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From YouTube: Built Heritage Sub-Committee - February 11, 2020
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Built Heritage Sub-Committee - February 11, 2020 - Audio Stream
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A
All
right
good
morning,
everyone
and
welcome
to
our
built
heritage
subcommittee
meeting
for
February
11
2020
I'd
like
to
call
the
members
to
order
and
I
want
to
mention.
We
are
one
week
away
from
Heritage
Week,
which
is
next
week
all
next
week,
and
we
have
heritage
day
here
at
City
Hall
on
Tuesday
February,
the
18th.
The
theme
this
year
is
20/20
vision,
bringing
the
past
into
the
future
and
from
11:30
a.m.
to
2
o'clock
p.m.
A
at
City
Hall,
there's
about
40
exhibitors,
who
are
going
to
be
down
in
the
main,
plaza
and
right
at
the
start,
11:30
there's
going
to
be
a
special
proclamation
for
the
defend
bunker,
so
encourage
everyone
to
come
out
to
City
Hall
next
Tuesday.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
today?
Remember
Podolski
YES.
B
A
A
C
The
properties
are
located
at
2:47
Cleve,
Avenue,
340,
Holland,
Avenue,
1275,
carling
avenue,
351
King,
Edward
Avenue
and
39
Riverdale
Avenue
there
up
on
the
screen,
the
photos
of
the
building.
Here's
a
location
map
showing
the
five
properties
the
Carling
Avenue
building
is
the
furthest
west
and
King.
Edward
is
at
the
top
of
the
map
up
in
the
Northeast.
C
The
buildings
are
owned
by
hydro
Ottawa
hydro
Ottawa
supports
the
designation
subject
to
the
understanding
that,
in
an
emergency
situation,
the
designation
will
not
prevent
alterations
or
demolitions
to
ensure
the
provision
of
electrical
services
can
resume
or
be
continued
and
city
staff
agree.
With
this
provision.
Heritage
staff
have
worked
with
hydro
Ottawa
on
the
designation
and
James
McCray
partner
at
ver.
Tera
Corp,
who
represents
hydro
Ottawa,
is
here
today
in
terms
of
policy
framework.
C
The
official
plan
states
that
individual
buildings
will
be
designated
as
properties
of
cultural
heritage
value
and
the
provincial
policy
statement
states
significant
built
heritage
resources
shall
be
conserved
according
to
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
a
property
must
meet
regulation,
Oh
906,
which
requires
a
property
to
have
either
design
historical
or
contextual
value.
The
buildings
in
front
of
you
today
meet
all
three
and
I'll,
walk
you
through
that
evaluation
and
research.
Now,
so
the
building's
all
have
design
value
as
excellent
examples
of
industrial
buildings
that
are
influenced
by
a
range
of
architectural
styles.
C
This
is
hydro
substation
number
two
constructed
in
1922,
influenced
by
Edwardian
classicism.
You
can
see
the
brick
plaster
stepped
parapet,
stone,
Keystone's,
340,
Holland
Avenue
in
the
was
constructed
and
monitoring
classical
style
features.
Simple
brick,
plasters,
stone
door
surrounds
brick,
corbelling
substation
number
three
was
constructed
in
1929,
a
variation
of
the
classical
style,
and
you
can
see
the
architecture
reflects
the
prestige
of
the
expansion
of
the
electrical
network.
At
the
time,
35:1
King
Edward
substation
number
four
was
built
in
1931
features:
decorative
metalwork,
a
metal
entrance
canopy
and
a
stone
stringcourse.
C
Finally,
39
Riverdale
Avenue,
which
is
notably
different
in
style.
It
was
constructed
in
1946
about
15
years
after
the
building
we
just
saw
on
King
Edward
Avenue,
it's
influenced
by
the
Art
Deco
style
as
evident
in
its
MIT,
the
symmetrical
design,
smooth
stone,
cladding
and
lack
of
ornamental
details
individually.
The
buildings
are
all
excellent
examples
of
architectural
styles
and
together
they
show
the
evolution
of
style
that
was
taking
place.
The
building
here
is
the
last
substation
to
be
built
in
a
bold
and
decorative
style.
C
This
is
just
the
detail
showing
some
of
the
architectural
detailing
of
the
buildings.
You
can
see
stone
panel
with
the
buildings
named
middle
entrance,
canopy
suspended
by
chains,
copper
detailing
and
some
large
industrial
metal
windows
which
are
really
beautiful
historical
value.
The
three
buildings
at
the
top
gleep
King,
Edward
and
carling
avenue
were
all
constructed
by
local
architect,
William
CBD,
who
also
designed
the
buildings
at
the
bottom,
the
Ottawa
Hydra
office
at
1:09,
Bank
Street,
the
Ottawa
Public
School
Board
office
at
3:30
Gilmore
and
the
York
Street
public
school.
C
The
building
at
340
Holland
was
designed
by
DJ
Spence
a
Montreal
architect.
Some
examples
of
his
work
are
a
post
office
here
in
Montreal
or
in
Montreal,
and
the
insurance
exchange
building.
39
Riverdale
was
designed
by
jay
albert
durer,
another
prominent
arnold
watt,
architect,
who
also
designs
South
Minister
Church
and
the
Ottawa
Civic
Hospital.
C
So
the
history,
also
the
other
historical
value,
is
associated
with
Ottawa
hydroelectric
commission.
Electric
lighting
came
to
Ottawa
around
1882
when
two
carbon
lamps
were
erected
in
the
lumber
yards
of
lebreton
flats.
The
electricity
business
was
lucrative
and
several
companies
were
clicked
quickly
established
by
the
business
and
political
elites
in
the
city.
Any
smaller
companies
were
subsumed
by
the
larger
one
ones,
and
eventually
the
Ottawa
Electric
Company,
headed
by
Thomas
Aaron,
became
the
primary
supplier
with
a
monopoly
on
providing
power
to
the
city.
C
The
mayor
at
the
time,
James
Ellis
who's
up
on
the
screen
at
the
left,
fought
against
the
monopolies
and
in
1905
frustrated
with
the
lack
of
competition
and
the
resulting
high
rates.
City
Council
held
a
special
council
meeting
to
buy
out
the
consumer
Electric
Company,
which
included
one
small
substation
and
a
distribution
system.
C
In
1916,
the
municipal
electric
department
became
Ottawa
hydro,
electric
Commission,
which
ran
its
own
distribution
system
selling
power
about
from
the
province
of
Ontario,
another
chart
which
is
rare
in
heritage
presentations,
the
demand
for
electricity,
skyrocketed
and
the
hydro
Commission
undertook
an
ambitious
program.
The
resulted
in
the
construction
of
the
substations
in
front
of
you
today
in
1905
there
were
just
over
a
thousand
customers
and
by
1941
there
were
over
16,000
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
headlines
from
the
newspaper
about
the
growth
of
the
company.
C
Finally,
in
1950,
after
42
years
of
being
in
direct
competition
for
the
role
of
primary
power
supplier,
the
city
purchased
the
Ottawa
light
heat
and
power
company
and
then
later
through
amalgamation
in
2000,
hydro,
Ottawa
or
Gloucester
hydro,
Goulburn,
hydro,
Canada,
hydro,
Nepean,
hydro
and
Ottawa.
Higher
hydro
came
together
to
create
hydro,
hydro
Ottawa
that
would
serve
the
entire
urban
population
of
Ottawa.
C
C
The
buildings
are
also
representative
of
the
growth
of
Ottawa
in
the
early
to
mid
20th
century.
Here,
the
locations
of
the
buildings
have
been
overlaid
on
a
map
from
1928.
The
Glebe
substation,
which
is
number
one
sort
of
located
right
in
in
the
center
of
the
map,
was
referred
to.
As
the
West
End
substation,
when
it
was
constructed,
because
it
was
the
first
to
be
built
outside
of
the
core
just
to
zoom
in
to
show
you
on
the
left-
is
how
are
the
Holland
and
carling
avenue
substations?
C
C
Last
but
not
least,
is
contextual
value.
Here
we
have
some
historic
photos.
Sorry,
the
the
one
at
the
top
is
out
of
order,
but
the
one
at
the
bottom
is
not
the
sub.
The
substations
contribute
to
the
understanding
of
a
community
and
are
functionally
linked
to
their
surroundings
as
hydro
substations
that
have
remained
in
use
since
their
construction.
So
1931
was
when
the
King
Edward
station
opened.
You
can
see
the
horses
and
carriages
there,
two
cars
to
the
trucks
we
see
today.
C
The
buildings
are
landmarks
in
their
neighbourhoods
because
of
the
large
size
and
distinctive
architectural
expression.
The
landmark
status
is
emphasized
by
their
location,
primarily
in
residential
neighbourhoods
or
along
busy
arterial
roads
in
terms
of
consultation,
councillor,
Lieber,
Menard
and
flurry
are
aware
of
the
proposed
designation.
C
The
community
associations
were
notified
of
the
proposed
designation
and
I
believe
the
Glebe
Community
Association
provided
comments
here
to
John
wah
was
notified
and
has
submitted
comments
that
were
included
in
the
report
as
well,
and
finally,
the
recomendation,
the
substation
meet
the
criteria
for
designation
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
staff
recommend
that
be
HSC
recommend
that
council
issue
a
notice
of
intent
to
designate
the
properties
under
part.
Four
of
the
Heritage
Act.
A
Thank
You
Anne.
We
don't
have
any
speakers
registered
for
this
item,
but
we
do
have
correspondence
on
file
from
the
Glebe
Community
Association
in
heritage
Ottawa,
both
in
support
of
the
designation.
So
we
can
go
straight
to
questions
from
committee
members.
If
any
committee
members
wanted
to
ask
questions
to
staff
councillor.
D
Brockington,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
for
the
presentation
certainly
have
seen
these
buildings
over
the
years.
In
my
travels,
I
never
really
thought
too
much
about
the
history.
So
I
appreciate
that
context.
I
think
we're
prepared
to
support
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
know.
Have
you
had
conversations
with
Ottawa
hydro
and
what
has
their
reaction
been.
A
E
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
just
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
congratulate
the
staff
on
not
just
this
excellent
presentation
and
the
amount
of
research
in
the
document
that
was
provided
to
us,
which
is
rock-solid,
but
also
that
you
know
all
the
hard
work
that's
gone
into.
The
work
with
hydro
Ottawa
to
have
these
important
properties
designated
I
certainly
am
very
familiar
with
them
as
well,
and
as
a
student
of
history,
I
actually
did
my
own
little
research
paper
many
moons
ago.
E
C
A
Did
have
a
question
kind
of
a
follow-up
to
councilor
brockington
and
you
mentioned,
and
about
the
in
an
emergency
situation
that
hydro
Ottawa
would
be
able
to
perform
any
repairs
required
to
in
sure
that
continuing
delivery
electricity
will
be
the
process.
After
that,
so
say
they
had
to
take
down
a
wall
or
something
to
repair
the
electrical
equipment.
Would
they
still
have
to
come
back
through
as
any
other
property
owner
would
do
if
they
wanted
to
repair
it
or
make
changes
and
repairs
to
it?
How
would
that
work?
Procedurally,
yes,.
C
Following
an
emergency
situation,
once
the
building's
been
stabilized
and
the
the
services
are
back
up
and
running
the
the
owner-
and
this
is
across
the
board-
a
property
owner
would
apply
to
the
city
for
a
permits
for
if
it
was
shoring
or
reconstruction
of
the
wall,
but
staff
have
the
ability
to
process
that
permit
under
delegated
authority.
So
it
could
be
done
much
quicker
than
the
normal
permit
process.
So
we
would
review
those
permits
under
the
delegated
authority
process.
C
C
Yes
thanks:
it's
a
good
question.
I
just
put
up
an
extra
slide,
I
had
on
screen
here,
so
the
designation
itself
is
technically
tied
to
a
property,
because
that's
what
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
allows
us
to
do.
But
in
the
statement
of
significance,
you'll
notice
that
the
designation
itself
and
the
Heritage
attributes
we've
identified
are
specifically
limited
to
the
exterior
of
the
building.
So
the
accessory
buildings
or
any
of
the
infrastructure
associated
with
hydro
is
not
included
as
part
of
the
designation.
B
A
Or
comments
from
our
members
alright,
well
thanks
to
staff
for
this
I
think.
Thank
you
also,
the
hydro
Ottawa
for
their
cooperation
and
collaboration
with
staff
and
I
think
these
are
functional,
yet
beautiful
buildings
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
able
to
recommend
well
hoping
that
our
committee
will
recommend
designation
today
and
they
continue
to
enhance
the
community
many
decades
after
they
were
originally
built.
Our
the
report
recommendations
carried
carried.
Thank
you.
So
this
report
goes
to
Council
on
February
26.
A
Our
second
item
is
an
application
to
alter
to
heritage
properties,
35
and
37,
William
Street
and
41,
and
40
one
and
a
half
William
Street.
These
are
designated
under
part
five
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
located
in
the
Byward
market,
Heritage,
Conservation
District
and
these
applications
altar
are
according
to
plans
by
kwc
architects
received
in
December
2019.
We
have
a
few
people
signed
up
as
delegations.
F
This
application
is
in
front
of
you
today
for
new
construction
in
the
Byward
market,
heritage
conservation,
district,
the
properties
there
are
two
separate
properties
and
there's
four
addresses
to
property
owners.
One
properties
owned
is
35,
37,
William,
Street
and
the
other
one
is
41
41
and
a
half
William
Street.
These
are
being
bundled
into
a
single
report
because
because
they
were
all
affected
by
a
fire
in
April,
19,
so
2019.
F
F
F
This
is
the
street
prior
to
the
fire,
as
you
can
see,
as
I
mentioned,
the
small,
the
small
buildings
on
small
lots
with
retail
storefronts
had
grades
and
and
rental
space
above
sometimes
this
was
actual
apartments
and
other
times
it
was
commercial
use
throughout
the
long
history
of
the
street.
One
of
the
things
about
William
Street
is
how
much
it's
evolved
in
different
different
landowners
etc
over
the
years,
but
it
has
always
been
very
important
at
a
Street
at
the
heart
of
the
Byward
market
that
really
defines
some
of
its
character
again
before
the
fires.
F
So
the
fire
of
April
2019,
you'll,
probably
recall,
was
a
devastating
one
of
the
first
things
that
the
heritage
section
did
after
the
fire
was
to
work
closely
with
the
property
owners
to
save
the
front
facades
of
the
building.
So
we
had
very
cooperative
and
enthusiastic
property
owners
who
were
interested
in
getting
the
street
and
their
businesses
going
again.
F
The
complete
removal
of
the
front
facade
of
41
William
to
be
able
to
clear
the
site
more
efficiently
and
and
underpinning
the
Foundation's
in
preparation
for
the
for
the
project
that
involves
retaining
the
facades
and
building
behind.
So
here
is
current
conditions.
This
is
just
last
week.
You
can
see
that
the
buildings
are
now
shored
up.
The
sidewalk
is
open.
What
didn't
stay
closed
for
very
long,
so
there
was
efforts
of
everyone
to
keep
the
this
important
street
of
byward,
market,
vibrant
and-
and
so
here
is
also
a
taken.
F
Last
week
and
you'll
notice,
you
can
see
the
gap
where
there,
where
the
the
building
was
removed,
to
allow
for
clearing
the
site,
so
the
properties
are
designated
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
and
that
is
why
we
you
in
part
five.
The
Byward
market
heritage
district,
which
was
created
in
1990,
was
the
the
provinces
first,
commercial,
Heritage,
Conservation,
District
and
because
applications
to
alter
are
required.
F
This
is
in
front
of
you
today
part
of
our
discussions
during
the
time
when
we
were
also
working
very
closely
with
property
owners
to
me
sure
that
the
integrity
of
the
structures,
etc
was
was
maintained,
was
to
to
discuss.
There
was
early
in
in
the
process
a
question
about
whether
or
not
this
was
an
opportunity
to
to
alter
and
add
to
35:37
William
Street,
and
this
was
brought
forward
by
the
property
owner
who
was
interested
in
the
construction
of
a
small
apartment
building
that
would
be
tied
in
to
the
his
restaurant
business
at
the
front.
F
F
So
I
would
ask
you
like
to
ignore
in
these
pictures
the
actual
design
of
the
building,
but
look
at
the
mat
at
the
massing
of
the
buildings.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
was
one
of
the
views
that
we
requested
so
again
key
points
where
a
pedestrian
would
be
moving
throughout
the
market.
So
our
our
conclusion
was
is
that
the
the
visual
impact
of
an
additional
two
storeys
did
not
adversely
affect
the
fine
grain
quality
of
William
Street
in
this
location,
the
the
importance
of
the
the
smallest
storefronts
that
I've
mentioned,
etc.
F
They
were
still
very
much
in
evidence
and
not
overwhelmed
by
an
additional
two
stories.
This
is
the
rear
of
the
property
again
and
having
the
front
that
the
the
two
extra
stories
setback
from
from
the
from
the
William
Street
facade,
that
does
move
the
impact
on
to
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
But,
as
you
can
see
here,
it's
a
very
mixed
character.
You
have
the
the
rear
of
buildings
on
York
Street,
and
then
you
have
the
the
the
Rogers
trucks
parking
and
a
more
recent
hotel
to
the
east.
F
So
we
thought
that
the
the
impact
on
this
facade
was
appropriate
again.
This
is
a
view
that
only
a
bird
will
see.
However
it
it
does
serve
to
show
the
the
footprints
of
the
of
the
35:37
addition
plus.
You
will
also
note
to
the
south
there's
a
half
story.
Addition
it's
an
addition
of
a
mezzanine
to
41
41
and
a
half
which
is
intended
to
to
just
give
some
additional
head
space
a
down,
stay
in
the
actual
building
and
and
increase
the
utility
of
the
second
floor
there.
F
F
You
can
see
the
the
outline
of
the
third
floor
in
the
fourth
floor
to
see
that
they
they
there
is
a
step
back
from
the
front
facade
in
a
and
a
further
step
back
again
for
the
for
the
fourth
floor
and
in
an
l-shaped
building
the
the
act-
and
this
also
clearly
shows
the
access
to
the
to
the
apartment.
Buildings
is
from
York
Street
down
a
secure
Lane
which
will
be
lockable.
F
A
building
which,
with
the
that,
with
the
characteristic
rectangular
form
of
buildings
that
face
William
Street
and
the
small
mezzanine
that
I
discussed
in
the
previous
slide,
so
the
proposal
for
35:37
William
Street
involves
two
new
storefronts,
the
replacement
of
cornices
and
in
and
the
addition
that
rises,
two
stories,
as
I
said
above
the
former
roof
to
the
rear
and
the
the
addition
will
contain
apartments.
The
third
story
is
set
back
about
five
meters
from
the
front
facade
and
the
fourth
of
further
1.5
meters.
The
architect
is
also
here
today.
F
He
can,
if
I've
gotten
anything
wrong
and
this
image.
Do
you
see
the
third-floor
balcony
above
a
right
above
the
cornice,
and
we
have
asked
the
architect
to
set
this
back
a
little
further
for
the
final
design
and
that-
and
he
has
agreed
to
do
so
so
the
the
terrorists
on
the
rooftop
of
the
historic
building,
which
is
a
new
rooftop,
but
the
will
be,
will
be
set
back
a
bit
to
minimize
the
impact
of
that
glass,
blood,
glass,
glass,
balcony
and
that
can
be
undertaken
through
minor
design
changes
approved
by
the
general
manager.
F
In
addition,
we've
asked
the
the
portion
of
the
building
that
you
see
that's
a
blank
wall
with
an
8
on
it.
The
8
explains
the
the
building
material.
We've
asked
for
some
visual
relief
for
that
some
kind
of
a
pattern
or
or-
and
the
architect
has
also
agreed
to
do
that,
and
we
can
approve
that
again
through
minor
design
changes.
F
The
new
part
of
the
building
will
feature
glass
and
solid
curtain
walls
with
rectangular
or
metal
screens
that
sit
proud
of
the
actual
walls.
The
screens
color
is
inspired
by
the
historic
stone
of
35
William
Street,
which
was
actually
a
very
interesting
building.
It
was
a
constructed
before
1878
as
a
side
gable
Street
at
some
point,
probably
due
to
a
fire.
It
got
a
flattened,
it
was
side
gable.
F
Sorry,
it
was
a
side
gable
building,
so
not
a
front
Gable.
So
the
slope
sloped
away
from
Williams
Street
at
some
point
in
the
history
of
the
building
that
roof
was
remained
and
it
got
it's
flat.
Roof
form
that
it
has
today
and
and
37
William
Street
has
recently
been
painted
gray
and
that
paint
will
be
removed
to
its
original
color.
F
F
F
F
So
4140
excuse
me
41:48
one
and
a
half.
William
Street
is
a
different
property
owner
again
one
of
the
storefronts
was
removed
with
a
through
delegated
authority
which
permits
us
in
emergency
situations
to
issue
permits
without
having
to
come
to
built
heritage
subcommittee
and
for
for
for
a
permit
under
the
Heritage
Act,
so
that
is
being
rebuilt
and
then
the
mezzanine
at
the
that
is
a
store
less
than
a
story
is
being
constructed.
F
So
I
think
this
really
added
to
the
project
because
it's
allowed,
you
know
the
the
buildings
are
very,
very
different,
but
they've
been
related
because
of
their
tightness
through
throughout
time,
and
so
I
think
that
having
the
same
person
work
on
them
really
helped
us
to
understand
the
the
street
and
the
importance
of
retaining
some
of
the
the
characteristic
streetscape
elements
of
the
street,
including
you'll.
Note
that
the
the
street
for
the
the
storefronts
are
all
brand
new.
F
F
The
the
recesses
of
the
doorways,
which
was
so
important
in
the
19th
century
to
light
commercial
spaces
is
repeated
here
because
that's
a
very
important
part
of
the
character
of
the
commercial
streets
in
the
Byward
market
in
terms
of
consultation,
heritage,
Ottawa,
was
notified
of
the
application
and
I
think
that
you
received
their
their
comments.
Yesterday,
neighbors
within
30
meters
of
the
property
were
notified.
We
have
received
no
comments
back.
The
Lowertown
community
association
was
also
notified
of
the
application
in
early
January.
F
We
received
no
comments
and
we
met
with
the
ward
councillor
who,
as
you
will
see
in
your
report,
supports
the
application
he
did
have
some.
He
questions
about
the
issues.
I've
talked
about
with
the
relief
of
those
large
blank
walls
and
the
windows
at
grade
in
the
back
of
the
building
were
his
idea
and
so,
and
we
discussed
that
with
the
architect
present
and
the
councillor.
So
it's
a
very
fruitful
conversation.
F
So
the
recommendations
are
that
that
that
city
counts,
that
you
approve
the
applications
for
in
front
of
you
today
that
you
delegate
authority
for
minor
design
changes
and
you
issue
the
heritage.
Permit
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
a
little
bit
back
to
this
photo
and
go
through
a
little
bit
of
I,
mean
I've,
described
the
buildings
and
now
I'm
going
to
describe
why
they
sorry
it's
kind
of
not
out
of
order,
but
so
why
I
say
the
recommendation
is
to
approve.
How
did
we
reach
that
conclusion?
Again?
F
We
analyze
the
application
using
the
Byward
market
heritage
district
guidelines,
as
I
mentioned,
these
were
approved
in
1990,
so
they
are
clearly
in
pre
2005
guidelines,
but
they're
still
very
useful
and
we
use
them
for
every
application
in
the
Byward
market.
The
study
the
guidelines
had
a
few
general
principles,
including
that
the
preservation
of
modest
buildings
is
as
important
as
the
preservation
of
monumental
ones,
that
new
construction
should
be
of
its
own
time
and
be
designed
in
what
was
referred
to
as
a
contemporary
vernacular.
The
guidelines
also
encouraged
the
retention
of
small
lot
development.
F
As
you
can
see,
we
did
this.
The
the
applicant
did
that
here
consistent
setbacks.
Again,
these
are
on
the
front
lot
line.
Traditional
storefronts
with
recessed
entries.
The
use
of
larger
windows
are
grayed
with
smaller
ones
above
to
retain
the
pattern
of
retail
at
great.
This
project
does
all
of
these
things,
and
also
also
the
project,
speaks
to
to
height
in
the
Byward
market
and
talks
about
new
buildings,
respecting
the
character
etc
of
the
heights
in
the
neighborhood.
F
Again,
with
the
elaborate
or
with
a
detailed
view,
analysis,
we
thought
that
this
that
this
accomplished,
that
respecting
height,
does
not
mean
replicating
them.
It
means
being
respectful
of
the
character
of
the
building
of
the
street,
has
established
through
its
its
street
phases
and
and
ongoing
character
again,
and
also
the
1990
study
was
undertaken
by
Julian
Smith.
Who
we
all
know,
is
a
very
highly
respected
conservation
architect,
and
he
was
very
consistent
in
his
in
his
analysis.
A
G
Creation
may
be
similarly
achieved
with
a
reduction
in
height
to
better
compliment
the
by
Road
markets,
unique
heritage,
landscape
and
whereas
the
design
at
the
present
height
is
visually
incompatible
with
the
historic
integrity
of
William
Street.
A
significant
heritage
component
of
one
of
the
most
important
commercial
rows
in
the
city
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
amend
the
report.
Recommendation
1
as
follows:
approved
the
application
to
alter
35
to
37
William
Street,
a
property
located
in
the
Byward
market.
A
Okay,
thank
you
member
also.
So
essentially,
your
motion
seeks
to
limit
to
one
additional
floor
rather
than
two
additional
floors,
which
is
what
the
report
is
recommending.
I
will
give
staff
a
chance
to
respond
to
that,
but
I
want
to
go
to
the
delegations.
First
Dominic
santaguida.
We
have
first,
we
have
Andrew
glass,
we
have
Mauricio
Marta,
guau,
guau,
go
and
Colleen.
If
it's
mr.
santaguida.
A
A
E
E
F
E
E
E
B
E
E
B
E
E
D
B
E
B
A
lot
to
go
on
the
material
itself
is,
is
a
it's
a
kind
of
a
stone
product.
So
it's
it's
rich
and
it's
in
its
texture
as
an
actual
material.
It's
it's
a
man-made
product,
but
it's
a
compressed
kind
of
stone.
If
there's
no
resins
in
it,
but
it's
it's.
It's
not
plain
like
metal
siding.
It
has
a
bit
of
a
texture.
Okay,.
E
E
E
F
E
F
Because
41
and
a
41
and
a
half
is,
is
is
considerably
smaller
and
it
doesn't
involve
an
additional
use.
It
has
already
been
approved
by
the
committee
of
adjustment
for
that
and
that
the
approval
was
relief
from
the
provisions
of
the
Heritage
overlay
to
allow
an
extension
of
X
meters
above
the
former
roof
line.
Okay,.
D
Just
wondering,
because
I
think
it
would
useful
before
we
dismissed
the
delegate
to
have
staff
first
comment
on
the
motion,
because
that
might
provide
additional
questions
so
that
the
motion
this
is
capping
the
height
one
additional
story
which
is
in
conflict
with,
what's
being
proposed.
Can
we
have
your
comment?
Please.
F
Heritage
staff,
as
a
group,
you
know,
look
very
closely
at
this
project
when
the
applicant
or
when
the
property
owner
of
3537
asked
to
if
we
would
consider
additional
height,
and
that
is
the
reason
that
we
did
those
those
view,
studies
that
was
to
inform
our
decisions.
It
wasn't
to
convert,
confirm
our
suspicions.
It
was
before
we
had
formed,
formed
an
opinion
and
and
because
of
the
size
of
the
setback
from
the
William
Street
facade,
which
allows
the
the
buildings
very
much
to
be
read
on
their
own
and
the
additional
step.
F
Back
of
the
fourth
story:
the
the
light
color
of
the
of
the
cladding,
so
that
it
is,
you
know
it's
it
is
compatible
with,
but
different
from
the
the
tone
of
the
stone
building
because
of
the
the
you
know,
the
glass,
balconies,
etc
and
and
the
fact
that,
as
you
see
in
this
in
the
picture
on
the
screen
is
that
to
the
east?
There
is,
you
know
like
the
the
hotel,
which
is
very
much
a
1960s
building
that
the
conflict
there
would
be
there.
F
Would
you
know
there
wouldn't
be
a
conflict
there
because
of
the
later
character
of
the
area?
Because
and
again
the
view
analysis
showed
to
us
that
that
you
know
that
this
wasn't
an
adverse
impact
on
the
Heritage
character
of
the
buy
of
the
Byward
market.
Heritage
Conservation
District.
It
was
consistent
with
the
Byward
market
guidelines
that
speak
to
you
know
of
evolution
and
a
range
of
heights
and
respect
the
the
effort
taken
and
willingly
embraced
by
you
know
through
dialogue.
This
has
been
a
one
of
the
most
iterative
design
processes.
F
I
participated
in
in
quite
a
long
time,
so
through
all
of
that
process
and
fine-tuning
the
storefronts
and
and
rebuilding
the
cornice
and
asking
for
things
like
you
know
some
visual
relief
from
from
the
on
the
on
the
facades
that
are
blank.
All
of
that
led
us
to
the
conclusion
that
four
stories
was
appropriate
at
this
site
and
and
that
it
would
make
a
positive
contribution
to
the
Williams
streets
facade,
but
also
increase
residential
housing
in
the
Byward
market.
So
you
know
accomplishing
two
very
worthy
goals:.
D
G
B
Think
at
the
outset
of
the
project,
when
we
took
it
over
and
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
Barry
Podolski's
start
with
this
project.
We
received
it
as
a
four
story
project
and
I
understood.
There
was
a
process
that
had
taken
place
with
the
Heritage
Sally
and
understanding.
What
can
be
done
here
so
I
think
that's
how
we
arrived
at
four
storeys.
D
Just
wanted
to
confirm
so
the
views
that
we
saw
at
the
beginning
of
the
report
that
we're
done
by
BPA
are
they.
They
are
consistent
with
the
heights
that
are
proposed
right
now
in
the
design,
so
nothing
has
changed
from
there
and
the
other
thing
the
CH
is
had
mentioned
a
possible
a
recommendation
of
possibly
keeping
the
party
wall
between
35
and
37
William
Street.
We
haven't
talked
about
that
today.
So
I
don't
know
if
something
that
came
up
in
your
discussions
with
the
architect
or
if
that's
something
that's
being
considered
there.
F
Are
a
number
of
party
walls
that
are
the
stone
that
run
perpendicular
to
William
Street,
but
because
the
interiors
are
not
designated
in
heritage
conservation,
districts
I
didn't
bring
that
up,
but
they
are
being
retained
there.
There
will
be
stone
walls
that
the
remnant
stone
walls
that
I'm
trying
to
think
whether
we
have
a
picture
yet
some
of
them,
so
they
will
be,
they
will
be
incorporated
into
the
new
buildings.
Okay,.
F
A
D
Wanted
to
address
the
comment
about
the
zoning
height
and
the
rationale:
Holzman
consulting
did
a
planning
rationale
and
they
determined
that
the
zoning
for
the
height
of
the
Fishmarket
building
was
part
of
it
is
13.2
and
the
other
part
is
13.5,
and
the
adjacent
parking
lot
at
the
CTV
building
is
also
13.5
and
as
owners
and
consulting
with
the
Heritage
people
we
deem
that
13.5
was
a
reasonable
ask
because
of
the
adjacent
properties
on
the
east
of
our
property.
Okay,.
A
G
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
all
of
your
your
work
on
this
file.
It
I
really
do
like
a
lot
of
the
things
that
have
been
incorporated,
we're
using
the
stone
on
that
side
entrance
the
excellent
design
on
the
storefronts.
You
can
tell
that
there's
a
lot
of
hard
work,
that's
gone
on
behind
the
scenes
for
this,
and
it
really
has
made
the
project
better.
So
that's
greatly
appreciated,
first
staff.
If
you
go
to
slide
three
in
this
presentation,
it
shows
there
we
go.
It
shows
sort
of
the
building
heights.
G
On
this
stretch
of
William
Street
when
I
first
saw
the
report,
I
was
a
little
bit
struck
by
the
height
that
was
proposed
because
it
did
seem
quite
a
bit
higher
than
any
on
this
component
of
the
Market
Square.
So
I
wanted
to
know
if
there
have
been
any
other
infill
developments
on
the
Market
Square
similar
to
this
one
or
is.
F
G
Another
question
on
that
one
I
wanted
to
know:
you've
elaborated
a
little
on
the
rationalization
behind
the
current
height
when
I
look
at
the
heights
in
this
area
and
I
look
at
the
guidelines
for
the
Heritage
Conservation
District.
One
thing
that
comes
in
mind
or
comes
up
in
both
the
commercial
and
residential
areas
and
is
identified
in
the
report
is
that
infill
is
to
respect
the
scale
and
character
of
existing
heritage
properties
and
Street
scapes,
particularly
those
in
the
immediate
vicinity,
its
neighbors.
G
F
F
What
we
look
for
when
and
what
we
agreed
to
when
analyzing
a
four-story
the
addition
at
the
rear
was.
That
is
why
we
undertook
the
view
studies
to
show
to
determine
you
know
where,
whether
or
not
because
again
the
the
the
setback
was
determined
as
and
you
can
see
in
these
photos,
the
Fishmarket
are
now
these
photos.
F
These
views,
the
additional
height
of
the
Fishmarket
building,
and
so
that
was
a
line
that
we
pegged
the
the
third
and
fourth
story
to
again
and
the
end
the
site,
so
the
size
of
the
setback
from
William
Street
was
determined
to
to
be
appropriate
because
of
how
the
the
the
the
the
range
that
you
could
actually
see.
The
third
and
fourth
story
was:
it
was
quite
small
and
sufficiently
setback
that
the
the
character
as
described
in
the
Bible
Market
Heritage
Conservation
District
guidelines
was
retained.
F
Again,
the
the
existence
of
additional
height
does
not
necessarily,
it
does
not
always
constitute
adverse
impact,
and
certainly
this
was
a
massing
model.
So
these
are
not
the
colors
that
that
the
the
architect
ended
up
with
and
those
colors
are
a
lighter
in
character.
So
it
has
a
smaller
impact,
that
of
the
on
that
fourth
story
and
again
to
the
rear,
as
we've
established
the
the
rear
of
the
building
it,
there
is
a
lot
more
height
and
and
and
less
historic
building
fabric.
F
G
F
F
G
G
F
Well,
the
the
the
mister
said
you
know
did
ask
if
he
could
have
six
and
we
said
no,
so
that
was
a
compromise
and
and
then
again
initially
when
we
saw
it
before
these
view,
analysis
were
undertaken.
The
third
and
fourth
story
were
more
closer
to
the
front
facade
and
that's
when
we
when,
if
you
looking
at
the
we
were
looking
at
an
aerial
photo-
and
this
was
with
mr.
Podolski-
who
again
was
very
helpful
in
this
early
analysis.
F
Sorry
I
keep
going
the
wrong
way,
which
is
very
irritating
for
everybody,
so
we
were
looking
at
an
aerial
photo
which
you
know
you
can
clearly
distinguish
these.
These
these
lines
and
the
various
pieces
of
the
Fishmarket
building
and
I
was
very
uncomfortable
and
I
said
to
mr.
Podolski.
Why
don't
you
just
pull
the
front
facade
back
to
meet
that
building
line
at
the
fish
market?
F
G
F
F
D
B
G
D
G
A
Thank
you,
member.
How
so
and
thank
you,
member,
how
so
for
the
the
scrutiny
and
the
questions
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
how
the
final
design
design
was
reached
and
some
of
the
back-and-forth
between
the
applicant
and
heritage
staff,
I'm,
gonna,
call
yeas
and
nays
I'm
personally
gonna
vote
against
member
houses.
Motion
I,
think
there's
been
care
taken
by
the
applicant
with
the
setbacks
and
just
to
ensure
compatibility
with
both
the
heritage
aspects
of
the
conservation
district,
as
well
as
compatibility
with
some
of
the
more
recent
buildings
as
well
and
I.
A
D
G
We
in
our
discussion
right
there
since
identified
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
consider
the
removal
of
the
full
fourth
storey
if
we
were
to
propose
setting
back
that
upper
storey,
so
that
the
visual
impact
would
be
effectively
mitigated
without
having
to
remove
all
of
that
housing
space.
Is
there
an
option
to
introduce
that
as
a
recommendation
or
think.