
with
140
page
document
that
staff
has
been
working
on
for
a
year
and
and
provide
meaningful
input
either
to
the
counselors,
a
rack
or
to
engage,
engage
Ottawa
and
the
the
TMP
team?
So
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
nonsense.
C
I
can't
say:
I
disagree
with
you,
Mr
Holmes
on
that,
and
it's
something
that
I
would
like
to
to
improve
over
the
next
few
years
and
then
finally,
I
guess.
My
last
question
just
maybe
give
us
a
sense
of
some
of
the
rural
Transportation
solutions
that
you're
discussing
and
coming
up
with.
Just
maybe
briefly
give
us
a
highlight
of
some
of
those
Solutions.
My.
E
Last
question:
I:
don't
know
if
I
have
a
have
a
slide
there
with
the
rural
Transportation
solutions.
Group
has
been
working
for
the
better
part
of
a
two
of
two
years,
trying
to
gather
information
from
from
counselors
and
residents
and
other
interested
groups
as
to
what
they
see
as
their
need
for
transportation.
E
I've
been
working
well
with
the
transportation
master
plan,
the
origin
destination
study
and
what
other
group
an
OC
transport
gathering
information
on
on
where
we
are
and
where
we
think
we
we
may
be
going.
One
of
the
more
interesting
documents
was
a
presentation
by
OC
transport
to
council
back
in
September
2002.
E
So
shortly
after
amalgamation,
where
OC
transmo
then
presented
two
Council
an
outline
of
what
they
thought
needed
to
be
done
in
the
rural
area,
to
improve
transportation
of
that
list
about
two-thirds
were
were
implemented,
but
there's
still
a
third
that
that
weren't
implemented
so
we're
going
to
be
working
with
groups,
Villages
Community
associations
and
counselors
to
go
back
to
that
document.
Look
at
those
one-third
that
were
not
implemented
and
see
how
they
could
be
added
to
the
current
OC
transpose
system
to
improve
Transportation.
E
The
plans
that
were
developed
back
in
2002
are
quite
dated
in
that
their
focus
was.
How
do
we
get
the
rural
folks
downtown
to
work
if
our
Focus
now
in
the
rural
areas
is
economic
development?
We've
got
to
look
at
it
through
the
other
end
of
the
telescope
and
how
do
we
get
people
from
downtown
out
to
the
rural
areas?
You
probably
had
a
couple
of
conversations
with
my
my
colleague
from
the
the
carp
Road
Corridor
business
Improvement
agency.
E
E
E
So
the
the
solution
to
that
seems
to
be
heading
in
the
direction
of
a
of
a
minibus
shuttle
bus
system
with
with
an
on-demand
backbone,
working
on
a
fixed
schedule,
but
variable
stops
depending
on
the
demand
and
that
will
get
people
to
their
nearest
Village
or
from
their
Village
to
the
to
their
next
destination
throughout
the
day.
So
that's
that's
generally,
where
we're
we're
heading.
F
If
I
can
just
add
to
to
Ken's
response
there,
the
youth
side
of
things
so
we're
also
doing
a
survey
right
now
for
real
youth.
All
the
rural
City
councilors
have
been
very
kind
to
send
that
out.
Thank
you.
We've
had
over
I
think
520
responses
from
rural
youth,
which
we're
really
happy
with
that's
really
great
and
transportation.
Is
the
number
two
issue
I
looked
at
it
yesterday.
F
The
survey
doesn't
close
until
the
11th
of
April,
but
so
far
it's
number
two
that
is
the
biggest
second
biggest
barrier
to
youth
accessing
Mental,
Health
Services
in
the
city
of
Ottawa.
So
it
is,
you
know,
a
glaring
issue
over
and
over
that
youth.
Don't
have
the
ability
to
move
from
the
rural
Villages
into
the
city
to
access
those
services
that
they
desperately
need
to
need
to
to
attend
to,
to.
You
know,
make
sure
that
they
are
mentally
well
and
not
in
crisis.
A
A
A
Is
something
that
we
can
that
we
can
look
at
when
it
comes
to?
You
know
ensuring
that
we're
getting
proper
feedback
from
rural
residents
on
this
issue?
It's
like
something
over
like
four
or
five
dozen
events
in
different
areas
across
the
city
and
it
allowed
residents
to
shape
the
vision
prior
to
a
report
being
produced,
and
so,
like
all
of
that
information
was
taken
out.
We
had
you,
know
children
drawing
pictures
of
what
they
thought.
A
A
You
know
to
work,
live
and
play
in
their
neighborhood
as
well
as
take
advantage
of
the
fact
that
we
are
an
Amalgamated,
City,
For,
Better
or
For
Worse,
with
loads
of
amenities
in
other
areas,
being
able
to
move
about
your
own
neighborhood
being
able
to
to
work
in
the
city
and
being
able
to
visit
your
closest
Village
if
you're
living
on
the
outskirts
of
a
rural
area
or
things
that
are
really
important
things
that
we
need
to
look
at
and
I
just
really
appreciate
you
coming
outside.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
D
Yeah,
just
a
quick
comment:
I,
don't
have
much
to
add
to
what
my
colleagues
already
said,
but
just
that
I
I
do
agree
with
you.
I
think
over
time
there
has
been
a
diminishment
in
the
the
rural
voice
on
on
key
files
and
that
come
before
the
city
and
meaningful
engagement,
but
I
I
do
think
that
you've
got
counselors
on
this
committee
that
are
committed
to
strengthening
that
and
bringing
it
back
so
I
just
wanted
to.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
D
B
Thank
you,
Council
kit,
I
I,
just
want
to
Echo
some
of
the
comment
that
has
been
floating
around
and
I
want
to.
Thank
both
of
you.
First
of
all,
to
come
to
our
airlock
and
that's
what's
important
for
us
to
leave
an
open
mic.
I
know
it's.
Probably
the
open
mic
is
taking
us
longer
than
the
meeting,
but
those
are
important.
Issues
relate
to
our
community,
not
only
myself.
B
Every
Council
of
sitting
on
that
on
that
Community
we
Echo,
we
understand,
we
hear
you
I,
have
a
couple
small
questions
concerning
the
the
survey
that
you're
putting
out
every
village
and
every
area
in
the
city.
I
know
it's
a
one
with
one
city
city
of
Ottawa,
but
every
village
pay
a
Transit
level
different.
Have
you
ever
looked
at
those
components,
because
in
my
in
my
unique
world,
for
instance,
per
se,
our
rural
resident,
they
don't
pay,
we
don't
pay
less
than
Travis
they're
different
than
magnetic
magnetic
is
different
than
car.
B
Carp
is
different
than
Cumberland,
so
have
you
looked
at
in
one
lens?
What
this
is
going
to
reflect
and
how
this
is
going
to
reflect?
And
will
you
because
I
looked
at
the
survey
and
it
doesn't
show
asking
people
if
they
really
want
to
pay
for
it,
and
it's
going
to
come
back
down
to
who's,
going
to
pay
for
that
right
and
I'm?
B
Being
honest
and
Frank
with
you,
because
I
personally
I,
don't
think
my
ruler
resident
want
to
pay
10
or
11
or
12
percent
extra
on
their
tax
to
have
a
transit
or
to
have
that
so
I'm
not
saying
we
won't
I'm,
just
saying
I
hear
it
loud
and
clear
at
the
doors
when
I
talk
to
my
community
and
then
I'm
I'm,
seeing
most
of
more
more
and
more
changes
in
our
communities
like.
If
you
look
at
the
Village
of
Greeley,
you
look
at
the
Village
of
Osgood
or
the
village
of
Metcalf.
B
E
E
But
they
also
know
as
a
bit
of
a
a
benchmark
that
if
they
were
to
take
Transportation
like
the
the
service
offered
by
some
of
the
the
triple
p
connection
routes,
it
would
likely
cost
them
between
10
and
15
dollars
for
for
a
ride.
So
they've
got
that
as
a
benchmark.
So
one
of
the
the
models
that
we've
used
is
what
would
you
think
of
the
option
of
paying
of
the
rider
paying
75
of
the
cost,
as
opposed
to
the
50
of
the
cost?
And,
surprisingly,
of
those
three
options?
E
It's
split
almost
evenly,
but
we
will
be
developing
that
OC
Transpo
has
given
us
some
some
good
information
on
what
a
route
would
cost.
So,
certainly
in
the
early
stages,
we
can
look
at
the
the
express
bus
package
and
and
give
people
some
some
very
firm
options
as
to
what
it
would
cost
for
a
ticket
and
what
it
would
cost
on
the
taxes.
E
I
think
one
of
the
aspects
that
we've
got
to
look
at
is,
and
I
mentioned,
that
I
think
during
the
the
survey
2
presentation
is
that
perhaps
we've
got
to
look
at
a
different
way
to
fund
OC
transport
in
in
the
rural
areas,
and
it's
not
just
for
OC
train
principle.
It's
also
for
transpo.
We've
got
to
look
at
a
different
model.
The
situations
are
different
enough
that
you
can't
take
a
city,
Rule
and
say
it
applies
in
into
the
rural
area.
B
B
We
have
some
solution,
we'll
be
working
closely
and,
and
there
is
only
two
other
things-
I
heard
you
loud
and
clear:
I
heard
you
loud
and
clear:
I
know
counselor
Clark
and
Council
Clark
and
councilor,
Brown
and
I.
Had
those
discussion
concerning
the
rule,
total
Summit
and
yes,
I
never
been
on
one
I've
been
elected
in
2014
and
I
know.
We
haven't
had
one
of
those,
but
I
was
talking
to
councilor
kit
and
I
counselor
Lou
love
and
this
this
committee
are
willing
and
we
are
working
together
collectively.
B
I
know
we
might
have
some
challenges,
we
have
official
plan,
we
have
so
many
workload
on
us
right
now,
but
I
assure
you
will
take
this
offline
and
we'll
be
you'll
hearing
from
us
and
then
so
you'll
be
very
happy
and
and
be
able
to
con,
be
conduit
to
our
rural
residents
and
making
sure
we
are
literally
hearing
them
and
we
don't
wait
the
last
two
three
days
to
give
them
the
consultation
and
get
their
answers
from
it.
So
we
assure
you
that
work
is
it's.
This
is
in
the
work
and
I
know.
B
E
I
could
make
one
of
your
areas
It's,
Our
intention
after
we
complete
survey.
Three
and
I
have
a
good
start
on
the
business
models
to
then
go
out
and
do
some
good
public
consultation.
You
know,
hopefully
with
each
of
the
each
of
the
28
different
rural
Villages,
so
we
can
present
them
some
fairly
concrete
plans
on
a
map
to
show
where
the
roots
are
with
the
the
costing
options
and
ask
them
for
some
very
specific
feedback.
So
that's
that's
the
next
big
step.
Once
we
finish
with
the
the
survey
process.
B
And
we're
looking
forward
for
it,
so
I
will
be
working
with
with
your
group,
we're
making
sure
we
do
a
proper
and
thorough
public
consultation
and
and
mean
so
we'll
we'll
we'll
be
working
with
you.
So
thank
you
very
much
this
morning
for
coming
and
Megan.
We
appreciate
your
input
and
I
know
that
you
do
lots
of
work
behind
the
scene
and
it's
not
only
both
of
you.
You
have
a
group
volunteer
and
many
other
communities
working
with
you,
so
we
thank
them
from
behalf
of
Iraq.