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Community and Protective Services Committee meeting – April 19, 2018 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
The
childcare
report-
okay,
so
it
takes
two-thirds
to
lift
this
item
carried
on
lifting
the
item.
Correct
item
number
one
status,
update
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee
inquiries;
emotions
for
the
period
ending
12th
of
April
28
teen,
received
item
number
two
commemorative
naming
proposal:
Katy
zoo
and
Jack
fan.
Rink
carried
item
number
three
commemorative
naming
proposal;
Roger
Montpetit
Park
carried
item
number
four
commitment
of
naming
proposal,
Helen,
red
red
path,
Thompson
Park,
carried
item
number
five
childcare
and
early
years
transformation.
A
C
Good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
committee,
so
I'm
joined
by
Jason,
say
Brian
who's,
the
manager
for
Children's
Services,
as
well
as
Lynn
Martinez,
who
is
the
program
manager,
so
they
will
be
reviewing
approximately
ten
slides
with
you
this
morning.
It
covers
the
transformative
change
that
we've
been
seeing
over
the
past
several
years.
It's
a
lot
of
good
news,
it's
positive
opportunities
for
the
City
of
Ottawa,
and
it's
that
additional
funding
that
we've
been
looking
to
for
four
years
and
it
supports
the
needs
of
young
people
and
families
in
the
city.
D
Thank
You
Janice
good
morning,
Bonjour
Timon.
These
are
very
exciting
times
for
childcare
and
earlier
services
and
I'd
like
to
take
a
quick
second
to
thank
staff
and
our
sector
partners
for
their
continued
efforts
in
implementing
new
provincial
initiatives
in
order
to
support
parents
and
give
children
the
best
possible
start
in
life.
D
C
Thank
you
Jason
Rochelle,
good
morning,
since
the
city
has
recently
taken
the
responsibility
for
earlier
services.
It
is
important
to
take
a
moment
to
very
briefly
explain
the
difference
between
child
care
services
and
early
years
program.
Child
care
is
the
caring
for,
and
supervision
of
children,
ages,
0
to
12
and
licensed
settings.
These
quality
child
care
programs
foster
the
development
of
children
and
are
provided
in
homes
centers
or
in
before,
and
after
school
programs.
C
They
allow
families
to
return
to
the
workforce
or
to
pursue
their
education,
and
families
can
also
apply
for
fee
subsidies
to
receive
assistance
with
the
cost
of
child
care
early
years.
Services
are
free
of
charge,
programs
that
provide
opportunities
for
children,
ages,
0
to
6
to
participate
in
play
groups
with
their
parents
or
caregivers
in
attendance
early
years.
Programs
also
offer
workshops
and
pre
and
postnatal
supports
through
these
services.
C
Families
and
caregivers
have
access
to
information,
resources
and
referrals
to
specialized
services
as
needed
cognitive
as
soon
the
people
at
a
specialty,
the
service
that
I
put
Stavros
ela
temper
conductivity
of
man,
let's
felt
oddly
service,
dig
out
a
leak.
White
van
pull
up
at
Stan's
house
Lisa
is
Miguel
awesome.
Her
pool
is
often
d'azyr
who
a
design
by
the
program.
Ika
are
Maloof,
a
million
assault,
ace
Academy
program,
Araya,
Pelican,
say
service,
the
Kelty
father
he's.
C
The
development
is
offered
to
top
a
metal
famiiy
that
Hawaii
the
pasta
closeted
the
fami
podiatric
and
among
the
students.
Ananda
gandha
kill
a
zebra
as
familiar
kuda
service
day
gal.
This
other
select
personal
fouls,
dr.
Fayette's.
It
may
eat
tomatoes
Nevada's
level
as
Caesar
the
taxpayer.
The
group
de
jure
la
campaña
horas
para
sponsored
egg
and
pizza
in
gracias,
mi,
Gandhi,
Khel
t
li
family
response
at
the
guard.
Oceaxe
a
desert
led
versus
pre
post
natal,
epub,
Italian,
dijo
segment,
ad
service,
T
sizing.
C
This
framework
sets
a
vision
for
a
system
in
which
all
children
and
families
have
access
to
a
range
of
high
quality,
inclusive
and
affordable
early
years
and
childcare
programs
and
services
that
our
child
and
family
centered
and
contribute
to
children's
learning
development
and
well-being.
The
framework
includes
four
important
themes:
affordability,
access,
quality
and
responsiveness
and
is
comprised
of
seven
key
areas
of
action
at
sit
there.
C
Just
another
service,
miss
Bergen,
coupie,
La,
Villa,
talita
needed
Lenny,
Feder
Jahi
and
Gazoo
Lokhande
service
legged,
aha
elapid
Stoffels
Killip
offers
$1
per
place
on
account
of
a
clear
vision.
Donata
you
laguna
llaca
masala
pavilack,
a
strategic
remove,
Lipa
leopard
star
falls
elizabeth,
the
garden
otário,
our
diamond
set
secured.
If
a
village
is
owned
in
Nevada
Arizona
sound
is
not
fact.
If
I
mean
or
accent
vast
agam.
The
program
is
obvious:
the
locality,
a
true
self,
a
abode
of
hula
girl,
Martha
elapid,
Stoffels,
kiss
all
taxi
suit,
Lisa.
D
D
Consultation
with
the
sector
is
an
important
component
of
this
process
in
forming
the
integration
and
transformation
of
the
local
system
in
Ottawa.
The
city
has
already
actively
engaged
with
sector
through
the
establishment
of
a
childcare
and
earlier
system
planning
advisory
group.
This
group
includes
childcare
service
providers
preschool
and
nursery
schools
earlier
providers,
the
school
boards
and
francophone
and
indigenous
service
providers
and
those
who
provide
services
to
children
with
special
needs.
D
The
establishment
of
this
group
has
set
the
foundation
for
us
to
work
in
partnership
with
service
providers
to
develop
a
service
plan
that
aligns
to
the
renewed
provincial
framework.
Our
next
step
is
to
consult
in
2018
with
families
in
order
to
develop
a
needs
analysis
to
identify
service
gaps
and
opportunities.
The
service
system
plan
will
be
presented
for
council
approval
in
2019.
D
So
now,
some
just
some
updates
on
childcare.
The
province
provided
the
city
with
an
additional
13.6
million
in
the
fall
of
2017
and
10.3
million
in
2018
to
increase
access
and
affordability
of
childcare,
including
additional
fee
subsidies.
The
province
also
provided
4.4
million
to
offset
the
cost
of
the
minimum
wage
increase
on
childcare
service
providers.
So
since
September
2017,
nearly
950
additional
children
have
been
placed
and
assisted
with
fee
subsidy,
and
it
has
anticipated
additional
thousand
children
will
further
benefit
from
this
additional
funding,
significantly
reducing
or
possibly
eliminating
the
childcare
wait
list
for
fee
subsidy.
D
All
children
currently
eligible
for
fee
subsidy
have
been
approved
and
added
to
their
preferred
preferred
providers
list
to
further
help
these
families
secure
placement.
We
will
also
be
providing
additional
funding
to
childcare
service
providers
in
order
to
increase
access
and
affordability.
Four
families.
This
could
include
increased
operating
hours,
operating,
offering
part-time
care
to
families
or
additional
licensed
home
providers.
D
The
additional
fund
walls
will
be
used
to
increase
affordability
and
help
reduce
or
avoid
fee
increases.
Capital
funding
will
also
be
available
in
2018
to
increase
access
and
support
the
creation
of
new
licensed
spaces
and
high
priority
and
or
underserved
areas
of
the
city.
This
also
includes
new
spaces
in
schools
that
the
province
directly
funds.
D
Now,
an
update
on
the
early
on
services
in
2016,
the
province
announced
that
it
was
merging
existing
provincial
funding
programs
into
an
integrated
system
of
services
and
supports
for
children
aged
0
to
6
and
their
parents
called
the
early
on
child
and
family
centers.
The
city
took
responsibility
of
these
programs
on
January
1st
2018.
The
province
did
provide
the
city
with
an
additional
two
point:
nine
million,
reflecting
the
scope
of
the
new
system.
D
The
city
engaged
with
over
2000
service
users
to
develop
a
needs
analysis
that
showed
parents
and
caregivers,
we're
looking
for
more
locations,
less
travel
time
extended
inflexible
hours,
including
nights
and
weekends,
and
additional
play
groups.
A
new
funding
framework
is
being
recommended,
starting
in
2019.
That
includes
the
establishment
of
service
areas.
A
service
complement
that
aligns
with
the
needs
analysis
from
families
and
an
evidence-based
funding
formula
that
will
allocate
funding
proportionally
across
the
city,
with
a
focus
on
vulnerable
families
and
francophone
indigenous
services.
D
Upon
council
approve
of
the
framework,
the
city
will
accept
applications
from
early
on
service
providers
and
anticipate
selecting
service
providers
by
the
end
of
2018.
As
the
city
is
in
a
transition
year.
The
2018
budget
priorities
for
the
unallocated
funding
will
focus
on
items
one-time
in
nature
to
assist
the
sector
with
the
implementation
of
the
new
system,
while
allowing
for
some
additional
services
in
2018.
D
And
finally,
just
an
update
on
the
journey
together,
the
journey
together
represents
the
provincial
plan
to
respond
to
the
truth
and
reconciliations
commissions
calls
to
action
addressing
the
legacy
of
residential
schools
and
reconcile
relationships
with
the
digitus
people
in
Ontario.
The
purpose
is
to
increase
the
number
of
culturally
relevant
licensed
childcare
spaces
and
expand
access
to
child
and
family
programs
for
indigenous
children
and
families
living
off
preserve
in
Ontario.
D
The
city
was
responsible
for
coordinating
local
needs
assessment
and
supporting
the
development
of
proposals
by
indigenous
partners
to
address
the
local
needs.
The
province
approved
five
proposals
for
a
total
of
nine
point,
six
million
in
2018
and
2019,
and
this
funding
will
create
49
new
childcare
spaces
and
for
child
and
family
programs
that
will
serve
over
2,000
additional
people.
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
The
report
addresses
the
issue
that
I
know
you
were
dealing
with
a
couple
of
years
ago
with
the
transition.
In
a
way
the
funding
worked
for
childcare
transitioning
to
the
money
going
to
the
family
as
opposed
to
the
child
care
center
and
there's
discussion
about
how
this
additional
funding
will
probably
fix
that
problem.
Although
you
say
in
the
report
that
you'll
wait
and
see,
and
if
it
doesn't
you've
got
this
five
million
dollar
reserve
that
you
can
use
to
help
them,
if
need
be.
E
So
that
is
obviously
a
very,
very
good
thing
and
the
second
change
that
we
saw
last
year,
particularly
not
so
much
for
the
child
care,
but
for
particularly
the
before
and
after
school
programs
and
I,
don't
know
if
mr.
Shen
yay
is
here,
but
maybe
you
can
answer
this
if
this
is
more
within
his
bailiwick,
but
there
were
I
guess
changes
in
the
legislation
that
required
some
of
these
providers
to
have
staff
in-house
who
had
particular
requirement.
E
I,
don't
know
if
they
had
to
be
early
child
care
educators
or
there
was
some
kind
of
staffing
change
and
I.
Remember
at
the
time
that
a
number
of
service
providers
of
after-school
care
were
concerned
about
those
changes
and
there
was
the
option
for
municipalities
to
provide
essentially
exemptions
like
to
do
their
own
inspection
of
these
facilities,
so
that
perhaps
the
rigorous
requirement
wasn't
actually
necessary
and
I'm.
Just
wondering
if
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
off
topic
from
what
the
report
is
dealing
with.
E
D
So
I'll
try
to
provide
a
bit
of
an
update
just
as
a
bit
of
background.
Some
of
the
issues
that
recreational
programs
were
facing
were
changes
from
the
legislation
that
didn't
allow
them
to
serve
four
and
five
year
olds.
So
I
know
if
Dan
was
here,
he'd
provide
you
that,
but
he
did
transition
families
out
of
those
rec
programs.
D
Basically,
we
provided
fee
subsidies
for
those
families
to
enter
the
school
system
for
the
before
and
after
care,
and
the
school
boards
are
required
by
legislation
as
well
to
grow
to
meet
the
demands,
so
that
has
been
seamlessly
transitioned
and
there
is
definitely
fee
subsidies
to
help
those
parents
with
those.
Before
and
after
school
programs
as
well.
E
D
E
D
E
B
Knab
cos
don't
appear
most
fish
costume,
Delia,
no
phenomena,
Eva
bra
pralaya,
which
snare
porcitec
iraq
sensorial
is
that
home.
So
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
your
slide
number
six
and
I'm
sure
I'll
come
back
to
my
inquiry
after
these
are
my
question
on
the
report
and
then
I'll.
Let
everyone
speak
and
then,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'll
come
back
for
my
inquiry,
just
not
to
mix
the
the
two
so
on
site
number:
six
I'm
just
curious!
B
So
when
we
speak
of
the
nine
hundred
and
fifty
spots
and
then
we
come
back
and
and
say
that
there's
be
an
additional
thousand.
So
when
I
read
the
report,
it
said
there
was
nine
hundred
and
seventeen
people
waited
on
a
waiting
list.
So
just
by
the
additional
nine
hundred
fifty
spaces,
we
should
cover
that
list
and
more,
if
there's
new
pressures
but
then
confuse
us
to
the
reference
to
it.
A
thousand.
Maybe
you
can
just
explain
that
yeah.
D
So,
basically,
just
to
clarify
since
September
of
2017,
when
we
first
received
the
provincial
funding,
we
have
physically
placed
nine
hundred
fifty
children
into
the
system
and
helping
them
with
V
subsidies.
So
that's
what
our
number
of
children
serve
has
increased
since
then,
so
there
still
remains
nine
hundred
about
nine
hundred
people
on
the
fee.
Subsidy
waitlist.
They
have
all
been
financially
approved
and
added
to
their
preferred
providers
list,
and
now
it's
just
a
question
of
when
they
can
secure
a
spot
with
their
preferred
provider.
D
B
In
the
instance
where
I
guess
this
is
a
it's
it's
out
about
control
in
the
sense
that
when
when,
when
a
family
is
eligible
for
the
for
the
fee
or
when
they
had
a
child
who's
in
eighth
in
the
age
bracket,
they
can
they
can
apply
for
the
subsidy
component
and
then,
if
the
dollars
available,
we
as
we
we
provide
it
in
the
instance
where
not
all
of
those
dollars
were
spent.
Are
we
able
to
carry
that
those
funds
to
the
following
year
so
that
we
can
continue
to
to
not
have
waiting
lists
like
what's?
B
D
When
2017,
because
the
provincial
agreement
was
the
bit
delayed,
they
did
give
us
the
ability
to
flow
that
funding
into
2018,
but
typically
we
are
not
allowed
to
carry
funding
forward.
So
any
funding
we
have
for
this
year
has
to
be
spent,
whether
through
fee
subsidies
or
through
the
other
strategies,
we're
taking
to
increase
access
through
general
operating
tile
providers,
increase
access
so
that
there
is
more
spaces
or
flexibility
to
meet
the
parents
needs
and.
B
D
B
So
in
this
case,
what
I
I
thought
it
was?
You
know
the
increase
of
24
million
the
goals
for
the
numbers
kind
of
seemed
to
give
us
a
range
of
a
period
where
we
know
there'll
be
no
waiting
list,
but
I
didn't
see
a
target
date
or
I
didn't
see.
So
can
you
maybe
why
don't
we
have
a
target
date?
Is
such
an
important
thing
to
not
have
waiting
lists
for
subsidy?
It.
D
B
Okay,
so
relating
to
my
my
inquiries,
so
tell
me
where
I'm
wrong.
We
have
two
lists.
We
have
a
list
of
daycares
and
spaces
and
then
we
have
a
list
of
people
that
want
subsidies.
Now
in
the
past,
it
functioned
well
where
someone
would
get
a
subsidy
or
the
individual
is
identified
with
subsidy,
but
we'd
work.
The
subsidy
was
actually
located
in
a
location
in
a
gallery.
B
Now,
we've
split
that
where
we
have
a
subsidy
component
you're
on
the
list,
you
get
the
subsidy
and
then
you
can
choose
to
go
anywhere
in
town
and
that
payment
will
be
covered
by
the
subsidy
portion,
but
there's
no
physical
space,
that's
dedicated
to
a
subsidy.
So
there's
two
elements
to
that
that
I
that
in
my
inquiry,
I
just
felt
the
response
was
was
plain.
Is
that
I
don't
understand?
We
know
how
many
spaces
are
licensed
and
we
have
agreements
with
our
providers.
B
This
is
a
government
transparency
measure
that,
if
you
are
to
work
with
us
in
that,
in
this
context,
you
will
have
to
provide
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
if
the
real-time
data
is
a
appropriate
wording,
but
some
some
real
data
so
that
we
know
how
many
spaces
are
vacant,
so
that
there's
a
fairness
measure.
So
maybe
you
could
speak
to
I,
sometimes
in
response
it's
very
simplified,
but
maybe
you
could
speak
to
that.
Yeah.
D
For
sure
I'd
be
happy
to
so.
First
off
you
are
wrong.
This
is
definitely
important
to
how
parents
access
the
system
and
giving
them
information.
What
the
inquiry
answer
we
were
trying
to
give
is.
It
takes
a
bit
of
time
to
work
with
service
providers
to
capture
that
data
properly
and
then
to
relay
it
in
a
way
that
can
actually
help
parents
the
data
we
have
currently
it
would
not
help
parents.
D
We
need
to
work
with
our
service
providers
to
figure
out
how
we
can
capture
that
information
and,
like
you
said
in
a
more
real-time
manner
and
then
build
a
system
that
can
do
that.
So
we
have
a
subgroup
built
with
service
providers,
to
start
that
conversation
to
figure
out
how
they
can
provide
us,
the
information
we
need
to
help
parents
and
then
how
to
build
that
platform.
So
it
is
a
priority
for
us.
It'll
take
us
a
bit
of
time
to
develop
that
and
work
with
the
service
providers.
B
D
Yes,
we
are,
we
are
working
closely
with
our
Digital
Strategy
Group
in
the
city,
to
figure
out
how
that
can
also
be
leveraged.
As
part
of
this,
our
first
issue
to
tackle
is
getting
the
data
and
then
those
will
be
built
in
as
we
work
forward
through
this,
so
that
it's
you
know,
the
ultimate
dream
would
be
to
have
a
mobile
app
that
parents
can
see.
Okay,
where
is
spaces
available,
or
what
is
the
waiting
time
for
for
this,
that
parents
can
actually
pre
plan
and
understand.
This
is
their
options
and.
B
D
Believe
so,
I
mean
high-level
access
and
system
awareness
is
built
into
the
per
inch
priorities.
We
need
to
develop
plans
in
order
to
increase
a
lot
of
that,
and
this
has
already
been
on
our
radar
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
give
that
simple
information,
whether
it's
to
for
pain,
families
or
even
to
help
fee
subsidy
clients
just
understand
with
even
planning
like
what
is
a
wait
at
this
agency.
What
is
a
wait
at
this
one
so
that
they
can
have
some
comfort
in
knowing
what
they're
doing
when
they
do
need
darker
needs?
D
B
I
love,
if
the
clerk
in
their
minute
in
the
minutes
could
reflect
that
so
that
we
can,
because
for
me,
I
get
your
response.
I
think
it's
more
clear
now
at
committee,
but
I
do
want
a
time
stamp
on
this,
that
you
know,
there's
a
commitment
from
staff
that
we
ought
to
come
back
with
some
some
measures
of
fairness,
I,
don't
know
how
that
couldn't
be
accounted
for.
B
Okay
and
then
my
final
one,
which
I
go
back
to
my
initial
two
lists:
process:
subsidy,
spaces
and
day
care,
I
understand
in
the
past,
why
we
had
why
we
ident
carry
through.
We
had
to
work
with
the
parent
who
needed
the
subsidy
to
ensure
that
the
space
was
available
in
the
daycare
that
made
total
sense
to
me.
But
now
I
feel
like
we're
running
an
old
system
where
we
have
two
lists.
B
We
have
a
list
of
okay,
parent
X
you're
entitled
to
the
subsidy
so
that
your
child
can
go
to
the
daycare
and
that
the
amount
is
covered.
But
I
don't
understand
why?
That's
we
give
an
advantage
in
the
system
like
the
child
care
providers
are
chasing
those
subsidies
and
I'm.
Like
I,
don't
understand
it,
the
actual
payment
to
the
to
the
daycare
is
exactly
the
same,
but
we've
created
a
system
where
they
they're
still
dependent
on
this
element
of
subsidy.
B
So
I
want
to
understand
how
we
plan
to
separate
both,
and
you
and
I
have
had
conversations.
I
think
that
at
the
city
we
have
our
own
childcare.
Centers
I
believe
that
we
should
lead
those
efforts
initially
and
then
get
the
the
sector
and
I'll
give
the
analogy
of
a
presto
card
when,
when
you,
everyone
has
a
presto
card
that
gives
you
access
to
the
bus,
but
the
amount
that
you've
paid
for
your
presto
card,
that
you
are
an
adult,
a
regular
adult
or
you
pass
or
whatever
that
you
don't
see.
B
That
and
I
think
that
that
kind
of
trips
up
the
system,
if
there
were
no
spaces
in
daycares
we'd,
have
a
different
discussion,
but
because
the
spaces
are
available
because
the
systems
are
run
in
parallel,
I,
don't
understand
why
they
there's
touch
points.
So
maybe
you
could
eliminate
us
as
to
what
the
game
plan
is.
There
yeah.
D
So
you
again
you're
not
incorrect.
It
is
definitely
back
to
the
provincial
vision
of
increasing
access
and
affordability
for
all
children.
These
are
the
steps
we
need
to
take
in
our
service
system
plan
to
identify
strategies
on
how
to
adapt
this
so
that
all
children
have
access
to
this
type
of
care.
So
in
the
past
the
priority
was
typically
on
the
fee.
Subsidy,
clients
and
the
program
was
developed.
That
way.
D
Now,
with
this
renewed
framework
from
the
province,
we
need
to
develop
better
strategies
to
ensure
accesses
for
all
children
and
that'll,
be
changing
the
wait,
lists
and
different
things
like
that.
So
we
will
bring
those
strategies
forward
in
our
service
system
plan
after
we've
done
consultation
and
after
we've
gathered
information
from
families
on
what
can
what
they're
looking
for
and
these
type
of
care
and.
B
D
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
and
I'm
sure
I
just
want
to
finish.
I
know
that
my
inquiry
kind
of
time
to
a
report-
that's
very
positive
I.
These
are
very
I'll,
describe
them
almost
as
operational
measures
that
I
I've
been
in
conversation
with
staff
for
some
time
and
I'm.
Happy
that
they've
come
to
the
committee
floor.
I
want
to.
You
know,
commend
Janice
and
Jason,
and
the
team
specifically
for
their
they've,
lived
through
a
transition
and
right
now
we're
in
a
really
unique
position
to
not
have
waiting
lists
and
subsidies.
B
F
Little
question:
if
I
can
squeeze
in
there,
first
of
all,
just
a
personal
antidote.
As
someone
who
has
two
kids
I
went
through
the
experience
of
trying
to
find
childcare,
which
is
very
difficult,
and
in
my
community
there
was
a
saying
that,
as
soon
as
you
conceived,
you
had
to
get
your
name
on
the
waiting
list,
because
it
was
that
bad
Bayview
public
school
was
the
school
in
the
neighborhood
that
was
very
hard
to
get
into
it
used
to
have
care
not
under
the
school
board.
F
It
was
the
old
Ottawa,
school
danger,
shrink
and
just
the
whole
get
your
name
in
the
system.
You
don't
get
any
reply
back.
You
don't
know
where
you
were
on
the
list,
it's
very
challenging,
so
anything
that
makes
it
easier
to
find
care
in
your
neighborhood,
that's
affordable,
and
this
myth
that
just
because
you're
working
you
can
afford
it.
It's
not.
Even
if
you're
out
of
University,
you
have
debt,
you
have
a
mortgage.
Your
disposable
income
is
not
like
it
is
for
others.
So
it's
it's
a
challenge
for
many
folks.
F
My
question,
though,
is
what
is
the
rule
of
the
role
of
schools
in
the
future
for
child
care
services?
Certainly
they
have
the
early
learning
EDP
program,
which
is
for
kids
who
are
in
school.
But
why
are?
Why
is
the
province
not
taking
better
advantage
of
schools
which
are
still
hubs
of
the
community
which
have
a
lot
of
facilities
already
there?
No
new
infrastructure
dollars
needed?
Why
are
we
not
seeing
more
pre-school
programs
in
schools?
Do
you
have
any
information
on
that
yep.
D
So
just
high
level,
the
province
has
schools
first
policy
and
they
have
been
injecting
a
lot
of
capital
dollars
in
the
last
few
years
to
build
more
infant
toddler
and
preschool
spaces
in
schools.
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers,
I
thought
my
head,
but
it's
approximately
500
spaces
that
have
already
been
opened
in
schools
and
there's
approximately
500
more.
That
will
be
open.
They
just
released
a
new
round
of
capital
funding
for
schools.
Part
of
that
is
the
existing
schools.
D
Part
of
that
is
new
schools
and
when
they
are
building
these
schools,
they
are
thinking
about
childcare
and
have
it
not
in
there
and
then,
ultimately,
it's
up
to
the
school
if
they
want
to
operate
those
childcare
centers
or
have
a
third
party
provider
come
in.
So
the
province
has
injected
a
lot
of
capital
money
to
schools,
to
build
more
sites
and
we're
hoping
that
with
the
provincial
announcements
that
they
continue
to
increase
the
access,
whether
it's
through
schools
or
community,
based
funding,
because
access
and
just
simply
the
number
of
spaces
does
cause
challenges.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councillor,
Parkington.
Anyone
else
well,
thank
you,
Jason.
When
Janice
for
your
presentation
very
thorough,
we
appreciate
it
and
it's
good
news.
Obviously
I
think
all
we
can
hope
is
that
whoever
forms
the
next
government
in
the
province
of
Ontario,
whatever
that
might
be,
maintains
the
commitment
to
child
care
in
the
province,
because,
obviously
this
is
much
better
than
we've
seen
in
the
past
and
we're
trending
in
the
right
direction.
We'd
hate
to
go
back
in
time
when
we
have
a
different
government.
A
A
Okay,
before
we
I
stood
the
presentation
this
morning,
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
to
penetrate
who
has
devoted
more
than
40
years
to
the
fire
service.
He
served
as
our
fire
chief
for
the
last
three
years
and
regrettably,
today
is
his
last
meeting
as
our
fire
chief
as
Jerry
I,
don't
know
wise
too
young,
but
has
decided
to
retire
and
Jared
to
say
you
have
shown
solid
leadership
in
moving
the
service
forward.
A
In
the
ever-changing
field
of
firefighting,
the
service
has
adopted
new
technologies,
including
the
automatic
vehicle
routing
recommendation
project
mobile
data
terminals
to
better
serve
residents.
Ottawa
Fire
Services
has
also
collaborated
on
the
multi-year
fire
dynamics
project
which
aims
to
develop
a
national
curriculum
to
improve
modern
firefighting.
Chip.
Ng
Tory
has
been
a
strong
advocate
for
mental
health,
making
great
strides
to
provide
his
people
with
the
support
they
need.
Lee
chef,
pinja,
Tory,
Aten,
Adam,
Duvall,
further
less
on
time
and
tile
a
Baku
fare
poor
affair.
A
C
G
H
Chair
this
morning,
it's
our
pleasure
this
morning
to
present
you
the
annual
report
of
the
great
work,
the
men
and
women
of
the
fire
service.
Do
I
also
echo
your
your
comments,
we're
losing
a
great
leader
and
he's
been
tremendous
tremendous
support
to
me
in
the
entire
department,
but,
more
importantly,
the
fire
service
assisting
him
this
morning
will
be
acting
chief
Kimia
as
we
do
a
transition
to
ensure
continuity
to
this
critical
service.
Jerry
and
Kim
have
been
tag-teaming.
H
The
the
service
I
had
told
Jerry
about
a
month
ago,
I
said
well:
wool
will
maim
an
Acting
Chief
and
you
can,
you
know,
start
doing
your
swan
song
and
going
to
say
goodbye
to
everybody,
but
Jerry's
been
so
involved.
I
think
it
was
last
week
he
told
me,
yeah
I,
haven't
I
gotten
to
say
goodbye
to
anybody,
so
hopefully,
after
today's
presentation,
you'll
have
the
rest
of
the
week
to
to
get
saved
by
colleagues
and
friends,
but
I
also
want
to
thank
him.
G
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
report
and
highlight
the
excellent
work
provided
by
the
women
and
men
of
the
Ottawa
Fire
Service.
As
you
know,
we
continue
to
protect
the
lives
and
property
and
environment
of
residents
and
visitors
to
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
as
a
proud
chief
I'd
like
to
say
we
do
that
extremely
well.
G
While
the
Ottawa
fireteam
is
comprised
largely
of
career
and
volunteer
firefighters
in
the
suppression
sector,
we
can't
forget
those
who
who
work
in
inspection,
education,
safety
and
communications
I'd
like
to
take
a
moment
to
highlight
some
of
the
more
notable
statistics
for
you
in
2017
was
a
very
busy
year
for
our
staff.
With
over
ninety
three
thousand
calls
received
in
our
communications
center,
an
average
of
two
hundred
and
fifty-five
calls
a
day.
G
Crews
responded
to
over
25,000
incidents.
It's
a
4.3
percent
increase
over
those
reported
in
16.
While
there
are
more
increase
in
incidents.
The
number
of
actual
fires
decreased
by
sixteen
point,
four
percent
I
love
to
take.
You
know
I
say
our
prevention
staff
has
done
an
excellent
job,
but
I
could
tell
you
that
I
think
the
some
of
it
was
attributed
to
the
unusual
wet
conditions
we
had
here
in
Ottawa
the
past
year.
G
Of
course,
we
participated
in
a
doors
open
Ottawa,
which
is
an
and
also
some
multi-location
Food
Bank
programs,
community
fundraisers,
various
public
relations
events
to
name
a
few
examples,
of
course,
would
be
to
talk
about
again
a
little
bit
about
our
wake
up
program:
fire
suppression,
crews
visited
14,000
homes
to
ensure
that
residents
had
working
smoke
and
carbon
monoxide
alarms
with
the
ultimate
goal
of
increasing
the
number
of
working
alarms
across
the
city.
As
aging
population
of
City
of
Ottawa
continues
to
grow.
G
177
smart
burners
were
distributed
and
distilled
in
social
housing
units
in
an
effort
to
reduce
risk
of
kitchen
fires
in
the
homes
of
the
vulnerable
seniors.
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
know
these
smart
burners
do
it's
that
if
somebody
forgets
the
burner
on
it
actually
shuts
off
by
itself
preventing
an
overheating
situation
so
very,
very,
very
well
received,
and
it
has
reduced
fire
fires
in
a
Prevention
Week.
The
national
theme,
of
course,
was
fire.
G
G
G
Ottawa
Fire
Service
began
a
proactively
inspecting
assembly
occupants
across
the
city,
including
large
assembly
venues,
hotels,
motels,
restaurants,
arenas,
ensuring
compliance
with
the
Ontario
Fire
Code
by
the
end
of
June
2017.
We
had
completed
over
300
inspections
of
these
high
priority
buildings.
As
per
the
legislation.
All
vulnerable
properties
like
senior
homes
are
inspected
within
a
12-month
period.
The
inspections
which
include
review
of
fire
safety
plans,
approval
of
fire
drills,
is
a
multi-day
procedure
that
often
requires
participation
of
several
fire
prevention
officers.
G
Also,
we
have
a
terrific
partnership
with
the
Ottawa
community
housing
in
2017.
We
conducted
proactive
inspections
to
more
than
a
hundred
of
their
units
across
the
city
of
Ottawa,
and
these
inspections
were
conducted
to
ensure
all
fire
and
safety
systems
within
each
Ottawa.
Community
housing
building
were
being
maintained
at
the
requirement
of
the
code.
The
collaboration
partnership
has
resulted
in
safer
homes
for
residents
and
the
Ottawa
community
housing
buildings
I'm
glad
to
report.
G
As
the
chair
mentioned,
with
some
of
our
technology,
our
technology
and
the
fire
service
has
grown
exponentially
and-
and
certainly
if
you
look
at
our
statistics
in
a
lot
of
ways,
we
are
improving
our
response
times
and
this
one
in
particular
has
been
close
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
being
able
to
come
up
with
the
automatic
vehicle
routing
recommendation.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
right
now,
it's
the
closest
station
response,
whether
or
not
the
vehicle
is
in
the
station
or
not.
That
goes
to
an
incident
in
a
very
very
near
future.
G
We
will
be
sending
the
closest
apparatus.
So
you
know
if
another
apparatus
is
driving
back
from
a
fire
and
happens
to
be
in
some
other
area
and
two
blocks
away
from
the
fire
at
times.
We
would
not
know
that,
but
now
the
dispatch
will
automatically
send
them.
So
it's
only
going
to
improve
our
response
times
and
the
other
of
course
I'd.
Like
you
know
here
in
my
notes,
it
says
the
project
was
initiated
in
a
2017,
open
air
fire
permits
online
I,
remember
back
and
just
after
amalgamation
working
on
this.
G
I
guess
highlights
some
of
our
leadership
and
innovation
in
our
department.
Once
again,
we'll
talk
about
the
fire
dynamics
program
in
the
2017.
We
continued
working
with
the
fire
dynamics,
project
and
collaboration
with
the
Defence
Research
and
Development
Canada,
and
the
National
Research
Council
fire
dynamics.
If
I
can
explain
it
as
understanding
how
modern
fires
develop
and
how
they
are
dangerous.
G
G
We
held
a
major
media
event,
highlighting
the
new
curriculum
and
its
ability
to
improve
modern
firefighting
techniques.
Also,
last
year
the
our
personnel
were
trained
by
the
Ottawa
paramedics
and
Ottawa
era.
Trainers
on
how
to
use
a
life-saving,
opioid,
antidote,
naloxone
I'm,
proud
to
say
that
Ottawa
fire
service
is
one
of
the
first
fire
services
Ontario
to
roll
out
narcan,
a
nasal
form
of
the
naloxone
to
all
frontline
apparatus
and,
of
course,
our
continued
success
with
camp
fit
female
firefighters
in
training.
G
This
innovated
innovative
camp
was
the
once
again
a
success
in
2017
at
hosted
24
young
women
who
were
given
the
opportunity
to
perform
many
tasks,
including
auto
extrication,
search
and
rescue
firefighting
simulation
in
a
kitchen
and
a
vehicle
fire.
It
will
continue
to
be
offered
in
the
coming
years
with
hopes
that
it
will
increase
the
confidence
and
the
ermand
of
young
women
to
pursue
careers
in
the
fire
service.
G
G
There
used
to
be
a
time
that
we
looked
after
equipment
better
than
our
personnel,
and
that
has
changed
in
our
mental
health
peer
support
strategy.
We
have
up
your
support
program
that
is
key
component
of
PTSD
prevention
and
it's
a
plan,
as
required
by
the
province.
But
once
again
we
are
I'd
like
to
say
we
are
ahead
of
the
game,
appears
firefighters,
who
have
been
trained
to
provide
their
colleagues
with
confidential
emotional
social
support
in
a
safe
non-judgmental
environment.
G
There's
been
two
training
sessions,
provided
for
these
peers
and
I
could
say
from
July
to
December
of
last
year.
Those
peer
support
teams
have
received
a
hundred
and
fifty-two
requests
for
assistance
from
a
peer
support,
member,
our
mental
health
and
our
mental
health
study.
We
were
able
to
secure
a
six
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
funding
from
the
Defence
Research
and
Development
Canada
to
complete
a
two
year
study
with
the
Ottawa
Hospital
Research
Institute
on
the
mental
health
of
first
responders.
G
This
program
aims
to
provide
ofs
personnel
with
training
and
support
to
improve
their
overall
health
and
well-being
and
the
PIA
fitness
trainers
visited
each
urban
station
soon
to
be
the
Royal
stations
as
well
with
you
know,
providing
operation,
personnel,
the
functional
movement
training
and
an
effort
to
prevent
in
to
reduce
work-related
injuries
and
in
December
of
2017.
All
of
our
fitness
trainers
became
certified
as
a
pure
fitness
trainers
by
the
International
Association
of
Fire.
G
G
I
could
tell
you
that,
when
I'm
invited
to
station
for
a
lunch
used
to
be
a
time
in
my
day
where
it
was
heaps
of
hamburger
meat
and
you
name,
it
now-
I'm
treated
to
salads
that
have
more
fruit
in
it
than
lettuce
and
and
usually
something
like
nice
salmon
or
some
my
dad's.
So
it's
it's
amazing
how
a
little
bit
of
training
has
gone
a
long
way
that
they
are
looking
after
themselves,
which
is
only
helping
us
looking
ahead.
Of
course,
we
did
open
to
new
stations
non
additional
stations.
G
We
were
able
to
combine
two
stations
into
one
and
then,
as
a
result,
take
care
of
growth
in
the
Cumberland
Orleans
area,
and
both
patients
were
built,
completed
on
budget
and
also
we're
looking
at
a
finally
instituting
our
rostering
solution.
This
is
a
solution
that
route
revolutionizes,
how
fire
personnel
are
scheduled
to
whip
called
back
for
shifts
and
how
they
book
leave
entitlements.
Looking
very
forward
to
that
accreditation
is
coming,
do
as
well
for
renewal,
so
over
the
next
18
months
we
will
be.
G
We
will
be
working
with
fire
accreditation
international.
This
will
be
a
substantial
project
involving
fire
service
personnel
from
all
the
visions
and
it
will
be
a
comprehensive
another.
Comprehensive
review
of
the
services
provided,
and
the
last
issue,
I'd
like
to
say,
is
a
large
four.
We
when
you
look
at
the
statistics,
are
our
false
alarms,
have
increased
a
large
number
of
false
alarms
have
been
generated
by
public
institutions
such
as
hospitals,
secondary
Institute's
and
community
housing.
G
The
current
false
alarm,
education
and
awareness
strategy
that
we
have
in
place
obviously
has
not
been
effective
at
reducing
the
false
alarm
and
has
intended
so
Ottawa.
Fire
is
in
the
process
of
developing
a
new
approach
for
reducing
fire
alarms.
Our
new
approach
will
engage
key
stakeholders
in
a
development
of
a
false
alarm
strategy,
recognizing
that
there
are
unique
challenges
associated
with
different
types
of
properties.
As
a
result,
we
will
have
a
proposal
or
strategy
for
consideration
for
committee
and
council
in
the
next
term.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
I
The
clock
to
explore
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
CPS
committee,
Council
at
large
I,
could
let
this
opportunity
go
by
without
sharing
with
you
and
recognizing
and
through
you,
madam
chair,
as
you
did
earlier
on.
We
would
like
to
on
behalf
of
President
Kennedy
and
the
Ottawa
Professional
Firefighters
Online
hundred
eighty
members
acknowledge
the
work
we
have
done
with
our
fire
service
leader,
Gerry
pinja
Torrey
Bochy,
purgatory
President
Kennedy
have
shown
a
very
common
interest.
I
They
both
know
it's
our
members,
his
firefighters
prevention
officers,
training
officers
that
provide
the
service
that
protect
our
public
at
large
and
with
the
work
of
Gerry
and
Peter,
we've
been
able
to
maintain,
sustain
an
open
door
and
open
labor
relations
in
good
times
and
bad.
We
both
had
our
struggles,
but
we've
both
remained
committed
through
the
leaders
to
ensure
that
the
vested
interest
of
the
of
the
members,
and
not
in
spite
of
the
public
but
for
the
public
and
ensuring
public
service.
I
I
Speaking
of
such
terms
as
an
effective
fire
response
and
so
forth
that
effective
fire
response
certainly
applies
in
the
large.
It's
not
just
for
technical
rescue
and
fire,
but
working
with
our
valuable
partners
are
professionals
in
police
and
paramedics
in
that
effective
response
for
the
public,
in
all
forms
of
emergencies
being
the
medical
emergencies.
I
The
rescues
I
mentioned
the
hazardous
material
responses,
so
we've
been
very
fortunate
to
have
an
open
door
and
wonderful
relations
both
with
you,
counselors,
but
also
with
chief
chief
pinja
Tory,
that
as
well
chief
Ayotte
both
have
worked
extremely
hard
to
ensure
that
there
are
their
fire
leadership.
Team
are
prepared
and
understand.
There
are
the
goals
that
they
must
perform
and
work
and
communicate
with
Ottawa's,
firefighters
and
President.
Kennedy
has
certainly
done
the
same
with
his
executive
board
and
I.
I
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
the
chief
and
his
team
for
the
report
before
us
and
the
service
of
the
women
and
men
who
served
the
people
of
Ottawa
in
the
service.
Thank
you
for
the
report.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
from
what
I've
read.
I'll
start
with
the
data
table
on
the
report.
You
have
the
detail.
The
types
of
calls
and
you've
touched
upon
some
of
the
data
in
here
false
alarms.
That
number
is
troubling
over
9000
false
alarms
a
year
25
a
day.
F
On
average,
you
crunch
the
numbers
25
false
alarms
a
day.
On
average,
you
talked
about
a
reach,
improving
the
education
campaign.
What
are
the
criminal
aspects
regarding
locations
where
there's
chronic
false
alarms?
What
are
the
penalties
for
someone
who's
caught
conducting
this?
If
you
have
to
evacuate,
you
said
an
och
building,
a
school
I'm
just
concerned
that
public
outreach
isn't
good
enough.
So
what
are
some
other
options
that
are
being
considered.
J
Thank
You
councillor,
madam
chair.
You
know
it
is
a
criminal
code
offense,
so
there
is
stiff
penalties
through
the
Criminal
Code
I,
don't
have
exactly
what
those
penalties
are,
but
I
believe
they
do
include
up
to
including
incarceration,
but
we
also
see
that
a
lot
of
our
false
alarms
are
based
on
equipment
malfunction
and
those
are
the
stakeholders
that
we're
really
looking
to
reach
out
to
nobody
wants
false
alarms.
The
fire
service
certainly
doesn't
want
false
alarms.
The
businesses
do
not
want
false
alarms.
The
alarm
companies
do
not
want
false
alarms.
J
What
we
need
to
do
is
engage
them
in
the
discussion
and
come
up
with
a
strategy
to
reduce
false
alarms.
Our
methods
have
not
worked
to
date
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
taking
this
very
seriously
and
of
engaging
those
stakeholders
to
come
up
with
a
solution
up
to
and
including
you
know,
laws
if
necessary
to
to
change
things.
Thank.
F
You
and
just
to
put
into
perspective
number
of
false
alarms
is
about
10
times
higher
than
actual
fires
that
you're
responding
to
and
twice
as
high
as
the
second
highest
call,
which
is
medical.
So
you
know
I
still
think
there
is
an
onus
on
all
building
owners
to
ensure
that
their
equipment
works,
and
it's
it's
unrealistic
to
think
that
we
can
eliminate
all
files,
false
alarms,
but
I'm
just
worried
about
resources
that
are
being
deployed
unnecessarily
when
that
could
be
putting
people
at
risk.
F
When
there's
a
real
emergency
going
on
medical
calls
up
27%
over
two
years,
are
we
doing
any
type
of
analysis
on
delayed
response
times
when
you
are
deploying
resources
for
false
alarms
or
for
medical
calls,
and
then
we
get
an
actual
fire
call.
Or
do
you
have
that
capacity
within
the
OFS
to
do
that
type
of
research.
G
Through
you,
madam
chair,
during
our
accreditation,
those
are
things
we
look
at.
We
call
it
resiliency
and
we
continuously
check
to
see
how
we're
doing
with
our
response
times
for
fires
and
whether
or
not
we're
within
the
benchmark
and
baseline,
and
we
continue
to
be
that,
so
it's
not
negatively
affecting
us.
If
that's
what
the
question
is
and
again
the
increase
is
you
know
it
is
there's
an
increase
in
calls
across
the
city,
so
that
only
means
that
our
assistance
to
the
paramedic
service
would
also
increase.
We
haven't
changed
the
tiered
response
agreement.
F
Statistically
I
would
conclude:
there
would
be
an
impact
to
response
times
if
you
have
25
false
alarms
a
day,
obviously
they're,
not
all.
At
the
same
time,
it's
spread
out
some
days.
You've
got
more
some
days,
you
have
less,
but
eventually
because
your
sample
is
so
large
9,000,
you
are
going
to
have
real
emergencies
that
are
being
impacted
by
your
response
time.
Data
seems
reasonable.
You've
mentioned
your
call.
Volume
I
won't
get
into
that.
Just
note.
It's
ten
percent
increase
over
the
last
four
years,
which
I
think
is
significant
enough.
F
G
F
Not
sure
how
much
you
can
talk
about
investigative
work,
there
has
been,
in
my
opinion,
a
number
of
fires
in
my
ward
that
are
unexplained
I,
think
the
determination
is
unknown
or
unexplained.
I'll
just
come
out
and
say
highly
suspicious
when
you
look
at
homes
that
are
on
the
market
that
aren't
selling.
F
J
Madam
chair,
the
initial
investigation
takes
place
through
the
fire
service.
So
we
we
are.
We
have
our
own
investigators
who
go
in
and
determine
cause
and
I'll
get
into
determining
cause
in
a
second
anything,
reaching
a
certain
threshold.
We
then
called
in
the
fire
marshal's
office,
and
they
come
in
to
assist
so
some
of
the
fires
will
have
our
investigators
do
the
incomplete
investigation,
while
others
require
the
the
notification
for
fire
marshal's
office.
We
also
engage
our
police
partners
when
we
have
suspicious
activity,
and
so
obviously
we
are
team
when
it
comes
to
that
approach.
J
What
you're,
referring
to
earlier
or
known
as
undetermined
fires,
and
just
because
they
are
classified
as
undetermined,
does
not
make
them
not
suspicious
in
determining
cause.
It's
a
process
of
elimination,
it's
a
process
of
deductive
reasoning
and,
quite
frankly,
you
you
have
to
eliminate
other
causes,
and
everyone
said
well
because
of
damage
and
other
activities.
You
can't
eliminate
another
accidental
cause,
so
the
suspicious
can
be
highly
suspicious
or
a
fire
can
be
highly
suspicious
but
be
classified
as
undetermined,
because
in
the
in
the
criminal
realm
you
have
to
prove
it
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt.
J
Not
just
on
a
balance
of
probabilities,
so
if
we
can't
meet
that
standard,
then
the
fire
has
to
go
down
as
undetermined.
That
does
not
mean
that
there
isn't
background
information
or
background
investigations
that
continue
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
suspicious
circumstances
and
to
identify
additional
evidence
that
will
sway
the
the
balance
of
balance.
Probability.
F
F
Finally,
I
just
like
to
say
to
two
big
shadows:
one
is
certainly
can't
fit.
I've
attended
the
summer
sessions
every
summer
since
I've
been
elected
as
well
as
the
graduation
ceremonies.
I
can't
speak
highly
enough
of
this
program,
for
so
many
reasons
and
and
I'm
appreciative
of
the
Chiefs
and
the
services
support
for
this
program,
and
the
other
comment
I
want
to
make
is
about
how
much
I
appreciate
communications
from
the
Ottawa
fire
service
again.
F
I,
miss
Cardinals
efforts
and
she's
got
a
support
team
to
keep
members
of
council
informed
the
detail,
opportunities
to
to
liaise
with
my
office.
If
I
need
more
information,
it's
very
appreciated
times
in
other
departments,
it
may
be
more
challenging
to
get
information,
but
the
Ottawa
fire
service
has
always
been
very
open
and
willing
to
work
with
me
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
highlight
that
today.
Thank
you,
Thank.
K
G
It's
very
difficult
to
associate
costs
with
false
alarms,
because
it's
we
are
in
fact
already
there
we
were,
you
know
at
like
the
stations
are
staffed,
so
it's
fuel
basically
is
the
cost.
So
we
don't,
we
don't
necessarily
keep
track
of
that.
My
fear
might
of
my
my
greatest
cost
is:
is
the
danger
every
time
there
is
a
fire
service
apparatus
driving
through
the
streets
of
Ottawa
with
lights
and
sirens?
K
Thank
You
mr.
Vinci
Torre
for
that
response.
In
terms
of
coming
back
to
the
comments
that
councillor
Dean
was
making
earlier,
I
have
to
echo
those
comments
not
only
for
myself
but
for
my
community.
Mr.
pincher
Torre
you've
been
nothing
but
class
act
representing
the
auto
fire
service
throughout
the
public
and
throughout
your
us
men
and
women
in
your
service.
K
The
fact
that
you
know
the
programs
that
you've
instituted
and
have
been
brought
to
the
forefront
for
the
public
to
understand
what
kind
of
training
is
going
on
behind
the
scenes
and
how
you
recruit
other
new
members
to
the
team
and
that's
the
part
that
I
really
appreciate
that
you're
not
just
sitting
still
or
you
know,
the
department
is
not
sitting
still
you're,
always
recruiting
new
members
in
order
to
keep
the
fire
service
up
and
going
and
modern
as
much
as
possible
going
forward.
I
do
also
have
to
say
mr.
K
pinja,
Torre
or
chief
injury
is
the
fact
that
communication
from
your
department
has
been
excellent.
Not
only
counselors
offices
but,
like
I,
said
earlier
in
the
public
forum,
so
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service
and
before
you
leave,
I
will
have
another
question
for
you
at
the
end
of
my
comments
at
this
point,
I
also
would
like
to
thank
the
Ottawa
Fire
Service
and
its
women
and
men
for
the
service
that
they
provided
the
communities
it's
well
this
past
this
week.
K
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
the
fact
that
the
reaction
from
the
other
emergency
service
and
I
think
you
know,
chief
de
Monte,
with
the
protected
community
Protective
Services,
along
with
the
counselor
Dean's
and
the
rest
of
this
committee.
You
could
should
be
proud
as
to
how
well
the
EMS
teams
work
together,
at
least
in
this
particulars,
I'm
sure
it's
always
on
the
go
same
thing
in
every
situation.
K
So
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
that
response
to
the
communities
that's
well
known
in
the
community
social,
but
to
the
City
of
Ottawa,
with
your
service
and
your
dedicated
service
and
for
mr.
pinja
Torrey.
Just
one
more
question:
Jerry
is
in
all
of
911
as
a
dear
grunt
to
your
heart
and
to
the
communities.
That's
row,
just
wondering.
When
are
we
going
to
find
out
the
chili
recipe
that
you
have
a
winning
recipe
for
before
you
leave
or
just
after
you
leave
the.
E
Think
you
very
much
sure
I
thank
you
to
the
chief
and
to
his
staff
for
the
report
and
for
your
decades
of
service
to
the
city.
With
regard
to
the
report,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
good
news
in
it.
It's
rare
that
a
decrease
in
something
as
good
news
but
I,
think
a
decrease
in
fires
is
absolutely
wonderful
news,
so
and
I.
E
Imagine
that
the
prevention
work
that
you've
done
has
a
good
has
a
great
deal
to
do
with
that.
So
keep
up
the
good
work.
I
didn't
want
to
follow
up
on
councilor,
Washington's
line
of
question
and
comment
on
the
false
alarm
number,
because
that
of
course,
is
a
number
that's
gone
up,
and
it
was
interesting
in
reading
the
report
and
doing
a
bit
of
research
on
this
item.
A
couple
of
things
came
up.
E
One
of
them
was
there
was
a
news
item
from
2012,
where
this
committee,
in
whatever
its
form,
was
then
was
having
a
similar
chat
and
the
chief
at
that
time
acknowledged
the
problem
for
what
it's
worth
and
I.
Don't
know
if
these
numbers
are
out
of
date
now,
but
he
assigned
to
counselor
cadres
question
monetary
cost,
two
million
dollars
a
year.
E
The
purpose
is
really
to
provide
a
reason
for
people
to
fix
their
automatic
alarm
systems
which
from
100
and
is
the
real
generator
of
these
high
high
numbers
and
again
from
the
research
that
I
can
tell.
These
have
been
demonstrated
to
be
pretty
effective
tools,
so
Toronto
Kingston,
London,
Brampton
others.
So
I
guess
here
we
are
seven
years
later.
E
E
As
you
say,
the
safety
of
Ottawa
residents
to
avoid
lights
and
sirens
so
I,
don't
know.
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
hear
a
comment
on
that,
but
I
wonder
if
we
as
a
form
of
staff,
Direction
can
say:
let's
go.
Why
don't
we
look
at
a
draft
bylaw
and
consider
that
as
soon
as
possible,
given
that
that
seems
to
be
a
very
effective
tool
to
try
and
get
to
the
reduction
of
these
false
alarms,
but
I'm
happy
to
stop
there
in
here,
because
the.
H
Chair
I'll,
let
the
professionals
talk
more
about
the
dynamics
and
and
I
know
the
councillors
aware.
We
did
have
that
that
debate.
That
is
a
tool
in
the
toolbox
that
the
team
is
looking
as
part
of
their
their
analysis
and
at
the
time
the
discussion
that
had
taken
place,
we
erred,
we
collectively
erred
not
to
move
to
a
bylaw
model,
the
councillors
right.
H
That
said
and
I
think
the
chief
has
in
his
in
his
comments,
recognizes
that
the
strategy
that
we
had
collectively
put
in
place
last
time
is
not
giving
the
results
we
want
and
I
think
counselor
knows.
Bomb
is
actually
right
on
it's
going
to
be
a
tool
in
our
toolkit
that
we
will,
when
we
come
back
in
the
next
term.
H
As
part
of
this
analysis,
look
at
and
again
when
one
when
the
team
looked
at
the
data,
it's
institutions
like
hospitals,
higher
education,
universities
and
colleges
Ottawa,
and
we
can
understand
the
complexity
of
those
big
institutions,
technical
issues
with
the
systems,
in
some
cases,
malicious
use
of
the
alarms
and
in
other
cases
just
you
know
the
big
institution
alarms
going
off
because
we're
testing
we
forgot
the
call
so
I
think
that'll
be
one
of
the
tools
that
will
probably
be
coming
back
with
and
yeah.
When
we
hindsight
saw
was
100%.
H
When
we
look
back,
we
had
made
a
decision
at
the
time
that
perhaps
defer
that
and
we've
tried
another
strategy.
Now
we
analyze
and
it's
going
a
long
way
so
I
think
the
counselors
run
on
it'll,
be
something
that
we're
looking
at
and
I'll
just
let
the
chief
venture
Tory
talk
about
that
that
nuance
and
that
balance
at
the
the
professionals
are
always
trying
to.
You
know,
balance
between.
Just
you
know:
disincentive
of
a
bylaw.
G
K
G
When
we
talk
about
approaching
the
stakeholders
it
we
have
to
Zone
in
on
what
the
key
problem
is,
for
instance,
sometimes
that
the
problem
is
they're,
doing
alarm,
testing
and
don't
notify
us.
Those
are
our
simple
ones.
You
would
think
to
be
able
to
be
fixed
other
times,
though.
It's
not
that
easy,
because
how
often
how
long
do
you
give
them
to
fix
the
let's
say,
the
heat,
detector
and
stale
and
the
stairwell
to
be
changed
over?
They
can't
change
it
over
immediately,
but
you
know
you
leave
the
building
vulnerable
by
turning
off
the
alarms.
G
No,
we
can't
do
that.
So
we
know
that
we
may
be
back
there
one
or
two
times
before
that
the
that
device
is
changed.
So
it's
a
very
complex
one
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
anything
more
to
add
than
general
manager
davontea,
because
that's
exactly
our
thoughts,
so
I'm
not
sure.
If
that
answers,
your
question
counselor.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
answer.
I
guess
what
I'm
wondering
is-
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
mr.
de
Monte
I-
appreciate
that
it's
unlikely
that
we're
going
to
get
a
bylaw
passed
in
this
term
of
council,
but
it
would
it
be
worth
having
your
staff
or
the
chief
staff
look
a
little
at
this.
Maybe
do
just
a
report
or
a
basic
examination
again.
My
cursory
research
was
these
are
pretty
efficacious
these
bylaws.
H
To
anyone
perhaps
a
way
the
counselors
worry,
it
is
part
of
the
analysis.
They're
doing
so.
Definitely
maybe
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
it.
We're
going
to
do
a
draft
bylaw
ready
with
a
bottle
of
team
to
help
chief
pincher
Tony
and
his
teams
work
with
those
institutions
we're
going
to
have
that
and
no
you're
not
off
base.
So
when
we
look
to
Montreal
attic,
which
is
a
bigger
community
than
we
are
had
more
false
alarms,
they
currently
have
less
false
alarms
than
us
supposed
to
bylaw
implicit
implementation.
H
Now,
they're,
not
analyzing,
what's
happening
with
regards
to
is
that
creating
more
fires
or
more
risk
that
we
don't
know,
but
I
can
assure
you
that
as
part
of
the
work,
the
bylaw
work
is
going
to
be
there.
We
really
don't
need
direction
or,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
want
to
do
the
rest,
it's
part
of
our
work
plan.
Councillor.
A
A
E
H
The
work
will
have
been
done
that
we're
doing
it
as
currently
as
we
speak
at
the
end
of
the
day,
just
because
of
the
bylaw
work
plan
that
we
have.
We
couldn't
even
get
it
in
here
in
time
until
Council
can't
make
those
policy
decisions,
but
I
understand
where
the
councilors
goal
and
he
doesn't
want
it.
We
come
back
and
report
back
and
then
there's
a
delay,
so
we'll
have
something
with
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
that'll
be
an
offer.
H
L
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Through
you,
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
One
of
them,
one
of
them
to
the
chief
enjoy
I,
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
automatic
vehicle
routing
recommendation.
Can
you
give
me
a
little
bit
a
little
more
detail
on
how
this
is
going
to
impact
the
rural
area
up
another
spawn
time
and
how
you're
planning
on
doing
that?
It's
a
kinetic
impact
or
not,
or
that's
something
in
my
interest.
G
Well
that
could
change,
for
instance,
on
nights
that
they're
at
training
or
or
on
times
when
they're,
actually
returning
from
another
incident,
this
will
actually
change
the
the
areas
of
where
everybody
responds
will
be
dynamic.
It
will
change
all
the
time.
Therefore,
it
will
always
send
the
closest
vehicle
and,
of
course,
depending
on
the
type
of
incident
we're
sending
more
than
one
vehicle
anyways
right,
so
yeah.
No,
we
see
no
different.
G
L
Thank
you.
This
is
what
I
was
just
wondering
and
thank
you
very
much
chief
and
on
the
same
slide
we
talked
about
the
open
fire
permit
online.
Madam
chair
I,
just
my
question
or
my
kind
of
comment
to
the
chief,
the
Monty,
maybe
I
know
this.
Is
it's
been
a
year
that
no
work
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
work
happened
behind
it.
I
watch
it
very
closely.
L
I've
been
my
community's
been
dying
to
have
it
specifically
in
the
rural
area,
because,
as
you
know,
the
client-server
Center
only
opened
one
day
and
they
don't
have
access.
Sometimes
they
want
to
burn,
have
a
some
fire
or
something
on
a
weekend
and
it's
not
convenient.
So
it's
been
very,
very
good
news,
but
I
still
see
when
people
going
right
now
to
the
client
service
and
it's
closed,
no
one
notifying
them
the
client
services
themselves,
they're,
not
aware
of
the
new
online
services.
L
So
maybe
internally
you
could
work
with
three
one
one
or
with
our
client
services
to
educate
them
on
that,
because,
interestingly
enough,
it's
so
sophisticated
to
get
the
work
happen
behind
it
and
I
know
from
I
myself.
I
tried
it
a
couple
times
because
in
rural
area
it's
not
only,
you
have
an
open
fire.
Also,
you
have
an
agricultural
fire
permit
behind
it,
and
it's
so
the
system
is
so
smart
and
recognize
it
right
from
your
address,
so
I
just
find
it
it's
very
we
put
so
much
money.
We
spend
a
lot
of
resources.
L
The
Ottawa
firefighter
and
the
IT
department
work
so
hard
on
this
and
to
see
it
a
little
bit.
We're
not
educated
enough
or
we're
not
really
going
right
out
the
gate
to
it's
a
good
news
story.
So
maybe
something
you
could
do
on
your
on
your
level
talking
to
different
Department
to
promote
that
absolutely.
H
L
You
this
I
just
want
to
comment.
This
is
not
a
question
anymore.
I
just
want
to
echo
what
the
chair
and
counselor
Qadri
talked
about.
Chief
Benja,
Tory
and
I
know
it's
probably
your
last
present
presentation
to
our
committee,
but
on
a
personal
level,
I
am
very,
very
happy.
I
have
mixed
feelings.
First,
I'm
happy
to
see
that
you're
tiring
you
an
enjoying
time
with
your
wife
Linda
and
having
whatever
you
want
to
do
in
your
future,
but
also
I,
know
the
leadership
that
you
provided
in
the
auto
fire
fire
is
H
solid.
L
Like
councilor
Kadri
said
it's
a
world
class
act
that
you
demonstrate
in
this
scope
in
this
city
and
I
know.
If
you
look
at
the
map
in
your
first
presentation,
we
do
have
urban
and
we
do
have
volunteer
firefighter
and
your
seamless,
hard-working
through
the
organization.
It's
not
going
to
go
unrecognized
throughout
my
term
of
counsel,
where
I
work
with
your
office
and
you
are
never
hesitant
and
or
championing
any
program.
L
The
volunteer
firefighter
and
our
community
are
a
class
act
and
education
community
barbecues
being
out
for
safety,
and
if
any
time
you
call
them
for
anything
in
the
community,
they're
first
people
to
be
there
and
why
I'm
saying
that,
under
your
leadership,
I
know
I
I
work
closely
with
chief
Adrienne
and
your
deputy
chief
Paul
Hart
and
chief
Kim
I
odd.
But
this
is
these.
Culture
will
not
happen
without
the
leadership,
because
the
the
other
firefighter
has
that
culture
and
it
comes
from
the
leadership
and
it
translate
to
the
community
for
that.
I
want
to.
L
F
So
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
work.
His
leadership
in
the
force
I
had
a
couple
quick
questions.
One
of
them
that
you
mentioned
was
with
regards
to
mental
health,
and
you
said
that
we
used
to
take
care
of
our
equipment
more
than
we
do.
Our
personnel
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
in
terms
of
those
numbers
and
the
peer
support
groups
that
you
mentioned.
It
seems
like
a
fairly
high
number
and
is
that
because
there's
more
openness
about
talking
about
these
issues
or
I
mean?
G
Through
your
chair,
absolutely
counselor,
that's
one
of
the
culture
shifts
that
we
have
recognized
is
the
stigma
attached
to
you
know
just
maybe
coming
across
as
too
soft
or
or
not
macho
enough
to
deal
with
our
day-to-day
encounters,
and
but
it
took
a
lot
to
get
to
that
stage.
There
was
a
lot
of
training,
for
instance,
on
mental
health,
first
aid
that
not
only
taught
us
how
to
deal
with
mental
health
out
in
out
on
the
street,
but
amongst
each
other
as
well
and
looking
after
each
other
and
having
each
other's
back
so
to
speak.
G
So
we
have
seen
a
change
and
we
still
have
a
lot
of
growth.
There.
There's
I'm
not
going
to
be
naive
to
think
that
everybody's
hugging
each
other.
You
know
there
are
still
some
some
issues
that
will
happen
in
that
family,
but
certainly
we're
very,
very
happy
with
the
progress.
Is
that
number
kind
of
show
me
that
it's
working.
D
G
Is
that
number
should
make
the
next
chief
worried
right,
because
how
many
people
are
struggling
so
we'll
keep
a
close
watch
on
that,
but
certainly
the
peer
to
peer
support
seems
to
be
the
best
avenue
of,
as
highlighted
just
recently,
with
the
the
accent
we
have
or
the
earlier
this
week
that
peer
group
came
in
right
away
and
we'll
follow
up
with
certain
individuals.
And
you
know
there
are
all
kinds
of
aspects
and
areas
and
routes
that
they
can
take,
but
the
peer
to
peer
seems
to
be
working
the
best
for
us.
Okay,.
F
Last
year
after
council
I
think
there
was
Peter.
Mcbride
was
showcasing
some
of
the
technologies
and
the
different
things
that
they
were
doing
in
terms
of
research
and
tackling
different
fires,
and
that
sort
of
thing
are
there
any
updates,
I'm,
not
sure
he
touched
on
that
I.
Don't
think
you
did
at
your
presentation,
but
are
there
any
updates
in
terms
of
some
of
that
research
that
was
being
conducted
last
year
or
new
technologies
about
how
to
tackle
fires
and
and
that
front.
G
For
all
intents
and
purposes,
the
curriculum
is
near
completion.
It's
going
to
be
posted
on
a
website
somewhere.
Some
wait
for
the
country
to
access.
Certainly,
we've
had
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
on
our
approach
and
the
good
news
with
our
Moody
Drive
training
center.
Everybody
is
going
through
that
training
and
then
probably
take
us
another
year
to
complete,
but
it's
amazing
I
hear
it
I
hear
the
change
happening
on
the
fire
scene.
G
Listening
to
the
way
we
are
tactics,
so
I
know
firsthand
that
it's
made
a
difference,
and
certainly
again
you
know
when
I
say
we're
looking
after
our
people
better
than
the
equipment.
Well,
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
getting
better
equipment
as
well
right
so
that
they
could
do
their
job
better.
Everything
from
thermal-imaging
cameras
to,
but
the
most
important
thing
that
they're
learning
from
that
fire
dynamics
is
how
to
in
the
science
behind
fire.
So
it's
not
just
put
wet
stuff
on
the
red
stuff
right.
They
really
understand.
F
My
final
question
was
regards
to
the
the
growth
in
the
city
on
the
development.
You
talked
about,
I
think
the
two
news
stations
and
they
stand
and
I
think
we
did
shut
down
one.
You
didn't
represent
their
presentation,
but
there
was
obviously
a
bit
of
a
overview
about
the
facilities
we
have
across
the
city.
F
I
know
we'll
be
doing
similar
exercise
in
different
parts
of
the
city,
including
Parks
and
Rec,
to
look
at
the
big
picture,
post
amalgamation
and
we
had
recently
in
recent
years
the
new
one
in
Barre,
even
new
one
in
Riverside,
so
I'm
just
curious.
What
do
the?
What
do
the
future
planning
and
growth
in
terms
of
that
for
rapidly
growing
communities?
Like
my
area,
Riverside,
South,
feeling,
Creek
bar
even
I,
know
you
have
an
older
one
in
Leitrim.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
what
those
future
development
plans
are
for
stations
down
the
road.
G
When
putting
together
the
station
location
study,
we
looked
at,
we
know
where
the
urban
boundaries
are
in
future
growth.
We've
taken
all
that
into
consideration.
So
if
that
doesn't
change,
we
know
that
through
that
study,
that
the
next
area
of
growth
is
kanata
north,
and
so
we
have
a
plan
somewhere
in
the
future,
as
that
growth
continues
to
happen
to
take
care
of
that,
and
so
that
was
a
study
that
we
we
said
was
good
for
the
next
ten
years.
G
So
as
that
approaches
and
depending
on
the
growth
of
the
city
and
the
boundaries
we'll
have
to
reassess,
but
right
now,
that's
the
only
place
that
we
anticipate
a
requirement
to
build
an
additional
station.
However,
it
won't
be
an
additional
one.
It'll
be
a
matter
of
repositioning
the
Riddell
station
repositioning
the
Rydell
station
decision
existing
one
in
Kanata.
It
wouldn't
necessarily
work
from
that
area
for
the
new
growth
and
size
as
well.
We
have
aughh
meant
the
personnel
we
have
some
there.
F
How
quickly
do
you
have
to
move
in
because
I
know,
for
example,
we
just
refresh
the
CDP
and
Riverside
south
and
there's
parcels
there
for
institutional
which
could
be
for
a
fire
station?
How
quickly
do
you
have
to
decide
whether
or
not
you
need
that
parcel
I
assume
a
community,
for
example,
like
Riverside
itself
is
going
to
be
a
you
know:
minibar
Haven,
if
you
will
or
I
assume
there'll,
be
a
need
for
station.
So
when
do
you
purchase
that
land
or
when
do
you
decide
that
this
is
something
that
you
need
for
future
planning?
F
J
Sure
how
to
follow
up
on
that,
but
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
chief
editorial.
The
last
number
of
years
has
been
a
couple
of
challenging
fires
in
my
ward,
and
your
people
have
responded
so
well
so
professionally
so
responsibly
and
as
council
drew
said
that
that
comes
from
on
top,
that
comes
from
the
leadership
and
it
trickles
down
so
and
I
I
think
it
speaks
volumes.
J
My
previous
life
I
used
to
do
a
lot
of
Labor,
Relations
I
think
it
speaks
volumes
if
the
that
the
the
employees
representative
comes
out
this
morning
and
thanks
the
management
for
what
a
great
job
they've
done.
So
you
you
are
going
to
be
missed,
but
I
also
feel
quite
confident
that
in
the
transition
period,
that
chief
Ayotte
is
going
to
take
good
care
of
us,
you
know
from
working
with
him.
I
feel
that
we're
in
good
good
hands
as
we
need
to
be
during
that
critical
transition
period.
J
So
congratulations
to
both
you
on
the
on
the
different
ways.
Yours
are
going
to
be
going
over
the
next
little.
While
a
quick
follow-up
on
on
councillor
Nussbaum
I
understand,
we
don't
have
to
give
direction.
Mr.
Dumont,
Ian
and
I
appreciate
that.
But
this
is
the
suggestion.
This
is
up,
I
guess
as
opposed
to
a
direction,
but
in
what's
coming
forward.
J
You
talked
about
the
Montreal
model,
for
example,
which
is
now
showing
less
false
alarms,
and
we
are
I
think
it's
important
in
your
analysis,
if
at
all
possible
to
have
some
explanation
as
to
whether
or
not
that
seems
to
be
because
of
the
bylaw
or
the
unintended
consequences
that
people
are
disabling
or
removing
their
fire
systems,
because
that
may
not
be
something
that
you
see
right
away.
Oh,
it's
gone
we're
having
a
fire,
but
something
you
might
see
down
the
road,
so
I
think
that's
that's
important
information.
J
H
Absolutely-
and
that
was
kind
of
perhaps
we
didn't
describe
as
much
that's
the
part
that
is
for
me,
worried
someone
I
hear
the
professional
saying:
where
is
that
balance?
And
is
that
unintended
consequence?
Because
then
that
can
have
a
life
safety
issue,
so
it
will
be
absolutely
part
of
the
analysis
we're
going
to
do.
Okay,.
J
I
really
appreciate
that,
because
again
going
to
have
a
proper
discussion
around
it,
I
think
we
need
to
see
both
sides
of
the
coin.
My
other
question
was
around
the
increase
in
medical
calls
and
I
see
that
year-over-year
we're
seeing
that
in
the
in
the
table.
You
provide
it
to
us,
and
you
also
made
the
comment
during
your
presentation.
She
pinja
Tory
that
were
one
of
the
first
services
to
roll
out
with
our
members,
training
and
use
of
no
oxen
is.
J
G
Through
the
chair
up
the
again,
we
have
no
change
the
tiered
response
agreement
and
we
respond
to
all
VSA
or
unconscious.
So
then
the
LOC
zone
would
be
an
unconscious.
It's
not
an
additional
on
top
of
its
as
a
result
of
us
going
to
those
types
of
incidents
and
as
a
direct
correlation
to
the
fact
that
call
volume
for
the
paramedics
are
gone,
have
gone
up
as
well.
So
it
only
makes
sense
that
you
know
there
are
more
VSA
than
there
are
more
unconscious
people
as
the
population,
growth
and
so
yeah.
H
H
Reason,
yeah
you're
a
bit
of
a
disadvantage.
The
annual
report
for
the
paramedic
service
is
coming
later,
so
you'll
see
it's
a
director.
As
the
chief
explained,
it's
a
direct
correlation.
Their
call
has
gone
up,
so
the
corresponding
call
volumes
going
up
there
for
the
same
categories
of
call,
the
third
tier
down
so.
J
I
guess
where
I
was
going
with
this,
though,
is
if,
if
you
know
what's
causing
the
increase
in
the
medical
calls,
or
you
know
what
the
problem
is
its
heart
attacks,
it's
it's
slip
and
falls
whatever.
It
is.
I
guess
what
I'm
going
with
this
is.
Is
there
a
need,
as
we
move
into
our
2019
budget
discussions,
the
fall
is:
is
there
need
for
a
different
pocket
of
funding
or
a
different
type
of
funding
so
that
your
members
are
able
to
respond
or
whatever
is
causing
the
increase
in
the
medical
calls?
J
H
May
again,
so
as
part
of
the
true
response
agreement,
we've
talked
to
fire
and
police
our
tiered
on
certain
categories
of
calls,
because
they
can
provide
certain
skills
that
we've
given
the
defibrillators.
Now
we
added
a
new
tool
both
in
police
and
fire.
The
naloxone
as
the
opioid
epidemic
has
started
form
across
the
country.
Unfortunately,
we're
not
seeing
it
significant
here
yet
and
I
hope
we
never
do
so.
There's
no
there's
no
really
impact
other
than
as
the
broader
community
grows
and
the
call
line
grows.
H
Those
categories
of
calls
are
growing
proportionately,
so
there's
no
direct
correlation
there,
something
that
we
can
intervene
and
they
currently
have
all
the
skills
they
need
for
those
categories
of
calls.
If
we
all
expand
that
that's
a
different
discussion,
but
currently
they
have
all
the
tools
they're
responding
effectively
and,
as
we
said,
we've
given
them
another
tool
in
our
toolkit
naloxone,
because
opioid
overdoses
come
in
in
in
simple
terms
as
unconscious
patients
and
their
tier
two,
though
so,
if
they're,
that
you've
got
this
new
tool
as
well.