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Description
Environment and Climate Change Committee - February 21, 2023
B
C
Oh
there
we
go
okay,
so
it's
9,
30.,
so
I
think
we'll
get
started.
Try
to
be
on
time
for
our
first
meeting
of
the
environment
and
climate
change.
Committee
just
wanted
to
start
off
with
some
opening
remarks.
It's
going
to
be
a
busy
term
for
us,
so
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
the
members
of
the
committee
and
we've
got
a
lot
on
the
forward
agenda
here.
C
If
you've
received
a
briefing
On,
Solid,
Waste
master
plan
or
the
resiliency
plan,
or
climate
change
master
plan
or
around
trees,
all
those
files
are
with
us
and,
of
course,
infrastructure
water
services.
So
we've
got
a
very,
very
busy
term.
This
term
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
members
I
also
want
to
recognize
we're
on
unseated
unsurrendered
Algonquin
territory.
As
we
hold
this
meeting
in
City
Hall
in
Chambers
or
in
the
Champlain
room,
I
I
will
start
just
by
mentioning
councilor.
F
C
D
A
D
C
C
One
of
the
joint
standing
committee
on
Environmental
Protection
water
and
waste
management
and
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
meeting
of
Monday
27th
of
June
2022
carried.
Thank
you
for
that.
The
environment
and
climate
change
committee
terms
of
reference
are
on
the
agenda
here.
There's
been
no
speakers
that
have
registered.
There
is
no
correspondence
any
discussion
on
this
item.
Anyone
want
to
raise
any
issues.
F
No
I
don't
have
any
problems
with
the
terms
of
of
reference,
but
I
wondered
if
there's
anything
in
the
cards
for
having
joint
meetings.
Since
we
don't
want
to
work
in
silos,
possibly
with
Transportation
I.
Don't
know.
I
haven't
mentioned
this
to
the
chair
of
Transportation,
but
just
throwing
that
out.
It
just
strikes
me
that
we're
and
a
committee
that
affects
everything,
but
transportation
is
probably
the
biggest
subject.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
great
Point.
There
are
some
overlapping
issues
here,
certainly
with
transportation.
We
were
actually
just
talking
with
clerk's
office
about
the
high
performance
development
standard
as
well,
and
there's
some
overlap
there
between
our
committee
and
planning
and
housing.
So
I
think
how
we'll
deal
with
it
is
is,
as
those
items
come
up,
we'll
either
work
with
the
the
other
chairs
or
the
other
committees,
Council
attorney
on
Transportation
or
councilor
leaper
on
planning
and
housing,
and
have
either
joint
meetings.
C
Where
there's
an
item
that
overlaps
with
the
two
or
those
chairs
will
collectively
decide
which
committee
those
items
might
belong
at
so
did
talk
to
the
the
clerk's
office
about
this
and
it's
a
good
point.
We
do
overlap
with
a
number
of
other
committees,
so
certainly
in
the
on
our
agenda
and
on
our
radar
appreciate
that
that
intervention
counselor
Kavanaugh,
thank
you
so
with
yeah
with
that.
Is
this
item
carried?
C
C
We've
got
the
annual
drinking
water
source
protection
status,
update
on
our
agenda
today,
and
so
the
discussion
with
staff
is
that
they'll
be
coming
back
to
Committee
in
April
with
the
summary
report
and
so
you're
you're,
going
to
get
a
information
on
a
short
report
and
presentation
in
April
on
the
quality
of
drinking
water
sources
in
Ottawa
and
the
quality
of
the
tap
water.
So
just
a
good
presentation,
I
think
to
start
off
the
the
term
and
for
counselors
that
haven't
seen
this.
C
C
J
Thank
you
chair
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee,
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
met
me
yet.
My
name
is
Tammy
Rose
and
I'm.
The
general
manager
of
infrastructure
and
Water
Services
Department
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
with
you
today,
as
we
present
the
draft
2023
budget.
J
Now
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
few
of
my
fellow
presenters
and
colleagues
that
are
here
with
us.
Today
we
have
Cyril
Rogers,
the
interim
Chief
Financial,
Officer
and
general
manager
of
finance
and
Corporate
Services.
We
have
Ellison
Downs
the
director
of
parks,
maintenance
and
Forestry
Shelley
McDonald,
the
director
of
Solid
Waste,
Services,
Maryland,
journow
speaking
on
behalf
of
water
Wastewater
and
storm
water
operations,
Sue
John's,
the
director
of
asset
management
and
David
Wise,
the
director
of
Economic,
Development
and
long-range
planning,
also
available
to
answer.
J
Questions
today
is
Karina
du
close,
the
director
of
infrastructure
services
and
the
capital
project,
implementation
and
Jen
Nielsen,
the
director
of
water
treatment
and
Facilities.
We
also
have
many
staff
here
today
from
forestry
services,
Solid
Waste
Services,
the
climate
change
and
resiliency
team
and
the
natural
systems
team.
To
answer
any
and
all
of
your
questions
next
slide,
please.
L
J
J
Included
in
the
draft
tax,
supported
budget
and
reporting
to
this
committee
are
the
following
areas:
from
infrastructure
and
Water:
Services
Department,
the
office
of
the
general
manager
and
business
and
Technical
Support,
Services
infrastructure
services
and
Asset
Management
Services
from
the
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development
department,
the
resiliency
and
natural
systems
policy,
climate
change
and
resiliency
team
and
from
Public
Works
Solid,
Waste,
Services
and
forestry
services.
I'll
now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
Cyril
foreign.
G
G
The
overall
2023
draft
net
requirement
for
the
tax
supported
environment
and
climate
change
committee
is
66.3
million,
and
this
reflects
an
increase
of
6.3
million
over
the
2022
budget.
The
GM
office,
btss
infrastructure
and
Asset
Management
Services
is
increasing
by
225k.
This
is
mainly
Associated
to
cost
of
living,
increments
and
benefits,
and
there
is
some
offsets
in
terms
of
recoveries
from
capital.
G
The
resiliency
and
natural
systems
policy
budget
is
increasing
by
280k
again.
This
is
mainly
attributed
to
cost
of
living
and
benefit
increases,
and
there
is
some
one-time
funding
in
this
budget
for
the
distributed
energy
resource
framework
and
increase
in
community
environment
projects
and
funding
for
a
wildlife
fire
risk
mapping.
G
On
the
solid
waste
side,
the
budget
is
increasing
by
5
million
again.
This
is
due
to
cost
of
living
adjustments,
inflationary
pressures
and
increases
related
to
the
garbage,
Recycling
and
Organics
collection
contracts.
Forestry
services,
increases
of
655
000
is
related
to
cost
of
living
and
inflationary
pressures.
Next
slide,
please,
the
draft
2023
capital
budget
for
the
tax
component
of
this
committee
is
45.6
million.
36
million
is
allocated
to
the
solid
waste
program
for
landfill
disposal
stage.
Five
land
and
Trail
Road
expansion
and
long-term
planning
new
this
year
in
the
environment.
G
Section
is
a
five
million
dollar
investment
dedicated
for
climate
change.
In
addition
to
this
annual
in
increase
in
budget
for
2023,
we've
also
enhanced
the
reporting
for
climate
change
overall
in
All
City
budgets.
My
colleagues
will
speak
to
a
little
bit
later
in
the
presentation.
There's
also
three
million
dollars
allocated
to
the
energy
management
investment
strategy
for
2023.
G
M
L
G
Long-Range
financial
plan
five,
which
has
been
adopted
by
Council
the
overall
budget,
does
include
approximately
eight
million
dollars
and
increases
across
the
three
service
areas,
mainly
attributed
to
cost
of
living
increments
and
inflationary
pressures.
There's
an
overall
increase
of
9.6
million
dollars
to
support
the
capital
program.
This
program
is
a
very
Capital
intensive
program
from
from
a
rate,
support
perspective
in
the
assets.
G
In
addition,
next
slide,
please,
on
the
capital
side,
the
capital
Authority
is
for
2023
is
343
million.
This
includes
the
rate
funded
component
of
the
integrated
Road,
Water
and
Sewer
program.
Infrastructure
renewal
makes
up
approximately
91
of
the
total
2023
rates
supported
capital
budget.
The
budget
is
funded
from
Water
waste,
water,
storm
water
reserves,
development
charges,
new
debt
and
government
grants
in
2023.
The
annual
debt
repayments
for
water,
Wastewater
and
storm
water
services
is
around
11
of
the
city's
own
source
revenues
for
these
areas.
G
This
is
well
within
the
15
percent
debt
limit
established
by
Council
next
slide.
Please,
the
overall
program
is
243.5
million
is
funded,
funded
from
cash
reserves
or
71,
78.7
million
or
23
is
funded
from
debt
and
15.3
million
or
four
percent
is
funded
through
development
charges,
with
the
remaining
5.3
million
or
2
percent
funded
from
revenue
sources
such
as
the
medicinal
draining
program.
Next
slide.
Please.
O
Thank
you,
Cyril
highlights
of
the
operating
budgets
includes
an
adjustment
for
potential
2023
cost
of
living,
increases,
increments
and
benefits
and
adjustments.
The
budget
also
includes
an
increase
to
the
contribution
to
Capital
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
water.
Eight
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars
for
waste
water
and
8.45
million
for
storm
water,
javemen.
P
Three
budget
includes
342.8
million
dollars
of
capital
investment
to
renew
grow,
our
drinking
water,
Wastewater
and
storm
water
infrastructure
that
delivers
essential
service
to
our
residents,
businesses
and
visitors.
The
city's
drinking
water
infrastructure
continues
to
be
in
good
condition
for
the
last
five
years.
The
city
has
achieved
at
least
a
98
rating
from
the
ministry,
environment,
conservation
and
Parks.
P
P
The
city
is
responsible
for
maintaining
and
renewing
over
9270
kilometers
of
water
mains
and
sewers
to
water
purification
plants,
one
wastewater
treatment,
plant,
55,
remote
Wastewater,
pumping
stations,
16
remote
drinking
water,
pumping
stations,
14
storm
water,
pumping
stations,
six
communal
well
systems
and
over
6
300
culverts.
Next
slide.
Oh
no,
that's
the
same
slide
back.
Thank
you
previous
slide,
please.
Thank
you.
I'll
now
provide
a
summary
of
the
Investments
included
in
the
draft
capital
budget
that
are
funded
from
rate
in
the
drinking
water
services.
P
The
total
investment
exceeds
70
million
dollars,
there's
over
20
million
dollars
to
renew
the
two
water
purification
plants,
with
funding
to
build
a
new
intake
at
the
structure
at
the
Lemieux
Island
plant
and
to
replace
and
upgrade
equipment
at
both
plants.
Britannia
and
Lemieux,
there's
close
to
55
million
dollars
to
replace
and
repair
water
mains
to
ensure
a
continued
supply
of
quality
drinking
water.
P
The
integrated
Road,
Water
and
Wastewater
program
includes
over
110
million
dollars.
Investment
for
the
rate
funded
share
of
that
program
and
the
integrated,
Water
and
Wastewater
program
includes
19
million
dollars
to
renew
Water
and
Wastewater
infrastructure,
which
is
10
million
dollars
to
repair
rehabilitate
and
improve
sewers.
P
Next
slide,
please
in
storm
water
services,
the
total
investment
is
around
40
million
dollars.
This
includes
over
15
million
dollars
to
replace
and
repair
culverts
across
the
city
and
1.5
million
dollars
to
rehabilitate
storm
and
surface
water
infrastructure,
including
Creeks
rivers
and
Ravines,
to
stabilize
slopes
and
mitigate
flooding.
Q
Well,
thank
you
Susan.
Overall,
the
2023
budget
includes
more
than
52
million
dollars
in
new
Investments,
with
moderate
or
major
climate
change
contributions.
More
than
30
million
dollars
of
those
Investments
are
expected
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
beyond
the
energy
Evolution
business,
as
usual,
planned
scenario
on
22
million
dollars
of
Investments
are
expected
to
make
a
moderate
or
a
major
contribution
towards
building
climate
resiliency.
Q
Again.
This
is
the
very
first
year
that
a
climate
change
lens
has
ever
been
applied
to
new
capital
budget
requests
and
is
a
significant
step
towards
building
a
climate
change
accounting
framework
to
support
future
decisions.
As
we
move
forward,
future
budgets
will
propose
to
build
upon
this
exercise,
including
establishing
a
carbon
budget
as
we
go
forward.
Q
The
draft
budget
2023
also
includes
new
Investments,
which
are
being
supported
by
several
other
committees:
Beyond
DCC.
These
include
23.3
million
dollars
to
purchase
zero
emission
40-foot
buses.
That
is
part
of
the
bus
replacement
program
and
that
will
be
considered
by
transit,
Committee,
of
course,
the
three
million
dollars
for
energy
Management's
investment
strategy
that
will
be
looking
at
implementing
new
energy
conservation
measures
in
existing
City
facilities
to
upgrade
them
and
provide
more
efficiency
with
respect
to
those
facilities.
C
Happy
to
move
the
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
for
that
presentation.
So
I
think
what
we'll
do
is:
go
to
counselor
Carr
Vice,
chair
Carr,
to
read
in
the
two
roadmap
motions
for
the
operating
and
capital
budget
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
move
to
delegations
with
so
a
calendar
car
over
to
you.
S
So
we're
just
waiting
for
my
visual
presentation
to
come
up
there.
It
is
so
my
name
is
Angela
Keller
Herzog
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
cafes,
Our,
Community,
Association
environmental
Network
here
in
Ottawa
next
slide.
Please
and
I'm.
Looking
at
two
questions
for
this
presentation,
one
aimed
at
whether
this
is
a
climate
budget
and
two:
are
we
doing
enough
to
keep
our
city
green?
S
Most
of
you
know,
cafes.
We've
been
around
for
over
10
years
now
next
slide.
Please.
We
have
a
mandate
to
look
at
local
initiatives
to
do
environmental
and
climate
advocacy
and
also
to
keep
the
conversation
going
through.
Networking
and
Community
Building
next
slide.
Please!
So
that's
an
overview
of
my
presentation.
There's
a
lot
of
slides,
so
I'll
be
going
fast.
S
Next
slide,
please,
when
we're
looking
at
climate
these
days,
it's
clear
that
we're
not
just
looking
at
the
energy
transition
and
mitigation,
but
also
adaptation,
we've
been
seeing
the
red,
shows,
tornadoes
and
so
forth.
Next
slide,
please,
and
on
the
question
of
if
we
are
on
track
for
our
targets,
the
answer
I
think
has
to
be.
No.
S
We
haven't
really
made
that
Big
Bend
in
the
curve
question
of
whether
this
budget
is
helping
or
hindering
I
think
we
don't
have
quite
enough
information
to
have
a
clear,
easy
answer
on
that
next
slide,
please,
we
do
have
information
and
we
have
done
very
good
homework
on
understanding
what
are
the
very
likely
impacts
of
climate
on
the
national
capital
region.
So
we're
well
positioned
with
that
next
slide.
Please,
in
terms
of
answering
these
questions,
we
reach
for
our
favorite
tool
and
no
it's
not
a
sonic
screwdriver.
It's
the
climate
lens.
S
This
can
be
applied
at
at
least
three
different
levels:
we're
very
happy
to
see
that
the
2226
governance
review
reinfirms
that
there's
a
mandatory
climate
lens
so
that
you
counselors
and
the
public.
We
have
the
information
to
know
the
impacts,
climate
impacts
of
major
decisions
and
for
budget
2023.
This
impact
analysis
hasn't
been
done
at
an
aggregate
level.
So
that's
like
a
missing
Thing
by
our
own
metrics
in
terms
of
policies.
We
have
been
seeing
more
climate
lens
work,
including
for
the
official
plan
and
then
at
project.
S
As
a
staff
presentation
has
just
told
us,
we
are
over
the
moon
delighted
to
see
that
we've
broken
the
ice
and
we
do
have
a
start
of
a
climate
land
analysis
at
project
level.
So
what
does
that?
Look
like
next
slide?
Please,
so
we're
seeing
that
there
is
a
rubric
of
looking
at
minor,
moderate
and
major
contributions
of
a
capital
project
in
terms
of
emissions
and
in
terms
of
risk.
What
is
missing-
and
this
is
a
bit
of
a
systematic
blind
spot.
S
The
tool
doesn't
really
ask
project
managers
to
identify
where
the
project
is
a
significant
increase
in
locking
us
into
future
emissions
or
increasing
our
climate
risk.
So
I
think
this
tool
needs
to
be
it's
great,
that
we
have
it,
but
we
could
strengthen
it
next
slide,
please,
and
also
obviously
we'd
like
to
have
the
data
and
the
aggregation
from
the
tool
public
in
terms
of
how
much
money
there
is
in
the
budget
for
climate.
S
We're
very
happy
to
see
this
money
directly
on
budget,
as
opposed
to
relying
on
the
hydro
Surplus,
which
was
a
previous
term
of
council
source
of
funds,
but
looking
at
the
overall
money
by
our
calculation,
if
we
have
the
600
and
something
million
dollars
annual
funding
and
we
allocate
a
municipal
share
of
one-third
we'd
be
looking
for
about
200
million,
so
the
5
million
is
is
far
short
of
that
next
slide.
Please
next
slide!
Okay,
so
the
last
leg
of
my
climate
remarks
is
we.
S
We
really
still
need
that
long-term
climate
plan
we're
talking
about
major
amounts
of
money,
major
Capital
spending
and
the
climate
doesn't
yet
have
the
tooling
and
the
plan
next
slide.
Please,
oh
we're
on
green
good.
The
budget
needs
to
defend
us
against
Bill
23..
There
are
major
Green,
Space
threats
and
implications,
and
we
haven't
really
seen
the
budget
ratchet
up
on
that
front
next
slide.
Please
next
slide
yeah
in
terms
of
being
on
track
for
the
urban
canopy
and
getting
to
40
Urban
canopy
I'm
still
waiting
for
the
next
slide.
S
I
think
we
also
would
like
to
see
more
Investments
that
we
haven't
seen
next
slide,
please
in
terms
of
the
gray
versus
green
investment
ratio.
That
is
a
metric
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
Capital
Asset
Management
strategy,
and
when
we
see
that
one
single
airport
widening
project
that
there's
much
opposition
against
is
as
much
as
the
entire
forestry
service
budget.
We
think
that
ratio
needs
to
be
revised
in
favor
of
green.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
T
T
Please
so
I'm
a
fourth
year,
Environmental
Studies
and
under
undergraduate
student
at
Carlton
University
and
as
a
part
of
a
course-based
internship
I've,
been
working
with
cafes
since
early
January
to
get
practical
skills
and
experience
with
my
focus
being
on
the
2023
budget
and
I
wanted
to
speak
to
you
today
about
three
key
impacts
on
the
city's
environmental
resiliency.
That
I've
picked
out
by
discussion
with
my
peers
and
classmates
next
slide.
Please
so.
T
I
want
to
highlight
the
great
efforts
of
the
council
so
far
in
engaging
especially
students
at
Compton,
University
I.
Think
the
engagement
with
colleges
and
universities
in
particular
is
a
really
effective
way
to
break
barriers
in
advocating
for
a
more
inclusive,
City
budget.
Next
slide.
Please
I
want
to
talk
briefly
about
Bill
23,
as
this
is
a
recurring
concern
that
I've
discussed
with
a
lot
of
my
student
peers
and
because
Bill
23
impacts
the
spatial
design
of
our
city.
T
T
Environmental
resiliency
directly
impacts
the
resiliency
of
the
community,
and
there
are
thousands
of
studies
that
support
that
access
to
Green
Space
provides
mental
and
physical
health
benefits.
It
reduces
strain
on
our
Health
Care
system
and
it
Fosters
Community
Connection,
which
in
turn
Fosters
resiliency,
Bill
23
as
far
as
I
know,
doesn't
contain
any
discussion
with
or
a
discussion
of,
partnership
with
Builders
and
communities,
which
is
essential
for
a
resilient
City.
Next
slide.
T
Please
and
lastly,
I
want
to
highlight
the
success
of
securing
the
first
climate
change
lens,
as
well
as
a
budget
in
the
2023
City
budget.
It's
a
great
start
towards
long-term
Financial
investment
in
environmental
resiliency
of
our
city,
and
but
we
know,
there's
still
a
long
way
to
go
and
without
rapid
investment.
T
Both
the
city
and
the
citizens
face
substantially
higher
costs
in
damage
control
in
the
future,
and
we
know
this
from
the
aftermath
of
the
2022
to
Rachel
storm
that
cost
from
what
I
found
about
50
million
between
the
city
and
hydro,
Ottawa
and
I.
Don't
think
that
includes
the
thousands
and
thousands
lost
by
many
small
businesses,
as
well
as
many
people
that
I
know,
including
students
that
lost
thousands
in
food
from
lost
power
for
extended
periods
of
time,
as
well
as
property
damage.
T
There's
extensive
academic
literature
that
can
support
ottawa's
transition
towards
an
environmentally
resilient
community
and
I
know,
there's
a
large
audience
of
students
and
citizens
that
want
to
support
the
efforts
of
this
committee.
But
what
we
need
is
more
support
from
you
to
ensure
a
resiliency
lens
is
incorporated
throughout
the
budget,
but
there's
also
more
support
towards
a
more
inclusive
budget
process.
That's
all
I
have
for
you
today.
There
are
resources
at
the
end
of
this
slide.
C
Thank
you
very
much
Felipe
that
this
great
presentation
and
just
want
to
thank
Carlton
University
students
as
well
for
so
much
as
of
late
there's,
a
lot
of
work
together
on
things
like
divestment,
green,
the
campus,
a
lot
of
overlap
with
transit
services,
transportation
that
this
campus
is
working
on
and
the
that
students
are
working
on
that
dovetails
well
with
the
city's
goals
too.
So
thank
you
for
being
engaged
I
see.
Counselor
Devine
has
a
question
for
you.
U
Hello
not
so
much
a
question
Philippa
as
much
as
a
thank
you.
I
I
definitely
recognize
what
you
were
saying
about,
how,
with
the
process
we
have
and
with
the
the
budget
tools
that
are
made
public,
it's
not
exactly
always
the
easiest
easiest
document
to
navigate
for
myself
included
I.
What
I
do
know
about
the
2024
process.
U
Is
that
all
you
know,
many
counselors
certainly
hope
that
there
will
be
greater
time
for
the
2024
budget
consultation
process,
which
is
going
to
begin
very
soon
after
we
complete
this
2023
that
there
will
be
a
lot
more
time
for
so
there's
an
engagement
such
as
yours,
but
I
definitely
want
to.
Thank
you
because
yourself
and
the
the
previous
delegate,
Angela
Heller
curzog,
definitely
bring
ideas
to
myself
at
least
that
I
will
be
asking
staff
of
very
very
shortly.
T
V
You
Philippa
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you.
You
know
you
had
some
comments
for
us
on
the
budget
process
in
terms
of
engaging
students
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
some
recommendation
for
us
on
how
we
could
do
things
differently.
You
know
it's
one
thing
to
come
and
say
this
isn't
working
that
well,
but
you
know
I
always
look
to
students
for
how
would
it
work
better,
you're,
so
Savvy
in
terms
of
getting
you
know,
socializing
communicating
in
many
different
ways,
so
wondering
if
you
have
some
suggestions.
T
T
V
You
very
much
if
you
have
other
ideas,
I'd
certainly
like
to
hear
them
and
I
just
would
encourage
you
to
try
to
connect
with
some
of
the
Carlton
University
groups
in
the
tech
Park
in
Canada
North,
because
the
four
schools
that
are
there
are
very
engaged
in
different
projects.
Maybe
specific
projects,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
get
in
touch
with
them
as
well.
Thank.
W
So,
thank
you,
chair,
pleasure,
being
here
actually
in
person
the
first
time
in
a
long
time.
So
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
solid
waste
budget
in
June
21st
of
2022
staff
presented
to
the
former
environment
committee,
an
update
on
the
transition
of
the
blue
and
black
box
recycling
program
to
individual
produce
responsibility,
which
is
the
new
provincial
model
for
funding
and
operating
recycling
programs.
W
So,
given
that
the
change
is
transitioning
starting
July
1st,
which
is
just
four
months
from
now,
we're
wondering
when
staff
will
be
reporting
on
the
transition
protocol,
what
actually
that
transition
looks
like
and,
secondly,
what
are
the
financial
implications?
So
that's
the
first
question:
when
will
staff
be
reporting
on
this?
This
is
a
change
which
is
going
to
start
happening
in
just
over
four
months
and
we've
heard
nothing
about
the
details
of
this
or
financial
implications.
W
Since
this
was
discussed
by
the
committee
former
environment
committee,
Last
Summer,
the
second
one
is
regarding
the
actual
cost
of
running
the
program.
Recyclable
materials
revenues
do
not
completely
cover
the
cost
of
recycling
program
and
you
cannot
tell
from
the
budget
exactly
what
the
cost
of
recycling
program
is.
So
picking
up
on
on
the
comments
of
the
previous
delegation,
it's
very
hard
to
figure
out
exactly
what
the
recycling
program
costs,
but
you
can
find
this
information.
W
If
you
look
at
the
resource,
productivity
and
Recovery
Authority,
which
is
a
provincial
agency
and
their
last
full
year
of
data
published,
was
2021
and
it
suggests
that
in
2021
the
net
cost
of
running
the
program
after
the
application
of
material
recyclable
revenues
was
8.35
million.
And
this
suggests,
though,
that
stewardship
Ontario,
which
is
the
produced
responsibility
organization
that
covers
roughly
50
of
a
net
cost
of
the
program,
was
probably
paying
roughly
4.2
million
and
the
city
was
paying
an
equivalent
amount.
W
So
the
question
is:
what
are
the
long-term
financial
implications
of
a
change
to
produce
responsibility,
given
that
the
city
will
no
longer
have
any
Financial
or
operational
operational
responsibilities
to
pay
the
existing
50
percent
of
the
cost,
starting
this
July
now
I
do
appreciate
that
there's
a
transition
period
And.
This
is
perhaps
subject
to
some
discussions
and
negotiations,
but
in
the
long
run
the
city
is
not
going
to
have
to
fund
a
relatively
modest
four
or
five,
whatever
it
is.
W
Million
a
year
and
the
cost
to
run
the
program
because
that
cost
will
now
be
born
entirely
by
producer
responsibility
organization
through
I
think,
what's
called
circular
circular
materials
Ontario.
So
in
conclusion,
quickly,
whatever
savings
there
are
and
I
appreciate,
they
may
not
be
completely
cured
at
the
moment.
Waste
watch
Ottawa
would
argue
whatever
that
money
is,
however,
many
millions,
that
is,
that
that
money
stay
in
the
solid
waste
budget
and
be
put
forward
to
support
the
kind
of
options
and
waste
diversion
initiatives
which
are
being
considered.
C
C
You
know
residence
residents
aren't
going
to
notice
a
difference
as
I
understand
it
in
the
first
couple
of
years
of
that
transition,
but
staff
will
be
coming
back
very
shortly
to
present
on
more
information
on
that
as
well
as
this
all
waste
master
plan,
perhaps
we
can
get
a
specific
answer
to
you
during
the
meeting.
I
know
you're
well
versed
with
staff.
So,
thanks
for
being
here,
Duncan
I
do
see
a
couple
questions,
counselor
Kavanaugh.
F
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
Thank
you.
Duncan
for
coming
out.
I
just
wondered
if
you
had
any
suggestions
in
terms
of
of
making
it
more
financially
viable
for
for
Waste
Management.
It
strikes
me
that
here
we
go
around
the
city
and
pick
up
stuff
and
we
should
be
able
to
have
Returns
on
on
a
lot
of
that
when
we
do
get
some
from
the
recycle,
but
it's
pitiful
so
I'm
just
looking
for
more
suggestions.
W
Waste
watch
autower
basically
thinks
that
pretty
much
everything
that's
being
talked
about.
A
massage
waste
master
plan
is
something
the
city
should
be
doing
very
broadly
speaking,
exception,
being
we
don't
need
a
new
landfill
and
we
don't
need
a
big
new
incinerator,
both
of
which
would
cost
us
a
third
of
a
billion
dollars
and
maybe
10
years
to
find
and
site
and
start
to
operate.
So
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
things
you
know.
W
User
pay,
I
know
it's
being
discussed
in
the
solid
waste
Master
pan
I
think
that
would
have
an
impact.
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
kind
of
initiatives.
Things
like
the
city
needs
to
be
working
on.
Perhaps
a
program
for
textiles,
which
is
a
remodeled
Malcolm,
does
a
very,
very
good
program
that
we
could
copy
very
easily
off
the
shelf.
So
there
are
all
sorts
of
things,
I
think
need
to
be
done
and
I
think
we're
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
W
I
gather
that's
going
to
be
coming
forward
in
the
third
quarter
of
this
year
and
with
a
decision
by
by
Council
in
in
I
guess
the
beginning
of
next
year.
This
is
a
critical
period
for
solid
waste
in
the
city
of
Ottawa,
where
we
lost
a
good
decade
or
more
with
plasco
and,
frankly,
a
lot
of
inaction,
with
the
exception
of
putting
in
the
green
bin
program
in
2011
2012.
So
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
done.
I,
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
your
questions,
counselor
Kevin,
I,
hope
hope
so.
Yeah.
F
V
W
Just
off
the
top
Council
last
year
agreed
to
roll
out
green
bin
program
to
multi-residential
properties
as
a
condition
of
garbage
service
that
needs
to
be
funded.
This
doesn't
happen
on
its
own.
There
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
hand,
holding
I
think
we're
building
managers.
You
know
tennis
Association
condo
boards
I
gather
that
there
are
some
new
staff
resources
that
might
be
coming
for
that,
but
that
needs
to
be
funded
properly
and
aggressively
rolled
out.
It's
a
huge
missing
piece
where
we
bought
green
bins
out.
W
We
did
it
for
curbside
residential
only,
and
it
was
very
belatedly
decided
last
year
to
roll
it
out
to
multi-residential
it
shouldn't
be
voluntary,
I
gather
new
buildings
having
this
option
presented
to
them
and
staff
are
working
with
new
buildings
that
are
coming
on
on
online,
but
there's
a
very
large
number
of
older
buildings
where
they
needs
to
be.
You
know,
staff
resources
and
effort
put
into
promotion,
and
actually
you
know
working
with
these
these
kind
of
residents
to
make
this
happen.
W
C
N
There
we
go.
Thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
Tom
Harris
I'm
executive
director
of
international
climate
science,
Coalition
Canada
I
have
a
bachelor
in
master's
degree
in
mechanical
engineering,
with
a
specialization
in
thermodynamics,
heat
transfer
and
fluid
mechanics.
I
worked
as
an
engineer
for
the
national
research
Council
other
government
departments
and
in
the
high-tech
sector.
N
N
Mr
Gonzalez
was
one
of
about
700
people
who
died
due
to
hypothermia.
Carbon
monoxide
poisoning
house
fires
Etc,
caused
by
a
power
blackout
that
left
over
8
million
Texans
without
power
without
heat
and
water
for
up
to
five
days
with
freezing
temperatures,
people
resorted
to
using
their
gas
ovens
or
burning
Furniture
to
stay
warm
others
use,
barbecue,
grills
or
their
cars
to
create
Heat.
This
created
a
carbon
monoxide
poisoning
disaster.
N
The
blackout
happened
largely
because
the
state
did
not
have
sufficient
reliable
power,
as
the
state
with
the
most
wind
power
Texas
had
become
overly
dependent
on
wind
power.
An
unreliable
source
you
see
on
February,
8th
wind
was
providing
over
half
of
the
state's
electricity,
but
between
February,
8th
and
16.
N
When,
when
crashed
to
practice
well,
just
a
few
percent,
the
use
of
natural
gas
increased
by
more
than
four-fold,
but
it
wasn't
enough
to
make
up
the
shortfall
if
Ottawa
goes
ahead,
with
its
57
billion
dollar
plans
to
get
rid
of
fossil
fuels
and
power,
the
city
largely
on
wind
and
solar
power,
there's
a
huge
risk
that
a
greater
disaster
will
hit
Ottawa
even
than
hit
Texas
in
our
January
2022
report.
Icsc
Canada
described
why
the
city's
climate
change
master
plan
is
infeasible
and
damaging
to
ottawans
the
environment
and
human
rights.
N
In
July
we
sent
an
open
letter
to
Mayor
Watson
and
the
council
alerting
them
to
our
report,
explaining
that
Ottawa
is
on
the
verge
of
a
self-induced
crisis
being
brought
on
by
prioritizing
quote
stopping
climate
change.
Unquote
over
real
world
concerns,
no
one
replied
to
either
our
letter
or
our
report.
N
Those
consultations
should
involve
experts
from
all
sides
of
the
issue,
so
that
counselors
and
the
public
can
hear
the
actual
state
of
climate
science
and
the
financial
safety,
health
and
security
implications
of
ottawa's
net
zero
plans
to
help
the
committee
understand
why
we
need
fossil
fuels
to
protect
ottawans
in
the
environment.
I
will
leave
you
with
this
report
from
the
non-governmental
International
Panel
on
climate
change,
as
well
as
some
summary
documents.
N
If
you
don't
want
to
read
a
thousand
pages
to
help,
you
appreciate
how
the
rise
in
carbon
dioxide
is
actually
good
for
the
environment
and
good
for
Humanity
I'll.
Leave
you
this
report
with
thousands
of
peer-reviewed
studies
that
show
the
benefits
of
CO2
and
how
we
actually
have
nothing
to
fear
about
increasing
carbon
dioxide,
and
indeed,
I'll,
also
give
you
this.
N
So
you
can
read
a
summary
as
well
and
finally,
to
give
you
an
overview
of
the
science
that
contradicts
that
which
you're
relying
on
I'll
leave
you
with
this
report,
which
actually
talks
about
the
science
of
climate
change
that
is
not
actually
covered
by
the
media
and
I'll
also
leave
some
summaries
of
that
we'd
be
pleased
to
meet
with
any
of
you
personally
and
to
present
our
findings
to
a
committee
or
to
the
full
Council.
We're
convinced
that
following
ottawa's
plans
will
leave
us
bankrupt,
hungry
and
freezing
in
the
dark
for
no
environmental
benefit.
C
We
generally
try
to
avoid
Applause
in
these
rooms,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
There
will,
of
course,
be
a
lot
of
Engagement
opportunities
with
the
resiliency
plan.
Of
course,
there
was
a
full
consultation
in
the
climate
change
master
plan
and,
of
course,
on
the
salt
waste
master
plan.
So
I
look
forward
to
in
the
inputs
that
people
will
bring
and
appreciate
you
presenting
today
seeing
one
question
from
counselor
Curry.
V
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
telling
us
this
I
hear
this
a
lot
from
people,
particularly
in
Canada
North,
who
will
say
you
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
our
Green
Space
and
how
important
it
is.
But
we
also
wonder
if
all
the
things
that
we're
thinking
we're
going
to
do
and
go
forward
with,
are
actually
going
to
be
the
right
thing.
So
I
like
that
you've
come
here
to
show
us
that
there
are
many
opportunities
for
us
to
learn
more
before
we
do
anything.
V
But
I
do
want
to
ask
you.
You
know.
One
of
the
things
we
hear
always
is
how
important
it
is
to
have
biodiversity,
and
is
it
your
opinion
when
you
look
at
energy
Evolution
that
that
is
not
where
we're
going,
because
in
nature,
biodiversity
is
key
in
energy
sourcing.
It
should
be
the
same
thing
so
that
we
are
not,
as
you
say,
solely
rely
on
one
thing.
So
is
that
what
you
actually
see
in
our
document
that
that's
the
messaging
that
we
should
try
to
not
be
diverse
in
our
energy
sources?.
N
Yeah,
the
biodiversity
objective,
of
course,
is
really
important,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
understand.
Also
the
environmental
impact
of
wind
and
solar
power,
for
example,
at
the
Altamonte
wind
farm
in
California.
They
kill
116
golden
eagles
every
year
and
thousands
of
hawks
and
smaller
animals.
N
And
it's
interesting
that
a
friend
of
mine
is
actually
he
runs
a
bat
sanctuary,
and
he
says
that
in
Ontario
we're
driving
some
species
of
bats
to
Total
extinction
because,
unlike
Birds
bats,
only
have
to
fly
close
to
the
turbine
blade
to
die
because
in
the
low
pressure
Zone
their
lungs
burst
and
they
drown
in
their
own
blood.
So
you
end
up
with
twice
as
many
bats
dying
as
birds,
and
so
so
you
know
and
of
course,
they're.
Putting
these
turbines
in
areas
that
have
lots
of
wind
I
mean
that's
obvious.
N
So
and
similarly,
if
you
look
at
the
amount
of
land,
that's
required
for
wind
turbines
and
solar
panels
in
comparison
with
the
natural
gas
station,
you're
talking
about
literally
hundreds
of
times
more
land
and
a
good
thing
to
watch
actually
to
understand
the
environmental
impact
of
solar
and
wind,
which,
by
the
way
is
probably
the
worst
of
any
energy
sources,
is
a
film
put
out
by
Michael
Moore
called
planet
of
the
humans.
Now
Michael
Moore
is
hardly
a
right
winger
to
say
the
least,
but
Michael
Moore
shows
the
true
environmental
impact.
N
The
trouble
is
when
we
talk
about
things
like
zero
emission
buses,
we're
not
looking
at
how
they're
made
we're
not
looking
at
where
the
materials
are
come
from
we're
not
looking
at
the
environmental
impacts
of
of
strip
mining
parts
to
the
South
America
and
the
lithium
mines,
and
things
like
that
and
and
what
you
find,
for
example.
In
the
case.
Even
if
you
are
concerned
about
greenhouse
gases
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
be.
N
But
even
if
you
are
a
friend
of
mine,
who's,
an
automotive
expert
in
California,
his
name's
Ron
Stein,
he's
shown
that
when
you
count
how
these
EV
batteries
are
made
and
how
the
cars
are
made,
there
is
more
greenhouse
gases
put
out
in
an
evb
vehicle
than
the
entire
life
of
a
normal
gasoline-powered
car.
So
you
really
need
to
do
a
full
life
cycle
analysis
when
you
say
things,
there's
zero
emissions.
It's
simply
not
true.
V
V
H
I
did
want
to
ask
a
question
Mr
chair,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
that
it's
best
place
here,
probably
when
we're
dealing
with
solway's
master
plan.
I
would
ask
that
question.
If
this
individual
wants
to
come
back,
I
don't
want
to
get
it
I,
don't
want
to
go
down
a
rabbit
hole
when
we're
just
talking
about
the
terms
of
the
budget.
C
X
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Teagan
ramchuk
I
am
the
senior
program
specialist
for
the
Ottawa
climate
action
fund,
which
is
incubated
by
the
Ottawa
Community
Foundation,
as
this
is
one
of
ocaf's.
First
times
presenting
committee
I'd
like
to
give
you
a
bit
of
an
intro
to
Who
We
Are
at
ocas,
we
work
to
accelerate
ottawa's
transition
to
an
equitable
carbon
neutral
future.
We
work
with
support
and
challenge
all
stakeholders
to
collaborate
for
more
robust
and
faster
climate
action.
X
We
work
to
advance
not
just
the
business
case
for
Accelerated,
accelerating
climate
action,
but
the
broader
community
and
economic
case.
We
also
have
an
mou
with
the
city
of
Ottawa
to
support
the
transition
needed
to
advance
the
energy
Evolution
strategy,
we're
one
of
seven
lc3
centers
across
Canada,
which
is
part
of
a
government
of
Canada
investment
in
Municipal
climate
action.
X
Our
priority
areas
are
buildings,
transportation
and
15-minute
communities
and
I'd
love.
To
give
you
some
examples
of
our
work
to
accelerate
programs
in
those
areas
in
Ottawa.
So
first
that
I
want
to
tell
you
about.
Is
a
electric
vehicle
car
share
pilot
in
partnership
with
Ottawa
Community
Housing?
This
brought
an
EV
car
share
to
communities
that
need
it
most
and
is
accessible
to
five
OCH
communities
putting
out
within
easy
reach
of
500
residents.
X
On
the
building
side,
we
have
supported
the
future
homes
Ottawa
program,
which
focuses
on
community
engagement,
led
by
Enviro
Center,
that
provides
concierge
services
to
encourage
deep
home
retrofits,
including
a
focus
on
some
social
housing.
And
finally,
we
recently
launched
a
Communications
campaign
in
partnership
with
the
city
climate
team
to
highlight
meaningful
and
impactful
actions.
Residents
can
take
to
say
goodbye
to
high
emitting,
Tech
and
hello
to
low
carbon
features.
X
You
know
keep
an
eye
out
for
our
Billboards
around
City
properties
and
brush
holders,
but
now
onto
the
budget,
which
is
what
we're
here
to
talk
about.
City
budgets,
reflect
our
shared
values
and
are
a
demonstration
of
our
commitment
to
our
priorities.
It
asks
the
question:
are
we
putting
our
money
where
our
mouth
is,
where
our
hearts
and
our
minds
are?
X
We
all
know
that
Ottawa
is
and
will
continue
to
experience,
hotter
wetter
and
Wilder
weather
climate
change
is
a
threat
multiplier,
exacerbating
physical,
social
and
economic
risks
at
ocas.
We
applaud
the
machine
investment
of
five
million
dollars
per
year
to
support
the
implementation
of
the
city's
climate
change
master
plan.
This
investment
will
generate
not
only
benefits
for
climate
change,
but
economic,
social
and
other
environmental
benefits.
We
are
also
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
the
climate
lens
is
applied
into
the
future.
X
X
We're
also
pleased
to
see
significant
investment
in
transit,
especially
the
electrification
of
our
bus
system
and
active
transportation.
Improved
transportation
choices
in
walkable
15-minute
communities
are
key
to
overall
affordability
in
Ottawa,
as
we
work
to
meet
official
plan,
intensification
goals
and
Foster
more
missile
missing
and
middle
housing.
X
So
on
our
current
trajectory
in
Canada,
the
climate
crisis
is
set
to
cost
Canadians
100
billion
dollars
by
2050,
and
a
potential
loss
of
500
000
jobs
is
has
already
cost
Canada
25
billion
dollars
in
the
last.
What
10
years
and
as
some
fellow
presenters
have
already
stated,
the
direct
show
in
May
of
2020
costs
the
city
20
million
dollars
in
cleanup,
and
we
quite
literally
cannot
afford
to
deal
with
increased
storms
such
as
this
one.
X
In
addition
to
the
cost
of
climate
change,
there
are
actual
major
benefits
from
taking
action.
Robust
mitigation
and
adaptation
measures
in
our
communities
can
save
75
from
these
impacts
and
every
dollar
spent
on
resilience
and
adaptation
can
save
15
dollars,
I'm
happy
to
provide
references
for
these
numbers
as
well,
if
that's
helpful
after
effect,
but
an
even
bigger
number
is
30
billion
dollars,
which
is
the
net
potential
savings
from
ottawa's
energy
Evolution
strategy,
if
fully
implemented.
X
So
in
closing,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
ocaf
supports
and
is
excited
by
the
5
million
dollar
per
year,
funding
towards
ottawa's
climate
change
master
plan.
We
look
forward
to
further
supporting
the
achievement
of
the
city's
energy
Evolution
plans
and
to
Future
Municipal
Investments
towards
a
vibrant,
Equitable
and
carbon
neutral
future.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Y
X
Y
C
Z
I
I
hope
this
morning,
I
walked
across
the
corkstown
bridge
and
noticed
there
was
no
one
on
the
Rideau
Canal.
There
was
no
skating
during
winterlude
this
year.
I
hope
there
is
no
debate
about
the
reality
of
climate
change
at
the
moment
now,
with
the
addition
of
climate
change
to
the
name
of
this
committee,
will
Ottawa
move
into
the
company
of
Toronto
Hamilton,
St,
Catharines,
Windsor
and
Montreal
on
the
CDP
list
of
122
Global
cities
leading
on
environmental
transparency
and
performance
on
climate
change,
we
thought
it
was
proposed.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
They
should
be
ready
and
waiting
for
funding
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
I
want
those
to
be
well
planned,
not
cobbled
together
at
the
last
moment
when
funding
opportunities
arise
and
what's
the
city's
performance
on
ghg
emission
reduction.
Present
reporting
arrives
too
late
for
it
to
have
much
impact.
Z
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
position.
John,
and
you
appreciate
the
intervention
around.
You
know
the
cost
savings
that
Ottawa
has
had
with
a
lot
of
these
initiatives.
Things
like
the
LED
changeover
of
our
lights,
both
save
us
money
and
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
same
with
the
building
retrofits
that
we've
seen
we've
seen
savings
that
have
come
through
those
building
retrofits
with
a
five
to
seven
year,
payback
that's
getting
longer
now,
as
we
do
deeper
retrofits,
but
there's
significant
financial
savings
for
for
residents.
C
V
I
mean
my
environmental
scientists
in
my
life.
Tell
me
that
the
number
one
thing
we
should
be
doing
is
looking
at
Carbon
capture
and
sequestration
and
dealing
with
the
getting
it
out
of
the
atmosphere
and
air
right
now,
as
opposed
to
slowly
but
surely
reducing
Grant
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
What
do
you
think
of
that.
Z
I'm
no
expert
on
the
technology
of
carbon
capture
and
sequestation
I'm
I'm
frankly
concerned
as
to
whether
things
that
are
put
into
the
ground
will
will
stay
there.
I,
don't
think
that
technology
has
proven
yet.
Certainly
my
understanding
is
that
in
Saskatchewan,
a
a
a
carbon
capture
project
did
not
pan
out,
but
I'm
also
concerned
that
the
debate
here
is
being
tempered
by
fossil
fuel
interest,
fossil
fuel
interests,
interests
that
have
a
large
investment
in
fossil
fuels
that
are
in
the
ground
and
want
to
exploit
it.
AA
Hi
good
morning,
good
morning,
counselors
I'm
here
to
speak
for
the
tree
caucus
of
community
associations
for
environmental
sustainability.
I
have
only
a
little
time,
so
I
won't
talk
about
why
trees
are
important.
It's
pretty
obvious.
Now
that
trees
are
critical
to
slowing
climate
change
and
to
mitigating
its
impacts.
Counselors.
You
have
lots
to
manage
with
this
budget,
and
this
committee
has
specific
pressure
due
to
Bill
23..
AA
But
when
tree
caucus
members
scan
the
city
budget,
what
we
see
is
a
clear
preference
for
gray
over
green
roads
over
Green
Space
and
trees.
It's
not
that
there
isn't
funding
for
environmental
programs,
but
there
is
massively
more
for
roads,
as
was
mentioned
earlier
by
Angela
Keller
Herzog,
rather
than,
for
example,
widened
the
airport
Parkway.
We
urge
Council.
We
urge
this
committee
to
urge
Council
to
defer
this
project
and
to
divert
its
intended
funds
to
planting
and
preserving
Urban
trees
and
forests.
AA
Speaking
of
preservation,
much
more
emphasis
is
placed
on
planting
trees
than
on
conserving
them.
Yet
we
know
that
the
ecological
Services
provided
by
10
to
20
year
old
trees
are
much
greater
than
those
from
saplings.
They
are.
Today's
canopy
saplings
are
future
canopy
and
we
absolutely
need
both
right
now.
We're
witnessing
the
loss
of
over
500
mature
trees
from
the
new
Ottawa
Hospital
site.
AA
That's
why
citizens
are
fighting
so
hard
to
save
the
Hunt
Club
forest
in
riverwart,
the
Commons
in
kitchissippi
Ward,
and
why
they
fought
so
hard
to
say:
thee,
not
wood,
not
Woods
in
Cumberland
Ward,
and
the
support
of
counselors
and
City
staff
in
these
cases
is
much
appreciated.
So
please
continue
and
reinforce
these
efforts
to
preserve
what
we
have
under
the
budget.
Proposed
forestry
receives
a
modest
increase,
but
given
their
stretched
resources,
it's
hardly
enough
to
deliver
on
the
planting
program,
let
alone
the
responsibilities
outlined
in
the
urban
Forest
management
plan.
AA
Forestry
needs
resources
to
enforce
ottawa's
tree
protection
bylaw,
and
they
need
resources
to
improve
it.
When
the
viola
was
enacted
in
2021,
the
tree
caucus
flagged
two
gaps.
These
gaps
impede
the
city's
ability
to
attain
the
40
tree
canopy
that
we
aspire
to
as
development
expands.
The
first
Gap
regards
Suburban
areas
and
Rural
villages.
AA
The
bylaw
provides
for
protection
for
trees
on
private
property
that
are
30,
centimeters
diameter
at
rest,
height
or
greater
in
the
inner
urban
area,
but
not
outside
the
green
belt.
So
we
see
a
lot
less
protection
for
trees
in
the
Suburban
areas
and
in
the
urban
in
the
many
villages
that
we
have
in
the
rural
area.
The
second
Gap
regards
plantings
on
the
city
right-of-way
on
private
property.
When
a
tree
must
be
removed,
there's
no
automatic
replacement.
AA
AA
These
changes
are
critical,
but
they
have
a
price
tag
which
isn't
covered
in
the
draft
budget.
The
tree
caucus
urges
this
committee
to
take
to
council
a
plan
that
assigns
more
funds
to
forestry
services,
diverting
funds
from
Gray
infrastructure
as
needed.
To
achieve
this,
thank
you
for
your
attention.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Jennifer
appreciate
that,
and
just
on
the
comment
around
the
equalization
of
suburban
and
urban
protection
of
trees.
I
know
there
is
Direction
last
term
to
come
back
in
Q2,
2023
I
believe
of
this
term
for
a
report
on
the
diameter
at
base
height
for
what
would
be
considered
a
distinctive
tree
to
equalize.
What's
been
decided
for
the
urban
area
at
30,
centimeters
versus
the
50
centimeters.
B
U
E
B
B
B
Also
European,
Forest
management
plan.
I
I
expect
is
supposed
to
be
now
rolled
up,
perhaps
with
something
called
the
urban
forest
and
Green
Space
Management
plan
one
of
the
new
Master
plans
under
the
new
official
plan,
so
that
this
is
new
work.
This
is,
you
know,
work
that's
been
well
launched,
but
that
requires
funding
and
continued
funding,
because
it
wasn't
a
funded
plan
when
it
was
approved,
it
relies
on
the
budget
process
annually
to
to
keep
it
on
track.
B
So
that's
kind
of
something
that's
happening
in
sort
of.
In
the
background
for
for
these
groups
also,
we
have
Bill
23
Bill
109,
so
we
have
accelerated
development
review
process.
We
have
changes
in
development
applications
that
are
subject
to
site
plan
over
only
10
units
and
more
now
have
site
plans.
So
we
can
expect
if
this
bill
works
the
way
it's
supposed
to
higher
volumes,
more
applications,
more
development
review,
potentially
more
bylaw
enforcement
requirements,
and
yet
we
don't
really
see
any
budgets
to
respond
to
that.
B
With
this
with
this
development
review
activity,
I
don't
know
that
this
that
wasn't
funded
on
a
permanent
basis
and
I'm
wondering
whether
that's
not
covered
in
this
current
budget.
It
would
be
important
to
keep
that
kind
of
position
that
kind
of
function
going
as
regards
Wetlands.
We
know
that
bill
23
has
really
opened
a
whole
new
front
in
terms
of
risk
for
loss
of
wetlands
and
there's
nothing
explicit
in
the
budget
dealing
with
Wetlands
and
preservation
and
protection
of
wetlands
in
this
new
context.
B
B
C
AB
Hi,
thank
you
chair,
and
congratulations
also
on
being
named
chair
for
this
term
of
counsel.
So
a
number
of
things
have
come
up
and
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
reflect
on.
Given
what
was
said
earlier
in
one
of
the
the
delegations
is
you
need
to
follow
the
money
so
when
a
delegation
is
talking
to
you
about
what
what
what
council
should
be
doing
and
what
this
this
committee
should
be
doing,
you
really
need
to
follow
the
money.
AB
AB
Unfortunately,
the
science
tells
us
that
we
need
to
be
concerned
about
greenhouse
gases
and
we
need
to
move
fast,
just
a
a
few,
a
few
stats
to
counteract
some
of
those
stats.
Domestic
cats
in
North
America
kill
over
a
billion
Birds
a
year
in
North,
America
alone,
over
a
billion
many
many
many
more
many
orders
have
managed
to
do
more
than
than
windmills,
and
also
if
you
were
to
replace
the
the
oil
industry
with
the
so
solar
with
equivalent
solar
industry
it
would.
AB
It
would
take
a
third
of
the
land
area
that
the
early
and
gas
industry
uses
in
in
North
America.
So
it's
very
easy
to
to
twist
arguments
to
make
your
your
your
industry
or
your
backers
look
good.
So
last
summer
Council
there
was
lots
of
studying
of
the
problems,
so
we
have
the
energy
Evolution
plan
and
we
have
a
number
of
other
things.
The
the
climate
change
master
plan
Etc,
but
there
hasn't
very,
been
very
much
action
on
resolving
the
problems
right.
AB
So
one
of
the
exceptions
is
the
ebus
project,
which
has
been
a
tough
slog,
so
we've
been
at
evco.
We've
been
working
on
that
file
for
four
years
now:
okay,
it's
been
four
years
and
we
still
have
only
four
e-buses
on
the
roads
and
and
it's
going
to
be
another
another
year
or
so
before
we
get
the
next
batch
of
26
on
the
road.
So
still
progress
is
is
we're
making
progress,
but
progress
is,
is
quite
slow
and-
and
we
need
to
accelerate
that.
AB
So
meanwhile,
you
probably
have
heard
that
the
city
of
Moscow,
which
yes,
the
one
in
Russia,
has
a
thousand
e-buses
on
its
roads
right.
So
and
that's
a
a
capital
city
of
a
country
that
you
will
agree,
there
is
much
more
dependent
on
oil
and
much
more
of
a
proponent
of
using
oil,
and
yet
they
have
a
thousand
electric
buses
on
their
their
streets.
AB
So
this
term
of
counsel,
I'm
hoping
we
could
focus
on
actions
that
will
reduce
greenhouse
gases,
not
just
from
corporate
emissions,
but
also
from
emissions
from
the
community,
as
some
others
have
mentioned.
So
we
have
a
climate
crisis
and
we
we
need
to
hit
the
accelerator.
We
we
have
a
climate
crisis,
Council
declared
a
climate
crisis
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
we're
still
really
going
very
slow.
So
you
know
I'm
happy
to
see
some
progress.
AB
AB
We
really
need
to
move
ahead
and,
as
as
chair,
you've,
you've
mentioned
many
of
the
energy
saving
projects
that
have
already
been
implemented
by
the
city
and
need
to
be
implemented
will
save
money
for
the
city
and
the
same
with
energy
energy
saving
projects
for
the
community
in
general.
So
we
we
really
need
to
accelerate
that
for
us
to
meet
our
targets.
The
Der
framework
this
so
distributed
energy
resources
framework
is
also
a
very
good
thing.
AB
There's
lots
of
potential
in
Ottawa
to
generate
power
within
the
territory
of
the
the
city
things
like
in
France.
Actually,
they
have
just
essentially
mandated
that
every
parking
space
or
every
parking,
that's
over
80
spots,
be
covered
with
canopy,
solar
canopies,
and
that
alone
will
result
in
an
eight
percent
increase
in
the
capacity
electric
production
capacity
in
France,
the
equivalent
of
10
nuclear
reactors.
AB
So
there
are
solutions
there
and
the
DRS
are
a
big
part
of
that
happy
to
see
the
climate
and
change
resiliency
team
is.
Is
there
I
would
like
to
see
an
increase
in
the
budget
there?
The,
as
one
speaker
has
said
before
the
team
itself
is,
is
static.
There
isn't
any
increase
there.
The
energy
Evolution
program
is
great.
It
does
cover
what
it
covers
very
well,
and
it
provides
really
good
guidance.
AB
AB
C
AC
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chair,
Mr,
Larry,
I,
I'm
I'm,
a
bit
concerned
when
I
hear
about
Scientific,
Technology
and
and
reports
coming
out
of
Russia
I
was
I.
Don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
either,
but
if
you
have
the
source
for
that
technical
information
I'd
be
interested
to
to
get
that
and
if
you
don't
have
it
at
your
hand,
I
wouldn't
mind
an
email
that
just
follows
up
that
report
that
talks
about
the
the
electric
bus
program
in
Moscow.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
V
Thank
you
Raymond.
You
know,
I
drive
an
electric
car
I've.
Had
your
group
come
to
the
Canada
Center,
you
know
there
and
have
people
to
be
able
to
try
out
the
cars,
but
I
often
get
that
question
about
overall
to
the
earlier
presentation.
Overall,
though,
electric
cars
have
batteries
that
have
to
be
manufactured
and
plants
that
strip
mining
problems
occur
from
all
those
things
overall.
Is
there
research
that
show
overall,
this
is
better
for
the
environment.
AB
So
yes,
there
are
studies
that
show
that
the
the
studies
that
the
the
the
the
studies
that
are
independent
show
that
it
takes
about
10
000
kilometers
to
recoup
the
difference
in
greenhouse
gases
in
the
manufacture
of
an
electric
car
versus
a
gas
vehicle.
Now
you
know
the
amount
of
greenhouse
gases
in
the
manufacture
of
a
vehicle
will
very
much
depend
on
who
the
manufacturer
is.
AB
So,
if
you
look
at
some
examples,
the
Chevy
bolt
that's
produced
in
Ohio,
where
they
use
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
coal
for
electricity
is
likely
to
have
a
car
a
higher
carbon
footprint
than
you
know,
a
Tesla
vehicle,
that's
producing
a
plant,
that's
using
renewable
energy
and
and
and
trying
to
reduce
the
the
the
overall
footprint
right.
So
it
really
depends
on
the
vehicle.
But
yes,
every
manufactured
products
has
a
an
environmental
footprint.
AB
Every
product
has
a
cardboard
footprint
of
some
sort,
but
again
the
the
there
is
a
difference.
Generally
speaking,
Apples
to
Apples
a
electric
car
will
take
will
result
in
more
carbon
emissions.
But
again
it
doesn't
take
very
long.
We're
talking
about
six
months
of
driving
to
make
up
the
difference.
F
Thank
you,
Raymond
in
terms
of
plugging
in
your
vehicles,
one
thing
I
hear
from
people
for
why
they're
discouraged
to
get
electric
vehicle
is
is
places
where
they
can
plug
in
and
it's
it's
a
budget
question
in
terms
of
we'd
be
doing
more
as
a
city
to
encourage
that
both
in
new
buildings
or
or
on
our
own
Lots.
Is
it
enough.
AB
That's
a
very
good
question
very
pretty
so.
The
high
performance
development
standard
actually
has
some
stuff
in
there
that
that
will
help
with
new
developments
right
where
some
new
developments
will
be
compelled
to
provide
some
charging
infrastructure
for
all
the
parking
spaces
that
are
that
are
provided
now.
AB
That's
required
to
do
the
the
initial
steps
right
so
and
most
condo
corporations-
you're
talking
about
you
know,
say:
there's
100
units
there
may
be
just
one
or
two
electric
cars
so
short
term.
We
don't
need
that
many
Chargers,
but
but
longer
term.
We
know
we're
going
to
need
a
lot
more
right.
So
so
it's
a
significant
issue
and
it'd
be
great.
AB
If
the
city
would
would
help
in
in
various
ways,
so
whether
it's
providing
some
some
Capital
funding
or
providing
some
some
programs
that
would
match
the
Ziva
program
from
the
federal
government
or
providing
resources
to
help,
condos
and
and
also
merbs
rentals
understand
how
how
to
proceed.
That
would
certainly
help
elect,
certainly
help
accelerate.
AB
That
one
of
the
concerns
we
have
at
evco
is
that,
given
that
electric
vehicles
are
much
much
less
expensive
to
operate,
they're
a
good
solution,
you
know,
as
as
we
see
more
and
more
used
EVS
on
the
market,
they're
a
good
solution
for
people
who
have
to
drive
but
aren't,
but
don't
have
a
big
budget
rate
so
and
we're
concerned
that
those
people
will,
if
they
don't
have
access
or
charging
at
home.
It'll
be
difficult
for
them
to
take
advantage
of
the
operational
savings.
F
C
You
welcome
okay,
thank
you
for
that
Raymond
and
we're
going
to
be
moving
on
now
to
questions
for
staff
from
committee
members
on
the
tax,
supported
and
rate
supported
budgets.
If
there
are
questions
or
comments,
now
is
the
time
to
get
them
in.
Obviously,
we
had
a
big
presentation
with
lots
of
Staff
here
to
answer
questions,
so
we
will
start
with
counselor
Hill.
AC
G
C
Q
AD
Thank
you
chair.
The
five
million
dollars
will
be
allocated
to
a
mix
of
projects
that
both
support
energy
Evolution
and
the
climate
resiliency
strategy.
In
terms
of
specifics,
the
five
million
dollars
will
include
a
range
of
projects
for
municipal
building,
retrofits,
residential
retrofits,
commercial
building,
retrofits
and
the
programs
that
support
those,
as
well
as
a
range
of
studies
related
to
community
heating
strategies,
District
energy,
renewable
natural
gas
and
Communications
and
consultation
support
for
climate
change,
education
and
Outreach.
AC
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
chair,
one
follow-up
to
that.
If
I
can,
with
the
structure
of
your
team
and
with
that
new
injection
of
funds
into
your
your
organization,
you
have
the
resources
to
to
to
manage
those
programs
or
is:
is
there
an
addition
in
terms
of
like
HR
component
or
additional
staff?
That
goes
with
that.
AD
F
Is
it
possible
to
to
show
data,
and
maybe
it
can't
be
done
in
this
budget,
but
in
future
budgets
to
show
the
savings
that
we
have
when
we
reduce
greenhouse
gases
or
or
if
we
have
some
kind
of
calculation
to
show
it
that
was
mentioned
by
Mr
Reed
about
you
know,
just
calculating
greenhouse
gas
admission
reductions
is
that
is
that
something
that
we
can
do
in
the
future?
That
could
be
part
of
the
budget
to
show
the
difference.
G
Through
the
chair,
I
I
think
it
is
I,
don't
want
to
commit
to
how
good
we'll
get
there,
but
I
think
that's.
Definitely
a
takeaway
for
myself
and
probably
collaboration
with
David
and
Andrea's
team
I.
Think
there's
I
think
there's
a
way
we
can
start
in
integrating
some
of
those
key
kpis
into
the
budget,
so
I'll
take
that
away
and
definitely
be
part
of
the
process.
As
we
enhance
the
2024
budget.
F
F
I
I
did
have
a
specific
question
on
flood
mapping
because
that's
this
is
the
time
of
year.
We
start
thinking
about
it,
certainly
around
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
just
wanted
to
know
how
that's
going
to
work
and
because
my
concern
is
that
the
conservation
authorities
have
had
Cuts
in
their
budgets
and
and
will
is
the
city
backing.
F
P
F
A
F
AE
I
think
the
question
is
related
to
our
curbside
diversion
options.
So
basically,
we
will
be
coming
back
to
this
committee
later
this
year
to
present
recommendations
and
part
of
that
work
does
consider
what
other
municipalities
do
in
order
to
to
bring
our
Folsom
recommendations
to
this
committee
later
this
year,.
F
Y
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'd
just
like
to
really
thank
staff
for
the
commitments
of
five
million
dollars
into
ensuring
that
we
really
kick
start.
Our
our
investments
around
climate
change
also
very
pleased
in
terms
of
the
capital
budget
that
we're
making
the
requisite
Investments
to
ensure
the
continued
wonderful
quality
of
drinking
water
and
infrastructure
to
to
deliver
that.
So
very
thankful
on
on
those
elements
in
terms
of
the
operating
budget,
I
did
have
a
few
questions.
Y
We
did
note
an
increase
of
655
thousand
dollars
for
forestry
services
and
underneath
that
there
were
costs
of
about
4.6
million
for
the
ratio
storm
that
that
hit
us
last
year.
Our
understanding
from
the
budget
was
that
some
of
those
costs
were
partially
offset
by
deferred
and
canceled
activities.
I've
asked
this
question
that
I
believe
emergency
protective
services
around
whether
there
is
the
need
for
a
reserve
for
severe
weather
responses.
We
know
that
they're
going
to
continue
and
we're
going
to
have
continued
challenges.
G
Through
the
chair,
you're
correct,
we
don't
have
a
specific
Reserve
just
for
natural
disasters,
weather
events
Etc.
What
we
do
have
is
the
tax
stabilization
reserves
that
Reserve
is
is
kind
of
for
all
tax
supported
operating
where
we
we
leverage
that
reserve
for
those
types
of
events,
so
in
the
case
of
2022
I'll,
be
back
to
Fan
Corp
early
April
with
a
report
on
the
final
results
of
2022
and
if
there's
any
impact
for
that
Reserve
to
fund
those
impacts
from
the
ratio
for
forestry.
Public
Works
Etc
I'll
report
that,
through
there.
Y
I
appreciate
that,
in
the
context
of
the
environment
and
climate
change
portfolio,
I'm
looking
forward
to
that
report
as
well,
I
just
have
two
other
questions
concerning
increases
to
the
5.15
million
dollar
Solid
Waste
Services
budget
I
know
there
was
an
increase
for
3.4
million
for
garbage
collection.
Is
this
due
to
new
contractor
agreements.
Y
G
Y
Thank
you,
I
appreciate
that
clarification
and
just
one
last
question
I
think
in
this
budget
we
reported
Hydro
Savings
of
400
000
due
to
operational
efficiencies
in
drinking
water
services,
but
those
efficiencies
were
unspecified.
I
was
just
curious
if
you
could
provide
some
insight
into
how
those
savings
were
achieved.
G
Y
U
Thank
you
chair,
thank
you
staff
for
for
being
here
and
for
your
presentation
and
also
thank
you
to
to
the
delegates
who
the
delegates
who
presented
here
today,
oftentimes
you're,
in
what
you
bring
and
the
information
you
bring.
It
doesn't
normally
help
help
inform
my
question,
but
it
often
helps
motivate
the
questions
and
the
two
questions
I
have
today
are
kind
of
based
on
what
I
heard
from
delegates.
So
I
was
really
happy
to
to
review
when
I,
when
I
started.
U
Seeing
the
the
project
budget
reports
that,
through
the
climate
lens
the
projects
are
now
viewed
with
the
question
you
know,
does
it
reduce
greenhouse
gases?
No,
yes,
minor
contribution,
yes,
major
contribution,
does
it
build
Planet
resiliency
and
the
answers
are
other
no
or
yes,
minor,
yes,
major,
and
so
the
question
we
had
from
from
Angela
Keller
Herzog
interesting
question
at
the
beginning
of
the
delegation.
Was
you
know,
is
there
consideration
whether
now
or
for
future
implications
that
these
reports?
U
Because
oftentimes,
if
there's
a
no
answer
that
doesn't
always
mean
that
there's
a
neutral
it
could
mean
that
there's
a
negative
implication.
So
there
was
no.
There
is
no
categorization.
Now,
for
this
project
will
have
negative
implications
either
on
ghg
or
on
climate.
Resiliency
I
know
that
as
a
counselor
you
know
weighing
in
on
these
projects.
I
zero
in
on
that
and
I
would
certainly
zero
in
just
like
when
I
look
at
infrastructure
reports
for
that
red
arrow
telling
me
there's
a
problem.
U
Is
there
a
consideration
for
future
implications
that
these
project
reports
might
on
the
assumption
that
some
projects
would
have
a
negative
implication
on
ghg
or
a
negative
implication
on
climate
resiliency
that
it
could
be
indicated
in
these
project
reports?
Is
that
a
a
possible
consideration
for
future
reporting.
G
Through
the
chair,
if
you
indulged
me
for
a
couple
minutes,
because
I
really
want
to
highlight
the
the
amount
of
effort
that
went
into
the
budget
to
get
us
where
we
got
to
the
finance
team,
David
Weiss,
Andrea's
team
and
all
the
clients
put
a
lot
of
effort
to
get
it
there
and
I'll
be
honest.
They
kind
of
got
it
farther
than
I
thought
they
were
going
to
get
it
in
the
first
goal
around.
G
If
you
will
so,
we
are
planning
to
enhance
that
this
was
our
commitment
to
kind
of
you
know,
we
got
to
do
something
and
I
think
we
did
some
great
work
there
and
now
we're
going
to
evolve
that
and
we'll
evolve
that,
through
you
know
the
feedback
we
get
here,
feedback
that
we
get
through
to
variety
of
consultations.
So
I
think
that's
important
that
we
will
continue
to
to
grow
this
and
kind
of
improve
it
and
enhance
it
maybe
later
on
onto
it,
but
we're
definitely
there
to
explore
different
different
improvements
going
forward.
Yeah.
U
And
by
no
means
by
no
means
at
all,
I'm
like
why
don't
we
have
this
now
I?
Think
it's
just
a
lovely
Direction,
possibly
to
go
for
in
the
future
and
I
do
recognize
that
that
kind
of
additional
information
would
be
me
more.
You
know,
resources
and
time,
and
it's
thanks
to
the
resources
and
time
that
we
have
this
information
here,
which
is
very,
very
valuable.
My
next
question,
without
at
all
being
disrespectful,
is
probably
piling
on
more
kind
of
work
kind
of
thing,
so
there
was
a.
U
U
U
Is
there
any
kind
of?
Is
there
any
kind
of
plan
and
again
not
for
now,
but
in
the
future,
about
moving
towards
an
increase
in
the
frequency
of
those
reports?
I
understand
we
get
quarterly
reports
on
some
other
indicators,
but
would
there
be
advantageous
and
would
there
be
any
kind
of
plan
moving
forward
for
an
increase
in
the
frequency
of
that
kind
of
reporting.
G
Through
the
chair,
I'm,
not
sure
if
someone
else
wants
to
top
me
up,
but
I
I
see
it
as
evolving.
The
nature
of
our
operations
is
there's
a
lot
of
variables
and
I
don't
want
to
Discount
that.
But
if
you
look
at
winter
operations,
you
know
they
there's
more
plows
on
the
roads
in
January,
February,
there's
no
plows,
hopefully
in
June,
July
and
August.
So
just
the
nature
of
the
volatility
of
our
operations.
G
I
think
an
annual
is
a
good
starting
point,
I
think
as
we
evolve
our
systems
and
our
reporting,
you
know
tools
internally
and
improve
that
technology.
I
think
you
know
we
look
at
that
lens.
Every
time
we
try
and
make
an
announcement
to
our
you
know,
reporting
tools,
our
sap
system,
so
that
will
help
us
give
us
more
flexibility
in
terms
of
frequency,
but
I
think
you
know
year
annually
or
semi-annually
is
probably
where
we
start
and
then
we
kind
of
grow
from
there.
I
I
So
on
page
32
of
the
draft
capital
budget,
where
this
project
or
this
program
is
listed
out,
I'm
interested
to
understand,
I,
guess
the
financing
piece
specifically
this
year,
the
request
from
staff
is
for
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
come
from
the
tax
supported,
dedicated
stream.
However,
we're
going
to
borrow
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
against
debt
with
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
sitting
in
an
account
for
this
project
or
program.
G
So
through
the
chair,
I'll
speak
to
the
financial
side
and
I'll,
let
staff
other
staff
kind
of
speak
to
the
use
of
the
money
and
the
on
spent
Works
in
progress.
So
basically
you
know
when
we
look
at
our
overall
tax
supported
debt.
We
try
and
leverage
leverage
it
to
to
assets
that
have
a
longer
life,
so
we
prefer
to
put
debt
on
a
30-year
asset
or
a
40-year
asset
versus
a
10
or
15-year
asset,
because
it's
just
more
more
financially
viable
to
do
that.
G
AF
Sure
I'm
not
sure
if
this
helps
out,
but
basically
we
use
the
that
rural
Natural
Area
funding
to
support
our
ongoing
Acquisitions
of
rural
properties
as
opportunities
arise
so
and
work
towards
sort
of
the
stewardship
and
management
of
those
lens
once
they
come
under
City
ownership.
So
if
you'd
like
more
information
on
how
we
do
that,
my
colleague,
Nick
Stowe,
who
isn't
available
today,
we
can
meet
with
you
sort
of
offline
and
talk
more
about
that.
If
you'd,
like
thanks.
AF
Well,
it's
you
it's
natural
areas,
usually,
so
it
could
be
significant
Wetlands.
It
could
be
things
that
we
would
consider
as
sort
of
significant
Woodlands.
It
could
be
areas.
You
know
antsy
areas,
areas
of
natural
and
scientific
interests.
Things
like
that,
so
we've
done
mapping
exercises
on
how
to
on
on
basically
Corridor
mapping
so
that
we
have,
you
know
connected
areas
across
natural
areas
across
the
landscape
in
our
rural
area
and
those
would
be
the
kind
of
lands
that
we'd
be
looking
at.
V
Thank
you.
I
have
four
questions,
I.
Think.
First,
one
is
so
what
I
understand
in
this
budget
is
there's
really
only
an
increase
of
2.6
x
FTE
am
I.
Do
I
first
of
all,
do
I
have
that
right.
It's
what
I
see
at
the
bottom
of
one
of
these
category
headings
for
this
committee
is
a
total
increase
in
FTE.
F
is
2.66.
G
V
Yeah,
okay,
maybe
I'm
missing
a
chart.
I
was
cutting
and
pasting
various
ones,
but
anyways.
Okay,
that's
fine!
My
question
is
you
know,
last
year's
environment
committee
I
think
we
had
10,
if
not
more,
presentations
on
groups
that
wanted
to
get
out
there
and
and
pull
out
dog
strangling
Vine
and
noxious
weeds.
If
you
recall
who
don't
seem
to
have
that
group
here
this
year,
but
we
did
talk
a
little
bit
about
having
more
of
a
coordinated
way
of
going
about.
V
You
know
using
people
really
to
do
some
of
the
work
we
could
get
done
and
my
understanding
is.
We
would
need
a
coordinator
position
at
the
city
to
do
that.
Is
there
any
thought
about
that?
Not
in
this
budget
or
how
we
would
do
it?
I
think
Andrea
was
saying
that
temporary
staff
there's
also
that
worked
into
this
budget.
Is
there
any
conversations?
Are
there
any
conversations
around
that
for
groups
that
could
do
some
of
the
work?
We
would
like
to
get
done.
G
Through
the
chair,
so
I
would
say:
yes,
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
the
Departments
want
to
entertain
that
resource,
that's
where
they
come
to
my
team
and
and
we
can
establish
that
temporary
funding
in
the
year
if
we
identify
a
source
I
think
that's
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
collectively
as
a
team
to
see
okay.
How
do
we
find
that
right
resource
for
that
coordination?
So
I
think
we
need
to
coordinate
ourselves
to
find
that
coordinator
to
do
that.
Work.
V
I,
just
I'd
like
to
start
that
conversation
more
seriously.
I
guess
I
mean
now
or
right
at
this
budget,
but
I
would
like
to
look
at
how
we
could
possibly
do
that
because
I
know
there's
so
many
groups
that
would
just
like
to
have
someone
coordinate
them,
and
then
they
could
be
safely
doing
things
that
we
maybe
aren't
getting
to
or
don't
have
staff
to
do.
V
V
All
of
that
is
has
under
the
category
heading
of
hydro,
Ottawa
and
I
know:
Hydro
Ottawa
has
many
other
ideas,
including
billing,
and
how
they
could
work
with
us
in
terms
of
changing
our
billing
structure
because
they
have
billing
and
Communications.
But
what
do
we
see
a
way,
an
easy
way
for
hydro
Ottawa
to
come
in
and
talk
to
us
because
the
mayor's
talking
about
an
innovation
technology
table?
We
have
the
you
know
this
working
group
on
on
programs
and
services
line
by
line
budget
review.
G
V
Okay,
well
I
would
like,
like
others,
ideas
on
that,
how
that
might
work
because
I,
you
know
I,
think
about
putting
forward
emotion,
saying
that
Hydro
Ottawa
needs
to
be
involved
at
every
level
wherever
there
is
a
climate
change,
resiliency
conversation
or
Energy
savings
conversation
or
efficiencies.
Whatever
it
looks
like
you
know,
we
have
motions,
come
forward
sort
of
all
over
the
place,
but
not
really
a
coordinated
way
as
to
how
we
could
always
be
including
Hydro
Ottawa.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
that
might
be
coming.
V
G
Through
the
chair,
I
mean
I'm
not
aware
of
it
from
a
finance
perspective,
because
I
haven't
went
out
to
University,
so
I
suspect,
if
I
sign
up
for
that,
I
would
be
the
guy
doing
that.
Yeah
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea,
right,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
there
I
think
as
we
go
through
the
next
like
setting
ourselves
up
for
2024
budget
and
looking
to
counselors
for
input
on
consultation.
That
could
be
an
interesting
way
of
doing
a
different
consultation
as
opposed
to
doing
it.
G
V
Okay,
great,
that
would
be
wonderful,
and
the
last
question
I
have
is
also
from
a
delegation
on
the
multi-res
green
bin.
One
of
the
delegations
talked
about
if
we
had
extra
money
that
maybe
that
might
be
a
top
priority.
What
how
far
are
we
down
the
road
of
of
that
actually
happening?
I,
remember
at
planning
we
talked
about
this.
We
talked
about
it
a
number
of
committees
last
year,
but
in
terms
of
this
budget
is
their
movement
in
this
budget.
To
make
that
happen
faster.
G
So
chair
I'll
speak
to
the
the
the
finance
money
that
is
on
the
table,
potentially
that
the
delegate
reference
I
mean
that
money
will
be
reinvested
in
the
solid
waste
we
all.
We
know
that,
there's
a
solid
waste
master
plan
coming
and
there's
a
some
additional
reports
coming
so
I'll
kind
of
lob
it
over
to
Shelley.
AE
Chair,
yes,
there
are
some
line
items
within
the
budget
that
speak
specifically
to
the
Multiverse
strategy,
so
there's
about
550
000
identified
in
order
to
support
the
the
onboarding
and,
in
addition,
some
additional
communication
tactics
in
order
to
to
help
facilitate
the
uptake
within
those
multi-res
properties.
So
later
this
year
we
will
be
coming
back
to
this
Committee
in
order
to
share
the
implementation
plan.
AE
So,
as
mentioned
right
now,
currently
new
builds
are
required
to
have
a
green
bin
program,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
stock
that
that
do
not
have
agreements
at
this
point,
so
we
are
coming
back
with
a
strategy
in
order
to
implement
or
onboarding
those,
the
remaining
properties,
so
in
addition
to
physically
getting
them
the
green
bins.
It's
also
looking
at
some
of
the
communication
tactics
in
order
for
residents
to
start
using
those
green
bins.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
Council
Curry
and
just
on
the
University's
side
of
things.
I
know
councilor,
plant
myself
and
others
certainly
are
have
been
engaging
with
students
throughout
the
time.
Our
email
list
goes
out
to
Carlton
University
Administration
and
students
there
as
well
on
any
budget
consultations.
C
I
think
it's
a
great
idea:
that'll
have
it
at
a
campus
kind
of
separately
and
maybe
focus
it
on
what
the
student
Investments
would
be
things
that
are
going
to
benefit
them
like
bus
service,
whatever
else
they
might
be
using
more
than
your
average
Auto
one.
So
I
like
that
idea
a
lot.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Carr.
R
Thank
you
very
much
and
just
want
to
reassure
councilor
Curry
that
there
are
in
fact
people
that
were
there
last
year,
invasive
plant
species
Advocate
see
that
that
are
here
this
year,
just
in
a
slightly
different
position.
So
that
is
one
of
my
my
questions
was
we
there
had
been
advocacy
last
year
for
that
stewardship
position
and
I'm,
obviously
very
interested
in
finding
out
what
happened
with
with
that
and
and
how
we
can
better
manage
the
removal
of
invasive
plants
in
our
Park
spaces.
R
There
still
is
a
big
lag
in
in
terms
of
the
consent
to
enter
agreements,
and-
and
so
now
my
broader
question
is
that
was
a
commitment,
I
believe
in
the
urban
forestry
management
plan
and
I
just
wondered
how
this
budget
is
addressing
the
urban
Forest
management
plan,
because
my
understanding
is
there
was.
It
was
divided
into
two
management
errors,
the
first
being
2017
to
2022
and
now
2022
to
2025,
and
certainly
as
as
councilor
King
mentioned,
with
the
direct
show
in
the
impacts
of
the
trees.
R
AF
AF
So
we
did
face
challenges
for
sure
due
to
the
pandemic,
several
large
weather
events
and
contending
with
a
very
large
work
plan
that
we
had
laid
out
for
ourselves
with
the
urban
Forest
management
plan.
But
we
did
accomplish
a
lot
of
good
work
for
the
second
management
period
thanks.
The
ufmp
report
that
we'll
come
back
with
is
going
to
provide
a
discussion
around
resources
required
for
implementation
and
then
we'll
move
forward
from
there.
So
that
would
be
sort
of
that.
C
AC
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
one
of
the
questions
that
was
raised
by
one
of
my
colleagues
and
it's
with
regard
to
the
the
public
space
that
we're
going
to
be
installing
a
personal
electric
vehicle.
Chargers
I
think
the
number
I
heard
was
something
in
the
20s
for
2023.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
how
many
electric
charging
stations
are
we
looking
to
install
in
public
spaces
in
2023
and
is
that
a
part
of
a
program
that's
looking
to
continue
those
installations
year
year
over
year,.
AD
Through
you
chair,
we
have
some
work
to
do
before
we
install
a
significant
number
of
charging
stations.
We
currently
have
an
outdated
corporate
EV
policy
and
we
have
not
yet
developed
a
personal
EV
strategy.
So
over
the
next
several
months,
staff
will
be
working
across
the
corporation
to
develop
that
personal
EV
strategy,
including
prioritizing
where
installations
should
happen
and
what
the
fees
should
be
for
the
charging
infrastructure.
AC
AC
U
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
guess,
a
continuation
of
a
question
back
to
forestry
services
and
thank
you
to
my
colleague,
councilor
Carr,
for
for
leading
with
that
question,
and
the
answer
that
you
gave
certainly
had
a
lot
of
foreshadowing
for
the
next
budget
year,
but
just
to
just
to
reaffirm
my
my
similar
concern
that
your
department
is
properly
resourced.
For
what
I
imagine
will
be
the
the
second
third
and
fourth
year
of
your
of
your
next
term
phase.
If
does
that
mean?
U
If,
however,
that
means
that
this
2023
year
is
the
implementation
of
the
larger
plan
to
come
just
at
the
very
least,
these
are
if
this
is.
If
this
here
is
a
planning
year,
are
you
properly
resourced
for
that
planning,
and
will
it
be
effective
enough
that
there
will
be
this?
The
stage
will
be
set
for
2024.
AF
Absolutely
what
this
will?
This
is
kind
of
a
planning
Year
and
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
forward
that
report.
That
I
discussed.
Sorry
through
your
chair
that
we
that
that
I
discussed
also
looking
at
sort
of
our
our
our
sort
of
big
feature
project
of
the
next
management
period,
which
will
be
focused
around
tree
planting
and
what
you
discussed
earlier
around
reframing.
How
we
deliver
our
tree
planting
program,
sort
of
that
how
to
get
to
40
canopy
cover
over
the
long
term.
AF
So
looking
from
moving
our
tree
planting
programs
from
a
more
sort
of
reactive
type
of
approach
to
a
proactive
approach,
also
looking
at
our
canopy
cover
data
and
where
the
holes
are.
Where
do
we
need?
We
want
to
get
trees
where
trees
are
needed
the
most
and
considering
how
we're
going
to
approach
that
we
hope
we
want
to
take
an
equity
approach
to
that
and
because
we're
our
commitment
under
the
official
plan
is
to
have
40
equitably
across
the
urban
area.
AF
AF
Planting
strategy
is
that
we
plan
to
do
it
in
stages
so
that
it
isn't
going
to
be
something
that
takes
five
years
and
then
we
say:
here's
all
the
changes
it
we'd
like
to
do
it
in
pieces
so
that
we
can
make
those
changes
quicker
as
we
go
through
them.
So
as
we
plan
that
out
we'll
be
coming
back
with
each
sort
of
solution
to
move
those
things
forward
which
may
have
pressures
associated
with
them
as
well.
Thank.
U
You
and
just
a
quick
little
follow-up.
You
know
if,
with
the
understanding
that
the
the
success
of
a
lot
of
your
tree,
planting
programs
is
the
relationship
between
forestry
and
residents,
for
example,
with
the
the
trees
and
Trust
program
I'm
sure
there
are
other
similar
programs
that
involve
participation
with
residents.
Does
your
2023
implementation
year
include
any
kind
of
investment
for
outreach
and
education
of
residents.
AG
We
will
do
Outreach
with
respect
to
the
trees
and
Trust
program,
certainly
when
we're
stomping
in
front
of
homes
as
a
result
of
the
direct
show,
we
will
be
leaving
communication
pamphlets
for
the
residents
to
call
to
have
a
tree
planted.
We
do
need
their
participation
in
terms
of
watering
and
caring
for
the
tree,
which
is
why
we
just
maybe
don't
automatically
plant
at
this
point.
F
Is
that
we're
trying
to
get
people
out
of
cars,
maybe
into
electric
cars
for
sure,
but
but
just
trying
to
get
people
switched
over
to
walking
and
cycling
more?
How
is
it?
Is
it
possible
to
do
that
and
there's
some
any
examples
out
there
so
that
we
can
work
towards
that,
and
that's
why
I
was
interested
in
the
idea
of
the
of
working
with
the
transportation
committee,
because
I
think
that's
that's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
foreign.
Q
Maybe
respond
a
bit
just
in
terms
of
just
the
and
Council
cabinet's
court
right
in
terms
of
the
cross-cutting
and
integrated
nature
of
all
of
this
in
terms
of
how
we
move
forward.
Of
course,
the
the
the
prospect
that
we're
looking
at
is
not
too
not
the
force
or
require,
but
to
provide
opportunity,
and
that
is
also
part
of
the
the
work
that
we
are
continuing
to
do
with
our
colleagues
in
transportation
planning.
With
respect
to
the
local
cross-sections
the
work
we
found,
the
the
collectors.
Q
So
as
new
work
is
done,
we
look
at
opportunities
to
integrate
trees,
cycle
paths,
additional
walk
surfaces,
multi-use
paths
into
those
cross-sections
into
those
projects,
as
they
go
forward
as
well
as
we
move
along
we're,
also
working
along
with
our
our
colleagues
to
understand,
of
course,
where
those
future
potential
Transit
routes
might
go.
So
as
we
look
for
the
the
new
subdivisions
that
we're
developing,
we
look
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
Transit
Network,
an
opportunity
for
Transit
networks
that
are
built
into
those
subdivisions,
along
with
the
active
Transportation
methodologies.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
I'm
also
thinking
in
established
areas
and
I
appreciate
that
the
newer
areas
are,
you
sort
of
got
a
clean
slate,
but
we
have
to
integrate
them
into
communities
that
exist
right
now,
such
as
the
inner
urban
and
outer
Urban
communities
across
the
city,
so
I'm
hoping
that
we're
going
to
look
at
the
benefits
of
that
and
that
when
we
do
our,
for
example,
when
we
do
our
repaving
of
Roads,
can
it
be
something
that's
automatic
that
we
look
at?
How
can
we
do
a
cycle
infrastructure
Etc?
F
Every
time
we
do
these
things
I'm,
not
seeing
that
as
an
automatic,
so
I
think
that's
important.
I
was
just
told
that
Edmonton
is
encouraging
things
like
having
a
rebate
for
e-bike
purchases,
so
there's
things
out
there
that
we
can
do
and
I
just
wanted
to
know.
How
is
that
possible
to
to
look
at
ways
of
putting
in
the
cycle
infrastructure
into
our
environment
budget.
C
Yeah
so
councilor
Kavanaugh,
just
I'll
just
jump
in
and
obviously
we
have
the
chair
of
our
transportation
committee
on
our
on
environment
Community.
It's
very
helpful
to
have
councilor
Tierney
here
in
the
in
our
environment
terms
of
reference
under
number
five
on
our
environment.
We've
got
review
and
make
recommendations
to
council
and
other
standing
committees,
where
applicable,
on
initiatives
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
improve
air
quality
such
as
building
retrofits,
Energy,
Management,
Renewable,
Energy,
electric
vehicles
and
sustainable
modes
of
transportation.
C
So
it's
right
there
in
our
terms
of
reference,
this
committee
can
make
recommendations
to
council
or
other
standing
committees
if
they're
impacting
climate
environment,
and
certainly
that's
something
we
can
do
in
the
future.
So
if
we're
looking
at,
you
know,
items
that
may
affect
sustainable
Transportation,
it's
right
there
in
terms
of
reference
that
we
approved
today
and
I
hope
that
we
do
make
some
of
those
recommendations.
Just
given
the
overlap
of
committee
work.
C
R
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
question
is
really
an
order
for
budget,
but
I'll
ask
it
and
let
you
tell
me
in
the
budget
documents
the
fixed
charges
for
water,
user
fees
continue
to
increase
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know.
This
is
the
environment
committee
that
we
discussed
this
in.
There
seems
to
be
very
little
incentive
for
water
reuse
for
homeowners,
when
the
fixed
charges
seem
to
almost
penalize
those
that
use
the
least
water
the
most.
R
If
that
makes
sense
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
been
any
thought,
you
know,
I've
got
lots
of
people
in
my
community
who
are
trying
to
do.
We
use
water
through
rain
barrels
and
other
methods,
but
frustrated
by
the
fact
that
the
the
fixed
charges
are
so
high
and
I
just
wondered
if
there'd
been
any
thought
on
on
how
that
could
help
achieve
more
environmental
objectives
and
be
tied
to
that.
G
Through
the
chair,
so
a
good
component
of
the
charges
is
variable
which
that's
your
incentive
to
limit
your
use.
The
challenge
with
the
fixed
side
is:
maybe
it's
not
a
challenge,
not
the
right
word,
but
the
infrastructure
component
rate
is
so
Capital
intensive
that
the
fixed
charges
are
relatively
high
and
that's
why
we
need
to
have
that.
G
C
Yeah
I'll
just
say:
counselor
Carter,
something
did
raise
last
term
as
well,
and
it's
something
I
think
we
should
look
into
this
term
around
those
fixed
versus
variable
was
changed
not
too
long
ago
and
so
certainly
want
to
give
incentive
for
people
to
save
money.
I
think
the
fixed
charge,
if
you're,
a
small
user,
that
fixed
charge
is
very
large
compared
to
the
variable.
So
we
should
work
on
that
together
and
bring
something
forward
that
might
be
reasonable.
This
term
of
counsel,
so
counselor
Curry,
I,
think
on
your
third
round.
V
I
just
think
that
you're
happy
about
so
my
only
question
is
on
that
same
thing,
so
we
councilman,
art
or
chairman,
are
and
use
the
word
incentives
right.
So
when
when
counselor
Kavanaugh
was
talking
about
the
bike
lanes
and
past
my
question
is
Mr
wise.
You
made
the
comment
that
we
don't
force
or
require
people
to
do
active
forms
of
transportation.
What
we
try
to
do
is
encourage
and
incentivize
or
whatever
word
you
want
to
use.
Is
there
nothing
in
energy
evolution
in
any
of
our
directives
as
a
committee
or
as
a
council?
I
C
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
great
questions
and
appreciate
staff
presentation
and
answers
today.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
look
to
the
two
motions
that
have
been
put
forward
by
Vice,
chair,
Carr
and
I
know
there.
There
might
be
some
individual
to
sensor
changes
on
on
some
of
these,
so
the
first
is
the
2023
budget
motion.
The
tax
supported
motion,
move
by
Vice,
chair,
Carr
and
I
will
just
ask
if
that
is
carried
and
we'll
get
any
descents
if
there
are
some
after
so
is
that
item
carried
great.
C
C
Thank
you
for
that
and
then
on
the
item
as
a
whole,
as
amended
by
those
two
motion,
is
that
carried
for
the
for
the
budget?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
There
are
no
in-camera
items
today.
Are
there
any
notice
of
motion?
Counselor
King
has
a
notice
of
motion
for
next
meeting.
So
what
are
you
counselor,
King
I.
Y
Y
Electric
vehicle
charging
stations
across
Ottawa
transitioning
from
gas
and
diesel
vehicles
to
electric
vehicles
is
one
of
the
most
important
actions
required
to
meet
ottawa's
Target
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
to
Zero
by
2050.
Whereas
the
city
launched
24
new
on-street
charging
stations,
the
charging
stations
are
at
12
locations
in
the
urban
areas,
such
as
Beechwood
Avenue,
Daly,
Avenue,
Wellington,
Street,
West,
Carter,
Street,
Main,
Street,
Laurier,
Avenue
East,
whereas
each
site
is
equipped
with
two
level.
Two
Chargers
with
which
provide
35
to
45
kilometer
per
hour
of
charging.
Y
Therefore,
be
it
resolve
to
staff,
explore
the
availability
to
use
unspent
dollars
from
the
climate
change
master
plan
and
energy
Evolution
to
fund
the
purchase
and
retrofitting
that
may
be
required
to
fund
the
cost
of
public
use.
Ev
Chargers
in
already
established
parking
metered
spaces,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
this
project
consider
and
ensure
that
a
the
appropriate
duration
and
location
of
time
for
downtown
metered
spaces
is
B.
Y
E
parking
in
these
spots
would
be
restricted
to
electric
vehicles
and
only
while
charging
F
review
the
opportunity
to
align
with
high
performance
development
standards
in
terms
of
its
requirements
for
private
development
to
induce
developers
to
add
EV
chargers,
cost
recruit
up
through
a
preferred
parking
fee
for
Resident
parking
and
or
visitor
parking
at
their
private
developments
of
multi-unit
residential
buildings.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
staff
report
back
in
Q3
2023
on
the
feasibility
and
implementation
of
this
project.