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From YouTube: Built Heritage Sub-Committee - September 13, 2018
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Built Heritage Sub-Committee meeting - September 13, 2018 – Audio Stream
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A
We're
going
to
get
started,
we
have
no
regrets
to
date
at
any
declarations
of
interest.
I
seen
them.
Can
we
confirm
the
minutes
of
our
meeting
on
Thursday
at
a
2nd
of
august
2018?
Are
they
okay?
Okay,
great
thank
you.
So
we
have
two
substantive
items
on
our
agenda
for
which
we
have
speakers
on
both
items.
A
So
the
first
relates
to
the
renovation
of
the
original
house,
construction
of
the
rear
addition
at
119,
York
Street
and
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
and,
as
I
said
there,
there
are
speakers
for
that
item
and
then
our
second
item
is
an
application
to
alter
the
Medical
Arts
Building
in
180
Metcalf
Street.
Lastly,
when
we
get
to
other
business,
we're
going
to
have
a
staff
update
on
Somerset
House,
but
we'll
get
to
that
later
in
the
agenda.
A
So,
given
that
there
are
speakers
on
both
items,
we're
not
going
to
pass
either
on
consent
and
we'll
go
to
our
first
item,
which,
as
I
said,
is
relates
to
119
York
Street,
a
properly
designated
under
profile
to
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
We're
going
to
start
with
a
brief
update
from
staff
and
then
we'll
go
to
our
public
delegations.
B
My
colorblind
good
morning,
everyone,
this
application,
is
for
the
alteration
to
a
designated
property
at
119
York
Street
in
the
Byward
market,
Heritage
Conservation
District.
The
proposal
includes
demolition
of
non
historic,
real
additions,
the
construction
of
the
new
rear
addition,
some
restoration
work
on
the
original
house
and
landscape
modifications.
B
The
original
building
is
in
relatively
good
condition
with
most
heritage
architectural
elements
intact,
including
the
cornerstone
coins,
the
cobbled
windows
forms
decorative
bargeboard
and
the
curved
finial.
The
original
windows
on
the
front
facade
have
been
replaced
recently
with
unsympathetic
contemporary
windows,
which
are
not
fitted
properly
to
the
original,
slightly
arched
openings
and
seen
in
the
middle
photograph.
Above.
B
B
B
The
photo
on
the
left
indicates
the
current
state
of
the
front
yard,
as
well
as
the
public
in
front
of
419
York
Street,
although
there
is
a
healthy,
mature
tree,
seen
in
the
photo
above,
the
space
is
otherwise
dominated
by
deteriorating
pavements
and
informal
parking
spot.
An
offense
surrounding
the
private
patio.
The
photo
on
the
right
shows
the
shared
driveway
that
separates
the
subject:
property
from
its
Western
neighbor,
the
two-story
horse
stable,
is
visible
in
the
distance,
along
with
the
seventh
storey
condo
building.
B
In
the
background,
the
existing
conditions
in
front
of
the
subject
property
are
contrasted
by
the
well
landscape
public
space,
located
in
the
right-of-way
immediately
to
the
west
of
119
X
3,
and
extending
to
the
intersection
of
your
Kindle
housing.
As
mentioned
earlier
in
this
presentation,
the
existing
rear
additions
are
to
be
d'amour
to
be
removed
their
one-story
in
height
and
are
identified
in
the
plan.
Above
these
additions
do
not
have
cultural
heritage
value.
B
The
site
plan
shows
the
removal,
the
existing
rear
additions,
the
retention
of
the
original
structure,
the
need
to
an
a
story
or
addition
and
considerable
landscape
interventions
both
on
the
subject
property,
the
adjacent
property
with
which
the
driveway
is
shared
and
on
the
public
located
in
front
of
the
building.
The
landscape
initiatives
are
to
add
ground
cover
plantings
around
the
existing
mature
tree
to
add
an
oval-shaped
garden
in
front
of
the
property
and
to
replace
the
asphalt
driveway
in
its
entirety
with
brick
pavers.
B
These
pavers
will
also
extend
into
the
neighboring
courtyard
that
separates
the
horse
table
from
the
next-door
residents.
The
intent
of
this
landscape
work
is
in
part
to
improve
the
heritage,
streetscape
pathetic
and
extend
the
positive
public
realm
experience
along
York
Street
further
east
from
this
intersection.
B
This
image
shows
the
proposal
from
across
the
street
the
rear
addition
is
visible.
Beyond
a
small
break
on
the
LES
facade,
the
secondary
entrance
to
the
retail
space
and
the
accessory
offices
is
also
visible
on
the
left
side
of
the
building
toward
the
back.
All
facades,
visible
from
the
street
or
from
the
condo
building
to
the
rear,
are
to
be
clad
in
aged
red
brick
to
match
the
existing
carving
material.
B
B
The
front
and
rear
elevations
highlight
the
scale
of
the
new
addition,
which
is
subordinate
and
complementary
to
the
original
building,
by
virtue
of
being
lower
with
an
ash
reform
and
hitch.
The
rear
elevation
shows
a
red
brick
living
wall
were
exposed
where
it's
exposed
above
the
first
floor.
The
drawing
indicates
the
planting
of
English
ivy
from
within
a
planter
box
on
this
rear
wall.
B
This
west
elevation
shows
the
extent
of
the
rear
of
the
addition
to
the
rear,
with
the
original
building
identified
on
the
right
should
have
our
pointer.
There
are
four
transom
style
windows
proposed
for
the
side
of
the
addition
and
one
window
to
be
added
to
the
original
building.
All
new
windows
are
to
be
wood
framed.
Three
skylights
are
proposed
for
the
addition,
with
two
proposed
on
the
original
building.
B
The
purpose
of
the
skylights
is
to
bring
light
into
the
upper
floor
of
the
building
the
portion
of
the
addition
where
the
building
abouts
the
side
property
line
is
proposed
to
be
clad
in
vertical
metal
siding.
This
portion
of
the
addition
is
located
immediately
adjacent
to
the
stable
next
door,
and
this
wall
will
not
be
visible.
B
B
The
project
is
consistent
with
Parks
Canada
standards
and
guidelines
for
the
conservation
of
Historic
Places
in
the
following
ways.
The
original
heritage
building
and
its
architectural
elements
have
been
preserved,
along
with
the
original
massing
of
the
building
located
at
the
rear
and
slightly
set
in
the
addition.
It's
distinguishable
from
the
original
House
yet
compatible
in
terms
of
the
bit
cladding,
as
well
as
as
well
as
its
roof
form
and
pitch.
B
So
I
change
to
the
order
slides
here,
but
I
just
want
to
discuss
via
that.
A
summary
of
the
Heritage
permit
application
was
circulated
to
adjacent
property
owners
within
35
meters
of
the
subject
property
to
the
word
counselor,
and
to
Heritage
Ottawa
into
Lower
Town
Community
Association
as
well.
Staff
is
aware
of
concerns
that
have
been
brought
forth,
which
relate
to
the
impacts
of
the
proposed
addition
on
adjacent
properties.
B
Revisions
to
the
proposed
designs
were
submitted
yesterday,
and
they
are
summarized
as
follows,
and
the
windows
proposed
on
the
South
elevation
have
been
reduced
in
size,
so
five
transom
windows
are
now
proposed
in
order
to
address
privacy
concerns
on
the
adjacent
property
to
the
west
and
the
Shaw
brick
pavers
on
the
shared
driveway
between
the
subject
property
and
the
top
view
113
115,
New
York,
the
horse
stable,
is
located,
is
not
to
extend
into
the
courtyard
of
that
property.
On
the
rear
facade.
The
red
brick
is
to
replace
the
the
originally
proposed
metal.
B
Cladding
English
ivy
is
also
a
proposed,
as
proposed
as
a
visual
mitigation
measure,
creating
a
living
wall
facing
the
existing
condo
building
the
roof
pitch
of
the
proposed
addition
has
been
slightly
lowered
to
reflect
the
roof
picture,
the
existing
house
providing
a
minimal
reduction
in
amassing,
as
seen
from
the
condo
building
to
the
rear,
so,
in
addition
to
the
heritage
permit,
this
project
requires
the
site
plan,
control
application
and
a
minor
variants
application.
The
final
recommendation
in
this
report
provides
discussion
to
staff
for
staff
to
prevent
minor
design
changes.
Should
they
be
required.
B
B
So
getting
back
to
the
recommendations,
the
recommendations
of
this
report
are
to
approve
the
application
to
demolish
the
existing
rear
addition
and
approve
the
new
construction
and
landscape
interventions.
In
accordance
with
the
revised
plans
and
by
the
way
the
revised
plants
have
been
indicated
in
this
presentation,
minor
design
changes
are
to
be
delegated
to
the
general
manager
of
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development
and
staff
recommend
establishing
two
years
pairi
date
from
the
date
of
issuance.
Thank
you.
Okay.
A
C
A
We're
not
formally
moving
it
yet
on.
The
visor
is
just
introducing
the
motion
so
that
everybody
in
the
room
is
aware
of
what
that
motion
will
be
when,
when
we
vote
on
it
at
the
end
of
the
item.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
vice
chair,
we're
going
to
move
now
to
public
delegations
and
I
have
so
far
a
six
on
my
list
and
for
those
who
are
here
for
the
first
time
when
I
call
your
name.
A
F
F
The
proposed
building
are
as
follow
the
first
one
is
depreciation
by
property
value.
Current
use
of
120
120
123
York
is
residential.
I
do
have
a
back
yard
back
there
and
it's
currently
used
as
a
place
of
leisure
for
the
kids
to
play.
Where
I
mean
the
potential
decree
XI,
ation
I
should
say
more
specifically,
I
can't
guarantee
that's
going
to
depreciate.
E
F
21
feet
from
ground,
then
there's
a
roof,
so
it's
really
going
to
close
a
cm.
You
can
almost
feel
like
some
of
the
prison
yard
to
a
degree,
and
my
secondary
concern,
which
is
quite
a
biggest
concern.
I,
have
is
the
snow
that
in
bitterly
will
fall
out
that
we,
what
the
pitcher
has
in
the
fact
that
is
a
metal
roof
this.
When
you
stole
my
backyard,
it's
going
to
close
off
my
access
to
virtually
exit
from
the
back
of
the
building
into
the
laneway.
F
The
promise
snowfall
that
there
with
metal
roof
would
fall
any
given
time
and
they
will
fall
all
of
that
at
once.
Demand
over
two
three
feet
of
soaps,
not
more
between
two
buildings
and
on
the
other
side,
which
not
my
building
a
strong
condo,
but
you
in
really
have
same
problem
with
his
Langley
being
blocked
off.
That's
quite
biggest
concern.
A
A
The
staff
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
talked
about
the
fact
that
they
will
be
safe
plan,
a
site
plan
process,
which
essentially
means
that's
going
to
be
the
opportunity
to
look
at
how
the
proposed
building
and
the
site
works
so
at
the
risk
of
sounding
overly
bureaucratic
and
I'm.
Sorry
about
this,
but
I
just
want
to
reassure
you
that
that
kind
of
issue,
although
not
under
consideration
here,
will
be
considered
as
part
of
the
site
plan
and
and
your
counselor
who's
who's
here
will
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
that
issue
before
staff
is
participating.
E
As
you
indicated,
my
name
is
Gary
mcLaughlin
I'd
like
to
thank
the
village
heritage
subcommittee
for
allowing
me
to
voice
my
opinion
on
the
expansion
of
the
heritage
building
I
live
at
144
clients.
My
unit
faces
119
York
when
I
look
out
by
windows
at
the
moment,
I
see
backyards
and
buildings
of
121
119,
115,
York
and
York
Street
itself.
E
When
we
purchased
the
condo
one
factor
in
buying
it
was
that
the
buildings
facing
us
were
deemed
heritage.
What
I
look
what
I
took
for
reading
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
heritage
designation
is
that
any
alternations
to
these
buildings
would
focus
on
three
areas:
streetscape
character
of
the
neighborhood
and,
most
importantly,
character
of
the
building
itself.
E
E
The
massive
size
of
the
expansion
Dwarfs
and
removes
all
the
character
of
a
single-family
house,
it's
awareness,
there's
no
semblance
of
single-family
home
left
to
finish
off
I.
Believe
the
committee
needs
to
weigh
their
needs
all
the
members
of
affected
by
the
tea
house
project.
Not
only
does
the
project
has
to
keep
its
front
elevation
in
keeping
with
Heritage
requirements,
but
it's
the
size
and
use
have
to
be
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
owners.
E
Extending
the
current
tea
house
to
a
commercial
size
project
presented
does
not
strike
an
appropriate
balance
of
all
affected
and
the
same
way
the
committee
could
not
support
a
front
elevation
that
is
not
keeping
with
Heritage
considerations.
It
should
also
not
accept
modifications
that
would
significantly
negatively
affect
surrounding
occupants
again.
Thank
you
for
long
enough
le
police.
My
concerns
thank.
A
I
I
I
I
have
equal
concern
for
our
neighbor
down
below
John
Kendall
and
what
that
will
do
to
his
property.
But
he
will
be.
He
will
be
defending
that,
but
I'm
very
concerned
that
if,
if
this
large
addition
to
the
rear
of
the
heritage,
building
does
go
through
that,
he
will
be
so
significantly
affected
that
ultimately,
we
will
lose
one
of
the
wonderful
heritage
aspects
of
the
market,
which
is
his
stables
and
the
services
he
provides.
I
And
more
and
more
I
hear
we
are
diminishing
the
quality
of
life
in
the
market
based
on
its
heritage,
massing
and
and
the
sense
that
these
original
houses
I
appreciate
that
it's
being
kept
and,
in
fact
improved
from
the
streetscape
but
part
of
the
whole
neighborhood
lives
off
these
backyards
spaces
and
the
feeling
of
how
it
was
that
the
backyards
I
agree
were
being
used.
But
they
were
not
being
built
up
and
the
density
of
building
to
me
is
excessive
for
this
area
and
for
in
keeping
with
the
Heritage
quality
of
our
neighborhood.
A
G
Good
morning
and
welcome
morning
thanks
for
atmosphere,
yes,
my
neighbors
said
a
lot
sore
and
it
was
pretty
good.
The
only
concern
really
I
added
is
decided
to
build
them
and
building
right
on
the
property
lamp
line
that
I
can't
repair
my
stable
or
anything
and
with
the
height
I,
don't
know
how
much
air
is
going
to
be
hooning
to
our
stable
for
the
horses.
No,
because
it
might
be
boxed
off
that
and
we'll
get
no
Sun.
G
F
G
Keep
to
drive
horses
to
do
rides
on
the
market
and
in
the
area,
walk
with
mummified
cannibals,
and
we
have
six
little
miniatures
that
we
have
a
handicapped.
Man
comes
in
every
day
and
walks
them
in
the
park
and
there's
to
be
attraction.
For
the
moment.
He
must
get
a
hundred
pitchers
every
day.
Taken
of
them
and
with
the
horses
I
mean
you
put
a
lot
of
smile
on
people's
faces
and
it's
been
a
family
business
for
130
years.
G
F
Correct
me,
where
I'm
wrong,
but
you're
concerned
you're
not
opposed
to
the
retail
use.
You
don't
even
have
an
issue
to
quite
you
seem
very
comfortable
with
the
brand
and
so
on
and
the
heritage
protection
of
the
the
the
facade.
Your
concern
is
with
the
addition
and
the
impact
on
what
that
would
mean
for
the
stable
operations
and
also
with
access.
So
you
haven't
really
explained
that
and
you
and
I
when
we
met,
you
were
quite
concerned
around
safety
relating
to
that
that
right
away
access,
it's.
G
Already
a
laneway
door
in
the
back
and
I,
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
handing
that
door
or
what
it's
going
to
be
at
the
back,
because
you
don't
know
until
it's
done
and
people
to
be
coming
in
an
editor
laneway.
So
if
somebody
slips
and
calls
whose
responsibility
is
it
if
I
have
a
joint
blainley
with
these
people,
I
don't
want
to
be
sued
for
their
customer
going
in
and
out
of
their
yard,
and
there
is
a
big
problem
with
ice
and
snow
on
the
remain
on
the
roof.
G
F
Just
briefly,
so
you
have
an
existing
right-of-way
agreement
or
the
the
the
property.
Next
to
you
has
a
right-of-way
agreement,
which
you
acknowledge.
You've
had
working
relationships
with
the
neighbors
for
years,
but
tell
me
around
you've
explained
to
me
that
now
the
fences
are
locked
on
a
general
basis
just
to
prevent
access
to
the
back
and
safety
for
the
horses
and
residents
right.
Yeah.
G
The
gate
in
front
we
lock
it
every
night
because
there's
a
lot
of
street
and
do
things
and
kids
from
the
value
on
their
and
journey
and
all
that
stuff.
So
we
lock
it
and
also,
if
there's
people
going
in
and
out,
that
we
don't
know
that
we
haven't
pretty
well
much
control
of
it
and
the
stable
doors
open
and
they
are
kids
and
they
going
to
the
stable,
would
have
commissioned
a
pony
bite
some
or
something
that
you
know
mean
that
you're
taking
all
their
purchase
away
right
there.
You
know
and
also
I
know.
G
The
viola
is
that
you
can
build
on
a
underline,
make
a
profit
on
you,
but
you're
building
radiance
is
stable
at
one
point
and
there's
a
priestly
head,
backed
by
our
stable.
That's
like
four
feet,
wide
or
three
feet
wide
that
we
store
stuff
and
the
same
endemic.
They
build
and
there's
two
feet
left
over.
Who
can
clean
all
that
dirt?
That
goes
in
their
leaves
and
stuff
known
that
somebody
could
stay
fire
people
get
into
places
that
you?
You
don't
think
that
we
get
into
then,
but
properly.
G
F
G
It's
just
just
notice
a
question
boy,
you
just
in
your
discussion
with
cancer.
Clearly
you
mention
that
you
here
for
80
years
in
the
current
location
yeah,
what
was
the
impacts
of
124
plants
when
it
was
built
on
your
property,
because
he
was
a
vacant
parcel
about
25
years
ago.
They
would
restore
their
with
a
regular
house
under
burka
mother,
decided
in
the
back
that
and
then
now
it's
now,
it's
redeveloped
as
a
yeah,
fairly
large
corner
building
directly,
but
there
are
in
from
the
airline
billion.
The
decked
must
be
20
feet
in
dead.
A
J
Good
morning
and
welcome
good
morning
good
morning,
committee
from
idea
of
beer,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
answer
that
in
question.
My
name
is
Ron
Smith
in
the
earth,
tech
and
planner
for
this
project
for
our
clients
and
I
can
probably
I
didn't
expect
to
speak.
So
maybe
what
I'll
do
is
try
to
answer
some
of
the
questions.
I,
don't
think
I've
got
a
solution
for
everybody's
requirements
and
needs,
but
I
can
probably
address
some
of
the
major
things
that
I've
just
seen
here,
not
just
John.
J
J
The
city
will
only
require
that
for
just
storm
water
management,
snow,
distantly
bees
as
another
form
of
water,
so
I
think
in
fact
we
can
control
that
and
control
the
rate
of
snow
coming
off
those
ribs
on
either
side
of
the
bill
and
in
fact
it's
going
to
be
as
much
a
problem
for
us
on
a
shared
easement
between
ourselves
and
stables.
So
it's
some
it's
going
to
be
a
concern
that
basically
will
be
a
shared
concern
within
the
neighborhood
and
certainly
with
our
most
appropriate
neighbor
here,
which
is
the
stable
side.
J
That
way
we
were
able
to
do
and
in
terms
of
the
Heritage
section,
we're
trying
to
do
that
as
best
as
we
can
on
the
rear
of
the
building
I'm.
Certainly,
maybe
not
the
most
economical
in
facing
the
condo
and
I
can
I
do
have
little
concerns
of
ourselves.
Also.
The
way
that
they
was
actually
looked
at
original
drawings
showed
something
around
35
feet
high,
but
the
reality
is
the
condominium
and
I'm
not
sure
how
much
thought
they
gave
putting
in
a
levy.
J
The
second
thing
was
that
we
did
consider
that
the
exterior
should
have
some
kind
of
texture
and
enlightening
them
to
prevent
the
the
simple
steel
structure
that
you're
putting
on
there
and
it's
a
maintenance
thing
as
well.
So
thinking
about
this,
certainly
we
have
brick
in
the
front.
Brick
in
the
rear
seems
very
appropriate
and
we
can
actually
use
a
recycled
brick
to
give
it
the
certainly
getting
their
heritage
look.
J
So
it's
not
just
a
concrete
block
and
we're
allowing
ourselves
the
idea
of
putting
in
a
fast-growing
English
ivy
that
would
actually
will
allow
that
actually
to
grow
up
against
the
rear,
facade
and
I.
Think
generally,
that's
a
not
a
bad
attractive
option
than
looking
at
a
regional
proposal
or
just
you
know,
some
kind
of
galvanized
metal,
so
I
think
that's
not
a
better
a
really
attractive
way
of
actually
treating
it.
J
A
Maybe
all
start
by
asking
about
the
minor
variances
that
you're
going
to
be
seeking,
and
one
of
the
important
things
to
note,
which
again
is
always
always
ends
up
sounding
bureaucratic,
but
it's
a
reality
and
important
for
those
who
are
in
this
room.
The
as
it
happens,
three
decision
points
there's
the
Heritage
permit,
which
is
before
us
here
this
morning
separately.
You
are
applying
for
a
minor
variants
and
as
a
leaf
from
the
overlay
of
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
about
that
in
a
moment.
A
And
thirdly,
there
will
be
site
plan
approval,
but
for
the
sake
of
clarity
and
so
that
people
around
this
table
and
people
in
the
room
can
understand
what
variance
is,
will
you
be
seeking
out
the
committee
of
judgment?
Can
you
just
review
those
not
that
it's
relevant
to
the
Heritage
permit?
Unfortunately,
it's
not,
but
I,
think
it's
important
context
for
people
to
understand
what
you're
going
to
be
seeking
out.
The
committee
of
adjustment,
I.
J
Think
mainly
just
simplify,
there's
actually
upon
the
men
I
would
think
it
would
be
the
northwest
side
against
the
apartment.
Building
we're
actually
asking
to
poet
about
around
20
inches
two
feet
closer
to
that
property
milling
technically,
the
usual
requirement
is
to
actually
bring
the
ball
back
to
the
inside,
face
that
we're
auditioning
to
actually
get
closer
to
the
property
line
in
order
to
increase
our
ours
interior
space.
One
of
the
other
reasons
we
are
doing
is
because
on
the
I
would
call
it
the
stable
side,
we're
very
restricted
by
an
existing
easement.
J
That
easement
doesn't
allow
a
statute
building
to
our
property
line,
but
also
it
will.
It
will
restrict
the
amount
of
square
footage
that
we
do
have
there
not
the
opportunity
to
build
on
the
back
addition.
So
essentially
it
is
that
real
north
northwest
elevation,
as
you
can
see
it's
at
the
top
of
the
page,
there's
a
dimension
up
there.
I
can't
really
read
it.
A
A
J
I
L
J
E
Had
a
couple
questions,
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
is
that
this
is
I,
think
one
of
the
best
buildings
in
that
block
one
of
the
best
buildings
in
the
market.
It's
a
beautiful
building,
delighted
to
see
your
plans
to
preserve
and
conserve
the
fun
I.
Think.
That's
really
excellent
and
I
noticed
in
the
report
that
you're
keeping
the
finial
and
bargeboard
trimmer
I'm
the
silver
at
the
building.
Yesterday,
look
at
it
and
I
see
they're
quite
weather
when
I
assume
that
you
will
be
doing
conservation
work
on
them.
J
E
Another
thing
I
wondered
is:
is
that
two
points
or
raised
one
about
the
gates,
the
other
about
event?
Would
your
clients
be
prepared
to
relocate
pay
to
relocate
for
mr.
kundle,
so
that
it's
not
pointing
out
beside
the
points
at
the
front
of
his
property
instead
of
the
side
and
also
relocate
the
gates
to
the
further
box
so
that
they
still
protect
the
very
yard.
J
We
haven't,
they
actually
have
made
off
with
the
gates.
In
fact,
we
repaired
the
cellular
Romney
always
relocate.
Actually,
that's
not
that's,
never
been
an
issue
and
it'll
go
out
if
we
have
a
chance
after
this
meeting
layer
unto
that
we
plan
on
meeting
some
of
the
neighborhood,
so
I
have
no
problem
with
the
gate
goes
here
that
prior
discussion,
I
must
say
that
one
in
things
here
the
committee
is
that
this
is
a
shared
liability.
J
J
Our
the
second
item
here
is
the
vents
and
I
believe
we've
the
mint
in
question,
or
at
least
we
can
play
Spence,
we
technically
back
at
least
200
feet
at
this
location,
so
the
state
advance
we
are
trying
to
enable
and
maintain
those
uses
at
that
location.
So
we've
already
made
that
adjustment.
Okay,.
E
J
It's
not
a
simply
it's
required
and
necessary.
We
will
do
that
and
the
same
with
the
paving
in
here
we
will
have
discussion
with
our
neighbor,
in
fact,
the
type
of
granite
that
we
would
be
looking.
That
would
be
berlin-based,
not
a
flat
granite,
say
that,
generally
there
is
a
discussion
about
more
than
European
our
pattern
of
stones
to
accommodate
the
hooves
of
the
horses.
That
say
that,
so
that's
all
Benny,
that's
I,
don't
think!
That's
a
no-brainer!
That's
pretty
simple!
C
J
C
J
That
easement
doesn't
go
to
the
back
and
problem.
We've.
We've
stopped
the
shed
actually
at
the
end
of
the
easement,
okay,
actually
yeah
yeah,
that's
shown
on
one
of
the
dots
and
just.
C
J
A
retail
building,
I
think
we've
just
haven't,
got
to
that
stage.
We're
thinking
a
process
right
now
has
been
purely
on
planning
side
in
the
upcoming
weeks
as
we
go
through.
This
would
be
thinking.
We've
already
met
with
our
civil
engineer
today
and
we
will
be
looking
at
the
mechanical
and
the
electrical
requirements
terminal
will
go
into
this
building.
At
this
point
we
haven't
had
that
discussion
with
our
consultants.
So
that's
that's
to
be
discussed.
L
C
It
would
seem
to
me
that
the
neighbors
on
all
sides-
you
know
who
are
concerned
about
the
visual
appearance
of
it
when
they
find
out,
but
your
top
heating
unit.
So
what
your
vents
are
going
to.
Look
like
that's
going
to
alter
the
experience
of
the
sedition
quite
substantially
and
I'm
surprised
that
that
hasn't
been
included
in
the
submission,
because
it's
so
obvious
that
it's
going
to
be
a
visual
intervention.
But
then
a
really
good.
J
A
L
L
I
think
this
is
a
positive
thing,
but
why
not
say
okay
we're
going
to
look
at
the
backyard,
not
what
we
can
get
away
with
by
putting
a
massive
addition
that
goes
to
the
property
line
and
other
than
that
too
much
of
a
problem
with
I.
Don't
know
why
it
is
a
problem,
but
in
fact
that
there's
a
right,
yep
lookin
can
do
this
into
the
commercial
guidelines
or
zoning
of
the
area
is.
L
There
is
of
some
concern:
if
we're
really
going
to
be
serious
about
preserving
the
Byward
market
heritage
conservation
district,
so
I
think
what
are
they
looking
for?
What
they
can
bend
the
rules
to
be
or
should
be
doing,
is
easing
off
on
the
we
are
looking
for
variances
and
to
try
to
preserve
this
north
side
of
look
Street
in
this
particular
block
to
as
a
reflection
of
what
the
built
heritage
conservation
district
should
be.
E
I'm
concerned
that
you're
suggesting
that
that
the
owner
of
the
heritage
building
should
have
the
rights
removed
from
any
development
that
you
seem
to
be
saying
that
you're
suggesting
that
we
would
support
removing
all
development
rights
from
the
person
who
owns
a
heritage
property
and
let
people
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
go
ahead
and
get
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
I
hope.
That's
not
what
you're
suggesting,
because
it's
certainly
to
me,
would
send
a
very
negative
message
out
to
the
owners
of
construct
buildings.
No.
L
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
suggesting
at
all.
What
I
am
suggesting
is
that
what
the
city
should
be
trying
to
do
is
to
encourage
opponents
and
developers
of
these
properties
not
to
be
looking
for
these
these
variances
and
to
try
to
find
people
who
are
going
to
keep
it
as
they
are
and
to
totally
reflect
the
heritage
nature
of
the
of
the
neighborhood
I
agree
with
you.
L
E
L
L
Now
we
support
the
application,
you
think
it's
a
very
good
application
from
a
from
the
Heritage
perspective
and
I
think
it
should
be
used
as
model
for
for
the
type
of
for
the
type
of
development
that
is
done
here.
We
do,
though,
have
a
problem
with
the
consequences
of
it
and
the
consequences
of
how
it
goes
for
cycling.
A
I
You
mr.
chair
a
question
about
referenced
that
the
proponent
is
looking
for
an
exemption
from
the
overlay.
Can
you
elaborate
on
what
that's
going
to
entail?
Please.
B
B
Smith
is
pointing
out
the
there's,
a
requirement
for
relief
in
that
provision
here,
as
well
as
here's
I
understand,
that's
plus
or
minus
14
inches,
so
about
8,
it's
a
little
bit
short
6,
inches
short
or
so
here
you
need
2
feet,
essentially
so,
on
the
other
there's
a
technical
requirement
on
the
way
that
the
real
yard
setback
provision
is
written
in
the
Heritage
overlay
section
of
the
zoning
bylaw.
It
does
for
to
the
underlying
zoning
to
determine
the
rear
yard
setback,
which
in
this
case
is
zero,
as
well
as
the
side
that
setback.
B
B
C
I
Justice
clarifies
a
point
that
I
think
the
that
time.
Mr.
Smith,
an
answer
to
I,
don't
know
whose
question
it
was
so
but
I
also
just
briefly
wanted
to
follow
that
up
by
asking,
if
the
Heritage
within
the
Heritage
Conservation
District
for
this
area,
does
it
reference
in
any
way
the
the
adjoining
backyards
as
a
character
defining
element
to
any
about
the
open
space
and
interconnection
of
backyards?
I
B
Is
mr.
cheddar
is
a
reference
to
determining
appropriate,
Heights
and
setbacks
based
on
the
adjacent
hazard
properties.
So
if
we
look
in
this
case,
we
have
two
adjacent
sort
of
contributing
heritage
properties,
one
here,
the
horse,
stable
property,
and
that
has
a
zero.
We
had
setback
n20
sided
setback.
We
do
also
have
the
residential
building
here.
So
the
is
a
real
setback
here,
but
the
policy
does
say
to
sort
of
determine
appropriate
setbacks
based
on
adjacent
properties.
So.
B
B
It
says
adjacent
so
in
in
this
particular
context,
by
looking
at
the
adjacent
property
to
to
the
west.
That
also
has
a
zero
set-aside
badly
of
setback,
but
the
issue
of
determining
the
appropriateness
of
the
setback
is
something
that
we
understand
we'll
go
through
the
minor
variants
process
as
well,
so
we've
determined
that
this
in
this
setback
is
appropriate,
given
the
adjacent
property
to
the
west
and
also
the
zero
setback
of
the
the
first
floor
of
the
condo
building
to
the
north.
Okay.
K
F
Trophy
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
have
a
few
questions
and
I'll
start
with
the
broader
one
which
is
I
believe
there
is
at
times
a
conflict
between
the
goals
of
the
HCD
in
an
area
by
our
market
and
the
neighboring
MD
zone.
I'd
love
to
hear
from
staff
on
the
specifics
of
how
I
mister
Willis
in
the
pass.
It
said
that
the
MD
zone
would
be
reviewed.
F
You
know
that
there's
active
applications
within
the
MD
zone,
which
are
which
permits
a
lot
of
height
and
a
lot
of
density
and
I,
want
to
understand
house
overall
staff
or
seeing
the
MD
zone
being
complementary
to
the
htd
zone
and
if
there
needs
to
be
amendments
to
to
create
a
bit
of
a
buffer,
it's
more
of
a
general
comment,
but
it
indirectly
applies
to
this
application.
F
As
you
know,
I
believe
the
VMD
zone,
that's
the
lost
property
of
that
on
that
block
for
the
VMD
zone,
so
I'm
and
the
enve
zone
allows
for
a
lot
line
to
line
building.
As
you
know,
so,
I
don't
know
who's
best,
positioned
to
speak
to
those
references
of
how
do
we
feel
that
the
MD
and
the
aged,
the
Heritage
Conservation
District
zones
live
with
with
one
another
and
as
their
conflict
overall,
and
is
it
something
that
we
should
be
careful
of?
You
know
not
necessarily
specific
to
that.
B
Mr.
chair,
in
the
sense
that
the
heritage
permit
application
does
require
us
to
analysis
of
the
property
based
on
the
the
district
guidelines
and,
and
also
we
apply
this.
The
the
standards
for
head
should
show
the
standards
and
guidelines
for
heritage
conservation,
the
parts
Canada
document
and
the
plaintiff
staff
does
feel
that
the
analysis
of
the
project
is
sufficient
to
ensure,
despite
the
underlying
zoning,
that
the
proposal
is,
is
appropriate
from
the
heritage
conservation
perspective,
yeah.
F
And
I'm-
not
maybe
maybe
mr.
curry,
can
speak
to
it.
I
mean
we
have
an
application
in
front
of
us.
I
have
a
few
questions
related
to
the
application,
but
overall
the
theme
here
is:
is
there
a
conflict
between
the
MD
zone
and
the
HCD
zone
in
your
mind
and
is
going
forward?
What's
the
plan
for
the
MD
zone,
because
is
there
an
opportunity
to
give
it
some
some
character
that
reflects
the
themes
that
we're
trying
to
establish
in
the
in
the
HCD
zone
for
the
bio
market.
H
Counselor
as
as
mr.
Maloney
said,
I
think
that
the
local
analysis
that
we
can
undertake
in
each
CD,
provided
by
the
HCD
plan,
mitigates
some
of
the
challenges
of
the
MD
zone.
That
being
said,
my
understanding
is,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
MD
zone
in
2018,
with
its
with
its
minimal
setbacks
and
adjacencies,
does
cause
conflict
within
the
neighborhood,
and
so
that
will
be
something
that
we'll
be
discussing
with
mr.
Smith
and
mr.
Willis
has,
in
terms
of
the
future
of
the
MD
zone
as
a
zoning
tool.
F
Thank
you
now
specific
to
this
application.
We've
had
this
conversation,
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
public
I
want
to
understand
it
as
well.
We
have
existing
hair
to
juices.
We
have
an
application
for
which
you
know
generally,
as
highlighted
by
mr.
Smallwood,
is
good.
It's
a
it's
a
heritage,
building
and
they're,
bringing
forward
an
application
to
protect
that
the
concerns
are
mainly
to
existing.
B
B
There's
recognition,
of
course,
that
that
that
is
in
existing
land
use
adjacent
to
this
property,
but
it's
the
direct
impact
on
the
functionality
of
that
stables
is
outside
the
realm
of
sort
of
the
review
from
staff.
In
terms
of
this,
this
proposal,
as
mentioned
previously,
there
is
a
site
plan,
application
and
monitoring
application.
That
would
hopefully
address
very
particular
concerns
that
that
might
relate
to
impact
on
adjacent
land
use.
B
Mr.
Shay,
we
do
look
at
the
existing
character
of
the
streetscape
and
it
is
our
go-to
to
ensure
that
the
the
character
and
the
streetscape
isn't
compromised.
So
in
this
case
it's
a
low-rise
residential
streetscape
along
the
north
side
of
of
York
Street.
So
by
virtue
of
building
the
addition
to
the
rear
and
living
an
addition,
that's
lower
than
the
original
building,
would
you
feel
that
the
character
is
is
protected
in
a
sense
and
there
is
recognition
within
the
borough
market
plan
that
there's
an
evolution
of
uses
within
the
district.
B
So
in
this
case
that
way,
residential
properties,
there
have
been
some
turnover
to
commercial
you
and
it
does
reflect
that
sort
of
character
within
within
the
Byward
market
of
sort
of
adaptive,
reuse
of
buildings.
So
so,
in
that
sense
it
was
the
project
was
analyzed
through
that
lens
and
we'll
comfortable
with
the
character
has
been
preserved.
So.
F
Just
as
a
final
wrap-up
for
me,
mr.
sheriff
you
in
mind,
retail
uses
in
the
bio
market
are
extraordinarily
important
and
seeing
an
organization
like
Patagonia
come
in
and
invest
in
the
area
is
very
important
and
protecting
the
heritage
result
is
very
important.
I
I,
don't
blame
it
on
them.
I
blame
it
on
the
lot
line
too
lot
line.
Zoning
and
I
wish
that
the
applicant
were
to
propose
a
real
yard
step
back.
F
That
would
correct
two
elements:
one
which
is
the
existing
residential
uses
on
the
other
side,
but
also
freeing
up
some
some
light
and
air
for
the
existing
heritage
uses.
So
I
will
continue
to
pursue
that
they
reflect
my
comments
as
part
of
this
application.
Again,
it's
a
challenge
where
you
have
an
existing
use
that
we're
trying
to
protect
in
terms
of
the
stable.
At
the
same
time,
it
is
a
sensible
protection
of
that
property.
F
The
addition,
in
my
mind,
goes
a
bit
to
it's
too
extensive
to
the
log
line
and
I
wish
that
the
applicant
would
would
would
come
back
and
and
and
provide
some
relief
there
for
the
uses,
but
also
for
the
residential
neighbors
I.
Believe
you
know
there
they
seem
to
to
be
trying
to
find
a
solution
that
it
be
moving
the
vent
that
the
defense's,
which
I
believe
to
be
a
good
step,
that
I'd
ask
the
applicant
to
consider
some
some
relief
off
the
wall
line.
I
Just
want
to
follow
up
a
bit
on
that
idea.
Mr.
chair
they're,
clear
affects
not
just
this
area,
but
every
area,
the
city
that
has
a
heritage
designation
and
it's
part
of
the
weaknesses
we
have
in
a
whole
planning
system,
because
every
time
I
get
a
plan
of
anything
and
I
get
tons
of
them
is
only
for
that
actual
property
and
I
have
to
take
a
look
at
what's
the
next
door
by
the
stacks
say
they
look
at
the
dippers,
as
almost
its
minimal
I
have
one
being
built.
I
Now
this
it's
next
to
the
urban
boundary
they
didn't
want
to
have
any
place.
We
could
ever
from
the
future,
have
the
connecting
link
in
case
that
ever
does
come
into
the
urban
area,
and
they
did
that
before
is
caused.
You
problems
and
it's
a
case
of
we
don't
think
in
our
planning-
and
this
is
not
your
responsibility,
particularly,
and
maybe
this
points
it
better
being
raised
by
counsel
floor
exactly
that
point
that
we
have
a
purpose
in
part
of
the
building
or
a
site
plan,
or
whatever
is
not
a
unique
in
its
own
self.
I
It's
part
of
a
whole
entity
and
in
this
case
it's
a
heritage
entity,
so
it
has
particular
importance
and
the
users
have
particular
importance.
So
I
don't
know
it's
really
more
I
think
that
it
looking
for
tissue
when
you
need
the
official
plan
and
everything
else
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
changes
made.
So
we
have.
C
I
just
like
to
say
that
I
support
the
staff
report
and
we'll
be
rooting
for
it.
I
think.
The
reason
for
it
is
that,
as
councilor
Clarice
said,
I
retail
uses
committed,
but
there's
something
that
are
difficult
to
introduce
them
to
the
buyer
market
area
and
to
enrich
and
the
mix
of
uses.
I
think
that
having
an
Erie
Taylor
come
in
is
a
very
positive
thing,
and
the
investment
in
this
property
will
support
the
conservation
of
the
existing
building
and
its
speech
gate,
which
I
think
is
a
very
desirable
thing.
C
The
form
of
the
addition,
though
it's
not
plot,
is
essentially
permitted
in
this
zone
and
by
choosing
the
house
shape
or
buying
shape
at
back
that
it
is
not
detract
appellate.
Id
appreciate
the
comments
that
I
made
from
people
that
have
been
144
clients,
but
without
wanting
to
alienate
them
I'd
like
to
say
that
that
building
which
was
built
is
that
very
negative
impact
on
the
scale
of
the
violet
market
and
the
people
that
live
there
through
good
neighbors
and
benefit
from
the
market,
but
I'm.
C
Not
that
sympathetic
to
the
concerns-
and
that's
pretty
daring
of
me
from
this
position
to
say
that
but
I
think
that
the
overall
project
is
a
very
good
project
and
hope
that
the
the
owners
of
men
Patagonia
will
be
very,
very
sensitive
to
and
support
the
Kundel
stable
operation.
They
have
to
become
best
friends,
because
that's
part
of
the
the
landmarks
of
the
city
so
I'll
be
supporting
the
application.
A
Okay,
just
a
final
question
to
staff
before
I
wrap
up,
which
is
just
with
regard.
Mr.
Maloney,
you
mentioned
the
overlay,
a
three
metre
setback.
Do
you
think
that
the
that
the
overlay
contemplated
a
zone
with
a
zero
yard
setback,
meaning?
Is
that
perhaps
a
mistake
in
Section
60
of
the
zoning
bylaw?
Does
that
need
to
be
reviewed
by
staff,
or
do
you
think
it's
appropriate
the
way
it
is
it.
B
Is
mr.
chair,
it's
my
understanding
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
the
Euro
rear
setback
was
not
contemplated
as
a
scenario
given
the
language
of
that
particular
provision.
But
when
you
apply
grammo
rules
the
way
it's
written,
you
must
require
a
three
metre
setback
right,
no
matter
what
the
underlying
Sony
I.
A
Just
wonder
if
the
next
opportunity,
when
that
bylaw
is
reviewed,
if
heritage
staff
may
want
to
take
a
look
at
that,
because
I
think
that
was
a
source
of
some
confusion
and
maybe
in
future
it
won't
be
if
that
gets
sorted
out.
Thank
you
for
that
and
the
vice-chair
said
much
of
what
I
wanted
to
say,
I
think
evaluating
this
application
to
alter
an
existing
heritage
property
under
code
five.
We
need
to
look
at
the
Lowertown
Heritage
Conservation
District.
A
Right
up
to
the
rear,
Walt
line
and
the
existing
condition
of
the
property
in
question
in
the
layer
is
a
parking
lot,
which
is
interesting
context.
So
that's
why
I
too
will
be
supporting
the
staff
recommendation
and
I'll
put
it
before
the
committee.
Now
is
the
staff
recommendation
first?
Is
the
Vice
chairs
technical
amendment
farad?
Is
it
and
then
the
amended
staff
recommendation?
Is
that
code?
Great?
Ok,
thank
you
and
to
members
of
the
public.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
and
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
raise
issues
related
to
the
setbacks.
Committee
of
adjustment.
A
A
No,
that's
not
correct
so
that
yeah,
so
you
can
speak
to
staff
that
there
is
a
committee
of
adjustment
process
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
item
2
on
our
list,
which
is
the
application
for
alteration
of
medical
arts.
Building
members
will
recall
that
we
had
this
item
before
us
early
on
in
our
term,
with
a
specific,
with
a
specific
application,
and
now
there
is
a
application
to
alter
180
Metcalfe
Street,
a
property
designated
under
part
for
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
we're
going
to
start
with
a
short
staff
presentation.
A
M
Good
morning,
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee-
yes,
forgive
me
I'm
a
bit
rusty,
my
first
one
of
these
in
a
while,
but
the
application
before
the
committee
today
is
an
application
to
alter
Medical
Arts
Building
at
180
Metcalfe
Street,
the
property
is
designated
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
and
it
was
designated
on
recommendation
of
this
committee
in
2015.
M
Property
is
located
at
the
northwest
corner
of
Nepean
and
Metcalf
streets.
You
can
see
in
this
sorry
you
can
see
in
this
photo
here.
The
original
building
is
here
and
the
rear
part
of
the
lot
is
currently
used
as
a
surface
parking
lot.
At
the
time
of
designation
in
2015,
there
was
an
accompanying
zoning
bylaw
amendment
that
was
approved
for
this
site
that
contemplated
a
27
storey
tower
83
meters
on
the
site
and
including
retention
of
the
building.
M
So
the
current
condition
of
the
property
is
the
same
as
it
was
in
2015.
The
Medical
Arts
Building
was
constructed
in
1928,
designed
by
one
or
not
P,
and
is
aware
of
good
example
of
the
Art
Deco
style
in
Ottawa.
The
building
is
a
landmark
at
the
corner
of
Metcalf
and
pean
streets
and
was
one
of
the
is
purpose-built
office
buildings
in
the
downtown
core
and
is
part
of
a
trend
of
Medical
Arts
buildings
that
were
built
across
the
country
in
the
1920s
and
30s.
M
M
M
This
is
looking
east
at
the
rear,
facade
of
the
building.
I
guess
the
lighting
in
the
room
makes
it
a
bit
difficult
see,
but
here's
the
rear
facade
of
the
building,
the
existing
surface
parking
lot
and
again
the
newly
constructed
Tribeca
building
across
the
street.
So,
at
the
time
of
the
designation,
just
to
give
a
bit
of
background,
the
original
proposal
was
to
remove
this
rear,
facade
and
construct
a
six-story
podium
attached
and
integrated
to
the
existing
building.
The
approach
has
changed,
and
I
will
explain
that
now
in
a
couple
of
minutes.
M
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
some
of
the
architectural
elements
of
the
building,
is
they
they
talk
about
the
milady
later,
as
I
said,
it's
a
good
example
of
the
Art
Deco
style
in
Ottawa,
characterized
by
certain
heritage.
Attributes
such
as
these
decorative
brick
panels,
these
decorative
metal
panels
that
you
see
on
both
the
front
and
the
North
facade
of
the
building,
as
well
as
this
two-story
arch
to
entranceway
that
I
really
discuss
in
greater
detail
later
again.
M
I'ma
live
just
another
shot
as
a
result
of
a
building
that
is
proposed
to
be
removed,
and
then
these
higher
these
basement
windows,
which
will
again
be
discussed
a
little
later
in
terms
of
alterations
to
the
proposed
from
the
proposal.
So
this
image
shows
the
site
plan
for
the
proposed
building.
The
application
now
includes
demolition
of
the
rear,
so
the
west
wall
of
building,
as
well
as
the
interior,
so
the
interior
of
the
building
was
originally
proposed
to
be
routine
and
then
the
new
building
was
going
to
be
integrated
into
it.
M
The
applicant
is
now
proposing
basically
demolition
of
the
entire
building,
with
the
exception
of
the
North
facade,
the
East
facade
and
the
South
facade,
so
demolition
of
the
interior
and
the
rear.
The
remainder
of
the
plan
is
essentially
the
same
in
terms
of
what
was
proposed
under
the
zoning
amendment,
which
is
a
six
story.
Podium
with
a
tower
above
the
proposal
does
require
two
minor
variances.
The
existing
height
limit
is
83
meters.
M
The
applicant
is
seeking
84.5,
so
a
1.5
meter
increase
to
the
height
and
the
S
is
seeking
a
decrease
to
Z
soft
landscaping
at
that
grade,
where
16
percent
is
required
there
seeking
12
percent,
so
that
will
be
dealt
with
through
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
again
a
site
plan.
Control
application
will
also
be
required
for
this
proposal.
M
So
the
proposal
includes
reconstruction
of
the
interior,
of
the
building,
so
demolition
down
to
the
facades
and
then
reconstruction
of
the
floor
is
that
the
same
Heights
they're
currently
at
and
tying
that
back
into
the
original
building-
and
this
is
important
because
we
wanted
to
see
the
floor.
Heights
matching
the
windows
of
the
existing
building
and
that
sort
of
thing.
M
M
The
proposed
North
elevation
you
see
here
shows
the
masonry
clad
podium,
so
it's
a
black
brick
with
stone
at
grade
and
setback
and
the
step
out
of
the
tower
from
the
front
facade
of
the
Medical
Arts
Building,
the
new
and
the
old
sections
of
the
podium.
So
this
is
obviously
the
in-store
portion
of
the
building
and
the
new
podium
are
separated
by
this
blaze.
Recessed
gasket
and
the
podium
matches
the
floor
heights
and
datum
lines
of
the
historic
building
and
features
a
similar,
symmetrical
arrangement
of
the
windows.
M
This
shows
the
proposed
South
elevation,
so
this
will
now
go
to
the
rear
of
the
lot.
With
the
surface.
Parking
lot
was
I
was
speaking
about
earlier
and
then
the
North
elevation,
which
I
I
spoke
about
earlier,
so
that
the
building
facade
is
much
smaller
on
the
north,
on
the
sorry,
the
South
elevation
and
then
the
podium
its
treated
in
the
same
manner,
but
it
is
a
longer
longer
facade
to
match
this
this
size.
M
M
These
are
preliminary
and
you
can
ignore
the
design
of
the
tower
up
above
because,
if
I
believe
the
showing
plants
were
done
prior
to
the
changes
to
the
tower,
the
building
will
be
braced.
Using
the
steel
frame
stabilized
on
concrete
piles,
the
frame
will
be
attached
to
the
building
by
a
wood
blocking
in
order
to
minimize
the
impact
on
the
historic
masonry
and
the
windows
will
be
removed
from
the
building
and
the
bracing
will
go
through
the
window.
Openings.
M
The
anticipated
timing
for
the
bracing
is
18
to
24
months,
section
11
of
the
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
that
was
prepared
by
Robertson
Martin
page
35
of
that
document
outlines
the
proposed
conservation
approach.
That
approach
has
been
incorporated
into
staffs
recommendations
and
included
in
the
pits
in
the
conditions
that
have
been
proposed.
That
I
will
discuss
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes.
M
These
are
just
some
renderings
showing
the
proposed
project
when
it's
completed
so
looking
sort
of
Northwest
along
Metcalf
Street,
the
top
one
is
obviously
a
kind
of
a
bird's
eye
view,
I
suppose
and
then
looking
south
towards
the
North
facade
here,
I'd
like
to
speak
to
the
bottom
image
because
they
may
discuss
it
again
in
a
minute.
But
the
existing
one
of
the
Heritage
attributes
of
this
building
is
defined
as
the
six
storey
massing
with
the
seventh
storey
penthouse
and
in
order
to
accommodate
the
post,
our
and
and
the
construction.
M
It
has
no
real
character
to
it,
however,
because
the
proposed,
because
the
Heritage
attribute
is
defined
as
the
seven
storey
penthouse
staff
felt
there
is
a
real
need
to
provide
some
memory
of
that
volume
and
legibility,
even
if
it
is
just
from
above
with
with
a
lot
of
new
construction
around
here.
The
roof
scape
of
this
building
will
be
visible
and
I.
M
A
M
I
went
back
the
long
direction,
so,
in
addition
to
the,
as
you
can
imagine,
this
is
a
fairly
complicated
project,
but
in
addition
to
the
proposed
new
construction
and
demolition,
the
end
result
of
this
project
would
be
a
proposed
restoration
of
the
historic
facades
and
these
plans
are
included
in
the
report.
It's
very
difficult
for
me
know
that
wouldn't
I
me
text
on
the
screen,
but
just
to
summarize,
basically,
all
the
masonry
elements
are
to
be
retained
in
the
storage.
The
existing
windows
are
wooden,
sash
windows.
We
are
not
sure.
M
If
they
are,
we
originally
knows
there
is
some
speculation
that
the
original
windows
may
then
a
metal
side,
wood
window
and
I
did
go
and
look
at
the
historic,
the
at
North
keys
plans
at
Library
and
Archives
Canada
last
week,
just
to
sort
of
confirm-
and
there
is
no
indication
on
the
plans
as
to
what
the
material
were
of
the
windows
is.
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
replace
the
existing
windows
with
a
metal,
clad,
wood,
rehabilitation
of
all
of
the
leaded
glass
windows.
M
So,
there's
that
a
glass
here
there's
some
above
the
door,
so
the
rehabilitation
of
all
of
those
removal,
restoration
and
reinstatement
of
all
the
metal
panels
and
grills.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
metal
grills
here,
adjacent
to
the
front
door.
All
of
these
metal
panels
are
in
varying
conditions
of
waiting
to
be
debilitated
and
then
there's
two
major
alterations
to
the
facade.
M
The
first
is
the
basement
windows.
Actually,
no
I'm,
sorry
I'm
going
to
speak
about
the
front
entrance
first
because
it
leads
to
the
basement
windows.
The
current
front
entrance
to
this
building
has
several
steps
and
is
not
accessible.
So
in
the
interest
of
providing
an
accessible
entrance
to
the
building,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
lower
the
front
door
to
provide
an
entrance
at
grade.
The
fine
details
of
window
and
door
and
transom
arrangements
have
not
been
determined
at
this
stage.
M
The
intention
is
that
the
front
lobby
of
the
building
will
be
a
two-story
space,
so
you
will
walk
in
through
this
two-story
entrance
into
a
large
Lobby
due
to
the
lowering
of
the
proposed
lowering
of
the
front
door.
These
basement
windows
then
become
half
in
the
lobby
and
half
in
the
parking
garage,
making
them
somewhat
difficult
or
unnecessary.
I
guess
so.
The
applicant
has
proposed
to
retain
them
in
the
openings
and
leash
and
in
fill
them
with
a
recessed
masonry
panel.
M
So
the
the
memory
of
the
windows
does
remain
and
it
is
a
reversible
intervention
down
the
road.
If,
if
that
was
ever
the
choice,
oh
and
again,
I'll
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
the
entrance.
Let
me
get
to
the
conditions
section,
the
north
and
south
elevations.
The
treatment
in
terms
of
conservation
is
the
same.
This
does
show
again
the
penthouse
volume
that
I
was
speaking
about
earlier,
so
where
this
is
currently
a
stucco
clad
box
will
now
be
an
open,
open,
amenity
space
on
the
roof.
M
The
building
the
applicable
standards
and
guidelines
are
the
same
ones
that
you
frequently
see
conserve.
The
Heritage
value
do
not
remove,
replaces
substantially
alter
intact,
repairable
character,
defining
elements.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
Heritage
value
of
this
building
is
one
its
design
as
an
architect
or
building
its
associated
value
as
a
purpose-built,
Medical,
Arts,
Building
and
its
context
as
a
landmark
in
center
town.
So
the
proposing
dimension,
while
significant
staff
do
believe
that
does
protect
the
heritage
value
of
the
building.
M
The
demolition
that
is
proposed
does
not
actually
impact
any
of
the
Heritage
attributes,
as
the
real
wall
is
not
considered
to
be
an
attribute
and
the
interior
of
the
building
is
not
included
in
the
designation
fully.
Recognizing
that
facade
retention
is
not
considered
best
practice
in
heritage
conservation
and
that's
been
acknowledged
in
the
staff
report.
The
facade
is
being
incorporated
in
a
meaningful
way.
The
new
structure
will
match
the
old.
The
podium
will
align
with
the
datum
lines
and
height
of
the
existing
building.
M
M
Just
quickly,
these
are
the
guidelines
that
are
applicable
so
the
use
of
the
podium
and
the
setback
from
the
primary
facade
appropriate.
The
new
addition
is
contemporary
in
style
and
can
be
easily
distinguished
between
front
nifA
mold,
and
then
the
elements
of
the
proposed
podium
and
tell
have
clearly
been
inspired
by
the
character.
Medical
Arts
Building,
as
I
discussed
earlier
number.
Eighteen
talks
about
accessibility-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
important
when
it
comes
to
the
front
entrance
staff
at
this
point
feel
that
the
front
entrance
is
an
important
heritage
attributed
building.
M
That
being
said,
the
provision
of
an
accessible
entrance
is
equally
important
and
there
has
to
be
a
way
of
incorporating
both
the
plate
and
because
of
that,
it
is
our
assertion
that
the
proposed
alterations
to
the
front
entrance
need
for
the
consideration
so
from
a
competition
perspective.
The
work
counselors
where
the
court
she's
here,
obviously
the
center
town
Community
Association,
was
notified.
We
did
not
receive
any
comments
heard
at
Ottawa
was
notified.
Its
comments
are
included
in
the
report
and
staff
feel
that
they
have
addressed
many.
M
The
comments
through
the
conditions
and
neighbors
within
30
meters
are
notified
and
no
comments
were
received,
so
the
recommendations
are
to
approves
the
application
subject
to
the
conditions
and
then
the
normal
requirements
that
we
put
in
about
delegated
authority
and
expiry
dates
and
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
run
through
these
conditions.
So
the
first
is
removal
of
the
proposed
entrance
canopy
and
the
proposed
window
awnings.
M
The
proposed
window
awnings
obscured
the
metal
panels
that
are
a
Harwich
attribute
of
the
building
and
staff
do
not
feel
that
they
are
an
appropriate
intervention,
so
we
are
proposing.
We
are
recommending
the
level
of
those
the
currently
proposed
canopy
obscures
the
front
entrance
and
and
the
metal
panel
above
the
door,
which
is
an
important
heritage.
Attribute.
That
being
said,
if
there
is
a
functional
requirement
for
the
canopy
staff
would
be
willing
to
consider
other
options
for
a
canopy
down
the
road.
M
M
This
is
the
condition
related
to
the
front
entrance,
so
we'd
like
for
the
applicant
to
explore
alternatives
for
providing
universal
accessibility
to
the
building,
whether
that
is
the
front
entrance
or
a
an
alternate
main
entrance
to
the
building.
If
it
is
the
front
entrance,
then
refinement
to
the
alterations
to
look
at
the
arrangement
of
transoms.
The
choosing
of
the
hopefully
you're
the
drawing
on
the
left
is
is
from
now
skis
plans.
So
it
does
give
us
some
idea
of
what
the
original
front
door
would
have
looked
like
and
then.
M
Finally,
the
implementation
of
the
conservation
measures
that
are
outlined
in
document
11
I
won't
go
into
big
detail
on
those.
But
if
there
are
questions,
I
can
answer
them
documentation
of
the
building
prior
to
demolition
and
then
providing
a
letter
of
credit,
an
amount
to
determine
with
staff
and
the
applicant.
M
But
the
idea
of
this
is
that,
given
the
risk
associated
with
this
project,
that
a
letter
of
credit
and
the
amount
equal
to
the
estimated
cost
to
stabilize
repair
and
restore
the
facade
in
the
event
of
a
collapse
would
be
provided
by
the
applicant
and
it
would
be
held
by
the
city
until
the
facade
work
is
completed.
And
that
concludes
my
lengthy
presentation.
I
apologize,
it's
a
very
complicated
project,
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions.
Okay,.
A
K
Good
morning
morning
have
thank
very
much
for
allowing
us
to
make
a
presentation,
actually
I
think
scones
done
an
excellent
presentation.
I,
don't
think
I
really
have
to
add
anything
to
it.
We're
here
to
answer
or
to
answer
specific
questions.
I
also
have
with
me
the
structure
engineer
involved
with
the
actual
showing
process.
If
there's
a
specific
questions
to
him,
he
can
be
brought
forward
with
regards
to
techniques
on
how
the
facade
is
being
held
up.
K
How's
our
geotechnical
year
as
well.
If
there's
I,
know,
there's
concerns
about
building
high-rise
buildings
in
this
area.
I
would
like
to
say,
though
this
is
when
he
projects
quite
honored,
to
be
working
on
this
project
path.
How
do
I
taught
is
probably
the
most
important
areas
buildings
in
in
Senegal,
I
am
estate,
Ottawa,
actually
and
I.
K
Think
our
approach
has
been
quite
respectful
of
the
building
working
with
Miss
Collins
during
the
rezoning
process
a
number
of
years
ago,
we
were
making
sure
that
the
envelope
we
knew
if
somebody
would
be
taking
this
forward
into
development
who
would
protect
the
heritage
building,
and
then
we
were
lucky
enough
to
get
that
task
with
a
different
owner.
So
looking
forward
to
moving
forward
with
this
project,
okay,.
N
I,
just
following
up
on
the
presentation
and
some
of
the
discussions
we've
had
I
guess
when
you
look
at
that,
the
pictures
of
the
shoring,
they're,
great
they're,
really
shocking,
really
and
we'll
be
looking
at
that
for
at
least
about
18
months.
I
think
is,
is
what
is
expected,
and
you
know
it's
I
don't
want
to
be
as
I,
certainly
like
colleagues
who
don't
want
to
be
relative
about
heritage,
so
I'm
not
going
to
compare
this
in
any
way
to
Somerset
House,
but
we
do
have
a
comparison.
N
Obviously,
and
that
can
you
just
just
in
a
bit
more
detail,
discuss
how
that
showing
will
work
so
that
we
won't
get
seepage
into
the
walls.
I
mean
you're,
essentially
losing
the
the
inside
of
the
building.
My
understanding
is
that
this
is
not
facade
ism
that
you
are
going
to
document.
What
is
there
now
and
we
established
the
inside
of
the
building
about
any
interim
in
the
interim?
How
how
you
prevent
any
seepage,
any
deterioration
of
of
those
walls
and
I
understand
that
you
know
we
do
have
a
guarantee
to
a
lot
of
credit.
N
If
you
know,
if
we
do
get,
something
does
happen
and
try
to
go,
and
you
know
part
of
the
wall
or
two
to
collapse
or
we
lose
part
of
the
Heritage
attributes.
But
what
if
you
could
explain
to
the
committee
into
myself-
and
you
know
for
the
benefit
of
the
community,
what
exactly
you're
going
to
be
able
to
do
to
ensure
that
we
don't
get
deterioration
over
18
months
in
Natomas,
Falls,
yeah.
K
Iit
I
said
in
two
parts,
so
they
the
goal
is
actually
to
create.
In
the
end,
a
better
building
and
Alma
was
built
in
terms
of
floor
assemblies
and
by
rating
and
everything.
So
by
removing
this
structure,
we
are
having
difficult
burying
the
original,
the
Bo's
tower
to
the
old
structure
and
different
movement
between
the
two,
and
there
are
some
concerns
about
how
that
would
take
place
so
through
the
design
denouement
process.
The
idea
was
who
could
be
in
background.
K
Let
the
facade,
remove
it
and
then
actually
pour
new
with
the
new
construction
for
new
floors
to
be
perfectly
aligned
where
the
old
floors
were
so
windows
remain
the
same
relationship.
Florida
window
stays
there,
so
you
say
in
the
same
activity
on
the
street,
so
the
engineers
come
up
with
a
fairly
significant,
interesting
approach
on
basically
the
trust
form
on
the
outside
of
the
building
reaching
through
the
building
and
opening
the
facade
together
and
involves
piles
on
both
sides
of
the
wall.
So
we're
quite
comfortable
with
a
how
that's
being
held
up
I.
E
F
Respect
to
protection
of
the
defined
I'm
here
just
character.
It's
certainly
one
of
our
primary
concerns.
Much
like
the
example
or
I
would
say
bad
example:
Somerset
House
we
be
working
with
the
design
team
and
what
what's
proposed?
You
know
both
in
the
I
guess.
Final
version
will
be
additional
flashing
and
water
shedding
of
the
skyward
facing
joints
and
and
architectural
details.
But
in
the
interim,
during
those
18
or
20
months,
the
matrix
or
frame
that
will
hold
the
building
up,
we
have
advised
that
there
actually
be
almost
a
full
roof
that
goes
over.
K
The
largest
one
that
I
know
boaters
and
currently
you
can
see
it
in
Toronto
down
on
I,
think
bluej
away
in
King,
Street
West,
that's
a
five
storey
building
similar
time
period.
It's
been
held
for
quite
some
time
now.
Anything's
been
there.
These
couple
years
held
in
place
and
they've
excavated.
They
decided,
and
there
are
examples
of
smaller
buildings
doing
this.
So
the
system
does
work.
This
will
be
interesting,
I
think.
As
you
say,
we
still
were
the
oven
file
for
the
Shorin
yet
or
so
some
design
issues
being
resolved
right
now.
K
The
application
should
be
made
over
the
next
week
and
hopes
that,
in
the
through
the
initial
approval
process
threw
that
ball
in
midair
through
the
ball.
We
can
start
doing
this
work
in
for
spring
construction
start
site
plan
has
been
applied
for,
and
minor
variants
were
speaking
to
is
basically
it's
a
result
of
when
they
set
the
height
of
the
2727.
Sorry
I
limit
in
this
area.
They
were
thinking
of
the
sort
of
standard,
4,
meter,
ground
floor
and
then
3
meter
floors.
K
All
the
way
up
by
matching
those
person
explores
they're,
actually
have
11
foot
Florida
floor
slightly
higher
and
for
lower
asking
Poor's.
We
capture
that
5
feet
lost
through
the
building.
So
that's
the
reason.
We're
still
seeking
to
the
27
stories
is
just
really
just
having
that
a
traditional
8
to
make
sure
our
our
lines
of
the
podium
line
up
for
the
line
of
the
original,
as
opposed
to
slipping
something
in
with
their
offset
and.
N
Just
the
last
question:
although
this
is
not
a
huge
element,
it
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
points
that
led
me
to
not
support.
The
original
application
was
the
hotel.
You
see
the
application
that
came
I
guess
three
years
ago,
three
and
a
bit
years
ago.
My
understanding
is
that
use
is
no
longer
being
contemplated
to
say
that.
K
That's
correct:
it
was
anticipated
when
the
zoning
was
was
an
interested
purchaser
who
had
the
idea
of
running
it
did
not
actually
deal
sort
of
never
came
to
a
conclusion
and
that
Jaco
that
group
from
Montreal
who
was
during
the
development
looking
at
was
purely
as
a
rental
building,
because
that
is
just
a
rental
Gomez.
So.
N
A
There
was
a
question
on
this
side.
Remember
small,
thank.
E
You
I
support
the
project
that
it's
great
but
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
going
ahead,
the
one
thing
I
think
it's
very
important:
the
which
architectural
design
of
the
building
we
focused
on
that
front,
entranceway
and
therefore
I
think
putting
the
canopy
in
or
whatever
you
want
to
call.
It
would
be
certainly
support
stars
comments
that
I
just
think
would
be
inappropriate
and
that
you
would
lose
that
really
important
architectural
feature.
E
Having
said
that,
I
think
we're
questions
public
to
Robert
what
I
also
understand
and
think
it's
very
important
from
an
accessibility
standpoint
that
that
be
that
the
accessibility
be
dealt
without
the
front
entrance
that
people
not
be
sent
around
somewhere
else
to
enter
that
they
should
be
Atlanta
the
same
way.
Everyone
else
does
and
therefore
my
question
to
Robert
is:
do
you
feel
that
can
be
properly
done,
respecting
North
case
original
design
intentions
because
I
think
not
other
thing
is
really
important.
I.
F
Fully
agree
with
the
comment
of
the
primary
focus
of
this
miss
main
entrance,
and
we
feel
very
strongly
that
accessibility
solutions
shouldn't
relegate
someone
to
aside
or
other
entrance
that
we
need
to
find
solutions
out
of
primary
entrance.
So,
to
the
question
hand,
I
I'm,
very
confident
that
we
can
detail
this
front
entrance
in
a
way
that
maintains
the
like
dated
lines
and
proportions
of
the
existing
entrance,
and
these
are
sort
of
quite
a
generous
reveal
at
this
entrance
and
some
of
the
discussions
we've
had
with
rods.
F
I
Thank
you
pleased
to
hear
I
I
I'm
planning
on
supporting
this
recommendation.
I
think
it's
a
fantastic
to
see
our
risk
building
as
some
effort
being
made
to
really
secure
a
future
for
this
building.
For
the
other
reasons,
but
I
will
just
to
support
what
member
Smallwood
said
about
the
importance
of
that
front
entrance.
The
questionable
use
of
a
canopy,
and
certainly
those
awnings
I,
don't
even
know
if
we
need
a
motion
on
those
but
yeah.
K
Will
go
right
down
to
bedrock,
so
basically
the
piles
go
right
down
to
refusal,
so
that
takes
that
part
of
the
question
out.
I
mean
the
issues
that
took
place
before
Tribeca
is
another
issue
with
their
dewatering
of
the
Denver
line
that
clay
that
are
in
terms
of
the
facade.
It
will
be
unstable,
walk
so
and
then
the
the
rest
of
the
building
actually
goes
down
to
rock
as
well.
So
the
issue
becomes
if
a
missile
point
of
view
is
a
water
issue
and
on
the
surrounding
soil,
so
I
have
actually
comparisons.
K
A
D
L
D
D
This
whole
area
of
Senate
Allen
is
basically
a
clay
soil
of
Boston,
blue
leader
type
clay
that
extends
down
to
the
bedrock
and
buildings
that
were
built
in
the
past.
Had
a
challenge
had
build
a
foundation
that
would
would
work
in
quite
such
soil.
It
turned
out
with
the
excavation
some
buildings.
They
awarded
two
stories
deep,
that
the
most
practical
way
to
do
that
is
to
put
in
a
car
and
basically
the
buildings
floating
on
the
soil.
That's
the
way
the
building
to
the
north
is
built
and.
D
You
now
have
a
tremendous
problem
with
a
developer
wanting
to
do
a
60-foot
excavation
beside
a
building,
that's
floating
on
on
clay
and
because
it
seems
that
it's
nearly
impossible
to
do
the
excavation,
develop,
showing
a
totally
waterproof
and
keep
the
soil
from
compressing
underneath
the
building.
If
you
create
a
wrote
for
water
to
escape
from
soil,
that's
under
load
the
water
escapes
the
soil
compresses
in
the
building
cells
I,
unfortunately
own
another
building,
which
is
a
block
away
from
where
this
is
going
to
happen.
D
And
four
or
five
years
ago,
Claridge
came
to
me
to
right
adjacent
to
this
building.
It's
an
11-story
building
and
saw
my
111th
story.
Building
and
development
wants
to
do
just
what
is
going
to
happen
here.
Do
a
60-foot
excavation
to
bedrock,
but
also
to
guarantees
that
there
be
no
movement,
no
settlement.
Everything
will
be
done
properly
well,
dealing
with
an
11-story
building
that
settled
five
inches
now
I'll,
try
to
picture
11-story,
building
settling
five
inches
and
in
the
process
of
doing
that,
there
was
a
lot
of
differential
settlement
which
we
thought
that
we
damaged.
D
So
we
have
a
problem
to
deal
with
this
and
in
having
been
resolved.
Yet
now,
I
find
myself
with
another
building
adjacent
to
another
project
where
a
developer
wants
to
do
a
sixty-four
excavation.
So
of
course,
I'm
concerned
that
this
project
in
hell,
it's
going
to
work.
How
I
understand
it?
This
is
a
Heritage
Committee,
so
obviously
I
shouldn't
be
addressing
you're
totally
on
the
issues
of
excavation
insuring
and
that
kind
of
stuff.
The
Heritage
part
of
it
is
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
right.
D
So
I'd
like
that
I'd
like
to
suggest
a
proposed
one.
Why
do
I
am
the
next
month's
in
the
few
months
months,
Carm
I'm
going
to
have
to
negotiate
with
the
developer,
who
wants
to
develop
this
property
and
some
agreement
of
some
kind
about
shoring
pie,
box,
etcetera
and
how
it's
going
to
affect
my
building
I'm
going
to
try
and
do
that
in
such
a
way
that
I
don't
have
damage
to
my
building
and
do
the
best.
I
can,
however,
I
perceive
that
the
developers
problem
here
with
this
heritage
building
is
by
charity.
D
Six
storey
high
wall
that
very
likely
before
it's
all
over
at
the
he
won't
be
so
pleasant.
So
I
just
like
to
suggest
that
you
might
consider
recommending
that
that's
an
option
that
developers
should
have
provided.
Of
course,
everything
is
put
back
exactly
where
it
was
and
just
in
making
a
final
comment.
D
A
F
F
You
can
imagine
people
getting
it
going
to
get
acupuncture,
they
want
to
receive
something
that
is
relaxing
and
when
the
house
is
shaking
or
there's
a
lot
of
noise.
I
have
had
I
had
some
loss
of
business,
so
I
understand
our
bylaws
I
understand
for
noise,
but
the
fact
that
now
it
will
be
so
close
to
a
house
I'm
concerned,
so
I
just
wanted
to
voice.
My
concern
I
had
nothing
wrong
with
this
building
being
built,
I'm
happy
that
they're
going
to
keep
the
integrity
and
I
realized.
This
is
more
about
about.
F
N
You
chair
more
a
comment
Martin
and
then
a
question
in
terms
of
the
noise
and
I
hear
you
it's,
it
can
be
very
difficult
and
you
know
we
as
we
you
know,
build
in
the
downtown.
We
live
in
very
close
quarters.
This
effect
on
on
neighboring
properties
and
residences
residents
can
be
significant,
but
just
I
want
to
just
point
out.
N
You
know
this
is
an
early
discussion
as
well.
You
know,
as
as
the
buildings
happening,
this
is
an
if
this
would
be
considering
info
because
it
is
very
close
to
other
residential
properties,
so
the
noise
by
law
for
infill
would
kick
in.
So,
although
you
know
not
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
make
noise
all
day
long,
it
can
only
start
a
bit
later
on
the
weekends.
Then
normal
commercial
construction
can.
N
A
L
Welcome
back,
we
do
I'm
now
very
pleased
to
to
how
to
support
this
recommendation,
and
we
are
pleased
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
submit
our
comments
prior
to
the
staff
report
being
finalized
and
it's
in
document
13
of
the
stop
report.
This
is
I
think
a
good
example
of
vintage
facade.
Is
you
know
how,
when
you're
trying
to
develop
our
downtown
but
yet
preserve
our
built
heritage?
L
One
of
these
is
that
there
has
been
mentioned.
Readable
people
was
the
main
entrance.
Early
access
and
I
just
were
offered
this
as
a
suggestion
merely
to
look
at
what
has
happened
with
quiet
house
on
at
150
Eldon
streets
now
vector
restaurant
and
they're.
Accessible
access
is
on
the
side
of
the
going
the
court
gallery
into
the
behind
there,
and
that
might
be
an
option
to
look
at.
L
A
Thank
you
for
that
suggestion.
Any
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
I
see
none.
Thank
you
very
much
coming
out
a
second
time
on
this
item.
Maybe
I'll
just
kick
off
the
questions
to
staff,
although
not
a
heritage
item.
A
couple
of
the
public
delegations
expressed
concerns
related
to
construction
and
settling
and
so
on.
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
or
maybe
speak
to
those
members
afterwards
to
provide
advice.
But
if
you
wanted
a
chance
to
say
anything
now,
I
wanted
to
give
you
that
opportunity.
M
Mr.
chair
I
just
like
to
say
that
at
this
point,
obviously
those
are
not
issues
that
are
looked
at
through
the
Heritage
application,
but
this
proposal
is
subject
to
saipan
control
as
well,
and
an
application
has
been
recently
submitted,
I
believe
so
those
issues
would
be
dealt
with
more
in
the
fullness
of
time.
C
C
Presumably
this
is
going
to
be
part
of
the
site
plan,
control
application
process,
and
my
question
is:
has
the
heritage
staff
developed
some
specific
guidelines
that
would
contribute
to
the
design
review
panel
discussions
on
the
materiality
the
forum
and
the
detailing
of
the
new
building
that
is
going
to
be
coming
to
you?
Trp.
M
At
this
point
we
have
not,
but
it
is
something
that
I
think
would
be
well
within.
You
know:
I
need
to
do
in
advance
of
the
going
to
the
you
do
P,
so
it
hasn't
been
yet
as
far
as
the
Saipan
application,
but
it
will
will
go
and
we
do
attend
when
there
is
a
heritage
building
on
the
agenda,
so
they
will,
they
will
have
the
full
information
available
to
them.
C
Having
seen
the
massing
I
think
that
it's
a
very
good
step
forward
in
the
approach
where
you
have
the
the
podium
at
the
same
height,
which
reinforces
the
sense
of
the
massing
not--they,
cannot
be
building
the
setbacks
of
the
tower,
of
course,
helped
to
respect
that
service.
A
lot
of
good,
that's
Mendel,
already
that
Africa
Devils
in
the
details
and
I
think
that
if
you
can
work
towards
a
set
of
principles
to
guide
the
architects
in
the
final
design,
that
would
be
very,
very
valuable
and
I.
C
Don't
know
whether
it's
intended
to
have
comments
on
the
design
come
back
to
the
committee
or
not
I,
don't
think
so,
but
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that
part
and
the
other
in
the
back
of
mr.
Childers,
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
heritage
Ottawa
for
the
work
in
diligently.
Looking
at
each
application,
where
you
need
to
take
it
and
prevented
that
the
thoughtfulness
will
appear
in
front
of
us
I
think
that
they
ought
to
be
congratulated
for
the
volunteer
work
that
they
do
to
make
their
views
known
to
the
both
heads.
C
C
This
is
facade
ISM,
but
it
is
a
very
good
example
of
it
and
I
think
that
the
approach
that
is
being
taken
to
demolish
the
building
behind
and
have
the
lower
levels
equal
to
what
the
floor
levels
were
in
the
building
is
a
very,
very
important
big
move
to
removing
the
kind
of
concepts
that
you
have
in
the
enjoyment
that
the
exterior
facade
say
amusement.
So,
having
said
that,
I'll
be
supporting
an
application.
C
A
H
Over
to
you,
Thank
You,
Sharon,
Thank
You
vice
chair
for
adding
us
on
to
today's
agenda.
I
do
apologize
for
the
tardiness
of
this
item.
However,
I
did
have
a
meeting
late
last
week
with
the
owner
of
Somerset
house,
and
his
agents
and
information
came
to
light
that
I
felt
I
should
be
sharing
with
all
members
of
committee.
As
committee
recalls
last
year,
Council
issued
in
May
2017
approval
for
an
addition
to
Somerset
House
that
Harwich
permit
was
issued
in
that
permit
as
a
cheerier
expiry
in
2090,
ms
otherwise
extended
by
council.
H
Since
that
time,
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
architect
engineer
and
building
hood
officials
to
prepare
plumber
documents
well
throughout
2018.
We
also
received
monthly
engineering
reports
as
well.
It
came
too
late
in
our
meeting
last
week
that
I
am
unfortunately
not
optimistic
that
the
owner
of
Somerset
House
will
be
continuing
with
this
project.
H
Staff
therefore,
will
be
reviewing
over
the
coming
week
enforcement
options
that
will
look
to
ensure
the
public
safety
continues
to
be
assured
that
the
building
is
effectively
sealed
for
the
winter
and
that
now
all
heritage
attributes
the
building
are
restored.
So
I
wanted
to
provide
that
updates
you
all
today
it's
unfortunate
news
but
news
that
I
felt
compelled
to
share
and
we
will
see
action
in
the
coming
week
or
two
with
our
bylaw
and
Building
Code.
Colleagues,
thanks
open
to
questions
councillor.
A
N
Thank
You
chair
and
thank
you
for
for
that
update
I've,
never
been
optimistic
that
that
the
owner
of
this
building
was
serious
about
moving
forward.
We've
seen,
you
know,
I'm
not
going
to
hold
him
responsible
for
the
last
11
years,
but
certainly
over
the
last
several
years
and
negligence
to
allow
this
building
to
deteriorate,
to
a
point
where
major
parts
of
it
who
had
to
be
removed.
N
You
have
to
go
very
hard
to
understand
that
there
are
experts
in
how
to
preserve
a
heritage
and
heritage
of
sitting
at
empty.
At
this
point,
so
I've
never
been
optimistic.
I'm
quite
frustrated
I've
been
frustrated
for
well
11
years,
I'm.
Also,
a
resident
of
the
downtown
I
go
by
bankin
Somerset
daily
many
people
do.
This
is
one
of
the
most
important
heritage
buildings
in
our
city.
I.
N
It
was
not
something
that
folks
felt
comfortable
doing
at
the
time
and,
as
a
result,
the
mayor
established
a
task
force
that
at
least
has
staff
going
out
regularly
and
asking
for
reports
so
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
know
that
it's
only
because
of
that
that
we
have
today's
today's
update,
so
I
do
I
want
to
ask
specifically
about
like
the
enforcement
options.
N
One
of
them
is,
you
know,
to
ensure
that
this
building
is
protected
over
the
winter
I'm
sure
anybody
listening
today
would
be
very
concerned
that
we'll
be
here
next
spring
with
the
story
of
another
part
about
ball
coming
down.
So
I
want
to
know
exactly
what
what
staff
is
going
to
compel
the
owner
to
do
to
ensure
that
that
that
this
building
is
properly
sealed
properly
raised,
so
that
this
is
not
happening
and
the
other
is
on
the
heritage.
Attributes
I
like
to
know
exactly
what
that
means.
N
I
mean
it
does
this
mean
that
we
can
compel
the
owner
to
fix
the
windows
too.
You
know
repair
the
heritage
elements.
The
building
may
still
sit
empty,
but
will
it
look
like
a
properly
preserved
heritage,
building.
H
So
she'll
start
my
response
to
the
council
in
an
alternate
over
to
miss
Coutts,
to
follow
up
there's
two
streams
here.
One
is
the
public
safety
aspect
and
that
is
of
course,
amount
in
all
of
this
and
we
are
receiving,
as
I
said,
monthly
engineering
reports
and
monitoring
the
structure
of
the
of
the
property
Collins
and
will
include
services
are
rather
alongside
us,
so
we
will
be.
H
We
are
receiving
both
monthly
reports
and
we
will
be
ensuring
that
anything
needs
to
be
undertaken
prior
to
this
winter,
to
ensure
that
the
property
does
not
deteriorate
on
the
heritage
attributes
fronts,
seeing
how
council
approved
last
May
a
new
plan
for
Somerset
house,
along
with
our
restoration
plan
on
the
heritage
attributes
in
the
last
year,
we
haven't
been
pursuing
the
active
replacement
or
enhancement
of
those
attributes,
knowing
that
redevelopment
was
to
be
undertaken
this
year
or
next
year.
Now
that
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
the
case.
H
I
N
And
can
I
ask
what
would
be
a
reasonable
timeframe
for
you
to
report
back
I
think
that
the
case
of
Somerset
House
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
just
wait
until
we
get
new
updates.
New
engineering
reports.
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
a
more
regular
update
to
built
heritage
subcommittee.
So
what
would
you
suggest
would
be
a
reasonable
time
frame
share
the.
H
Goal
is
to
issue
those
orders
within
that
I
would
say
within
within
the
month.
Certainly
September,
so
I
can
certainly
convey
that
information
to
Council.
At
that
time
it's
a
matter
of
public
record
and
certainly
calcia
I
can
provide.
We
can
provide
an
update
to
our
next
birth
order
subcommittee
meeting
in
October
on
on
on
this.
N
H
Share
I
believe
I'll
start
to
answering
the
question
by
saying
that
the
what
we
would
ender
taking
over
the
next
few
weeks
would
be
the
most
aggressive
options.
The
city
law
was
undertaken
or
undertaken
against
this
property,
and
so
we
will
start
with
that
aspect
of
issuing
orders
in
hopefully
incentivizing
change
of
behavior
and
approach
on
the
part
of
the
owner.
We
are
also
working
on
the
development
of
a
financial
incentives
program
that
will
be
the
seventh
as
part
of
the
mayor's
task
force
and
heritage
matters
and
I'm,
hoping
with
council
support.
H
That
will
be
something
that
will
be
available
next
year.
So
I
really
feel
that
it
would
be
after
viewing
the
success
or
failure
of
these
orders
and
the
implementation
of
such
a
program.
That
may
provide
incentives
to
this
particular
owner
to
activate
the
site
that
that
the
very
strong
tool
expropriation
would
be
considered.
I
Under
the
government
enters
act,
if
you
give
an
order,
there's
a
certain
time,
I
believe
them
to
do
work
and
then
that
member
city
does
it
and
charge
back
to
the
property
taxes
they
do
that
with
other
things.
I
know
is
that
what's
going
to
happen
in
this
case,
you're
going
to
give
them
very
extensive
orders
of
what
they
have
to
do.