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Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2023
Time: 9:30 am
Location: Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West, and by electronic participation
A
Hi
everyone
we're
going
to
get
started
now.
Welcome
to
the
final
environment
committee
meeting
before
a
summer
break
we'll
resume
back
in
in
the
fall
The
Counselor
Curry
has
indicated
that
they're
at
the
hydro
Ottawa
board
meeting
today,
I
believe
everyone
else
is
here,
but
we'll
start
with
a
roll
call.
Chris.
B
A
You
very
much
I
want
to
start
by
recognizing
that
we're
on
the
unseated
unsurrented
territory
of
the
Algonquin
anishinaabe
people
for
our
meeting
today.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest
okay,
seeing
none
we'll
move
to
confirmation
of
minutes.
The
minutes
are
issued
separately
and
uploaded
to
SharePoint
on
the
portal
on
Friday,
June
16th
or
the
minutes.
Four
of
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee
meeting
of
Monday
June
5th
confirmed.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
We've
got
a
few
responses
to
inquiries
that
are
on
the
agenda.
I
understand
councilor
Brockington
on
the
rap
mitigation
I
know,
councilor
Tierney
has
had
a
had
one
on
that
too.
Around
radson,
Beacon,
Hill,
cereville
and
I
understand.
There's
a
motion
to
lift
that
item
onto
the
agenda.
A
I
I
understand
it'll,
be
short.
If
it's
short,
we
can
do
it
right
away
and
if,
if,
if
not
we'll,
do
it
at
the
end
of
the
agenda?
So
just
a
couple
questions
counselor,
thank
you
chair
and
we'll
just
do
a
motion
to
get
it
on
the
on
the
agenda
here
from
Vice.
D
The
pursuant
to
subsection,
89
3
of
the
procedure,
bylaw
being
bylaw
number
2022
410,
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee,
approved
that
the
rules
of
procedure
be
suspended
to
allow
for
the
consideration
of
the
item
listed
as
item
four
responses
to
inquiries.
Occ
202-306
rat
mitigation,
4.3
cps0422
rats
in
Beacon,
Hill,
servo,.
E
You
chair
and
thank
you
colleagues
I
was
happy
to
see
the
reply
to
the
inquiry
from
staff.
That
indicated
a
reconstitution
of
the
working
group.
There's
been
a
lot
of
feedback,
obviously
that
led
up
to
this,
but
since
this
was
released,
a
number
of
inquiries
within
my
ward
and
across
other
Wards
and
the
question
chair
is
simple.
E
People
would
like
to
know
that
the
working
group
is
going
to
be
action
oriented
and
there
is
a
desire
to
understand
how
the
workings
of
this
working
group
will
be
made
known
to
I
guess
this
committee,
whether
the
working
group
intends
to
report
through
this
committee.
People
are
very
keen
to
understand
how
they
can
City
how
the
city
can
be
more
engaged
in
Rat
mitigation
and
I.
Guess
it's
more
of
a
governance
type
question:
how
will
the
actions
and
the
decisions
of
the
working
group
be
communicated
outward
either
through
this
committee
or
publicly?
F
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
the
working
group
has
been
re-established
and
it's
a
multi-disciplinary
group,
so
we
have
members
from
across
the
city,
including
from
planning
from
Public
Works
infrastructure
and
water
services
and
bylaw
Services,
we're
also
including
our
partners,
which
are
our
own
Ottawa,
Community,
Housing
and
Ottawa
Public
Health.
So
the
intention
of
the
working
group
is
to
work
in
collaboration
to
identify
best
practices
and
to
collect
data.
So
we
are
going
to
have
a
centralized
complaint
line
that
people
can
send
emails
to
and
working
with,
3-1-1
to
better
understand.
F
You
know
where
the
complaints
are
coming
from
and
to
identify
specific
actions
for
those
specific
neighborhoods
if
which
direction
from
accounts
are
from
committee,
we
can
report
back
on
an
annual
basis,
if
that's
the
preferred
approach,
but
we're
open
to
suggestions
on
how
you
would
like
to
have
that
information
reported
back.
E
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
think
that
what
I'm
looking
for
for
me
to
be
able
to
communicate
back
to
my
residences,
given
that
we're
just
going
into
summer
and
rat
inquiries
and
issues
across
many
Wards
will
continue,
is
how
will
the
city
be
more
engaged
in
assisting
on
particular
private
property?
E
The
issue
of
rats,
because,
to
date,
once
the
city
hears
is
private
property
they
sort
of
back
off,
and
so
that's,
where
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
tease
out
of
the
working
group
is
what
type
of
concrete
actions
can
we
expect
from
the
working
group
to
assist
communities
that
are
reporting
a
higher
concentration
of
rats
than
than
normal,
and
the
expectation
is
that's
going
to
be
sooner
rather
than
later.
E
So
I
almost
want
to
see
a
report
back
in
September
a
chair
with
an
update
on
how
the
working
group
fared
over
the
summer
months,
because
I've
got
to
report
back
to
my
community,
so
I
mean
I
I,
don't
mind
working
with
staff
offline
after
today,
but
something
has
to
change
and
that's
why
it
was
raised.
So
thank
you,
chair,
okay,.
A
No
I
appreciate
that
and
I
know,
there's
a
kind
of
list
of
actions
that
the
city
can
take
with
regard
to
mitigating
this.
This
issue
in
many
Wards
helpful
to
go
through
that
I
know.
I
see
other
hands
up
now,
so
maybe
a
long
longer
item
than
we
anticipated
counselor,
Kavanaugh,
counselor,
King
and
then
Council
Tierney
Council
cabinet
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
councilor
Brockington,
for
for
raising
this.
This
is
something
that's
been
happening
in
my
ward
as
well,
and
it
seems
to
be
related
to
construction
and
that
that
seems
to
be
and
and
that's
a
speculation
perhaps
but
but
that's
the
pattern
and
I'd
like
to
learn
more
about
it.
Obviously
we
want
to
mitigate
Ottawa.
Public
Health
has
excellent
notes
on
it
and
we
hand
them
out
regularly,
but
sometimes
the
you
know,
and
as
as
councilman
Brockington
is
saying.
G
If
it's
on
private
property,
you
know
we
want
people
to
focus
on
what
they
can
do,
but
sometimes
it's
in
our
parks
and
we're
getting
sightings
there
as
well.
So
we
we
need
to
work
on
that
as
well
and
I
hope
we'll
have
that
kind
of
focus,
because
parks
are
are
a
concern,
especially
if
we
don't
have
garbage
picked
up
immediately.
So
is
there?
Is
there
conversation
with
the
work
coordination
with
the
parks
and
rec
on
that.
F
Mr
chair,
yes
through
you
to
the
counselor,
the
working
group
will
include
people
from
public
works
as
well
as
from
Wreck
and
culture
or
Recreation
and
Facilities
I
think
is
their
name.
So,
yes,
we
will
have
representatives
from
both
of
those
areas
to
address
any
concerns
and
issues
that
may
arise
in
those
locations.
I.
G
Appreciate
it
Dad
so
just
to
let
you
know
that
it
is
something
that
we've
been
hearing
for
for
a
few
years
here
and
it
seems
to
be
picking
up
and
that's
not
good
news.
So
hopefully
we
can
work
and
work
on
this
together.
One
thing
I
I
want
to
raise.
That
is,
would
we
consider
some
kind
of
bylaw
about
leaving
food
out,
because
that
seems
to
obviously
be
the
the
big
problem
is
feeding
and
where
they
get
food
sources?
G
And
you
know,
notwithstanding
the
excellent
recommendations
for
Ottawa
Public
Health
there
are,
there
is
food
left
out
at
times
and
and
I've
seen
that
Toronto
has
very
strict
laws
about
feeding
Wildlife.
Would
we
consider
that
as
well
Mr.
F
Chair,
yes,
we
are
looking
at
Best
Practices
in
other
municipalities
across
Canada
and
into
the
U.S,
and
definitely
education
about
food,
garbage
storage,
but
realizing
that
food
also
includes
bird
seed
and
bird
feeders.
So
you
know
there
needs
to
and
that's
where
we
will
Target
those
specific
neighborhoods,
because
perhaps
bird
feeders
need
to
be
removed
at
certain
times
of
infestation
and
other
strategies.
As
that,
so
we
will
be
coming
back
with
a
bunch
of
options
depending
on
what
the
issue
is
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
that
we
are
seeing.
G
H
King,
thank
you,
chair
and
I
just
want
to
express
appreciation
both
to
councilor,
Brockington
and
Tierney,
for
bringing
this
inquiry
forward
and
to
staff
for
the
establishment
of
the
working
group.
My
question
really
refers
to
the
the
scope
of
work.
I
know.
H
In
the
last
term
of
council,
there
was
a
rats
complaint
inquiry
that
also
went
to
community
and
protective
services
committee,
and
there
was
I
believe
that
motion
did
pass
and
there
was
supposed
to
be
work
undertaken
by
staff
to
assess
the
options
around
implementing
a
program
for
proactive
rat
baiting
in
terms
of
construction
projects
also
concerning
demolition
permits,
and
that
there
was
supposed
to
be
the
pursuit
of
policy
change,
change
around
the
building
code.
F
H
Excellent
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
wasn't
getting
lost,
because
I
think
that
that
report
was
submitted
to
committee
and
protective
services
Committee
in
the
last
term.
So
since
we're
before
environment
Committee
just
want
to
ensure
the
continuity
of
that
work.
I
And
thank
you
chair,
and
even
though
this
is
technically
Riley's,
rats
aren't
exclusive
to
Beacon
Hill,
so
I'll
just
be
very
brief,
and
and
make
make
note
of
the
fact
that
I've
witnessed
over
the
years
how
it's,
how
it's
changed
and
I've
continued
to
learn
a
lot.
A
lot
of
our
new
Council
colleagues
didn't
realize
the
three
departments
that
are
involved
that
have
to
coordinate
to
make
this
all
happen
and
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
about
the
centralized
line.
I
I
think
that's
really
important
to
be
able
to
to
get
that
information
to
Target,
because
the
Pied
Piper
is
not
going
to
get
these
things
out
of
our
city.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
that
will
continually
work
hard
because
it's
not
sewer
rats,
anymore,
they're,
surface
rats
and
and
it's
creating
a
lot
of
problems,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
all
her
hard
work
on
this.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Absolutely
there's
a
big
education
component
to
this,
as
well
with
with
residents
really
appreciate
that
counselor
tuning
Council
Bluff.
J
Thank
you
very
much
having
the
dubious
distinction
of
having
the
most
rat
complaints
in
the
city
in
2022
wanted
to
chime
in
on
this
I.
Had
the
GM
come
out
and
do
a
walkabout
in
in
our
neighborhoods,
where
we're
receiving
the
most
complaints
so
between
January,
1st
and
August
21st
2022
Orleans
had
100
rat
complaints
and
115
the
year
before
for
the
entire
year.
It's
this
is
becoming
a
major
problem.
J
You
know,
councilor
Tierney's
Ward
is
actually
15th
on
the
list.
This
is
a
massive
problem
across
the
city,
and
so
what
we've
been
telling
residents
is,
you
know
rats
need
three
things
to
survive:
right,
shelter,
food
and
water,
so
get
rid
of
your
bird
baths,
get
rid
of
your
bird
seeds.
You
know
any
any
piles
that
you
have
outside
even
wood
piles.
J
You
know,
move
them
in
either
into
your
garage
or
or
make
sure
that
they're
covered
or
don't
have
any
debris
whatsoever
outside,
and
then
we
would
go
and
bait
the
soup
Tour
on
the
street
six
months
later.
That
bait
is
still
there,
so
the
rats
are
not
going
into
the
sewer
anymore
to
to
drink,
which
is
what
we
had
originally
thought.
What
other
mitigation
methods
are
there?
We've
got
I've
got
one
resident
who
backs
onto
the
highway.
He
caught
78
rats
in
his
backyard,
with
his
own
rat
trap
last
year.
J
That
is
disgusting.
These
are
vectors
of
of
disease,
and
you
know
there's
several
news
articles
about
this
and
they
feel,
like
the
city,
is
doing
absolutely
nothing
to
help
them
and
are
saying
well.
This
is
a
private
property
issue.
You
know,
you've
you've
obviously
got
something
going
on
in
your
backyard,
but
then,
when
I
walk
around
with
the
GM,
you
know
we're
looking
at
edges
we're
looking
at
everything.
Everything
is
well
capped,
there's
no
debris
on
the
side
of
the
house
and
then
he
just
kind
of
scratches
his
head
and
says
like
well.
Listen!
J
It's
the
previous
GM,
this
question
so
like
I,
really
don't
know
what
more
we
can
tell
people,
because
they're
doing
all
of
the
things
that
we're
telling
them
to
do
so,
I
mean
if
you
had
a
resident.
That's
you
know
if
you
were
speaking
to
this
resident,
who
caught
all
these
rats
in
their
backyard,
what
what?
What
what
should
I
be
telling
him?
What?
What
more
can
he
be
doing.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chair.
It's
such
a
complex
problem
and
I
really
sympathize
for
people
who
are
experiencing
that.
We've
certainly
seen
that
in
councilor
brocklington's
board
as
well,
where
you
know
we
tried
to
do
baiting
and
it
just
as
in
your
neighborhood.
They
didn't
take
up
the
baits
and
that's
where
it
has
to
be
a
multi-pronged
approach
and
and
it's
getting
buy-in
from
everyone
within
the
community,
everyone
has
to
do
their
part.
Everyone
has
to
you,
know,
manage
their
green
bin
waste
appropriately,
remove
their
bird
feeders.
F
You
know,
trim
their
bushes
so
that
they're
two
feet
off
the
ground
and
it.
But
it's
not
an
easy
solution,
and
you
know
we're
certainly
going
to
be
here
to
help,
but
I
I
don't
think
we
have
any
hard
and
fast
answers,
unfortunately,
but
we
will
collectively,
throughout
all
the
various
departments
in
the
city,
work
together
to
try
and
mitigate
this
problem.
F
At
this
point,
we,
you
know
the
standard
Clause
is
we
do
not
exterminate
on
private
property,
but
you
know,
and
we've
tried
extermination
in
the
sewers
I
mean
we
will
look
at
other
opportunities
and
best
practices
in
other
communities
and
see
what
we
can
Implement
here.
So
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
on
the
table.
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
off
the
table
at
this
point
is.
J
F
Actual
sense
is
that
this
year
the
complaints
are
coming
down,
I
mean
we've
had
a
lot
of
media
around
it,
and
so
I
think
there
are
some
some
complaints
coming
in,
but
you
know
I
think
some
of
it
was
people
being
at
home
working
from
home
and
more
aware
of
what
was
happening
in
their
Community.
F
But
yeah.
We
continue
to,
you,
know,
take
the
311
data
and,
and
and
that
will
be
really
our
our
Bellwether
of
how
we're
doing
is,
you
know,
are
the
complaints
going
up
or
down.
J
Okay
I
mean
it.
You
know
we
we're
very,
very
concerned
about
this
issue.
I
mean
somebody
catching
that
many
rats
in
their
backyard.
This
is
somebody
who's
been
retired
for
20
years,
so
I
mean
like
I,
don't
necessarily
buy
that
you
know
this
is
just
from
people
working
from
home.
J
I
think
that
this
is
becoming
a
major
issue
and
certainly
look
forward
to
you
know
seeing
what
sort
of
measures
that
we
can
take,
because
I
can
imagine
that
this
this
list,
that
I
have
of
the
of
the
amount
of
complaints
was,
you
know,
published
the
CTV
News
I
can
imagine
that
you
know
given
the
interest
of
people
that
or
the
awards
that
were
at
once
at
the
bottom
of
the
list
and
in
2002
that
this
is
becoming
an
issue.
That's
a
little
bit
more
widespread
than
we
would
have
thought
before.
J
Yes,
you
know,
Council
attorney
was
was
clear
that
it
seems
to
be.
You
know,
highly
concentrated
in
areas
that
are
seeing
a
lot
of
construction.
That's
certainly
not
the
case
for
councilor
brockington's
Ward
at
least
not
the
same
sort
of
disruptive.
J
A
disruptive
work,
that's
happening.
You
know
on
the
174
Corridor
I
don't
know,
maybe
maybe
you've
got
a
lot
of
utilities
going
in
like
we
do
as
well,
but
it
seems
that
no
matter
where
there's
construction,
you
know
we're
seeing
the
disturbance
of
you
know
natural
habitats
of
rats.
These
are
highly
undesirable
creatures
and
I
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
everything
that
we
can
to
not
be
providing.
J
You
know
room
for
them
to
to
grow
and
breed
thanks.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you
very
much
counselor
luloff,
and
can
we
receive
this
item
committee
received?
Thank
you
very
much.
There
was
a
postponement
and
deferral
of
the
Taiwan
tree
cutting
matter
deferred
from
the
Monday
June
5th
meeting,
and
there
was
a
request
to
lift
that
on
the
agenda.
I
understand
that
since
then
that
that
response
to
inquiry
has
been
reviewed.
A
A
This
I
don't
believe
we
have
a
presentation
on
this
matter.
There
are
no
delegations
that
have
signed
up
on
this
matter.
Can
we
carry
this
or
what
can
we
like
to
hold
it
quick
question?
Maybe
you
want
to
do
that?
I
can
come
hold
and
come
back
if
it's
if
there
are
other
other
questions
on
it
or
no
okay,
let's
do
a
quick
question.
H
It's
a
very
quick
question:
I
was
just
interested
in.
How
much
will
we
save
by
utilizing
alternative
locates.
F
Mr
chair,
that's
a
good
question:
I
I'm,
not
sure
that
we'll
save
a
lot
of
money,
I
think
the
savings
will
be
in
time
right
now.
The
province
has
a
stopwatch
when
we
do
locates
and
last
year
we
really
struggled
to
meet
the
the
objectives
that
were
set
by
The
Province,
and
this
is
just
a
an
excellent
tool
that
will
give
us
some
a
little
more
flexibility
in
achieving
the
time
limits
that
are
established.
A
Thanks
very
much
counselor
King.
Okay.
Can
we
carry
this
item
thanks
very
much?
So
the
next
item
is
the
urban
Forest
management
Plan
update.
We
have
seven
speakers
registered
for
this
item
we'll
get
to
after
receive
a
staff
presentation,
so
I'll
ask
staff
to
to
come
up
and
and
give
that
presentation
and
after
that
time
counselors
can
introduce
motions
after
the
presentation
then
we'll
get
to
those
those
speakers.
A
L
A
Thanks
for
being
here
and
over
to
you
on
the
urban
Forest
management,
Plan
update
report.
M
M
Thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
Martha
cope,
steak,
I'm,
a
senior
Forester
in
the
natural
systems
and
Rural
Affairs
team
and
planning
real
estate
and
economic
development.
I'm
joined
today
by
my
colleague,
Tracy
Tracy
schwetz,
who
manages
the
forest
management
branch
in
the
public
works
department.
Also
joining
us
today
are
Nick
Stowe
who's,
the
program
manager
for
natural
systems
and
Rural
Affairs
Alan
Gontier,
the
general
manager
of
Public
Works
and
Don
herwire.
The
general
manager
of
planning
we're
here
today
to
present
the
urban
Forest
management
Plan
update
report.
M
N
M
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Sorry
I
should
have
checked
that
out.
First,
okay,
so
putting
down
roots
for
the
future
is
ottawa's
20-year
strategic
Urban
Forest
management
plan.
It
was
approved
by
Council
in
2017
and
implementation
started
in
2018..
The
plan
is
broken
down
into
five:
four-year
management
periods
which
align
with
the
terms
of
council,
the
ufmp
identified,
26
recommendations
or
projects
to
guide
and
improve
ottawa's
Urban
Forest
management.
G
M
And
those
projects
were
initially
slotted
into
work
plans
for
the
first
two
management
periods.
The
ufmp,
of
course,
is
jointly
implemented
by
our
two
departments:
Public
Works
and
planning,
and
the
plan
is
based
on
the
concept
of
adaptive
management.
So,
at
the
end
of
each
four-year
management
period,
a
review
is
completed
to
assess
the
status
of
implementation
of
the
plan's
recommendations.
M
Ottawa's
ufmp
is
a
community-built
plan
over
the
two
years
of
its
development,
a
large-scale
public
consultation
was
carried
out
that
provided
opportunities
to
engage
with
hundreds
of
residents
and
stakeholders.
The
input
of
stakeholder
groups
was
actively
taken
into
into
account
in
the
development
of
the
plan,
and
the
plan
was
made
much
better
for
it.
The
plan
provides
the
city
with
a
structured
approach
to
managing
ottawa's
Urban
Forest.
M
The
ufmp
has
put
a
sharp
focus
on
the
value
of
the
urban
Forest
staff
are
observing
a
much
broader
recognition
for
the
important
role
that
the
urban
Forest
plays
in
public
health,
both
physical
and
mental
and
climate
change
mitigation,
as
well
as
all
of
the
other
Associated
benefits
of
trees
and
cities.
There
seems
to
be
a
greater
commitment
to
the
urban
Forest.
Now,
a
theme
during
the
consultations
on
the
ufmp
and
then
again
on
the
tree.
Bylaw
review
was
the
need
for
a
culture
change
to
better
change
or
to
better
value
trees
in
Ottawa.
M
Acknowledgment
of
this
need
has
helped
staff
tackle
some
systemic
barriers,
and
that
has
enabled
an
overall,
better
integration
of
trees
into
decision
making
and
planning
and
development
scenarios
and
Beyond.
Of
course,
there's
still
work
to
do.
But
staff
are
now
seeing
this
culture
change
in
action.
We
can
change
the
slide.
M
The
first
management
period
of
the
ufmp
is
now
complete
and
a
second,
the
second
management
period
is
starting.
This
is
the
first
update
report
on
the
ufmp
and
it
includes
descriptions
of
the
work
accomplished
so
far
highlights
of
successes
and
an
overview
of
the
challenges
and
a
detailed
work
plan
for
the
second
management
period.
M
The
work
done
in
the
first
management
period
focuses
on
tree
protection
or
focused
on
sorry
tree
protection,
data
collection
and
integration.
The
feature
project
of
the
first
management
period
was
a
tree
bylaw
review,
which
resulted
in
the
development
and
implementation
of
a
new
tree
protection
bylaw
for
Ottawa.
The
project
was
focused
on
improving
the
protection
of
trees
in
the
urban
area
of
Ottawa,
specifically
in
infill
development
scenarios
by
developing
an
integrated
approach
to
tree
protection
with
transparent
tree
permitting.
M
M
The
new
tree
protection
bylaw
came
into
effect
on
January
1st
2021
right
in
the
pandemic
and
two
years
in
the
new,
the
implementation
of
the
bylaws
going
well,
staff
are
seeing
better
tree
protection
and
infill
development
and
at
a
site
level,
staff
have
been
able
to
identify
trees
for
protection
and
retention
early
in
the
process
and
identify
tree
planting
locations
as
well.
Trees
are
being
retained.
Now
that
would
not
have
been
in
the
past.
Staff
will
continue
to
closely
monitor
the
implementation
of
the
tree
bylaw
to
ensure
the
tree.
M
Protection
goal
is
being
realized
in
terms
of
data
collection.
A
baseline
canopy
cover
assessment
was
completed
in
Ottawa
in
the
first
management
period,
using
aerial
photos
from
2017..
This
was
a
joint
project
with
the
NCC
in
the
city
of
Gatineau.
The
canopy
cover
was
mapped
for
the
full
national
capital
region.
This
provides
a
baseline
data
set
for
Ottawa
to
use
for
future
comparisons
over
time.
The
canopy
cover
for
Ottawa
is
broken
down
across
the
city
by
Ward
and
by
neighborhood.
M
The
tree
canopy
coverage
for
ottawa's
urban
area
was
found
to
be
31,
but
it
varies
substantially
across
the
ward.
It's
not
equitably
distributed
staff
will
complete
the
canopy
cover
assessment
every
five
years
and
we've
already
begun
the
first
reassessment.
This
will
track
ottawa's
progress
towards
the
city's
40
canopy
cover
Target
over
time.
M
We
can
change
the
slide
and
in
terms
of
the
integration
piece,
this
one
seems
a
little
less
exciting,
but
it's
actually
pretty
important.
The
purpose
of
the
integration
work
is
to
foster
a
more
tree
aware,
Culture
by
expanding
awareness
internally
among
City
staff,
who
make
decisions
that
may
affect
the
urban
Forest.
So
this
is
behind
the
scenes
stuff.
This
work
has
shifted
the
culture
on
trees
and
helped
to
expand
internal
Awareness
on
the
policies
in
place
to
protect
and
enhance
the
urban
Forest.
So
I'll
go
over
a
few
examples
of
this
integration.
M
This
resulted
in
zoning
require
in
a
zoning
requirement
for
front
yard
soft
landscaped
areas
which
are
sufficiently
sized
to
allow
space
for
trees
existing
or
newly
planted
this.
This
was
applied
to
Zoning
for
all
neighborhoods
within
the
green
belt,
and
a
similar
approach
was
then
applied
in
both
the
Westborough
and
R4
zoning
projects
for
rear
yards
as
well.
This
landscape
first
approach
is
fundamental
to
ensuring
space
is
provided
for
trees
in
residential
development
scenarios.
M
Foresters
will
continue
to
work
with
the
zoning
team
to
advance
the
integration
of
trees
into
the
new
zoning
bylaw
and
the
last
integration
piece
that
I'll
mention
is
the
integration
of
Foresters
into
the
project
to
update
the
local
Street
cross
sections
for
many
years.
The
challenge
was
to
ensure
that
space
was
made
for
all
competing
elements
in
the
right-of-way.
The
Foresters
helped
to
provide
information
on
trees,
soil
volume
and
required
offsets.
M
The
resulting
revised
Road
cross
sections
include
the
use
of
a
joint
utility
trench
under
the
sidewalks
and
adequate
setbacks
to
curbs
sidewalks
and
Foundations
to
support
tree
planting
along
streets
with
enough
space
for
the
soil
volume
needed
for
the
trees
to
grow
to
their
full
potential.
So
this
integration
piece
is
pretty
important,
foundational
type
work
and
it
will
be
built
on
in
the
next
management
period.
M
So
we
also
began
work
to
integrate
Urban
Forest
resources
into
the
city's
Asset
Management
reporting
staff
developed
a
forested
areas,
maintenance
strategy
for
city-owned
forest
and
Forestry
staff
began
to
Pilot
an
early
pruning
program
for
newly
planted
trees,
and
this
past
fall
a
stewardship
and
Outreach
coordinator
position
was
created
within
the
forest
management
unit
in
Tracy's
group
next
slide.
Please,
the
implementation
of
the
first
management
period
came
with
several
challenges
and
Lessons
Learned.
The
biggest
challenge
was
that
staff
in
capacity
was
not
sufficient
for
the
work
plan.
M
The
work
plan
for
the
first
management
period
was
quite
large
and
it
was
not
possible
to
complete
all
the
items
lifted
with
listed.
Excuse
me,
within
the
available
resources,
staff
have
learned
that
current
resources
provide
capacity
to
manage
just
one
large
project
at
a
time.
Extreme
weather,
of
course,
was
also
a
major
challenge:
Ottawa
and
the
surrounding
areas
contended
with
an
increase
in
serious
weather
events
over
the
last
five
years,
which
has
had
a
large
impact
on
the
urban
Forest.
M
These
events
included,
of
course,
several
tornadoes,
a
direct
show
and
more
recently,
an
ice
storm
along
with
several
years
of
spring
flooding.
These
weather
events
were
high
impact
events
that
were
a
drain
on
the
capacity
of
Forestry
staff,
and
this
is
all
in
addition
to
the
impacts
due
to
the
pandemic
as
well.
In
the
case
of
the
direct
show,
many
staff
in
forestry
paused
their
regular
work
for
months
for
storm
recovery
efforts.
This
delays,
the
implementation
of
regular
programming
such
as
tree
maintenance
and
tree
planting,
and
also
the
ufmp
project
work
as
well.
M
In
the
past
few
years,
there's
been
a
substantial
increase
in
interest
in
the
in
ottawa's
urban
Forest.
It's
clear
that
the
important
role
that
tree's
plant
cities
is
now
broadly
understood
and
the
expectations
for
ottawa's
urban
Forest
are
high.
This
is
a
good
thing,
an
absolutely
good
thing.
However,
this
increased
attention
means
an
increase
in
communication
on
trees
and
I'm
sure
you're,
seeing
that
in
your
offices
as
well
for
forestry
staff
and
both
planning
and
public
works.
This
puts
additional
pressures
on
staff
and
it
often
intensifies
around
these
extreme
weather
events.
M
Next
slide,
please,
the
work
plan
for
the
second
management
period
will
build
on
the
foundation
set
in
the
first
management
period,
and
it
will
take
a
slight
pivot
to
focus
on
tree
planting
tree
maintenance
and
Outreach
and
engagement.
The
feature
project
is
a
tree
planting
strategy
for
Ottawa
next
slide.
Please,
the
tree
planting
strategy
will
focus
how
the
city
will
achieve
we'll
focus
on
how
the
city
will
achieve
the
new
canopy
cover
Target
of
40
overtime.
M
Getting
to
40
canopy
cover
in
Ottawa
will
require
everyone's
participation,
homeowners,
renters
business
owners,
developers,
institutions
like
schools,
the
NCC
and
other
government
agencies.
It
needs
to
be
all
hands
on
deck
to
grow,
ottawa's
tree
canopy.
The
tree
planting
strategy
will
be
action
focused,
and
it
will
shift
the
city's
approach
to
tree
planting
from
reactive
to
proactive.
It
will
use
a
neighborhood
lens
and
the
city's
canopy
covered
data
to
prioritize
tree
planting
in
the
areas
of
the
city
that
need
it.
M
The
most
it
will
take
an
equity
approach
by
looking
at
socioeconomic
factors
and
Public
Health
Data
such
as
Urban
heat
mapping
to
prioritize
tree
planting
efforts
and
key
to
the
tree.
Planting
strategy
will
be
the
ongoing
integration
culture
shifting
work
to
make
systemic
improvements
to
remove
barriers
to
tree
planting
in
Ottawa
next
slide.
Please.
M
Some
of
the
elements
that
will
be
part
of
the
tree
planting
strategy
include
a
review
of
existing
tree
planting
programs
in
the
creation
of
new
programs,
for
example,
to
get
trees
planted
in
backyards
deepaving
projects
in
areas
that
lack
plantable
space
and
proactive
identification
of
planting
locations
on
City
properties
such
as
the
city
right-of-way,
a
focus
on
planting
larger
sized
trees,
known
as
caliper
trees
in
the
urban
area
and
opportunities
will
also
be
explored
to
leverage
funding
through
Partnerships
grants.
Sponsorships
and
other
elements
like
that.
M
The
idea
is
that
the
tree
planting
strategy
actions
will
be
rolled
out
for
approval
incrementally
over
time,
enabling
quicker
action
to
implement
without
Implement
change.
Sorry,
without
waiting
on
one
big
report
to
to
get
going,
staff
are
looking
forward
to
starting
this
project,
so
our
next
steps
are
going
to
be
to
develop
a
project
plan,
including
a
broad
public
consultation
plan,
to
create
a
framework
for
the
project,
including
principles
and
objectives,
and
to
launch
some
early
action
projects
next
slide.
Please
moving
on
to
the
other
elements
of
the
work
plan
for
the
second
management
period.
M
Again,
I'll
go
over
these
quick.
Basically,
it's
broken
down
into
six
categories
that
are
listed
here
on
the
slide,
and
so
some
other
things
for
tree
maintenance
staff
will
will
be
focused
on
developing
and
piloting
a
structural
pruning
program.
Asset
Management
includes
a
few
key
projects,
including
the
ongoing
tree.
M
Enforced
inventory
work
the
canopy
cover
reassessment
which
is
now
underway
and
will
provide
an
analysis
of
our
canopy
cover
change
in
Ottawa
over
the
last
five
years,
the
finalization
of
a
first
green
space
in
urban
Forest,
Services
Asset
Management
plan
for
Ottawa
with
the
asset
management
team
and
a
Wildland
fire
hazard
mapping
project.
So
this
one's
a
provincial
requirement
and
it
will
involve
the
mapping
of
Wildland
fire
hazards
in
Ottawa,
which
will
guide
the
management
of
the
city's
forested
lands
moving
forward.
M
The
second
management
period
will
also
include
an
urban
and
sorry
an
urban
Forest
Outreach
and
engagement
strategy,
which
will
be
developed
and
implemented
and
consultation
on
this
is
already
underway.
This
month
we
will
do
continued
integration
work
and
our
Focus
will
shift
to
the
new
zoning
bylaw
to
City
infrastructure
projects
and
the
climate
resiliency
strategy,
and
finally
tree
protection
will
continue
through
ongoing
implementation
enforcement
and
monitoring
of
the
tree
bylaw.
M
So,
of
course,
the
report
goes
into
details
on
these
and
document.
Three
of
the
report
is
a
table
summarizing
the
full
work
plan
next
slide.
Please
so
Ottawa
has
a
solid
plan
in
place
through
the
ufmp.
The
biggest
lesson
learned
in
the
first
management
period
is
that
there's
a
need
to
build
capacity
and
resiliency
within
the
city's
forestry
teams
to
deliver
existing
programs
and
services
to
respond
to
the
higher
level
of
extreme
weather
events
and
to
support
the
implementation
of
the
ufmp.
This
capacity
building
has
recently
started
in
planning.
M
A
temporary
Forester
position
was
created
with
funding
from
the
new
climate
change
budget
allocation
to
support,
ufmp
implementation
and
a
planning
Forester
position
was
approved
through
the
bill
109
resourcing
report
to
support
ongoing
tree
integration
into
planning
approvals
for
public
works
as
a
starting
point.
The
staff
report
before
you
today
recommends
the
immediate
creation
of
two
new
full-time
positions
by
leveraging
existing
funds
to
create
capacity
within
the
forest
routine
to
advance
the
important
work
under
the
ufmp
without
additional
capacity.
M
A
A
N
Good
morning,
Mr,
chair
and
counselors,
my
name
is
Leslie.
Cole
should
I
put
this
up
a
bit
more
sorry,
I
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Glebe
Community
Association
environment
group,
and
we
have
been
working
with
the
city
in
the
trees
for
trust
plan.
Canvassing
door-to-door,
encouraging
people
to
to
plant
trees
and
I
wanted
to
speak
to
the
Urban
Forest
management,
Plan
update
to
commend
staff
for
doing
creating
the
bylaw
that
that
protects,
trees
of
a
certain
size
and
creating
a
baseline
tree
canopy
and
tree
inventory.
N
We
would
like
to
see
that
in
the
next
year
the
bylaw
for
tree
protection
will
be
better
monitored
and
enforced,
having
lost
large
numbers
of
trees
with
the
construction
of
a
parking
garage
for
the
hospital
and
also
the
k-win
lands.
That's
a
concern
that
perhaps
the
fines
are
not
actually
being
enforced
for
tree
loss.
We
support
the
idea
of
additional
staff
for
the
next
four
years,
because
there
is
a
huge
amount
of
work
to
do
as
you
all
agree,
especially
as
members
of
the
environment
committee.
N
This
tree
canopy,
aim
that
we
have
to
move
from
31
to
40
percent
is
is
extremely
important.
Not
only
for
capturing
carbon
but
for
reducing
storm,
runoff,
improving
air
quality
and
providing
cooling
free
cooling
for
residential
areas
in
in
the
years
going
back
to
2016.
Our
group
has
urged
a
policy
of
automatic
replanting
of
trees
under
the
existing
program.
N
Trees
for
trust
homeowners
have
to
request
a
treat
and
many
people
don't
even
know
they
can
request
a
treat
and
in
many
places
in
the
Inner
City,
where
you
have
multiple
units
side
by
side
or
three
in
a
house
or
apartment
buildings.
You
the
owner.
There
is
not
the
person
that
we
find
when
we
canvas
door-to-door,
so
we
don't
have
a
way
to
encourage
them
to
put
a
tree.
When
you
know,
there's
no
tree
in
the
front
I
understand.
N
Montreal
has
had
a
program
for
a
number
of
years
to
replace
the
trees
that
were
lost
to
the
ash
borer
automatically,
so
they
go
and
they
plant
on
any
City
Boulevard
area
where
a
tree
has
been
lost
to
to
reduce
the
to
replace
the
the
shade
and
and
cooling
that
is
provided
by
that.
N
We
agree
entirely
with
the
idea
of
focusing
on
heat
Islands
as
as
an
area
to
plant
trees
and
the
idea
of
equity
and
social
economic
areas,
and
perhaps
there
could
be
that
the
kind
of
education
in
those
areas
that
we've
been
doing
as
Volunteers
in
our
neighborhood
to
tell
people
they
can
have
trees
planted
I'm,
hoping
that's
part
of
your
campaign.
N
One
of
the
things
I've
just
noticed
that
this
year
we
were
perhaps
so
successful
that
by
the
beginning
of
June,
when
someone
phoned
to
ask
for
a
tree,
they
said
sorry
we're
full
for
the
year
there
are
no
more
trees
available.
So
I
would
agree
that
you
need
more
staff
and
more
funding
to
be
able
to
fulfill
the
needs
that
people
are
are
seeing.
They
I
agree
with
your
perception
that
trees
are
widely
seen
across
all
neighborhoods
as
an
important
resource
in
our
city.
N
That
is,
there's
a
high
awareness
of
the
value,
as
as
the
Summers
get
hotter
and
hotter.
The
shade
on
the
streets
and
and
over
houses
is
extremely
important.
N
So
I
would
just
conclude
by
saying
that
the
Glebe
Community
Association
has
passed.
A
motion
is
sending
a
letter
to
the
mayor
and
counselors
with
and
motion
to
urge
you
to
adopt
a
proactive
planting
planning
strategy
with
Ottawa
staff,
automatically
planting
trees
on
city-owned
frontages
of
private
properties
to
achieve
the
40
tree,
canopy
coverage
necessary
to
mitigate
the
impacts
of
climate
change
that
we're
seeing
in
our
Ottawa
neighborhoods.
A
E
Thanks
chair,
thank
you
for
your
delegation
good
morning
to
you
right
now.
If,
if
I
were
to
lose
a
tree
on
the
city's
right-of-way
lens
on
my
front
yard,
for
example,
the
onus
is
on
me
to
call
the
trees
and
Trust
program
to
get
that
tree
replaced
and
I
I
do
not
accept
that
everyone
knows
that's
the
case,
but
I
also
don't
accept
the
fact
that
the
owner
should
be
on
the
the
resident
to
make
that
call
whether
or
not
a
tree
should
be
replaced
or
not.
It
should
be
automatic.
N
Yes,
absolutely
that's!
That's.
Why
we're
suggesting
this
proactive
thing
we
found
going
to
our
store
that
many
people
have
no
idea
that
they
can
request
tree
and
that
the
city
will
provide
it
free.
So
that's
exactly
why
we're
asking
that
you
allow
the
city
staff
to
do
it
proactively
and
not
wait
for
the
request.
A
O
Good
morning
everybody,
so
this
is
my
first
time
back
here
in
person
it
it
seems,
there's
less
people
than
there
used
to
be
so
I'm
Angela,
kellehertzog
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
cafes
Ottawa
has
some
local
environmental
leaders
Network
and
next
slide.
Please,
and
we
spend
the
rural,
suburban
and
inner
urban
communities
with
both
individual
and
organizational
members
in
the
network.
Next
slide,
please
there
we
are
so
I've
got
four
main
points
on
this
update
to
the
urban
Forest
management.
O
The
urban
canopy
and
trees
are
very,
very
dear
to
our
members,
and
it's
probably
the
premier
item
that
people
will
come
out
for
comment
on.
So
it's
it's
in
a
very,
very
important
issue,
I
think
for
all
parts
of
the
community
next
slide,
please.
O
Looking
at
the
update
that
we've
been
presented
with,
we
would
strongly
strongly
support
the
need
for
more
resources
in
terms
of
Staff.
The
FTE
request,
yes,
but
we
think
there's
also
a
gap
in
terms
of
services
and
material
resources
in
the
past
when
we've
been
in
touch
with
Forest
Services
saying
well,
how
is
the
budget
looking
we've
been
told
that
there's
a
balance
to
be
had
in
terms
of
staff
and
and
the
material
resources
to
to
plant
or
maintain
trees?
O
We
are
actually
very
worried
because
we
see
this
update
as
a
significant
scaling
back
in
ambition
for
our
Urban,
Forest
and
I.
Don't
know
how
carefully
the
members
of
this
committee
have
had
a
chance
to
compare
the
200
plus
page
of
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
in
this
update,
but
we
are
seeing
that
there
are
missed
deliverables
from
this
approach.
There's
things
being
dropped
and
we
think
that,
in
terms
of
the
Adaptive
management
approach,
this
is
not
being
really
fully
carried
out.
O
There's
some
less
lessons
that
we
could
learn
from
the
first
period,
which
would
actually
require
a
bolstering
of
resources,
and
we,
we
are
very
concerned
by
this
drop
in
ambition.
Next
slide,
please
in
terms
of
data
and
management,
we're
also
seeing
an
alarming
absence
in
terms
of
data
in
terms
of
public
requests
for
information.
We're
often
told
there's
no
capacity
in
the
staff
to
provide
us
with
data.
O
The
official
plan
calls
for
an
enhancement
of
the
urban
canopy
and
no
net
loss
for
the
the
rural
forests,
but
there's
no
data
on
the
trees
that
we're
losing.
So
how
can
we
be
possibly
tracking?
There
is
a
public
perception
by
many
of
our
members
in
our
Network
that
we
are
losing
the
canopy,
but
we
don't
have
the
data
and
I,
don't
believe
that
this
committee
or
the
city
council,
has
the
data
and
the
evidence
to
know
whether
we
are
growing
or
whether
we're
losing
canopy.
O
So
we
don't
even
know
if
the
direction
of
travel
is
is
correct
and
even
less
so
any
kind
of
detailed
data.
We
also
believe
that
getting
data
on
the
assessment
of
the
urban
canopy
every
five
years
is
not
adequate
for
counselors
on
a
term
of
council
to
influence
what
is
happening
in
terms
of
public
investment
in
canopy
next
slide.
Please
is
there
a
timer
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
could
be
displayed,
that
would
be
good
collaboration
with
the
community.
We
have
many
many
members
of
the
community
who
are
ready
to
volunteer.
O
We've
been
very
happy
that
we
have
got
support
from
forestry
services
in
terms
of
the
trees
and
Trust
cards.
We
have
volunteers
going
out
trying
to
inform
residents
that
the
trees
and
Trust
program
even
exists,
but
in
general
we're
seeing
that
there's
a
deep
prioritization
of
public
engagement
and
consultation
when
it
comes
to
Urban
canopy-
and
you
can
see
that
too.
In
terms
of
the
which
of
the
recommendations
for
management
period,
one
have
been
fulfilled,
so
the
consultation
engagement
strategy
is
not
in
place.
O
The
external
stakeholder
working
group
is
not
in
place
next
slide,
please
so.
Lastly,
we
very
much
appreciate
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
on
behind
the
scenes
and
in
terms
of
working
horizontally
that
this
is
time
consuming
and
invisible
to
the
public
in
many
cases.
But
when
we
look
at
the
big
picture
drivers
connecting
to
the
urban
Forest
management,
these
there's
it's
pretty
much
invisible.
So
in
terms
of
the
climate
master
plan
and
nature-based
solutions,
we
have
seen
zero
action
on
that
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure
master
plan.
A
O
Sorry,
I
can't
see
the
time.
Sorry,
okay,
so,
on
these
big
pieces,
we're
not
seeing
the
integration
next
slide,
please.
This
is
my
last
slide,
so
just
to
give
an
example
for
how
we
can
bring
together
storm
water
management
in
urban
Forest.
There
is
a
lot
of
international
practice
and
Technical
guideline
storm.
Water
management
costs
everybody
a
lot.
O
A
P
Thank
you
very
much.
I
know
you're
a
bit
rushed
at
the
end,
so
I
just
wanted
to
offer
the
opportunity
if
there
was
anything
in
your
second
last
slide
there
that
you
wanted
to
highlight
more
so
just
to
give
you
a
bit
more
opportunity
to
speak
to
that.
O
Yes,
let
me
see
the
second
last
slide.
I
have
a
printout
here,
yeah,
as,
as
you
know,
we
have
many
big
pieces
that
are
are
moving
through
the
the
agenda
of
this
term
of
council
and
not
least,
the
implementation
pieces
for
the
the
official
plan,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
is
are
huge
chunks
of
work
right,
so
I
think
having
Urban
Forest
management
capacity.
O
Where
the
update
basically
says
we
really
only
have
capacity
for
one
big
piece,
so
it
almost
seems
like
a
work
plan
for
one
person
right,
because
this
is
a
four-year
work
plan.
So,
if
you,
if
we're
saying,
we
can
only
do
this
strategy,
the
tree
planting
strategy
and
that
itself
will
not
be
one
piece
that's
coming
to
council.
How
are
we
having
the
capacity
to
connect?
O
The
urban
Forest
is
how
the
technical
guidelines
to
integrate,
for
example,
with
like
storm
water
management,
like
I,
was
saying:
how
can
we
start
integrating
with
the
climate
action
plan
in
terms
of
the
budget,
we're
seeing
that
the
forest
budget
is
going
up
by
about
three
percent
in
the
last
budget,
which
is
not
even
keeping
up
with
inflation?
So
how
is
this
going
to
result
in
no
net
loss
or
enhancement
of
the
urban
canopy
I?
It
just
seems
that
it's
very
under-resourced,
but
it.
D
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
your
delegation.
I
absolutely
agree
with
you
with
respect
to
the
under
resourcing,
which
is
why
I
put
the
motion
together
today
when
and
and
in
fact,
I
did
cross-reference.
The
original
Urban
Forest
management
plan
with
the
second
piece
and
I
noticed
that
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
items
that
were
originally
supposed
to
take
place
in
phase
two,
for
example,
the
pests
and
disease
management
strategy
which
had
fallen
off,
which
is
why
I
put
that
motion
together
today
to
try
and
have
a
better
understanding.
D
I,
don't
think.
The
two
additional
resources
that
are
being
requested
are
going
to
be
able
to
give
these
staff
the
capacity
they
need
to
meet
the
ambitious
goals
and
I
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
their
the
situation
that
they're
in
we
I
believe
we
have
unanimous
support
for
40
canopy
cover
around
this
table,
and
we
certainly
have
been
dealing
with
issues
in
the
in
the
past
little
while,
where
we
did
not
have
unanimous
support
around
this
table.
D
So
it's
a
huge
priority
for
me
to
get
that
information
to
understand
exactly
how
many
resources
are
needed
in
order
to
to
get
this
underway.
There's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
thank
you
for,
for
that.
O
Yeah
I
I
think
it
would
be
useful
for
this
committee
to
be
informed
in
terms
of
what
deliverables
are
are
being
dropped
in
this
update.
I
think
that
again,
this
is
not
clear
and
I.
I
think
that
this
drop
in
ambition
and
really
saying
that
we
are
having
a
major
downward
Revision
in
the
urban
Forest
management
plan.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Vice,
chair,
counselor,
Kavanaugh.
G
It
I
think
it
complements
what
we're
doing
I
mean
you
have
to
point
out
where
we
can
do
better
and
I
appreciate
that
I've
seen
examples
in
my
own
word
and
the
befores
and
afters
and
we're
starting
of
the
tree
bylaw
for
example,
and
it's
very
helpful
I
was
interested
in
what
you
were
talking
about
with
the.
If
I
got
it
right
with
storm
water
and
for
trees,
the
it
was
a
storm,
was
it
three
ditches
or
tree?
G
Is
that
right?
Is
that
what
it
was
trenches,
trenches?
Sorry,
I'm
I'd
like
to
see
more
trees,
when
the
thing
that
we
keep
coming
across
is
utilities
are
are
problematic
because
they're
everywhere,
that
seems
to
be
the
response.
I
get
when
I
talk
about.
You
know
right-of-way
Etc,
to
get
more
trees,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
the
the
tree
trenches
in
terms
of
storm
water
management,
especially
in
areas
where
we
have
nothing
but
ditches.
It's
there's.
G
No,
it's
not
piped
at
all,
which
is
good,
but
where
is
that
I
I
haven't
done
the
research
on
that,
but
where
is
that
being
done?.
A
You
can
just
turn
your
mic
on
there:
yeah
okay,.
O
So
I'm
gonna
try
to
answer
your
question:
counselor
Kavanaugh,
but
I'm,
an
economist
I'm,
not
an
engineer,
so
this
may
need
to
be
corrected
and
supplemented
later
by
a
city,
engineering
staff
and
I.
I
know
that
Martha
has
a
lot
of
knowledge.
O
The
right
of
way
would
have
the
individual
access
to
buildings
in
terms
of
the
utilities
and
that's
when
you
have
your
locate,
you
get
the
little
yellow
flags
and-
and
things
like
that,
so
I
think
to
say
that
the
utilities
are
everywhere.
O
That's
not
plan
a
right,
I
mean
obviously,
sometimes
Legacy
utilities
can
be
in
odd
places,
but
what
I've
described
I
think
is
is
the
intended
plan.
So
then,
in
terms
of
the
utilization
of
the
right-of-way,
if
you
look
at
the
incentive
program
for
rain
Gardens
that
we
have
in
some
parts
of
town
right
where
there
is
Landscaping,
where
what
you
do,
is
you
build,
like
you
dig
a
soaking
pit
so
that
there
is
more
area
for
water,
storm
water
to
flow
into
and
then
slowly
seep
away?
O
So
if
you
use
that
kind
of
soaking
pit
and
you
use
structural
soil-
and
you
dig
like
creeped
branches,
then
you
can
have
a
win-win
scenario
where
you
have
free
pits
where
the
water
can
infiltrate
and
you
can
absorb
the
water
rather
than
it
flowing
into
the
municipal
infrastructure
and
a
lot
of
the
compacted
right-of-way.
O
It's
it
technically
is
permeable,
but
practically
speaking
often
you
get
pretty
immediate
Runway,
especially
if
there's
heavy
clay,
so
that
could
be
a
huge
win-win
if
we
started
combining
the
idea
of
digging
tree
pits
and
then
also
planting
canopy
trees
in
in
those
same
ways
and
right
now,
the
trees
and
Trust
in
the
right-of-way,
for
example,
like
they
would
just
take
a
very
small
hole
for
that.
For
that
tree,
they
they
wouldn't
be
digging
a
larger
cavity
and
they
wouldn't
be
filling
it
with
the
gravel
or
structural
soil.
A
You
very
much
councilor
Kavanaugh,
really
appreciate
your
delegation
and
it's
important
I
think
that
we
push
in
the
next
phase
of
this
strategy
a
lot
of
things
that
you're
talking
about
here,
particularly
with
residents
helping
and
the
volunteers
that
are
ready
and
able
and
willing
to,
as
well
as
that
data
on
the
flyovers,
how
we
receive
that
data
and
how
often,
and
because
we
will
get
that
data,
obviously
and
we've
seen
studies
Carlton
we're
losing
our
tree
canopy,
but
we
need
more
data
and
so
just
appreciate
this
push
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
progress
on
this
as
we
move
to
the
next
phases
of
this
overall
management
plan.
A
So,
thanks
for
being
here
to
delegate
on
this,
our
next
delegation
is
Leslie.
Baird.
Q
Good
morning
my
name
is
Leslie
Baird,
and
this
is
kringen
hanine
and
we
represent
an
environment,
Action
Group
looking
into
what
was
Urban
Forest
management
plan
and
its
tree
protection
bylaw
of
2021.
members
of
our
group
are
drawn
from
the
Canadian
Federation
of
University
women,
cafes,
ecology,
Ottawa,
see
Paws,
Ottawa,
Valley,
Green,
Space,
alliances
of
Canada's
capital
and
others.
Q
We
are
concerned
that
weaknesses
in
these
two
documents,
supposedly
protecting
our
forest,
have
caused
Ottawa
to
lose
trees
faster
than
the
new
trees
could
be
planted.
The
city's
excellent
no-net
loss
of
trees
policy
because
of
exemptions
in
the
tree
protection
bylaw
fails
to
protect
the
canopy
in
the
Suburban
and
the
Perry
urban
areas.
Q
Q
The
tree
protection
bylaw
States
on
page
12,
a
distinctive
Urban
tree,
has
a
breast
height
diameter,
B
dbh
of
30
centimeters
or
more
and
a
distinctive
Suburban
tree
has
a
dbh
of
50
centimeters
or
more.
These
trees
require
a
permit
to
be
destroyed
and
there
are
compensation
requirements
on
private
property
lands.
Greater
than
one
hectare,
including
Woodland
areas,
on
either
side
of
the
new
Urban
boundary,
the
bylaw
states
that
a
permit
is
required
to
destroy
trees
over
10
centimeters
in
diameter.
Q
There
is
an
exemption
for
Farmland,
which
is
extremely
vague
and
requires
provincial
clarification
of
the
normal
and
I
quote
normal
Farm
activity.
Unquote
aspect
of
this
law,
some
weaknesses
that
we
have
found
in
the
tree
protection
bylaw
number
one
definitions-
are
vague
and
need
to
be
clarified
to
be
effective,
especially
defective
trees,
defective
tree,
permit
compensation,
value
and
farming
business
number
two
education
of
the
staff
needs
to
include
include
clear
guidelines
for
easily
implemented
decisions
without
interpretation
and
without
consultation.
Q
The
practice
number
three,
the
practice
of
clear
cutting
on
lands
for
development
in
Suburban
areas
needs
to
be
replaced
so
that
large
trees
are
included
as
part
of
the
development
plan.
We
suggest
the
following:
Corrections
number
one
clearly
State
the
federal
and
provincial
definitions
of
a
farm
and
quote
normal
Farm
activity.
Unquote
in
the
city's
protection
by
law.
It
should
not
be
necessary
to
consult
the
Ontario
Department
of
Agriculture
website
or
the
federal
income
tax
act.
Q
Q
Number
three
measurable
definitions
and
guidelines
are
needed
for
forests,
woodlands
and
wood
lots
to
properly
assess
and
manage
the
general
expectation
for
private
trees,
section
8-2,
States
and
I
quote
a
tree
permit
or
a
distinctive
tree
permit
is
not
required
in
the
following
circumstances.
The
injury
or
destruction
of
a
normal
Farm
practice
carried
out
as
part
of
agricultural
operation
by
an
agricultural
business.
Q
Agriculture
should
not
be
confused
with
lumbering
in
an
area
where
the
city
is
trying
to
protect
existing
forests.
The
Cutting
of
25
000
trees
by
a
development
company
is
a
logging
practice
number
four.
The
section
extending
protection
to
the
peri-urban
area
was
promised
and
needs
to
be
included
in
the
tree
protection
bylaw
as
soon
as
possible.
Q
We
call
the
city
of
Ottawa
to
change
the
agricultural
exemption
to
require
a
permit
to
remove
trees,
stating
the
number
and
size
and
the
actual
farming
must
take
place
within
three
years.
We
all
know
what
tragically
happened
at
the
Taggart
algo
algonquits
of
Ontario
parcel
and
finally,
to
act
on
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
to
promise,
as
it
promises
and
I
quote,
to
Monitor
and
make
required
process
changes
or
bylaw
amendments
to
the
tree
protection
bylaw.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation.
Vice,
chair,
Carr
has
a
question
yeah.
D
Sorry,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
just
have
a
clarification.
The
at
the
opening.
You
said
that
the
the
reason
for
you
alluded
to
the
fact
that
it
was
because
you
felt
that
it
was
because
of
exemptions
that
we
were
unable
to
meet.
The
targets
did
I
understand
that
correctly.
It's.
Q
Because
of
exemptions
that
trees
are
being
cut
and
the
exemptions,
the
description
is
very
general,
which
is
why
the
Tigard
and
algonquinav
Ontario
were
able
to
come
back
to
City
staff
and
say
we
can
use
the
agricultural
exemption
and
that
is
defined
by
The
Province
and
by
income
tax
as
to
what
is
the
farm,
and
so
it
makes
it
all
very
hard
to
implement
and
it
allows
a
loophole
that
now
is
holding
things
up
until
the
response
comes
back
from
the
Ontario
government
of
whether
this
is
really
a
violation.
D
D
Emerald
Ash
board
took
out
so
many
trees,
weather
events
the
trees
in
my
neighborhood
are
you
know
the
neighborhood
was
Farmland
when
it
was
taken
over
in
1950s,
we've
lost
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
trees
from
wind,
storms
and
Direction
and
prior
to
the
implementation
of
the
tree
protection
bylaw,
the
construction
that
that
was
taking
place
largely
from
about
2000
to
2015
before
it
came
into
place.
So
it's
really
just
for
me.
D
It's
those
factors
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
I
don't
see
the
impact
of
the
exemptions
in
my
neighborhood
and,
as
a
you
know,
inner
urban
outer
Urban
neighborhood
to
be
only
at
28
tree
canopy
in
an
area
where
I
have
so
many
parks.
I
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
they're.
You
know
from
my
perspective,
there's
lots
of
other
factors,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation
and.
Q
The
area
that
is
urban,
where
I
live
I
appreciate
all
the
things
that
you
are
saying
also
within
the
plan.
It
deals
a
lot
with
the
urban
not
so
much
with
the
suburb
and
then
the
Perry
Urban,
and
it's
in
those
areas
that
there
is
a
great
deal
of
clear
cutting
for
subdivisions
and
on
private
land.
A
forest
was
cut
down.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
Leslie
and
kranken
for
coming
out
today.
I
appreciate
your
passion
for
this
issue
in
terms
of
Taylor.
One
of
the
things
that
we
discovered
was
that
there
really
isn't
a
time
where
a
time
limit
on
when
agriculture
can
start.
When
you're,
seeing
your
your
you're
going
to
use
the
land
for
agriculture,
you
can
cut
down
the
trees
and
then
it's
not
it's
not
used
for
agriculture.
It's
it
just
left
that
way.
G
So
are
you
seeing
this
as
a
as
a
loophole?
I
think.
Certainly
a
lot
of
people
are
yeah
that
that's
a
concern.
We
have
it's
something
that
obviously
we
didn't
discover
until
this
happened
yeah
it
may
not
fit
into
exactly
what
we're
doing
right
now,
but
I
think
there's
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
in
the
future.
Since
the
it
doesn't
come
up
that
often
that,
but
and
we
usually
we're
trying
to
preserve
agricultural
land.
G
But
in
this
case
it's
the
forest
that
we're
trying
to
protect
and-
and
it's
the
that
switch
so,
but
if
you
just
cut
it
down
and
just
say
it's
agricultural
land,
but
there's
no
time
limit
on
when
you
should
be
starting
your
agricultural
practices
to
show
that
this
was
sincere.
Q
Q
You
in
the
city
of
Ottawa
trees
have
been
cut
overnight
by
developers
going
back
to
2010
when
the
last
old
growth
forest
was
removed
overnight
in
the
Kanata
area.
2014
2017
also
saw
those
tactics
and
talking
to
other
environmental
groups,
it
seems
developers
will
take
action
ahead
of
time
in
order
to
remove
the
environment,
damage
the
environment.
Q
So
there
can
be
no
environmental
assessment
because
there
is
no
environment
to
be
assessed
so
that
the
whole
incident
seems
very
very
worrisome
and
the
Suburban
areas
where
all
of
the
development
is
going
on
at
the
moment
in
the
Perry
Urban
is
where
it's
going
to
happen
in
the
future
and
when
I
went
out
to
see
the
site
that
had
been
cut.
I
was
amazed
at
how
huge
it
was
and
that
the
majority
of
trees
there
were
still
two
stocks
they
are
waiting
to
be
taken
away
were
larger
than
our
Definition
of
distinctive
trees.
Q
So
my
thought
was
that
the
distinctive
tree
qualification
was,
you
know,
far
more
extensive
in
the
25
000
trees
that
were
cut
than
we
realized,
and
so,
if
the
definition
is
is
not
implied
and
and
not
carried
out,
then
there
is
no
protection
for
this
kind
of
of
canopy
that
we're
depending
on
for
our
future.
Thanks.
A
Very
much
so
counselor
Kavanaugh
I
have
cancer
Divine
to
ask
the
question
as
well:
okay
and
just
we'll
just
stay
with
the
ufmp
report,
folks,
so
counselor
Devine
on
the
ufmp
report,
question
for
you
well.
L
Then
it
wasn't
a
question
on
the
ufmbis
just
wanted
to
briefly
thank
the
Delegate
for
for
raising
the
issue.
It's
it's
hard
to
to
look
at
our
restoration
goals
and
not
take
into
account
all
impacts
of
our
tree,
canopy,
whether
it
be
natural
disasters
or
large
tree
cutting
operations
and
I
just
wanted
to
reassure
you
that
there
still
are.
You
know,
counselors
are
still
looking
into
and
concerned
about.
L
You
know
screen
clearing,
as
it
may
have
happened
in
the
areas
near
kwin,
and
it
certainly
does
have
an
impact
on
our
goals,
and
so
we
will
be
able
to
continue
talking
with
this
offline.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
councilman
and
just
on
the
the
points
that
you
raised,
I
will
raise
some
with
staff
around
on
the
ufmp
around
the
the
30
versus
50
Cent
and
rear
diameter
at
base
height.
Of
course,
there
was
a
motion
last
term
on
that
and
I
know.
A
There's
been
work
done
so
I
want
to
hear
an
update
here
today
on
what's
happening
with
that
and
how
fast
that
can
occur,
as
well
as
the
next
committee
report
and
the
ambition
that
you've
talked
about
here
in
terms
of
what
comes
next
for
for
this
plan,
so
appreciate
you
being
here,
Elise
McCann
from
Enviro
Center
is
next
up
with
us.
Please.
K
R
R
So
some
of
you
may
know
our
organization.
The
next
slide,
please
so:
environment,
environment
Center
is
an
environmental
non-profit
and
since
1999
we've
been
providing
a
variety
of
programs
and
services
in
the
region
designed
to
help
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
we're
best
known
for
working
in
four
key
areas:
green
homes,
green
business,
Green,
Transportation
and
our
green
future,
and
in
addition
to
some
of
the
projects
that
you
might
know
us
for
that,
we've
lifted
listed
on
the
slide.
R
Recently,
we've
required
funding
to
host
to
run
a
pilot
program
in
Ottawa
with
Ottawa
Community
Housing,
where
we're
planting
three
mini
forests
and
working
with
the
communities
there,
as
well
as
doing
a
full
green
meaning
of
York
Street
public
school,
which
is
school
in
one
of
our
lowest
income
areas
in
the
region.
Next
slide,
please.
R
We
acknowledge
that
the
last
few
years
have
presented
a
number
of
challenges
for
City
staff
and
the
impacts
of
extreme
climate
or
storms
and
and
climate
change
events
on
our
city
and
the
impact
that
this
has
on
staff
and
how
that
had
affected
priorities,
and
we
appreciated
just
reading
about
those
understanding,
those
and
then
also
acknowledging
that
the
need
that
we
do
need
to
make
our
cities
more
resilient,
which
includes
trees
and
looking
at
the
urban
canopy.
R
So
next
slide,
please
a
few
things
that
stood
out
for
us.
We
appreciated
the
data
collection
that
was
done
and
understanding
the
urban
canopy
and
allowing
that
to
be
a
Baseline
and
points
of
measurement
going
forward
so
that
we
can
have
Clarity
on
the
assessment
tools
that
are
used
to
see
the
impacts
of
the
work
that
the
city
is
doing
as
well
as
others
in
the
region
and
the
30
criteria
and
indicators
for
sustainable
Urban.
R
Forest
management
are
important
for
those
monitoring
and
maintenance
objectives
and
evaluation
going
forward
the
increased
integration
into
City
departments
and
that
tree
culture
beyond
the
tree
team
I
think
is
really
important
and
well
maybe
it
isn't
perfect.
I
thought
that,
seeing
that
other
departments
were
taking
up
the
challenge
and
taking
action
in
those
areas
was
really
important
and
seeing
that
articulated
I
saw
that
as
a
very
positive
thing,
we
support
the
need
for
increasing
the
team.
R
Tree
Equity
is
something
that
we
hold
very
dear
to
our
heart
and
the
work
that
we
do
both
on
addressing
energy
poverty
through
our
Energy
Efficiency
programs,
but
also
in
this
case
in
ensuring
that
the
most
vulnerable
areas
of
our
city
are
prioritized
for
tree
planting
projects,
and
we
saw
that
the
city
is
using
socioeconomic
factors,
overlaying
that
with
existing
tree
canopy,
and
that
we
hope
that
that
will
continue
to
inform
what
projects
are
prioritized
in
the
future
and
that
an
equity
lens
be
used
to
prioritize
this
work.
R
And
then
the
piece
I
also
wanted
to
comment
around
leveraging,
Partnerships
and
and
the
community
effort
happening
across
the
city
both
to
potentially
collaborate
on
funding
opportunities,
but
also
on
the
important
work,
because,
as
was
noted,
this
cannot
be
done
alone.
This
requires
work
from
everybody
to
help
the
city
achieve
this
target
of
40
tree
canopy,
including
businesses,
private
land
owners,
the
city
Regional
efforts.
R
So
we
hope
that
we
can
collectively
learn
about
the
best
practices
that
are
held
happening
elsewhere
across
the
country
and
Beyond
examples
of
collaboration
and
that
we
can
collectively
move
forward
to
support
the
school.
So
we
recognize
the
complexities
of
the
work
and
the
update
being
presented.
We
hope
that
you
accept
and
support
this
update,
in
particular
the
capacity
the
Staffing
capacity
required
to
move
from
strategy
to
action
and
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
update
and
chair
and
counselors
opportunity
to
speak
today.
A
G
Thank
you
very
much
to
both
of
you.
What
I
love
is
that
I
get
to
see
you
out
in
the
community
and
and
that's
where
it's
really
important-
is
that
Grassroots
education
and
maybe
true
Roots
tree
roots
education,
we'll
call
it
that
but
I
appreciate
it,
because
it's
a
partnership
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
your
partnership
with
Ottawa
Community
Housing.
G
Not
all
communities
are,
are
you
know
able
to
reach
out
and
that
that
partnership
and
education
and
just
moving
forward
to
making
communities
better,
really
helps?
So
there
are
communities
that
are
motivated
to
improve
their
their
communities,
but
but
those
that
are
more
vulnerable
have
other
preoccupations
and
I
appreciate
that
work
that
you're
doing
so
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
very
much
back,
and
it's
just
that.
One
comment
as
well
as
they
focus
up
Auto
community
housing
is
to
ensure
that
they
have
you
know.
Housing
is
their
top
priority
and
those
collaborations
with
Partners
make
a
big
difference
for
advancing
these
other
types
of
projects
and
work
that
has
so
many
benefits
for
their
residents.
So
thank
you
for
commenting
on
that.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
for
your
delegation
up
next
is
William
Van
geest
program
coordinator
with
ecology,
Ottawa
leave
Williams
online
you've.
S
I
am
addressing
you
on
behalf
of
ecology,
Ottawa.
We
are
pleased
to
see
an
update
on
the
urban
Forest
management
plan.
We
were
closely
involved
in
consultations
for
this
plan
and
we
think
the
end
result
was
good.
We
also
want
to
acknowledge
how
critical
trees
are
for
our
city,
whether
sequestering
carbon
filtering,
the
air,
providing
habitat,
mitigating
the
heat,
island
or
Urban
heat
island
effect,
soaking
up
water,
providing
shade
and
beautifying
I
said,
of
course.
In
short,
we
do
well
to
implement
this
plan
and
to
do
so
as
expeditiously
as
possible.
S
The
update
before
us
lists
several
challenges:
many
centering
around
lack
of
resources,
for
example
the
update
reports
that
I'm,
quoting
here
current
resources,
provide
capacity
to
manage
one
large
ufmp
project
at
a
time
and
that
again,
quoting
Staffing
capacity
did
not
match
the
work
plan
in
the
first
management
period,
and
there
are
of
course,
delays.
For
example,
the
update
itself
was
delayed
by
a
year
at
the
same
time.
S
In
our
opinion,
the
city
should
not
treat
such
events
as
an
exception,
but
as
a
reality,
this
reality
should
be
reflected.
Structurally.
Resources
must
be
allocated
for
such
events,
so
that
dealing
with
them
won't
delay.
Implementing
the
ufmp,
indeed
acknowledging
extreme
weather
as
a
reality
will
become
all
the
more
necessary
as
such
events
increase
in
frequency
and
intensity.
S
S
S
S
We
also
noticed
a
scoping
down
of
the
urban
Forest
inventory,
collection,
maintenance
and
the
integration
into
the
city's
Asset
Management
program.
Both
of
these
initiatives
are
critical
to
protecting
the
trees
we
already
had.
Why
are
they
being
scoped
down
and
similarly,
similarly,
for
the
slower
implementation
of
the
words
of
the
update
of
the
tree
protection
bylaw?
What
justifies
this
delay?
S
Let
me
also
mention
that
that
investments
in
trees
return
substantial
Rewards
anywhere
from
2
to
12
times
12
times
the
initial
investment
according
to
a
2014
study,
and
as
an
aside,
it's
a
bit
shocking
to
me
that
the
only
entry
under
the
section
economic
implications
is
an
n
a
and
not
applicable
on
the
topic
of
our
canopy
targets.
We're
also
wondering
about
the
neighborhood
lens
that
this
update
promises.
What
are
the
mechanisms
of
this
lens?
How
will
neighborhoods
be
defined?
S
Will
this
fulfill
the
target
of
40
cover
per
neighborhood,
that
ecology,
Ottawa
and
many
other
groups,
including
the
4
000
people
who
signed
our
tree
petition,
have
been
urging
I'd
also
like
to
address
biodiversity?
This
update
mentions
biodiversity,
but
one
time
and
Native
species
in
only
one
location.
However,
trees
are
essential
for
supporting
biodiversity.
S
S
A
You
thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation.
I'll
see.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
at
committee-
okay,
I'm,
not
not
seeing
any
hands
up.
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
and
I
hope
you
stay
tuned
for
the
the
questions
that
will
come
to
staff
and
obviously
the
next
iterations
of
this
plan
so
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you,
Astrid
Nielsen,
you
are
up.
Next
we
have
two
more
delegates:
Astrid
Nielsen
and
then
Paul
Johannes.
A
T
Minutes
good
morning,
so
I'm
grateful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
in
support
of
the
motion
to
approve
the
work
plan
for
the
second
management
period
of
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
and
for
the
extra
FTS
to
support
this
work.
I'm,
a
forestry
consultant
and
a
large
portion
of
the
work
that
I
do
is
the
preparation
of
tree
reports
for
infill
development.
I
also
worked
at
the
city
of
Ottawa
for
seven
years
in
various
forestry
positions,.
T
T
The
results
have
been
effective
when
it
comes
up
to
educating
all
players,
as
Martha
had
mentioned,
particularly
City
staff
on
the
importance
of
trees
have
in
our
communities,
but
they've
had
less
of
an
impact
in
contributing
towards
a
40
canopy
cover
targets.
There
are
many
reasons
for
this
and,
in
my
experience
in
summary,
it
is
really
difficult
to
retain
trees
effectively
during
development
projects,
especially
when
the
density
density
is
being
increased
on
site
I
completed
an
analysis
of
58
trees
on
sites
one
to
three
years.
T
T
As
these
tree
policies
have
strengthened,
it
has
become
more
expensive
for
the
city
to
retain
trees
and,
in
my
opinion,
we
get
a
much
better
bank
for
our
about
by
investing
more
in
tree
planting
care
and
maintenance.
T
A
staff
worked
towards
a
ProActive
Management
model.
I
would
like
to
urge
council
members
to
be
thoughtful
and
selective
when
asking
for
their
support
and
public
reaction
to
tree
removal
and
rewards.
If
we
are
to
reach
our
intensification
targets,
trees
will
be
lost
as
a
result.
There
are
good
measures
in
place
that
have
been
put
in
place
over
the
last
five
years
to
protect
trees
where
possible,
and
we
need
to
focus
on
how
to
compensate
for
those
losses
in
a
fair
and
Equitable
way.
T
Some
mature,
wealthier
neighborhoods
may
lose
some
canopy
over
the
short
term,
but
with
proper
planning.
Some
of
those
losses
could
be
offset
through
aggressive
tree
planting
initiatives
in
those
neighborhoods
with
lower
tree
canopy
cover
where
trees
may
not
be
the
prime.
The
top
priority
for
residents
I
also
urge
staff
to
avoid
using
the
number
of
permits
issued
or
denied
to
be
a
measure
on
the
effectiveness
of
tree
bylaws.
So
many
outside
factors
impact
these
numbers
and
they
don't
reflect
the
good
work
that
is
being
done.
T
Finally,
the
importance
of
good
tree
maintenance
cannot
be
overstated
at
each
major
storm
event.
I
tour,
the
worst
hit
areas
and
a
common
theme
among
my
anecdotal
observations,
is
that
those
trees
that
were
not
well
maintained
fare
the
worst.
It
is
critical
that
we
maintain
those
trees
that
we
have
to
make
our
forests
more
resilient
to
climate
change.
The
same
is
true
for
ProActive
Management
of
invasive
pests
and
diseases,
an
increasing
threat
to
Urban
forests.
T
Only
last
week
the
first
case
of
Oak
Wilt
was
confirmed
in
Niagara
well,
the
first
case
in
Canada,
and
it
will
only
be
a
matter
of
time
before
it
hits
Ottawa.
It
could
kill
oak
trees
within
a
year
of
infection
and
a
lot
shorter
time
frame
in
some
extreme
cases
and
Studies
have
shown
that
municipalities
that
invest
in
prevention
of
spread
can
better
control
and
reduce
the
impact
and
cost
than
invasive
species
about
the
invasive
species
have
on
their
forests
and
as
invasive
species
and
climate
change
continue
to
devastate
our
forest
I.
T
You
know,
encourage
Council
to
continue
supporting
the
increase
of
resources
over
the
next
several
years
or
in
the
into
the
future.
And
finally,
in
my
experience
from
teaching
an
urban
forestry
course
at
U
of
T,
where
we
tour
different
municipalities
across
Ontario
I
can
confidently
say
that
Ottawa
is
a
leader
in
urban
Force
management
and
others.
T
Look
to
us
for
our
Advanced
policies
and
strong
leadership
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
our
city
is
ready
to
take
the
next
stages
of
the
urban
Forest
management
plan,
from
a
reactive
to
a
more
productive
approach
and
I
look
forward
to
being
part
of
this
exciting
initiative,
as
our
Urban
floors
continues
to
grow
and
provide
the
important
benefits
that
we
all
need
to
survive
in
this
warming.
Club.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
for
that
delegation.
I'm
not
seeing
hands
up,
but
I
do
have
just
a
question
for
you
around
just
just
given
your
extensive
experience
and
knowledge
in
this
in
this
top
on
this
topic,
I'm
wondering
how
you
see
getting
in
volunteers
involved
to
work
with
the
city.
I
just
know
in
my
community
I
have
people
counting
trees,
identifying
those
trees
and
and
monitoring
them
all
through
my
community
and
they're
doing
it
on
their
own
just
with
their
free
time,
because
they
care
so
much.
A
T
Great
question
and
I
think
about
this
all
the
time,
because
I
really
believe
that
this
is
you
know
the
Grassroots
is
what's
going
to
make
a
change
and
I
get
really
excited
when
I
see
yeah
the
neighborhoods
I
think
that's,
probably
the
one
that
you
might
be
referring
to
the
neighborhoods
program.
That's
that's
one
of
the
programs
out
there
there's.
A
Neighborhoods
there's
also
the
Old
South
tree
team
Louisiana
started
doing
counts
as
well,
so
yeah.
T
So
back
to
your
question,
though,
so
my
local
community,
I'm,
close
to
Hampton,
Park
and
I've,
worked
with
one
of
the
key
organizers
that
runs
a
lot
of
initiatives
there
and
she
is
frustrated
sometimes
that
the
lack
of
support
from
the
city,
basically
at
a
resource
level
and
she's,
indicated
to
me
that
what
would
really
help
for
a
forest
like
that
is
just
some
guidelines
on
telling
explaining
to
them
on
what
to
do
next,
like
may,
maybe
provide
some
sort
of
a
template
for
communities
to
be
able
to
develop
Force
management
plans
for
their
for
their
local
areas
and
and
and
if
available,
you
know
a
Forester
or
someone
with
that
similar
expertise
to
help
provide
that
guidance.
A
That's
great,
thank
you
and
obviously
in
the
resource
capacity
and
the
ambition
on
this
is
going
to
have
to
be
amped
up
in
the
next
little.
While
so
really
appreciate
that
Vice
chair
tomorrow,
yeah.
D
Thanks
I
just
had
a
follow-up
question
with
respect
to
volunteer
management.
I
I
completely
agree
that
it
would
be
lovely
to
incorporate,
volunteer
efforts
and
it's
something
that
I
previously
advocated
for
in
a
past
life.
The
challenges
that
I've
experienced
in
my
own
Community
are
competing
Community
groups
who
want
to
establish
consent
to
enter
agreements
and
and
have
their
own
ideas
about
what
should
be
planted,
how
it
should
be
planted.
What
neighborhoods
and
what
I
found
often
is
that
I
have
a
very
diverse
Ward.
D
T
Yeah
you
know,
I
haven't
seen
that
so
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
to
that
specific
issue,
but
I
think
the
more
information
we
have
on
tree
distribution,
Urban,
canopy
distribution,
will
maybe
help
identify
those
areas
that
need
it.
The
most
and
I
think
that's
part
of
from
what
I've
heard
that
is
part
of.
What's
going
to
be
happening
in
the
future.
Yeah.
D
That
was
something
I
was
really
pleased
to
see,
and
it's
been
a
huge
challenge
like
in
my
community,
just
with
respect
to
not
necessarily
Tree
Management
but
invasive
plant
management.
I've
got
my
wealthiest
communities
that
have
got
insurance
agreements
got
everything
in
place
and
and
the
rest
of
my
community
is
not
experiencing
it.
So
I'm
always
conscious
of
equity
issues,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation
today.
So.
A
Much
for
being
here
next
up
is
Paul
Johannes,
with
the
green
space,
Alliance
cannabis
capital.
U
Good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
having
me
this
morning,
so
I'll
be
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
Green
Space
Alliance
today.
So
we
welcome
this
first
report
on
the
status
of
the
ufmp
at
the
end
of
its
first
four-year
planning
period,
and
we
have
comments
on
the
report
itself
in
terms
of
content
and
substance
and
maybe
they're
sort
of
you
know
Lessons
Learned
or
things
that
we
might
want
to
take
into
account
for
the
report
for
period
two
period
three
period,
four
going
forward.
U
So
take
my
comments
and
that
in
that
context,
so
first
a
report
such
as
this
one,
which
is
focused
really
on
process
and
the
internal
functioning
of
the
plan.
While
that's
necessary,
it
needs
to
be
accompanied
by
an
outwardly
focused
report
that
talks
about
the
state
of
the
urban
Forest
itself.
That
should
be
a
companion
piece.
It
shouldn't
just
be
here's
operations.
What's
the
outcome?
U
What's
the
what's
the
actual
situation
out
there,
those
things
should
be
coming
together
to
committee
We
Believe,
so
and
at
this
time
I
know
the
information
is,
is
incomplete
and
it'd
be
difficult
to
provide
that
kind
of
report,
but
but
somehow
the
report
should
take
into
account
to
take
note
of
and
and
take
and
and
give
account
of
major
external
events
that
have
put
pressure
on
the
urban
Force.
U
We've
heard
about
the
tornadoes,
the
derecho
the
ice
storm,
but
we've
heard
them
as
reasons
for
not
being
able
to
do
the
work
we
haven't
heard
of
them
in
terms
of
what
damage
was
actually
done,
even
the
even
even
if
it's
we
don't
know
exactly,
we
have
ideas
of
you
know,
orders
of
magnitude.
That
kind
of
thing
should
be
included
in
a
report
like
this.
U
We
believe
the
you
know
ongoing
development
pressures
out
also
there,
and
that
kind
of
impact
on
canopy
cover
and
tree
inventory
should
be
referred
to
in
a
report
coming
to
committee
like
this
one
should
also
in
terms
of
a
major
development
over
the
planning
periods.
U
These
should
be
reported
on
and,
of
course,
the
tree
protection
bylaw
was
adopted
in
the
period
and
that
was
reported
on
in
terms
of
the
bylaw
was
adopted
and
worked
on,
and
there
are
as
well
some
sort
of
qualitative
statements
made
about
the
efficacy
of
the
of
the
bylaw,
but
it
it
would
be
I
think
it
would
benefit
the
report
to
come
with
either
concrete
examples
of
the
application
of
the
bylaw
in
its
various
contexts:
distinctive
trees,
large
developments
and
and
or
statistical
information
on
the
actual
application
of
the
bylaw.
U
How
many
distinctive
trees
were
preserved?
How
many
permits
were
granted
to
remove
distinctive
trees?
How
many
fines
were
levied
over
the
period
for
contravening
the
bylaw
basic
kind
of
information
like
this?
To
tell
us
about
really
what
has
been
the
efficacy
Beyond
General
statements,
I
think
would
be
useful
to
have
that,
so
there
ought
to
be
this
type
of
statistical
digest
associated
with
the
report
like
this
coming
to
committee.
U
The
again,
this
type
of
data
has
not
been
completely
developed,
but
at
least
like
specific
examples
of
the
operation
of
the
Biola
under
its
different
parts
would
be
instructive.
Like
specific
cases,
you
know
here's
a
situation
where
here's,
what
staff
did
here's,
what
the
situation
was?
Here's
how
trees
were
protected
in
this
particular
instance.
That
would
be
it
would
be
useful.
U
I
think
it'd
be
useful
for
the
community,
be
useful
for
us
useful
for
members
to
get
an
appreciation
for
how
the
biolation
fact
working
as
well
the
you
know
how
the
bylaw
failed
should
be
reported
on,
and
you
know
a
case
in
point
has
come
up
already,
which
is
the
the
Tailwind
deforestation.
U
So
a
loss
of
this
magnitude
during
the
reporting
period
should
not
pass
under
silence.
I
mean
it
should
be
reported
on
in
in
the
report
and
steps
taken
to
address
the
shortcomings
of
the
bylaw
should
also
be
commented
on.
We
know
there's
work
going
on,
we
know
we
we've
talked
about
it,
it's
been
referenced
and
so
on,
but
why
isn't
it
in
the
report?
There
should
be
something
in
there
saying
here's
what
we're
going
to
do
about
it
in
the
next
planning
period.
U
Another
major
development
over
the
planning
period
was
the
adoption
of
the
official
plan,
and
that
is
reported
on
with
policies
directly
relevant
to
the
urban
Forest
management
plan.
But
there's
there
was
also
a
commitment
note
to
develop
a
new
Urban
forest
and
res-based
master
plan,
and
this
provides
the
policy
anchor
for
the
ufmp
and
and
it's
critical
to
have
that
policy
anchored,
so
that
the
plan
is
not
just
kind
of
a
work
plan
for
a
section
of
the
of
the
city
Administration.
U
No,
it's
really
tied
into
the
achievement
of
specific
significant
policies
that
would
be
in
the
urban
forest
and
green
space
master
plan.
U
U
This
is
kind
of
connections
to
the
bigger
policy
pieces
between
the
ufmp
and
the
bigger
policy
pieces
and
the
next
immediately
adjacent
one
would
be
the
urban
force
and
free
space
master
plan.
It
needs
to
be
covered
in
a
report,
so
we
understand
that
external
weather
shocks,
the
pandemics,
Senior
Management,
turmoil
turnover.
That's
had
a
big
impact
on
on
the
ability
of
the
state
to
to
fulfill
all
of
the.
U
So,
but
given
the
importance
of
the
plan
and
exposure
to
all
these
pressures,
it
would
be
wise,
I
think,
to
Institute
annual
reporting
to
this
committee
on
progress
made
and
obstacles
encountered
so
that
adjustments
and
and
so
that
the
committee
can,
you
know,
make
adjustments
and
keep
track
of
progress.
Of
course,
a
plan
we
strongly
you
know,
support
the
urban
Forest
management
plan,
it's
key
to
the
development
of
a
healthy
forest
for
Ottawa.
U
We
urge
you
to
keep
it
high
in
your
priorities
and
to
find
it
appropriately
through
budget
and
other
means
as
necessary.
Thank.
A
You
okay!
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
delegation.
I'll
see
if
any
questions
from
committee
seeing
hands
up
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that.
That's
the
last
of
our
delegations.
We're
now
going
to
go
to
counselor
questions
and
comments
for
staff
and
we'll
start
with
Vice,
chair
Carr.
D
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
enormous
amount
of
work
and
acknowledge
the
extreme
amount
of
work
that
was
completed
in
the
first
management
period,
with
a
lot
of
variables
that
that
were
not
anticipated.
Unlike
other
files,
I
think
I
said
it
earlier.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
around
the
table.
D
How
important
tree
canopy
cover
are
I
I
didn't
sit
around
the
council
table
before
November,
but
I
was
involved
at
a
community
advocacy
group
and
the
resources
that
are
at
the
table
today
and
that
have
undertaken
their
work
are
the
same
resources
that
have
been
undertaking
this
work
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
have
been
my
community
contacts
for
many
years
and
I.
Think
that
speaks
to
the
fact
that,
as
things
have
evolved,
more
and
more
people
are
interested
in
trees.
D
We've
seen
Devastation
with
our
trees
due
to
the
due
to
weather
events
and
in
some
cases,
development.
We
we
really
haven't
expanded
the
the
resources
that
are
available
and
I.
Think
in
reviewing
the
report.
Today
we
can
see
looking
at
the
ufmp
accomplishments
and
what
was
planned
for
the
first
period.
We
see
exactly
what
happens
when
the
Staffing
plan
does
not
meet
the
work
plan
and
I'm
wondering
I
have
a
few
questions
for
staff
in
the
the
third
Annex
on
the
appendix
of
the
report.
D
You
speak
to
what
can
be
accomplished
and
there's
a
number
of
items
that
have
been
you.
You
acknowledge
that
it
could
be
completed,
but
it
would
be
scoped
down
or
that
it
couldn't
be
completed.
Can
you
confirm
whether
that
includes
the
new
two
ftes
that
you're
asking
for
the
assessment
of
work?
For
that?
Please
I,
don't
know
how
to
scroll
down.
V
On
my
sheet,
through
your
chart,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
two
ftes
would
be
because
the
tree
planting
strategy
or
feature
project,
so
those
two
fds
would
be
dedicated
to
helping
to
build
capacity.
You
know
or
tree
planting
team.
So,
as
is
it,
it
doesn't
reflect
those
two
ftes.
So
the
the
tree
planting
strategy,
we're
anticipating,
would
not
need
to
be
scoped
down
with
those
two
extra
FTS.
D
Okay,
perfect,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
when
you
looked
at
what
could
be
accomplished,
can
you
speak
to
the
level
of
risk
that
you
Incorporated
in
the
plan
what
I
mean
by
that
over
the
last
few
years
we
had
the
ice
stream,
the
direct
show
and
the
tornado
in
the
first
management
period
alone,
along
with
a
pandemic
which
probably
had
an
impact
on
some
of
the
workforce,
I'm
wondering
when
you
costed
out
that
or
laid
out
what
you
could
accomplish
with
the
resources
over
the
next
year.
D
V
You
so
when
we're
looking
at
the
the
work
plan
for
the
second
management
period
and
what
coding
couldn't
be
accomplished,
we're
looking
at
the
staff
involved
in
those
projects,
many
a
few
staff
will
touch
every
one
of
those
pieces
of
that
work
plan,
one
so,
for
example,
the
tree
planting
strategy.
It's
not
a
one-person
project,
Martha's
the
lead
on
it,
but
it
will
touch
many
many
staff
within
the
forestry
services
team.
Myself
are
a
lead
on
our
tree.
Planting
teams
down
to
our
field
staff
that
are
Landscape
Architects,
that
work
in
the
field.
V
They're
the
subject
matter:
experts
on
those
tree,
planting
programs.
So
we've
we've
looked
at
what
yeah,
who
would
who
would
touch
those
projects
and
where
the
capacity
needs
to
be
built
in
their
teams.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
I
just
have
a
few
other
questions,
and
it
was
raised
today,
I
think
from
our
first
delegation
that,
because
it's
been
revised,
what
can
be
undertaken
in
the
second
management
period
that
are
that
are
some
items
that
have
slipped
now
and
gave
the
example
of
the
I
call
it
the
invasive
species.
That's
not
the
right,
the
right
term,
the
pests
and
disease
management
strategy.
D
M
And
thank
you
so
much
through
you,
chair,
yeah
I,
do
have
our
initial
plan
here
and
you're
right.
There
are
a
few
that
have
slipped,
and
basically,
that
is
the
Adaptive
management
of
this
plan.
So,
looking
at
the
challenges
that
we
faced
in
the
first
management
period,
assessing
what
we
were
able
to
complete
with
the
staff
resources
that
we
have
and
then
looking
at
the
projects
that
we
have
coming
forward,
that
we
haven't
completed
yet
we
have
coming
forward
and
building
a
plan
for
the
second
management
period.
M
So
our
first
thought
was
to
bring
our
first
effort
was
to
bring
the
items
that
we
hadn't
completed
in
the
first
management
period,
that
it's
been
slotted
for
the
first
management
period
into
the
second
management
period.
And
so
that's
where
you
see
the
tree
planting
strategy
and
the
Outreach
and
engagement
stuff.
We
everything
on
this
list
is
priority.
You
know,
and
so
that
was
prioritized
into
the
first
management
period,
initially
we're
bringing
that
now
into
the
second,
because
we
weren't
able
to
complete
it.
So
a
few
other
items.
M
We
have
it's:
it's
really
just
around
the
pest
and
disease
management
strategy
and
then
some
other
sort
of
extensions
of
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
now.
M
So
this
thing
around
neighborhood
tree
planting
plans,
so
we're
building
the
base
for
that
through
the
tree
planting
strategy
and
through
our
Outreach
and
engagement
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
see
how
that
can,
you
know,
be
laid
out
as
we
move
forward,
but
we're
building
the
base
for
that
now,
but
just
to
note
that
on
the
pest
and
disease
management
strategy
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
doing
no
work
on
this.
M
We
are
so
well
integrated
into
National
and
provincial
networks
on
Pest
and
pest
Forest,
Pest
and
disease,
and
you
know,
and
and
talking
with
other
municipalities
and
partnering
on
strategies
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we
are
working
on
that
actively
all
of
the
time
and
obviously
had
a
huge
lesson
through
emerald
ash
borer
around
the
time
when
I
first
started
at
the
city.
So
just
to
note
that
that
doesn't
mean
we're
not
working
on
it.
Thanks
yeah.
D
Absolutely
understood,
I
know
how
hard
you
guys
work,
but
just
on
that
note
on
the
Pest
and
disease
management
strategy,
I
I
think
it
was
a
delegation
from
ecology
Ottawa
that
that
spoke
about
that,
and
that
is
something
that
concerns
me,
because
I
do
live
in
an
area
where
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
invasive
speeches.
Buckthorn.
D
Can
we
just
confirm
that
when
we
do
the
tweak
canopy
cover
estimates,
when
you
look
at
the
percentage
that
it
would
include
areas,
buckthorne
would
be
counted,
for
example,
as
tree
cover,
given
its
its
height
size.
M
M
D
Yeah,
so
that
that
is
I'll
just
mention
that
that
is
a
concern
of
mine.
I've
got
kilometers
of
Buckthorn
that,
on
the
on
the
Geo
map,
it
looks
like
we've
got
sufficient
canopy
cover,
but
it
is
something
that
I
was
disappointed,
not
disappointed
to
see
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do,
but
I
completely
understand,
given
the
restrictions,
but
I
will
probably
be
back
on
that
I'll.
Leave
that
topic
for
today.
Just
with
respect
to
I
know
we
we
had
some
delegations
asking
about
native
trees
and
I
know.
D
I've
asked
this
question
before
and
understand
when
we're
dealing
in
urban
environments
that
there
are
some
non-native
species
that
are
best
for
Hardy
Urban
environments.
When
we're
looking
at
tree
planting
I'm
wondering
if
there
will
be
any
consideration
as
we
move
along
for
maybe
putting
some
parameters
around
where
native
trees
could
only
be
planted
like,
for
example,
in
Parks
or
or
grassy
areas,
parks
and
green
spaces,
and
to
try
to
limit
the
non-native
species
to
those
heartier
environments
like
on
medians
or
whatever
the
case
may
be.
V
Through
you
chair,
so
we
will
be
through
the
tree
planting
strategy,
creating
tree
planting
lists
for
various
scenarios,
so
in
scenarios,
where
we're
doing
reforestation
or
A4
station
projects,
absolutely
100
native
trees,
open
areas
of
parks
really
appropriate
for
Native
native
trees.
It
gets
trickier,
as
we've
discussed
in
in
urban
areas,
with
harsher
environments,
and
sometimes
the
trade-off
is
a
tree
that
is
a
native
tree.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
I
do
have
other
questions,
but
I'm
gonna
actually
take
myself
off,
because
I
see
there's
a
lot
of
hands
up,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
work
and
I'm
was
really
excited
to
read
about
the
new
tree
planning
strategy.
In
particular,
I
mentioned
the
equity
concerns
and
that's
a
real
issue
in
my
neighborhood,
so
I
was
really
pleased
to
see
part
of
the
part
of
the
recommendations.
Thank
you.
Thank.
P
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
chair.
My
first
question
is
about
the
ftes
and
the
the
capacity
requirements.
From
my
perspective,
just
you
know:
Suburban
counselor,
who
commutes
in
and
I
regularly
go
past.
You
know
Slack,
Road
and
Woodruff,
where
we've
got
a
devastated
Forest
out
there
from
the
NCC
and
and
I
would
think
that
the
staff
capacity
that
we
need
to
increase
isn't
necessarily
the
FTE
component.
But
it's
the
casuals.
It's
the
part
times
it's
the
interns,
it's
the
co-op
programs.
P
It's
the
you
know
getting
students
out
and
volunteers
out
to
actually
put
acorns
in
the
ground
and
saplings
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
I.
Just
from
a
from
a
process
perspective.
Can
you
speak
to
that
component
because
to
me
you
know,
that's
the
getting
it
done.
Piece
and
I
know.
We've
spoken
a
lot
about
the
policy
in
the
administration,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
actually
getting
getting
more
trees
out
there.
V
Thank
you
through
you,
chair,
absolutely,
there's,
there's
there's
a
a
resource
out
there
that
we
can
utilize
in
terms
of
our
Outreach
and
stewardship
activities.
Part
of
our
Outreach
and
stewardship
strategy
will
be.
You
know
to
build
that
Suite
of
stewardship
activities
that
high
school
students
can
participate
in
individual
residents.
Community
groups
can
participate
in
whether
it's
tree
planting
or
mulching,
or
putting
tree
protection
on
trees
for
whipper
snippers.
That
kind
of
thing
removing
Buckthorn,
of
course
in
forested
areas.
V
V
But
there
there
is
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
more
community-based
programs.
We
have
to
develop
them
and
that's
what
the
tree
planting
strategy
is
going
to
help
us
to
do.
P
Okay,
thank
you
and
to
kind
of
build
on
that.
I
talked
a
bit
about
that
slack
force.
That
really
concerns
me
every
time
I
go
buy
it
from
your
perspective.
You
know
we.
P
We
share
this
city
of
Ottawa
with
the
NCC
and
some
of
their
land
and
I
know
they
have
their
independent
policies
and
procedures
with
regard
to
their
lands
and
their
forestry,
and
such
you
know,
but
is
it
sufficient
for
what
we
need
you
know,
I
would
I
would
use
that
specific
site
as
an
example
where
there
are
local
residents
that
live
in
that
area.
P
You
know
and
the
impacts
of
you
know
devastated
actions
in
those
in
those
forested
areas
impacts
on
our
local
residents,
but
we
don't
necessarily
control
the
levers
to
to
repopulate
those
forested
areas.
So
are
you
comfortable
with
kind
of
the
current
policies
and
procedures
that
the
NCC
has
with
regards
to
forestry
operations,
and,
if
not,
are
there
any
things
that
we
as
a
city
should
be
doing
in
order
to
to
engage
with
the
NCC
on
that
topic?.
M
Thanks
for
the
question
through
you
chair,
I,
guess
in
short,
yeah,
we
we
are
comfortable
with
the
plans
that
they
have
in
place.
They
were
involved
in
the
development
of
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
and
we
were
involved
in
in
their
consultations
on
their
Forest
strategy
for
the
NCC
lands,
and
you
know
they
have
various
different
sort
of
strategies
for
the
different
elements
of
their
type,
the
type
of
land
that
they
have
which
and
they
face
different
challenge.
Some
of
this,
the
parts
of
their
land.
M
They
have
trees
on
the
same
kind
of
challenges
that
we
face
and
some
are
different.
You
know,
but
we
work
pretty
closely
with
them.
The
canopy
cover
assessment
was
done
in
partnership
with
the
MCC
in
the
city
of
Gatineau,
in
terms
of
the
their
capacity
I.
I
can't
really
comment
on
that,
but
in
terms
of
the
way
that
they
have
laid
out
their
sort
of
priorities
and
management
plan,
we
do
feel
comfortable.
M
You
know
what,
with
what
they've
got
in
place,
I
think
that,
with
these
extreme
weather
events,
everybody
is
in
the
same
boat
where
it
came
at
us.
You
know-
and
we
we
you
know
as
some
of
the
delegations
talked
about,
we
knew
that
this
was
coming
with
the
kind
of
changes
in
weather
patterns
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I
think
everybody
is
probably
putting
ketchup
at
this
time.
So
that's
probably
the
one.
P
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
my
my
last
question
I
think
it's
a
coordination
function
within
the
city
I'm
as
a
Suburban
counselor,
a
lot
of
my
new
growth
as
multi-use
Pathways,
going
in
front
of
of
their
of
their
homes
and
a
part
of
the
concern
that
I
have
with
that
is
that
it
eats
into
that
that
Frontage
I
forget
proper
term
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
can
actually
use
that
posted
stamp
of
of
green
space
in
front
of
houses
to
have
to
host
mature
trees,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
good
coordination
function
between
you
know
the
planners
and
and
such
on.
P
How
those
setbacks
work
to
make
sure
that
there's
there's
actually
capacity
for
that,
because
I
I
have
seen
a
few
new
developments
where
I
think
I
don't
know
if
it's
pilots
on
on
these
eight
foot,
wide
Maltese
Pathways
in
the
suburbs
or
if
it's
completely
mainstreamed
now,
but
just
I
I,
would
identify
that
as
something
that
may
have
a
second
order
effect
that
we
didn't
completely
consider
in
the
front
end.
M
Thank
you
so
much
through
you
chair.
This
is
really
good
information
and
thanks
so
much
for
bringing
it
to
my
attention,
because
this
is
so.
We
have
the
planning
Foresters
that
work
with
Nick
and
I
in
our
group.
They
are
reviewing
all
plans,
all
site
plans
and
plans
of
subdivision
that
come
forward
in
the
in
the
urban
area
and
looking
at
the
design,
the
tree
retention,
tree
protection
and
Landscape
plans
for
those
sites
and
how
we
we
are
fitting
in
trees.
M
So
since
we
spoke
about
this,
the
other
day
I
flagged
that
to
them,
and
we
want
to
start
looking
at
this
potentially
sort
of
new
approach
and
see
if
that
is
impacting
our
ability
to
get
trees
in
those
on
those
streets
where
that
sort
of
typology
is
being
used.
M
So
thank
you
for
flagging
it
and
and
that's
why
we're
there
to
be
part
and
we're
part
of
the
development
review
team,
providing
comments
on
all
the
applications
that
come
in
and
that's
the
kinds
of
things
we're
looking
for
scenarios
where
there
might
not
be
any
trees
because
the
setback
might
be.
It
might
not
be
sufficient.
M
But
I'll
also
say
that
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
will
be
considered.
The
setback
thing
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
will
be
considered
through
the
new
zoning
bylaw
as
well,
because
they're,
the
zoning
folks
are
putting
a
bit
of
a
tree
focus
on
their
on
their
investigations
into
new
Zoning
for
the
city
and
understanding
how
we
can
ensure
that
the
zoning
that
we're
putting
in
place
enables
us
to
have
trees
in
residential
Maple
all
over
the
city,
residential
neighborhoods.
Specifically.
So,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank.
G
Thank
you
very
much
to
both
of
you.
I
appreciate
all
the
work
you've
done.
I
I
I've
noticed
the
difference
with
the
tree
bylaw,
it's
it's
made
an
impact
and
the
fact
that
Foresters
are
now
going
to
Committee
of
adjustment
as
well.
As
you
know,
just
speaking
out
to
and
checking
on
properties
before
they're
approved
is
made
a
huge
difference.
G
Sorry
about
that,
still
fighting
a
quote
and
I
and
I
want
to
commend
you
for
that
work,
because
I
I
know
that
it
was
really
important
and
you
had
a
big
hand
in
it.
G
So
move
forward
and
we
have
lots
of
projects
coming
up
and
intensification
is
always
going
to
be
at
odds
with
with
trees.
And
it's
a
it's
a
constant
battle.
I'm
going
to
see
a
lot
of
intensification,
especially
around
Transit,
oriented
development
and
I.
Think
residents
need
to
know
how
how
the
decisions
are
made.
There
are
instances
where
some
trees
will
be
lost
based
on
projects,
but
there's
others
where
it's
it's
there.
G
There
is
a
possibility
of
saving
it
and
I
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
forestry
is
right
in
there
to
to
help
preserve
those.
Those
possibilities
and
and
make
sure
that
there's
no
situations
where
it's
it's
neglect
that
causes
the
the
trees
to
be
lost
because
they
weren't
wanted
in
the
first
place.
They
were
considered
to
be
in
the
way
for
by
the
developer,
so
I'd
like
to
sort
of
get
a
better
idea
of.
G
If
you
can
describe
the
working
relationship
or
are
you
right
in
the
room
when,
when
we're
talking
when
the
planner
is
working
with
the
developer
on
these
issues,.
M
Thanks
so
much
for
the
question
through
you
chair,
yeah,
this
sort
of
setting,
I
guess
what
I've
been
calling
like
setting
expectations
around
how
the
decisions
are
being
made
is
a
really
important
part
of
this,
and
for
your
last
question
there.
Yes,
that's
exactly
it.
M
We
are
in
the
room,
we're
on
so
in
in
scenarios
of
site,
planner,
Planet
subdivision
we're
on
that
review
team,
and
we
are
the
same
amount,
a
part
of
that
team
as
the
engineers
and
the
planners
and
everything
so
we're
on
that
core
team
for
infield
development
scenarios
same
thing
so
we're
our
first,
the
planning
Foresters
and
our
forestry
inspectors.
M
If,
if
it,
if
it's
just
going
to
building
permit,
are
talking
with
the
engineers
that
are
on
the
file
and
the
committee
of
adjustment
planners
and
are
right
there
and
the
developers
as
well,
and
a
lot
of
the
communication
with
the
developers
on
what's
happening
on
the
site
and
I
would
say
that
in
some
cases
some
of
these
infill
sites.
We
are
some
of
the
people
that
are
spending
the
most
time
talking
to
the
developers
on
what's
happening
on
the.
M
M
The
diagram
is
right
there
and
it
goes
over
basically
like
rules
for
how
we
decide
when
tree
permits
would
be
issued
or
not
on
a
development
site
like
that
and
it's
basically
it's
based
on
the
allowable
building
footprint,
so
trees
that
are
within
that
allowable
building
footprint
are
like
right
on
the
edge
those
trees
are
going
to
be
difficult,
trees
to
preserve.
You
know,
unless
the
owner
is
really
keen
on
pushing
forward
with
preserving
those
and
sort
of
changing
their
their
pattern.
M
Our
planning
Forester,
who
works
on
Committee
of
adjustment
files,
the
kinds
of
changes
she's
been
able
to
affect
on
you
know
whether
it
comes
to
moving
a
basement
slightly
in
so
that
the
tree
roots
are
protected
and
then
the
first
floor
is
still
cantilevered
out
and
the
and
the
canopies
above
that
you
know,
we've
seen
that
multiple
times
and
we've
been
that's.
G
Absolutely
am
and
I
appreciate
the
infill
I
think
we're
working
towards
success
and
you've
just
described
it,
but
the
bigger
projects
are,
you
know,
we're
talking
about
16
story,
buildings,
30-story
story,
buildings,
everything,
there's
going
to
be
tree
loss
and
there's
a
lack
of
trust,
because
they've
seen
so
much
tree
loss
in
the
past
that
it's
it's
about.
It's
about,
building
the
trust
that
we
really
do
care
about
trees
and
that
we're
we're
going
to
see
them
replaced
the
the
whole
two
to
one
ratio
scenario.
G
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
concern
that
it's
not
really
going
to
happen.
They're
going
to
lose
these
50
year
old,
100
year
old
trees
to
have
little
saplings.
G
M
Thanks
through
you
chair,
that's
a
really
good
point
and
and
on
these
tighter
sites
that
you're
talking
about
it
can
be
hard.
M
So
that's
been
a
really
big
change
for
us
in
the
last
few
years,
is
talking
about
space
for
trees
and
space
for
adequate
soil
volume
to
plant
trees
so
that
they
can
actually
grow
to
their
full
capacity
at
maturity,
so
that
integration
that
we've
been
able
to
do
is
also
pushing
that
not
just
the
tree
retention
side,
but
also
the
space
for
trees.
So
we
have
the
compensation
requirements
built
in
for
those
smaller
infill
developments
because
they
don't
come
with
landscape
plans.
You
know,
and
and
so
we're
pushing
to
find
space
for
that.
M
If
we
don't,
then
we
collect
money
for
those
trees
and
they
go
into
our
compensation,
accounts
and
they're
used
for
tree
planting
with
the
site
plan
and
plan
of
subdivision
we
have
and
as
a
part
of
the
new
OP
and
new
landscape
plan
terms
of
reference
that
guides
how
we
deliver
or
how
we,
what
we
ask
for
for
landscape
plans
and
our
Foresters
are
reviewing
those
landscape
plans
as
well
and
pushing
for
that
tree.
Planting
and
adequate
space
is
the
important
thing.
X
G
Do
okay,
thank
you.
We
we
heard
from
Angela
in
cafes
about
tree
trenches
and
I
was
interested
in
that,
particularly
in
areas
where
we
don't
have
the
storm
water
system.
G
It's
a
system
of
ditches
that
kind
of
thing,
but
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
do
better
with
more
pre-planting,
because
it's
not
been
a
priority
and
in
terms
of
just
our
ditch,
maintain
maintenance
programs
as
well
I,
don't
know
if
you've
been
across
pollinating
with
the
people
who
deal
with
that,
but
is
that
something
that
we've
looked
at
I
saw
it
in
the
notes?
I
did
see
it
in
the
report,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
take
on
it.
W
M
Of
course,
through
that
work
that
we
talked
about
with-
and
this
isn't
the
stormwater
side,
this
is
the
road
of
road
right
of
way
cross
sections
for
local
streets.
That
was
a
really
important
piece
of
work
and
sort
of
a
like
I,
said
foundational
piece
of
work
in
terms
of
moving
these
kinds
of
things
forward.
M
You
know
and
that
integration,
and
so
through
that
that's
where
the
sort
of
concept
of
the
joint
utility
trench
under
the
sidewalk
came
to
fruition
for
Ottawa
and
that's
solid
there
now,
so
that
was
a
building
block
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
the
stuff
that
you're
talking
about
we've
started
to
and
Tracy
will
talk
about
some
examples
that
they've
been
involved
in
and
on
our
side.
M
We've
started
to
be
involved
in
conversations
about
storm
water
management
in
areas
with
the
ditches
and
sort
of
approaches
at
a
site,
level
and
Beyond,
and
how
that
impacts.
Trees
were
involved
in
those
conversations
at
this
time.
I
don't
have
any
big
updates
or
anything
like
that,
but
that
is
ongoing
and
and
that's
been,
you
know
we
just
highlighted
some
of
the
integration
pieces
that
we've
been
doing,
but
really
it's
it's
very
Broad
and
people
are
coming
to
us
now,
rather
than.
W
G
You
Tracy
I
appreciate
the
work,
that's
being
done
on
that
and
in
areas
that
are
our
city
right
of
ways
like
mediums
I'm,
always
getting
asked.
Why
don't
you
put
more
trees
and
mediums?
You
know
like
Carling
Avenue?
How
do
we
get
that.
V
Done
so,
thank
you,
I
think
our
the
next,
the
next
step,
Martha's
talked
about
are
good
integration
that
we
now
have
in
on
the
development
side.
Through
this
management
period,
it's
really
going
to
be
looking
at.
How
do
we
move
forward
integration
with
with
construction
projects
they
infrastructure
services?
V
So
right
now,
just
on
the
storm
water
side,
we
have
been
working
forestries
and
working
with
stormwater
services
for
a
number
of
years
on
a
pilot
for
storm
water,
tree
planting
and
storm
oops
and
storm
water
project,
we're
nearing
the
Finish
Line
on
that
one,
so
that
will
be
coming,
but
through
our
integration
with
infrastructure
Services
getting
in
early
to
those
projects,
looking
for
opportunities
to
plant
trees,
opportunities
for
using
trees
and
and
soil
cells
for
storm
water,
it's
really
critical
that
we
get
in
early
in
those
projects.
So
we
can
affect
change.
V
G
Well,
thank
you.
It
was
already
asked
about
with
working
with
the
NCC
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
you
partner
with
them
they're
the
ones
that
have
all
the
puck
Thorns
that
I've
seen
it's
it's
just
kilometers
of
it.
Are
you
aware
of
their
plans
on
that,
because
I
see
that
in
my
green
belt,
in
bayward.
G
Said
the
NCC
Green
Belt,
it's
it's
very
invasive,
and
it
spreads
of
course
everywhere
and
in
terms
of
having
native
species,
I
feel
like
there's.
It
just
hasn't
been
dealt
with
sufficiently
I.
X
Don't
have
any
direct
knowledge
of
the
ncc's
plans
to
deal
with
buckthorne,
nothing
specific,
but
my
understanding
is
that
they're
taking
much
the
same
approach
as
as
we
are
at
the
city.
X
We
don't
anticipate
ever
being
able
to
eliminate
buckthorne
from
the
city's
natural
areas
from
our
rural
areas,
but
we
do
manage
it
on
a
side-by-site
basis
to
try
and
protect
our
you
know
our
most
critical
areas,
and
so
you
can
see.
For
example,
the
NCC
has
done
a
lot
of
Buckthorn
removal
along
the
Rita
River
on
their
last
longer
River,
for
example.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you,
Equity
I'm
glad.
This
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
report
and
this
week
we're
going
to
have
a
volunteer
exercise
for
OCH
where
we're
going
to
be
drink.
Planting
I
really
appreciate
that,
because
I
think
that's
important
that
we're
it's
not
just
communities
proactively
asking,
but
that
we're
reaching
out
to
communities
as
well,
because
they
they
may
not
be
aware
that
they
can
ask
for
these
things.
So
how
is
that
done?
I
mean
OCH
is
one
Community,
but
there's
other
communities
that
that
don't
get
reached.
M
Thank
you
so
much
and
through
you
chair,
I,
absolutely
appreciate
that
and
that's
going
to
be
the
big
sort
of
new
challenge
that
we're
bringing
to
ourselves
at
this
point
with
this
we
have
to
do
that
work
and
so
we'll
be
playing
as
we
plan
out
the
project
as
our
next
step,
starting
tomorrow
or
maybe
after
next
Monday,
but
we'll
be
looking
at
that,
but
also
developing
a
consultation
strategy
and
so
how
we
are
going
to
reach
some
of
those
groups
as
we
consult
and
then
and
and
also
peop,
so
Ottawa
Community
Housing
is
a
good
example.
M
People
who
are
working
in
that
realm
so
that
we
can
talk
about
you
know
what
can
we
do
to
be
successful
in
reaching
those
areas
and
and
and
what
does
that
look
like
these
are
all
the
things
that
we
have
to
figure
out
and-
and
this
is
sort
of
the
big,
the
big
push
in
this
plan.
I
appreciate
that
and
happy.
A
You
counselor
Kavanaugh
I,
can't
imagine
the
better
person
yourself
and
counselor
King
to
work
with
on
that
type
of
a
strategy.
Counselor
Devine
you're
up
next.
L
Great
so
thanks,
chair
I,
do
have
some
comments,
but
also
some
questions
for
staff
and
a
question
for
the
Mover
of
the
current
motion.
So
thank
you
staff
for
your
dedication
on
this
very
important
work.
This
conversation
is
not
only
one
of
my
key
areas
of
focus
as
a
counselor,
but
it's
also
very
personal.
For
me,
we've
heard
about
the
laws
to
our
canopy
from
from
recent
natural
disasters
and
councilor
cars
motion
reflects
some
of
these
offense.
L
L
One
immediate
impact
that
we
noticed
from
this
loss
was
the
rise
in
temperatures
across
our
neighborhood,
not
just
on
the
ground,
but
in
everyone's
second
floor
bedroom,
which
became
several
degrees
warmer
because
of
a
loss
of
shade,
which
meant
that
everyone
cranked
up
their
air
conditioning
which
comes
at
a
cost
to
our
City's
grid
and
makes
our
City's
power
grid
more
vulnerable.
L
L
On
that
note,
one
of
the
delegates
spoke
about
having
General
support
for
the
ufmp,
but
spoke
to
a
concern
about
a
lack
of
urgency
in
the
approach
in
the
objectives
and
even
in
the
language
and
I
do
Echo
that
concern
and
I've
spoken
to
staff
about
this
already,
in
my
opinion,
and
in
the
opinion
of
many,
the
restoration
of
our
Urban
canopy
and
the
accomplishment
of
our
tree
planting
strategy
is
directly
linked
to
the
role
that
Cities
play
in
ensuring
public
health
and
safety.
I.
L
The
way
we
look
at
this,
not
in
terms
of
value
and
benefits,
but
in
terms
of
urgency
and
necessity,
and
so
one.
My
first
question
just
to
counselor
Carr.
If
we
are
talking
about
the
motion
and
I,
certainly
support
the
motion.
But
would
you
be
open
a
counselor
car
to
a
friendly
amendment
to
your
motion
to
include
in
the
whereas
Clauses
a
reference
to
the
2018
tornadoes
as
they
have
a
severe
and
relevant
impact
to
several
Ottawa
communities?.
D
L
Whereas
the
tornadoes
of
2018
like
to
add
that
to
that
to
that
list
of
disasters,
they're
all
relevant
to
the
the
loss
of
canopy,
we're
talking
about
and
I
know
that
my
communities
as
well
as
the
communities
have
done,
Robin
and
and
green
some
other
communities
would
I'm
sure
feel
heard
if
their
loss
was
reflected.
In
that.
L
You
very
much
and
then
I
have
three
questions
for
staff.
So
Martha
you
made
reference
in
your
presentation
to
taking
on
a
more
proactive
approach
to
our
tree
planting
strategy
as
opposed
to
a
responsive
approach
or
a
reactive
approach.
With
regards
to
the
trees
and
Trust
program,
which
is
one
of
my
favorite
programs,
but
also
I,
know
it's
not
the
most
broadly
known
program
and
it
is
a
responsive
program.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
you
might
see
trees
and
Trust
program
change?
If
you
take
a
proactive
approach
to
it,.
V
Thank
you
through
you,
chair.
Absolutely
the
trees
and
Trust
program.
Now,
as
you
said,
is
reactive.
So,
in
order
to
move
to
proactive
it,
may
it
may
not
be
the
trees
and
Trust
program.
It
may
look
completely
different.
We
have
had
some
lessons
learned
and
some
challenges
with
our
proactive,
full
Street
Replacements
that
we
did
for
many
years
with
the
ab,
so
we've
been
there
before.
We
do
know
that
it.
V
V
It's
residents
may
not
know
about
the
program,
but
they
also
may
not
want
to
treat
for
various
reasons.
So
it's
really
important
for
us
to
develop
a
program
that
is
widely
known
and,
as
Marsa
has
talked
for
many
years
about
the
culture
change
around
trees,
so
that
residents
understand
why
they're
getting
it,
how
to
care
for
it?
Why
it's
important
to
have
it,
how
to
maintain
it
so
I
that
is
going
to
be.
V
L
You
and
I
I
completely
agree
with
you
that
we
do
need
resident
buy-in,
because,
if
they're
not
going
to
buy
in
then
they're
not
going
to
water,
the
tree
and
and
the
tree
will
fail
and
the
program
will
fail,
but
I
love
the
fact
that
there
will
be
you
know,
taking
the
approach
to
Residents
and
hopefully
getting
them
to
see
the
role
that
they
and
the
tree
that
I
hope
they
take
care
of
will
play
in
ensuring
health
and
safety
for
all
two
more
questions,
so
so
on.
L
In
regards
to
your
request
for
two
new
staff
to
be
supported
by
two,
you
know
to
be
covered
by
250
000.
You
mentioned
that
the
cost
would
be
covered
by
transferring
I
believe
transferring
revenues
away
from
the
materials
and
services
part
of
your
budget.
If
I'm
interpreting.
That
correctly,
can
you
let
me
know
what
might
be
lost
in
terms
of
materials
and
services
and
whether
there
was
an
opportunity
to
request
this
new
expense
be
covered
without
compromising
another
part
of
your
budget.
K
Sure
I
can
respond
to
that
question.
So
what
we
did
is
we
reviewed,
basically
the
some
of
the
historical
figures
that
we
had
in
terms
of
our
expenditures
in
our
purchase
services,
and
what
we
identified
was
that
there
was
capacity
in
those
accounts
to
be
able
to
address
this.
What
we
consider
to
be
a
higher
priority
in
terms
of
funding
the
additional
ftes
without
impacting
basically
the
delivery
of
our
services.
K
L
Thank
you
so
when
so,
if
there's
a
reference
to
transfer
transferring
it
from
materials,
does
that
mean
and
forgive
me
if
I
didn't
understand
your
answer
in
the
first
place,
but
does
that
mean
that
by
you
know,
hiring
two
new
staff?
We
will
lose
X
number
of
trees
that
could
be
planted
from
those
funds.
K
No
chair
just
to
clarify,
basically
those
are
our
broader
purchase
services,
so
they
include
a
a
number
of
different
items.
So
if
we
move
the
the
reason
why
basically
we're
looking
for
Council
authority
to
move
the
dollars
forward
is
because
we're
moving
it
from
purchase
services
to
a
compensation
account.
So
we
require
Council
approval
to
do
that
change,
but
that
change
will
not
result
in
US
planting
lusteries.
In
fact,
it's
going
to
be
the
opposite.
L
That
makes
me
happy
and
my
last
question
to
staff
so
in
regards
to
what
I
was
talking
about-
and
we
have
we've
spoken
about
this
before
about
the
need,
for
you
know-
to
shift
the
the
culture
and
the
language
towards
a
sense
of
urgency.
L
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
and
I
know
that
Outreach
and
education
is
going
to
be
a
central
part
of
this
second
phase
of
your
of
your
plan.
So
I
don't
know
to
what
extent
your
Outreach
and
education
and
communication
strategy
has
already
been
drafted.
But
can
you
comment
as
to
whether
or
not
that
Outreach
and
education
and
Communications
will
reflect
a
certain
level
of
of
urgency
to
it,
I.E
the
role
that
trees
play
and
and
what
happens,
what
potential
risks
happen
if
we
don't
restore
our
canopy
foreign.
V
Thank
you
through
you
chair,
so
we
are
in
the
beginning
stages
of
developing
our
Outreach
and
engagement
strategy.
We
have
a
request
for
input
right
now
on,
engage
Ottawa
and
we're
seeing
a
very
high
uptake
in
that
from
community
of
what
you
know
what
types
of
stewardship
activities.
What
types
of
things
do
you
do
you
want
to
know
about?
Do
you
need
to
know
about
what
types
of
tools
would
you
need
to
do
the
projects
that
you
that
you
would
like
to
do?
V
We
will
be
engaging
with
Ottawa
Public
Health
on
and
seeing
where
you
know
we
talk
about
this
integration
with
planning
and
infrastructure
services.
Ottawa
Public
Health
is
another
point
of
contact
that
we
can
make
to
integrate
our
programs
into
Ottawa,
Public,
Health
and
and
vice
versa.
So
where
can
we
promote
what
we're
doing
and
with
that
that
public
health
lens
on
it?
So
absolutely
we're
in
the
beginning
stages
of
our
Outreach
and
engagement
strategy,
though.
M
Sorry
three
I'm
just
going
to
add
one
more
thing
there
through
you
chair,
counselor
Divine.
We
do
and
we
have
built
this
relationship
with
Ottawa
Public
Health
already,
and
they
were
involved
in
up
some.
Some
of
their
staff
was
involved
in
the
development
of
the
ufmp
from
the
beginning
phases.
They
were
key
partners
with
us
working
with
our
planning
policy
planning,
folks
on
the
development
of
the
official
plan,
and
and
and
so
we
want
to
continue
that
partnership
and
we've
had
sort
of
somewhat
regular
meetings
in
the
con
with
them.
M
L
H
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
the
in-depth
report,
especially
the
commitment
to
outreach
and
Community
engagement.
That's
outlined
in
one
of
the
recommendations.
The
report
states
that
it
will
enhance
existing
programs
and
incentives
and
create
new
opportunities
for
the
community
to
understand
and
cure
for
its
green
assets.
H
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
could
comment
on
the
current
work
in
terms
of
coordinating
with
residents
who
are
undertaking
tree
planting
projects
with
a
specific
view
towards
removing
roadblocks
to
to
those
undertakings,
because-
and
this
is
why
I'm
also
very
satisfied
that
the
report
is
talking
about
trying
to
break
down
the
silos
between
different
departments
and
units
within
the
city,
because
I
hear
on
an
ongoing
basis,
the
challenges
around
roadblocks.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
outline
some
of
the
coordinating
efforts
that
you're
making
with
residents.
V
Thank
you
through
your
chair,
so
we
work
regularly
with
Community
associations.
We
have
Landscape
Architects
that
work
with
Community
groups
to
do
who
are
interested
in
doing
tree
planting
projects.
We
do
a
number
of
small
to
medium-sized
A4
station
projects
with
Community
volunteer
community
groups,
Every
Spring
and
every
fall.
We
have
certainly
seen
a
rise
in
the
interest
in
in
groups
doing
projects
with
us,
but
also
doing
projects
on
their
own
and
I.
V
Think
that's
where
the
frustration
is
is
coming
in
and
that
we
need
to
develop
those
processes
and
that's
what
our
Outreach
and
stewardship
coordinator
is
doing
is
to
develop
those
internal
processes.
So
there's
one
Central
intake
one
point
of
contact
with
the
city,
so
they're
not
being
shipped
to
different
departments
in
those
silos
to
try
and
navigate
how
they
can
do
their
projects,
so
that
is
coming
we're
working
with
a
number
of
groups
already
this
spring
on
Buckthorn
removal
projects
and
tree
planting
projects.
H
Excellent
I
do
appreciate
that,
because
my
office
over
the
last
year
had
had
correspondence
with
residents
who
had
obtained
grants
to
undertake
tree
planting
and
it's
not
the
the
fault
of
Forestry,
but
they
were
having
challenges
with
Parks
sitting
down
with
forestry
to
identify
specific
sites.
H
You
know,
and
the
criticism
that
we
would
hear
is
that
you
know
it's
so
hard
to
plant
a
tree
in
a
park
and
it
really
shouldn't
be,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
happy
that
we
are
looking
at
this
tree
planting
strategy
and
that
there's
a
recommendation
that
says
it
will
take
a
proactive
approach
to
tree
planting
on
city
property
within
the
road
right
of
way
in
parks
and
on
other
City
properties,
because,
like
I
said
it
shouldn't
be
a
challenge
for
a
resident
who
was
actually
found
dollars
to.
H
The
other
item
that
I
would
agree
with
my
colleagues
on
is
is
about
the
proactive
nature
of
the
a
tree
in
trust
program
in
looking
at
different
models
to
be
more
proactive
rather
than
reactive,
because
within
the
last
term,
we
had
a
great
initiative
under
the
building,
better
revitalized
neighborhoods
project
in
a
Vanier,
South
and
Overbrook
to
really
identify
sites,
and
we
undertook
a
scenario
where
dollars
were
spent
to
on
Consultants
to
identify
sites
for
for
planting
and
we
identified
over
380
properties.
H
But
the
challenge,
of
course,
was
getting
the
owners,
and
often
the
challenge
is
that
these
are
multi-dwelling
units,
so
identifying
the
owners
to
get
permission.
And
so
we
definitely
need
a
better
model
there,
because
we,
the
community,
was
all
excited.
We
identified
all
of
these
properties
and
the
uptake
you
know
it
wasn't
as
aggressive
as
we
would
have
liked.
H
I
I
would
Hazard
to
say
that
I
think
that
there
was
some
level
of
success,
but
I
found
that
that
was
a
unique
model
to
go
directly
to
the
residents
and
ask
them
to
participate
in
the
program.
But
I
I
would
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
whatever
the
replacement
of
the
program
that
we
seek
should
be
more
proactive
than
reactive,
just
my
question
and
observations.
Thank
you
chair
great.
E
You
chair
to
staff:
if,
if
you
were
to
ask
the
average
riverward
resident,
if
they
felt
the
city
of
Ottawa,
was
winning
the
war
on
tree
loss,
what
do
you
think
they
would
say.
E
When
construction
started
at
the
South
Keys
LRT
station,
it's
not
an
LRT
station,
yet
the
transit
station,
the
city,
clear-cut
hundreds
of
trees
around
the
station
public,
didn't
not
repeat
from
the
public,
but
hundreds
of
trees
were
were
removed
and
there's
no
substantial
replanting
plan
coming
right
beside
it.
The
Wendy,
Stewart
stormwater
ponds
are
going
to
be
dredged
later
this
year.
Staff
have
to
go
in
and
and
do
some
cyclical
work
in
the
ponds
we're
going
to
take
out
a
number
of
trees
and
when
my
staff's
there
what's
the
tree
planting
plan.
E
E
It
seems
that
when
the
city
takes
trees
down,
we
don't
hold
ourselves
up
to
the
same
replacing
standards
as
we
impose
on
on
private
landowners
and,
as
we
see
in
river
or
throughout
River
word
with
infill
for
people
who
actually
have
the
financial
means
like
an
1110
Fisher,
where
the
community
hired
a
tree
expert.
That
said,
contrary
to
the
proponents
tree
reports,
that
said
all
the
abutting
trees
will
be.
E
Okay,
they're,
independent
arborist
said
the
exact
opposite
that
the
trees
between
this
property
and
a
school
which
provide
privacy
for
school
children
are
going
to
be
impacted.
So
it's
frustrating
that
trees
don't
seem
to
be
put
on
the
same
priority,
as
maybe
some
other
factors
when
we're
considering
developments
within
the
city,
so
I
definitely
Embrace
this
plan
and
my
residents
certainly
Embrace
trees
and
want
to
see
more
trees.
I
concur
with
comments
about
trees
and
Trust
program.
I
know:
we've
had
conversations
in
the
past.
It
should
be
automatic.
E
E
A
lot
of
parks
in
my
ward
are
large
in
nature
and,
yes,
there's
ample
room
to
run
around
there's
no
amenities
in
in
most
of
of
the
green
space
and
I
think
there
are
opportunities
to
plant,
but
also
to
engage
the
community
and
talk
about
other
fruit,
trees
or
or
food
bearing
trees
that
we
can
engage
the
community
on
school
yards
when
schools
were
built
in
reward.
The
amount
of
land
allocated
for
schools
is
massive
and
again
we're
not
talking
about
space
that
have
amenities
on
it.
E
It's
just
open,
Green
Space,
where
we
cut
the
grass
and
again
there
are
opportunities
to
add
trees
and
again,
obviously
it's
the
school
property,
but
there
are
opportunities
there
in
North
carlington,
when
when
carlington
was
built,
it's
a
bit
of
an
odd
situation.
The
developer
at
the
time,
which
was
a
federal
Crown
at
that
time,
stored
Lumber
in
certain
sections
of
of
the
street,
and
they
built
around
these
stockpiles
of
inventory
and,
as
a
result,
we
have
some
uniquely
shaped
streets.
E
I
call
them
bulb
outs
where
you
have
basically
Green
Space
and
whether
it's
like
a
crescent
or
there's
a
street.
That's
linear,
shaped
East-West
and,
at
the
end,
you've
got
these
bulbs
that
really
serve
no
purpose
other
than
we
cut
the
grass
there
we
have
to.
We
have
to
look
for
these
nuggets
within
Urban
Wards
in
particular,
where
Green
Space
exists,
where
we
can
engage
the
community
and
rather
than
pay
to
cut
grass,
we
can
actually
plant
trees
and
have
a
net
benefit
to
the
community.
So
just
concerns
about
tree
loss.
E
The
proliferation
of
tree
loss,
the
not
one
for
one
replacement
ratio
for
projects
like
LRT
or
some
City,
Public,
Works
jobs
that
happen
and
an
expectation
for
my
residents
that
we
need
to
do
much
more
to
increase,
to
protect
trees,
to
replace
trees
when
they
have
to
come
down
and
have
a
net
increase.
When
we
have
natural
disasters
that
take
trees
down,
we
just
can't
plant
the
same
number
of
trees
that
we
planted
last
year.
There
has
to
be
a
significant
increase
in
the
in
the
following
years
for
those
natural
disasters.
E
M
No,
we
have
been
hearing
this
loud
and
clear
about
the
trees
and
Trust
program
in
this
move
to
proactive
from
reactive
and
so
I
think
that
we
are
well
on
our
way
with
that
and
it's
just
now
to
sit
down
and
do
the
work
to
figure
out,
as
Tracy
talked
about
earlier,
exactly
how
we're
going
to
do
this.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that
and
yeah
I
think
we've
heard
enough
from
counselors
here
and
I
got
counselor
tuning
next
on
the
list
here.
But
I
think
we've
heard
enough
from
counselors
here
about
that
proactive
nature
of
the
trees
and
Trust
that
automatic
replanting,
whether
it's
a
letter
in
their
mailbox
saying
that
your
tree
is
going
to
be
replaced
or
something
else,
and
if
there's
feedback,
then
fine,
but
your
tree
is
going
to
be
replaced
and
you
know
I
appreciate
that
that
direction
has
taken
from
from
this
committee.
Counselor
Tierney.
I
Great,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chair
and
just
one
quick
thing.
I
I
I
actually
wanted
to
say
kudos
to
staff.
For
many
decades,
I've
lived
in
this
house
bucking
getting
a
tree.
My
wife
has
always
wanted
a
tree
and
we
actually
got
I,
don't
even
know
what
kind
of
tree
this
is
a
ginkgo
biloba
and
the
staff
were
very
effective
in
coming
in
and
putting
the
hole
on
the
ground.
Putting
the
tree
in
the
ground
and
I'm
I
should
have
done
it
a
long
time
ago.
I
So
thank
you
to
staff
I
think
they
do
a
terrific
job
and
just
word
to
our
Council
colleagues.
When
I
tell
people
about
this
program,
they're
excited
a
lot
of
people,
don't
know
it
exists
and
we
have
a
great
opportunity
to
start
getting
more
trees
online.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
Steph.
That's
all
Mr
chair.
A
Great
comments,
counselor
Terry,
thank
you
and
I
think
going
along
with
that
too.
Sometimes
you
know,
trees
are
rotted
out;
they
have
to
remove
the
stumps
to
our
stump.
Removal
team
is
excellent
as
well
and
they
do
good
work.
I
know
it's
been
a
lot
more
work
recently
with
the
devastation
that
we've
seen.
I
do
want
to
just
go
through
a
couple
of
pieces
here
and
also
thank
and
support
the
work
of
Staff.
Obviously,
you've
had
a
big
ramp
up
and
we
needed
a
quick
ramp
up
right.
A
We
have
the
official
plan
the
treat
protection
bylaw,
the
infill
piece.
We
now
have
the
the
bylaw
review
work
plan
going
on
as
well
so
a
lot
happening
and-
and
we
need
that
to
move
quickly.
So
thank
you
for
all
of
your
work
over
the
years.
I
think
we're
in
a
much
better
place
now.
I
do
have
a
few
questions
just
from
the
delegations
that
we
had
so
on
the
the
data
on
the
flyovers.
A
When,
when
is
that
flyover
data
coming
back
to
the
community
and
committee,
when
will
we
see
that
public
data.
M
So
we're
just
in
the
beginning
phases
of
starting
to
work
on
the
analysis
and
we
plan
for
it
to
come
back
towards
the
end
of
this
year.
So
later
in
the
fall
is
when
we'll
be
reporting
back
on
that,
and
if
we
run
into
any
hurdles
then
it
might
be
into
January.
But
that's
what
our
plans
are
right
now
we're
working
on
it.
A
M
A
Very
helpful,
so
obviously
we
heard
a
lot
about
data.
The
30
centimeter
diameter
base
height
in
Suburban
areas,
which
was
a
motion
we
passed
last
tournament,
Council
I
know
there
was
consultation
on
that.
Can
you
just
update
committee
on
that
piece?
Yeah.
M
Absolutely
thank
you
so
much
we're
going
to
be
bringing
this
forward
in
the
fall
as
well.
We
have
to
do
that
consultation
piece
soon
and
now
we're
coming
up
against
the
summer,
so
we're
just
sort
of
strategizing,
with
our
business
support
team,
on
exactly
the
best
approach
for
that,
but
but
that
it's
I
guess.
From
my
perspective,
it's
a
simple
adjustment
and
we
and
we
plan
to
come
forward
early
in
the
fall
on
that.
A
Thank
you.
That's
that's
also
very
helpful.
I
know
a
lot
of
suburban
colleagues.
I'm
sure
will
appreciate
that
piece
too,
on
the
question
around
permits.
Fines
and
sort
of
basic
information
about
this.
Is
that
something
that
the
the
city
has
and
can
it
produce
that
type
of
information
for
for
residents
in
a
rolled
up
fashion,
yeah.
M
Absolutely
so,
in
terms
of
the
number
of
permits
that
we
issue
every
year,
we've
been
reporting
on
that
I
think
for
about
eight
years,
two
terms
of
council.
Now
and
usually
we
come
forward
with
with
a
memo
Every
Spring
on
that
this
year,
we've
taken
a
different
approach
and
we
actually
have
the
information
on
open
data
Ottawa,
and
so
we
can
provide
that
link
to
everyone.
I
think
anyways.
M
We
can
provide
that
link
to
everyone
after
this
and
that
the
data
is
there
and
we
plan
to
continue
doing
it
that
way
moving
forward,
but
I
will
caution
that
the
data
for
this
year
or
the
last
two
years
is
what
what
you'll
see
since
the
new
bylaw
has
come
into
effect.
It
isn't
really
comparable
to
our
data
of
the
past,
because
the
bylaw
has
changed
so
much
in
various
different
ways
in
terms
of
size
and
the
way
we
do
the
permitting
and
stuff
like
that,
and
and
also
just
to
Echo.
M
One
of
our
delegations
talked
about
sort
of
looking
at
the
number
of
permits
issued
as
a
reflection
of
sort
of
how
we're
doing
you
know.
The
urban
Forest
is
a
sort
of
an
always
changing
entity
with
the
development
and
and
storms,
and
you
know
for
Forest
growth
and
all
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
really
we
we
like
to
focus
on
that
canopy
cover,
as
are
data
element,
to
understand
how
the
forest
is
doing.
A
Perfect,
that's
very
fulsome
answer
and
really
appreciate
that.
That's
out
there
with
regard
to
the
trees
and
Trust
program,
when
do
you
anticipate
timing,
wise
that
that
could
be
changed
and
to
come
back?
I
know,
obviously,
there's
a
reporting
period
here
on
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
and
that's
a
longer
reporting
period,
but
in
terms
of
the
interim
measures
for
that,
what
kind
of
timeline
would
you
be
looking
at
for
a
change
in
that
program.
M
Yeah,
so
I
think
we
need
to
sort
of
take
do
so.
We
have
a
couple
of
steps
we
need
to
do
so.
We
need
to
do
our
project
plan
for
the
tree
planting
strategy
and
do
some
consultation
on
that
and
and
then
identify
our
priorities.
We've
all
talked
about
this
today.
It's
clear
that
that's
a
priority
right,
so
I
don't
expect
that
to
change,
and
then
we
have
to
start
doing
our
work
on
that
and
looking
at
exactly
how
this
could
roll
out.
M
So
I
would
expect
that
it's
something
we
towards
the
end
of
next
year,
kind
of
thing
that
we
might
be
able
to
come
back.
We
haven't
determined
our
timeline
yet
so
when
we
develop
that
project
plan,
then
we'll
have
a
better
timeline
on
some
of
these
sort
of
early
action
items
that
we've
been
talking
about.
V
Yeah
we
may,
we
may
look
at
rolling
it
out
on
a
smaller
scale.
To
begin
with,
like
have
the
trees
and
Trust
program
still
running
across
the
city.
Just
to
evaluate
that
you
know
what
is
that
Outreach
piece?
We
don't
want
to
roll
it
out
city-wide,
potentially,
if
we
need
to
really
work
on
work
more
on
that
communication
with
the
homeowners
we
did
have
fairly
good
communication
with
homeowners,
with
our
our
full
Street
replacements
for
Emerald
dashboard.
V
It
was
still
difficult.
We
still
got
a
lot
of
pushback
from
some
residents
that
didn't
want
the
tree
and
that
creates
operational
issues
when
we're
in
front
of
your
house
with
a
tree,
and
you
want
us
to
leave
so
on,
but
on
the
flip
side
there
are.
There
are
many
people
that
don't
know
about
trees
and
trusts.
V
We
can
in
the
meantime,
you
know,
get
the
word
out
more
about
trees
and
trusts
through
a
website
through
social
media
to
to
get
more
people
participating
in
that,
but
I
I
see
it
and
Martha
and
I
haven't.
We
haven't
really
talked
about
how
how
we
roll
this
out
but
I.
In
my
mind,
I
see
it
rolling
out
on
a
small
scale
to
begin
with
and
then
and
then
going
city-wide.
A
That's
really
helpful
information
and
yeah
I
think
that
letter
in
the
mailbox
in
advance
just
saying
hey
we're
planning
to
plant
replant
a
tree
here.
If
you
have
any
questions,
let
us
know
and
you'll
you'll
know
push
back
then
so
it
avoids
the
kind
of
person
on
the
street
with
the
tree
ready
to
go
without
having
informed
them
in
advance,
but
just
wanted
to
say
thanks
so
much
for
all
of
your
work.
We
want
to
support
you
with
the
the
resources
you
need
to
be
ambitious
here.
A
D
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
just
make
an
editorial
comment
about
the
trees
and
Trust
I
would
love
to
see
a
proactive
program.
I've
wanted
one
replaced
on
my
lawn
for
years,
but
my
husband
somehow
thinks
that
his
extensive
Halloween
display
prevents
him
from
having
one
and
I
I
know.
Bylaws
were
revised
through
little
free
libraries,
but
not
Halloween
displays
so
I'll
be
sending
I'll
be
sending
bylaw
after
him
this
year
until
I
get
my
tree
anyhow.
D
I
just
wanted
to
just
speak
quickly
to
the
motion
before
we
hopefully
carry
it
or
vote
on
it.
You
know
today
we
heard
loud
and
clear
from
from
all
delegates
and
counselors
the
importance
of
tree.
The
tree
issues
have
whether
it's
tree
canopy
tree
maintenance,
tree
planting,
so
I
think
most
people
will
I
think
everybody
will
support.
My
motion.
I
hope.
D
We've
had
an
opportunity
today
to
look
at
the
achievements
from
the
urban
Forest
master
plan
over
the
first
term
of
management
and
also
seeing
how
we've
needed
to
adjust
that
work
plan
to
account
for
unforeseen
circumstances
and
the
fact
that
ultimately
was
a
really
ambitious
plan
with
not
enough
resources.
So
it's
pleased
to
hear
you're
adding
a
couple
more
resources,
but
when
I
look
at
the
plan
for
what
you
have
ahead,
I
personally,
don't
think
it's
it's
sufficient.
I!
D
Don't
think
this
area
is
resourced,
enough
we're
hearing
the
the
cries
from
everybody
about
needing
more
resources,
and
so
what
I'm?
Essentially,
this
motion
is
asking
for
recognizing
that
this
is
not
linked
to
budget
2024.
D
That
will
be
a
separate
process
but
I'm
asking
for
a
clear
picture
of
the
work
plan
that
has
been
presented
as
part
of
the
ufmp
to
get
an
actual
look
at
how
many
resources
that
you
think
will
be
necessary,
taking
into
account
the
level
of
risks,
the
different
resourcing
level,
and
if
you
could
bring
that
back
to
committee.
So
just
do
I
read
in
the
therefore
we.
D
Perfect
so
I'll
just
read
the
last
Clause
so
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
staff
report
back
to
committee
with
a
fully
costed
version
of
the
work
plan
presented
in
the
urban
Forest
management
Plan
update
and
include
the
anticipated
ft
requirement
to
carry
out
the
work
plan
and
outline
workplace
plan
scenarios
and
timelines
based
on
Resorts
availability.
Thanks.
A
Very
much
voice
recorder
is
that
motion
carried
okay.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
appreciate
appreciate
that
one
and
is
the
item
carried
as
amended?
Can
we
carry
this
item?
Okay.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
appreciate
all
your
work
and
thanks
for
that
update
next
up
is
in
camera
items,
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
in-camera
items
and
then
next
is
motions
of
which
notice
has
been
previously
given.
Councilor
Hill
has
a
substitute
motion
which
was
circulated
to
the
one
introduced
at
the
last
committee
meeting
councilor.
P
Yes,
if
I
may
chair,
I'll
just
read
the
therefore
beat
result.
Those
are
the
only
pieces
that
change
from
this.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
investigate
options
through
financial
institutions
and
other
levels
of
government
for
green
financing
models.
P
That
would
encourage
home
buyers
to
invest
in
green
and
energy,
efficient
Technologies
as
part
of
their
new
home
purchase
by
reducing
The,
Upfront
financing
barriers
and
therefore,
be
it
further
resolved
that
staff
review
options
to
expand
existing
City
programs
to
create
green
and
energy,
efficient
investment
incentives
for
new
home
buyers
and
therefore
be
it
further
result
involved.
That
staff
provide
an
update
on
both
efforts
for
environment
committees,
review
by
Q2
of
2024.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
I'll
see.
If
there's
any
questions
by
committee
and
Alaska
staff
to
potentially
come
up
here
as
well.
Mr.
P
A
P
You
want
to
motivate
me
I
think
if
I
just
give
a
quick
introduction
that
that
would
speak
to
it
go
ahead.
P
This
motion
kind
of
came
from
two
spots:
Mr
chair
first
off
I
had
a
great
conversation
with
one
of
the
members
of
my
Community
Association,
who
took
a
full
advantage
of
the
Better
Home
Loans
program
for
a
retrofit,
and,
secondly,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
to
visit
the
site
of
a
pilot
program
out
in
my
ward,
where
they're
actually
doing
a
Greenfield
geothermal
development
and
in
discussing
quite
at
length
with
the
with
the
institution
that
was
doing
that
development.
P
It
was
identified
that
the
consumer
barrier
to
to
purchasing
these
homes
was
was
more
significant,
that
they'd,
perhaps
anticipated
and-
and
that
was
a
key
barrier
to
incentivizing
broader
application
to
this.
P
So
essentially,
because
the
current
market
for
Green,
Technology
and
homes
is
geared
towards
early
adopters,
which
would
be
those
who
have
a
passion,
knowledge
and
financial
assets
to
invest
in
the
new
technology.
The
goal
of
this
motion
is
really
to
reduce
the
barriers
in
order
to
broadly
mainstream
investment
in
premium
environmental
upgrades,
such
as
geothermal
heat
pumps
and
solar
panels.
P
Etc
goal
is
to
is,
for
the
city
here
to
act
as
a
thought
leader
and
to
provide
coordination
function
amongst
our
aligned
stakeholders
recognizing
that
we're
limited
to
what
we
can
do
internally
and
in
no
way
am
I,
suggesting
that
the
city
should
try
and
go
It
Alone
or
to
to
broadly
subsidize
anything.
P
But
we
can
work
with
the
numerous
other
organizations
that
share
the
goal
of
increasing
environmental
home
upgrades
organizations
that
I'm
thinking
of
would
include
the
Ottawa
homebuilders
Association
cmhc
financial
institutions,
the
broader
construction
industry,
advocacy
groups,
Amo
fcm
and
both
other
levels
of
government
who
I
believe
all
have
the
shared
goal
of
trying
to
increase
these
types
of
green
upgrades
in
home
ownership.
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions
for
me
happy
to
address
it
other
than
that
Mr
chair,
that's
all.
A
L
Yeah
I,
just
I,
sent
that
question
to
to
counselor
Hill
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
second
be
it
resolved,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
staff
review
options
to
expand
existing
City
programs
to
create
green
and
an
energy
and
efficient
investment
in
some
of
your
new
home
buyers.
L
Just
so
question
to
the
Mover
I,
don't
know
much
about
the
city
programs
that
you're
referring
to.
So
could
you?
Let
me
know
what
are
the
existing
City
programs
that
you
are
requesting
that
staff
review.
P
P
If
staff
were
to
identify
something
in
that
area
that
that
could
be
Incorporated,
but
certainly
to
reiterate
the
key
thing
that
I'm
looking
for
is
for
the
city
to
provide
somewhat
of
a
coordination
function
that
a
liaison
function
in
order
to
look
into
options
with
those
stakeholder
groups,
for
whom
I
believe
have
a
shared
interest
in
this
outcome
and
for
which
I
think
we
could
find
some
good
option.
Space
I'll
give
I'll
give
you
an
example,
counselor
Divine.
P
If
a
person
was
eligible
to
to
get
a
mortgage
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
build,
you
know,
and
their
option
was
get
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
house
with
you
know
natural
gas
or
to
get
an
upgrade
to
a
570
000
house
that
has
a
geothermal
heat
pump
and
perhaps
some
solar
paneling
with
it.
P
The
the
consumer
Trend
at
present
would
be
that
they
would
likely
get
the
natural
gas
option,
but
if
there
was
a
mechanism
within
the
financial
institutions
for
which,
for
example,
that
green
component
of
the
principle
could
be
coupled
and
then
backended
or
if
there
were
other
options
that
that
could
be
presented
to
to
support
that
it
would
further
incentivize
them.
So
this
is
simply
looking
at
Option
space
to
reduce
The
Upfront
barriers
that
currently
exist
to
create
outcomes.
P
That
I
think
this
city
wants,
which
is
improving
the
the
environmental
technology
and
a
premium
in
new,
builds.
Okay.
L
And
as
I
think
I
convey
to
you,
while
I'm,
certainly
supportive
of
the
Innovative
approach
you
are
taking
to
looking
at
how
we
can
get
these
kinds
of
advancements
done,
because
I'm
not
sufficiently
familiar
with
the
existing
City
programs.
You're
referring
to
I,
never
know
whether
or
not
a
request
to
expand.
City
programs
might
mean
steering
a
city
program
outside
of
the
scope
and
parameters
of
what
it's
originally
meant.
L
For
and
I
don't
have
any
comment
from
staff
on
this
and
what
might
be
the
potential
implications
of
expanding
existing
City
programs?
Is
there
anyone
from
staff
who
can
comment
on
that
element
of
the
motion.
A
Yes,
there
is,
and
so
we'll
ask
Andrea
flowers
to
to
speak
to
that
and
any
other
questions
that
might
come
up
from
staff
Etc
through.
C
Councilor
Devine,
our
existing
Better
Homes
Auto
alone
program
use,
uses
a
mechanism
called
a
local
Improvement
charge
and
that
local
Improvement
charge
we
we
are
going
to
explore
to
see
whether
or
not
we
can
use
that
mechanism
to
apply
additional
costs
to
the
tax
bill
so
that
the
homeowner
would
pay
it
back
over
time.
So
that's
a
very
concrete
example
of
how
this
program,
we
think,
could
be
used
to
your
question
around
whether
it
expands
the
Mandate.
Yes,
it
does.
L
Okay,
thank
you,
I'll
see
what
other
of
my
colleagues
might
have
to
say,
but
the
motion
I
may
put
my
hand
back
up,
but
thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'm
generally
supportive
of
this
motion,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
I
could
ask
the
Mover
or
whether
he'd
be
amenable
to
a
small
Amendment
or
change
an
addition
where
we
State
staff
be
directed
to
investigate
options
through
financial
institutions
as
well
as
energy
utilities,
and
my
suggestion
here
is
due
to
the
fact
that
many
utilities
utilize
on
Bill
financing
and
there's
many
examples
and
other
jurisdictions,
such
as
Manitoba.
That's
provided
over
370
million
dollars
in
loans
to
support
Energy
Efficiency
model
measures.
H
These
are
typically
for
for
upgrades,
but
it'd
be
interesting
to
see.
You
know
whether
this
type
of
financing
for
new
construction
could
be
Advanced
by
energy
utilities
such
as
Hydro,
Ottawa
and
and
others.
So
just
wondering
if
you
were
amenable
to
that
addition
to
to
your
motion,
I.
P
Believe
so
could
you
could
you
speak
to
specifically
where
it
goes,
but
I
think
that's
a
that's
very
amenable.
A
Okay,
thanks
very
much
for
that
counselor
King.
So
that's
a
friendly
Amendment
into
the
motion.
Counselor
Brockington
thanks.
E
Chair
I'm
still
seeking
clarification
about
the
basics
here
of
what
this
motion
will
realize.
Should
it
be
successful,
so
can
staff
just
articulate
for
me
your
understanding
of
what
this
motion
would
Direct.
C
Well,
maybe
I'll
start
chair
with
the
rationale
on
the
Gap
I
think
that
this
motion
addresses
right
now.
Staff
has
no
direction
to
work
with
financial
institutions
to
the
friendly
amendment.
I,
don't
think
we
have
explicit
direction
to
you
to
work
with
the
utility
providers
on
things
like
on
Bill
financing
and
I
think
it
fills
a
gap
in
some
of
the
other
work
that
we
have
done
or
we
are
starting
to
do
as
it
relates
to
high
performance
development
standards.
C
So
some
of
the
criticism
that
we
heard
for
the
proposed
high
performance
development
standards
was
that
it
wouldn't
capture
and
anything
under
10
units,
and
this
could
help
that.
So
it
starts
to
look
at
incentives
across
the
board
for
all
Technologies.
In
terms
of
where
that
goes.
Of
course,
we
don't
know,
we
haven't
done
the
exploration
yet
and
we
don't
know
how
it
will
align
with
other
changes
that
the
province
is
making
to
the
energy
code
for
buildings
or
cancels
future
decisions
related
to
the
high
performance
development
standard.
P
I
think
that's
a
component
I
I,
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
limited
to
subsonization
I
mean
if
you,
if
you
can,
if
you're
qualified
for
a
500
000
mortgage
and
the
home
you
want
to
buy
that
has
premium
environmental
upgrades
costs
550
000.
Perhaps
a
mechanism
that
we
could
unlock
here
is
for
that
additional
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
not
count
against
your
qualification
so
that
you
can
in
fact
purchase
that
home,
despite
the
fact
that
that
component,
otherwise
presently
would
take
you
over
your
qualification
limit.
P
That's
an
example:
I'm
not
saying
we
can
get
there
I'm
just
saying
with
some
research.
Perhaps
that's
an
angle
we
could
get
to.
I
gave
another
example
of
perhaps
where
that
additional
green
principled
component
could
get
bundled
and
instead
of
being
initially
part
of
your
mortgage.
That
could
be
back
ended
to
the
to
a
payment
system
where
once
you've
paid
the
entirety
of
your
mortgage,
perhaps
that
could
that
could
start
payment
at
the
back
end.
P
E
S
P
Not
what
I'm
asking
I'm
asking
for
staff
to
look
into
options
with
those
stakeholders
to
see
if
there
are
mechanisms
that
we
can
reduce
that
initial
financing
barrier,
because
that
is
the
problem
from
a
consumer
Trends
perspective
when
they
are
looking
at
purchasing.
So
there's
statistics
in
the
market
right
now,
that
would
say
if
you
have
the
option
to
buy
a
natural
gas
house
or
a
heat
pump
house
you're
going
to
go,
most
people
will
go
with
the
natural
gas
house
because
of
the
costing
there.
P
What
I'm
saying
is,
if
there's
a
mechanism
that
we
can
work
with
those
institutions
in
order
to
to
innovatively
find
a
solution
to
that
financing.
Piece:
I'm,
not
saying
subsidize
it
I'm
saying,
but
to
be
Innovative
with
the
way
that
that
mortgage
piece
is
working.
Then
then,
let's
see
if
we
can
Implement
that.
E
Okay,
I'll
have
to
take
this
online
because
I
completely
do
not
understand
the
role
that
the
city
would
play
in
this
regard.
So
I'm
not
going
to
vote
against
this,
but
I'll
take
it
upon
myself
to
to
sit
with
counselor
Hill,
to
better
understand
why
we
would
want
to
direct
our
staff
time
and
resources
in
this
matter.
I'm
not
saying
the
end
result
isn't
worthy
I
think
the
end
result
is
worthy
to
make
improvements,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
the
city
of
ottawa's
role
here.
A
A
Perhaps
this
is
a
information
piece
coordination
that
type
of
piece
that
that's
coming
forward,
but
I
don't
think
it's
obviously
our
responsibility
to
to
do
this,
but
to
look
into
it
I
think
that's
what
the
motion's
getting
at
is
to
look
into
it
with
other
other
orders
and
other
financial
institutions.
L
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
think
I
share,
my
colleague,
councilor
brockington's
confusion
and
uncertainty
over
the
end
results
of
the
motion
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
and
I
I
guess,
I
wish,
I
understood
it
better
and
that's
that's
on
me
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
that
what
position
that
puts
me
in
terms
of
supporting
it
and
I
suppose
I
Echo
the
question
about
whether
or
not
this
is
a
responsibility
borne
by
the
city
and
ultimately,
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
whether
or
not
because
I
believe
I
heard
Andrea
I,
believe
I,
heard
staff
saying
so
I
suppose.
L
My
question
is
whether
or
not
this
ends
up
being
a
new
cost
that
would
be
born
either
by
the
taxpayer
as
a
whole
or
the
property
taxpayer
I.E
the
purchase
or
or
whether
or
not
without
this
implementation.
This
would
be
a
cost
that
would
be
borne
by
the
Builder
developer.
L
So
I
can't
tell
if
there
is
a
savings
to
be
done
here.
I'm.
Forgive
me
for
not
understanding
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
savings
is
to
the
developer,
Builder
to
the
resident
or
so
forth,
can
you
shed
any
more
clarity
on
that
Andrea.
C
Through
you,
chair,
counselor,
that's
part
of
the
exploration
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
the
combination
of
the
incentives
that
are
referenced,
as
well
as
the
tools
that
municipalities
have
available
to
them
and
then
present
what
our
findings
are.
Some
of
the
re
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
motion
helps
staff
is
because
there
is
not
currently
an
entity
who
is
doing
that.
Coordination
amongst
other
levels
of
government
or
the
utilities
or
those
other
stakeholders
and
the
municipality
has
unique
tools
that
are
not
available
to
those
other
partners.
C
L
Okay,
thank
you
for
giving
me
that
Clarity
I
think
what
you
know.
What
I'm
getting
a
sense
here
is
that,
what's
being
proposed,
is
an
exploration
with
an
uncertain
expectation
of
where
that
exploration
leads.
As
as
often
exploration
does
so.
I
have
two
questions
based
on
that.
L
Would
this
okay?
What
sounds
like
the
motion
is
asking
for
staff
to
do
additional
work
or
new
work.
Would
that
additional
work,
distract
staff
from
other
areas
of
concern
or
priority
that
have
already
been
scoped
out
and
determined
to
be
priorities,
or
is
this
new
additional
work
to
be
easily
achievable
within
your
existing
resources
and
then
I
have
a
follow-up
question.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Through
you,
chair,
counselor
Hill,
generously
revised
the
motion
to
give
us
some
additional
time.
We
weren't
confident
with
the
original
motion
that
we
could
deliver
by
q1,
but
based
on
our
discussion,
he's
moved
that
to
Q2
and
with
the
change
in
timing.
We
are
confident
that
we
can
create
that
we
can
do
the
work
in
that
timeline.
L
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
I'll
hold
off
on
my
second
question.
Thanks
thank.
G
Thank
you
much
very
much
chair,
I,
appreciate
that
we're
trying
to
work
towards
finding
ways
to
make
the
old
things
Greener
I
just
feel
that
I
want
to
know
what
the
federal
government's
doing
are.
Are
we
working
with
fcm
on
all
the
programs
that
are
available
and
what
the
Ambitions
are
to
make
sure
that
this
is
across
Canada?
This
is
not
just
Ottawa
I.
Don't
think
our
taxpayers
should
be
burdened
with
just
with
something
that
is
a
national
problem.
G
It's
a
global
problem,
but
that's
my
concern
also
the
fact
that
it's
tied
in
with
home
ownership
I'm
concerned
because
we're
trying
to
work
on
affordable
housing
and
and
how
that
works
into,
because
we
want
encouragement
for
affordable
housing
and
I,
don't
know
how
that
how
that
would
fit
into
this.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
through
you
chair.
Yes,
we
are
working
with
our
partners
across
the
country
on
a
range
of
programs
that
includes
Partners,
like
the
Federation
of
acute
Canadian
municipalities.
C
Ottawa
was
a
one
of
a
number
of
municipalities
that
received
that
funding,
and
we
continue
to
work
with
those
municipalities
as
they
roll
out
their
respective
programs.
We're
also
members
of
the
Canadian
Urban
sustainability
practitioners,
Network,
which
routinely
shares
information
and
tries
to
align
or
collaborate
on
a
variety
of
both
programmatic,
strategic
and
policy
issues.
In
fact,
this
afternoon,
fcm
is
hosting
their
first
policy
table
with
the
seven
largest
cities
in
Canada
to
speak
explicitly
about
climate
change
and
the
role
that
policy
plays.
C
In
some
of
these
discussions
and
as
was
noted
earlier,
there
is
a
rule
for
the
federal
government,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
things
like
the
mortgage
act.
The
federal
government
is
also
providing
a
range
of
funding
to
homeowners
through
zero
interest
grants
through
the
Canadian
mortgage
mortgage
housing,
Corporation
cmhc,
to
support
some
of
that
retrofit
and
we
have
endeavored
to
try
and
align
our
program.
The
Better
Homes
Ottawa
Loan
program
with
some
of
the
programs
that
cmhd
has
rolled
out
for
that
serial
home
interest
loan.
C
C
Certainly
less
discussion
at
the
provincial
level,
we
are
working
with
our
provincial
counterparts
and,
in
this
context,
I
think
it
will
be
important
to
work
with
our
provincial
counterparts,
both
as
the
Ontario
building
code
is
being
updated
for
the
energy
components
and
as
the
province
moves
towards
higher
development
standards
for
new
development
in
the
province.
So
we'll
continue
to
work
with
our
colleagues
in
Ontario
related
to
that.
Some
of
the
things
that
we'll
explore
will
also
be
Municipal
tools
that
will
be
exclusive
to
our
colleagues
in
Ontario,
not
necessarily
those
in
other
provinces.
G
There
seems
to
be
around
home
ownership,
and-
and
it's
just
my
concern-
that
we're
our
push
needs
to
be
on
affordable
housing
so
and
Greening
up,
affordable
housing
is,
is
a
priority.
So
how
could
that
be
integrated
into
this.
C
I
Great,
thank
you.
Mr,
chair
and
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Hill
for
bringing
this
forward.
It
was
a
real
interesting
for
the
counselors
that
attended
how
how
you
look
at
an
identical
set
of
housing
in
one
area
that
is
powered
by
natural
gas
versus
the
other
area
and
to
councilor
Hills
point
and
fcm
certainly
has
done
a
great
job.
I
think
our
program's
oversubscribed
for
retrofits,
which
is
great
news.
People
want
to
do
their
part
and
now
talking
about
new,
builds
if
there's
opportunities
exploring.
That
is
great.
I
I
You
know
this.
This
is
this:
is
a
no-brainer
it'll
steal
a
lot
from
counselor
Carr
that
that
we
have
a
great
opportunity
here
just
to
go
out
and
look
at
this
people
if
they
knew
and
a
good
example
would
be
when
Peter
Hume
decided
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
community
center,
because
the
community
felt
it
was
a
a
big
deal
and
applied
a
local
Levy
within
a
certain
District.
I
If,
on
a
new
build
that
opportunity
exists,
it
doesn't
cost
taxpayers
it's
just
baked
in
but
doesn't
affect
their
opportunity
to
be
able
to
to
get
that
mortgage
based
on
their
percentages.
Why
not
at
least
explore
it
as
an
idea?
I'm
I'm
I
feel
I'm
in
Wally
World
here
arguing
about
trying
to
get
a
opportunity
for
people,
especially
younger,
and
our
new
generations
coming
down
the
pipe
that
want
to
protect
our
environment.
I
It
behooves
us
if
we
didn't
allow
the
discussion
or
to
go
out
and
do
the
research
and
I
know
councilor
Hill
will
connect
with
others
about
those
kind
of
opportunities
between
now
and
Council,
but
I
fully
intend
on
supporting
this
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
tour.
It
was
great
and
the
donuts
were
terrific
as
well.
So
thanks
a
lot
to
councilor
Hill.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
that
Council
Community
I'll
just
add
my
voice
to
this
too
I
think
it's
a
bit
ironic,
because
we've
just
been
around
this
table
previously
in
that
Council
talking
about
the
hpds
right
and
obviously
that
would
bake
in
a
lot
of
this
for
those
larger
builds
and
obviously
it's
extremely
important
that
our
municipality
pass
a
strong
hpds
and
take
it.
A
We've
heard
nothing
back
from
the
province
since
we've
had
these
discussions,
but
this
would
in
effect,
as
councilman
was
just
saying,
bake
in
a
lot
of
those
issues
of
upfront,
Renovations
and
retrofits
or
wouldn't
even
be
retrofits,
would
be
upfront
work
done.
That
would
actually
bake
in
this
savings
to
Residents
over
time
who
purchase
these
homes.
So
I
think
there's
something
to
be
said
about
the
hpds
here
and
all
the
good
work
that
staff
did
on
that
and
the
need
for
us
to
accelerate
that
program
which
is
within
our
jurisdiction.
A
This
would
likely
be
outside
of
our
jurisdiction,
so
I
think
it's
a
bit
ironic,
that's
being
said:
I
think
there
is
some
benefit
here
for
staff
to
to
look
at
this
I'll
support
the
motion,
but
I
think
the
hpds
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
could
bring
forward
with
regard
to
what
we're
talking
about
here
today
and
I
hope.
A
Those
counselors
that
you
know
delayed
that
with
the
the
province
understand
that
we
need
to
pass
that
as
a
council
here,
if
you're,
if
you're
serious
about
the
the
implications
of
what
you're
talking
about
here
so
Council
Hill
allow
you
wrap
up
on
your.
I
Just
point
of
order:
Mr
chair,
my
name
was
mentioned
by
yourself,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
difference
between
where
we
are
going
to
head
with
the
province.
I
think
we're
very
clear
on
that,
but
to
actually
bake
in
that
cost
is
passed
on
to
those
new
homeowners
that
want
to
get
into
the
market,
but
not
allowing
them
to
have
that
amount
of
money.
This
a
local
Levy
wouldn't
be
treated
the
same
way.
I
So
just
just
for
clarification
not
for
not
for
debate
necessarily
but
I
think
you
know
going
out
and
having.
A
Well,
sorry:
cancer
tuning.
You
cut
out
a
little
bit.
You
cut
out
a
little
bit
there
I'm,
not
sure.
If
internet's
an
issue
but
Fair
Fair
Point
that
that
you're
making
I
guess
the
big
thing
for
us
I
know
you're.
A
supporter
of
the
agency
is.
A
Sorry,
sorry,
you
cut
out
a
little
bit
there,
but
and
I
know
you
support
the
hpds
and
and
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
province
came
back
so
appreciate
that
support
and
councilor
Hill
do
you
want
to
wrap
up
on
your
motion.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chair,
no
I
appreciate
the
discussion.
You
know
I
I
I'm,
very
aware
that
this
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
more
abstract
than
perhaps
we're
comfortable
with,
but
this
is
just
looking
to
do.
Some
research
really
I
have
done
some
research
and
it
led
me
to
a
path
to
say:
I
think
there's
something
here,
but
obviously
there's
a
there's
a
function
for
staff
to
play
in
in
in
taking
this
forward
and
I
guess.
P
The
last
comment
I
would
make
is
I
do
see
this
as
being
an
opportunity
that
can
be
synchronized
with
how
we
go
forward
with
the
implementation
of
green
building
code
standards
for
the
city,
and
you
know
this
is
talking
about
other
levels
of
government.
The
green
building
codes
component
is,
you
know,
coordination
with
other
levels
of
government
and
so
I
see
those
two
as
quite
simpatico.
So
thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
for
your
comments
and
thank
you,
colleagues,
for
the
discussion
and
staff
for
your
support.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
can
we
carry
that
motion
carried
okay,
great
so
with
that
we're
at
the
end
of
committee
here.