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Finance and Corporate Services Committee
Meeting #: 6
Date: Tuesday, July 4, 2023
Time: 9:30 am
Location: Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West, and by electronic participation
Agenda: https://pub-ottawa.escribemeetings.com/Meeting.aspx?Id=049abfc3-2e07-4d31-abbc-f997db05ecb8&Agenda=Agenda&lang=English
A
B
Good
morning,
everyone
welcome
thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
I'd
like
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
on
behalf
of
Ottawa
city
council
I
wish
to
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
built
on
the
unseated
anishinaabe
Algonquin
territory.
The
peoples
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
Nation,
have
lived
on
this
territory
for
millennia,
their
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
The
city
of
Ottawa
honors,
the
people
and
land
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
nation
and
honors
all
First
Nations,
Inuit
and
metis
peoples
and
their
valuable
past
and
present
contributions
to
this
land.
D
C
E
F
B
B
B
B
B
G
H
B
J
We're
going
to
have
our
a
few
colleagues
from
OC
Transpo
join
us
here
at
the
table.
They
will
be
doing
some
slides
towards
the
end
of
our
deck,
as
there
was
an
interest
by
a
number
of
members
of
council
with
regards
to
the
transit
advisory
body
that
this
report
was
proposing
to
create.
So
we
thought
it
best
to
have
the
GM's
office
staff
here
to
explain
all
of
their
portions,
so
Tyler's
going
to
take
you
through
Mr
Mayor,
the
presentation
and
with
the
last
few
slides
done
by
our
colleagues
Tyler.
K
K
L
K
Had
various
bodies
traditionally
created
to
provide
advice
to
city
council
committees
and
or
staff,
these
advisory
bodies
supplement
to
the
formal
governance
structure,
standing
committees
and
subcommittees
established
by
Council.
During
the
past
terms
of
council,
these
advisory
bodies
operated
with
varying
levels
of
formalization
and
governance
structures.
K
It's
important
to
note,
Mr
Mayor.
These
advisory
bodies
are
different
than
public
engagement,
something
which
is
much
broader,
involves
things
like
counselors
meetings
with
their
constituents,
engage
Ottawa,
social
media
and
so
forth,
but
here
we're
talking
about
advisory
bodies
and
the
The
Limited
sense
of
the
governance
structure.
K
K
K
K
Advisory
committees
are
now
considered
to
be
local
Boards
of
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
are
therefore
subject
to
certain
mandatory
bylaw
and
policy
requirements.
The
second
category
is
Council
sponsors
groups.
These
are
ad
hoc
advisory
bodies
established
by
standing
committees
or
Council,
to
provide
advice
to
staff.
They
are
typically
composed
of
members
of
council
and
staff.
Unlike
Committees
of
council
sponsors
groups
do
not
have
decision-making.
K
These
are
ad
hoc
advisory
bodies
established
by
staff,
for
instance,
the
general
manager
to
provide
advice
to
staff
they're
typically
composed
to
members
of
the
public
and
staff
they
may
include
members
of
council
and
and
ex-officio
or
liaison
capacity
as
with
Council
sponsors
groups,
department-led,
work
and
groups
are
not
established
under
legislation
and
are
not
considered
local
boards,
but
would
be
subject
to
the
guidance
we
have
proposed
next
slide.
Please.
K
L
K
With
respect
to
council
sponsors
groups
and
departmental-led
working
groups,
we
recommend
that
Council
and
committee
receive
for
information,
the
general
procedural
guidance
for
Council
sponsors
groups
and
department-led
working
groups.
This
includes
things
like
with
transparency,
requirements
and
record
keeping
and
they're
set
out
in
documents.
Five
and
six
of
the
report.
K
We
recommend
that
committee
receive
information
about
the
Mandate
membership
and
other
details
regarding
the
establishment
of
the
Transit
working
group
and
we'll
have
more
information
on
that
in
a
moment.
And,
finally,
we
have
a
housekeeping
recommendation.
If
you
will
that
provides
delegated
authority
to
the
clerk
to
ensure
that
things
like
terms
of
reference,
other
procedures
and
processes
are
kept
current
and,
as
I
mentioned,
Mr
Mayor.
Since
there
is
considerable
interest
in
the
Transit
working
group,
our
colleagues
from
transit
services
will
now
go
over
a
few
slides
on
that
body.
Thank
you.
M
M
L
M
M
Council
also
directed
that
this
new
body
incorporate
equity
and
diversity
to
ensure
a
broad
variety
of
perspectives
are
represented.
Membership
will
include
our
Transit
unions,
our
para
transfer
users
and
be
composed
of
a
majority
of
members
who
identify
as
women,
non-binary,
transgender
or
gender
non-conforming
next
slide.
Please.
M
M
M
In
conclusion,
we
believe
this
is
an
excellent
opportunity
for
our
department
to
collaborate
more
closely
with
our
customers
and
ensure
that
we
are
capturing
many
different
perspectives
as
we
work
to
improve
ottawa's
Transit
Network.
This
initiative
aligns
perfectly
with
our
Department's
five-year
roadmap,
which
includes
our
customers
as
a
foundational
pillar.
Thank
you
over
to
you.
N
N
Question
the
rationale
for
eliminating
esac
at
this
time
of
unprecedented
environmental
crisis
without
a
replacement
body
ready
to
hit
the
ground
running,
people
are
looking
for
leadership
from
their
City
on
this
issue,
and
you
only
have
to
listen
to
what
fellow
citizens
and
constituents
are
talking
about
these
days.
Vis-A-Vis
increasing
storms
and
Smoky
Skies.
There
is
no
guarantee
that
these
working
groups
would
actually
be
struck.
Although
I
believe
that
is
the
intent,
because
the
report
only
says
that
managers
indicate
they
intend
to
establish
groups
as
required
and
moreover,
these
could
be
ad
hoc
groups.
N
Unfortunately,
the
new
structure
only
further
reduces
the
interactions
between
the
public
via
esac
and
its
first
reporting
relationship
with
the
environment
committee
and
elected
officials.
One
of
the
benefits
of
esac
was
that
we
had
a
counselor
from
the
environment
committee
with
whom
we
could
liaise
directly
as
well
as
senior
staff,
so
I
hope
that
any
replacement
body
would
abide
that
direct
access
still
to
council
members.
N
In
the
absence
of
esac,
the
recruitment
process
for
other
advisory
committees
started
began
late
in
2022
or
more
than
six
months
ago,
there
has
been
no
opportunity
for
a
formal
advisory
group
of
citizens
to
provide
input
to
Counsel
on
issues
related
climate
change.
Given
the
council
declared
a
climate
emergency
more
than
four
years
ago
and
with
a
climate
change
related
to
Retro,
2022,
unprecedented
Smoky
skies
are
plaguing
Ottawa
this
past
month,
due
to
climate
change
related
forest
fires.
It's
inconceivable
that
no
advisory
structure
is
in
place.
Moreover,
there
are
concerns.
N
By
the
time
any
working
groups
are
set
up,
it
may
likely
have
been
almost
a
year,
if
not
more,
since
the
current
Council
was
elected,
which
is
troubling
given
the
environment,
increasing
environmental
and
climate
change
threats
where
we
witnessing
when
I
appeared
before
the
environment
committee.
Earlier
this
year
to
present
esac's
report
to
council
I
outlined
a
few
suggested
steps
on
what
could
be
improved
to
enhance
the
value
and
efficacy
of
esak
to
Council
in
the
city,
they're
included
in
a
box
below
in
my
written
submission
and
I
repeated
in
this.
N
Basically,
what
esac
reported
back
to
in
the
fall
of
22
during
the
initial
governance
review,
and
these
were
relatively
minor
recommendations
which
do
not
threaten
the
status
quo
or
the
role
of
City
staff
or
Council.
Yet,
rather
than
adopt
some
of
the
modest
concrete
press
measures,
esac
suggested
for
improving
the
advisory
committee
process,
the
city
clerk
and
staff
have
been
chosen
chosen
instead
to
eliminate
the
committee.
N
There
isn't
a
clear
rationale:
I
know,
there's
a
reference
to
legisl
the
other
bodies
being
legislatively
required,
but
at
any
rate,
I
am
disappointed
and
I
would
ask
urge
Council
to
act
now
to
strike
an
advisory
body,
so
that
informed
citizens
with
environmental
expertise
can
provide
input
to
senior
staff
and
to
Counsel
on
these
pressing
issues.
Perhaps
in
the
case
of
climate
change,
it
could
be
an
interdepartmental
working
group
chair
perhaps
by
the
city's
manager.
N
We
are
the
nation's
capital
and
we
need
to
lead
by
example
when
studying
successful
models
used
in
other
cities
and
Nations
capital
and
addressing
climate
change.
That's
a
multi-faceted
issue.
Urban
housing,
gaps,
equity
and
minority
group
needs
increased
depth,
mental
health
taxpayer,
mental
health,
physical
health
fears
and
economic
realities.
There
was
an
article
yesterday
in
the
New
York
Times,
which
I
can
send
afterwards
talking
about
the
economic
impact
on
Canada
due
to
climate
change,
may
I
suggest
for
immediate
future.
The
city-wide
structure
for
collaboration
be
struck
that
is
cross
departmental.
N
This
topic
has
high,
has
links
with
every
Department.
Climate
change
has
linked
with
almost
every
department
and
City
agency,
public
health
unit,
Ottawa
hydro,
and
needs
to
pull
together
areas
of
responsibility
to
address
the
public
good,
as
stated
in
the
council
term
of
priorities
and
for
human
and
ecosystem
survival,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
that.
This
committee
should
adopt
some
of
the
suggestions.
The
working
group
that
are
set
out
in
my
the
comments
I
provided
esac
provided
to
The
Advisory,
commit
on
advisory
committees
in
the
fall
and
in
the
spring.
N
O
O
I
think
one
thing
I
wanted
to
to
raise
with
you,
because
it's
what
I
raised
with
City
staff
and
our
clerk's
office
during
these
discussions
is
that
it
wouldn't
be
acceptable
to
eliminate
this
without
a
replacement
that
already
uses
the
volunteer
groups
and
others
that
are
very
active
on
the
environment
file
and
a
lot
of
expertise,
and
so
I'll
be
asking
the
clerk's
office
what
the
intent
is
there,
because
I
think
that
is
their
intent
is
to
set
up
an
advisory
type
body.
I.
O
Think
your
your
discussion
around
interdepartmental
working
group
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
I
really
enjoyed
liaising
with
you
last
term
as
the
vice
chair
for
those
four
years
and
working
directly
with
you,
but
I,
I
think
and
maybe
you'll
agree.
This
is
my
question,
for
you
is:
how
do
we
better
utilize
groups
that
want
to
volunteer
and
participate
groups
like
ecology,
Ottawa?
The
riverkeeper
cafes
ways
to
watch
Ottawa,
the
Ottawa
South
Eagle,
Action
Network,
those
types
of
groups.
O
How
can
we
utilize
already
in
place
expert
environmental
volunteers
that
want
to
help
us
say
on
our
tree
planning
strategy
or
the
mayor's
Advisory
Group
on
the
environment?
How
can
we
use
those
already
established
groups
to
ensure
that
we've
got
the
right
expertise,
helping
to
inform
City
staff
and
work
with
them
directly
on
the
reports
that
come
forward
in
a
timely
nature?.
N
N
What
happened
was
Council
well,
first
of
all,
one
of
the
challenges
with
esac
is
we
weren't
allowed
to
set
the
agenda
and
I
think
it
was
an
opportunity.
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
environmental
groups
felt
that
they
were
sort
of
shut
out
of
the
process
of
you
know
they
could
go
to
our
meetings,
but
they
couldn't
really
present
or
request
an
issue
be
discussed
and
I.
N
I
O
O
So
much
for
that
and
mayor
I
know
staff.
You
know
generally
agree
with
the
utilization
of
of
the
expert
volunteers
that
we've
got
from
those
those
different
groups.
I
had
mentioned
and
I
think.
The
idea
is
that
Mr
Hernandez
talked
about
here
can
help
inform
the
next
steps
there
to
get
that
formed
and
I
know.
Staff
have
have
an
understanding
of
that
too.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
you,
know
working
with
with
everyone
to
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
those
volunteer
groups
already
established.
That
can
input
in
a
timely.
B
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you
for
your
delegation,
I
guess
my
question.
It
may
seem
quite
harsh,
but
when
I
hear
people
talk
about
how
we
are
having
an
emergency
in
in
different
sectors
and
how
we're
in
crisis
I,
guess
it
it
shocks
me
that
the
answer
to
that
is
to
set
up
another
committee
and
I
just
want
to
preface
that
was
when
I
was
a
teacher
in
high
schools.
P
The
worst
type
of
high
school
you
could
ever
go
to
is
one
that
was
referred
to
as
committee
City,
because
nothing
ever
got
done
was
just
if
there
was
ever
an
issue.
Well,
let's
set
up
another
committee,
and
so
when
I
listened
to
the
number
of
committees
that
we're
potentially
looking
at
and
and
maybe
more
part
of
me
I
think
you
know
given
how
much
access
we
have
to
data
to
freaking.
We
can
just
go
on
to
chat
gbt
and
get
a
ton
of
data.
P
We
could
go
to
university
of
Ottawa
students,
Carlton
youth
students.
Ask
them
to
do
studies,
get
data
from
all
sources,
and
you
have
elected
representatives
here
who
could
actually
act?
Would
you
rather
that
we
get
some
information,
get
expert
information
and
act
or
set
up
yet
another
committee
to
advise
a
committee
to
advise
counsel.
N
I
guess
my
answer
to
that
is:
yes,
we
need
a
committee.
I
mean
data
is
data,
you
know,
there's
lies,
damn
lies
and
statistics
and
we're
taxpayers
we
live
here.
You
can
look
at
all
the
data,
but
if
you
can
involve
the
people,
the
cafes,
the
ecology,
Ottawa,
the
other
environment
groups
that
are
on
the
ground,
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
implementing
Council
cannot
do
it
by
itself.
You
need
the
citizens
involved,
citizens
who
are
already
involved
in
the
community
community
associations,
the
FCA.
N
They
have
a
good
sense
of
the
lay
of
the
land.
They
can
actually
help.
Carry
these
things
out.
So
a
committee
that
just
does
nothing
I
agree
with
you,
and
that
was
a
frustration
for
many
esac
members
and
we
just
sort
of
I
mean
I
kept
with
it
because
I
figured
it
was
a
good
opportunity
to
you
know.
Try
and
you
know
in
a
small
way
make
changes,
but
that
to
me
is
the
real
key
is
to
get
the
people
involved
and
I
mean
I'll.
Give
you
an
example:
invasive
species.
N
We
all
can
you
can
have
all
the
studies
you
want
in
the
world
that
talk
about
and
say,
yeah,
it's
a
problem,
but
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
it?
If
you
don't
have
people
on
the
ground
that
can
advise
you?
Well
hey.
This
might
be
the
best
way
you
know
set
up
a
you
know,
funds
to
to
remove
endangered
invasive
species
or
set
up
working
days
or
Community
groups.
N
If
you
don't
have
those
answers,
the
people
on
the
ground
and
it's
it's
a
paper
exercise
and
a
properly
utilized
consultation
with
the
public
and
with
advisory
committees
or
working
groups.
We'll
give
you
some
of
the
tools
to
advance
things
so
that
there's
a
win-win
situation.
It's
not
a
Panacea,
but
it's
an
improvement.
P
Q
Thanks
Chris
I'm,
not
on
this
committee,
but
I
came
up
to
you
since
you're
my
resident
and
I
know
from
working
closely
with
you
when
we
were
both
in
community
associations
in
the
same
ward
for
a
number
of
years.
How
dedicated
you
are
to
the
environment?
I
just
want
to
say
I
on
your
last
point
there
you
know
I
do
understand,
first
of
all
the
direction
that
the
advisory
committees
are
going
in
with
respect
to
only
being
legislated.
Q
But
I
don't
disagree
with
you
at
all
that
we
need
something
operational,
Hands-On
and
I.
Look
at
the
success
that
both
my
previous
Community
Association
in
your
previous
Community
Association
have
had,
and
actually
mobilizing
people
around
the
wards
where
we
have
hundreds
of
people
that
actually
remove
invasive
species
from
our
parks
and
green
space,
and
so
it's
something
that
I
will
give
just
to.
Q
S
I'm
here
this
morning,
on
behalf
of
Council
on
Aging
Ottawa,
as
the
newly
elected
president
of
the
board,
we
wrote
to
Council
in
December
last
year
and
again,
I
believe
Friday,
requesting
that
Council
seriously
consider
setting
up
an
advocate
liaison
for
seniors
for
older
adults
and
the
same
for
a
group
that
would
study
the
needs
of
older
adults
and
how
best
to
meet
them.
You'll
recall
that
in
2011
the
World
Health
Organization
recognized
the
city
of
Ottawa
as
an
age-friendly
City.
U
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you,
Miss
Cousino,
for
your
delegation.
I
appreciate
it
very
much.
I
feel
like
I
have
to
declare
conflict
of
interest
since
I'm
in
the
category
now,
but
but
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
to
look
at
seniors
on.
Bayward
has
the
highest
number
of
seniors
in
the
city,
but
would
you
be
satisfied
with
something
like
a
liaison
position
on
Council
somebody
who's
just
looking
over
these
issues?
S
U
U
T
G
V
V
Is
about
the
liaison
position
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
if
there
was
a
liaison
at
Council?
What
do
you
see
as
their
role
in
terms
of
advocating
or
bringing
forth
seniors
positions
on
things?
How
do
you
see
that
interaction
between
the
seniors,
community
and
Council
and
the
decisions
that
are
being
made.
S
We're
looking
for
a
champion,
somebody
who
will
always
bear
in
mind
in
all
the
decisions
that
you
make,
that
there
is
a
growing
population
of
seniors
in
this
city
that
many
of
them,
unfortunately,
don't
have
the
funds
to
look
after
themselves
properly.
A
lot
of
them
are
living
in
poverty.
Housing
is
a
major
major
problem
for
some
seniors
health
care.
Well,
we
won't
even
discuss
health
care
because
we
all
know
what
what
it
has
entailed
for
seniors.
So
what
we're
looking
for
in
our
liaison
officer
is
is
really
a
champion.
Laura.
O
I
W
W
I'll
start
with
a
brief
intro
and
a
little
bit
how
we
see
the
context
so
cafes.
Most
of
you
know,
cafes
we're
a
public
interest
network
of
local
leaders
focused
on
the
environment
and
climate
we've
operated
for
over
10
years,
and
we
have
over
150
individual
and
organizational
members
that
span
the
urban,
suburban
and
rural
areas.
W
Secondly,
considering
that
the
climate
crisis
and
the
biodiversity
crisis,
although
related
and
connected,
are
effectively
separate
in
how
we
deal
with
them
institutionally,
financially
and
legally,
we
see
that
the
recent
International
Conference
of
the
party
15
in
Montreal
and
the
resulting
Montreal
pledge
by
municipalities,
including
Ottawa,
and
this
Council.
These
are
planks
and
a
platform
that
responds
to
the
biodiversity
crisis.
W
So
our
second
recommendation
would
be
to
consider
creating
an
interdepartmental
working
group
to
follow
up
on
the
Montreal
Pledge
on
biodiversity
which
Ottawa
has
signed
up
for
and
thirdly,
when
it
comes
to
ecosystem
Health,
which
could
be
climate
or
it
could
be
biodiversity.
It's
certainly
about
stewarding,
our
air,
water
and
land
and
our
relations
with
our
fellow
species.
W
So
our
recommendation
number
three
would
be
to
recommend
that
you
invite
First
Nations
knowledge
holders
to
participate
in
these
inter-departmental
working
groups
and
strive
to
build
and
maintain
reciprocal
relationships
with
the
host
anishnabi
Algonquin
Nation
We
should
strive
for
both
cultural
and
ecological
protocols
to
be
created
that
can
guide
us.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
B
X
Good
morning
good
morning
and
thank
you
to
the
mayor
answers
to
this
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
morning.
My
name
is
Carolyn
McKenzie
and
I'm.
Here
I
was
a
representative
for
the
FCA
on
the
planning
advisory
committee
during
the
last
term
of
council.
So
I
just
had
a
few.
A
few
comments
to
make
on
the
report
and
I
really
appreciate
that
this
report
has
been
brought
forward.
X
You
know,
planning
issues
can,
of
course,
be
contentious.
So
I
think
it
was
a
really
useful,
Forum
and
important
because
it
really
encouraged
exchange
of
views
between
members
and
hopefully,
a
better
understanding
and
appreciation
of
differences,
and
there
are
obviously
differences
when
you
have
a
committee
of
made
up
of
Industry
people.
Community
people
like
myself
on
a
number
of
issues,
councilor
Moffett,
who
acted
as
chair
of
the
pack
laterally
commented
a
number
of
times
in
the
value
that
he
believed
came
from
the
discussion
between
members
and
I.
X
Think
that
was
that
really
reflected
reality.
I
also
believe
it
was
very
useful
committee
to
have
the
benefit
of
the
of
his
participation
as
a
member
of
council,
preferably
having
the
participation
of
the
planning
committee
chair
as
a
member
of
Pac
and
because
I
think
what
it
did.
It
really
helped
to
ground.
Our
discussion,
integrate
our
knowledge
of
internal
City,
Hall
workings,
this
past
January
Roland
Dorsey
and
myself
role.
X
In
particular,
there
were
a
number
of
issues
that
I
would
I
sort
of
broadly
referred
to
as
public
access
issues
that
I
I
don't
see
really
as
having
shown
up
in
the
report.
So
I
just
wanted
to
raise
them
briefly
for
perhaps
for
further
consideration-
and
these
are
they
seem
rather
small,
but
I
think
I
think
they
are.
They
are
important.
X
One
was
that
improvements
be
made
regarding
the
timing
and
posting
of
the
notice
of
meeting
and
then
and
even
just
the
the
posting
of
the
meeting
to
the
YouTube
channel.
Sometimes
it
took
literally
months
for
that
to
to
happen.
I
would
have
people
emailing
me
and
saying
Carolyn.
Do
you
know
what's
happening?
X
X
X
We
we
should
take
some
time
to
write
the
letter
to
think
carefully
about
these
recommendations
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
might
not
have
been
useful
as
part
of
this
review
to
actually
consult
with
with
Pac
members,
not
just
myself,
but
others.
There
were
lots
of
Industry
people
as
well
to
provide
an
explanation
in
our
case
as
to
why
recommendations
received
were
not
Incorporated.
X
B
P
Eg
alignment
with
strategic
and
legislative
objectives,
contributions
to
reports
Etc
and
whereas
there
is
an
opportunity
to
further
review
these
bodies
as
part
of
the
2022-2026
midterm
governance
review,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
clerk
be
directed
to
develop
basic
performance
measures
for
these
advisory
bodies
and
include
relevant
reporting
and
Analysis
in
the
2022-2026
midterm
governance
review
report,
including
any
recommendations
for
further
changes
to
advisory
bodies.
Mr
Mayor
shall
I
introduce.
P
That
is
why
we're
here,
I
think
residents
want
to
see
us
actually
do
something
not
just
continue
to
sit
and
meet
in
committees.
So
therefore,
I
asked
the
question:
does
anybody
know
if
these
these
various
committees
are
effective?
And
so
the
answer
was
well,
there
isn't
actually
a
process
to
to
look
at
that.
There's
a
process
to
look
at
structure,
but
what
this
motion
does
is
it
asks
for
basic
performance
measures
for
the
advisory
bodies,
because
I
want
to
see
what
actually
comes
out
of
them?
P
There
are
so
many
groups,
as
we
heard
in
the
delegations
that
are
very
valuable
to
hear
from,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
is
actually
done
that
we
could
measure
and
say
there
was
value
given
how
much
time,
and
therefore
money
goes
into
these,
so
I
really
hope
that
this
can
be
supported.
A
city
clerk
office
helped
write
this
and
as
and
you
can
ask
the
question.
I
would
like
you
to
ask
if
this
city
clerk
is
in
agreement,
that
this
can
be
done
as
well.
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I'll
just
introduce
this
very
quickly
and
then
I'll
read
it
out
through
the
review
of
advisory
bodies.
It
uncovered
a
lot
of
overlap
in
the
Mandate
Mission
and
membership
of
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
and
the
community
safety
and
well-being
advisory
committee.
So,
while
I
want
to
wholeheartedly
acknowledge
the
important
work
of
CPO
over
the
last
several
years
and
the
dedication
of
its
board,
this
motion
recommends
a
dissolution
and
transition
process
to
strategically
align
all
parties
to
come
together
under
one
body
and
work
toward
the
shared
goal
of
a
safer
City.
Y
So
I
will
read
it
out.
It
is
quite
long.
I
apologize,
whereas
subsection
143
of
the
police
services
act
as
amended
by
Bill
175.
The
safer
Ontario
act.
2018
requires
city
council
to
prepare
and
by
resolution,
adopt
a
community
safety
and
well-being
plan
that
identifies
risk
factors,
including
without
limitations,
systemic
discrimination
and
other
social
factors
that
contribute
to
Crime,
victimization
addiction,
drug
overdose
and
suicide,
and
any
other
prescribed
risk
factors
as
well
as
related
reduction,
priorities,
strategies
and
outcomes.
Y
And
whereas
on
April,
27
2022
Council
considered
the
staff
report,
titled
Community
safety
and
well-being
plan
progress,
update,
which
stated
that
a
new
advisory
committee
was
among
entities
being
established
for
the
governance
structure
of
the
community
safety
and
well-being
plan
and
whereas,
given
its
role
in
the
preparation
of
the
community
safety
and
well-being
plan,
much
of
crime
prevention,
ottawa's
membership
composition.
Now
overlaps
with
the
mandatory
Community
safety
and
well-being
advisory
committee
has
set
out
in
attachment
one
and
whereas
crime
prevention
ought
to
us
terms
of
reference
include
goals.
Y
As
described
in
the
2022-2026
council
governance
review
report
and
subsection
216.
One
of
the
municipal
act.
2001
provides
a
council
May
dissolve
a
local
board
and
whereas
set
out
in
the
2023
budget,
crime
prevention.
Ottawa
has
a
staff
complement
of
three
full-time
equivalent
positions
and
an
annual
budget
of
approximately
1.2
million,
which
can
be
incorporated
in
community
safety,
well-being
policy
and
analytics
services
within
the
community
and
Social
Services
Department
to
assist
with
achieving
crime
prevention
goals,
while
eliminating
existing
overlap
and
redundancies
between
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
and
the
statutory
Community
safety
and
well-being
plan
regime.
Y
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
city
council
directs
staff
to
one
begin.
The
process
of
dissolving
crime
prevention
Ottawa
and
allocating
its
current
staff
complement
to
the
2024
budget
process
and
the
1.2
million
annual
budget
to
community
safety,
well-being
policy
and
analytics
services
within
the
community
and
Social
Services
Department
under
the
delegated
authority
of
the
general
manager
of
community
and
Social
Services.
Although
operational
and
granting
processes
will
continue
through
the
transition
phase,
the
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
government
governance
board
shall
cease
to
exist
as
a
structure
and
will
cease
to
have
any
delegated
authorities.
Effective.
Y
The
approval
of
this
motion
at
city
council
to
report
back
to
the
Community
Services
committee
and
Council
no
later
than
the
2022-2026
midterm
governance
review
regarding
actions.
The
community
and
social
services
department
has
undertaken,
or
will
undertake
that
will
address
the
goals
set
out
in
the
Mandate
of
the
former
crime
prevention.
Y
Ottawa,
three
add
to
the
terms
of
reference
of
the
city
of
Ottawa,
Community
safety
and
well-being
plan
language
in
support
of
crime
prevention,
Community
collaborations,
research,
funding
policy
and
program
interventions
that
reduce
harm
as
key
strategies
for
reducing
crime
and
improving
Community
safety
and
four
ensure
that
agencies
currently
receiving
funding
through
crime
prevention
Ottawa
will
continue
to
receive
funding
to
the
end
of
their
current
terms,
after
which
these
agencies
will
be
considered
for
funding
through
the
community
safety
and
well-being
plan.
Thank
you.
B
V
B
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Yes,
we
did
have
a
council
sponsors
group
reviewing
Council
sponsors
and
other
advisory
bodies.
So
thank
you
to
councilman
for
his
contributions.
What
is
being
contemplated,
Mr
Mayor,
is
a
departmental-led
working
groups,
so
working
groups
led
by
general
managers
where
they
would
bring
in
various
experts
and
Community
groups
who
have
interests
in
these
matters
and
when
they
are
formed
the
standing
committee
would
be
advised.
The
parent
standing
committee
would
be
advised
that
these
groups
are
being
formed.
K
O
Sorry,
yes,
so
so
I
I,
guess
I'm
just
wondering
on
the
on
the
first
point
that
the
timeline
of
that,
when
that
might
happen
with
regard
to
the
environmental
piece,
because,
obviously
there's
you
know
a
concern
that
we
want
to
get
resident
input
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
volunteers
out
there
that
want
to
work
on
things
like
tree
planting
and
maintenance
in
our
city.
There's
a
lot
of
obviously
volunteer
groups
with
experts
that
that
can
inform
us
now.
O
So
just
the
timing
of
that
how
it
might
look
and
then-
and
then
secondarily
was
the
question
about
the
interdepartmental
working
groups
and
how
that
might
be
formulated
through
the
city,
manager's
office,
I
I
believe,
obviously,
there's
the
ability
to
do
this.
Now
we
see
some
of
those
already,
but
several
delegations
raise
interdepartmental
working
groups
as
a
part
of
a
solution
to
what
we're
to
what
we're.
Seeing
in
the
report
today.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
yes,
on
in
terms
of
the
timeline
I
think
in
in
general,
Council
and
staff
are
have
their
eyes
set
on
the
July
12
council
meeting
and
after
there
there
is
a
sort
of
a
natural
slowdown
over
the
summer.
However,
we
do,
in
general,
see
these
working
groups
ramping
up
in
the
fall.
I
won't
speak
for
the
general
manager
on
that
particular
working
group
or
work
in
groups,
but
that
was
sort
of
the
what
we
had
envisioned
and
then
with
respect
to
interdepartmental
working
groups.
K
Yes,
we
think
that
would
be
a
possibility.
In
fact,
when
we
met
with
the
general
managers,
we
met
with
the
general
managers
for
planning
and
real
estate
and
economic
development
and
infrastructure
and
water
services
at
the
same
time,
and
and
brief
them
on
this
matter
and
had
a
discussion
so
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
for
general
managers
to
come
together
and
and
do
that
sort
of
interdepartmental
work.
O
Thanks
very
much
Mr
Mayor
and
just
on
the
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
motion,
I'm
in
a
unique
position
where
I
used
to
really
fight
to
save
this
group
back
in
jeez
I.
Think
I
was
the
president
of
the
center
Town
Community
Association
at
the
Times,
2000
and
I
think
nine
or
ten,
and
they
were
on
the
chopping
block.
O
Then,
and
I
saw
the
valuable
work
they
did,
but
but
I
think
we,
you
know,
we've
come
to
a
point
where
this
fund
These
funds
can
be
better
utilized
and
certainly
I
will
support
that
motion
by
by
Vice,
chair,
Kitts
I,
do
think.
There's
a
lot
of
need
out
there
for
a
different
approach
to
to
crime
prevention.
One
is
that
is
more
community-led
and
one
that
will
see
those
investments
into
the
well-being
of
our
of
our
residents.
O
Z
Thank
you
very
much,
chair
I've
got
to
three
areas
of
question,
I
guess,
the
first
of
which
is
with
respect
to
the
kids
motion
and
crime
prevention.
Ottawa
I
just
want
to
get
some
clarity
around
the
first
Clause
of
the
resolution
begin
the
process
of
dissolving
crime
prevention
Auto
and
allocating
its
current
staff
compliment
begin.
The
process
is
kind
of
open-ended.
What
does
that
actually
mean?
As
of
the
city
council
meeting
at
which
we
approve
this?
If
we
do,
does
this
mean
that
crime
prevention
Ottawa
will
be
dissolved.
B
If
I
can
just
add
a
quick
comment,
councilor
leaper
I
think
the
intention
is
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
after
that.
But
recognizing
that
there
are,
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
bit
of
process,
there's
going
to
be
some
unfinished
business
that
has
to
be
taken,
care
of,
and
so
there'll
be
a
there'll,
be
a
transition
period.
Inevitably
I
would
think
answer
the
hill.
AA
Yeah
I
think
you
councilor
leaper.
The
intent
is
to
commence
the
process
upon
the
approval
of
counsel,
understanding
that
the
current
operations
of
granting
and
the
existing
lines
of
effort
they
need
to
continue
through,
as
the
transition
process
happens,
but
the
delegated
authority
to
the
actual
Board
of
crime
prevention
Ottawa
will
cease
at
that
time,
as
will
the
structure
of
the
board.
Okay.
Z
Z
Z
J
AB
Z
J
Z
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you
and
then
I
only
have
one
more
question.
Mayor
is
with
respect
to
the
planning
advisory
committee.
My
my
sense
of
that
group
has
been
that
it
is
heavily
skewed
toward
homeowners.
Particularly
I
am
wondering
how
we
can
ensure
that
the
folks
who
are
going
to
benefit
from
planning
decisions,
but
who
may
not
traditionally
be
involved
in
planning
discussions
and
I'm
thinking,
particularly
here
of
younger
renters,
for
example,
some
of
our
some
of
the
the
anti-poverty
groups
in
the
city.
K
AA
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
has
a
mission
to
contribute
to
crime
prevention
and
enhance
Community
safety
and
well-being
in
Ottawa
through
collaborative
evidence-based
initiatives.
The
board
of
crime
prevention
Ottawa
is
mandated
to
have
top
decision
makers
in
the
areas
of
Public,
Health,
Municipal,
politics,
funding,
social
housing,
K-12
education,
policing,
child
protection
and
Emergency
Services.
It
also
includes
community
members
who
are
leaders
in
anti-black
racism,
various
Faith
communities,
the
health
and
mental
health
sectors
and
the
local
business
community.
AA
Crime
prevention,
Ottawa
engages
a
broad
spectrum
of
community
and
agency
stakeholders
in
its
crime
prevention
initiatives
and
listens
to
these
stakeholders,
exploring
existing
research
to
identify
gaps
and
supports
that
people
need
to
live
safely.
We
then
nurture
these
Partnerships
that
allow
for
a
holistic
approach
to
address
these
gaps.
AA
I
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
accomplishments
that
this
organization
has
had
over
the
past
several
years
in
2023,
we've
revamped
our
funding
model
to
Center,
Equity
diversity
and
inclusion
via
a
transparent
granting
process
process
recognizes
the
best
strategies
to
reduce
harm
in
the
community,
often
come
from
the
people
with
lived
experience
or
from
agencies
that
work
closely
alongside
them.
As
a
result,
13
of
the
projects
that
CPO
funded
this
year
went
to
Grassroots
agencies
and
efforts.
AA
Last
year,
we
funded
a
participatory
research
project
on
increasing
the
safety
of
downtown
drug
users,
which
produce
a
report
with
nine
recommended
projects
to
improve
Community
safety
in
2021
CPO
funded.
A
safety
needs
assessment
for
2slgbtq
youth,
which
identified
it
a
need
for
safe
spaces
for
these
use,
resulting
in
an
effective
pilot
project.
Cpo
also
co-hosted
a
series
of
eight
webinars
showcasing
local
National
and
international
examples
of
alternate
responses
to
the
mental
health
crises.
AA
The
Ottawa
paramedic
service
said
that
these
webinars
helped
to
shape
the
creation
of
the
mental
health
response
team.
Also
that
year
CPO
published
a
report
outlining
the
systemic
barriers
to
employment,
the
young
men
with
criminal
records
face
and
since
then
CPO
has
advocated
at
the
local
and
provincial
levels
to
reduce
those
barriers.
AA
AA
AA
It
was
important
at
this
time
to
highlight
some
of
the
diverse
outcomes
that
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
has
been
a
part
of,
and
I'd
be
remiss
to
highlight
these
achievements
without
acknowledging
the
outstanding
leadership
of
the
acting
executive
director,
Ahmed
lukman,
who's,
worn
many
hats
over
the
past
several
years
and
right
now
is
acting
and
running
the
ship,
basically
on
his
own,
as
we've
been
lacking
an
executive
director
for
the
last
several
years,
so
I'd
ask
my
colleagues
if
we
could
just
show
some
appreciation
to
Mr
lukeman.
Could
you
just
stand
up
for
a
moment?
AA
I
acknowledge
that
change
always
comes
with
friction
a
bit
of
risk
and
uncertainty,
but
I
do
believe
that,
with
leadership
in
both
organizations,
we
can
see
an
outcome
whereby
the
city
is
better
served
and
its
overall
crime
prevention
mandate
through
aligning
the
Strategic
resources
under
the
Community
and
Social
Services
directorate.
Thank
you.
B
AA
My
direction
to
staff
would
be
I
guess,
tabled
by
counselor,
kits
that
the
advisory
component
function
that
CPO
board
provides
should
be
sustained
in
the
new
structure.
This
was
the
strength
of
CPL
and
will
be
of
a
measurable
benefit
in
both
the
transition
and
steady
state.
Going
forward
number
two:
that
preventing
crime
be
a
functional
and
explicit
objective
within
the
community
safety
and
well-being
entity
in
order
to
ensure
in
in
addition
to
all
other
stated
objectives
and
number
three
that
subject
to
directions
of
the
annual
budget
process.
D
J
Commissioner
I'll
just
begin,
and
if
the
transit
colleagues
want
to
add
something
to
it,
should
Council
pass
this
report
by
next
week.
We
would
look
to
very
heartily
in
in
the
fall
initiate
all
of
the
processes
and
procedures
that
Council
has
approved,
so
I
would
expect
October
November.
We
would
have
things
and
and
part
of
the
one
of
the
recommendations
for
the
performance
measures
is
to
check
on
all
those
things
and
bring
something
back
from
midterms.
So
Council
would
have
another
opportunity,
then,
to
have
a
look
at
it.
D
There
are
existing
advisory
groups
within
the
transit
has
been
using
to
advise
on
things
like
paratrans
boat.
There's,
a
group
of
paratranspo
users
that
are
consulted
frequently,
as
well
as
for
accessibility,
number
of
organizations
and
representatives
I'm.
Assuming
those
groups
would
continue
or
or
would
they
be
superseded
by
a
working
group?
How
would
they
continue
to
interact
I
guess.
K
K
Mr
Mayor
the
the
decision
that's
referenced
in
the
report
coming
out
of
the
city
of
Hamilton,
caught
the
attention
of
the
city,
clerk's
office
and
city
clerics
across
Ontario,
where
advisory
committees
are
quite
common
and
but
to
deem
them
a
local
board,
as
happened
in
the
city
of
Hamilton.
That
really
was
a
quite
a
shift
in
the
approach
here.
We've
had
a
variety
of
different
types
of
advisory
bodies,
as
mentioned
in
the
report.
K
The
archives
tells
me
that
the
first
advisory
committee
of
council
traces
back
to
the
1950s,
so
it's
certainly
a
well-established
model,
but
we
have
seen
an
evolution
in
terms
of
the
legislation.
Court
decisions,
technology,
Zoom,
hybrid
meetings
like
we're
having
today,
so
things
have
really
shifted
in
that
area
as
well.
We've
seen
success
with
respect
to
working
groups
like
the
anti-racism
table,
which
helped
counsel
usher
in
the
anti-racism
strategy
recently.
So
there
has
been
a
an
evolution
of
how
these
advisory
bodies
operate.
J
Mr
Mayor,
the
only
other
thing
I
would
add,
is
I.
I
can
share
that.
A
number
of
my
colleagues
across
the
province
are
waiting
for
the
city
of
Ottawa
Council
next
week,
and
then
I
will
be
sending
all
of
this
report
and
all
of
council's
amendments
to
a
plethora
of
Clerks
who
are
all
interested
in
this
subject
matter.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I,
hope,
Mr
city
clerk
that
they,
like
my
performance
measures,
section
as
well:
okay,
Mr
Mayor,
so
the
only
questions
I
have
is
on
the
transit
Advisory
Group
you're,
going
to
have
counselors,
Gower
and
duroche
working
with
you.
That's
excellent,
and
can
you
assure
me
that
you'll
also
be
looking
at
what
it
said
in
the
Oregon
report
about
these
advisory
bodies.
M
P
P
Crime
prevention,
Ottawa
I,
speak
better
later
in
the
day,
I'm
glad
to
see
what
councilor
Hill
is
putting
forward
in
directions,
because
it
is
really
important
to
keep
all
of
the
good
work
that
was
done.
Crime
prevention,
Ottawa
has
been
an
amazing
group
and
it
is
important
to
keep
that.
I
will
say
that
this
comes
as
a
little
bit
of
a
surprise
to
me
on
the
Police
Services
Board
I.
P
There,
the
chair
someone,
because
we
do
have
a
new
community
safety
act
coming
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
have
an
overall
comment
from
the
Police
Service
themselves
in
terms
of
how
they
see
this
working,
because
the
morphing
of
it
and
the
the
changes
over
the
next
little
while
will
will
be
important
for
the
community
for
the
Police
Services
Board
to
be
following
and
having
a
comment
on
as
well.
But
can
we
get
a
comment
between
now
and
Council?
Please.
H
P
U
Thank
you,
mayor
boy,
lots
lots
going
on
here
for
the
transit,
Advisory,
Group
I'm,
appreciative
of
it
and
I'm
I'm,
confident
the
counselors,
Gower
and
durash
will
do
well.
I
I
just
want
to
put
an
emphasis
on
the
paratranspo
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
from
paratransible
users
and
it's
a
crisis
Point
where
they're
not
getting
any
service
at
times,
especially
late
in
the
evenings.
U
So
the
idea
of
having
just
one
I
think
that
that's
a
minimum
I
don't
think
we
should
just
say
that
one
person's
the
paratransport
person-
maybe
if
there's
wonderful,
valid
candidates,
that
can
add
it
should
be
just
at
least
one.
So
because
there's
there's
many
categories
so
I'm
just
making
that
recommendation
so
that
we
get
because
these
are
people
that
absolutely
need
our
our
services
and
and
and
have
much
to
say
so.
U
K
Mr
Mayor,
one
of
the
recommendations
in
document
six,
is
that
the
working
groups
that
exist
at
the
city
be
made
more
transparent
by
advising
the
standing
committees
and
listing
them
on
ottawa.ca
and
I
mentioned
that,
because
there
is
in
fact
already
a
paratranspo
working
group
that
works
directly
with
transit
services.
We
of
course
also
have
our
accessibility
advisory
committee,
but
one
thing
that
we've
learned
throughout
the
course
of
this
is
that
sometimes
this
great
work,
that's
happening,
isn't
always
made
available
to
council.
U
Well,
thank
you
that
is
helpful,
but
obviously
it's
not
going
anywhere
because
there
there's
different,
definitely
lacking
in
service,
so
they
may
have
been
the
advisory
committee.
But
obviously
no
budget
got
attached
to
improving
things.
So
I
think
that's
something
we
have
to
look
at
for
the
future
in
terms
of
councilor
dudas
on
the
aeson
of
older
adults.
U
Yes,
I
I
support
that
that
that
would
be
great
I've
been
an
advocate
for
my
community
for
a
long
time
on
these
issues
and
worked
on
the
norc
issue,
which
has
been
growing
in
popularity
to
help
older
adults
live
in
their
homes
for
longer,
that's
great
in
terms
of
environmental
advisory
committee.
That's
no
longer
there
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
so
much
expertise
in
the
city.
U
And
we
did
this
with
the
the
gender
and
liaison
role
where
we
invited
people
to
a
big
Workshop
just
to
discuss.
What
are
your
main
issues?
What
are
your
top
concerns
and
we
have
all
the
groups
that
were
related
to
women's
issues
and,
like
a
thinking,
you
know
set
up
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
at
things
that
we
haven't
missed.
We
may
think
we
have
all
the
issues.
AB
U
Okay,
thank
you
in
terms
of
planning
strategy,
I
agree
with
councilor
Leeper,
and
we
should
have
a
variety
of
people
on
that.
Maybe
even
people
who
live
in
affordable
housing
to
get
their
viewpoints
as
well
on
on
the
perspective
they
have,
because
not
just
the
the
typical
Community
associations,
lots
of
expertise
there,
but
we
want
some
variety
is
as
we
build
more
affordable
housing
as
we
build
more
rental
that
we
need
that
input
as
well
and
I.
U
Remember
having
a
specific
meeting
on
for
renters
when
we
were
doing
the
official
plan
just
to
to
get
their
perspective
was
a
great
idea
and
I
I
really
found
that
that
was
very
helpful,
not
just
to
talk
to
people
who
have
owns
a
home
and
live
in
a
certain
neighborhood,
but
people
who
are
renters
so
I
appreciate
that
perspective
and
I
hope
that
that
can
be
be
part
of
it
for
the
community
safety
I'd
like
to
get
some
comments
from
staff.
How
is
this
not
in
the
recommendation?
U
K
Foreign
ER
there
there's
a
limited
scope
to
this
report
in
terms
of
council,
has
a
variety
of
local
boards.
We
didn't
review
all
of
those
local
boards.
We
reviewed
the
advisory
committees,
the
sponsors
groups
and
the
departmental
working
groups
which
were
listed
in
the
motion
and
that
was
adopted
by
Council.
K
AC
AC
U
AC
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
in
terms
of
the
budget
per
the
motion,
the
budget
will
remain
on
through
the
commitments
to
date
that
crime
prevention
Ottawa
how
crime
prevention,
Ottawa,
has
allocated
the
funding
going
forward
per
the
direction.
We
would
look
to
understand
the
broad
range
of
priorities
that,
through
this
merger
and
transition,
we
identified
under
the
guise
of
the
community
safety
well-being
priorities
and
look
to
reallocate
a
line
to
that
with
the
focus
of
still
having
the
funding
go
to
community-based
agencies.
U
AC
On
thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr
Mayor
we
do
have
some
similar
membership
in
one
of
the
activities
will
be
undertaking
over
the
next
six
months
is
to
look
thoroughly
at
the
terms
of
reference
and
governance
of
each
group
as
we
look
to
transition
to
an
effective
body,
but
believe
that
there's
opportunities
to
combine
and
really
continue
to
complement
the
membership
and
the
discussions
that
were
happening
in
both
tables.
AC
U
If
this
may
be
shallow,
but
I
I
like
the
title
of
community
safety
and
well-being
better
than
crime
prevention,
Ottawa,
as
it
seems
to
get
more
to
the
heart
of
what
we
hope
to
do
and
which
I
believe
ought
to
crime
prevention,
Auto
was
doing
in
in
some
respects
and
they
had
great
leadership,
and
our
the
the
past
executive
director
was
was
amazing,
Nancy,
so
kudos
to
her
and
hopefully
we'll
we'll
bring
in
some
Talent
to
to
the
next
level.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
I
just
have
a
quick
question
and
perhaps
following
up
a
little
bit
on
what
counselor
Kavanaugh
was
asking
just
with
respect
to
the
collapse
of
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
and
not
the
collapse
but
folding
in
under
the
Community
and
safety
well-being
plan
I'm
wondering
a
little
bit
about
the
overall
governance
for
that
community
and
safety
well-being
plan
crime
prevention
had
a
mandate
that
was
different
than
that.
A
police
did
include
police
community
community
safety.
Q
Well-Being
is,
is
a
requirement
I
believe
under
the
police
services
act,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
activities
that
seem
to
be
happening
in
this
city.
You
know:
we've
got
community
engagement,
teams
and
I
believe
they
work
eight
to
four
in
the
the
bywood
market.
We've
got
now
the
recommendation
from
The
Guiding
Council
that
comes
out
as
it
was
as
a
result
of
the
community
and
safety
well-being
plan
for
an
alternate,
the
health
response.
It
will
be
24
7.
Q
In
a
year
we've
got
teams
from
the
Ottawa
Inner
City
Health,
block
captains
that
are
doing
work
and
I'm
wondering
is.
Are
we
going
to
be
rolling
all
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
for
social
services
and
under
the
Community
and
safety
well-being
plan?
Is
that
the
plan
for
both
operational
and
strategic
work,
and-
and
that's
all
going
to
be
under
the
leadership
of
this
Advisory
Group?
If
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
on
how
that
governance
will
be
structured
and
and
how
it
works
with
City
staff?
AC
J
H
AC
Q
Okay,
yeah
thanks
for
the
clarification
I
just
I'll,
just
note
that,
with
respect
to
the
the
governance
of
the
community
and
safety
wellbeing,
advisory
committee
that
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
fleshed
out
terms
in
representation,
I
think
that
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
on
that
side
and
will
be
interesting
to
to
to
to
follow
that
development.
Thank
you.
AD
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
run
through
some
of
the
expectations
and
how
the
departmental
working
groups
will
be
triggered
and
I
think
that
actually,
the
curry
motion
is
interesting
in
this
context.
I
think
we
can
make
an
assumption-
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
The
Advisory
bodies
that
are
retained
as
advisory
committees,
which
are
now
becoming
local
boards,
will
have
an
established
mandate.
AD
That's
you
know,
brought
down
by
the
province
or
by
other
legislation,
so
their
Worth
or,
however,
this
motion
is
put
forward,
will,
be
you
know,
a
bit
more
sacrosanct,
but
for
those
departmental
working
groups,
how?
How
does
one
of
those
get
triggered
I
mean?
We
have
some
examples
here.
The
seniors
Roundtable,
for
example,
I,
believe,
there's
a
a
commitment
that
that
might
continue,
but
how?
How
do
we
know
when
these
other
departmental
working
groups
will
be
triggered?
And
how
will
Council
know.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
There
are
a
variety
of
working
groups
that
already
exist
across
the
the
organization
through
part
of
this
review.
One
thing
we
learned
is
that
they
exist
in
all
corners
of
the
organization,
so
one
thing
that
we
would
like
to
see
is
more
transparency
with
respect
to
these
working
groups.
Making
members
of
council
aware
of
their
existence
through
memos
to
standing
committee,
also
creating
a
register
of
sorts
on
ottawa.ca,
where
information
about
the
working
group
and
it's
its
mandate
would
be
found
and
really
what
drives
the
working
group
should
be.
K
K
Furthermore,
in
the
reports
to
council
coming
out
of
those
discussions
and
staff's
recommendations
would
be
a
consultation
section.
It
already
exists
in
the
template
for
reports
to
counsel
and
the
expectation
would
be
that
staff
would
describe
what
transpired
at
those
working
groups.
When
were
the
meetings
who
attended
the
meetings?
What
were
some
of
the
discussions?
What
were
the
areas
of
agreement?
Where
were
there
differing
points
of
view
and
members
of
council
would
be
able
to
look
for
that
in
in
reports.
AD
There
will
be
a
link
to
reports,
to
sort
of
prompt
counselors
to
ask
questions
as
to
one
why
one
working
group
may
or
may
not
have
been
consulted
Etc,
while
also
a
prompt
for
department
heads
to
have
those
working
groups
consulted
before
bringing
the
report
to
council.
So
we've
got
these
mechanisms
whereby
input
could
be
solicited
so
I,
just
I.
Wonder
then
how
the
performance
metrics
piece
works
from
what
I
understood
from
the
council
sponsor
group.
AD
The
reason
why
we
were
moving
more
towards
a
working
group
model
instead
of
these
advisory
bodies
was
to
sort
of
decrease
the
bureaucracy
to
pull
out
some
of
the
the
oversight
and
the
sort
of
prescriptive
nature
of
it
and
and
I
kind
of
understood,
and
maybe
this
is
where
I
I
didn't
follow,
but
they
they
would
be
sort
of.
They
could
be
more
ad
hoc
right,
like
it
could
be
on
a
specific
policy
question
or
or
like
it
could
be
a
phone
call
to
these
guys
right.
AD
Sometimes
it
might
not
be
a
full
meeting
and
that's
sort
of
why
we
created
that
difference.
So
in
that
case,
what
do
these
performance
metrics
look
like
if
it
is
in
fact,
you
know
a
lot,
a
lot
more
Nimble?
What's
the
phone
call
Performance
metric?
How
will
how
will
those
look
different
from
the
section
of
the
reports
where
we're
describing
their
activities
would
would
that
just
encryption
not
be
a
place
where
they
would
be
demonstrating
their
participation
I
just
I,
just
wonder
if
this
motion
enhances
what
was
currently
conceived
or
or
in
fact
replicates
it.
AD
I,
just
you
know,
I
I
appreciate
absolutely
that
we
want
to
know
that
everyone's
time
is
well
used,
but
again,
I
don't
want
to
see
a
situation
whereby
these
working
groups
are,
you
know,
not
being
used
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
They're.
Essentially
you
know
de
facto
sitting
on
a
shelf,
because
we
don't
have
staff
who
are
reaching
out
to
them
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
look
their
performance.
Isn't
there
because
they're
not
contributing
to
reports
or
they're?
Not
there
could
be.
What
would
you
call
it?
AD
A
a
directional
attribution
if
you
will
to
that
data?
That
might
be
not
true.
It
could
be
that
staff's,
not
asking
the
right
questions
of
that
group.
So
I
would
hope
that
when
we
collect
the
performance
metrics
that
it's
not
just
that
those
working
groups
are
not
giving
a
valuable
addition
to
the
conversation,
but
also
that
we
would
be
able
to
see
that
staff
perhaps
are
not
using
them
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
AD
Don't
have
a
vote
here,
but
my
concern
with
the
motion,
of
course,
is
that
we
would
be
asking
questions
where
we
would
be
able
to
eliminate
public
participation
or
we
would
be
able
to
retract
public
participation,
not
because
it's
not
useful,
but
because
the
city
of
Ottawa
chills
It
generally
so
I
I
just
want
to
offer
that
as
a
bit
of
a
a
Nuance
to
what's
on
the
floor,
I
certainly
appreciate
the
idea
of
always
measuring
what
we
do
in
order
to
drive
results.
I
mean
I'm.
Absolutely
for
that.
AD
But
I
think
what
this
really
leads
me
to
to
ask
further
Mr,
Cox
and
Mr
O'connor
and
I
have
so
appreciated.
Working
on
this
Council
sponsor
group
with
you.
This
report
does
a
really
good
job
of
of
creating
predictable
roles
and
responsibilities
between
the
public
and
between
those
advisory
bodies
and
I.
Think
right
from
the
beginning.
You
were
very
clear,
certainly
with
me,
who
loves
to
to
creep
that
this.
AD
You
know
the
rules
that
these
bodies
are
around
particular
policies
and
around
particular
needs
for
the
organization
and
you've
done
a
great
job
of
setting
up
what
they
are
and
what
they
are
not
which
then
you
know,
even
with
the
delegations
today
I
think
leads
some
of
us
to
wonder.
Okay.
Well,
what
about
and
certainly
counselor
Kavanaugh's
comments?
This
idea
of
having
you
know
a
larger
Roundtable
on
environmental
issues
or
a
larger
working
Workshop
day.
AD
AD
K
AE
AE
B
D
Thanks
mayor
there's
a
suggestion
earlier
that
the
paratransible
working
group
perhaps
wasn't
effective
or
that
advice
wasn't
being
taken
or
used
by
staff
and
I
do
think
it's
worth
clarifying
that
they
have
provided
valuable
feedback
for
a
number
of
years.
They
were
instrumental
in
providing
feedback
and
advice
during
the
launch
of
the
my
paratranspo
app.
They
are
consulted
for
things
like
LRT
station
design
and
I.
Think
most,
if
not
all
operational
decisions
for
OC
transpose.
It
relates
to
accessibility,
also
in
The
Five-Year
Plan.
D
These
engagement
groups,
these
working
groups,
these
advisory
groups,
whatever
we
call
them
they're
one
part
of
the
engagement
they're,
an
important
part
of
the
engagement,
but
it
doesn't
negate
the
need
for
all
the
other
engagement
that
the
city
does
formally
and
informally.
Individuals,
Community
associations,
whatever
it
might
be,
I,
think
the
structure
that's
being
recommended
today
is
is
something
that
we
should
be.
Supportive
of.
D
The
next
challenge
will
be
making
sure
that
all
of
the
feedback
and
how
these
groups
are
used
is
effective
and
that
the
quality
of
discussions
is
high
and
I
think
that'll
be
on
us
as
counselors
who
are
involved
in
liaison
roles
or
involved
in
these
groups,
to
make
sure
that
the
intent
and
the
effectiveness
of
these
groups
is
top
of
mind
and
continue
to
provide
valuable
feedback
for
Council.
So
thanks
man.
AF
I,
just
thank
you
questions
so
I'm
gonna
start
and
I
apologize.
I
arrived
a
bit
late
into
the
discussion.
I
was
in
a
meeting,
so
if
I,
if
you
already
clarified
this,
just
let
me
know
so,
my
understanding
is
crime.
Prevention
is
now
going
under
the
Community
safety
and
well-being,
which
is
an
advisory
body,
and
then
is
it
like.
AC
AC
Part
of
the
review
as
part
of
this
transition
and
merger
would
be
to
identify
what
the
purpose
of
that
funding
is
going
forward,
as
it
aligns
to
the
council
directed
priorities
within
the
community
safety
well-being
plan,
and
that
would
be.
We
would
provide
an
update
at
that
time
on
what
new
funding
opportunities.
Y
AC
AF
Okay
and
I
just
had
a
follow-up,
so
I'm
sure
you
are
aware,
I'm
not
sure
who
I'm
addressing
this
tooth.
This
is
to
Mr
Mr,
Mr,
Cox,
Mr,
O'connor
or
Miss
Taylor,
but
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you're
aware
of
something
called
the
unsheltered
task
force,
it's
a
group
that
meets
I'm
not
sure
at
what
frequency
to
discuss.
AF
Obviously,
the
issue
of
encampments,
which
is
a
big
issue
in
my
ward
and
as
the
word
counselor
I'm
not
allowed
to
be
in
that
group.
We
got
the
terms
of
reference
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
there's
any
other
group
that
you
know
of
which
has
a
mandate
to
look
at
something
that
directly
impacts
award
and
involves
people's
lives
and
where
they
live.
And
if
that's
normal,
where
the
award
counselor
would
not
be
implicated.
K
Y
H
I
B
J
B
Okay
and
then
there's
the
emotion
from
Vice,
chair
kits
regarding
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
and
the
community
safety
and
well-being
program
is
the
motion
carried
okay
and
the
motion
from
counselor
Curry
on
performance
measures
for
advisory
bodies?
Is
that
Carriage
period,
okay
and
then
the
report
recommendations
as
amended
as
that
carried
okay.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
Thank
you
to
staff
for
answering
all
the
questions.
B
R
You
Mr
Mayor.
Well,
we
get
set
up
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
the
housing
accelerator
fund
Team,
it's
a
team
comprised
of
planning
planning
services
and
Housing
Services.
We
have
Lauren
Reeves
the
manager
of
affordable
housing,
Paul
Levine's,
the
director
of
Housing
Services,
Megan
Brody.
She
is
the
file
lead
for
the
application
and
I'm
the
acting
manager
of
policy
planning.
AG
AG
So
a
bit
of
background,
the
housing
accelerator
fund
is
a
four
billion
dollar
fund
administered
by
the
Canada
mortgage
and
housing
Corporation.
It
was
announced
as
part
of
the
2022
federal
budget.
It's
part
of
the
National
Housing
strategy
and
its
stated
purpose
is
to
enable
municipalities
to
increase
the
supply
of
housing,
and
it
does
this
by
asking
municipalities
to
create
a
plan
that
will
increase
the
supply
of
Housing
and
the
focus
of
the
application.
AG
So
the
action
plan
portion
of
the
application
is
that
portion
that
outlines
the
initiatives
that
the
city
is
or
will
undertake
to
achieve.
Those
additional
building
permits
over
the
next
three
years
and
staff
have
provided
a
memo
to
Council
in
late
May,
which
outlined
the
proposed
initiatives,
and
that
memo
was
raised
to
planning
and
housing
committee
on
June
7th
for
discussion
next
slide.
AG
AG
The
initiatives
that
are
proposed
in
the
action
plan
are
all
at
various
stages
of
implementation
and
approving
the
action
plan
is
not
the
same
as
approving
an
implementation
strategy
for
each
initiative.
They
will
all
proceed
to
committee
and
counsel
in
accordance
with
their
respective
work
plans,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
staff
have
already
submitted
our
application.
It
was
due
on
June
14th
and
was
promptly
deemed
complete
by
cmhc
next
slide.
AG
AG
We
also
chose
not
to
include
projects
that
would
be
particularly
challenging
to
report
on,
such
as
attributing
a
specific
building
permit
number
to
the
initiative.
Maybe
it
overlapped
with
some
other
project,
and
there
would
just
be
challenges
down
the
road
when
we
report
to
cmhc
what
the
action
plan
is,
is
a
list
of
initiatives
that
optimize
our
application
by
enabling
new
building
permits
or
affordable
units
in
the
next
three
years.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
The
first
is
Transit
oriented
zoning
and
inclusionary
zoning,
and
this
initiative
involves
rezoning
lands
in
several
protected
major
transit
station
areas
to
realize
the
full
development
potential
that
now
exists
in
our
official
plan
and
since
inclusionary
zoning
can
only
only
be
implemented
in
pmtsas.
We've
lumped
we've
lumped
that
initiative
together
here,
but
the
rezoning
is
expected
to
proceed
to
council
much
sooner
than
inclusionary
zoning.
AG
AG
AG
There
are
currently
projects
by
non-profit
housing
providers
that
are
shovel
ready,
but
are
unable
to
proceed
simply
because
of
capital
funding
constraints.
So
this
initiative
proposes
to
use
a
significant
portion
of
half
funds
to
get
many
of
those
projects
going
exactly
how
to
prioritize
those
projects
to
something
that
we
would
need
to
come
back
to
council
with.
AG
AG
This
fall,
but
the
purpose
of
its
inclusion
in
this
application
is
twofold
at
first,
it
is
one
way
that
the
city
can
help
unlock
more
development
potential,
specifically
on
lands
that
are
not
subject
to
site
plan
control
and,
second,
it
helps
diversify
our
application,
because
it's
not
a
typical
land
use
planning
tool.
It's
infrastructure
focused,
so
these
nine
initiatives
do
have
a
slight
focus
on
affordability,
even
though
it's
not
the
focus
of
the
half
next
slide.
AG
AG
We
also
had
to
include
the
projected
number
of
units
and
we
included
two
projections.
One
is
for
the
number
of
units
we
can
expect
to
get
through
building
permits
in
the
three-year
period
of
the
half,
and
the
other
is
the
total
number
of
units
over
the
life
of
the
initiative
which
we
took
to
2031.
Only.
AG
AG
AG
Technically
any
spending
of
half
funds
through
the
affordable
housing
pipeline,
while
technically
being
spent
on
affordable
housing
I
think
we
would
classify
as
being
spent
on
an
initiative
because
it's
being
funneled
through
an
initiative
to
get
to
those
affordable
housing
units
and
again
once
we
know
the
amount
that
the
city
is
eligible
for
and
keeping
in
mind
that
we
would
get
any
funding
in
25
annual
installments.
Then
we
can
think
exactly
of
how
we
want
to
how
we
want
to
spend
the
funds
and
where.
AG
AG
So
as
far
as
next
steps,
our
application
is
still
with
cmhc
for
its
consideration,
so
we
hope
to
hear
from
them
soon
on
the
status
of
our
application,
and
once
we
hear
back
from
them,
we
can
enter
into
a
contribution
agreement
and
they
will
come
back
to
us
with
an
amount
of
funding
and
our
projections
may
need
to
be
modified
accordingly.
So
our
projections
represent
those
7
000
increased
units,
but
any
reduction
in
funding
from
cmhc
would
of
course
be
reflected
in
a
reduction
of
of
that
figure
as
well.
AG
Staff
will
will
provide
Council
a
roadmap
of
next
steps,
so
exactly
how
the
program
is
going
to
roll
out
when
we
can
come
back
and
have
a
more
fulsome
discussion
about
the
use
of
half
funding,
which
of
course,
at
that
time
will
know
exactly
how
much
we're
eligible
for.
So
we
expect
to
have
that
for
Council
within
two
months
of
signing
a
contribution
agreement
and
then,
of
course,
each
initiative
will
proceed
to
Council
in
accordance
with
their
own
work
plans
and
improve
timelines,
some
of
which
have
already
gone
to
council
and
I.
AG
Think,
there's
a
few
more
that
are
coming
up
very
very
soon,
most
of
them
I
believe
you
will
be
hearing
about
before
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
moving
forward
over
the
life
of
the
half.
We
do
need
to
report
regularly
to
cmhc
and
we
have
to
spend
all
the
money
within
four
years,
so
they
want
to
know
exactly
what
we're
spending
it
on.
C
B
Thank
you
and
before
we
go
any
further
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
entire
team
for
all
your
hard
work
and
putting
together
this
application,
because
I
know
it
was
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
a
very
demanding
process.
So
thank
you
all
for
everything
you've
done
to
put
us
in
a
position
to
to
receive
this
funding
and
move
forward
with
some
very
important
projects.
AH
Alrighty
good
morning,
everybody
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
from
me
today
it's
good
to
see
a
lot
of
folks.
I've
already
met
with
and
chatted
with
about
this,
including
staff.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
chat
with
me.
My
name
is
Dean
tester
I'm,
the
co-founder
of
make
housing
affordable.
We
are
a
volunteer
volunteer,
advocacy
group
advocating
for
pro-housing
policies
at
the
municipal
level
that
we
will
believe
will
help
solve
the
housing
crisis.
AH
We
all
know
there's
a
housing
crisis
here
in
Ottawa,
our
shelters
are
overflowing,
our
homeless
population
is
skyrocketing,
rental
costs
and
mortgage
payments
are
crushing
our
middle
class.
Not
even
a
city,
councilor's
salary
would
qualify
you
for
a
mortgage
on
a
starter
home
in
Ottawa
today,
and
it
is
with
this
context
I'm
here
today
talking
about
the
housing
accelerator
fund.
AH
Our
mayor
and
city
council
agreed
to
an
ambitious
housing
pledge
of
150
000
new
units
over
the
next
decade,
and
our
city
council
recently
approved
an
official
plan
which
outlined
a
commitment
to
build
approximately
80
000
units
in
that
time
frame.
So,
there's
a
very
big
gap
between
those
two
numbers
and
I
believe
the
housing
accelerator
fund
was
an
opportunity
to
swing
for
the
fences
we
were
asked
to
put
forward
an
ambitious
action
plan
with
at
least
seven
new
ideas
and
I
want
to
emphasize
new.
AH
Some
of
those
ideas
included
ending
exclusionary
zoning
by
allowing
four
units
in
four
stories,
Citywide
increasing
density
to
at
least
10
stories
everywhere
within
one
and
a
half
kilometers
of
a
major
transit
station,
doubling
our
budget
for
affordable
housing
and
partnering
with
non-profit
housing
organizations
to
implement
the
Sushi
report
that
Council
got
last
month,
removing
expensive
parking,
minimum
city-wide
and
eliminating
neighborhood
character.
As
a
big
planning
concept,
last
week
we
launched
a
petition
urging
the
people
of
Ottawa
to
support
our
plan.
In
one
day
we
received
over
400
signatures.
AH
You
know
in
in
my
opinion
you
know:
I,
don't
have
a
ton
of
confidence
in
the
application,
as
laid
out
for
the
simple
fact
that
there's
there's
nothing
new.
You
know
the
application
guideline
to
me
seemed
pretty
clear,
although
I
understand
that
you've
met
with
The
Minister's
office
and
and
worked
with
the
federal
government
on
this,
so
perhaps
it
was
their
guidelines
that
were
unclear
regardless
I
I.
AH
You
know
I'm
generally
very
happy
with
the
direction
that
the
city
is
headed.
My
issue
is
that
we're
taking
to
2026
to
implement
any
of
these
changes
when
really
we
needed
them
five
years
ago,
I
don't
think
we
can
punt
these
issues
until
the
next
election.
I
think
the
ideas
are
right
here.
I
think
they
need
a
champion
at
City,
Hall
and
I'm
here
today
to
urge
our
mayor
and
Council
to
take
up
the
call
at
leadon
housing.
AH
AA
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
tester
I
appreciate
your
presentation.
I
appreciate
your
enthusiasm
and
persistence
on
this
as
well,
because
I
think
I
share
some
of
your
perspective
on
the
the
need
to
get
a
grip
on
affordability
within
the
city,
from
a
housing
perspective
and
I,
understand
the
complexity,
so
I
kind
of
want
to
challenge
you
a
little
bit.
What
about
the
cost
of
implementing
these
types
of
pro-housing
measures?
You
know
if
we
build
really
quickly
really
fast.
You
know
our.
AA
What
are
the
downside
risks
to
that
in
terms
of
you
know,
as
a
Suburban
counselor
looking
at
places
where
we've
sprawled
out,
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
necessarily
to
to
meet
the
demands
and
the
needs
of
those
residential
communities.
So
do
you
have
a
comment
on
you
know
the
the
risk
that
goes
with
building
too
quickly,
yeah.
AH
Is
you
know?
What's
what's
the
alternative?
What
is
the
cost
of
not
building
housing?
So
what
what
happens
when
we
don't
build
housing?
Well,
people
move
further
and
further
away.
If
they
stay
in
city
limits,
they
move
to
a
new
Greenfield
development
and
we
know
that's
a
net
negative
for
taxpayers,
because
the
cost
of
building
brand
new
infrastructure
is
much
more
expensive
than
upkeep
in
existing
neighborhoods.
AH
AH
This
is
a
massive
drain.
There's
a
parking
impact.
You
know:
there's
no
commuter
buses
to
Carlton
Place,
there's
a
climate
impact.
These
people
are
spending
hours
on
the
road
every
week,
There's
an
infrastructure
impact.
Road
maintenance
is
extraordinarily
expensive
and
and
there's
a
reason
why
our
official
plan
calls
for
more
intensification,
more
Transit
oriented
development
for
many
people.
It's
simply
a
better
easier
way
to
live.
AA
AG
AA
AA
Q
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
one
thing
and
then
just
one
question
the
application's
already
been
submitted
has
it
it
was
by
June
14th,
okay.
So
it's
just
the
action
plan.
The
committee's
approving
today,
you
spoke
a
little
bit
about
the
individual
projects
and
I.
Q
Think
you
mentioned
that
targets
would
come
at
that
time
when
you
would
bring
targets
forward
then,
but
is
there
anything
that
you
can
speak
to
about
housing
targets
that
you
want
to
achieve
in
terms
of
number
of
non-profit
units
to
be
built?
Number
of
private
units
number
of
either
households
or
or
people
that
are
housed?
Q
AG
That
falls
underneath
it
so
most
of
the
affordable
housing
units
that
are
estimated
as
part
of
this
application
come
from
that
affordable
housing
pipeline
strategy,
which,
of
course
is
half
funding
dependent
and
that
strategy
works
with
non-profit
housing
developers
already
who
have
projects
on
the
go
and
their
definition
of
affordable
through
that
initiative
would
be
I
believe
closer
to
80
AMR
I
can
let
Lauren
Miss
Reeves
speak
to
that.
Thank
you.
AI
Q
U
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
report
exciting
that
we're
moving
forward
on
building
more
affordable
housing
as
chair
of
Ottawa,
Community,
Housing,
I
I
know
that
we're
we're
a
strong
partner
and
as
the
as
the
city
bottom
is
this.
It's
the
social
shareholder
of
Otto,
community
housing
I
know
that
the
partnership
will
be
very
strong
in
reaching
those
goals,
as
well
as
other
non-profit
Partners,
which
are
important
as
well
for
variety.
U
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
for
the
question,
so
the
depth
of
affordability
is
also
driven
by
the
amount
of
funding
provided
for
various
projects.
So
there
there's
a
there's,
a
benchmark
of
of
average
Market
rent
and
then
80
average
Market
meant
any
anything
lower
would
is,
is
attached
to
a
funding
formula.
So
more
funding
towards
the
project
can
increase
the
depth
of
of
affordability.
U
Okay,
one
of
the
one
of
the
patterns
I
see
is,
is
that
families
are
having
the
toughest
time
having
affordable
housing
and
I.
Appreciate
that
you're,
looking
at
a
mixture
of
housing
in
in
the
document,
I
just
want
to
put
emphasis
on
that,
because,
when
I
look
at
the
need
out
there,
it's
it's
families,
and
that
means
larger
units.
U
And
how
can
we
insist
on
getting
larger
units
and
I
I
realize
that
includes
the
missing
middle
because
that's
that's
the
greatest
need
out
there,
and
so
how
do
we
push
for
that?
Because
I
I
worry
that
we
kind
of
unit
count.
We
count
how
many
units
and
we
feel
very
successful.
You
know
we
got
X
number
of
units
and
and
that's
great,
but
if
they're
all
bachelor
in
one
bedroom
that
won't
help
families.
So
are
we
keeping
an
eye
on
that.
R
R
U
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
is
their
specific
mention
to
areas
like
Pinecrest
and
queen's
view,
which
are
in
Bay
Ward
and
we're
working
on
the
secondary
plans
right
now
and
involve
very
much
Ottawa,
Community
Housing
I.
Think
there's
there's
great
plans
moving
ahead.
My
other
question
is
is
in
regards
to
churches.
U
This
is
becoming
a
trend
I'm
already
seeing
it
in
my
ward
and
other
counselors
are
too
where
churches
are
looking
at
their
properties
and
seeing
that
they
are,
they
don't
they're
having
dwindling
congregations
but
they're
land
rich,
and
they
want
to
help
the
community
and
they
are
looking
at
non-profit
we've.
Seen
examples
already
that
have
come
to
planning
committee
and
I
expect
there'll,
be
a
lot
more
on.
I
know
very
well
that
there's
some
already
in
the
in
the
in
the
works.
So
how?
How
is
that
being
addressed?.
R
Mr
Mayor,
with
respect
to
just
the
action
plan,
specifically
if
that
that
church
or
that
institution
is
within
a
protected
major
transestation
area,
and
it
takes
advantage
of
the
up
zoning
that
staff
is
proposing
by
fourth
quarter
of
this
year.
Then
those
units
would
certainly
go
towards
the
action
plan
and
the
funding
we
receive
from
the
action
plan.
U
Yeah
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
is
that
government
governments,
especially
elections,
are
coming,
are
looking
for
shovel,
ready
projects
and
I
I
know,
that's
always
a
challenge.
You
kind
of
the
cart
before
the
horse
or
whatever.
But
how
ready
do
we
feel
about
that?
Because,
obviously,
if
they
see
something
that's
already
started,
it
makes
it
a
lot
faster
and
then
they
can
get
the
funding.
But
so
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
focus
is
on
on
shuffle
ready
projects.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor
Kavanaugh,
so
for
the
affordable,
housing
or
pipeline
strategy
that
we
refer
to
in
the
application.
We
currently
have
14
projects
that
are
shovel
ready
and
that
have
gone
through
the
pre-development
stages
and
some
of
them
have
received
a
development
of
funding.
So
we
have
plenty
of
projects
and-
and
we
are
ready
to
to
take
on
more
funding
so
that
we
can
advance
our
construction
with
the
affordable
housing
and
I
would
like
to
stress
that
all
those
projects
are
with
the
non-profit
sector.
U
Excellent
great
to
hear
appreciate
it.
This
may
sound
like
the
boring
category,
but
on-site
stormwater
management
I
actually
thought
that
was
a
good
to
know
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
any
issues
with
that
is
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
elaborate
on
that
any
a
bit.
It's
not
a
big
cost,
but
I
I.
Think
that's
really
important.
R
So
Mr
Mayor
one
of
the
changes
through
Bill
23
Was,
the
removal
of
site
plan
control
requirements
for
developments
of
10
units
or
less
with
Bill
23
and
there,
and
the
ability
to
build
up
to
three
units
on
residential
Outlet
services.
That
would
mean
that
there
would
be
significant
increase
in
previous
services
for
the
parking
and
the
development
of
that
lot,
which
would
translate
into
stormwater
runoff,
which
is
no
longer
captured
under
cycle
Patrol.
R
U
I
appreciate
I
think
that's
really
important
and
I
know,
that's
always
a
question
that
comes
up
when
people
see
infill
and
projects
coming
to
their
community
and
it's
good
to
hear
that
that's
well
on
hand.
I.
Thank
you
for
your
partnership,
particularly
with
auto
community
housing,
but
with
all
the
non-profit
sectors
to
build,
affordable
housing.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
this
is
one
of
the
best
reports
and
presentations
I
have
seen
in
a
long
time.
It
was
so
clear
and
helpful
and
preempting
so
many
questions
I
just
want
to
congratulate
that
you
all
for
that
presentation.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
congratulate
for
is
that
our
application
was
promptly
approved
by
CMHA.
It
was
promptly
approved
as
and
deemed
complete.
P
That's
an
actually
a
very
important
component
to
all
of
this
that
they
immediately
said
it
was
complete
and
complete
applications
are
a
problem.
So
congratulations
to
all
of
you
for
getting
that
completed
and
deemed
complete.
I
have
a
couple
of
very
quick
questions
of
the
nine
actions.
I
really
want
to
focus
on
number
eight,
because
it's
not
a
part
of
the
funding
that
digital
twin
I
guess
I
would
say
to
council
members.
AG
AG
P
You
thank
you.
That
was
exactly
my
point.
I
saw
that,
because
it's
one
to
seven
that
would
be
would
apply
for
this
funding.
It's
eight
and
nine
that
are
not
so
that's
why
I'm
concerned
about
that
funding,
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying
it's
a
part
of
another
funding
source.
That's
fine,
but
it
is
absolutely
critical
that
that
be
included,
so
that
cmhc
and
everyone
else
can
see
what
we
also
have.
P
So
we
are
seen
as
a
you
know,
a
entity
that
is
using
the
technology
to
help
us
which
accelerates
housing
this
tool,
if,
if
all
of
council
is
not
familiar
with
it,
is
life-changing
really
anyway.
Okay,
that's
fine.
I
will
make
sure
we'll
remember
that
when
budget
time
comes
up,
I
also
was
going
to
ask.
Obviously
this
motion
here
is
simply
for
us
to
endorse
this,
and
if
we
didn't,
that
would
not
be
a
good
thing.
P
So
hopefully
this
will
be
a
quickly
unanimous
vote
and
we'll
carry
on,
but
this
is
this
is
actually
what
we're
doing
here.
My
only
other
question
is
if
we
were
not
to
be
given
the
full
amount,
which
sometimes
happens,
as
you
had
said,
what
is
our
plan
is
that
are
the
one
two
three
four
five
six
seven
priorities
they
seem
very
intertwined
but
I'm
wondering
as
I
have
experienced
that
sometimes
the
grantor
will
come
back
and
say
you
know
you've
asked
for.
However
many
millions
would
you
do.
P
AG
Z
You
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
very
much
staff.
There
shouldn't
be
any
surprises
here.
You
sent
us
a
memo
to
tell
us
what
the
application
was
going
to
look
like.
We
discussed
that
committee.
There
is
an
opportunity
for
public
delegations,
and
now
the
application
looks
exactly
like
what
you
told
us.
It
was
going
to
look
like
so
thank
you
very
much
for
a
good,
transparent
and
collaborative
process
in
putting
that
together.
F
Z
Budget
one-time
sorry
cost
of
the
council
Johnson's
motion,
so
you
are
hoping,
as
a
result
of
HAF
funding,
to
be
able
to
build
an
additional
sorry.
I
just
lost
it
again,
1827
units
that
would
be
the
result
of
HAF
funding.
So
that's
the
number
of
units
that
would
be
incented
as
a
result
of
receiving
HAF
funding
am
I
conceptually
understanding
that
property.
F
H
AI
Z
Okay,
I
just
I
I
know
the
the
request
is
out
there
to
to
increase
our
affordable
housing
budget
as
a
result
of
half
funding,
and
obviously
150
million
dollars
give
or
take
10
million
between
friends
is.
It
would
be
a
significant
increase.
So
I
I
appreciate
your
ambition
in
putting
that
forward
to
the
to
the
to
the
feds.
Z
AG
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
a
good
question.
Councilor
leaper,
but
I
believe
the
answer
to
that
question
is
yes,
but
not
by
us.
There
is
a
team
in
the
in
the
zoning
policy
group
right
now.
Who's
quantifying
that
and
I
believe
they're
coming
forward
with
more
information
on
on
DC
losses
as
a
result
of
Bill
23
soon.
AG
Z
And,
of
course,
you
need
to
be
as
ambitious
as
possible
in
applying,
but
there
is
a
certain
what
one
can:
giveth
the
other
hand
taketh
away
right.
The
feds
are
making
a
lot
of
money
available,
but
we
are
going
to
be
facing
DC
shortfalls
in
order
to
build
the
infrastructure
to
support
these
new
housing
units.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I
just
want
to
thank
our
very
professional
and
wonderful
staff
I'm
quickly
going
to
put
on
my
fcmvp
hot
for
two
seconds
and,
as
you
know,
we
just
had
the
AGM
and
the
big
city
mayor's
caucus
as
well.
We're
quite
excited
about
the
funding,
but
there's
always
the
question
about
how
flexible
and
seamless
the
application
process
was
and
how
fortunate
we
are
as
a
city
to
have
people
to
be
able
to
fulfill
that
application
process,
where
many
smaller
municipalities
are
struggling
just
quickly.
AG
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you.
The
application
process
was.
This
is
a
very
brand
new
program,
of
course,
so
there
were
some
hurdles
on
both
sides.
Both
us
and
cmhc
had
to
overcome
a
few
a
few
hurdles
right
at
the
start,
answering
questions.
You
know
what
constitutes
a
unit
exactly
and
some
more
nuanced
things
that
allow
us
to
really
hone
in
on
on
what
to
include
in
our
application.
AG
E
B
Z
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
I
apologize
to
racing
us
at
the
the
11th
hour,
but
I
I'm,
not
certain
I'm,
going
to
be
able
to
support
this
report.
Recommendation
I
know:
we've
got
term
of
council
priorities
coming
to
council
shortly
and
there's
a
lot
of
them,
but
I
only
have
two
really
this
term
of
counsel.
One
of
them
is
affordable,
housing
and
the
other
is
to
fix,
Transit
and
I.
AJ
B
So
so,
just
to
be
clear,
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
be
helpful
in
answering
this,
but
tell
me
if
this
is
wrong:
the
the
previous
Council
directed
staff
to
examine
what
would
go
into
a
local
share
agreement
for
the
hospital
and
report
back
during
this
term
of
council.
There's
no
been
no
decision
on
what
that
would
look
like
this
is
simply
saying
we
would
go
ahead
with
this.
The
money
would
be
set
aside
and
until
we
made
a
decision
about
any
local
share,
the
money
would
be
held.
B
B
Z
Z
There
is
a
a
payment
that
is
going
to
be
made
to
the
city
in
return
for
us
not
exercising
our
right
to
have
the
property
revert
back
to
us
and
that
money
is
going
to
be
held
aside
without
a
spending
decision,
but
it's
it's
tied
up
with
how
we,
whether
we
might
want
to
use
it
for
local
share
or
not.
It's.
Z
I,
don't
know
how
this
Council,
when
one
of
our
priorities
has
to
be
increasing
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
can
go
down
the
path
of
putting
this
money
aside
on
the
basis
or
subject
to
a
decision
at
some
point
down
the
road
on
whether
we
want
to
use
it
for
a
local
share.
The
priority
can't
be
local
share.
The
priority
can't
be
a
contribution
towards
a
provincial
health
initiative.
Z
Our
priority
has
to
be
affordable,
housing,
here's
12
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
presumably
build.
You
know
hundreds
of
doors
of
affordable
housing
with
our
affordable
housing
Partners
we're
giving
up
land
here,
but
the
money
that
is
coming
back
to
us
should
be
put
towards
that
incredibly
important
priority.
So
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
support
this
today,
mayor,
okay,.
B
AJ
B
AJ
AB
Z
That
I
understand
that
no
decision
on
spending
the
money
is
being
made
today,
but
I
think
it's
fairly
clear
that
if
we
are
putting
that
money
aside,
because
we
may
want
to
spend
it
on
local
share
down
the
road
that
we're
going
to
have
to
decide
between
competing
priorities
down
the
road.
My
priority
is
clear:
it's
affordable
housing
and
that's
how
I'm
voting
today.
AK
AJ
AK
AK
Because
otherwise,
if
it
was
for
a
purpose
completely
unrelated
to
one
of
our
main
objectives,
the
city
has
that
right
to
acquire
the
land-
and
maybe
the
city
said
yeah,
we'll
acquire
it,
because
we
want
to
build
affordable
housing
or
housing.
Other
types
of
housing
at
that
site
could
that
be
a
conceivable
outcome?
AK
AK
AL
AL
So
what
we
would
do
from
an
accounting
perspective,
we
will
hold
this
and
it's
a
unique
accounting
account
as
a
receivable
and
then
at
a
feature
date
when
we
come
back
with
our
local
share
report
as
directed
that's
when
that
discussion
can
be
added
in
terms
of
where
that
will
raise,
where
that
ultimately
will
end
up
based
on
Council
Direction.
At
that
time,.
AK
But
who
tied
this
in
with
the
final
Direction
regarding
the
city
of
ottawa's
local
share
towards
the
auto
hospital?
Was
the
auto
Hospital
making
this
request
or
did
City
staff
make
this
request
and
if
it
was
City
staff
on
what
Authority
would
you
specifically
identify
this
particular
objective
in
part?
Three
of
this
motion?
I,
don't
understand
this.
AL
So
Mr
Mayor,
so
essentially
when
we
brought
forward
the
local
share
requests
in
May
of
2022,
where
Council
established
the
financial
framework
and
guidelines.
One
of
those
guidelines
were
basically
unique
to
a
specific
uniqueness
cause.
If
you
will
so
given
the
uniqueness
of
this
parcel
of
land
on
the
existing
Riverside
campus.
That's
where
I
felt
the
recommendation
would
be
prudent
to
put
that
forward
and
hold
that
in
a
special
account,
because
it
is
a
unique
scenario
tied
to
a
existing
Auto,
auto
Hospital
campus,
fair.
AK
AK
and
the
hospital
can
enter
into
an
agreement
with
a
private
entity
to
lease
the
land
and
acquire
revenues
from
that
land.
The
hospital
will
be
the
exclusive
beneficiary
of
those
revenues
and
I'm
wondering
why,
when
the
contract
or
the
sale
contract
was
established,
why
the
city
didn't
say
if
there
was
any
future
Revenue
generation
from
the
site?
AK
The
city
wouldn't
get
a
portion
of
those
revenues
because
we
sold
the
land
to
the
hospital
from
the
hospital
and
now,
almost
20
years
later,
the
hospital
wants
to
benefit
from
the
land
that
exists,
the
undeveloped
land,
that
that
exists
on
the
site
that
they
got
from
the
city
of
Ottawa
for
a
dollar
and
now
they're,
going
to
maximize
what
they
can
get
on
the
land
and
all
the
power
to
them.
But
we
we,
the
city
of
Ottawa,
the
original
owner
of
the
land,
didn't
specify
in
the
contract
that
we
are
going
to.
AJ
AK
Q
You
very
much
I
think
I've
got
a
bit
I'm.
The
ward
counselor
for
the
specific
site,
I
think
I've
gotten
a
little
bit
confused
by
the
questions,
so
I
just
want
to
confirm
a
few
things.
So
my
understanding
is
that
in
2020
there
was
an
announcement
from
the
provincial
government
about
the
use
of
this
site
and
what
it
would
be
used
for.
Q
My
understanding
was
the
council
had
previously
directed
to
explore
the
long-term
share,
but
as
a
ward,
counselor
I've
expressed
that
I
would
love
to
see
the
money
go
back
into
an
affordable
housing
project
in
my
ward,
and
that
is
not
off
the
table.
Yet
right.
We're
just
waiting
for
the
decision
on
long-term
care,
correct
on
long-term
care
on
local
share
long-term
care.
At
all
times,
I
can
make
a
poem
If.
You
want.
AJ
Q
So
can
you
confirm
that,
if
I'm
not
on
this
committee,
but
if
everybody
votes
in
support
of
this
today,
that
it
is
not
off
the
table
that
that
12.9
million
could,
depending
on
the
discussion
of
local
share,
could
be
invested
in
affordable
housing
at
a
later
date?
That's
not
off
the
table.
Correct
I,.
O
O
O
O
B
Don't
know
yet
because
the
report
on
the
local
share
hasn't
been
done.
All
that's
I.
Think
all
that's
happening
is
that
we're
saying
that
the
when
the
report
comes
forward,
if
Council
decides
to
make
a
local
contribution
to
the
hospital
that
this
12.9
million
dollars
will
be
available
at
that
time,
if
Council
decides
not
to
make
a
contribution
to
the
hospital,
then
it
won't,
then
it
can
be
used
for
another
purpose.
O
O
AL
Mr
Mayor,
so
as
a
recap
again,
staff
were
directed
by
the
previous
Council
to
go
away
and
look
at
these
opportunities
under
four
criteria.
This
one
aligns
to
one
of
the
criteria.
When
staff
brings
back
that
report
in
2024,
we
will
make
sure
that
we
outline
items
that
capture
all
those
guidelines,
as
directed
by
by
Council
and
ultimately
will
be
counseled
at
approves
that
direction
to
do
as
they
will
or
as
they
choose
with
those
recommendations.
O
And
at
the
time
there
was
discussion
about
the
municipal,
local
share,
potentially
being
infrastructure
upgrades
to
and
around
the
Ottawa
Civic
Hospital
in
terms
of
connectivity
Transportation.
Some
of
the
road
work
repairs
that
are
happening
is
that
it
would
that
be
considered
part
of
that
12.9
million.
Or
would
this
be
additional
to
that.
O
Well,
I
mean
I
would
have
liked
to
see
in
the
recommendations
mayor
that
they
would
come
back
with
a
report
for
how
this
could
be
used
for
things
like
affordable
housing.
Things
like
the
climate
crisis,
that
sort
of
thing
the
the
issues
that
were
we've
been
talking
about
in
terms
of
our
Council
priorities,
but
it's
that
third
Criterion
there
that
that
has
me
concerned
because
I
don't
see
any
other
reference
to
things
like
housing
or
other
areas.
O
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I
I
will
be
brief.
I
wanted
to
thank
Steph
for
this
report
for
their
recommendations
and
for
following
through
with
what
council
had
asked
you
to
do,
which
was
to
consider
what
potential
options
might
be
used
for
local
share.
You
know,
I
know
we're
not
talking
about
that,
but
apparently
we've
gone
down
this
road,
we're
talking
about
a
very
technical
transaction
here
and
I'm
prepared
fully
to
support
what
is
before
us
today.
V
However,
I
do
think
that
when
the
report
comes
back,
as
staff
has
indicated
with
the
various
uses
for
this,
12.9
million
I
will
be
seriously
considering
whether
we
should
be
contributing
towards
the
construction
of
a
hospital
in
our
city
in
our
growing
city.
So
I'm
happy
to
look
at
all
the
options.
However,
I
do
think
that
I
wanted
to
just
step
in
and
say
thank
you
to
staff
for
following
through
with
what
we
had
asked
you
to
do
and
to
keeping
that
option
on
the
table.
V
B
E
I
B
AM
From
my
current
development,
this
new
property
currently
houses
a
vacant
decrepit
building,
but
the
land
is
full
of
potential
located
in
a
thriving
and
upcoming
community
trim
neighborhood,
although
the
land
was
overpriced,
I
had
been
told
by
councilor
luloff
before
purchasing
it
about
the
CIP
program
and
the
allowances
that
it
would
provide.
In
the
name
of
community
Improvement.
AM
AM
AM
I
am
truly
thankful
thankful
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
all
today
and
for
the
for
ongoing
support
from
councilor
luloff
in
making
this
project
a
reality.
I
sincerely
hope
that
you
will
see
the
value
in
providing
us
the
CIP
Grant
and
allowing
us
to
move
forward
with
creating
new
jobs
and
investing
in
our
community
as
a
small
business
owner
who
has
spent
44
years,
working
in
alia,
I
am
thrilled
and
honored
to
be
involved
in
the
evolution
of
such
a
truly
special
neighborhood.
G
But
I
just
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
you
very
much
for
continuing
to
invest
in
the
community,
the
the
East,
End
and,
and
certainly
this
this
area
has
been.
You
know
a
bit
economically
depressed
for
for
quite
some
time
to
see
the
continued
investment
that
you're
that
you're
making
in
Oakland
it's
heartening.
G
G
Thank
you
for
going
on
the
little
bit
of
a
roller
coaster,
ride
that
we've
put
you
through
throughout
this
and
appreciate,
as
the
applicant
coming
out
today,
to
to
make
this
presentation
to
take
questions
from
from
from
this
committee.
I
appreciate
it
very
much
I
fully
support
this
application
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
continued
investment
in
our
community.
You've
been
a
wonderful
partner
to
work
with
thanks.
V
Yes,
I
just
I
just
quickly
wanted
to
say
that
this
is
very
exciting.
You
know,
as
counselor
luloff
alluded
to
this,
this
area
has
had
a
tough
time.
You
know
we
we've
had
federal
jobs.
In
the
past
we
used
to
have
the
the
RCMP
we
used
to
have
DND
all
along
with
Saint
Joseph,
and
you
know
things
were
thriving
things
were
booming,
we
had
opportunities
and
then
a
lot
of
that
changed.
V
A
lot
of
those
jobs
went
to
the
South
Bend
to
the
West
End,
and
you
know
once
again,
we
don't
want
to
linger
in
the
past.
We
need
to
move
forward
and
by
incentivity
incentivizing
businesses
such
as
yours
to
reinvest
in
our
community
to
make
sure
that
Saint
Joseph
is
truly
living
up
to
its
name,
as
the
main
street
is
the
heart
of
the
East
End
I'm
really
really
excited
Brian
I.
Don't
actually
have
a
question
for
you.
V
I'm
just
really
happy
to
see
that
you're
taking
the
city
up
on
its
offer
to
reinvest
in
an
area
that
desperately
needs
it.
So
I'm
excited
about
this
project.
I
will
fully
support
it
and
I
think
that
seeing
more
projects
such
as
this,
as
well
as
housing
like
these
are,
these
are
opportunities
for
us
in
the
East,
End
and
I'm
very
happy
to
see
it.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
U
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
as
well.
Mr
Brent
I
just
want
to
get
more
detail
exactly
what
the
75
jobs
are
and
and
how
this
works,
I,
just
and
being
as
it's
close
to
a
station.
How
much
investment
is
it
for
active
transmutation
for
walkability
and
and
cycling
to
this
this
site,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
investing
in
something
that
is
car
oriented.
AM
The
project
is
within
300
meters
of
the
new
LRT
station,
so
there's
walking
distance
people
actually
go
there,
go
with
any
part
of
the
city
and
come
and
work.
Obviously,
most
of
people
will
be
working
in
Orleans.
We
have
entered
into
letters
of
intent
with
over
five
different
types
of
businesses
who
are
very
interested
in
coming
out.
So
this
is
on
the
road
to
becoming
a
very
successful
project,
except
for
this
one
stumbling
block,
which
is
the
financing
of
the
project,
which
is
a
large
part
of
what
will
be
needed.
Thank
you
for
your
question.
AM
AM
AI
X
O
Thanks
very
much
mayor
I'm
going
to
be
dissenting
on
this
I
know.
Council
Bluff
had
brought
forward
the
report
previously
to
be
able
to
bring
this
forward
and
I
appreciate
that
and
supported
that
at
the
time
to
have
the
discussion.
I
I
do
think,
though
this
is
the
same
kind
of
path.
We
were
heading
down
before,
with
the
review
of
cips
and
of
brownfields,
of
course,
which
you
know
were
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
coming
out
of
that
constantly
with
the
city
of
Ottawa,
where
we're
subsidizing
this,
it's
not
found
money.
O
It's
not
free
money,
it's
taxpayer
dollars
and
we're
subsidizing
these
private
sector
Endeavors.
So
I
guess
just
the
question
to
the
to
the
applicant.
Is
this:
you
know
if
you
feel
like
we
should
be
doing
this
for
almost
all
businesses.
Should
everyone
get
a
property
tax
Grant
or
is
it
just
the
ones
where
we
think
that
it
it
may
or
may
not
go
forward
and
I
guess?
The
corollary
to
that
is.
Is
this
in
such
Peril
that
this
you
know
fairly
this?
O
This
Municipal
Grant
of
of
over
a
million
dollars,
would
make
or
break
the
project
I.
Just
can't
believe
that,
and
if
that's
the
case,
isn't
this
a
little
bit
tenuous
for
you
otherwise
right
I
mean
if
it's
going
to
be
make
or
break
for
them
with
about
that
amount
of
money.
Isn't
this
attenuous
venture
to
get
into.
G
B
O
Honestly,
I
guess
on
his
own
application.
There
I,
think
you're
right
so
in
terms
of
your
own
application
is
the
project
in
such
apparel
that
this
procedure
doesn't
proceed
with
a
a
municipal
Grant
and
if
it
doesn't
proceed
with
the
missile
Grant
you're
saying
it
can't
happen
without
it,
then
then,
what
are
the
economics
for
you
in
terms
of
a
goal
for
right
in
terms
of
the
success
of
this
project
or
not
councilor.
G
AM
The
chances
of
economic
sense
in
a
sense
are
very,
very
good.
We've
thought
this
through
very
well
I've
done
other
commercial
projects,
including
the
one
across
the
road.
The
problems
that
we
faced
was
the
additional
cost
of
the
land
because
of
the
LRT
on
the
corner,
so
there
was
a
primary
cost
that
we
didn't
think
we
would
incur
that
has
gone
up
in
value,
our
cost
of
of
the
construction
itself
and,
of
course,
the
cost
of
financing.
So
no,
this
is
a
very
viable
project,
but
the
difference
is
made
with
this
grant.
AM
O
V
I
B
B
Y
Be
it
resolved
that
the
finance
and
Corporate
Services
committee
resolved
in
camera
pursuant
to
subsection,
13
1A
of
the
procedure
bylaw
as
the
subject
matter,
relates
to
the
security
of
the
property
of
the
city
to
receive
a
presentation
on
cyber
security
and
the
external
threat
landscape,
which
is
confidential
and
will
not
be
reported
out.
Thank
you.
Y
Okay,
great
we're
gonna
get
started
again
for
the
benefit
of
those
joining
us
online.
The
finance
and
Corporate
Services
Committee
just
met
in
camera.
In
order
to
receive
a
verbal
update
on
technology
security.
These
matters
will
not
be
reported
out
as
they
relate
to
subsection,
13
1A
of
the
procedure,
bylaw
being
the
security
of
the
property
of
the
city
and
will
not
be
reported
out
during
the
in-camer
session.
No
votes
were
taken
other
than
procedural
motions
and
or
directions
to
staff.
Y
So
moving
along
in
the
agenda
item
9.1
item
9
is
information
previously
distrib
distributed
Economic
Development
update,
q1
2023
item
10..
We
have
no
notices
of
motion
that
I'm
aware
of
item
11.
Are
there
any
inquiries
item
12,
no
other
business?
We
are
adjourned
next
meeting
September
5th
2023.
enjoy
the
summer
thanks.
Everyone.