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Description
Environment and Climate Change Committee - Monday, June 5, 2023
A
C
B
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
want
to
recognize
that
we're
on
the
unseated
unsurrented
indigenous
anishinaabe
Algonquin
territory
for
our
meeting
this
morning,
I'm
anticipating
we're
going
to
go
hopefully
not
too
too
late.
Today,
we'll
see
we
have
several
delegations
for
several
of
the
items
for
one
of
the
items
we
have
delegations
other
than
that,
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
light
agenda.
So
the
one
large
agenda
item
so
we'll
see.
A
A
A
A
Thank
you.
The
next
is
the
update
on
the
provincial
blue
box
program
transition.
I
know
we
have
no
speakers
register
for
this
item,
but
we
do
have
a
presentation
for
staff,
so
we'll
hold
that
item
and
come
back
to
it
and,
of
course,
the
curbside
waste
diversion
policy.
That'll
be
the
larger
item
for
today
and
we've
got
I
believe.
As
of
now
eight
delegations,
seven
seven
delegations-
so
we'll
come
back
to
that
as
well
and
then
we'll
get
to
the
in-camera
item.
D
Good
morning,
members
of
committee
bonjour
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
very
quick
intro
to
introduce
the
team
and
then
the
context
for
today
and
then
we're
going
to
run
through
the
brief
presentation.
Again.
My
name
is
Anne
golty,
the
general
manager
for
public
works
and
with
me
to
my
left
is
Sheldon
McDonald.
The
director
of
Solid
Waste,
Services
I'll,
skip
Nicole
for
now,
but
I'll
come
back
to
Nicole
afterwards
and
then
Andrea
gave
Farley
who's
a
program
manager
for
program
planning
in
Solid,
Waste
Services.
D
So
just
a
bit
of
context
for
the
this
presentation.
This
is
really
a
follow-up
to
the
the
July
6
2022
council
meeting,
where
you
approve
basically
delegated
authority
to
staff
to
negotiate
a
transition
period
or
the
contract
for
the
transition
period
for
the
inter
individual
producer
responsibility.
So
this
is
very
much
dealing
with
this
recycling.
D
So
what
we're
here
today
is
basically
to
present
you
the
outcome
of
those
negotiations
which,
from
my
perspective,
have
been
very
successful
in
position
to
City
very
well.
Interns
are
continuing
to
move
forward
through
the
transition
period.
So
with
that
I'll
hand
the
floor
over
to
Shelley
McDonald.
E
To
date,
four
programs
have
shifted
to
the
IPR
model,
tires
batteries,
electronics
and
hazardous
and
special
products.
The
last
program
to
transition
to
the
IPR
model
is
the
blue
box
program,
which
in
Ottawa
includes
both
our
blue
and
black
box
materials.
This
shift
will
represent
the
biggest
change
to
recycling
programs
across
the
province
since
their
Inception,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
on
making
the
transition
to
the
new
provincial
blue
box
program
as
seamless
as
possible
for
ottawa's
residents.
E
F
F
In
addition,
the
regulation
identified
ottawa's
transition
date
as
July
1st
2023
just
25
days
from
now,
alongside
London
and
Toronto,
with
approximately
one-third
of
Ontario
transitioning
each
year
through
the
end
of
2025..
Through
the
transition
period.
Best
efforts
must
be
made
by
producers
to
maintain
existing
services
to
Residents
during
transition.
We
will
continue
to
collect
blue
and
black
box
materials
and
be
compensated
for
this
collection
by
circular
materials.
F
F
It
will
be
critical
for
residents
to
understand
that
recycled
items
need
to
be
diverted
through
recycling
programs
instead
of
being
inappropriately
placed
in
the
garbage.
This
will
ensure
that
the
city
is
not
bearing
the
brunt
of
processing
and
landfilling,
this
material
that
could
otherwise
be
managed
by
producers
in
2022
circular
materials
Ontario
was
identified
as
the
lead
producer
of
response
responsibility
organization.
F
F
The
delegated
authority
served
two
purposes:
it
allowed
staff
to
begin
and
complete
negotiations
with
circular
materials
and
to
the
ex
and
to
extend
the
current
curbside
collection
contract
to
the
end
of
December
2025.
If
an
agreement
with
circular
materials
could
be
reached,
the
report
also
launched
outlined
the
two
options
for
the
city
to
either
opt
in
to
continue
to
collect
during
transition
or
to
opt
out
and
remove
ourselves
from
the
collection
of
recycling
materials.
F
So
the
purpose
of
the
report
before
you
today
is
to
provide
you
an
update
of
our
negotiations
with
circular
materials.
It
also
seeks
a
small
delegated
authority
to
be
able
to
amend
the
solid
waste
bylaw
as
needed
throughout
transition
on
transition
items
only
and
I'll
go
through
what
this
might
mean,
and
the
third
thing
is
to
seek
delegated
authority
to
execute
the
curbside
collection
contract
for
an
additional
three-month
extension
from
January
to
March
2026
for
garbage
and
Organics.
Only
next
slide.
Please
so.
F
Staff
began
negotiations
with
circular
materials
last
summer
and
we
reached
a
successful
agreement
in
April
of
this
year.
Under
a
delegated
authority,
staff
executed
a
contract
with
circular
materials
that
was
deemed
to
be
fair
and
reasonable
for
the
city
and
where
all
other
conditions
of
our
delegated
authority
were
met.
The
terms
negotiated
with
circular
materials
will
allow
the
city
to
continue
to
provide
status,
code,
collection
and
customer
service,
including
bin
delivery
and
customer,
and
responding
to
customer
inquiries
throughout
the
transition
period.
F
The
negotiated
terms
will
see
compensation
for
the
city
that
will
or
almost
entirely
cover
our
collection
costs
for
our
blue
and
black
bin
programs.
For
the
two
and
a
half
years
of
transition,
we
have
also
executed
the
short-term
extension
contracts
for
the
curbside
collection
to
continue
to
continue
service
to
the
end
of
December
2025..
The
pricing
for
c
for
this
extension
was
below
the
threshold
set
in
the
confidential
memo
as
part
of
the
July
2022
report.
F
Next
slide,
please
so
despite
minimal
impacts,
despite
inspecting
minimal
impacts
to
our
residents
during
transition,
some
bylaw
amendments
may
be
necessary
to
align
with
changes
to
the
collected
materials
in
the
city's
current
program.
So
the
example
I
used
during
your
counselor
briefings
is
right.
Now,
film
plastic
is
not
allowed
in
the
blue
box.
It
will
be
required
to
be
an
item
in
the
blue
box.
Come
2026..
F
F
The
risks
include
the
fact
that
all
municipalities
will
be
transitioning
to
the
common
collections,
starting
January,
1st
2026
and
changes
are
anticipated
at
the
curve.
With
respect
with
regards
to
recycling
keeping
garbage
and
Organics
collection
status
quo,
as
we
adopt
to
the
common
collection
system,
reduces
risk
and
impacts
to
Residents
or
collections.
F
F
So
this
is
the
very
busy
slide
on
the
screen
and
Chambers,
but
this
is
the
table
out
of
the
report
and
what
it
shows
you
is
that
the
the
impact
to
Residents
is
one
point:
is
a
dollar
22
per
month,
starting
in
2025
for
that
collection,
extension
that
gets
us
to
the
end
of
the
transition
period
and
for
the
additional
three
months
for
garbage
and
again
Organics.
Only
the
impact
is
77
cents,
sorry
73
cents,
and
we
believe
this
was
fair
and
reasonable
within
current
market
conditions.
F
So
a
slide
dealing
with
financial
implications.
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
point
out
one
more
time,
but
starting
in
2026,
the
city
will
no
longer
be
funded
for
the
collection
of
eligible
recycling
materials
and
will
be
crucial
for
us
to
continue
to
message
to
our
residents
to
use
the
blue
and
black
box
as
much
as
possible.
F
Next
slide.
Please
so
I
always
find
it
easier
to
see
flow
in
a
timeline.
This
slide
gives.
This
slide
gives
you
an
idea
of
what's
to
come.
Should
the
recommendations
in
this
report
be
adopted
as
discussed,
Ottawa
will
transition
in
July
1st
2023
with
a
third
of
the
third
municipalities
transitioning
to
the
end
of
2025..
F
F
by
December
31st
2025,
all
Ontario
municipalities
will
have
transitioned
and
starting
in
January,
1st
2026
Ottawa
will
no
longer
collect
recycling
from
Curbside
residents
and
producers
will
run
the
common
collection
system
once
the
commons
collection
system
is
established,
and
should
we
approve
a
recommendation?
Number
three:
the
city
will
start
a
brand
new
collection
contract
at
the
end
of
March,
2020
2026
for
garbage
and
Organics.
Only
next
slide.
Please
quick
next
steps.
We
are
now
a
vendor
to
Circular
materials,
so
we're
implementing
some
change
management
processes
ensure
in
order
to
ensure
contract
compliance
with
circular
materials.
F
We
will
continue
to
engage
with
circular
materials
and
other
municipalities
to
understand
details
on
the
common
collection
system,
including
how
producers
will
Service
public
spaces,
and,
lastly,
we
will
be
reporting
back
to
council
with
an
update
on
the
transition
period,
how
it's
going
and
what
the
2026
system
will
look
like.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
today.
A
A
G
F
G
F
G
Thank
you
very
much.
Actually,
this
is
a
good
filler,
I'm
I'm,
just
interested
for
when
I
speak
to
my
residents
about
what
is
going
to
be
happening.
As
we
went
through
that
timeline,
could
you,
just
in
kind
of
layman's
terms,
speak
to
what
is
July
2023
going
to
look
like
in
terms
of
this
transition?
I
know
you
talked
about
kind
of
seamless
for
the
customer.
What
are
they
going
to
see?
What
are
we
going
to
see?
G
F
Your
residence
in
Bar
Haven
should
see
no
changes
at
all.
They'll
seem
the
same
collection,
same
bins,
same
drivers,
driving
the
trucks
same
day
of
collection.
That's
during
transition.
What
looks
like
2026,
we
don't
know
yet
circular
materials
instead
of
getting
funding
from
stewardship
Ontario.
Now
we
get
full
funding
for
our
collection
program
for
the
blue
and
black
problem
from
circular
materials,
so
we
are
acting
as
a
vendor
to
Circular
materials
to
continue
collecting,
and
we
subcontract
to
our
current
vendors,
which
are
collecting
the
garbage
today.
G
Okay,
no
that's
perfect,
and
just
well
while
we're
looking
for
those
last
numbers.
I
know
when
we
had
our
pre-brief
on
this.
We
talked
about
the
value
of
education
and
promotion
and
I
know.
One
of
the
key
points
you
instilled
to
me
was
that
the
success
that
we've
had
in
increasing
these
diversion
rates
with
the
blue
box
program
in
large
part
was
a
function
of
our
liaison
and
coordination
with
some
of
the
local
school
boards.
I
was
wondering.
F
So
I'd
like
to
yeah
it's
definitely.
The
blue
box
program
is
one
of
the
most
successful
programs
because
at
its
Inception
at
the
provincial
level,
they
went
into
the
curriculum.
So
it's
not
necessarily
the
city's
Outreach
with
the
school
board,
but
they
went
in
full
force
with
the
blue
box
program
when
it
was
launched
decades
ago,
and
what
this
meant
was
is
that
kids
were
going
home
and
saying
Mom
Dad,
don't
throw
that
in
the
garbage.
G
G
G
There
we
go
got
some
exercise
this
morning.
Thank
you,
so
the
direction
I
have,
if
you're
willing
to
receive
it
staff,
would
be
that
staff,
including
the
new
Solid
Waste
master
plan
options
for
greater
educational
Outreach,
including
exploring
broader
options
for
engagement
with
local
school
boards.
Is
that
reasonable?
Okay,
then
chair,
I'm
finished?
Thank
you.
H
My
comments
stem
from
page
13
of
your
report
and
in
that
report
you
talk
about
I'll.
Just
quote
it
a
few
sentences.
Ottawa's
current
waste
management
system
is
extremely
integrated
and
removing
the
recycling
program
from
the
city's
collection
service
represents
substantial
change
to
contracts
and
residents.
You
talk
about.
The
contracts
include
waste
recycling,
Organics
from
306
000
homes,
2150,
multi-residential
properties,
Parks,
public
spaces,
small
businesses,
schools,
City
facilities,
and
then
you
say,
some
of
which
will
not
be
eligible
for
the
provincial
blue
box.
H
F
Sure
councilor
great
question
for
you
chair.
So
there
are
non-eligible
sources
underneath
the
regulation.
There
is
a
list
of
them,
but
they
include
most
industry,
commercial
and
institutional
and
City
facilities.
So
Germaine
to
the
city
is
our
own
City
facilities
to
have
Recycling
and
yellow
bag
program
where
we
collect
recycling
from
small
businesses.
F
So
over
the
next
two
and
a
half
years,
we
are
going
to
look
at
how
we
continue
to
provide
service
to
those
facilities
and
what
that's
going
to
cost
the
city
so
they're
not
eligible
under
the
regulation,
which
means
the
producers
are
not
responsible
for
collecting
from
them.
So
the
city
will
have
to
continue
collect
figure
out
how
to
continue
collecting
from
them
during
transition.
We
are
going
to
continue
collecting
from
them
and
there's
a
small
deduction
to
our
collection
contract
with
circular
materials.
H
F
F
H
F
I'm
not
understanding
your
question
completely.
Let
me
try
and
answer
it
and
see
if
I
get
to
the
answer
right.
So
there's
a
net
cost
to
there's
an
increase
in
cost
to
collect
through
that
position
and
that
cost
is
compared
to
2021
costs.
But
the
net
cost
to
a
household
to
a
curbside
collection
household
is
1.22
per
month,
starting
in
2025.
H
F
They
submit
so
when
we
submitted
our
confidential
memo.
Last
year
we
took
a
look
at
the
market
and
provided
you
an
envelope,
provided
counsel,
an
envelope
of
what
we
thought.
Those
collection
contracts
could
come
in
a
reasonable
envelope.
In
our
opinion,
the
collection
cost
that
came
back
to
us
was
underneath
that
envelope
by
a
margin,
and
so
we
deemed
those
as
Fair
reasonable,
because
we
had
already
done
the
market
research.
H
H
F
I've
not
identified
a
risk
that
has
to
do
with
not
wanting
to
do
Collections
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
it's
because
circular
materials
has
a
vested
interest
to
make
this
program
work.
They
are
the
common
collection
system
administrator
for
the
province
and
they
are
paid
by
producers
to
help
them
meet
their
targets
under
the
regulation.
If
producers
don't
mean
their
targets,
there's
a
financial
penalty
that
could
come
from
the
province,
so
it
really
is
in
their
best
interest
to
make
the
system
work.
F
C
You,
as
councilman,
said
at
the
very
beginning.
This
is
such
a
good
news
story.
I
mean
in,
in
my
opinion,
I've
been
waiting
for
this
for
kind
of
a
long
time
and
I
think
that
the
community
is
unaware
to
your
point.
People
do
not
understand
overall
across
Ontario
how
good
this
is.
So
my
question
to
you
and
I
have
a
statement
later
on,
but
my
question
to
you
is:
how
what
does
our
education
component
of
this
actually
look
like.
F
So,
as
part
of
our
contract
with
circular
materials,
we
we
will
be
engaging
with
them
to
roll
out
their
public
education
campaigns.
So
they
are
developing
a
library
or
a
suite
of
material
to
help
help
us
bolster
our
recycling
messaging
and
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
over
the
two
and
a
half
years
to
roll
out
Communications
throughout
the
transition
period.
Post-Transition
recycling
education
will
be
mostly
on
the
on
the
pro
to
educate
throughout
the
province.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
My
comment
on
that
would
be
you
see.
The
research
shows
in
general,
whether
it's
coaching,
kids
or
just
general
human
behavior,
that
in
giving
up
people
an
incentive
to
do
something,
is
better
than
punishing
them,
and
so
hence
you
know
when
we
get
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
You
know
I
would
like
to
talk
about
that
further,
but
for
people
to
understand
that
if
they
divert
now
that
the
city
will
then
have
to
pay
less,
you
know
what
that's
what
we
want
to
do
say.
C
Please,
recycle,
because
if
you
recycle,
that
will
cost
the
city
less,
which
could
potentially
then
Cost
You
Less
on
your
tax
bill,
that
that
is
an
incentive
that
people
want
to
hear
and
people
need
to
understand.
I
mean
kids
in
schools,
I
mean
we've,
given
them
all
the
you
know.
This
is
good
for
the
world
arguments
and-
and
that
is
better
for
kids,
kids,
love
that
and
people
adults
do
as
well,
but
adults
want
to
hear
the
financial
part
of
this.
How
why
should
I
care?
You
know
why
should
I
do
this?
C
Why
should
I
go
to
this
rigmarole
of
you
know
recycling
all
this
stuff
when
I
could
just
so
easily
put
it
in
the
garbage,
but
is
there
an
actual
benefit
to
me
so
I
just
think.
Maybe
the
advertising
and
education
campaign
will
be
good
by
its
circular
materials,
but
I
think
the
city
needs
to
have
its
own
clear
messaging
on
how
this
actually
impacts
people
and
their
wallets,
so
I
would
just
leave
it
at
that,
but
I
think
this
is
very
much
related
to
the
next
motion
in
terms
of
that
messaging.
A
A
One
thing
that
I'm
monitoring
personally
is
The
Collection
day
I
think
it's
important
that
we
really
work
with
circular
materials
to
make
sure
that
they're
collecting
on
the
same
day
that
we've
got
our
regular
pickup
of
that
of
that
green
bin
and
our
and
our
waste
stream
having
two
collection
days
in
a
week
wouldn't
be
ideal
for
our
city,
and
so
that's
something
I
know.
Staff
are
seized
with
as
well,
and
the
other
issue
for
me
is
around
the
collection
of
certain
areas
like
our
Parks.
A
How
that's
going
to
work
moving
into
our
Parks
system,
especially
we've
got
the
three
stream
in
many
of
our
Parks.
Now
we're
trying
to
expand
that
where
we
can,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that's
taken
care
of
and
I
know
staff
are
aware
of
those
challenges
and
working
with
the
province
and
circular
materials
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
aligned.
So
thanks
very
much
for
for
all
of
your
work.
A
I
I
A
I
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that,
with
the
implementation
plan,
incorporating
education
plan
for
residents
that
include
a
identifying
barriers
and
challenges
under
our
current
system
and
Target.
The
communication
plan
to
address
these
concerns
and
encourage
positive
participation
in
the
new
curbside
waste
diversion
program.
B
develop
a
response
plan
for
illegal
dumping,
specifically
around
high-rise
buildings,
low-income
neighborhoods
and
areas
that
are
known
for
large
garbage
items
to
be
placed
on
curbs
and
next
to
buildings.
A
J
Thank
you,
whereas
council
is
scheduled
to
receive
the
draft
Solid
Waste
master
plan
by
Q4
2023
prior
to
a
final
round
of
consultation,
and
where
is
the
curbside
waste?
Diversion
policy
is
just
one
of
the
elements
of
the
proposed
Solid
Waste
master
plan,
in
addition
to
other
options
such
as
multi-residential
waste
diversion
food
waste
production
strategy,
expansion
of
the
take
it
back
program,
textile
waste,
diversion
separate
bulky,
waste
collection
and
recycling.
Automated
card
system,
waste
to
energy,
anaerobic
digestion,.
K
L
J
Residents
have
expressed
concerns
with
the
administrative
burden
of
this
recommendation
and
whereas
in
2007
the
city's
garbage
item
limit
was
set
to
six
items
every
two
weeks
and
that
limit
was
not
changed
with
the
introduction
of
the
green
bin
program
in
2010.
The
switch
to
bi-weekly
collection
in
2012
or
the
modifications
to
the
greenbrien
program
in
2019,
and
whereas
the
current
Solid
Waste
fee
for
residents
of
Ottawa
is
130
annually
and
would
be
expected
to
rise
considerably
with
the
status
quo
approach
to
the
curbside
collection
alone.
And
where
is
the
city's
current
average
curbside?
J
J
Whereas
the
transitional
allotment
of
tags
with
no
expiry
date
would
provide
residents
the
flexibility
at
the
outset
of
the
program's
implementation
in
July
2024,
allowing
them
to
better
manage
the
transition.
Therefore
be
it
resolved
the
recommendation.
One
a
and
the
curbside
waste
diversion
policy
report
be
amended
to
eat.
J
A
M
Thank
you
chair,
whereas
staff
of
proposed
changing
curbside
waste
diversion
through
a
partial
pay,
as
you
throw
system
for
Waste
Management.
That,
if
implemented,
would
provide
residents
with
55
garbage
tags
annually
for
curbside
disposal
and
the
option
for
residents
to
purchase
more
tags
if
necessary.
And
whereas
the
proposed
partial
pays
you
throw
policy
is
estimated
to
improve
waste
diversion
by
six
percent
and
extend
the
life
of
the
Trail
Road
Landfill
by
two
years.
M
And
whereas
the
proposed
partial
pay,
as
you
throw
policy,
is
estimated
to
cost
up
to
3.5
million
to
implement
and
is
estimated
to
operate
at
an
annual
1
million
net
operating
loss.
Pen,
ending
confirmation
based
on
the
finalized
implementation
plan
and
whereas,
during
consultation,
the
partial
pay,
as
you
throw,
was
identified
by
residents
as
likely
to
increase
illegal
dumping.
Disproportionately
increasing
costs
on
large
families
and
lower
income
residents,
present
challenges
for
Rural
residents
and
create
sanitary
concerns.
M
As
you
throw
program
outlined
in
report,
recommendation
one
with
a
firm
garbage
limit
policy
and
be
it
further
resolved.
That
report
recommendation
one
be
amended
to
read
as
follows:
one
approve
the
following:
changes
to
the
city's
current
residential
curbside
collection
policy:
a
a
firm
garbage
limit
program
with
an
enforced
allotment
of
four
garbage
items
every
two
weeks
with
a
phased
in
implementation.
Plan
B
expansion
to
the
city's
special
considerations
program
to
include
non-hazardous
medical
waste,
be
it
further
resolved.
M
The
report
recommendation
to
be
amended
to
read
as
follows:
to
direct
staff
to
include
the
required
amounts
for
Capital
and
operating
necessary
to
facilitate
the
firm
garbage
limit
program
as
part
of
the
2024
budget
process.
Be
it
further
resolved
that
the
report
recommendation
3
be
amended
to
read
as
follows:
three
delegate:
the
authority
to
the
general
manager,
the
public
works
department
to
make
the
related
amendments
to
the
solid
waste
management;
bylaw
number
2012-370
to
implement
the
changes
to
the
curbside
collection
policy,
as
directed
in
recommendation
one
and
be
it
further
resolved.
M
That
report
recommendation
4
be
amended
to
read
as
follows:
four
direct
staff
to
provide
committee
and
counsel
with
a
phased
in
implementation
plan
and
Readiness
update
no
later
than
Q4
of
2023,
but
the
goal
of
beginning
the
implementation
of
the
policy
prior
to
Q2
of
2024..
Be
it
further
resolved
that,
in
conjunction
with
the
preparation
of
an
implementation
plan
and
Readiness
update
staff,
provide
a
cost
analysis
for
committee
and
council's
consideration
to
develop
an
exemption
process
so
as
to
better
support
large
families,
Good
Samaritans,
who
collect
garbage
in
their
communities,
low-income
residents,
farmers
and
others.
A
A
A
Okay,
I'm,
not
seeing
any
thanks
for
reading
those
in
counselors
I
am
going
to
go
to
staff
for
their
presentation
and
then
to
the
delegations,
but
before
I
do
I
just
wanted
to
welcome
counselors
that
are
not
uncommitted.
You
didn't
get
a
chance
to
do
that
in
roll
call,
so
counselor
Johnson,
thanks
for
being
here,
councilor
kits
counselor,
Kelly,
councilor,
deroche,
online
derus,
online
and
doodas
online
I.
Think
I've
got
everyone.
So
thanks
for
joining
this
important
meeting,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
brief
remarks
too.
A
Before
we
go
to
the
staff
presentation
today
is
an
important
day
to
discuss
how
we
reduce
our
waste
and
save
money
and
join
the
ranks
of
cities
across
Canada
and
the
world
who
are
leaders
when
it
comes
to
Diversion
and
reuse.
You'll
hear
in
the
presentations
today
how
a
partial
pay,
as
you
throw
program,
will
help
the
city
meet
targets
set
out
in
the
province's
food
and
organic
waste
policy.
Statement,
which
calls
for
a
70
reduction
and
recovery
of
food
and
organic
waste
from
landfill
by
the
end
of
2023
are
an
even
more
ambitious
scale.
A
In
2015,
the
United
States
Conference
of
Mayors
adopted
a
set
of
zero
waste
principles,
placing
race
reduction,
Reuse,
Recycling
and
extended
producer
responsibility
at
the
very
top
cities
across
Canada
have
been
instituting
measures
to
reduce
waste
going
to
landfill,
including
economic
instruments
like
bag
tags.
Mandatory
measures
such
as
material
specific
landfill
bands
and
zero
waste
and
circular
economy
initiatives,
including
extender,
extended
producer
responsibility
programs.
Earlier
this
morning,
you
heard
about
the
transition
of
the
blue
box
program
to
an
extended
producer,
responsibility
model
household,
hazardous
waste
batteries
tires
and
electronics
have
already
transitioned
to
this
model.
A
Partial
pay-as-you-throw
models
are
proven
to
divert
waste
at
the
source
so
that
valuable,
Recycling
and
organic
materials
don't
end
up
getting
buried
in
our
landfill.
Now
we
have
heard
from
residents
through
engagement
over
the
past
few
years
as
part
of
the
Sol
waste
master
plan,
that
residents
want
to
contribute
to
implement
more
sustainable
Waste
Management
changes
to
keep
the
costs
of
Waste
Management
as
low
as
possible.
Reducing
and
diverting
waste
of
the
source
is
one
of
the
least
costly
options
to
implement
in
comparison
to
expensive
other
Technologies
or
new
landfills.
This
makes
good
Financial
sense.
A
The
ministry
of
environment
and
climate
change
is
estimated
that
every
1000
tons
of
waste
diverted
creates
sixty
percent
greater
GDP
and
forty
percent
more
jobs
compared
to
disposal.
I
think
that's
why
we're
seeing
130
municipalities
in
Ontario
have
already
adopted
these
types
of
programs
with
great
success
at
increasing
diversion
rates
and
reducing
waste
going
to
landfill.
So
what
does
this
look
like
on
the
ground?
A
The
city
of
beaconsville
could
backpiled
a
highly
successful
pay
as
you
throw
waste
collection
system
that
allows
people
to
choose
a
smaller
bin
or
less
frequent,
pickup
and
save
money
in
the
process.
Prior
to
that
program,
they
were
one
of
the
biggest
generators
of
garbage
per
capita
of
all
the
Montreal
suburbs.
That
program
has
resulted
in
a
50
decrease
in
Wasteland
field
per
capita
and
a
40
decrease
in
Municipal
costs
for
waste
collection.
A
Others
have
chosen
mandatory
measures
such
as
Metro
Vancouver
and
that
ban
on
Organics
that
they
did
diverted
over
137
000
tons
of
waste
over
two
years
and
increase
the
food
waste
recycling
rate
in
the
multi-family
buildings
from
63
to
90
percent
within
just
three
years,
while
diversion
rates
across
Canada
have
increased
over
the
last
20
years,
Ottawa
is
lagging
behind.
In
this
regard.
A
We
currently
pay
130
or
a
total
of
183
dollars
per
year,
with
all
the
fees
and
services
involved
in
Ottawa,
Solid,
Waste
fees
and
it's
well
below
other
major
Canadian
cities
at
the
highest
end
of
the
scale.
Edmonton
assets
residents
pay
an
average
of
585
dollars.
We
are
very,
very
low
when
it
comes
to
collection,
costs
and
I
think
we
need
to
maintain
that
we
need
to
keep
our
fees
low
for
residents
in
this
regard.
This
is
one
of
the
programs
that
can
do
that.
H
D
For
prisoner
so
I'm
going
to
introduce
our
color
coordinated
team
here
this
morning,
I've
already
introduced
Shelley
McDonald
to
her
left
is
Nicole
Hoover
biennes,
the
program
manager
for
solid
waste,
long-term
planning.
Also,
following
today's
presentation,
we
have
Isabelle
Jasmine
from
Financial
Services,
Roger
Chapman
from
bylaw
and
Regulatory
services,
and
also
nazdamazi
from
legal
services
that
all
will
be
available
for
questions
alongside
our
team.
L
D
D
D
Now,
I
want
to
clarify
also
that
when
I
say
short
term
I
don't
mean
interim.
The
focus
of
today's
discussion
is
on
the
lowest
cost
option
that
will
help
to
extend
the
life
of
the
travel
landfill
site,
plus
reduced
ongoing
operating
and
processing
costs
beyond
the
current
landfill,
and
we've
received
a
lot
of
questions
as
to.
Why
is
this
policy
coming
now
and
not
later?
And
I
just
want
to
elaborate
on
a
few
key
points.
D
D
We
need
to
encourage
residents
to
continue
to
fully
participate
in
our
recycling
programs
to
fully
to
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
requiring
management
through
our
long-term
solution,
be
it
a
landfill
or
alternative
technology
and
ensure
that
taxpayers
are
not
paying
for
recycling
costs
that,
as
of
July
1st
of
this
year,
will
be
the
responsibility
of
producers
of
packaging.
So
there
is
definitely
a
financial
incentive
for
residents.
D
D
D
It's
demonstrated
by
the
white
implementation
of
curbside
diversion
policies
across
municipalities.
It's
founded
in
data,
that's
proven
to
increase
diversion
rates.
So
now
is
the
time
to
adapt
and
adjust.
So
we
can
continue
to
deliver
one
of
the
most
cost-effective
Waste
Service
in
the
country.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
your
engagement
on
this
file
and
I
will
now
pass
on
the
floor
to
Charlotte
McDonald.
E
Implementing
a
curbside
waste
diversion
policy
supports
current
and
upcoming
policy
changes
and
direction
from
the
provincial
government.
The
provincial
government's
food
and
organic
waste
policy
statement
aims
for
70
reduction
in
recovery
of
food
and
organic
waste
from
landfill
by
the
end
of
this
year.
E
Ottawa
is
currently
falling
short
of
that
goal,
so
we
need
to
divert
more
organic
waste
as
soon
as
possible.
The
statement
also
aims
to
phase
out
food
and
organic
waste
from
landfill
by
2030..
This
would
also
apply
to
Alternative
Technologies
in
place
of
a
landfill,
meaning
Organics
diversion
will
still
be
required,
regardless
of
what
is
done
once
Trail
reaches
its
capacity.
E
E
The
shift
to
individual
producer
responsibility,
as
we
just
learned
from
Andrea,
provides
Ottawa
with
the
opportunity
to
maximize
participation
in
recycling
programs
to
ensure
recyclable
items
are
not
consuming
space
at
the
Trailways
facility
and
that
the
cost
is
left
with
producers.
As
this
policy
intends
and
away
from
the
taxpayer,
the
proposed
curbside
policy
aligns
and
supports
these
provincial
policies
next
slide.
Please
this
project
is
a
component
of
the
city's
Solid
Waste
master
plan.
The
council
approved
vision
for
the
waste
plan
is
a
zero
waste
Ottawa
achieved
through
Progressive,
Collective
and
Innovative
action.
E
All
of
these
projects
impact
each
other
support
diversion
efforts
and
will
have
a
cumulative
impact
on
extending
the
life
of
the
landfill
and
deferring
costs
associated
with
signing
a
new
landfill
or
disposal
technology
through
a
multi-pronged
approach.
Another
key
driver
is
achieving
the
council
approved
targets
and
the
climate
change
master
plan.
These
targets
aim
to
see
98
percent
diversion
of
organic
waste
from
landfill
and
100
diversion
of
paper
products.
E
The
proposed
policy
specifically
impacts
one
sector
of
our
waste
collections,
Residential
Properties,
receiving
curbside
collection
Services.
These
account
for
82
percent
of
the
Residential
Waste
managed
by
the
city,
with
the
remaining
18
being
produced
by
the
multi-residential
sector.
A
strategy
to
increase
waste
diversion
at
multi-residential
properties
was
approved
by
Council
last
year
and
rollout
is
well
underway.
E
While
the
last
waste
audit
was
completed
prior
to
the
green
bin
program
changes
and
some
progress
has
been
made
to
achieve
greater
diversion.
As
you
will
see
in
the
settled
study
data
to
present
to
be
presented
shortly,
there
is
still
opportunity
to
divert
waste
generated
by
curbside
households.
The
next
four
season
waste
audit
is
planned
to
launch
later
this
year.
E
As
you
think
about
the
policy
recommendation
before
you
today,
we
wanted
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
current
curbside
policy
and
the
diversion
policies
that
followed
it
and
highlighting
their
impacts
in
2007
15
years
ago,
the
city's
six
garbage
item
limit
was
implemented.
This
has
and
remains
to
be,
the
set
out
limit
for
curbside
residents
in
2010.
The
Green
Bay
program
was
introduced
as
a
way
to
divert
household
organic
waste
away
from
landfill.
E
This
policy
implementation
saw
an
increase
in
diversion
of
seven
percent.
Two
years
later,
bi-weekly
garbage
collection
was
introduced
to
encourage
residents
to
optimize
the
use
of
diversion
programs,
including
the
weekly
pickup
of
the
green
bin.
This
was
the
last
time
a
garbage
policy
was
implemented
in
our
city
and
its
implementation
saw
an
increase
in
diversion
of
five
percent.
E
The
latest
waste
diversion
policy
enhancement
was
introduced
in
2019,
allowing
plastic
bag
liners
and
dog
ways
to
be
disposed
of
in
the
green
bin.
This
was
a
measure
taken
to
alleviate
the
yuck
factor,
which
many
residents
said
was
their
reason
for
not
using
the
grain
bin.
This
policy
change
resulted
in
an
increase
of
diversion
of
three
percent,
while
our
community
has
collectively
made
great
progress
over
the
past
decade.
Over
half
of
what
goes
in
the
landfill
could
still
be
diverted
through
existing
diversion
programs.
E
N
N
N
So
if
households
run
out
of
their
annual
allotment
of
tags,
they
would
have
the
option
to
purchase
additional
garbage
tags
as
needed
to
have
their
waste
collected.
So
this
proposal
ultimately
treats
waste
more
like
a
utility
so
very
similar
to
to
hydro
to
water,
to
Natural.
Gas
households
would
be
paying
based
on
how
much
they
use
the
garbage
program
and
there
would
continue
to
be
no
limit
and
no
tagging
requirement
for
recycling
green
bins
as
well
as
leap
in
yard
waste
at
the
curb.
N
So
the
recommendation
in
front
of
Kennedy
today
is
based
on
extensive
research.
Aslay
had
spoken
to
earlier,
a
municipal
scan,
comprehensive
Community
engagement
and
the
ultimate
intent
of
this
policy
again
is
to
it's
to
reduce
unnecessary
waste
going
to
landfill,
by
increasing
participation
in
recycling
and
green
bin
programs.
N
So.
Lastly,
we
are
recommending
that
Council
direct
staff
to
report
back
to
Council
in
q1
of
next
year
on
a
city-wide
implementation
plan
and
Readiness
update,
and
that
will
detail
how
the
city
will
support
residents
through
this
change,
including
details
on
the
launch
of
a
city-wide,
Communications
and
Outreach
campaign,
an
approach
to
education
and
enforcement
of
illegal
dumping
details
on
where
and
how
residents
will
be
able
to
purchase
additional
tags
and
plans
to
manage
Equity
considerations
such
as
additional
supports
for
lower
income
and
fixed
income.
N
Households
next
slide,
please
so,
as
I
appreciate
all
of
you
have
been
hearing
from
residents
within
your
award.
Of
course,
we
have
heard
a
number
of
different
questions
over
the
past
few
weeks
about
what
exactly
a
garbage
item
is
and
what
items
items
would
require
a
tag.
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
here
too,
to
clarify
some
of
those
examples.
N
So,
as
is
the
case
today,
an
item
can
be
a
bin,
a
bag
or
a
bulky
item,
as
some
of
those
examples
included
on
the
slide
here
and
bulky
items,
just
as
an
example
could
be
a
piece
of
furniture.
So
all
of
these
would
require
one
tag
to
be
collected,
so
the
maximum
weight
of
a
bin
or
a
bag
is
33
pounds
and
the
maximum
size
of
a
bin
is
140
liters
and
that
exists
within
our
current
Solid
Waste
bylaw
and
we're
not
proposing
any
changes
to
that.
N
So
a
bin
can
either
hold
a
few
garbage
bags
or
households
can
dispose
of
multiple
smaller
bags
in
a
bin.
So,
for
example,
kitchen
bags
or
you
know
bags
from
bathrooms
throughout
a
household
and
only
one
tag
will
be
needed
for
that
bin.
So
not
every
single
bag
needs
to
be
tagged
within
the
bin.
So
I
think
that
was
a.
N
That
was
a
large
misconception
that
we
have
heard
so
and
I
just
wanted
to
underscore
this,
because,
as
you
can
see
in
the
example
right
here,
a
140
liter
bin
can
fit
a
fair
amount
of
of
garbage
and
the
recommended
policy
change
would
allow
residents
to
set
out
approximately
two
140
liter
bins,
every
collection,
without
paying
anything
more
than
they
do
today.
Next
slide,
please
so
to
support
the
policy
recommendation.
We
did
undertake
an
updated
waste
set
out,
Study
last
fall
and
the
study
found
that
the
average
household
garbage
set
out.
N
City-Wide
is
2.1
items
every
two
weeks
with
garbage
items
being,
of
course,
a
bag,
a
container
or
bulky
items
so
74,
so
about
three
out
of
every
four
households
set
out
two
garbage
items
or
less
at
the
curb
for
collection,
and
this
ranged
from
76
in
the
city's
urban
areas.
75
percent
in
the
city's
Suburban
areas
and
68
of
garbage
setouts
in
rural
areas
and
the
setout
study
also
found
that
about
96.
So
a
strong
majority
of
household
garbage
setups
across
the
city
are
already
within
the
current
six
item
garbage
limit.
N
The
setout
study
also
confirmed
that
the
amount
of
garbage
set
out
for
each
collection
tends
to
vary
from
collection
to
collection
next
slide,
please
so
five
policy
options
were
considered
through
the
development
of
the
policy
recommendation,
that's
in
front
of
committee
and
Council
today.
So
these
options
were
identified
through
the
solid
waste
Master
plans,
Council
approved
options,
identification
and
evaluation
process,
and
they
were
identified
as
the
most
effective
options
to
further
increase
recycling
in
Organics
diversion
from
Curbside
households
and
to
better
understand
each
of
these
options.
We
surveyed
municipalities,
which
have
implemented
different
curbside
policies.
N
We
conducted
a
review
of
Industry
best
practices
and
a
literature
review
of
peer-reviewed
research
to
gain
insights
on
the
benefits,
the
challenges
and
success
of
each
of
these
policies.
We
also
completed
extensive
engagement
to
seek
feedback
from
residents
on
each
of
the
options.
What
their
preferred
option
was
the
garbage
set
out
limit
and
preferred
approach
to
enforcement.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
slide
here,
we
had
overwhelming
response.
N
N
N
Residents
shared
that
unavoidable
waste
they
generate
includes
diapers,
non-hazardous
medical
waste
and
special
considerations
should
be
made
to
not
adversely
impact
those
who
generate
these
types
of
unavoidable
waste
and
participants
also
noted
that,
regardless
of
the
policy
explored,
various
implementation
factors
needed
to
be
considered,
including
how
the
policy
would
be
communicated,
how
it
would
be
enforced
and
how
it
would
impact
vulnerable
sectors
of
the
community
next
slide.
Please
so
included
on
this
slide.
We
wanted
to
provide
some
some
examples
of
some
of
those
or
comparative
municipalities
and
I.
Think
with
this.
N
This
further
emphasizes
is
that
partial
pays.
You
throw
programs
and
bag
limits
are
proven
to
help
reduce
waste,
to
landfill
and
increase
participation
in
recycling
and
green
bin
programs.
So
about
132
municipalities
in
Ontario
alone
have
successful
partial
pays.
You
throw
programs
in
place
and
we
wanted
to
share
again
some
examples
of
what
municipalities
who
implemented
similar
programs
over
the
past
decade
have
achieved
to
help
set
some
context.
N
So
we
had
a
total
of
26
different
municipalities
that
we
had
included
in
this
scan
so
I've.
Given
you
a
snapshot
here
of
those
that
had
partial
pays,
you
throw
programs
in
place
and
these
municipalities
were
included
in
our
scan
based
on
comparative
waste,
train
programs,
their
Geographic
makeup,
but
also
because
they
had
some
really
good
concrete
data
available
publicly
for
us
to
be
able
to
analyze,
which
is
not
always
necessarily
the
case
within
the
industry.
N
So,
as
you
can
see,
most
experience
positive
results
within
the
first
year
and
for
the
most
part
that
success
was
sustained
or
increased
over
the
five
years.
After
initial
implementation,
so
the
experiences
of
these
municipalities
were
used
to
model
what
we
believe
we
as
a
city
could
achieve
in
implementing
a
similar
model
of
your
model.
Next
slide,
please.
N
So
this
slide
depicts
the
best
model.
Are
the
modeled
best
case
scenario
of
what
we
anticipate
we
could
achieve
as
residents
adapt
to
a
proposed
to
the
proposed
policy
change
So
within
the
first
year
of
the
policies
implementation,
we
could
expect
to
see
garbage
tonnage
reductions
of
up
to
19
per
capita
and,
as
our
waste
program
continues
to
evolve
by
year,
five,
we
could
see
up
to
a
28
reduction
in
garbage
tonnages
per
capita.
N
N
So,
with
the
reduction
of
tonnages
to
landfill,
there
is
an
estimated
gain
of
an
additional
estimated
two
years
of
landfill
life
and
the
more
sustainable
changes
will
help.
The
reduce
of
Pardon
Me
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
requiring
management
with
a
future
landfill
or
alternative
technology.
So
there
are
lasting
benefits
for,
for
whatever
that
future
option
is
that
Council
will
direct
as
we
table
further
options
for
council's
consideration.
N
This
fall
as
part
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
so
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
the
modeling
was
based
off
of
municipalities
that
have
implemented
partial
pays.
You
throw
programs
that
have
seen
those
successful
trends
with
city
of
Ottawa
data
layered
in
so
maximizing.
The
success
of
this
program
here
in
Ottawa
will
of
course,
rely
on
a
number
of
factors,
including
how
residents
adapt
to
or
adopt
their
waste
habits
and
consistency
of
proper
Communications
and
enforcement
just
to
name
a
few
examples.
N
There
will
also
be
an
anticipated
increase
in
annual
operating
budget
of
up
to
1.5
million
dollars
and
again
this
will
be
further
refined
through
implementation
planning.
This
largely
reflects
the
increased
costs
associated
with
Processing
organic
waste,
as
well
as
the
annual
cost
to
print
and
distribute
tags
and
continue
our
educational
support
and
enforcement
efforts.
Operating
costs
are
expected
to
be
partially
offset
by
the
sale
of
additional
tags
and
cost
recovery
is
estimated
to
be
approximately
450
000
in
year,
one
reducing
to
approximately
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
year.
N
Five
and
the
recommended
cost
of
additional
tags
is
three
dollars
per
tag,
which
is
reflective
of
full
cost
recovery
for
disclosing
of
an
item
of
garbage,
and
while
additional
tags
will
be
available
for
purchase,
the
program
is
not
intended
to
drive
up
garbage
costs
for
residents.
Ultimately,
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
proposal
is
encourage
all
households
to
make
full
use
of
the
existing
diversion
programs
that
are
in
place,
ultimately
reducing
reusing
recycling
to
the
fullest
and
limiting
unnecessary
waste
from
ending
up
in
landfill.
N
So
this
policy
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
also
avoid
using
valuable
land
space
landfill
space.
So,
while
I
spoke
to
a
projected
additional
two
years,
high-level
estimates
suggest
that
landfill
the
landfill
capacity
that
we
could
delay
using
with
the
implementation
of
this
policy
is
valued
at
about
1.1
to
3
million
dollars
per
year,
and
this
is
based
on
today's
market
conditions.
So,
while
not
a
true
cost
recovery
or
savings,
it
does
represent
a
significant
return
on
investment
with
respect
to
saved
capacity
when
looking
at
you
know
airspace
from
the
perspective
of
financial
value.
N
So,
lastly,
we
do
not
expect
to
see
a
reduction
in
processing
costs
due
to
lessened
materials
being
sent
to
landfill
for
processing
next
slide.
Please,
and
just
before
I
hand,
things
back
to
you
to
Shelley.
To
conclude
today's
presentation,
I
just
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
walk
through
some
of
the
key
concerns
and
questions
that,
of
course,
we've
been
hearing
from
members
of
of
council
as
well
as
members
of
the
public
about
this
policy.
N
Our
implementation
plan
will
detail
how
staff
will
plan
to
proactively
Monitor
and
enforce
penalties
for
for
illegal
dumping,
and
additional
staff
supports
will
be
put
in
place
through
the
funding
requests
on
this
report
in
terms
of
rental
units.
So
we
heard
a
lot
of
confusion
in
terms
of
who
would
be
responsible
for
providing
tags
to
tenants.
So,
under
the
proposed
policy,
landlords
will
become
responsible
for
Distributing
the
annual
allotment
of
tags
to
their
tenants
and
should
more
tags
be
required.
N
They
can
be
purchased
on
an
as
needed
basis,
and
one
thing
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
as
well
is
that
multi-residential
properties
are
not
impacted
by
this
policy
as
work
to
increase
diversion
program.
Participation
in
the
multi-residential
sector
is
already
underway,
as
part
of
the
council
approved
multi-residential
waste
diversion
strategy
and,
last
but
not
least,
fairness
and
fees.
N
We've
also
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
why
now
so,
as
Shelly
had
had
alluded
to
earlier,
we
we
recognize
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
now
to
extend
the
life
of
the
trail
World
landfill,
but
also
to
encourage
residents
to
fully
participate
in
existing
programs
that
are
in
place
today,
and
this
is
an
important
part
of
our
long-term
solution
in
supporting
that
long-term
solution,
so
whether
it
be
a
new
landfill
or
a
new
alternative
technology.
So
I'll
pass
things
back
to
Shelly.
E
Thank
you
Nicole
next
slide,
please,
okay.
This
timeline
provides
an
overview
of
the
next
four
years
as
it
pertains
to
this
project.
The
top
bolded
items
are
specific
to
curbside
diversion
options
with
the
bottom
blue
items
being
component
of
projects
that
are
directly
related
to
decisions
made
on
this
project
today,
if
approved
by
Council,
waste
collection
would
remain
status
quo
and
residents
would
not
see
this
change
at
the
curb
until
Q2
2024
and
an
internal
working
group
will
be
established
to
work
on
planning
implementation.
E
This
would
include
members
from
our
community
and
Social
Services
teams,
our
bylaw
teams
Revenue,
as
well
as
as
our
3-1-1.
We
would
continue
with
key
working
with
key
stakeholders
to
understand
the
unique
nuances
and
we
would
utilize
our
internal
working
groups
to
promote
the
policy
changes
and
support
Outreach
and
communities
across
the
city
once
developed.
The
implementation
plan
and
Readiness
update
will
come
to
council
no
less
than
three
months
prior
to
the
policy
implementation
currently
slated
for
Q2
2024,
through
annual
reporting
on
the
solways
master
plan.
E
We
will
provide
council
with
updates
on
the
policy,
change
and
diversion
Trends
and
in
line
with
industry
best
practice,
we'll
look
at
conducting
a
program
review
in
2027
with
potential
recommended
amendments,
as
required
next
slide,
please
so
to
wrap
up
we're
recommending
a
partial
page
to
throw
program,
allotting
55
tags
annually
for
households
to
use.
This
recommendation
is
supported
by
comprehensive
data
collection
and
Analysis,
as
well
as
extensive
stakeholder
engagement
through
which
we
learn
that
their
strong
resident
support
for
reducing
the
garbage
item
limit
and
that
residents
wanted
flexibility
in
their
service.
E
This
recommendation
aligns
with
Municipal
and
provincial
targets
for
Waste
reduction
and
diversion
and
I
will
conclude
today's
presentation
with
the
same
statement
as
a
lamb
meant
or
mentioned
at
the
opening.
The
landscape
of
waste
management
is
complex
and
ever-changing
and
by
implementing
a
curbside
waste
diversion
policy
now
we'll
be
setting
up
the
city's
future
Waste
Management
landscape
for
success.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
to
staff
for
that
presentation
and
for
all
the
work
over
several
years
now,
and
if,
of
course,
the
extensive
data
analysis
that
you've
done
as
part
of
this
part
of
this
report,
I
also
wanted
to
thank
councilor
dudas
as
well
as
counselors
former
counselor
Al
shantieri
and
former
counselor
Moffett,
for
your
help
on
the
sponsors
group.
With
regard
to
the
solid
waste
Master's
plan
master
plan
I
do
want
to
now
move
to
delegations.
We
have
seven
delegations
today.
O
I,
don't
expect
you
to
look
at
this
in
detail,
but
it's
available.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
you
today:
Toronto
peel
region,
Durham
region,
Waterloo,
Region,
Halton
region,
Hamilton,
Niagara
region,
London,
Vaughan,
Simcoe,
County,
Richmond,
Hill,
Bellville,
Quinte,
Greater,
Sudbury,
Barry,
Port,
Elgin
and
Southampton
Guelph,
Kingston,
Oxford
County.
Next,
please
Thunder
Bay,
Wellington,
County,
Northumberland,
County,
New,
Market,
kawatha,
Lakes,
Sault,
Ste,
Marie,
County,
Muskoka,
district
North,
Bay,
Cornwall,
Aurelia,
Stratford,
North,
Grenville,
Kenora,
Carlton,
Place
on
prior
Renfrew,
Goderich
and
Dryden.
O
This
is
a
list
of
some
of
the
132
municipalities
in
Ontario.
They
have
some
form
of
user
pay
pay
as
you
throw
system
for
curbside
garbage
collection.
In
almost
all
cases,
the
programs
are
partial
user
pay
systems
similar
to
what
is
being
recommended
for
implementation
in
Ottawa.
Most
of
the
programs
have
a
no
charge,
no
tag
allowance
of
two
or
three
bags.
Bi-Weekly
I
should
also
note
that
a
significant
number
of
the
municipalities
on
Melissa
just
read
are
predominantly
rural
municipalities
or
opportunity.
O
Municipalities
with
large
rural
areas,
such
as
Niagara
region
for
the
municipalities
that
have
green
bin
programs,
which
is
the
case
for
most
of
a
large,
more
urban
municipalities,
waste
diversion
rates
are
higher
than
the
city
of
Ottawa
user
pay
systems
for
curbside
garbage
collection
are
no
longer
just
best
practice.
They
are
standard
operating
practice
across
the
province.
O
Ottawa
stands
out
and
not
having
such
a
program.
A
no
charge
allowance
of
two
bags
or
items
bi-weekly
matches
the
average
garbage
set
out
a
staff
is
presented
and
focuses
the
program
on
the
25
percent
of
households
that
aren't
participating
in
their
recycling
or
green
bin
programs.
Whatever
concerns
there
might
be
about
illegal
dumping
have
been
shown
in
other
municipalities
to
be
manageable,
through
enforcement
and
promotion
and
education,
and
particularly
perhaps
in
targeted
promotion
and
education
and
are
limited.
The
impacts
are
limited
in
the
early
months
of
program
implementation.
O
Any
concerns
about
the
impact
on
lower
and
larger
fam,
lower
income
and
larger
families
can
be
addressed
in
the
implementation
strategy
plan
for
q1
2024.
The
staff
will
be
working
on,
for
example,
the
city
could
facilitate
through
existing
social
services
and
Community
channels.
The
sharing
of
unused
tags,
a
user
paste
system
will
divert
more
material
by
incentivizing
participation
in
the
recycling
green
bin
programs.
A
user
Pace
system
will
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
sent
to
Trail
Road.
O
Enhanced
waste
diversion
and
reduced
waste
disposal
have
been
experienced
in
all
municipalities
with
the
user
pay
program
and
will
be
the
experience
in
Ottawa.
Wastewatch
autoware
urges
you
to
adopt
the
recommendations
of
the
staff
report
and
specifically
approve
a
no
charge
limit
of
two
items
or
bags
bi-weekly.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
P
O
I
I
dare
not
go
into
that.
Well,
it's
a
very
important
question.
Why
we're
so
behind
on
this
I
mean
oftenberg
was
a
leader
in
this
in
1987,
Ottawa
was
the
third
municipality
in
the
world,
along
with
Napier
and
Gloucester,
to
implement
a
blue
box
recycling
program.
The
first
was
Kitchener.
The
second
was
was
Mississauga
in
1987
Auto
in
the
piano
glossary.
So
we
were
leaders
at
that
particular
time.
O
We
kind
of
lost
our
way.
I
think
we
lost
our
way
with
plasco.
We
spent
10
years
not
really
focusing
on
diversion
or
Organics
and
did
very
little
and
now
here
we
are
playing
catch-up.
I
mean,
frankly,
a
lot
of
the
municipalities
on
that
list
have
had
user
paper
programs
for
20
or
30
years,
Carlton
Place,
they
say
30
years,
Kingston
I,
know
I
think
is
1999
Niagara
in
1996.,
so
I
I
can't
answer
the
question.
P
O
O
There
is
a
initially
I
think
legitimate
concern
that
there
could
be
some
illegal
dumping,
but
there's
always
been
a
certain
amount
of
that
anywhere
and
anyway,
and
it
might
be
a
bit
of
a
an
extra
you
know
concern
initially,
but
after
the
first
six
months
or
so,
this
goes
away.
I
think
we're
proactive,
Promotional
and
education
enforcement
for
sure
I
heard
stories
of
some
municipalities
when
they
were
finding
a
bag
dumped
into
a
back,
Concession
Road,
ditch
would
open
it
find
an
envelope.
O
Excuse
me,
sir.
Excuse
me
ma'am.
We
found
something
with
yours
in
the
ditch.
You
only
need
to
do
this.
A
few
times
before.
Word
gets
out
that
this
is
not
acceptable
practice.
So
yes,
enforcement's
important,
but
generally.
This
is
something
you
need
to
focus
on
in
the
first
months
of
the
program,
not
in
the
long
term.
Q
Thank
you
for
coming
out
today
and
your
delegation
I
by
the
way
I
voted
against
plasco
because
it
was
never
a
real
established
technology.
It
was
a
failed
science
experiment.
Would
you
support
high
efficiency
energy
to
waste
if
that
became
a
plan
in
the
future
rather
than
building
garbage
mountains
all
over
our
city
forever.
O
It's
clearly
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
waste
plan
and
staff
have
always
been
very
candid
that
that
incineration
or
waste
from
energy
is
in
fact
on
the
list
that
needs
to
be
considered
for
residuals
materials
management.
So,
yes,
it
has
to
be
on
the
list.
It
should
be
I
think,
frankly,
we
need
to
put
way
more
energy
into
diverting
Organics
for
the
climate
change
reasons
we've
mentioned,
and
the
waste
quantity
and
we've
mentioned
as
well.
The
the
concerns
about
the
Trailwood
landfill
site,
I.
O
Think,
frankly,
if
we
up
our
game
and
we
get
to
these
kind
of
diversion
rates,
we
can
spin
out
the
life
expectancy
of
Trail
Road
Long
beyond
the
life
expectancy.
Of
of
that.
We
currently
have
and
I
think
that's
the
focus
we
should
put
on
and
then
at
the
end,
I
mean.
Ideally,
we
may
find
when
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
path
that
there's
nothing
really
left
to
burn.
O
If
we
move
all
the
Organics
out,
if
we
remove
the
Plastics
out
through
recycling,
the
the
economic
efficiencies
of
energy
from
where
you
start
to
take
a
major
hit
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
keep
it
on
the
list
for
consideration.
But
it's
not
a
direction
we
should
be.
We
should
be
pursuing
aggressively
okay,.
Q
H
No
landfills
have
been
eliminated
due
to
these
programs.
We
already
have
a
diversion
program.
It's
called
blue
bin
black
bin
green
bin
and
we're
worried
about
the
contents
of
these
programs
going
to
our
landfill.
So
we
already
have
a
diversion
program.
It's
just
not
fully
subscribed
or
utilized.
That's
the
problem
that
we
have
in
Auto,
we've
identified
it
for
years
and
we
struggle
to
figure
out
how
to
get
the
people
on
board
at
our
residents
on
board.
So
I
think.
H
The
key
thing
that
comes
down
for
me
is:
if
we're
going
to
spend
time
and
effort
on
tackling
diversion,
do
you
educate
and
promote
the
public
on
programs
that
already
exist
and
the
benefits
of
using
them
and
why
it's
more
costly
for
all
involved
not
to
versus
going
down
the
road
of
a
pay
per
use
system
and
the
ramifications
just
on
dumping
in
River
Ward?
Almost
every
Park
is
a
recipient
of
dumping.
H
Excessive
household
dumping,
our
NCC
Woods,
are
routinely
filled
with
household
waste,
let
alone
Industrial
Waste
that
we
find
ditches
dead,
end
corridors,
Mooney's,
Bay,
commercial
dumpsters
that
are
continuously
used.
Owners
have
to
padlock
and
put
cameras
because
of
dumping
and
schools
that
all
recipients,
these
aren't
people
who
are
driving
from
municipalities
outside
of
Ottawa.
These
are
our
own
residents
who
either
don't
have
storage
facilities
to
keep
their
garbage
contained
until
garbage
day
or
they
just
don't
want
to
keep
it
and
dumping
is
a
very
real
problem
that
we
have
that
just
doesn't
go
away.
H
M
M
Thank
you
very
much,
and
do
you
know
how
large
the
the
town
is
itself
in
square
kilometers?
Absolutely
no
idea!
That's
a
guy
I
did
a
quick
Google
search,
so
we
can
take
it
for
what
it's
worth,
but
Carlton
Place
is
approximately
nine
square.
Kilometers
city
of
Ottawa
is
almost
2
800.
My
word
alone
is
more
than
700
square
kilometers.
M
The
challenge
that
I
have
when
we
talk
about
dumping
and
perhaps
a
very
small
town
with
approximately
half
the
number
of
residents
that
my
ward
has
was
successful
in
eliminating
dumping
is
because
they
have
a
very
small
area
that
they
have
to
police.
Rural
Ottawa
is
extremely
vast
and
dumping
is
just
going
to
continue,
which
is
why
I
oppose
any
kind
of
bag
tag,
Solutions
and
I
think
going
forward.
M
It's
important
that
we
have
context
when
we
provide
examples
and
I
think
it's
a
good
one
to
have
and
I
appreciate
the
conversation,
but
there
are
vast
differences
in
some
of
these
municipalities
to
Ottawa
I.
Think
it's
something
that
we
should
highlight
here.
So
no
direct
question
other
than
the
ones
I
post
to
the
delegate.
Thank.
A
O
If
there
were,
you
know
examples
where
people
were
complaining.
Exorbitant
amounts
of
illegal
dumping
associated
with
the
back
tag
really
couldn't
find.
It
partly
I.
Think
that's
because
these
programs
have
been
around
for
such
a
long
period
of
time,
but
there
needs
to
be
some
enforcement
for
sure,
and
it
seems
the
staff
have
recognized
that
and
there's
some
some
extra
dollars
associated
with
that
and
with
promotion
and
education
as
well
and
definitely
parks
are
a
problem.
But
I
would
argue
that
the
collection
system
in
Parks
right
now
is
not
really
adequate.
O
A
A
R
R
We
have
been
involved
with
the
solid
waste
Master
planning
process
from
from
day
one
for
the
last
four
years
or
so
so.
We're
very.
Our
members
are
very
well
acquainted
with
this
proposal
going
forward
and
we
very
much
support
it.
We
support
the
principle
of
pay
for
pain,
people
paying
for
garbage
and
we
we
support
the
specific
proposal,
that's
on
our
on
on
our
table
today.
R
So
we
we
really
think
that
it's
probably
the
biggest
lever
that
Municipal
governments
have
to
to
reduce,
to
reduce,
to
have
residents,
reduce
their
garbage
and
also
to
incentivize
their
participation
in
both
Recycling
and
composting
options,
and
it's
a
proven
strategy.
As
has
been
said
earlier,
you
know,
132
Ontario
municipalities
are
already
implemented.
R
Implementing
these
policies,
both
partial
pay,
as
you
throw
and
also
full,
which
is
full
pay
as
you
throw
policies
which
goes
even
a
step
further,
and
many
of
these
has,
as
has
been
mentioned,
they've
been
going
on
for
decades,
and
those
municipalities,
specifically
the
ones
that
have
green
bin
systems
in
place,
offering
an
option
to
to
garbage
they.
They
tend
to
have
much
higher
Residential
Waste
diversion
rates
than
Ottawa,
bringing
in
the
international
experience.
R
R
The
Five-Year,
28
percent
reduction
that
is
being
proposed
here.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
it.
It
seems
very
opportune
at
this
time
to
be
talking
about
this.
Last
week,
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
at
the
world
circular
economy
Forum
in
Helsinki,
and
this
this
is
a
this
is
a
forum
that
brings
together
experts
on
environment,
Waste,
Management,
circular
economy
from
all
over
the
world,
and
there's
total
consensus
on
the
absolute
need
for
financial
mechanisms.
R
Financial
levers
of
all
of
All
Sorts
for
solving
our
waste
problem
and
a
pollution
problem.
You
know
so,
just
as
we
heard
earlier
this
morning
about
the
IPR
epr,
you
know
system
that
is
coming
into
play
in
Ontario,
which
is
aiming
to
really
put
the
onus
on
producers
of
waste
to
pay
up
to
to
take
financial
responsibility
for
their
waste
at
the
end.
At
the
end
of
the
line,
this
is
another
example
of
the
yes
really.
R
R
Okay,
sorry,
but
just
to
say
that
that
the
the
the
the
resistance
will
will
over
time
be
alade,
and
we
really
think
that
it's
very
important
to
go
one
step
further
and
and
and
that
Ottawa
move
to
a
full
pay
as
you
throw
system,
because
we'll
we'll
need
to
have
even
greater
diversion
and
waste
reduction.
Okay,.
Q
Q
And
thank
you
for
your
very
candid
answer.
So
I
I
think
we're
all
in
a
position
where
we
do
want
to
see
more
diversion
for
sure.
Without
doubt,
we
all
feel
the
same
way
but
there's
reality
and
then
there's
the
real
world
and
we
see
many
incineration
systems
that
actually
give
off
less
ghgs
than
literally
bearing
a
bag
of
garbage.
So
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
firm
in
what
the
position
is
of
cafes,
because
we
can't
keep
building
garbage
mountains
forever.
Q
A
Q
R
R
Now,
of
course,
we
are
running
into
a
crisis,
there's
no
more
room
for
these
landfills,
so
so
this
is
why
we
need
to
put
all
hands
on
deck
and
the
vision
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
is
indeed
using
the
waste
hierarchy
and
prioritizing
reduction,
but
we
need
to
put
that
those
words
into
action.
That's
the
issue.
Thank.
A
S
Morning,
everyone,
yes,
I,
am,
and
there
is
a
presentation
as
well,
so
I'll
just
wait
for
that
good
morning
and
next
slide.
Please
I'm
the
executive
director
of
ecology,
Ottawa
and
I'd
love
to
speak
to
you
today
about
the
looming
waste
dilemma.
The
solution
that
works
in
full
support
of
moving
forward
this
with
this
partial,
throw
s,
approach
the
importance
of
waste
reduction,
and
then
talking
about
this
being
one
part
of
being
a
step
closer
to
becoming
a
circular
City.
Next
slide.
S
Please,
as
many
of
you
know,
we
are
facing
a
really
critical
dilemma
here,
with
the
landfill
reaching
capacity.
False
Solutions,
like
incinerators,
would
similarly
be
prohibitively
expensive,
as
well
as
emit
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
toxics
chemicals
noise,
a
whole
host
of
reasons
that
we
shouldn't
move
in
this
direction
and
excessive
waste.
This
is
not
just
about
garbage.
This
is
really
connected
to
climate
change
and
the
loss
of
nature
that
we're
facing
from
the
use
of
resources
at
the
very
front
end
right
to
the
end
when
this
is
creating
harmful
ghcs
contributing
to
increased
climate
change.
S
Next
slide:
please:
waste
management
is
the
third
largest
source
of
ghgs
from
City
operations.
The
waste
piles
up
around
our
city
and
also
you
have
the
harmful
microplastics
and
plastic
packaging
which
are
especially
problematic
and
there's
really
is
about
food
as
well
with
a
shocking
58
of
food
produced
in
Canada,
going
to
waste
similar
levels,
I
expect
in
Ottawa
as
well
next
slide.
S
Please
it
is
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
this
dilemma
and
coming
forward
with
solution
and
embracing
it,
putting
it
into
action
as
I
said,
ecology,
Ottawa
firmly
encourages
you
to
adopt
a
partial
user
pay
system,
but
that,
knowing
that
this
is
one
step
of
a
much
larger
solution
that
that
we
need.
This
is
about
reducing
waste.
It's
not
about
increasing
cost
recycling
in
the
green
bin
will
continue
to
be
free
for
auto
ends.
S
User
pay
will
improve
the
current
media,
currently
mediocre
waste
diversion
rate,
which
is
what
we
want
to
move
towards
and
extend
the
life
of
that
landfill.
That
we've
heard
is
so
critical
as
we're
looking
at
longer
term
Solutions.
This
is
a
good
and
essential
First
Step,
but
it
does
not
go
far
enough
and
over
time
we
encourage
the
city
to
be
more
ambitious
and
continue
to
incentivize
people
to
change
behavior
and
reduce
their
waste
in
a
whole
host
of
ways
which
I'll
speak
about
next
slide.
Please,
public
education
and
awareness
raising
will
be
critical.
S
We've
heard
a
number
of
these
issues
today,
whether
it
is
illegal
dumping
making
sure
that
we
are
really
addressing
those
Equity
considerations
and
would
encourage
that
direction
from
counselor
King
around
low-income
families
and
making
sure
that
Equity
is
considered
very
strongly
in
the
implementation,
development
and
plan.
But
in
that
that's
a
reason
that
we
should
still
do.
This
is
making
sure
that
we
make
it
as
Fair
as
possible.
We
Do
no
harm
next
slide.
Please,
user
pay
is
proven
and
effective.
S
We
heard
that
from
Duncan
today
it
works
at
other
Ontario
municipalities,
as
well
as
municipalities
around
the
country
and
around
the
world.
We
should
learn
from
their
example
and
experience
and
take
back
that
lead
position
and
be
very
bold
and
ambitious
in
what
we're
doing
Kingston.
As
you
heard,
has
used
the
user
pay
Carlton
Place.
There
are
countless
examples
and
at
55
tags
this
is
very
generous
and
there's
a
lot
of
space
for
people
to
be
flexible
with
their
waste
habits
and
to
find
a
way
for
this
to
work
for
their
their
home
next
slide.
S
Please
putting
a
price
on
pollution
prompts
residents
to
be
more
conscious
that
Financial
incentive
really
does
work,
and
this
can
change
consumer
habits,
and
then
that
also
puts
pressure
on
on
the
source
of
this
on
companies
that
are
producing
it
on
you
know,
consumer
decisions
really
do
have
a
lot
of
power,
and
so
this
goes
beyond
just
what's
being
put
at
the
curb
and
goes
into
a
more
systemic
change.
Next
slide.
S
Reducing
waste
is
fighting
climate
change,
it
is
protecting
nature.
Meaningful
action
on
waste
management
needs
to
be
rooted
first
and
foremost
in
reducing
waste,
and
this
pay,
as
you
throw,
will
help
to
incentivize
this,
and
there
are
a
whole
host
of
actions.
People
can
take
to
do
to
reduce
their
waste
next
slide.
Please
and
we'd
encourage
that
the
education
around
the
implementation
of
this
take
all
of
this
into
consideration.
There
are
exciting
initiatives
happening
across
our
city
already.
S
We
could
promote
those
and
show
people
how
they
can
refuse
reuse,
repair,
compost,
reconnect
with
sharing
with
neighbors
Embrace
second-hand
Marketplace,
buy
nothing
groups,
buy
plastic,
free
and
then
recycling
as
a
last
step
in
that
move
to
being
a
circular
household
in
a
circular
City.
These
are
new.
This
isn't
even
the
whole
list,
they're
countless
more
and
my
last
slide.
Please.
S
This
is
there's,
as
I
mentioned,
a
close
connection
between
waste
and
climate
change.
Moving
to
user
pay
system
is
not
the
only
solution.
It's
one
part
of
becoming
a
circular
city
which
has
strong
financial
incentives
as
well
as
others,
and
so
we
do
need
to
move
from
a
take
make
waste
to
a
circular
model
and
we
encourage
Ottawa
to
today
Embrace
this
pay
as
you
throw
model
and
move
towards
that
in
really
bold
and
ambitious
ways.
Okay,.
Q
Yes,
counselor
Tierney,
hey!
Thank
you,
chairman
aard.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
today.
You
know
it's
funny.
I
look
at
our
journey
and
I've
been
on
Council
since
2010.
That's
why
I
have
a
lot
of
gray
hair,
but
that
being
said,
I
I
I
feel
we
haven't
done
what
we
should
have
done
over
many
many
years
to
make
sure
we
got
those
diversion
Targets
in
place
and
I
just
want
to
know:
ecology,
Ottawa
stance
on
waste
to
energy
versus
bearing
garbage
bags.
S
Absolutely
so
our
stance
would
be
against
incineration.
Are
we-
and
this
is
for
a
number
of
reasons-
one
is
the
harmful
ghgs
that
are
produced
from
it.
Another
one
is
the
cost.
Another
is
figuring
out
where
it
goes.
They
have
been
shown
to
be
susceptible
to
environmental
racism,
for
example,
or
being
put
in
low-income
neighborhoods,
where
you
know
who
wants
it
in
their
neighborhood
with
the
harmful
chemicals
that
come
out,
they
worsened
air
quality.
S
Those
are
all
implications
of
of
these
Technologies,
and
so
it's
often
the
more
marginalized
folks
in
a
community
that
that
have
to
live
closest
to
it.
It
also
lets
us
off
the
hook
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
what
I
mentioned
around
how
essential
waste
reduction
is,
and
it
can.
It
has
been
shown
that
to
disincentivize
everything
we're
talking
about
today,
which
is
that
Diversion,
the
reduction,
because
people
think
oh
there's
a
solution,
they're
just
going
to
burn
it
anyways.
Q
Great
I
just
want
to
correct
the
record,
there's.
Actually
it's
less
ghgs
with
the
new
technology
of
incineration
and
I'm,
not
talking
plasco
I
was
dead
against
that
failed
science.
Experiments
then
actually
creating
more
garbage
mountains,
so
I
mean
we're
kind
of
in
a
conundrum
here
and
I
agree
with
you.
We
we
need
more
diversion.
I've
been
a
big
supporter
of
it
for
many
years,
but
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
2700
square
kilometers.
Q
It's
not
like
they're,
going
to
stick
an
incinerator
in
the
inner
urban
area
or
outer
Urban
where
I
live,
and
we
have
other
accounts
of
stepping
up
saying.
Yes,
we
like
high
efficiency
waste
to
energy.
You
you
prefer
bearing
a
bag
of
garbage
than
creating
energy,
I
I'm,
just
trying
to
understand
yeah.
S
I'm
happy
to
answer
that
I
mean
I'm,
making
that
long.
There
are
two
questions:
there's
today's
shorter
term
decision
and
there's
that
longer
term
decision
and
would
want
to
see
the
full
data
on
the
different
options.
We
know
we
need
a
longer
term
solution
for
after
the
landfill
fills
for
sure,
so,
but
in
principle,
would
be
against
incinerator
based
on
everything
that
I
have
seen
and
would
and
and
the
huge
looming
question
of
what
to
do
with.
S
Q
Completely
agree
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem
we
have
is
we
don't
have
everything
in
front
of
us
and
that's
where
it's
a
real
challenge,
yeah
from
a
counselor
perspective
and
the
emails
we
receive,
but
I
do
want
to.
Thank
you
for
your
very
professional
delegation
coming
out
today.
Thank
you.
S
A
T
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
So
the
three
delegations
ahead
of
me
already
covered
especially
with
the
counselor's
questions,
so
far
been
really
drawn
out.
The
key
elements
that
I
was
more
or
less
here
to
say,
but
I
wanted
to
make
a
procedural
point
Sorry
to
sound
so
dry.
But
when
the
chair
opened
the
meeting
this
morning,
he
indicated
as
a
kind
of
like
a
warning
to
everybody
who
wasn't
a
counselor
that
there's
obviously
been.
T
He
didn't
use
this
word,
but
a
flurry
of
motions
at
the
last
minute
on
this
I
mean
a
lot
of
stuff,
so
think
about
it
from
the
point
of
view
of
a
delegation
now,
as
opposed
to
a
counselor,
the
delegation,
people
like
duncanbury,
for
example,
who
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
this
field
operations
policy.
The
whole
business
he's
got
to
Wade
through
all
that
stuff.
In
order
to
respond
because
account
the
the
chair
allowed
that
to
happen.
T
T
We
started
we
saw
together
you're
not
going
to
get
his
stuff
really
because
you've
got
too
much
stuff
at
the
last
minute
and
I
I
guess
there
are
walk-on
motion
and
stuff
I,
don't
know
what,
but
there's
way
too
much
stuff
there
to
for
you
to
honor
the
delegates
who
come
to
respond
and
the
chair
brought
up
to
that
point
to
leave
it
for
delegates
to
be
able
to
respond.
We're
not
we
weren't
ready
for
that.
It's
not
one
motion.
It
was
a
bunch
of
motions,
counter
motions
details
in
it.
T
Basically,
the
staff
obviously
must
have
been
involved
with
that's.
Okay,
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
staff
doing
that,
but
the
delegations
didn't
really
have
a
chance
to
respond
to
that.
Okay.
So
my
main
point
that
I
came
here
which
has
been
said
in
different
ways.
Is
that
pay
as
you
throw
no
matter
what
version
you
have
of?
T
T
T
If
you
look
at
that,
the
very
top
of
it
is
rethink
redesign,
Reduce
Reuse,
it's
not
recycle
waste
management
doesn't
start
with
recycling.
Risk
management
starts
with,
as
other
delegations
have
said,
by
reducing
by
trying
to
persuade
consumers
both
the
feds,
the
provinces
and
the
cities,
and
that's
like
us
to
do
something
about
this
pay
attention
to
what
you're
buying
do
you
die?
Do
you
really
need
to
buy
that,
for
example,
or
can
I
buy
something
that
I
can
reuse
but
I
pair
issue
that
you
can
resole
or
whatever
Kate
even
talked
about
darning?
T
T
There
should
be
no
need
for
incineration
in
the
end,
maybe
a
tiny
bit,
but
certainly
not
the
kind
of
incineration.
That's
needed
that
the
big
companies
who
want
you
to
buy
their
incinerators
need
as
feedstock
to
get
so-called
waste
to
energy.
That's
waste
energy
is,
is
a
is
a
smoke
and
mirrors
thing
to
persuade
everybody
and,
as
the
last
delegation
said,
it
gives
a
message
to
the
people,
the
exact
opposite
of
pay.
As
you
throw,
which
is
it's
okay,
we
can
take
care
of
it,
we'll
just
burn
it
all.
T
Q
T
So
no
it
gives
the
totally
wrong
message
to
everybody
pay,
as
you
throw
gives
the
totally
right
message
at
the
front
end
whether
it's
two
dollars
a
bag,
four
dollars
a
bag,
making
people
pay
it
brings
attention.
Even
this
discussion
today
is
raised
is
the
beginning
of
the
raising
of
awareness
which
staff
has
worked.
T
You
know
they've
been
very
delicate
about
how
they've
managed
this
I
suppose,
probably
because
the
council
in
the
past
have
not
been
too
Progressive
and
actually
thought,
as
you
know,
thought
that
this
simple
facile
solution
of
plasco
Alchemy
was
going
to
work
and
then
they
spent
10
years
doing
nothing
because
it
was
going
to
work
and
it
didn't
work.
As
you
know,
councilor
Journey
yourself,
which.
Q
I,
voted
against
and
I
actually
called
it
a
science
experiment
where
there's
actually
many
proven
Technologies,
and
you
must
admit
that
Edmonton's
going
online
in
2025
with
their
very
efficient
waste
energy
new
incineration
plant.
Many
other
areas
are
doing
it
too.
So
I
I
don't
want
to
complete
the
issue
because
I
was
dead
against
plasco
I,
don't
even
understand
why
we
won't
get
on
that
road,
but
I
just
wanted
to
hear
your
stance
on
bearing
a
garbage
bag,
and
thank
you
for
your
for
your
answers.
We're
very
passionate
about
this.
Q
A
U
Thank
you,
hi
I'm
Philippa
I'm,
an
undergraduate
student
at
Carleton
University
in
Environmental,
Studies
and
I'd,
like
to
start
by
acknowledging
that
I'm
speaking
to
you
today
on
unseated
and
unsurrendered,
Algonquin,
anishinabre
territory
and
I'd
like
to
talk
about
why
it
is
time
to
pay
as
you
throw
and
I
may
not
be,
sharing
anything
that
hasn't
already
been
said.
But
I
want
to
try
and
represent
the
students
that
agree
that
it
is
time
to
pay
as
you
throw
and
support
the
other
delegates
points
as
well.
U
Secondly,
there
are
more
concerns
or
a
more
serious
concern
that
pays
you
throw
as
a
program,
if
not
managed
thoughtfully
can
be
costly
for
low-income
households,
but
by
taking
example
from
other
municipalities,
even
in
just
Ontario
they're,
a
very
reasonable
solutions
that
can
be
implemented
to
prevent
these
issues,
such
as
tag
sharing
amongst
communities
like
that.
Like
that's
been
said,
I
know
many
folks
that
live
alone
that
would
happily
donate
their
spare
tags
to
those
who
need
them
or
there's
the
city
that
you
can
take.
U
Example
from
in
kidkarting
in
Ontario,
where
their
City
A
lot's
1500
tags
yearly
to
local
food
banks
for
those
who
need
them.
This
issue
will
also
be
mitigated
by
How.
The
City
offers
education
and
resources
to
support
household
race
diversion,
and,
lastly,
there
are
concerns
about
illegal
dumping
or
wish
cycling,
which
is
my
new
favorite
term
for
recycling,
something
that
you
hope
is
recyclable
but
isn't
and
how
this
unfolds
will
be
up
until
the
level
of
Education
offered
by
the
city
and
the
organization
of
enforcement.
U
Investigation
by
waste
watch
Ottawa
revealed
that
around
a
quarter
with
whatever
this
number
is.
There
is
a
at
least
a
quarter
of
Ottawa
citizens
that
do
not
participate
in
any
recycling
or
composting,
and
this
is
really
disturbing
I'd
like
to
ask
this
committee
that,
if
you
for
any
members
that
are
thinking
about
not
adopting
pay
as
you
throw,
how
are
you
going
to
engage
those
Ottawa
citizens
that
don't
care
about
Recycling
and
composting
and
how
will
just
changing
either
the
garbage
limit
or
offering
maybe
a
low
ghg
emitting
anaerobic
incinerator?
U
How
will
that
incentivize
people
just
divert
waste
because
I
don't
see
it
and
I,
don't
think
the
list
of
a
bunch
and
I
I?
Don't
think
I
need
to
list
a
bunch
of
peer-reviewed
studies
to
show
or
to
know
that
humans
usually
need
an
incentive
when
they
don't
want
to
do
something
pay,
as
you
throw,
is
a
simple,
reasonable
and
cost-effective
solution
to
waste
diversion
and
public
engagement
in
sustainable
Waste
Management.
There
are
cities
across
the
world
that
have
adopted
similar
programs
and
found
significant
success.
U
It
will
take
some
work,
but
to
not
support
such
an
effective
well-tested
program
would
be,
in
my
opinion,
deeply
irresponsible
because
choosing
to
just
change
the
garbage
bag
limit
or
choosing
to
rely
on
incineration,
even
if
it's
low,
ghd
emitting,
which
still
has
a
minimum
input
required
as
mentioned
and
is
counter
to
our
efforts
here
as
it
encourages
the
facile
population
to
carry
on
not
require
not
Recycling
and
composting
choosing
to
not
pay.
As
you
throw
is
kicking
this
issue
down.
The
line
and
adopting
pay
as
you
throw
is,
is
not
choosing
garbage
mountains.
U
It's
quite
the
opposite.
It's
trying
to
limit
the
garbage.
That's
going
to
landfills
now
so
Ottawa
needs
this
change,
so
I'm
just
going
to
leave
you
with
the
three
E's
that
I
think
will
help
the
city
to
implement
this
very
exciting
opportunity,
which
is
examples,
enforcement
and
education
following
examples
from
other
municipalities
and
consult
with
the
hard-working
knowledgeable
groups
like
we
Swatch
Ottawa
Duncan
Brewery,
an
amazing
consultant
to
have
enforcing
this
change.
U
People
will
adjust,
but
we
need
that
group
of
Ottawa
citizens
that
don't
recycle
and
compost
to
engage,
and
this
is
an
already
proven
best
incentive
to
do
that,
and
education,
education,
education,
Public,
Waste,
Management
education
and
engagement
through
pay,
as
you
throw,
will
be
an
investment
that
will
return
dividends
for
generations
to
come
through
the
stewardship
of
our
land
and
awareness
that
the
waste
you
throw
in
the
can
go
somewhere
and
has
an
impact.
So
please
please,
invest
in
pay
as
you
throw
thank
you.
A
V
My
wife
and
I
are
homeowners
here
in
Ottawa
and
we
like
the
neighborhood.
We
like
the
city
and
we're
happy
to
pay
our
property
taxes
each
year,
but
for
those
funds
we
of
course
expect
certain
services
from
our
municipal
government
among
them
being
proper
garbage
collection
and
waste
disposal.
Now.
The
issue,
of
course,
is
what
counts
as
proper
garbage
collection,
and
in
this
case
it
seems,
our
city
has
been
sure,
King
its
responsibilities
from
all
the
media
coverage
on
this
issue
of
pay.
V
As
you
throw
and
from
the
submitted
Public
Works
document
report
itself,
Department
report,
we
learned
that
Ottawa
is
behind
other
municipalities
in
The
Province
on
garbage
collection
and
waste
disposal.
Other
towns
and
cities
already
have
a
pay.
As
you
throw
program,
that's
been
up
and
running
successfully
for
a
while
now,
and
what
that
tells
me
is
that
Ottawa
doesn't
give
the
impression
that
it's
serious
about
it's
garbage
the
way
other
places
are.
It
tells
me
that
Ottawa
is
far
from
being
a
leader
on
this
issue.
V
It
gives
us
the
choice
ourselves
to
act
in
the
way
that
we
see
fit
if
I
want
to
go
the
extra
step
and
recycle
everything,
my
family
makes
and
consumes
that's
my
choice:
if
I'm
not
the
type
to
support
that
way
of
doing
things,
I
can
do
that
too.
It
just
means
I
had
to
pay
a
little
more
for
that
privilege
and
that
ability
to
choose
gets
protected
through
this
partial
pay.
As
you
throw
program
and
that's
important
to
me
and
I
would
guess
that's
important
to
a
lot
of
Ottawa
residents
as
well.
A
W
The
tour
was
an
early
activity
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
review
and
it
was
led
by
then
chair
of
the
environment
committee,
Scott
Moffett
and
then
Vice
chair,
Sean
Menard
with
City
staff,
including
Nicole
Hoover
bianash
I,
was
at
the
time
co-chair
of
the
Glebe
Community
association's
environment
committee.
Today,
I'm
speaking
as
a
private
citizen,
though
I
firmly
believe
that
our
association
is
on
board
with
everything
that
I
will
say
now.
W
W
I
saw
bicycles
and
deck
chairs
and
fans,
some
of
which
might
have
been
repairable
and
if
I
had
been
closer,
we
were
on
a
bus.
I'm
sure
I
would
have
seen
recyclables
of
all
kinds,
so
I'm
here
today
to
say
that
the
state
of
garbage
diversion
in
our
city
is
not
good
enough
and
that
I
support
the
partial
pay
as
you
throw
proposal,
because
it
will
go
some
way
to
improving
the
situation.
W
W
I've
recently
raised
The
Proposal
with
neighbors,
and
they
get
it.
They
know
there's
too
much
waste.
They
know
that
it's
not
just
about
diversion
too
it's
about
reducing
repurposing
and
repairing
I
urge
City
staff,
not
only
to
explain
this
program
clearly
but
to
vigorously
promote
other
ways
to
decrease
waste.
W
You
may
know
about
the
great
Glee
barrage
sale.
It's
been
an
annual
event
for
30
years
and
it's
a
classic
Grassroots
effort
to
reuse
by
finding
a
new
owner
for
unwanted
unneeded
items,
knowing
that
there
will
be
unsold
items
at
the
end
of
the
sale.
The
Glebe
Community
association's
environment
committee
compiled
a
list
of
20
local
charities
that
need
a
range
of
goods.
W
The
right
to
repair
a
bill
is
moving
moving
its
way
through
our
federal
Parliament.
This
legislation
should
prevent
a
lot
of
electronic
devices
and
home
appliances
from
prematurely
heading
to
landfills
and
waste
facilities,
but
there
are
lots
of
other
household
items
that
could
be
salvaged
at
the
municipal
level.
It
would
be
great
if
the
city
banded,
together
with
the
Ottawa
tool,
libraries
repair
cafes,
for
example,
to
get
more
residents
accessing
resources
to
repair
their
electric
kettles
and
lamps
and
clothing.
W
W
A
You
thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation.
Lcf
committee
has
any
questions
for
the
delegate:
okay,
I'm,
seeing
none
thank
you
for
being
here
Jennifer.
So
that
concludes
our
delegations.
There
is
also
written
correspondence,
six
other
written
correspondents
from
individuals
that
counselors
can
find
in
the
share.
Drive
I
think
just
given
the
time
so
we're
just
before
noon.
We
can
just
take
a
quick
10
minute
break
if
that's
okay
with
everybody
and
get
some
refreshments
and
then
we'll
be
back.
Let's
go
right
at
noon.
A
Okay,
we're
gonna,
get
started
again,
I
think
just
with
the
staff
team,
we're
back
online
on
YouTube
and
streaming
and
took
a
bit
of
a
break
there,
but
we're
coming
back
to
the
main
item
here
after
having
had
delegations
come
through,
and
so
now
it's
time
for
committee,
questions
to
staff
and
a
debate
I
just
wanted
to
outline
a
few
things
before
we
jump
into
that
just
in
terms
of
process.
So
we've
got
a
number
of
directions:
a
number
of
motions
on
the
floor
as
it
stands.
A
Sorry,
just
to
begin
with
at
work
because
we're
at
committee,
all
directions
and
motions
are
on
the
floor
right
now
so
feel
free
to
discuss
or
debate
them
during
your
time
allotment
because
we're
at
committee,
you
can
come
back
on
the
list
multiple
times.
You
just
want
to
speak
to
one
motion
and
then
come
back
on
and
speak
to
another.
That's
your
prerogative
to
do
so,
at
the
end
of
that,
after
our
discussion
debates
we'll
go
through
the
directions.
I'll
ask
ask
if
staff
are
going
to
are
happy
to
take
that
direction?
A
A
G
G
You
know
we're
dealing
with
one
issue
today
and
I
understand
that
the
pay,
as
you
throw
report,
which
is
looking
to
do
very
specific
things,
I'll
talk
about
those
objectives
that
I've
taken
from
it
in
a
moment,
but
for
me,
I've
heard
a
lot
and
you
know
from
the
delegations.
You
know
from
the
content
of
the
staff
reports.
G
You
know
the
key
theme
I'm
hearing
is
that
there
is
a
real
need
for
us
to
extend
the
life
of
the
trail
landfill,
and
you
know
diversion
is
a
mechanism
with
which
we're
we're
looking
to
do
that.
I
know
that
there
are
some
some
options
that
now
staff
after
the
last
council
meeting
are
looking
at
in
terms
of
the
The
Experience
expiry
of
of
Trail
options.
But
friend
from
now.
Until
that
experience
happens,
we
need
to
we
need
to
figure
some
stuff
out
and
I
know.
G
Diversion
is
kind
of
a
key
theme
that
I'm
hearing
we're
talking
about
residential
curbside
diversion
today.
I
know
that
there
is
a
multi-uh
multi-residential
unit,
diversion
policy
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
in
due
course
and
I
believe
that
there
are
other,
you
know,
City
entities
that
are
playing
in
this
space
as
well.
G
So
I
want
to
talk
a
bit
about
diversion
at
the
actual
landfill
site
itself.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
is
that
there's
a
a
fairly
high
percentage
of
the
actual
waste
that
goes
to
Trail
landfill
is
construction
and
demolition
waste,
and
my
understanding
is
that
a
hundred
percent
of
construction
and
demolition
waste
can
be
diverted
I.
Don't
know
that
in
our
particular
case,
there's
facilities
currently
to
allow
for
that.
G
But
I
do
know
that
in
other
industrial
best
practices
there
are
mechanisms
to
do
that,
whether
it's
changing
it
into
Road
aggregate
or
into
fertilizers
or
or
biomass
fuel
for
for
incineration
machines
and
such
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
little
bit
of
an
appreciation
for
of
the
current
waste
that
is,
that
is
received
at
Trail
landfill.
What
percentage
of
that
is
construction
and
demolition?
G
E
E
Seven
percent
of
the
waste
accepted
at
Trail
was
from
C
and
D,
so
commercial
and
demolition,
so
about
15,
000
tons
as
part
of
the
residual
Waste
Management
strategy
that
went
to
Council
last
term.
We
spoke
to
adjusting
some
of
our
tipping
fees
in
order
to
help
encourage
alternative
means
of
disposal
for
some
construction
and
demolition
type
products.
So
you
mentioned
aggregate
so
concrete.
E
So,
instead
of
an
easy
button,
let's
say
of
having
a
very
low
tip
fee
for
materials
coming
into
Trail
by
adjusting
the
tip
fees
for
for
some
of
these
products.
It
may
encourage
alternative
uses
of
that
material
versus
having
it
come
to
Trail.
So
that's
one
strategy
that
we
put
in
place
with
the
the
2023
budget
process
to
adjust
our
tipping
fees
in
order
to
encourage
other
items
now
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Nicole
just
to
speak
to
Solid,
Waste
master
plan
and
other
diversion
opportunities.
All.
N
Right,
thank
you,
Shelly
and
thank
you
counselor
for
the
question,
and
so
construction
demolition
waste,
of
course,
is
is
one
of
those
options
that
we
have
been
exploring
as
part
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
and
opportunities
for
how
we
could
be
managing
that
differently,
as
opposed
to
how
we
do
it
today.
So
some
of
the
work,
as
you
had
mentioned
too,
will
require
some
further.
N
It's
further
analysis
of
our
waste
stream
in
particular,
but
also
the
identification
of
those
different
Market
opportunities.
As
you'd
mentioned.
In
some
cases,
there
are
regulatory
pieces
so
making
sure
that
we're
there's
regulated
approval
to
be
able
to
use
those
as
as
aggregate
as
an
example,
but
those
are
certainly
all
being
explored
as
part
of
the
the
solid
waste
Master
planning
process
and
we'll
be
back
in
front
of
community
council
with
some
recommendations
on
prioritizing
those
different
actions.
This
fall.
E
G
E
G
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
will
end
it.
There
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
I
think
that
there's
a
real
opportunity
here.
If
we're
looking
at
the
pays,
you
throw
yielding
us.
You
know
between
ten
and
thirty
thousand
tons
of
potential
airspace
in
the
trail
landfill
for
us
to
look
at
some
some
good
options.
So
that's
the
reason
why
I've
got
that
direction
there
Mr
chair
and
I'll,
yield
to
the
next
speaker.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
P
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
those
who
brought
motions
forward,
I'm
supportive
of
the
idea
of
counselor
Carr
of
for
the
two
bags
that
we
don't
put
tags
on
them,
but
tags
for
the
others
I
think
that's
that
could
be
very
helpful
to
selling
this
to
to
Residents,
so
they
don't
feel
that
they're
imposed
each
time
they
put
out
their
garbage
and
I
I
do
believe.
We
need
more
education,
so
I
I
think
those
are
very
important.
N
Through
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
counselor
for
for
the
question
so
in
terms
of
the
exact
tactics,
so
that
should
Council
approve
the
the
policy
recommendation
in
front
of
you
today.
Those
would
be
we'd
be
working
through
all
those
tactics
and
Reporting
back
to
committee
and
Council
as
part
of
the
implementation
Readiness
Plan
that
we're
proposing
for
Q4
this
year,
q1
at
the
latest
next
year.
Pardon
me
next
year,
but
the
intent
as
part
of
the
promotion,
education
and
Communications
campaign
will
be
to
focus
on
using
some
of
that
market
research.
N
Data
Insights
that
we
had
through
this
study
that
we
had
commissioned
back
in
2018
and
follow-up
work
done
in
2020
and,
as
you
may
recall,
counselor
that's
where
we
were
able
to
break
down
the
city
into
different
market
segments
and
identifying
the
different
demographic
characteristics
of
those
different
different
segments,
so
we'll
be
using
those
Data
Insights
to
help
specifically
Target
those
Pockets
within
the
population
where
we're
not
seeing
high
levels
of
diversion
today.
So
that's
that's,
certainly
a
focus
of
the
efforts
and
then
we'll
be
back
with
more
of
the
specifics.
P
Thank
you.
One
of
the
points
I've
met
up
I've
made
to
you
before
is
about
parks
and
I.
Don't
think
people
appreciate
that
we're
in
silos
that
parks
are
in
a
one
category
and
that
Solid
Waste
Management
is
in
another
and
I'm
very
concerned,
because
already
we
we
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about,
especially
after
a
very
busy
weekend,
the
amount
of
garbage,
and
it
is
not
diverted
at
all
and
it's
it's
glaring
and
it
could
be
worse.
P
P
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
one
of
the
things
that
keeps
crossing
my
mind
is
that
the
reason
why
many
people
may
not
recycle
or
use
compost
particularly
is
containers,
and,
and
is
there
any
improvements
on
the
like
the
indoor
containers?
There's
there
any
recommendations
that
we
could
improve
could
take
away
the
yuck
factor.
N
P
I
saw
at
fcm
that
they
were,
you
know
they
were
booths
promoting.
You
know,
containers
that
will
compost
right
on
your
kitchen
counter
that
kind
of
stuff,
but
it's
all
I
mean
that's
part
of
it.
It's
just
convenience.
It's
all
about
convenience.
People
will
do
things
as
if
it's
easier
do
we
promote
that
kind
of
ideas.
Those
those
devices.
N
N
One
of
the
things
I
will
highlight
as
you
when
we
tabled
the
multi-residential
waste
diversion
strategy
for
Council
consideration
last
term,
one
of
the
Five
Pillars
did
include
exploring
opportunities
for
piloting.
So
those
are
that's
one
of
the
opportunities
that
we're
looking
at
recognizing.
There
are
a
lot
more
unique
considerations
and
barriers
to
participation
within
the
multi-residential
sector.
Those
are
opportunities
that
we
may
look
at
to
make
it
more
convenient
and
easier
for
for
residents
to
participate,
so
certainly
something
we're
looking
at
within
the
scope
of
that
strategy.
P
X
Yeah
thanks
chair
some
questions
to
staff
heard
one
of
the
delegations
talk
about
and
I
agree
with
them,
the
sensitivity
of
citing
you
know
various
facilities
and
what
have
you
and
for
the
Organics
facility?
What's
what's
what's
the
truck
volume
that
goes
into
the
Organics
facility
at
the
present
time,
and
and
what's
the
projected.
E
A
through
chair
So,
currently
today,
depending
on
the
season,
there
could
be
anywhere
from
20
up
to
100
trucks
that
go
into
convertis
daily
moving
forward.
Once
we
hit
2026
and
we'll
no
longer
be
collecting
the
the
recyclable
material.
The
vehicle
Choice
under
the
next
curbside
contract
may
see
larger
capacity
than
we
have
today
with
the
Dual
streams.
So
we
anticipate
even
with
the
city
increasing
and
with
our
diversion
strategies.
Looking
to
increase,
we
see
the
number
of
trucks
actually
making
a
trip
to
converters,
reducing
in
2026.
X
But
in
the
meantime
we
do
have
the
truck
volume
there
and
and
where's.
The
discussion
take
place
on
upgrades
to
the
road
infrastructure,
to
support
that,
because
we've
seen
the
population
growth
on
that
area
and
we're
going
to
see
some
growth
in
in
in
trucks
and
certainly
in
the
short
term,
we'll
see
about
the
long
term
like
what
where's
the
discussion
point
on
that
for
for
transportation
infrastructure
for
this
area.
E
X
The
next
question
is
on
again
her
delegations
talk
about.
They
don't
want
to
see
Farmers
Fields,
you
know
turned
into
the
landfill
or
what
have
you
other
Alternatives,
but
I
want
to
understand
the
assets
that
are
around
Trail
Road
I
mean
those
are
mostly
quarries,
not
area
like
what?
What
what
is
the
real
estate
situation
around
Trail
Road?
E
One
thing
I
will
notice
that
land
will
not
be
used
for
landfilling
purposes
so
to
to
go
back
to
to
the
the
point
raised.
Yes,
there
are
a
number
of
parcels
of
land
that
the
city
has
currently
and
through
the
bufferland
study,
as
well
as
the
outcome
of
the
master
plan,
we'll
be
exploring
opportunities
to
leverage
those
facilities.
X
You
went
through
some
statistics
in
terms
of
the
increase
in
waste
and
and
how
much
of
that
is,
is
basically
non-divertible
and
you
know,
hurts
and
delegations
talk
about
items
that
you
know
I,
don't
like
seeing
at
the
curb,
but
they're
they're
they're,
not
divertible,
like
they're,
going
to
a
landfill.
So
what?
What
is
the
the
increase?
In
basically
garbage.
N
X
Right
and
do
we
have
a
per
capita
statistic
on
that
I
mean
again
I
heard
a
lot
of
kind
of
criticism
of
the
city
and
indirectly,
I
guess
the
residents
unfortunately,
but
we've
seen
a
significant
population
growth
over
the
last
10
years.
Do
we
have
like
how
are
we
doing
on
a
per
capita
basis
versus
on
sort
of
macro
numbers
that
you
provided.
N
Through
you,
Mr
chair
so
and
a
counselor
I
can
get
you
the
the
per
I.
Don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
at
this
moment,
the
per
capita
but
I,
certainly
I,
certainly
can
provide
that
I.
Think
one
thing
speaking
to
the
actual,
the
the
tonnages
and
what
would
the
tonnages
of
waste
that
we've
seen
kind
of
generated
within
the
city
over
the
past
10
years.
N
You
know
those
diversion
statistics
that
Shelley
had
had
walked
through
as
part
of
the
presentation,
as
we've
seen
some
of
those
the
introduction
of
the
green
bin
program,
the
introduction
of
the
or
the
transition
to
bi-weekly
garbage
and
some
of
the
changes
to
the
to
the
Organics
program.
Those
have
all
been
successful
in
helping
maintain
a
relatively
consistent
per
capita
waste
generation.
X
N
For
you
Mr
chair,
there
was
a
city-wide
campaign
that
was
implemented
in
2019.
It
was
actually
it
was
a
year-long
campaign
that
took
quite
a
distinct,
targeted
approach.
We
had,
on
a
monthly
basis,
different
topics
that
we
were
targeting
education
on.
We
had
the
green
bin
team,
who
is
who
is
out
targeting
specific
or
Outreach
within
certain
pockets
of
the
population
that
we
knew
weren't
traditionally
participating
in
the
Organics
program.
So
there
was
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
that
was
dedicated
towards
implementing
that
strategy,
and
that
was
a
one-time
campaign.
N
X
My
experience
has
been:
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
penetration
of
that
that
messaging.
In
fact,
at
the
time
we
had
people
criticizing
it
saying
that's
this
promotes
plastic
and
you
know
I
think
I
think
that's
what
set
it
on.
Unfortunately,
the
track
that
it
that
it
came
to
which
which
was
just
a
three
percent
uptake
so
again,
I
that's
unfortunate,
but
you
know
I
think
we
could.
We
can
bring
more
people
over
because
of
that
decision,
which
was
a
good
one.
Councilor
Kavanaugh
was
on.
X
You
know,
I
think
the
right
track
with
some
questions
on
alternatives
to
The
Container,
so
presently
there's
no
alternative
containers
that
are
allowed
at
the
curb.
So
if
someone
said
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm,
not
gonna,
put
all
my
Organics
out
there,
but
I'm
gonna.
Do
my
bid
and
I'm
gonna
put
a
bucket
out
there
in
the
morning
with
my
Organics,
so
we
wouldn't
pick
that
up
we'd
say
no,
no,
it
has
to
be
in
the
green
bin
right.
N
Counselor
in
terms
of
the
the
green
bin
sizes,
just
just
to
clarify,
we
do
offer
two
different
sizes,
so
I
know
you're
not
in
council
chambers
today,
but
we
do
have
the
example
of
the
the
80
liter
bin,
but
also
a
much
smaller
46
liter
bin
option.
We
oftentimes
seen
that
being
requested
by
smaller
households
or
so
residents
have
the
opportunity
to
to
order
that
no
additional
charge.
N
X
To
to
the
question
to
to
the
question
that
came
up
by
councilor
Hill
on
on,
what's
going
to
Trail
world
I
mean
if
it
was
red
alert.
Why
wouldn't
we
saying
like
we're
not
going
to
accept
any
non-curbside
waste
that
trail
road
that
can
go
elsewhere
so
that
we
can
expand
the
that
landfill
capacity
and
prioritize
the
the
curbside?
That's
not
on
the
table
that
wasn't
considered.
E
We
can
Implement
that
so
it
is
based
on
on
the
the
will
of
council.
I
will
remind
Council
foe
that
82
of
the
tonnage
that
is
disposed
of
that
trail
is
based
on
residential,
so
whether
it
be
through
our
curbside
through
our
multi-rest.
So
it
is
primarily
the
stream
now
that
we're
receiving
is
primarily
from
residents.
X
Okay
and
and
last
question
just
on
the
consultations,
when
you
consulted,
you
asked
people
kind
of
where
do
you
live,
and
what
do
you
think
like
what?
What
what
are
you
currently
experiencing?
So,
in
other
words,
it
wasn't
a
consultation
that
I
live
in
a
multi-residential
I'm,
not
recycling,
but
I.
Think
other
people
should
do
more.
You
actually
recorded
the
feedback
right
that
you
know
it
was.
It
was
had
single
household
use
compounding
commenting
on
their
own,
because
I
think
we
get
into.
X
N
I
hear
you
Mr
chair,
that
that
is
correct.
Counselor,
so
is
part
of
the
the
more
broader
Solid
Waste
master
plan.
We've
had
a
lot
more
engagement
from
the
entire
population
in
terms
of
the
different
options
that
are
being
considered
as
part
of
that
this
particular
the
engagement
series
is
part
of
the
curbside
diversion
options,
because
it
is
more
targeted
towards
curbside
households.
That
was
the
targeted
approach
for
engagement
as
part
of
this
okay.
H
Thank
you,
chair
I,
wanted
to
speak
to
staff
about
some
of
the
Motions
before
us.
First
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
the
staff
who
work
on
this
file.
This
is
a
significant
and
challenging
file
and
regardless
of
what
happens
today
or
at
Council
I
want
you
to
know
how
much
I
appreciate
your
work.
I
do
think
we
have
good
people
in
the
right
positions
who
are
trying
their
best
to
bring
this
committee
and
Council
the
best
recommendations
possible.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
in
that
regard.
H
I'm
first
going
to
start
with
counselor
King's
motion.
This
is
regarding
the
education
plan
as
part
of
the
implementation
plan
and
looking
at
is
whereas
clauses
I
do
have
some
questions.
So
Clause
B
talks
about
developing
a
response
plan
for
illegal
dumping.
Can
staff
elaborate
on
what
they
think
that
means
so
I
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
the
plan
might
look
like.
N
Three
Mr
chair,
thank
you
councilor
for
the
question
so
in
terms
of
I,
think
I'll
start
with
recognizing
and
I
think.
We've
heard
it
around
the
table
today
acknowledging
that
illegal
dumping.
It's
an
issue
that
exists
today
as
part
of
our
work
through
our
Municipal
scan
and
also
through
literature
review.
We
we
do
anticipate
pardon
me,
anticipate
that
there
will
be
a
temporary
increase
in
illegal
dumping
across
the
city
for
about
the
first
three
to
six
months
of
program
implementation.
N
So
the
recommendation
in
front
of
you
today,
you
will
see
that
we
are
recommending
Council,
consider
approving
the
two
additional
ftes
that
will
help
support
more
more
proactive
education
and
enforcement,
and
there
are
also
additional
temporary
resources
so
up
to
four
additional
temporary
enforcement
resources.
Temporary
and
not
they
would
be
up
to
one
year
to
help
with
that
initial
anticipated
uptick
in
illegal
dumping.
H
Will
you
I
mean
the
motion
specifically
talks
about
around
high-rise
buildings,
low-income
neighborhoods
areas
that
are
known
for
large
garbage
items
if
I
want
to
unload
garbage
I,
probably
want
to
do
it
in
an
area?
That's
not
you
know,
inhabited
or
high
density
residential
areas,
I'm
going
to
the
parks
I'm
going
to
the
NCC
Woodlands
I'm,
going
down
riverwards
dead,
end
streets
that
parallel
train
tracks,
because
there's
no
one's
there
and
I
do
my
unloading.
H
H
N
True
you
Mr
chair
the
way
I
interpret
this
is
it's
using
the
instead
of
broad-based,
math
scale.
Kind
of
generalized
Communications,
which
we've
we've
seen
in
the
past,
are
not
necessarily
effective
means
it's
actually
using
those
Data
Insights
that
we
do
have,
and
in
particular
just
linking
back
to
that
note,
the
hill
and
Milton
market
research
and
being
able
to
use
that
data
that
insight
to
Target
the
direct
demographics
that
we
know
require
some
additional
resources
and
support
support.
H
E
If
they
happen
to
to
witness
in
an
ordinate
amount
of
garbage
and
no
blue
or
black
or
green
bin,
they
will
tag
the
information
like
so
that
the
notice
is
is
there
for
the
the
homeowner
and
basically
come
back
with
an
information
about
here?
Are
our
programs
provide
recycling,
green
bin
bins
for
the
resident
to
use
and
then
monitor
the
next
few
collections
in
order
to
see
whether
or
not
the
resident
is
now
using
those
bins?
So
that's
currently
what
takes
place
today.
H
Thank
you
I'll
just
say
to
my
colleague
who
moved
this
motion.
If,
if
it
is
not
successful,
I
do
believe
that
this
needs
to
be
Revisited
for
Council,
because
there
definitely
needs
to
be
I,
think
more
resources
implemented
to
targeting
those
who
aren't
already
using
programs
that
exist.
So
I
think
this
is
very
good.
H
I'm
gonna
save
some
minor
comments
for
later
park.
It
now
so,
generally
speaking,
what
I've
heard
from
my
residents,
which
I'll
just
share
briefly,
is
no
surprise.
I
think
we've
all
heard
significant
pushback
from
our
residents
who
are
concerned
about
paying
for
yet
another
city
service
that
they
believe
is
sort
of
a
basic
or
core
service.
There's
a
tax
levy
right
now
on
all
property,
residential
property
tax
bills
and
people
believe
that
should
cover
off
the
cost
of
waste
collection
and
recycling.
Organized
organic
waste.
I
do
believe.
H
I
do
believe
that
data
that
I've
seen
with
municipalities
who
have
implemented
bag
tag
or
pay
as
you
go,
does
reduce
some
of
the
waste
from
landfill
does
divert
the
question.
I
continue
to
wrestle
with
is
what's
the
long-term
game
plan
for
the
city
of
Ottawa,
We
Have
Heard,
recently
about
the
revised
timelines
for
our
landfill,
and
this
doesn't
eliminate
those
timelines.
H
It
potentially
will
defer
that
end
date
and
even
Mr
Murray
acknowledged
that
of
the
132
municipalities
that
have
this
program
they're
still
using
landfills,
so
I'm
very
open
to
options
and
proposals
that
divert
waste
because
I,
absolutely
believe,
Re-Use
or
sorry
reduce
is
our
should
be
our
number
one
objective
and
we
have
effective
programs
right
now.
Blue
black
and
green
bin
programs,
which
should
be
diverting,
should
be
diverting
very
high
numbers,
because
what
you
have
left
to
throw
away
chair
should
be
very
very
little
and
the
timelines
related
to
our
landfill
should
be
extended.
H
So
I
remain
open.
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
be
debated
here
today,
but
my
residents
are
very
concerned
about
a
an
additional
fee
for
their
garbage,
but
I
think
we
all
share
the
concern
that
we
shouldn't
be
talking
about.
Building
a
new
landfill
in
this
city
and
any
options
that
contribute
I
think
should
be
on
the
table
for
discussion.
So
thank
you.
Y
E
Y
E
Problem
so
so
thank
you
for
the
question.
So
no,
we,
through
the
development
of
this
policy,
we
did
engage
with
our
vendors
in
order
to
ensure
they
didn't
see
any
issues
with
it,
and
so
basically
they
gave
us
the
the
green
light
that
basically
they
are
supportive
of
this
approach
and
they
wouldn't
wouldn't
require
any
additional
funding
for
them
to
provide
the
service
for
us.
Y
I,
thank
you
on
clarifying
that
the
other
component
I've
been
there's.
There
have
been
lots
of
good
discussion.
There's
lots
of
questions.
My
colleague
asked
the
last
question.
I
need
an
answer,
but
that's
great,
but
the
component
I'm
not
really
understanding
I,
can't
wrap
my
hand
around
the
enforcement
and
I
see
that
counselor
King
put
a
motion
about
the
education
component,
but
I
don't
see
anything
and
from
a
rural
perspective
and
how
we
want
to
enforce
that
and
I
understand.
Y
There
is
an
ftes
but
really,
and
it's
difficult
to
really
control
and
monitor
the
ditches
in
rural
area
like
we
were
talking
this
morning
about
about
geographically,
like
I,
have
dead
ends.
I
have
wrote
that
there
is
nobody
live
on
it
and
it's
not
monitored
and
it's
not
controlled
and
I
understand
the
the
concern
that
my
residents
been
pushing
on
telling
me
and
asking
me,
but
Osgood
had
this
before.
Like
really,
can
you
give
me
a
clear
picture,
how
you're
going
to
control
and
monitor
our
parks
and
our
rural
ditches.
E
Through
you
chair,
so
so,
currently,
we're
blessed
in
public
works
to
have
our
roads
team
and
they
tend
to
go
and
and
drive
our
city
daily,
and
so
basically
they
are
great
eyes
as
to
what
is
happening
in
the
rural
areas,
so
that
practice
happens
today
and
basically,
as
part
of
our
implementation
planning,
is
to
engage
more
closely
with
them.
In
order
to
understand
what
they're
observing
in
order
then
to
see
whether
or
not
we
need
to
include
additional
strategies
in
order
to
mitigate
any
illegal
dumping
issues
that
we
come
across.
Y
But
yeah
I
appreciate
the
explanation,
but
I
personally,
don't
think
the
bylaw
and
the
city
is
going
to
be
able
to
take
the
amount
of
calls
that
we'll
be
getting
on
garbage
days
from
our
resident
and
especially
the
small
businesses.
Now
they
have
to
lock
their
bin,
but
but
what
else
you
have
enforcement,
because
I
know
we
have
it's
going
to
encourage
a
lot
of
people
to
have
backyard
insulated
and
people's
gonna
start
burning,
garbage
and
I
know.
Probably
you
don't
see
it
or
probably
you've
heard
about
it.
W
N
Through
you,
Mr,
chair,
I,
think
in
terms
of
those
particular
pieces.
Unfortunately,
I,
don't
I
don't
have
data
to
be
able
to
speak
to
at
this
point,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
will
will
take
a
point
to
make
sure
that
we
are
proactively
looking
at
those
calls
and
those
complaints
that
are
coming
in
for
some
of
those
that
be
illegal
burning
and
it's
something.
We
can
certainly
monitor.
Y
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr
chair,
I,
just
wanna
like
I.
Don't
wanna
come
across
that
I'm,
criticizing
stuff,
I
I,
appreciate
all
the
work
and
what
you've
been
doing.
I
know:
we've
been
having
conversation
in
the
past
and
I
want
to
appreciate,
Charlize
and
Nicole
and
and
of
course,
Allen's
group
for
their
great
work.
Y
They
do,
but
I
I
cannot
for
the
life
of
me
so
sit
here
and
support
any
of
the
report,
and
not
even
I
want
to
be
on
record
that
I
cannot
even
support
any
tiger
bag
and
I
cannot
support
anything
to
gain.
That
two-year
like
we're
asking
too
much
from
our
resident
to
gain
only
two
years
and
I
don't
want
to
bring
that
conversation
back
again
open
up
talking
about
inspiration
or
whatnot,
but
as
a
representative
from
rural
counselor
and
I
heard,
my
resident
and
I
have
a
concern
from
many
many
things.
Y
We
have
an
incinerator,
people
burning
garbage
in
the
backyard,
a
ditches,
rural
enforcement
and
our
ditches
and
our
Parks
small
businesses
impact
and
then
we're
turning
around
telling
our
resident.
You
know
what
we're
pointing
our
finger
at
them
to
say.
Well,
you
know
what
it's
because
of
you
now
we're
going
to
collect
we're
gonna,
do
a
bag
attack
bag
and
then
we,
our
life
cycle,
our
landfills
life
is
getting
shorter.
We
lost
10
11
years,
I,
don't
know
where
they're
gone.
Y
We
we
keep
talking
about
the
life
of
the
landfill
and
all
of
a
sudden.
We
lose
10
years
and
I
did
talk
to
the
other
General
personally
about
that
also
so
Mr
chair
this
I
encourage
my
my
colleague.
This
report
should
not
be
even
come
to
council.
This
report
should
go
back
and
for
two
years
really
what
we're
trying
to
save.
We
shouldn't
even
have
that
discussion
and
get
the
resident
of
the
city
of
Ottawa
wild
up
over
two-year
expansion.
Y
We
need
to
go
back
and
find
a
solution
like
we've
done
in
the
last
Council
and
I.
Think
Council,
rubley
and
councilor
Brown
brought
a
great.
They
brought
a
good
motion
and
I.
Think
personally,
I
will
support
that
motion,
but
I
cannot
support
any
of
that
report
or
the
motion
that
they
presented
today.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chair.
Z
Thank
you
chair.
So,
as
I've
mentioned
in
previous
meetings,
I've
always
believed
that
any
viable
strategy
to
deal
with
the
crisis
of
of
how
we
handle
our
City's
growing
waste
will
rely
just
as
much,
if
not
more
so,
on
changing
our
Behavior
as
residents
and
as
consumers
as
it
does
on
technology
such
as
waste
to
energy.
Z
So,
as
the
delegate
from
from
waste
watch
Ottawa
said
in
his
presentation,
partial
pay
as
you
throw
programs,
are
no
longer
best
practice
across
Ontario
their
standard
practice.
So
132
other
municipalities
have
gone
where
we
have
chosen
not
to
tread
so
once
again
here
in
Ottawa,
as
with
high
performance
development
standards,
we
are
bystanders
bystander
bystanders,
while
other
cities
are
moving
forward.
But,
as
the
delegate
also
said
on
this
front
at
one
point
we
were
leaders
and
I'd
like
to
rejoin
the
rank
of
leaders
among
our
fellow
fellow
municipalities.
Z
You
another
question
for
staff:
well,
I
understand
that
if
Council
were
to
support
the
proposal
from
councilor,
Brown
there'd
be
no
cost
to
Residents
to
purchase
tags
as
as
they
would
have
to
in
The
Proposal
from
councilor
Carr
or
the
the
current
proposal
from
your
report.
Can
you
let
us
know
if,
if
with
the
the
proposal
from
counselor
Brown,
if
there'd
be
a
significant
difference
in
the
global
cost
per
household,
in
comparing
these
two
options
and
if
so,
what
might
that
cost
difference?
Be.
E
A
true
you
chair
so
doing
a
little
bit
of
math,
so
recognizing
that
the
the
car
motion
speaks
to
diversion
which
speaks
to
reduction
in
garbage
tonnage.
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
let's
say
about
30
000
tons
of
material
wouldn't
be
sent
to
landfill,
so
using
today's
estimated
collection
cost
as
well
as
today's
processing
cost.
That
would
be
between
twenty
and
thirty
dollars
per
household
for
the
brown
Motion
versus
the
two
dollars
for
the
car
motion.
So
that's
the
best
way
to
be
able
to
present
the
differences
between
the
two
motions.
So.
Z
Z
So
I
can
see
differences
if
we
now
look
at
the
original
55
bag
tag.
Motion
proposal
versus
the
car
proposal
I
can
see
differences
on
the
resident's
end.
When
it
comes
to
that
original
proposal
versus
the
car
proposal,
the
55
tags
approach
may
have,
as
as
you
mentioned,
offered
more
flexibility
to
users,
whereas
the
proposal
from
Carr
won't
have
74
percent
of
Ottawa
shouting
where
the
heck
of
my
tags.
Every
two
weeks,
Can
staff,
confirm
whether
during
the
consultations
was
there
support
from
the
approach
proposed
by
Council
Carr.
N
Through
you
Mr
chair,
so
in
terms
of
the
the
engagement,
we
didn't
necessarily
ask
for
you
know
resident
feedback
on
the
staff
proposal,
in
particular,
as
it
relates
to
tagging
every
single
item.
That
was
a
staff
recommendation
based
on
the
analysis
of
the
feedback
that
we
had
received
through
engagement,
so
two
pieces
through
engagement,
one
we
heard
from
residents
allowed
and
clear
that
flexibility
was
important
to
them.
Recognizing
that
waste
set
outs
are
not
are
not
necessarily
consistent
from
collection
to
collection.
N
Are
there
times
throughout
the
year
where
households
May
set
out
more
waste
than
they
do
on
on
compared
to
the
average.
So
with
that,
that
is
why
staff
brought
forward
the
recommendation
for
the
for
the
tagging
of
all
the
bikes,
so
I
I
think,
but
what
we
can
go
back
to
is.
There
was
again
the
greatest
consistence
in
terms
of
feedback
was
there
was
that
the
option
that
had
the
greatest
amount
of
support
was
the
partial
pays?
You
throw
thank.
Z
You
and
one
final
question
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
anybody
from
the
AG's
office
here.
So
this
is
a
question
with
regards
to
the
the
motion
from
councilor
de
Roche
through
councilor
Brown,
where
and
I
hope,
I
understand
the
motion
correctly
and
forgive
me
if
I
don't
but
as
I
understand.
The
object
of
that
motion
is
to
have
the
auditor
general
investigate
the
data
that
supports
the
various
recommendations
from
from
staff
and
to
pause
any
action
on
implementing
anything
until
that
investigation
is
complete
and
reported
back
to
council.
Z
AA
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Counselor
through
you
chair,
whether
there's
Merit
I
think
that's
up
to
committee
and
Council
to
to
make
that
determination.
Obviously,
my
office
can
come
in
and
provide
an
independent
perspective
with
regards
to
the
data
that
has
been
used,
at
least
from
the
counselors
that
have
reached
out
to
me.
AA
That
was
some
of
their
concerns,
so
I
would
have
to
leave
that
determination
up
to
committee
and
council
with
regards
to
timelines
what
I've
also
mentioned
to
councilor
Digos
Council
Brown,
as
well
as
other
counselors
that
have
reached
up
to
my
office.
Recently.
With
regards
to
consideration
of
other
audits,
my
office
is
currently
very
strapped
for
resources.
As
you
can
imagine,
I
know
the
city
is
dealing
with
staffing
issues.
My
office
is
not
immune
to
that
either.
AA
Even
if
we
wanted
to
Outsource
this
work,
it's
important
to
know
that
we
need
resources
in-house
in
order
to
manage
the
work
as
well.
We
have
quality
assurance
standards
that
we
have
to
abide
by
in
order
to
meet
the
standards
that
that
our
audits,
our
reviews
and
our
investigations
fall
under,
and
so
we
have
to
take
that
into
consideration.
As
well
from
a
timeline
perspective,
we
would
need
to
onboard
resources.
AA
I
would
need
to
obtain
a
subject
matter,
expert
or
experts
in
order
to
help
assist
us
in
understanding
some
of
the
more
intricate
complexities
of
Waste
Management.
It
does,
however,
align
with
one
of
the
audits
that
we
had
as
consideration
in
our
2022-2023
audit
plan,
which
was
waste,
waste
management
and
so
taking
in
all
of
those
considerations.
AA
Also
knowing
that,
while
we
understand
that
committee
and
Council
have
timelines
that
they're
trying
to
meet,
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
do
appropriate
due
diligence
and
provide
quality
work
back
to
committee
and
Council,
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
give
a
specific
time
frame,
but
most
of
our
audits
take
six
months
to
a
year.
So
I
think
that's
roughly
what
you
could
take
into
consideration
now,
there's
how
the
motion
is
worded
right
now.
AA
G
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
in
my
days
in
the
Army.
When
we
had
a
complex
problem,
we
do
what
we
call
the
mission
analysis
and
that's
when
you
break
things
down
and
you
take
a
look
at
what
you
need
to
do
holistically
and
I
would
call
this
a
complex
problem,
so
at
the
risk
of
perhaps
making
some
mistakes
here
on
your
first
slide,
I
noticed
that
one
of
the
objectives
is.
We
need
to
prepare
ourselves
for
a
new
curbside
contract.
That's
one
of
the
impetu.
G
That's
part
of
the
impetus
to
why
we're
doing
that
today
and
listening
to
the
three
options
that
I
think
that
were
presented,
the
original
that
you
proposed
the
car
motion
and
the
brown
motion
I
think
they
all
check
that
box.
We
want
to
grow
to
a
targeted,
a
provincial
Target
of
70
Organics
for
2023.
G
I,
believe
that
all
of
these
options
by
themselves
will
fail
to
do
that,
but
some
some
are
better
than
others,
but
they
all
will
divert
to
some
degree
getting
us
towards
that.
From
from
the
Organics
perspective,
I
took
note
Mr
Gontier
of
your
comment.
Everything
we
can
do
to
extend
the
life
of
the
trail
waste
facility
and
and
I've
certainly
heard
that
a
lot
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
G
It's
for
that
reason
that
I
put
the
two
directions
that
I
had
today
forward.
One
is
about
the
importance
of
education
and
doing
the
best
we
can
to
reinforce
the
successes.
We've
had
on
past
diversion
strategies
in
order
to
replicate
that
into
a
as
good
a
job
as
we
can
and
the
other
to
look
at
essentially
an
untapped
resource.
G
You
know
a
potential
for
us
to
look
at
waste
that
is,
is
currently
taking
up
air
space
tonnage
in
trail
in
the
trail
landfill
facility
that
could
be
diverted
so
I'm
interested
to
to
try
and
do
the
best.
Certainly
that
I
can
but
I
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
get
towards
everything
that
we
can
to
extend
that
the
life
of
the
trail
waste
facility
I,
would
throw
in
there
I
think
we
need
to
be
synchronized
and
right
now,
I
think
we're
a
little
bit
out
of
Step.
G
The
issue
of
the
equity
lens,
which
I
think
is,
is
pretty
critically
important
here,
I've
seen,
certainly
in
the
curbside
waste
diversion
options
report
that
you
gave
there's
report
or
there
are
paragraphs
on
each
of
the
options
there
that
talk
about
equity
and
certainly
from
my
perspective,
I
think,
there's
an
element
of
Simplicity
that
goes
with
that,
and
so
with
those
objectives
in
mind,
I
I
do
believe
that
I'll
be
voting
in
support
of
the
brown
motion.
Four
bags
with
no
tags
and
I'll
explain
why.
G
G
Respondents
felt
that
this
was
the
most
easily
explained
option.
This
being
the
firm
limit
option,
explained
option
and
offered
equality
to
everyone,
so
no
one
would
be
able
to
buy
their
way
out.
It
also
imposed
no
additional
costs
on
the
residents,
making
it
a
fair
option
for
people
on
low
incomes
and
was
easier
to
implement,
because
residents
didn't
need
to
get
or
use
tax
quote
from
a
survey
respondent.
G
I
know
that
there
there's
no
specific
number
highlighted
here,
but
in
document
one
of
the
appendices
it
says,
Ferb
garbage
limits
with
the
description
and
then
the
estimated
impact
on
diversion
is
up
to
five
percent
increase
in
the
waste
aversion
rate.
I
understand
that
there's
no
specific
number
that's
a
fixed
with
that,
but
up
to
we've
seen
a
lot
of
the
up
to
today.
So
I'll
use
that
number
as
well,
because
it's
in
your
text.
G
That
is
money
that
could
be
diverted
into
the
solid
waste
capital
reserve
that
could
go
towards
whatever
the
long-term
solution
is,
whether
it
be
you
know,
purchasing
some
more
land
for
for
expanding
the
landfill,
whether
it
is
for
incineration
and
I
know
that
none
of
those
are
attractive
options.
But
we
heard
from
the
GM
himself
that
there
is
a
requirement
to
look
at
that
option.
So
I
just
I
wanted
to
highlight
that.
Okay.
J
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
just
before
asking
a
couple
questions
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
engagement,
I.
Think
since
being
elected
as
I've
been
sworn
on,
November
15th,
I've
never
seen
so
much
engagement
on
a
file,
so
I
I
think
it's
great
that
everybody's
so
invested
in
this,
and
thanks
to
the
staff
as
well.
Well,
I'll,
be
speaking
to
my
specific
Motion
in
wrap
up
I
just
want
to
confirm
something
that
I
I've
heard.
I
think
it
was
in
response
to
Council
of
divine's
questioning.
J
L
L
J
K
J
N
Sure
thing
through
through
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
counselor
for
the
question,
so
I'm
gonna
I'll
do
my
best
to
be
exhaustive
here,
but
in
terms
of
some
of
the
different
options
that
we
have
been
exploring
through
the
solid
waste
master
plan
really
focus
on
that
45
of
the
existing
waste
stream.
That
we
say
is
non-divertible
where
there
might
be
opportunities
to
further
divert
those
so,
first
and
foremost,
a
bulky,
reuse
and
recycling
program
which
counselor
to
the
point
about
mattresses.
That's
a
that's
an
opportunity
through
that
particular
strategy.
N
We're
also
looking
at
opportunities
to
enhance
or
to
introduce
Recycling
and
reuse
options
for
commercial
waste
or
sorry,
construction
and
demolition.
Waste
there's
also
opportunities
that
we're
looking
at
through
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
which
is
to
actually
ban
the
industrial,
commercial
and
institutional
waste
that
is
coming
currently
to
Trail
Road,
albeit
a
smaller
percentage
of
all
the
waste
that
comes
over
the
Gayton
Trail
Road.
It
is
an
opportunity
to
for
Council
to
consider
further
preserving
the
the
space
within
that
asset.
N
There
are
opportunities
to
enhance
diversion
of
waste
at
City
facilities,
enhancing
our
Parks
Waste
Management
Programs
by
introducing
recycling
programs
that
just
gives
you
I
think
a
high
level,
a
sense
of
an
overview
of
the
different
opportunities
that
we
are
looking
at.
I
know
it's
not
quite
exhaustive,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
the
members
of
committee
and
community
council
with
a
more
exhaustive
list.
J
AA
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Counselor
chairs,
through
you
councilor.
Could
you
just
confirm
that
you're
asking
whether
we'd
be
open
to
looking
at
the
kind
of
early
success
of
the
program
if
implemented,
or
are
you
talking
about
looking
at
the
data
free
with
regards
to
the
potential
for
success,
yeah.
J
AA
Would
say
those
would
be
two
separate
items
for
us
to
look
at,
not
something
that
I
would
necessarily
state
that
I'm
not
open
to.
It
obviously
would
be
because
looking
at
the
data
with
regards
to
the
success
of
the
program
is
very
important,
but
I
think
it
would
also
be
a
question
for
staff.
Is
that
something
that
they
are
planning
to
do
as
well?
And
is
it
perhaps
more
so
something
that
we
would
audit
the
work
that
they
have
done
on
that
particular
item.
J
Yeah
excellent,
okay,
perfect
that
fits
perfectly
into
my
second
part.
Question
I'm
wanting
a
staff
can
speak
to
the
data
that
was
used
in
order
to
generate
the
recommendations
and
the
confidence
in
that
data
or
lack
of
confidence
in
that
data,
and
then
any
plans
that
any
evaluation
plans
on
that
data
as
well.
N
We
have
been
actively
implementing
those
recommendations
so,
first
and
foremost,
there's
a
couple
different
data
pieces
that
you
do
see
I
think,
first
and
foremost,
the
waste
audit.
We
can
start
with
that.
We
did
seek
independent
expertise
and,
of
course,
also
utilized
industry
best
practices
to
design
these
studies
to
support
the
staff
recommendations.
N
So
the
waste
audit
was
conducted
by
a
third-party
consultant
which
specializes
in
waste
characterization
auditoring
monitoring
as
well
as
planning,
and
we
also
did
the
audit
in
conjunction
with
or
in
partnership
with
the
continuous
Improvement
fund,
which
is
they
jointly
fund
waste
composition,
studies
across
the
province,
and
they
do
utilize.
A
standardized
study,
methodology,
funding
and
project
coordination,
and
that's
where
you
saw
through
the
stock
recommendation
that
the
waste
audit
showed
that
about
58
of
what
is
disposed
in
garbage
today
can
be
diverted
through
our
existing
green
bin,
our
black
bin
and
blue
bin.
N
So
we
used
a
cluster
sampling
technique
considering
a
geographical
socioeconomic
status.
That's
what
we
helped
to
use
to
identify
the
different
streets
in
the
setout
study
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
estimated
modeling
that
you're
seeing
in
staff's
report.
We
did
retain
a
consultant
that
specializes
in
environmental
science
and
management,
so
Dylan
Consulting,
to
help
build
a
model
to
estimate
the
impact
of
a
curbside
diversion
policy
on
ottawa's
waste
stream.
N
So
the
model,
as
you
can
see,
from
what
was
presented
by
staff,
did
estimate
garbage
tenant
reduction
per
capita
and
increased
diversion
rates
by
assessing
the
shift
in
material
from
our
garbage
stream
to
the
recycling
Organics,
as
well
as
leafing
yard
waste
streams,
and
that
was
all
done.
Based
on
the
experience
in
the
data
from
Municipal
those
comparative
municipalities.
N
We
review
changes
to
each
of
the
waste
streams
on
a
per
capita
basis
to
avoid
population
growth,
minimizing
the
estimated
impact
of
each
of
the
policy
options,
and
we
also
use
standardized
industry
data
available
through
the
provincial
data
call
as
the
basis
for
projections,
because
unfortunately
it
is
every
single
municipality
reports
on
their
diversion
rates
differently.
So
that's
why
we're
going
to
we
use
the
the
consistency
through
the
provincial
data.
Call,
so
I
think
that
just
that
provides
some
of
some
of
the
more
details.
J
N
J
N
So
through
you
Mr
chair,
you
can
sort
of
think
the
biggest
thing.
Just
to
note
is
it
with
further
delayed,
achieving
or
working
towards
further
achieving
the
the
provincial
policy
Target
of
70
I
think
also
important
to
know
that
the
the
further
we
put
off
the
decision
that,
of
course
it
has
implications
on
the
integrated,
the
entire
Integrated
Waste
Management
System,
and
those
projections
that
you
see
in
terms
of
opportunities
for
Waste
reduction
and
additional
capacity
at
the
landfill.
N
J
Thank
you.
One
question
I've
heard
from
my
residents
is
that
we're
increasingly
you
know,
and
with
changes
to
zoning,
we're
going
to
see
that
I
have
a
lot
of
our
one
zoning,
probably
one
of
the
most
in
the
city.
You
know
as
we're.
Moving
to
R2
and
I
believe
we've
got,
you
know,
multiple
families,
multiple
tenants
living
in
a
single-family
home
or
we've
got
more
duplexes
triplexes,
and
so
this
is
a
bit
of
fear
with
curbside.
J
With
the
personal
case,
you
throw
that
they're
not
going
to
be
within
a
two-bag
limit
for
free,
and
you
know
that
this
is
gonna
have
to
be
10,
Advantage
landlord
management.
You
know
those
questions
are
up
there.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
what
the
plans
are
for
that
situation,
especially
as
we're
moving
forward
with
intensification.
N
For
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor,
so
in
terms
of
large
households,
I
think
just
reading
ourselves
back
in
in
the
data
it's
a.
It
makes
up
currently
about
eight
percent
of
households
across
the
city
which
have
five
or
more
residents
the
intent
with
the
pay
partial
pays.
You
throw
policy.
N
Is
it's
it's
really
to
to
introduce
that
utility-based
service,
so
paying
for
each
household
paying
for
how
much
they
utilize
that
service
and
setting
that
that
standardized
base
level
at
what
we're
seeing
right
now,
as
the
average
set
out
and
again
recognizing
that
you
know
over
three
quarters
of
of
residents
are
already
setting
out
or
below
that
limit.
I
think
important
to
recognize
that
when
we
did
the
set
out
study
because
of
its
randomized
nature,
it
also
did
incorporate
into
that
some
of
the
larger
households.
N
So,
with
this
policy
recommendation,
there
there's
still
ample
opportunity
for
all
households
to
actively
participate
in
each
of
the
diversion
programs,
but
again
very
similar
to
to
how
water
services
work
today
or
how
Hydro
Services
work
today
for
those
larger
households
that
have
more
individuals
living
within
the
household,
while
they
have
some
control
over
how
much
they
utilize
those
resources
and
pay
for
them.
It's
the
same
sort
of
note
on
the
waste
management
side
under
what
is
being
proposed
by
staff.
K
J
A
Council
yeah
you're
you're
up
your
time
is
up.
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
The
the
Motions
that
we've
got
the
directions
and
emotions
that
are
on
the
floor.
I've
indicated
when
we
came
back
that
staff
I'll
ask
staff
for
their
recommendation
as
we
go
through
each
of
them
at
the
end.
So
after
okay
discussion
thanks.
A
AB
AB
You
know:
I
made
a
few
decisions
in
the
first
two
years
of
council,
based
on
pressure
from
the
mayor's
office
and
deferral
to
staff,
which
I
wish
I'd
spent
some
more
time
on,
but
as
a
new
counselor
I
trusted
a
little
bit
too
much
and
if
I
could
go
back,
knowing
what
I
know
now,
I
may
have
done
things
a
little
bit
differently
and
I'm
telling
you
this,
because
this
item
might
be
the
play
that
haunts
you.
Making
decisions
without
complete
information
is
a
mugs
game
and
I
don't
want
to
play
it.
AB
People
are
struggling
to
make
ends
meet
right
now,
skyrocketing
inflation
means
that
families
are
being
forced
to
take
difficult
decisions
on
groceries,
oftentimes
increasing
the
amount
of
plastic
packaging
coming
into
the
home
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
Why
should
we
be
punishing
them
for
decisions?
Producers
have
made
on
the
packaging
of
their
products.
Some
of
this
is
being
addressed
by
the
last
item,
but
not
all
of
it
and
it's
an
incomplete
solution.
AB
AB
Raising
taxes
outside
of
a
budget
cycle
is
disingenuous.
No
one
ran
on
bag
tags,
and
this
was
not
discussed
during
the
last
budget
cycle.
When
people
were
actually
paying
attention
to
Municipal
politics,
our
city
does
not
have
a
good
history
of
communicating
our
policies
properly.
We
have
an
extensive
history
of
it.
In
fact,
service
line,
warranties
vacant
unit,
tax,
road
closures,
changes
to
our
water
bills
all
compete,
complete
failures
in
communication.
AB
Our
communication
on
major
policies
is
so
poor
that
a
counselor
sitting
at
this
table
today
needed
to
write
a
motion
on
communication
and
and
education
explicitly.
This
tells
me
that
this
report
is
incomplete
and
even
those
that
may
support
it
have
reservations
on
the
environment
file.
The
ability
to
use
plastic
bags
in
the
green
bin
was
not
properly
communicated,
as
evidenced
by
the
three
percent
diversion
rate
and
when
I
mention
that
you
can
put
plastic
bags
in
the
green
bin
to
Residents
more
often
than
not
they're
surprised.
AB
This
has
been
allowed
since
July,
2nd
2019.
they're
also
taken
aback
that
they
can
use
the
green
bin
for
animal
waste,
including
cat
litter.
Most
people
are
working
from
home
now
or
more
people
are
working
from
home,
which
means
more
trash
at
Residential
Properties.
This
plan
is
Half,
Baked
and
incomplete.
We
have
no
long-term
Plan
before
us.
Today.
We
have
no
plan
for
multi-residential
buildings.
We
have
no
plan
for
home-based
businesses.
We
have
no
plan
for
Farmers.
We
have
no
plan
for
large
families.
AB
We
are
a
city
of
large
multi-residential
buildings,
Condominiums
single-family
homes,
farms
and
businesses,
but
this
policy
really
only
targets
single-family
homeowners,
we're
not
Halton
we're
not
Waterloo
we're,
not
Mississippi
Mills.
This
policy
is
incomplete
and
relies
on
estimates
that
are
dubious
at
best
and
delusional
at
worst.
AB
Just
a
few
years
ago,
we
were
being
told
that
we
had
10
more
years
on
top
of
the
current
life
of
this
landfill,
but
the
staff
made
a
mistake
in
the
math,
so
I,
don't
trust
these
numbers
and
we're
only
presented
with
the
high
number
up
to
this
and
up
to
that.
So
why
not
show
the
range?
Why
not
look
at
at
least
instead
of
up
to
the
chair
had
mentioned
that
we'd
already
have
pay
as
you
throw
for
Batteries
electronics
and
tires
how's
that
working
how
well
we
still
have
batteries
in
the
garbage.
AB
The
Queenswood,
Heights
Community
Association
participated
in
cleaning
the
capital
event
and
found
televisions
in
the
park.
Take
a
drive
out
to
our
rural
areas
and
you'll
find
hundreds
of
tires
in
the
ditch
and
in
fact
there
are
tires
sitting
in
mixed
garbage
and
Council
attorney's
Ward
right
now.
He
sent
me
a
photo
of
it
this
morning.
Pay
as
you
throw,
is
not
going
to
work
here,
and
it's
just
going
to
make
garbage
somebody
else's
problem.
People
in
our
city
don't
even
know
what
the
current
green
bin
policy
is.
AB
We
didn't
spend
the
time
and
effort
on
a
proper
campaign
to
see
how
it
works
and
why
don't
we
finish
the
rollout
of
multi-residential
diversion
programs?
Why
don't
we
wait
and
see
how
the
producer
pay
policies
reduce
the
amount
of
packaging
that
families
are
forced
to
put
in
the
trash
bin
we're
coming
in
for
an
emergency
landing
here,
instead
of
coasting
onto
the
runway?
We're
pushing
on
the
yoke
I
want
to
see
a
long-term
plan,
not
a
new
tax,
to
extend
the
city-owned
landfill
for
two
years.
This
is
short-sighted
and
incomplete.
AB
Let's
not
punish
residents
for
our
poor
communication,
let's
not
punish
residents
for
having
a
large
family
and,
let's
not
punish
families
with
low
income.
Let's
not
punish
farmers
and,
let's
not
vote
on
an
incomplete
policy
today,
this
wouldn't
come
into
effect
until
Q2
2024..
We
have
time
to
really
do
the
work
on
this
on
defer
this
decision
to
the
solid
waste
master
plan,
with
a
real
long-term
solution
that
we
can
vote
on
with
confidence.
Thank
you.
A
A
For
you
know,
over
three
years
now
on
the
plan
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
you
know,
we've
got
that
data
in
front
of
us
and
that
over
the
long
term,
the
larger
Solid
Waste
master
plan
contributes
to
this,
which
is
just
one
of
many
decisions
along
the
way.
Totally
understand
you're
taking
issue
with
the
one
decision,
but
I
think
there's
a
there's,
a
plethora
of
decisions
coming
on
this
that
stay
tuned.
This
for
this
term
and.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
and
councilor
little
after
I
think
you've
stolen
all
the
points
that
are
on
my
list
here
by
the
way
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
Half
Baked
was
in
there
I
had
all
the
tag
lines.
I
was
ready
to
go
so,
but
thank
you
chair
I
know.
This
is
a
really
interesting
discussion.
If
I
can
get
Chris
to
put
up
slide
number
one
of
the
three
slides
that
I
have
sent
him.
This
is,
and
thanks
for
stealing
my
fire
Matt.
Q
This
is
what
I'm
dealing
with
I
have
20
of
these
condo
corporations.
On
average
there's
tires
and
toilet
seats.
This
is
multi-residential.
What
are
we
doing
to
address
this
issue
and
I
know
it's
coming
later
and
as
Matt
indicated,
this
is
my
concern.
I'd
rather
have
the
whole
buffet
in
front
of
us.
I'll
use
that
term,
because
I
know
the
mayor
likes
to
use
that
to
be
able
to
make
strong
decisions.
Where
are
we
at
on
multi-residential?
A
E
So
through
your
chair,
so
so
thank
you.
Councilor
for
sharing
that
I
believe
this
is
probably
a
common
pad
location,
and
this
would
be
an
example
of
a
curbside
initiative
and
once
the
the
policy
is
approved
by
Council,
it
would
be
as
part
of
the
implementation
working
with
the
property
management
companies
of
the
a
thousand
or
so
common
pad
locations
that
are
across
the
city
in
order
to
determine
how
best
to
deal
with
the
mountain
of
waste
recognizing.
Q
And
are
we
looking
at
and
forgive
me
I'm
dog
sitting
today?
Are
we
looking
at
other
municipalities
on
how
they
deal
with
with
the
multi-residential
condos
as
well
on
finding
making
sure
that
they
get
in
line
because
they're
contacting
me
saying:
hey,
Tim
everyone's
going
to
start
driving
two
blocks
away
and
throwing
all
our
garbage
on
our
lot,
which
happened?
You
remember
back
in
the
day
with
Maria
and
in
2012,
when
we
went
to
bi-weekly
I
had
people
literally
leaving
garbage
bags
in
my
lawn
because
they
were
angry
at
me.
N
Through
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
So
absolutely
the
intent
Shelly
had
mentioned
that
we'd
be
working
individually
with
each
of
these
condos
associations,
but
as
part
of
our
Municipal
scan,
we
have
had
conversations
with
municipalities
on
some
of
their
best
practices.
We
we
can
contemplate
implementing
in
Ottawa.
For
these
particular
examples,
I
I
will
recognize
to
you
that
you
know
some
of
the
challenges
already
exist
today
with
those
properties,
and
we
still
do
continue
to
anticipate
some
of
those
challenges.
N
However,
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
staff
recommendation
for
for
the
requirement
of
begging
or
sorry
tagging
each
of
the
items
does
make
it
much
easier
for
enforcement
at
these
particular
locations,
so
that
on
on
this
particular
piece,
I
guess
to
answer
your
question.
Yes,
we
are
looking
at
that
feedback
from
from
other
municipalities
to
help
address
some
of
the
the
existing
challenges.
N
One
other
thing
I
will
note
is
that
in
if
Council
does
choose
to
approve
the
the
policy
recommendation
in
working
with
these
different
common
pad
locations,
we
do
have
an
opportunity
to
transition
them
onto
more
of
a
cart
based
system
which
can
help
with
managing
some
of
the
some
of
the
existing
challenges
with
Seto,
but
also
helping
further
reduce
some
of
the
issues
with
the
potential
increase
in
illegal
dumping.
But
that'll
be
dealt
with
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
recognizing
that
every
single
property
has
unique
space
considerations.
Q
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
if
I
can
get
Chris
to
put
up
slide
number
two,
and
this
will
be
like
a
blast
from
the
past
Nicole
so
be
prepared.
This
is
a
councilor
McCray
and
I
back
in
the
day
and
I've
always
been
a
very
strong
advocate
for
diversion.
We
got
21
sorry,
we've
got
22
new
trucks
and
we
were
given.
You
know
it
was.
Q
It
was
6.1
million
dollars
of
taxpayers
money
to
really
increase
it
and
have
these
multi-split
trucks
to
be
able
to
divert
things,
and
we
were
given
the
promise,
and
this
story
is
from
Le
Dua
I
credit
them
for
the
photo
great
photo.
You
may
have
taken
one
to
Nicole,
but
back
in
September
in
2012
we
were
given
the
promise
of
another
30
years
of
Trail
Road.
What
happened
because
I'm
looking
at
the
math
here
I'm?
It's
not
really
adding
up.
E
I
I,
thank
you
chair
for
that
question,
so
I
believe
that
that's
part
of
an
outstanding
inquiry
that
we
are
working
on
and
that
we
will
ensure
to
give
back
to
counselors,
daruss
and
kids
prior
to
the
next
council
meeting.
But
what
I
will
preface
to
say
is
some
of
the
the
lifespan
of
Trail
Road
was
based
on
increased
diversion
and
the
use
of
private
landfills.
E
Q
Excellent
because,
in
the
article
of
the
Y
it's
very
clear,
it
was
supposed
to
save
us
10
million
dollars
a
year
and
extend
the
life
by
nearly
30
years.
It's
2023
and
I
think
we're
at
10
years,
but
all
I
have
to
say:
let's
go
with
slide
number
three
Chris,
and
this
is
my
final
slide
of
my
show
and
tell
and
I
I,
by
the
way
I
I
want
to
really
preface
the
fact
that
I
appreciate
all
the
work
of
Staff.
This
is
this
is
Edmonton
and
their
waste.
Q
Diversion
and
I've
recognized
this.
From
many
municipalities
we
set
very
high
bars
and
targets,
which
is
rainbows
and
unicorns.
We
all
love
it.
We
want
to
get
there,
but
this
is
what
happened
in
their
last
auditor
general
report,
so
I'm
hoping
the
AG
report
is
going
to
really
focus
on
where
we've
come
from,
where
we
got
to
today
and
how
we're
not
achieving
targets
similar
to
Edmonton
I,
don't
want
to
lower
the
bar
I
I
think
we
should
keep
the
bar
high,
but
you
can
see
what
they
did
here
in
2007.
Q
I
is
this
something
that
the
auditor
general
is
going
to
look
at
about
realistic,
realistic
benchmarks
about
how
we
can
achieve
this
because
I
think
that's
where
our
problem
is.
We
set
the
expectations
so
high
as
politicians,
I
love
going
out
and
taking
photos
with
garbage
trucks
and
saying
we're
going
to
divert
things
and
then,
when
we
don't
hit
those
targets,
my
face
is
still
stuck
in
there
go
ahead
and
letting
me
do
this
and
I
think
it's
unfortunate
that
we
haven't
had
a
plan
that
puts
everything
together,
especially
multi-residential.
AA
AA
Consideration
is
how
quickly
committing
counselor
looking
to
receive
the
results
of
our
audit,
the
larger
scope.
We
take
the
more
time
it
takes
so
again,
I
I
go
back
to
the
will
of
committee
and
Council,
which
is
what
is
it
that
you're
looking
for,
and
then
we
could
take
that
back
and
determine
what
we
feel
would
be
an
appropriate
scope,
one
to
ensure
that
we're
covering
off
key
areas
of
risk
within
this
subject
matter
and,
second
of
all,
taking
it
into
consideration
the
time
frame.
Q
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
and
I
want
to
thank
staff
again,
even
though
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
current
bag
of
tag
program,
because
I
feel
that
we
need
more
options,
we
need
everything
on
the
table.
Multi-Residential
possible
incineration,
all
those
other
things
in
front
of
us,
and
we
don't
have
that
if
someone's
willing
to
move
a
motion
to
defer
and
I
know
that
that
always
is
like.
Q
M
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
chair
and
I'd,
like
to
thank
staff.
It
seems
like,
over
the
last
few
weeks,
I've
had
a
meeting
or
two
week
every
week
with
Shelly
and
Nicole,
so
I
appreciate
that
we're
getting
to
know
each
other
very
well,
I'll
start
off
with
a
question
back
when
the
city
transitioned
to
bi-weekly
collection
in
2012..
Do
we
have
any
data
on
how
many
tons
of
garbage
was
recovered
from
Parks
or
roadways,
illegal
dumping
staff
time
or
cost
any
of
that
that
data.
E
M
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
can
staff,
I,
I,
guess
break
down
in
their
report
the
requirement
or
the
request
for
enforcement
and
how
that's
going
to
play
out
over
the
next
12
months
and
I.
Think
Nicole
had
mentioned
that
there's
two
permanent
positions
being
requested
with
up
to
four
temporary
for
a
year
to
help
with
the
spike
that
we
anticipate
will
come
from
the
reduction
in
service.
N
Through
you
Mr
chair,
thank
you
counselor.
You
are
correct.
So
in
terms
of
the
the
first
and
foremost
the
two
additional
ftes,
those
the
intent
with
those
would
they
they
would
be
solid
waste
inspectors.
So
as
it
exists
today,
they
they
do
have
a
dual
function,
so
they're
they're
managing
compliance
of
our
existing
contract
with
our
collections
contractor,
and
they
are
also
supporting
education
with
households.
N
While
we
will
come
back
to
committee
and
council
with
a
more
detailed
implementation
plan,
I
can
say
at
a
high
level
in
terms
of
some
of
the
the
visioning
is
kind
of
almost
it's.
It's
it's
building
upon
our
existing
enforcement
approach
and
education
approach
today,
so
the
intent
would
be
more
of
this
kind
of
graduated
enforcement
approach.
As
if
you
know,
if
residents
are
not
tagging
their
waste
or
they're,
putting
out
excessive
waste,
it
would
first
and
foremost
it
would
be.
You
know
an
oops
sticker
that
would
be
left
behind
and
nothing
beyond.
N
That
practice
already
exists
today
with
our
existing
collection
contractors,
but
then
collecting
that
data,
so
that
if
there
are
recurring
issues
with
the
same
sort
of
households,
that
would
then
be
the
solid
waste
inspector
who
would
be
able
to
have
a
knock
on
the
door.
Have
a
conversation
with
with
the
household
making
sure
that
they're
well
aware
of
the
different
programs
that
they
said
that
they
have
access
to
and
availability
and
answer
any
additional
questions.
N
So
that's
the
intent
of
those,
but
it's
also
to
help
bolster
some
of
the
the
existing
enforcement
within
our
Parks.
So
in
particular
it
was
Solid
Waste
Services.
We
took
over
management
of
waste
from
Road
Services
into
the
solid
waste
kind
of
a
suite
of
services
over
the
past
two
years.
So
we
have
our
teams
out
there
today,
who
are
able
to
to
track
some
of
that
data.
M
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
I
hope
this
time.
Staff
will
keep
some
of
the
data
points
in
terms
of
dumping
and
calls
for
service
and
the
cost
to
staff.
I
think
that's
very
important
to
have
so
I
hope
we're
going
to
do
that.
Going
forward
a
point
of
clarification
on
the
presentation
and
I
have
it
up
on
my
screen
here
that
was
made
earlier
today.
The
average
Citywide
garbage
set
out
is
2.1
items
every
two
weeks
in
the
what
we
learned
report
to
page
10
3.1.
M
N
N
So
when
it
came
to
the
the
4.1,
I
or
4.18,
when
we
were
doing
further
analysis
of
that
data,
we
did
realize
that
there
there
was
a
data
from
or
an
error
from,
the
consultant
that
double
counted.
That
particular
piece.
So
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
wanted
updated
the
set
out
study
data
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
a
much
more
robust
sample
size
and
and
and
that's
when
we
we
undertook
that
additional
set
out
study
this
past
fall
and.
M
I
can
appreciate
everyone
makes
mistakes,
but
I
think
that
plays
to
councilor
durash's
request
in
his
motion
to
have
the
auditor
general
look
at
all
of
this
data
to
ensure
it
is
correct
and
being
interpreted
in
the
correct
manner.
The
next
question
I
have
is
in
regards
to
the
car
and
brown
motions
and
how
staff
calculated
the
cost
difference,
because
this
is
new
new
news
to
me
sitting
here
and
I'm
interested
in
how
that
determination
came
about.
E
Sure
counselor
so
through
the
chair,
given
that
the
the
car
motion
recognizes
it's
more
in
line
with
the
staff
recommendation
for
the
expected
tonnage
reduction
and
based
on
that
percentage,
it
could
be
up
to
30
000
tons
of
garbage
that
that
is
no
longer
needing
to
be
collected.
Nor
processed
with
the
the
brown
motion
of
the
four
items
which
really
looks
similar
to
today.
M
N
Certainly,
cancer
in
terms
of
first
and
foremost
looking
at
there
would
be
an
anticipated
reduction
in
the
capital
costs,
as
well
as
the
the
annual
operating
costs
so
in
in
terms
of
annual
operating
costs.
There'd
no
longer
be
the
the
recommendation
to
have
to
tag
every
single
item,
so
reducing
about
600
600
000
per
year
is
what
the
cost
of
that
for
printing
as
well
as
mailing
the
type.
So
we
do
anticipate
that
to
be
one
of
the
main
cost
reductions
and
certainly
I.
N
You
know
based
on
kind
of
the
direction
within
your
emotion.
We
would
have
to
go
away
and
do
some
further
analysis
on
the
exact
Capital
dollars
and
therefore
the
recommended
potential
reductions
in
the
Staffing
request,
based
based
on
your
recommendation,
but
certainly
something
we
could
come
back
on.
Thank.
M
You
and
I'll
make
a
last
point
and
then
I
can
get
back
on
the
speakers
list.
Mr
chair,
pulling
out
of
document
one
when
it
talks
about
enforcement
at
point
of
collection,
I'll
read
it
directly
from
the
report.
Experiences
with
in
Ottawa
and
those
from
other
municipalities
suggest
that
enforcement
of
proper
program
participation
is
essential
to
achieve
the
optimum
results.
Having
a
requirement
for
all
garbage
items
to
be
tagged
will
allow
for
easier
enforcement,
as
collection
operators
will
collect
only
items
that
have
a
tag.
M
On
my
property
tax
bill
and
then
have
to
turn
around
and
buy
extra
service,
so
I
would
certainly
encourage
my
colleagues
to
go
with
a
solution
that
shows
residents
that
were
serious
with
diversion
that
we're
enforcing
a
limit,
but
it's
even
for
all
and
easy
for
folks
and
across
the
city
to
adhere
with,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
your
time
and
all
of
the
support
over
the
last
few
weeks
do
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
AC
N
Through
you,
Mr
chair,
so
I
would
say
no
Pilots
to
date,
counselor
one
of
the
core
pillars.
So
five
core
pillars
are
the
multi-residential
diversion
strategy,
so
the
first
one
was
focusing
on
providing
or
making
it
mandatory
to
to
implement
a
green
bin
program
or
a
guy
next
diversion
program
for
all
multi-residential
buildings.
So,
as
chair
Menard
had
alluded
to
earlier,
it
is
now,
as
of
July
1st
of
last
year,
mandatory
for
any
new
building
to
have
a
green
bin
program
in
place
and
a
staff
will
be
coming
back
to
you.
N
This
fall
with
an
update
that
we
had
committed
to
which
is
providing
an
overview
of
the
implementation
plan
for
how
to
gradually
roll
out
to
the
remaining
about
50
of
properties
across
the
city
that
do
not
have
green
bin
programs
in
place
today.
Second
pillar,
which
was
enhanced
promotion,
education
and
happy
to
say,
we
actually
have
I,
have
a
new
temporary
team
on
board
that
will
be
beginning.
N
Actually,
they
began
calls
last
week
and
we'll
be
getting
some
of
that
more
proactive,
Outreach
and
Communications
and
door
knocking
within
multi-residential
properties,
first
and
foremost,
we're
starting
on
on
properties
that
already
have
the
program
in
place.
Recognizing
there's
still
an
opportunity
to
increase
that
in
this
fall
transitioning
over
to
support
the
rollout
in
all
buildings.
Third
pillar
was
looking
at
Pilot
opportunities,
so
we're
just
starting
some
of
that
work.
We've
identified
a
number
of
different
potential
pilot
opportunities.
AC
Thank
you
for
those
details.
I
I
used
to
work
for
a
landlord
here
in
Ottawa
called
CCOC
that
underwent
a
voluntary
diversion
program
well
before
it
was
actually
policy
and
I
know
that
they've
been
working
with
the
city
as
a
sort
of
a
community
partner
to
help
develop
that,
and
so
you
know
in
in
light
of
that,
I
I
really
would
Echo
the
delegates
now
I,
don't
remember
what
his
name
was,
but
he
did
say
a
swear
word
which
was
memorable
and
fun
but
yeah.
AC
So
he
was
saying
how
this
is
a
signal
you
know
as
to
where
the
city
stands
on
this
issue
and-
and
that
was
what
CCOC
was
trying
to
do
as
well,
and
what
it
required
was
investment.
So
in
fact
CCOC
had
its
own
staff.
That
was
doing
you
know
garbage
set
outs
and
so
on,
so
that
we
could
do
that
extra
above
and
beyond.
We
weren't
Outsourcing
or
Contracting
those
roles
within
that
organization,
so
that
it
could
be
successful
and
I
think
that's
really
to
just
to
offer.
AC
You
know
and
I'm
not
going
to
scoop
you
counselor
King
when
it
comes
to
your
motion,
but
you
know
for
my
direction
as
well
well,
which
is
on
the
floor.
Looking
at
an
equity
lens,
I
I,
really
would
like
to
to
emphasize
that
to
create
equity
in
a
program
is,
is
not
to
give
certain
groups
a
pass
because
it's
impossible
for
them
to
participate
and
considering
that
fair.
That
is
not
what
Equity
means.
AC
Equity
means
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
in
what
will
ensure
every
group
to
be
successful
in
participating
in
XYZ,
and
so
that
is
what
we
are
trying
to
achieve
by
applying
an
equity
lens.
So,
unlike
the
brown
motion,
which
suggests
that
there
might
be
alternatives
for
Good,
Samaritans
or
large
families
or
whatever
I'm,
not
sure,
that's
actually
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here
through
an
equity
lens,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
additional
supports
they
might
need
to
be
successful,
but
not
to
have
a
different
standard
for
participation.
I.
AC
AC
Similarly,
to
what
counselor
Brown
was
saying,
bonus
garbage
around
this
particular
weeks,
where
we
make
a
lot
more
garbage,
what
are
the
most
egregious
weeks
for
garbage
right
now
already,
when
does
the
city
of
Ottawa
throw
out
the
most
trash
are?
Does
it
hover
around
stat
holidays
or
particular
events,
or
what
does
the
environmental
scan
show.
N
N
And
then,
typically,
you
will
see
you
know
spring
cleaning
fall
cleaning.
We
do
see
over
the
Four
Seasons.
When
we
do
do
our
waste
audits,
it
will
fluctuate
not
significantly,
but
you
can
definitely
see
that
there
are
certain
times
and
periods
of
the
year
that
that
households,
more
prominently
are
I,
guess,
cleaning
up
houses
and
will
will
put
out
some
additional
waste
or
Shelley.
If
you
want
to
speak
more
so.
E
Thank
you
for
that.
So
Nicole
is
bang
on
that.
Traditionally
there
are
Cycles
through
the
summer.
It
tends
to
be
quieter.
As
now
that
we're
out
of
post-pandemic
people
are
often
and
vacationing
more,
we
do
see
an
uptick
in
recycling,
especially
the
the
boxes
leading
up
to
the
holiday
seasons
as
more
people
are,
are
ordering
and
shopping
online,
for
example.
So
there
are
seasonal
variabilities
with
their
waste
generation
in
the
city
that
we
do
observe.
AC
Okay,
so
I
think
my
point
would
just
be
to
you
know:
I
don't
have
a
vote
around
the
table
today,
but
maybe
something
to
think
about
for
Council
or
a
cautionary.
For
my
my
other
counsel
or
colleagues,
my
four-year-old
daughter
will
not,
for
whatever
reason,
stay
sleeping
in
her
bed.
All
night
and
she's
been
doing
this
since
February
of
last
year,
and
do
you
know
when
her
cycles
of
bad
behavior
happen?
AC
It's
the
starting
the
day
after
my
husband
and
I
have
caved
and
we've
let
her
sleep
in
her
bed
that
night
our
bed
that
night
right
as
soon
as
we
do
something
that
interrupts
that
behavior.
She
is
right
back
where
she
wanted
to
be,
and
so
the
idea
of
bonus
garbage
around
times
where
we're
making
a
lot
of
garbage.
As
like.
Don't
worry
you
you
get
bonus
garbage
this
week,
because
I
know
that
you
know
birthdays
are
really
messy
or
whatever
I,
just
I.
AC
Think
when
we're
trying
to
coach
people
through
a
change
in
Behavior,
consistency
will
be
key
and
I
understand
that
the
residents
of
Ottawa
you
know,
wanted
that
flexibility
and
to
counselor
Tierney's
comments
about
having
garbage
on
his
lawn
after
the
first
vote.
However,
long
ago,
I
had
a
resident
write
and
tell
me
that
every
time
they
see
garbage
they're
going
to
see
my
face
so
I
have
appreciate.
This
will
be
unpopular
no
matter
what,
but
I
do
think
we
have.
AC
A
G
You
very
much
yeah
Mr
chair
a
quick
question
for
staff.
Can
you
confirm
how
many
tickets
or
other
enforcement
mechanism
type
actions
that
have
actually
been
taken
in
some
type
of
time
period?
Maybe
annually,
or
what
have
you
for
the
over
six
bags?
Has
anything
or
have?
Are
there
any
statistics
on
any
type
of
enforcement
that
has
happened
with
extreme
bad
examples.
N
Through
you,
Mr,
chair,
I,
would
say:
I
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
me.
I
can
certainly
take
that
back
to
the
team
to
to
look
at
that
particular
to
see
if
we
do
have
that
data
to
provide
it
to
you.
The
one
thing
I
will
note
is,
as
we
had
identified
and
included
in
the
staff
report
is
that
we
are
not
actively
enforcing
the
existing
six
item
limit
and
that
has
traditionally
you
know
when
we
have
we've
tried
to
enforce
a
bylaw.
N
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
a
question
I
think
for
for
councilor
Brown.
With
regard
to
your
motion,
if
we
were
to
pass
the
the
the
councilor
durash's
motion
with
regards
to
the
auditor
general
report
cycling
if
there
was
to
be
a
delay
of
six
months
or
a
year
or
what
have
you
in
order
to
allow
that
work
to
happen
from
the
broader
Solid
Waste
master
plan
perspective?
G
M
G
G
And
then
on
top
of
that
we
have
15
tags
provided
for
each
calendar
year,
just
looking
at
the
behaviors
over
the
next
year.
If
we
mimicked
what
we
had
in
in
2022
data,
we're
getting
close
to
nine
million
dollars
in
cost.
If
behaviors,
don't
change
and
I
understand
that
what
we're
implying
is
there
will
be
about
a
six
percent
diversion,
so
we
would
see
six
percent
less
than
that.
But
my
my
first
read
of
the
cost
that
we
would
be
looking
at
with
a
pays.
G
Go
a
pays,
you
throw
program
or
sorry
not
cost
the
cost
to
the
residents.
What
they
would
be
paying
out
for
these
comes
to
almost
eight
to
nine
million
dollars.
So
I
just
want
to
confirm
is
that
is
that
the
ballpark
that
you're
you're,
seeing
this
in
terms
of
the
cost
to
consumers
or
the
the
garbage
tax
they'd,
be
paying.
N
G
N
Okay,
thank
you
counselor.
So
the
the
thank
you
for
the
clarification,
so
the
anticipated
Revenue
year,
one
is
in
and
around
450
000
per
year,
recognizing
that
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
be
able
to
to
estimate
the
impact
of
how
many
households
we
anticipate
May,
purchase
additional
tags
and
that's
likely
to
reduce
to
about
400
or
to
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
that's
based
on
kind
of
the
reduction.
The
tonnage
reduction
estimates
that
we
have.
N
G
D
Chair,
if,
if
I
can
elaborate
on
on
a
couple
of
points
that
was
made
the
because
it's
been
made
a
few
times
around,
the
this
is
only
buying
us
two
years
of
the
landfill
and
I
I
just
need
to
clarify
that
context.
Yes,
we're
getting
additional
landfill
life
and
every
year
of
the
additional
landfill
life
is
probably
a
million
to
three
million
in
savings.
D
So
that's
definitely
a
in
that
Savings
of
the
city,
but
at
some
point
we
will
be
beyond
the
current
landfill
sites
and
anything
that
we
can
do
to
reduce
the
cost
and
what
we're
actually
processing,
whether
it's
at
a
landfill
site,
whether
it's
at
a
an
alternate
facility,
there
will
be
an
ongoing
savings
to
the
city
into
the
taxpayers.
Before
that,
our
focus
and
and
the
two
reports
that
we
had
today
are
very
much
interconnected.
D
We
want
people
to
be
recycling
more
because
basically,
the
taxpayers
no
longer
pick
up
that
cost.
So
the
more
we
can
get
that
stream
out
of
the
waste
stream
is
a
direct
benefit
to
to
taxpayers.
We
haven't
factored
that
in
to
the
discussion,
but
that
is
a
savings
by
by
diverting
more
more
waste
getting
Organics
out
and
we're
being
very
transparent
in
terms
of
the
the
cost
figures,
because
the
1.4
or
the
1.5
million
actually
includes
close
to
500
000.
D
And
when
we
have
the
next
collection
contract,
we'll
make
sure
that
basically,
we
try
to
minimize
basically
what's
being
collected
through
leaf
and
yard
waste
through
that
organic
contract,
so
that
we
can
send
it
to
the
leaf
and
yard
waste.
So
there's
even
opportunities
that
over
time
that
we
will
not
be
incurring
that
additional
cost.
D
A
Site
I
just
want
to
thank
the
the
general
manager
for
that
I
think
that
was
probably
the
most
important
point
of
the
discussion
that
I've
heard,
even
if
you're
in
favor
of
of
full-on
incineration,
just
let's
burn
as
much
as
we
can
in
the
future.
You
still
need
to
divert
to
save
money,
you're
not
going
to
save
without
diverting
right.
So,
even
if
you
have
the
position
of
let's-
let's
burn
it,
if,
if
you
don't
divert
your
costs
are
going
to
go
up
exponentially
regardless
of
the
long-term
solution
and
I.
A
H
So
instead
of
four
bags,
it
would
be
three
that's
one
amendment
I
would
like
to
propose
and
the
other
matter
is
counselor
cars
motion,
Amendment
recommendation,
one
two
bank
limit
and
her
motion
has
three
therefore
clauses
and
chair
I'm
not
trying
to
cause
trouble,
because
procedurally,
this
one's
messy
I
have
the
option
of
voting
in
favor
or
against
the
clauses.
I
support
the
Clause
that
talks
about
a
bi-weekly
limit
of
two
garbage
items
set
out
every
two
weeks,
but
I
don't
support
the
reference
to
the
bag
tag
program.
H
So
I
could
propose
an
amendment
that
everything
that
refers
to
the
bag
tag
in
the
first.
Therefore,
Clause
all
of
clause
number
two
and
the
word
untagged
in
Clause
3-
be
voted
on
as
a
separate,
so
I
just
wanted
to
park
that
for
now,
but
what
I
like
about
this
motion?
Is
it
talks
about
a
two
item
limit
which
I'm
supportive
of
but
I,
don't
want
to
vote
for
anything
else?
It's
hard
to
split
that
out.
A
H
P
Thank
you,
chair
and
thanks
again
to
stuff
for
all
the
work
you've
put
into
this
and
and
for
the
better
good
of
our
of
our
city.
I
appreciate
it
very
much.
I
want
to
get
some
clarification
in
terms
of
counselor
cars
motion
and
common
paths,
because
they're,
not
always
in
terms
of
multi-residential
their
individual
homes,
but
they
may
use
a
common
pad,
and
that
might
be
a
problem
if
you
don't
have
tags,
because
that
you
know
something
like
that
photo
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
that.
P
P
N
N
In
terms
of
our
approach,
the
staff
recommendation
that
you
see
today
and
kind
of
the
the
the
requirement
for
tagging
all
pieces
of
waste.
That
was
one
of
the
means
in
terms
of
our
recommendation,
make
it
easier
for
our
for
our
collection
staff
to
be
able
to
identify
those
items,
as
is
the
case
today.
We
would
work
pro
well,
first
and
foremost,
we'd
work
proactively
with
those
condominium
associations.
We
have
been
we've
actually
thoroughly
engaged
a
number
of
different
condominium
associations,
as
well
as
the
eastern
Ontario
landlords
Association.
N
As
part
of
our
engagement
in
developing
this
policy,
bringing
those
perspectives
to
to
the
table
so
looping
back
with
them
as
part
of
implementation
planning
on
working
with
them
on
more
targeted
Communications
to
their
tenants.
Their
residents
on
on
the
policy
changes
to
make
sure
that
they're
well
informed,
but
also
working
with
them
on
a
more
regular
basis,
especially
as
we
to
deal
with
issues
as
they
pop
up
on
an
as
needed
basis,
but
also
to
help
work
through
some
of
the
concerns
and
considerations.
Especially
if
there
are
issues
of
increased
illegal
dumping.
N
Three
Mr
chair-
my
apologies,
counselor,
so
in
terms
of
what
I
would
recommend
that
we
take
away
through
through
implementation
planning
would
be
looking
at
so
instead
it
may
be
an
opportunity
for
just
those
thousand
properties
to
look
at
a
tagging
requirement
for
for
all
of
those
bikes,
and
that
could
be
something
that
we
discuss
with
the
the
property
management.
So
much
smaller
impact
in
comparison
to
the
you
know:
306
000
single-family
homes,
but
that
would
be
something
that
would
help
us
in
easing
and
make
it
easier
for
for
enforcement.
P
X
That
was
rather
again
hastily
done
and
the
circumstances
at
that
time.
So
I
kind
of
feel
that
way
today
that
the
report
certainly
looks
good,
it
sounds
good
and
it
might
even
make
us
feel
good,
but
I've
sort
of
vowed
that
I
I
don't
want
to
go
through
a
similar
experience
that
I
lived
when
we
brought
in
the
the
green
bin
and
again,
we've
been
here
less
than
a
year.
X
So
I
do
think
that
we
have
some
time
to
ask
the
auditor
to
look
at
the
data
and
the
assumptions
that
are
going
into
this.
The
targets,
the
life,
the
lifespan
of
the
landfill
in
part,
because
we
know
that
the
information
that
we
have
is
imperfect.
It's
not
like
the
water
department
that
has
pretty
good
data
because
we
have
it
metered,
it's
not
like
electricity,
where
it's
meter.
This
is
one
where
they
need
to
do
some
sampling.
They
need
to
do
estimations
and
again,
I.
X
Think
I
would
feel
certainly
more
confident
in
in
making
a
decision
on
this.
If
we
had
the
auditor
general
look
at
this
and
I
acknowledge
that,
certainly
there
would
be
some
displacement
in
her
work
if
she
chose
to
undertake
this,
but
again,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
big
decision
and
it's
one
worthy
of
having
a
second
look
on
the
data
that
is.
X
And
I
think
that's
been
very
much
a
theme
of
this.
This
Council
right-
it's
not
hopefully
not
blaming
previous
councils
but
saying
let's
learn
from
previous
councils
and
let's
Implement,
better
decisions
with
the
information
that
we
have
from
either
a
commissioner
inquiry
or
the
work
of
the
auditor,
general
and
I
think
this
is
a
case
here,
where
I
think
we
all
benefit
from
that.
X
So
if
it's
for
that
reason,
I
put
that
forward
Mr
chair
again
to
help
us
make
a
decision
now
and
what
will
be
critical
for
us
for
making
some
longer
term
decisions
as
well
and
as
we
heard
from
the
auditor
general
she's
already
going
to
undertake
our
review
of
this.
This
is
really
accelerating
a
piece
of
this
that
will
fold
into
the
work
that
will
ultimately
give
us
an
even
broader
picture
in
terms
of
how
we've
done
with
Waste
Management
so
appreciate
the
time
and
the
consideration
that's
been
given
to
that
motion
today.
A
What
we're
talking
about
here
today
is
obviously
an
independent
internal
change.
That's
not
this
large
140
million
dollar
contract,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify.
That's
the
comparison
that
we're
using
here
in
terms
of
the
audit
plan
coming
in
I.
Just
wonder:
do
you
see
a
different
difference
in
those
two
things.
X
Yeah
sorry
sorry
sounds
sounds
like
debate
chair,
but
no
I
don't
see
a
material
difference
share
between
a
decision
involving
Waste
Management
that
was
made
in
previous
years,
where
there
were
limitations
in
the
data
that
came
before
us
and
those
was
that
was
data
that
came
from
staff
and
the
decision
that
we're
making
today.
So
no
I
don't
see
a
difference.
Chair.
A
X
Z
Thank
you
chair
and
chair
I,
just
want
to
clarify
I,
have
a
question
from
my
colleague,
counselor
Hill,
based
on
a
comment
he
made
earlier.
Am
I
allowed
to
ask
a
question
on
my
colleagues.
Yes,
you
are
counselor
Hill,
so
a
few
minutes
ago
and
I
I
think
I
hope
I
can
get
this
right.
You
were
asking
counselor
Brown
whether
or
not
he
believed
that
his
proposal
I.E
four
bags,
no
tags
could
run
concurrently
with
the
AG
investigation.
That
would
come
from
the
duroche
motion.
Z
Should
that
motion
be
successful
and
I
presume
that
by
asking
that
I
presume
that
you'd
be
comfortable
with
that?
But
earlier
in
the
debate
you
had
said
that
one
of
your
concerns
over
moving
forward
with
a
residential
pay,
as
you
throw
program,
is
that
you'd
rather
wait
until
such
a
time
as
when
we
have
all
of
the
various
strategies
on
the
table,
be
it
multi-unit,
residential,
commercial
or
otherwise,
and
I
believe
that
you
were
suggesting
that,
for
you,
the
best
strategy
is
to
have
all
the
options
on
the
table
before
deciding
on
individual
measures.
G
The
short
answer
is
no,
and
the
medium
answer
is
I.
Do
think
this
is
a
complex
problem
that
we
need
to
look
at
holistically.
However,
the
Simplicity
about
the
brown
motion
is
simply
that
it's
four
bags
no
tax
in
my
mind.
We
could
do
it
in
two
months
time
with
a
good
communication
strategy
to
the
public,
say:
hey
we're
going
to
go
from
six
bags
on
enforced
four
bags,
firm
limit
and-
and
there
we
go
done.
Thank.
Z
You,
if,
if
Simplicity,
is
the
greatest
rationale
for
for
choosing
one
tactic
over
the
other
and
whereas
I
can
see
you
know
in
five
seconds
four
bags,
no
tags
is
really
simple.
I
can
also,
perhaps
guess
that
let's
say
the
the
car
motion,
two
bags
no
tags
and
then
attack
afterwards
with
enough
communication.
That
could
also
be
seen
as
simple,
but
do
you
not
see
the
inherent
Simplicity
of
what
could
be
as
what
general
manager
Gontier
was
suggesting
in
that?
Z
A
J
So
from
what
I
understood
from
this
discussion
today
is
that,
with
the
car
motion,
it's
expected
to
result
in
more
diversion
than
the
brown
motion.
Therefore,
it's
expected
to
extend
the
role
of
the
Trail
Road
Landfill
longer.
Therefore,
there
would
even
be
a
greater
Delta
between
the
cost
of
the
two
motions
am
I,
correct.
AB
A
A
Exactly
so,
the
order
is
how
we
read
them
in
so
first
is
the
directions
that
have
been
given,
so
we're
going
to
ask
for
staff
confirmation
to
really
to
take
those
directions,
if
not
we'll
vote
on
those
directions.
There's
the
King
direction
for
Johnson
the
king
Direction,
then
there's
the
hill
Direction
I'm,
also
going
to
just
check
in
on
the
Kavanaugh
Direction
separate
to
that
following
that
was
the
king
education
plan
motion
after
that
was
the
car
motion.
A
A
A
AB
A
Yeah,
no,
no
I
appreciate
appreciate
that
I
think.
Obviously
one
is
a
larger,
comprehensive
change
more
similar
to
I
think
what
staff
recommendation
is,
one
is
is
more
modest,
and
so,
if
that
car
motion
fails,
then
obviously
council
is
looking
for
something
more
modest
and
we
would
go
to
that
to
that
change
and
if
it,
if
the
car
motion
does
pass,
there
are
some
recommendations
in
the
brown
motion
that
we
would
then
still
be
able
to
vote
on
that
wouldn't
relate
to
it.
A
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
move
to
the
directions
and
motions.
Okay,
all
right.
So
the
first
one
up
here
is
the
direction
to
staff
from
counselor
Johnson
from
Council
King
on
behalf
of
councilor
Johnson,
and
it
just
wanted
to
check
in
with
staff
on
this
you've
accepted.
You've
accepted
this
direction
from
counselor,
Johnson
and
King.
A
A
N
N
A
Okay,
so
it
that
jives
with
that
direction,
generally,
though
that
seems
I
was
in
favor,
it
seems
generally
supportable.
So,
okay,
that's
great
perfect
in
that
there
was
also
the
counselor
Kavanaugh
Direction,
which
I
think
counselor.
You've
probably
been
asked
to
write
it
out
to
staff.
It
kind
of
came
on
the.
P
A
A
I
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
really
note
that
it's
very
important
that
we
provide
enhanced
education
about
the
changes
to
the
curbside
and
waste
diversion
policy.
This
is
why
I
was
happy
to
work
with
both
councilor
Johnson,
as
well
as
the
counselor
Kavanaugh
to
emphasize
education,
as
well
as
ensuring
that
we
work
with
all
communities
so
that
the
implementation
of
this
is
more
streamlined.
So
I
really
just
wanted
to
thank
both
my
colleagues
for
the
collaboration
on
on
the
motion.
A
Fantastic
thanks
for
that.
Can
we
carry
that
motion
carried
okay,
any
decides?
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
counselor
King.
The
next
motion
is
the
vice
chairs
motion.
That's
the
two
bag!
No,
no
tags
on
the
first
two
bags
tags
after
that,
as
well
as
the
15
additional
tags
at
no
cost
with
no
expiry
date
and
the
household's
permission
on
the
third
untag
garbage
item
I
have
recognize.
A
H
So
chair,
there
is
no
wording
to
provide
colleagues
at
this
time.
What
I
would
just
repeat
is
there
are
three
Clauses
in
this
motion
and
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
here
is
that
basically,
any
reference
to
a
bag
tag
program
would
be
deleted.
So
in
the
first
therefore
Clause
it
would
say
the
report
be
amended
to
read
and
I
would
simply
keep
a
bi-weekly
limit
of
two
garbage
items
set
out
every
two
weeks.
H
Everything
after
that
would
be
deleted
in
that
Clause
Clause,
two
referencing
15
tags
would
be
deleted
and
Clause
3.
The
word
untagged
because
there
will
be
no
tags,
would
be
deleted.
So
I
am
accepting
the
proposal
for
two
bags
per
collection
period,
but
then
all
other
references
to
bag
tag
would
be
deleted
and
I
suggest
that
be
sort
of
a
bundled
Amendment.
We
deal
with
it
all
together,
because
they're
all
connected.
A
Okay,
no
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
get
at.
It
may
in
fact
be
better
for
Council
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
go
to
staff
on
the
proposed
amendment
at
this
time,
so
it
it's,
it
would
be
eliminating
the
the
tag
system,
as
well
as
the
the
15
additional
tags,
obviously,
as
well
as
the
two
extra
items
of
the
holiday
period.
So
just
looking
to
get
staff
comment
on
the
amendment
to
the
car
motion
and
I
think
counselor.
A
H
E
N
Certainly,
thank
you
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
counselor.
So
in
terms
of
the
the
revised
recommendation
of
a
two
item
limit,
I
think,
first
and
foremost,
just
just
highlighting
that
that
does
sit
at
the
the
it
aligns
with
industry
best
practice
in
terms
of
setting
the
setting
the
the
set
out
limit
at
or
or
below
the
average
setout.
N
However,
recognizing
that
transition
that
away
from
a
pay
as
you
throw
model,
so
it
reduces
flexibility,
so
flexibility
for
for
households
and
residents
who
are
wanting
to
set
out
additional
waste
above
and
beyond
that
limit,
I
think
just
just
highlighting
and
recognizing
that,
through
the
set
out
study
data,
we
did
see
that
household
setouts
do
fluctuate
from
collection
to
collection.
So
it's
just
recognizing
that.
With
this
pretend
this
model,
it
will
likely
result
in
less
flexibility
for
households.
A
H
A
A
This
is
something
that
I
know
would
have
much
broader
support
with
the
additional
15
tags
for
that
flexibility,
we've
seen
for
lower
income
families,
larger
families,
as
well
as
speaking
to
the
holiday
period
And
as
I
understand
it.
Another
motion
will
be
coming
forward
to
council
around
farming
communities
and
our
farmers
in
Ottawa
and
flexibility
for
them
at
Council,
so
I
think
on
this
one
I'm,
supportive
of
it
I,
certainly
on
the
broader
motion.
I
want
to
get
staff
comment
on
this.
N
All
waste
again
was
to
to
provide
some
additional
flexibility
to
Residents
recognizing
the
varying
set
out,
but
also
to
help
with
enforcement,
so
it
would
represent
first
and
foremost
a
you
know,
a
less
of
a
change
to
Residents
so
not
requiring
every
single
item
to
to
be
to
be
Tagged
so
potentially
seeing
as
more
favorable
it's
you
know,
there
would
also
there
would
be
some
some
funding
implications
as
well.
So
I
would
anticipate
that.
N
You
know
there
wouldn't
be
that
that
additional
cost
of
printing
and
mailing
out
the
additional
tags,
so
certainly
within
that
first
year
or
two
to
mail
out
that
allotment
of
15
additional
bags
I
think
the
the
original
stop
budget
as
proposed,
would
stay
in,
but
you'd
see
and
realize
those
savings
from
year,
two
and
Beyond
and
I
think
just
one.
Other
final
note-
and
it's
very
similar
to
to
what
I
mentioned
to
in
response
to
to
councilor
Brockington-
is
that,
with
the
two
item
limit
again,
while
aligning
with
industry
best
practice.
N
A
J
A
J
You
very
much
Sharon
thanks
to
everyone
for
the
discussion
today,
I
mean
obviously
over
the
past
couple
months.
We've
had
lots
of
public
discussion
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
media
coverage
about
this
proposed
partial
pays.
You
throwed
curbside
waste
diversion
policy.
You
know,
there's
been
a
lot,
that's
sort
of
referenced
it
as
the
only
component
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
and
in
fact
it's
one
of
many
and
we're
gonna
have
those
all
come
back
to
council
I've
heard
a
lot
of
people
say
that
we
need
to
discuss
everything
at
once.
J
Increase
wage
diversion
to
capture
those
Organics
and
recyclable
materials
from
from
the
waste
stream
to
reach
those
provincial
regulatory
policy
targets
specific
to
the
single-family
home
sector.
So
we've
heard
Lots
about
multi-family
residential
we've
heard
Lots
about
what
about
incineration.
We
still
need
to
meet
those
provincial
targets,
no
matter
what-
and
you
know
over
the
last
few
weeks,
I've
heard
from
thousands
of
residents
about
their
concerns.
J
I
I
believe
that
the
change
is
proposed
in
in
this
motion.
I
present
much,
you
know
support
for
much
of
what
we've
heard
we
already
know.
74
of
our
residents
put
it
up
two
bags
weekly
and
the
current
proposal
of
55
bag
tags
that
you
awkward
a
year.
That's
an
average
of
two
bank,
but
the
motion
I'm
putting
forward
and.
L
J
You're
right
experiment,
art:
it
was
developed
collaboratively
with
input
from
others.
Yes,
including
the
mayor.
It
proposes
that
we
don't
change
anything
for
that
74
of
residents.
Nothing
will
change
for
them.
They'll
still
be
able
to
put
it
out
to
Quebec
or
items
bi-weekly
without
the
nuisance
of
a
tag
or
the
administration
of
a
program
for
themselves.
But
noting
that
the
proposal,
the
staff
put
forward
had
the
55
tags
that
offered
a
little
bit
of
flexibility.
J
That's
a
security
blanket
in
case
they
don't
get
developed
in
time.
To
answer
some
of
those
questions
about
large
families,
that's
really
important
to
give
them
that
flexibility.
Perhaps
there's
a
try
and
counselor
Brockington
where
we
can
look
and
say
we
don't
need
the
administration
at
these.
You
know
tags
in
the
future,
but
I
think
right
now.
This
is
a
really
good
transitional
option.
J
J
J
J
J
I'll
also
just
say
you
know,
I
know
this
decision's
hard.
We
were
elected
to
make
decisions.
I.
Don't
actually
believe
that
any
of
my
colleagues
around
the
table
ran
on
a
platform
of
enabling
status
quo
and
not
making
decisions
and
we've
seen
the
impact
of
not
making
decisions.
You
know
we're
in
an
unfortunate
position
as
a
as
a
committee
and
as
a
council
you
know
the
results
of
views
of
deferring
decisions
and
not
making
them.
J
You
know
we
haven't
had
substantive
change
to
our
program
in
11
years.
I
know
that
it's
difficult
to
make
changes
and
that
they're
met
with
all
positions,
but
we
need
to
legislate
changes
to
behavior
and
as
one
of
the
few
of
us
around
the
table,
that's
actually
been
alive
for
more
than
50
years,
I've
seen
many
instances
where
it
was
necessary
to
legislate
to
change.
Behavior
I
mean
I
only
have
to
look
back
to
the
days
when
the
air
and
the
Ponderosa
was
blue,
because
there
was
no
delineation
between
the
smoking
and
non-smoking
sections.
J
You
know
we
drove
around
in
the
back
of
station
wagons
with
simulated
wood,
paneling
listening
to
the
eight
track,
with
no
car
seat
or
seat
belt.
Not
only
with
car
seats,
not
mandatory,
but
seat
belts
went
either.
We
need
to
legislate
change
to
change
behavior
when
I
was
young,
there
was
no
recycling,
we
would
throw
away
our
glass
bottles
of
marshmallow,
fluff
or
cans
of
fruit
cocktail.
J
J
A
Very
much
Vice,
chair
well
said
so
I
just
want
to
check.
We've
got
committee
members
here,
I
see
everyone
in
place
is
counselor
Curry
online
are
here
she's
she's
she's,
not
here,
okay!
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
guess
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote
on
on
this
a
recorded
vote
Yes
and
nays
at
counselor
Kevin
did
you
have
something
sorry
I
see
your
hand
then.
A
C
K
J
A
A
So
we've
heard
from
staff
throughout
the
meeting
that
there's
essentially
very
little
change
here,
compared
to
what
we're
currently
doing
and
that's
how
I
see
it
as
a
status
quo
motion
personally
so
staff
did
you
want
to
comment
on
the
the
brown
motion
and
I'll
I
apologize
that
councilor
Brockington?
You
may
have
an
amendment
on
this
first,
so
did
you
want
to
read
in
that
Amendment?
My
apologies.
H
V
A
Z
A
A
P
G
J
A
N
A
M
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
and
I
do
appreciate
the
comments
by
colleagues
around
the
table
today.
Long
days,
Council
Brockton
had
indicated,
but
I
hope
the
end
is
near
colleagues.
This
plan
is
moderate
and
it's
acceptable
to
Residents.
It's
not
heavy-handed
and
it
doesn't
punish
residents
for
living
in
this
city.
It's
very
clear
that
residents
aren't
in
favor
of
the
staff
report
and
I
think
you
know.
Certainly
the
car
motion
would
not
have
passed
the
smell
test
with
residents.
M
M
It
allows
residents
to
have
the
flexibility
to
live
in
this
city,
while
drawing
on
a
core
service.
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
support
this.
This
is
something
that
was
not
created
in
a
vacuum.
There
was
tremendous
amount
of
cooperation
among
several
of
our
committee
and
Council
colleagues,
and
there
is
support
for
this
from
the
public.
So
thank
you
very
much
chair,
I,
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
wrap
up
and
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
support.
P
P
A
My
apologies,
I
bought
Bradley
voted
a
different
way,
five
five,
so
that
motion
fails
as
well
we're
moving
now
to
the
Kessler
Brown
motion
on
behalf
of
counselor
de
Rush,
I,
think
Council,
yeah,
Council
duration
is
with
us,
so
I
can
give
you
an
opportunity
to
wrap
up
after
we
hear
staff
comment
on
this
and
I'll
have
brief
comments
on
it
as
well.
I
think.
For
me,
the
important
distinction
in
this
motion
relates
to
the
2011
contracts
that
is
referenced
in
the
motion.
A
AB
A
A
They
action
those
recommendations,
including
recommendation
one,
which
asks
staff
to
have
a
process
for
challenging
Consultants
statements
and
assumptions
to
ensure
they
are
reasonable
and
supported
by
data.
This
time,
around
staff
have
ensured
that
that
data
is
secure.
The
AG
considered
this
recommendation
addressed
by
the
work
done
by
the
SSO
contract.
Renegotiation.
The
staff
have
continued
those
practices
since
that
the
they've
also
shared
the
documentation
from
the
CDO
project
with
the
AG's
office.
A
As
part
of
a
follow-up
audit
to
assess,
if
staff
in
fact
have
been
continuing
to
follow
the
recommendations
of
that
2011
contract
and
have
accepted
as
having
met
the
original
recommendation,
so
this
would
not
just
do
this
audit
on
top
of
it.
It
would
delay
this
decision
again
and
we've
seen
this
as
a
Hallmark
on
this
committee.
The
request
to
delay
decisions
after
good
work
has
gone
on
for
years
and
years
to
get
to
a
point
where
we're
ready
to
make
a
decision,
we've
educated
and
we
have
an
implementation
plan
that
will
be
phased
in.
A
D
Sure
the
only
thing
that
I
would
add
is
that,
certainly
as
part
of
the
process
from
the
beginning
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
and
we've,
we've
already
had
two
phases
that
have
been
tabled
with
Council.
This
is
this
is
in
between
basically
phase
two
and
phase
three
we've
been
very
transparent
with
Council.
Basically,
all
of
the
information
that
we've
provided
in
terms
of
the
analysis
is
part
of
the
documentation.
That's
been
put
forth
before
Council,
including
this,
including
this
report.
D
At
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
a
decision
of
council,
but
we've
tried
to
be
as
transparent
as
we
can.
The
other
piece,
too,
is
where
this
is
not
about
trying
to
introduce
a
totally
new
policy.
It's
really
to
continue
to
advance
the
city
in
terms
of
its
Recycling
and
diversion
targets,
so
it's
really
building
on
previous
programs.
D
So
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
basically
provide
you
with
all
of
the
analysis
from
the
public
engagement,
the
analysis
from
the
Consultants
to
set
out
studies.
All
of
that
data
is
before
you
in
terms
of
helping
to
support
a
decision
ultimately
and
I.
Think
we've
heard
it
around
the
council
or
the
committee
table
is
around
trying
to
contribute
continue
to
increase
diversion
rates,
and
this
is
really
the
basis
for
the
report.
That's
before
you.
X
Thanks
chair,
I,
guess,
I
just
start
by
saying:
I'm
really
not
sure
what
we're
gonna
actually
audit.
If
this
is
approved,
because
nothing
is
coming
out
of
committee
and
that's
unfortunate
so
I
guess
the
the
Icebreaker
will
happen
at
Council
and
if
there
is
a
decision
there
I
hope
we
will
agree
to
advance
an
audit.
That's
already
going
to
take
place
much
sooner,
so
that
we
can
avoid
that
situation
down
the
road
of
us,
potentially
saying
gee
if
I
would
have
known,
then
what
I
know
now.
X
This
is
your
opportunity
to
know
now
to
ask
the
auditor
to
look
at
the
data,
which
is
the
Cornerstone
of
the
program
that
we
want
to
put
in
place,
and
this
is
one
where
again
we
don't
have
perfect
data.
It's
it's
sampling,
it's
estimates
and
well
there
was
some
good
work
into
it.
I
would
like
to
hear
from
the
auditor
general
and
in
my
ward,
I
probably
have
98
of
the
residents.
X
There
are
going
to
be
carrying
the
water
for
this
program
because
they're
diverting
waste
every
week
there
I
don't
have
very
many
multi-residential
units
in
my
ward.
So
you
forgive
me
if
I
want
to
if
the,
if
I
ask
that
we
get
it
right
so
that
we
don't
put
98
of
my
residents
through
something
and
have
very
little
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
again.
X
Ultimately,
this
is
going
to
feed
our
long-term
decisions
and
hopefully
decisions
that
we're
going
to
make
to
advance
the
multi
multi-residential
so
again,
I
wish
we
had
more
time.
Mr
chair
previous
Council
made
a
good
decision
to
allow
Plastics,
and
it's
really
really
unfortunate
that
the
mixed
messaging
on
that
I
think
confuse
resonance
and
set
us
back
and
I
think
we
would
have
had
more
time
to
make
a
decision.
So
thank
you,
chair
for
this
opportunity.
G
K
A
A
I'm
going
to
support
it
here
today,
too
I
believe
there's
a
better
compromise
that
we're
going
to
get
to
at
Council,
but
there's
a
lot
of
good
work
in
here
that
has
formed
the
basis
of
that
compromise,
so
I'm
going
to
support
the
current
staff
recommendation
with
the
hopes
that
at
Council
we
come
back
and
we
get
to
a
fulsome
decision
on
the
item.
So
I
think
with
that
I'll
go
to
yes
and
nays.
G
A
P
B
L
A
A
Q
A
A
G
Choice
allows
the
city
to
support
its
climate
change
objectives,
while
reducing
the
front-end
financing
barriers
to
home
buyers.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
investigate
options
with
financial
institutions
and
other
levels
of
government
for
green
financing
models
that
would
reduce
The,
Upfront
financing,
barriers
to
home
buyers,
considering
the
purchases
of
new
homes
with
green
and
energy
efficient,
Technologies
and
therefore
be
it
further
resolved.
That
staff
provide
an
update
on
this
effort
for
environment
committees,
review
by
q120
24.
K
A
A
We're
going
to
other
business
there's
something
else
in
front
of
you.
You
can
jump
in
after
that,
so
any
inquiries,
okay,
seeing
none
other
business
so
we're
a
vice
chair
Carr
has
a
motion
to
re-establish
the
solid
waste
counselor
sponsors
group.
So
counselor
Carl
just
get
you
to
read
in
that
motion.
If
there's
amendments
to
it,
we'll
we'll
hear
those
after.
J
A
G
Whereas
the
recommended
structure
does
not
provide
for
a
representative
mix
of
counselors
and
provides
disproportionate
influence
from
unelected
participants
and
whereas
Council
May
establish
subcommittees
to
address
specific
policy
matters
within
a
standing
committee's
mandate.
And
whereas,
unlike
a
subcommittee,
the
structure
of
a
sponsors
group
does
not
support
public
oversight.
Transparency
and
participation,
including
matters
such
as
formal
rules
of
procedure,
meeting
minutes,
open
meetings
and
public
delegations.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee
recommend
that
city
council
approve
the
establishment
of
a
new
Solid
Waste
subcommittee.
G
Be
it
further
resolved
that
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee
direct,
the
director
of
Solid
Waste
Services
in
coordination
with
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
to
circulate
an
expression
of
interest
for
membership
on
the
subcommittee
to
all
members
of
council
and
submit
the
proposed
membership
for
council's
consideration.
That
is
June
14
2023
meeting
and
be
it
further
resolved.
The
council
direct
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
to
work
with
Solid
Waste
Services
to
bring
forward
recommended
terms
of
reference
for
the
subcommittee
for
approval
by
the
environment
committee
and
Council
as
soon
as
possible.
A
Okay,
so
we'll
consider
that
motion
first
as
an
amendment
to
the
car
motion
I
have
concerns
about
it
because
I'm
not
on
the
committee,
so
I
don't
know
if
that
was
on
purpose
to
lead
me
off
there,
but
certainly
not
something
that
I
want
to
do
in
terms
of
the
chair.
Obviously
this
is
an
important
sub
sub
sponsors
group
and
certainly
the
chair
and
vice
chair
were
included
previously
I.
G
G
It
provides
more
transparency,
provides
more
opportunity
for
this
to
be
a
formal
process
so
that
we
don't
get
mired
into
into
a
space
where,
where
there
can
be
complications
behind
behind
closed
doors,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
an
open,
Solid
process.
It's
fair.
It's
got
Equitable
representation
and
that's
the
purpose
behind
it.
Mr
chair.
AD
Mr,
chair
I'll,
take
that
one
and
if
solid
way,
staff
want
to
add
anything,
they
certainly
can.
A
subcommittee
is
a
formal
Committee
of
council.
It
abides
by
the
same
rules
of
procedure
as
a
standing
committee
similar
to
our
light
rail
subcommittee,
for
example,
a
sponsors
group
is
usually
established
to
work
with
staff
at
an
earlier
stage
in
report.
Preparation
and
staff
would
then
bring
any
feedback
from
the
sponsors
group
in
their
own
recommendations
to
committee
and
Council.
So
they
are
different
entities,
usually
at
different
stages
of
a
project.
G
Z
A
If
we
expand
this
to
be
a
sponsors
group
of
six
counselors
plus
the
chair
plus
the
vice
chair
and
another
representative
of
the
mayor's
office,
you
start
to
get
to
a
pretty
large
group
and
obviously
this
motion
was
meant
to
exclude
and
I
think
even
in
the
friendly
men
it
would
exclude
so
I
I.
Don't
think
we
should
pass
this
motion
here
today.
I
think
we
should
stick
to
the
original
recommendation,
I'm
going
to
go
I'm
going
to
go
to
counselor
Carr.
Now,
unless
you
have
a
point
of
order.
AB
J
L
A
AD
J
A
J
D
G
Well,
thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
and
you
know
just
to
to
to
give
that
wrap
up.
There
is
a
significant
amount
of
engagement
right
now
on
solid
ways
to
get
this
right.
You
know
it
didn't
come
up
at
the
beginning
of
the
term,
so
we
couldn't
have
said
it
then,
and
I
don't
really
want
to
wait
until
midterm
to
do
it
then,
and
as
we
just
heard,
it
is
appropriate,
as
Council
sees
fit
from
time
to
time
to
do
this.
This
is
why
I've
raised
it.
It's
not
about
being
exclusionary.